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alohabot |
Hi mib_6hj6iv, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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bag |
dcook: how's friday going for you? I'm really looking forward to some friday |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
It's not too bad, bag |
| 00:26 |
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dcook |
Listening to Active Child and doing DSpace config. Looking forward to beers tonight :) |
| 00:26 |
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dcook |
Just finishing up your Thursday of work? |
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bag |
I'm in late night tonight |
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bag |
but having a fat tire |
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bag |
http://www.newbelgium.com/beer[…]ac9a-316256a7b0ee |
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bag |
rangi ^^ that's a good one |
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bag |
have you had that? |
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bag |
eythian you should try that one too |
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dcook |
Looks pretty tasty. Nice website too |
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dcook |
Amazing how many engineers go into beer and cheese...\ |
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rangi |
hmm |
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rangi |
lemme look |
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bag |
so it's crazy in the US… the shitty beers make up like 95% of the market |
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bag |
good beer is 5% |
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rangi |
yeah but there are tons of good ones |
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bag |
and I think this one newbelgium - is one of the medium sized good ones |
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rangi |
https://untappd.com/user/ranginui |
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bag |
yeah I'm just so depressed with the 95% shitty |
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bag |
:( |
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bag |
yeah rangi I'm on untapped |
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rangi |
ahh fat tire |
| 00:32 |
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bag |
but I usually only log my homebrew |
| 00:32 |
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rangi |
yeah they make good stuff |
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dcook |
I was going to ask you about beer availability in the US, bag |
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bag |
dcook: you can get budweiser anywhere they sell water :P |
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bag |
heh |
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dcook |
Seems like there are a lot of options, although being from Canada...we do tend to insult your beer availability pretty regularly |
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dcook |
Not that ours is that great either :p |
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bag |
but now adays you can get really good beer everywhere |
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rangi |
vancouver had good beer |
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* dcook |
misses Vancouver beer |
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eythian |
you should get the bud light clamato, because that sounds terrible |
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* dcook |
shutters |
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bag |
yeah dcook there has been a really big movement in the last 5~10 years to improve that |
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dcook |
Bud light is really gaining purchase in Canada, I think |
| 00:33 |
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dcook |
It's depressing |
| 00:33 |
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dcook |
Mmm, that makes sense |
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bag |
if you go to a good grocery store you can get a really wide selection (lots of locals) and then some of the bigger good beer nation wide brews |
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dcook |
My brother in law in Florida is a beer fiend |
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rangi |
http://parrotdog.co.nz/ <-- if you ever see any of these, dead canary is my current fave pale ale |
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dcook |
rangi: Did you head out to Parallel 49 in Vancouver? |
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bag |
there is a little spot in humbolt CA that has an amazing pale ale |
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dcook |
I never made it over there, but I heard really good things from local Vanc brewers |
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bag |
http://www.lostcoast.com/beer_lostcoast.php |
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eythian |
I don't think ParrotDog are exporting yet. |
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bag |
anything that is Rogue is top notch |
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eythian |
oh, they are exporting to Australia |
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bag |
if you like IPA's - try any of the dogfishheads |
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rangi |
dcook: hmmm not sure, we went to a few places |
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bag |
this brewery has gotten big - but they make some of the best IPA's |
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bag |
http://www.dogfish.com/ |
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rangi |
i was torn between beer pubs, and pubs that were showing the rugby world cup |
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bag |
rugby won out? |
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rangi |
it was the finals |
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rangi |
so yep |
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rangi |
but i did get to a couple of brew pubs |
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dcook |
:D |
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bag |
one of my friends from college is starting a brew pub |
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bag |
http://crookedkeg.com/ |
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bag |
there amber is really great… |
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bag |
the IPA is good |
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bag |
they do BIG beers though |
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bag |
like 8% and up |
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dcook |
mmm |
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dcook |
As a student, I loved those kinds of beers ;) |
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dcook |
I like this mug club idea.. |
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rangi |
hmm i kickstarted someone starting a brew pub thing |
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bag |
hmm… well maybe I'm think of their speciality beers and not their regulars |
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rangi |
maybe it was them |
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bag |
rangi that was them |
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bag |
it was! |
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bag |
yeah I sent you that link |
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eythian |
rangi: you can get koha coffee mugs, why not beer glasses? |
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rangi |
http://www.kickstarter.com/pro[…]create-a-place-to |
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rangi |
you can |
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eythian |
oh, good |
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bag |
yup rangi that's my buddy from college |
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rangi |
http://www.cafepress.com/+drinkware |
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jcamins |
I've been watching a documentary on microbrewries. |
| 00:41 |
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rangi |
slap a logo on that :) |
| 00:41 |
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rangi |
koha hip flask |
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bag |
jcamins: which one? netflix or something like that? |
| 00:41 |
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wizzyrea1 |
oh we all need a flask |
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bag |
jared I've been working my way through the brewery documentaries in netflix |
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eythian |
http://www.kickstarter.com/dis[…]ref=home_location <-- oh hey, a wellington thing. that's rare |
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ibeardslee |
oh yeah hip flash .. perfect for the under the monitor stand |
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jcamins |
bag: Brew Wars on Netflix. |
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dcook |
Hmm, this call for presentation form is...particular |
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bag |
for kohacon? |
| 00:46 |
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dcook |
We just whipped together an idea. No idea about any of the specifics yet |
| 00:46 |
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dcook |
bag: mhm |
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bag |
yeah that's google forms for you |
| 00:47 |
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dcook |
I was thinking about putting something together and after hearing there were only 7-8 so far...I figured it might be an idea to put together something |
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bag |
ah yes I think I saw that one jcamins |
| 00:48 |
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bag |
yeah we need a few more… |
| 00:49 |
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dcook |
We're thinking of doing a talk on integrating Koha and DSpace |
| 00:49 |
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bag |
cool |
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dcook |
I imagine it must be done fairly often, but I guess that could lead to discussion? |
| 00:51 |
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bag |
discussion is good |
| 00:58 |
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dcook |
Still working on transfers tonight, bag? |
| 00:59 |
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bag |
nah you've just motivated me to think about a presentation |
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dcook |
:D |
| 01:30 |
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dcook |
Yay, proposal all done |
| 01:31 |
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dcook |
Are folks starting to book hotels and buy plane tickets? |
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rangi |
yup |
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dcook |
Sweet. I really need to plan my holiday and then jump on that. |
| 01:32 |
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dcook |
I'm still trying to convince the UBC library school folks to come down |
| 01:32 |
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dcook |
I think there is a bit of reluctance though because Evergreen has such a strong presence in British Columbia |
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dcook |
Although I figure a lot of what you could learn at KohaCon could be transferred to work on Evergreen as well |
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rangi |
yup |
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dcook |
Uh oh, he's stuck on repeat |
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rangi |
hm? |
| 01:39 |
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dcook |
I'm trying to tease you! |
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rangi |
you arent very good at it :-) |
| 01:40 |
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rangi |
oh hey |
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rangi |
if you fly from oz, virgin australia are pretty decent |
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dcook |
That's what I keep hearing from Aussies who live in North America |
| 01:41 |
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rangi |
if you book early ahead you can get some pretty good prices |
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dcook |
Yeah, that's what the boss was saying last week |
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rangi |
and they have good seat back entertainment |
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rangi |
as well as usb |
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dcook |
I've seen the usb on Air Canada flights, but never known was it is for |
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dcook |
How does that work? |
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rangi |
i charge my phone/tablet with it |
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rangi |
but you can plug in a usb stick, or phone and play your music through their entertainment system |
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rangi |
on a 13 hour flight |
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dcook |
Neato. I'll have to give that a whirl |
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dcook |
Hehe |
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rangi |
it makes angry birds not kill your phone |
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rangi |
:) |
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dcook |
It's horrible going from Aus to North America too |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
Good point |
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dcook |
With the time change, Vancouver to Sydney is a breeze |
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dcook |
I just sleep for most of it |
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rangi |
yeah |
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dcook |
But going the other way around... |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
im planning to get to reno at least a day before |
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dcook |
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too |
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rangi |
otherwise ill just sleep through the first day |
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rangi |
that way if they lose my luggage |
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rangi |
i might have it by time i need to present |
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rangi |
not like last kohacon :) |
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dcook |
Ouch |
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dcook |
Yeah, definitely getting in a day early to recover from flight hangover |
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dcook |
Although last time I went back to Canada, was the first and only time I've ever experienced jetlag |
| 01:45 |
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dcook |
So maybe it was more emotional than physical... |
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dcook |
I also spent a lot of that 13 hours watching really bad...awful...horrible Hollywood movies they were playing on the mainscreen |
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* wizzyrea |
had terrible jetlag coming back from kohacon in NZ |
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rangi |
i just cant sleep |
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wizzyrea |
going back I guess. |
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rangi |
im too tall |
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rangi |
so if i land at say 1pm |
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dcook |
How tall are you? |
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* dcook |
can't remember |
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wizzyrea |
spud was up the whole way home |
| 01:46 |
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rangi |
only 6'2" |
| 01:46 |
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wizzyrea |
it was terrible |
| 01:46 |
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dcook |
Mmm, I'm the same |
| 01:46 |
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dcook |
Doesn't make for the most comfortable rides |
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rangi |
trying to stay awake until say 9pm |
| 01:46 |
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rangi |
after being awake for 13 hours already is hard |
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rangi |
and then i wake up at like 5am |
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rangi |
bleargh |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: :( |
| 01:47 |
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dcook |
Ugh indeed |
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bag |
yeah all of us will be there the day before |
| 01:47 |
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bag |
we're having a staff retreat the day before |
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rangi |
good plan |
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* dcook |
thumbs up |
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jcamins |
Hm. Apparently you can't specify ::after pseudo-element styles inline. |
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dcook |
Makes sense, me thinks |
| 01:51 |
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dcook |
Mostly after a quick Google of it :p |
| 01:52 |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
| 01:52 |
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dcook |
I may have ranted a bit (in a good way) about your cataloguing project last night :p |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 01:52 |
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jcamins |
I came up with a better tag selection interface conept. |
| 01:52 |
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jcamins |
Now I just have to impelemnt it. |
| 01:53 |
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dcook |
:D |
| 01:53 |
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dcook |
I'll try to break it after you do ;) |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 01:54 |
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jcamins |
Sadly, the implementation is much more difficult than the original. |
| 01:55 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I'll take that as a good sign though |
| 01:57 |
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jcamins |
And now I can't figure out how to increase the size of an element. |
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dcook |
What kind of element? |
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jcamins |
A span. |
| 01:59 |
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jcamins |
The problem is it needed to be an inline-block element. |
| 02:01 |
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jcamins |
Now... how do I force it to have height? |
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dcook |
Is it empty or does it have text? |
| 02:03 |
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dcook |
I assume empty |
| 02:03 |
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jcamins |
Empty. |
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dcook |
I don't know if you can force empty spans and divs to have heights :S |
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jcamins |
You can, you just can't force them to be the height they would be if they had stuff. |
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dcook |
http://man.thelostweb.com/en/m[…]h-and-height.html |
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dcook |
? |
| 02:05 |
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* dcook |
goes back to trying to figure out DSpace's undocumented searching tricks |
| 02:05 |
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jcamins |
Hrm. That doesn't quite work. |
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jcamins |
Well, I'll make it 20px for now, and worry about it later. |
| 02:08 |
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dcook |
Mmm, turns out that 2008-2010 doesn't return a date range...it only returns items from 2008 AND 2010 |
| 02:08 |
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dcook |
Grrr |
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jcamins |
In Koha? |
| 02:09 |
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dcook |
DSpace |
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wizzyrea |
oh phew. |
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wizzyrea |
it turns out tahat while drinking jasmine tea is lovely, it's really the *smell* of it I like. |
| 02:10 |
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dcook |
Sorry for any heart attacks caused there |
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wizzyrea |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi wizzyrea |
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dcook |
It is a pretty great smell |
| 02:10 |
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dcook |
Lots of jasmine bushes by my house |
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* wizzyrea |
really wants a jasmine bush by her bedroom window |
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tcohen |
sencha with jasmine |
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dcook |
(or at least I'm told that's the case and that is in fact what I was smelling :P) |
| 02:11 |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose that could be arranged easily enough. |
| 02:11 |
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wizzyrea |
but they're kind of plants that grow out of control |
| 02:11 |
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dcook |
There is a scent I smelled in Spain that makes my brain do wonderful things, but I have no idea what the plant is :S |
| 02:11 |
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wizzyrea |
honeysuckle |
| 02:11 |
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tcohen |
there are several jasmine types |
| 02:12 |
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cjh |
mmmhhmm sencha and jasmine would be lovely. |
| 02:15 |
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eythian |
dcook: sounds like the marajuana plany |
| 02:15 |
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eythian |
plant |
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dcook |
:p |
| 02:15 |
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dcook |
I think it was some sort of bush, and I think I typically smelled it at night |
| 02:16 |
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wizzyrea |
probably a type of jasmine then. |
| 02:16 |
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dcook |
I was staying in this little town outside of Malaga, and when I was walking the streets at night...so good |
| 02:16 |
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dcook |
Intriguing |
| 02:16 |
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dcook |
It's different from tthe jasmine I smell here for sure |
| 02:16 |
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tcohen |
madreselva |
| 02:16 |
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wizzyrea |
oh thank heavens above daylight savings time this weekend. |
| 02:17 |
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wizzyrea |
ends* |
| 02:17 |
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wizzyrea |
that getting up before dawn thing is for the fracking birds. |
| 02:17 |
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bag |
so that means you're only 19 hours ahead of us? |
| 02:17 |
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dcook |
madreselva = honeysuckle? |
| 02:17 |
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eythian |
It means that morning people have more morning time, but normal people have really early evenings :/ |
| 02:17 |
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tcohen |
yes dcook |
| 02:18 |
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bag |
eythian: you're a night person? |
| 02:18 |
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tcohen |
didn't realize actually |
| 02:18 |
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wizzyrea |
i prefer dark at night more than in the morning :P |
| 02:18 |
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eythian |
bag: I'm a normal person, yes :) |
| 02:18 |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: thanks for the reminder :p |
| 02:18 |
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bag |
HA |
| 02:18 |
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bag |
I'm a morning person and a night person - the middle of the day - not so much |
| 02:18 |
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dcook |
Awesome. Thanks, tcohen and wizzyrea. |
| 02:18 |
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dcook |
bag++ |
| 02:18 |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles at eythian |
| 02:18 |
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dcook |
Actually, I think I'm an all day person |
| 02:19 |
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wizzyrea |
I like the time of day when I'm getting things done. |
| 02:19 |
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dcook |
If I could have some sort of quantum sleep schedule, that would be great |
| 02:19 |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
| 02:19 |
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dcook |
I love waking up at 5am...but also love going to bed at 5am...doesn't work well |
| 02:19 |
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wizzyrea |
I want shrodingers sleep schedule - to be both awake and asleep at the same time |
| 02:19 |
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bag |
I can do a 3 months of not getting much sleep like 5~6 hours a night - but then the following month I sleep like 10~12 hours a night |
| 02:19 |
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wizzyrea |
we call that "having kids" |
| 02:19 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 02:20 |
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dcook |
I laugh now... |
| 02:20 |
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wizzyrea |
except it's more like 3-5 months of sleeping 5-6 hours a day total, and then the rest of your life wishing for the days you could sleep 10-12 |
| 02:20 |
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tcohen |
almost the same wizzyrea |
| 02:20 |
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jcamins |
Blech. Bootstrap typeahead doesn't work with contenteditable. |
| 02:21 |
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bag |
wizzyrea++ |
| 02:22 |
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wizzyrea |
actually, don't hit me... spud will usually if left un-tampered-with sleep until 9:30ish |
| 02:22 |
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wizzyrea |
am |
| 02:22 |
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wizzyrea |
and go to bed at 8:30ish pm |
| 02:22 |
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wizzyrea |
so I could technically get 12 hours if I realllly wanted it |
| 02:23 |
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wizzyrea |
but I've got STUFF TO DO ;) |
| 02:24 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 02:24 |
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bag |
Ginny 3.14 goes to sleep at 7:30 and wakes up around 6:30… but she also wakes up at 10pm, 2am and 4:30 like where the hell is my mama |
| 02:24 |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: those are your productive hours |
| 02:24 |
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dcook |
bag: I hear it's a good thing if children wake up throughout the night though in terms of parent bonding |
| 02:24 |
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* wizzyrea |
remembers those days |
| 02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
if you don't get to them quickly they'll be eaten by dingoes! |
| 02:25 |
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dcook |
I was always praised for sleeping through the night as an infant, but apparently that's because I learned to "self-soothe" |
| 02:25 |
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dcook |
Which cognitively speaking is actually harmful O_o |
| 02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
meaning, your parent's didn't come running. |
| 02:25 |
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wizzyrea |
lol. |
| 02:25 |
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dcook |
I think they're deep sleepers too :p |
| 02:25 |
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bag |
Ginny sleeps in bed with us |
| 02:25 |
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* wizzyrea |
is an 'err on the side of being closer' type |
| 02:25 |
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dcook |
Apparently it's not a good thing to leave your baby crying though |
| 02:26 |
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dcook |
In the sense of letting themselves work it out |
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bag |
she actually sleeps with her arms wrapped around my arm… |
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wizzyrea |
there's studies showing both ways. I say, whichever way is easier on ya, do it that way. |
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dcook |
bag: Aww X infinity |
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wizzyrea |
d'awwwww |
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tcohen |
jcamins: is it a blocker? |
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wizzyrea |
spud would still prefer to sleep with us but he's too big now. |
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bag |
yup so usally Ginny and I have to find Sonja who's left the bed in the middle of the night cause she can't sleep with Ginny in bed - but Ginny and I can |
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bag |
heh |
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bag |
poor sonja |
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wizzyrea |
aw |
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dcook |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
now that is irony. |
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bag |
yup :( |
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* dcook |
thinks sleeping with the cats is good preparation |
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dcook |
Except Starbuck steals the blankets in the winter... |
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bag |
but we don't have a second bedroom |
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bag |
and the qt3.14 will not sleep in her crib |
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dcook |
:/ |
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wizzyrea |
spud wouldn't either. he didn't until the crib wasn't a cage. |
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wizzyrea |
then he slept in his bed fine, the crazy kid. |
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bag |
yeah that is weird they are like cages aren't they |
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wizzyrea |
you might try the montessori type bed |
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wizzyrea |
basically a pad on the floor |
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jcamins |
tcohen: is what a blocker? |
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bag |
yeah we are thinking a pad on the floor is coming soon |
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wizzyrea |
so no falling out of bed. |
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tcohen |
the problem with bootstrap's typeahead you mentioned |
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jcamins |
No, it has nothing to do with Koha. |
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wizzyrea |
oh... no that was for something else he was working on |
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bag |
ack gotta run |
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bag |
later all |
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bag |
be well |
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wizzyrea |
byee |
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tcohen |
bye bag |
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tcohen |
ok, my brain is in automatic pilot-mode now, i obviously missed part of the convesation |
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dcook |
laterz bag |
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dcook |
twas before you joined, tochen |
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dcook |
tcohen* |
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dcook |
Wow, two dedicated Koha folks over the summer |
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dcook |
That's awesome! |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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cait |
eya :) |
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cait |
or hey |
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magnuse |
eya cait! ;-) |
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alex_a_ |
bonjour #koha |
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alex_a_ |
and cait and magnuse :) |
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cait |
bonjour alex_a_ :) |
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manny |
first question |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
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dcook |
salut alex_a_, cait, magnuse, manny |
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dcook |
Of course, I check IRC as I'm getting ready to leave |
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manny |
hello dcook |
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cait |
hey dcook - bye dcook ;) |
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dcook |
hehe ;) |
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samuel |
hi everybody |
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dcook |
I'm playing on doing some crypto stuff tonight, but maybe I'll be back on IRC over the weekend as I finally try to setup Koha on Debian.. |
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dcook |
hi/bye samuel |
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reiveune |
hello |
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dcook |
salut reiveune, paul_p |
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paul_p |
bonjour #koha |
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dcook |
One of these days I'll actually be online at the same time as Biblibre folks ;) |
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reiveune |
salut dcook |
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paul_p |
dcook come to Marseille, there's some spare sits in our office ;-) |
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reiveune |
:) |
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dcook |
I would love to do that at some point, paul_p :) |
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* magnuse |
waves again |
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dcook |
Ack! All right. Actually need to run. |
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dcook |
Bonne journée, Franco-developers. Night Oceanic folk! Etc etc! |
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asaurat |
hi |
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marcelr |
hi koha |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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marcelr |
hi drojf |
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drojf |
hi marcelr |
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magnuse |
hiya drojf and marcelr |
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drojf |
hi magnuse |
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kf |
back :) |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
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marcelr |
and kf :) |
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drojf |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi marcelr :) |
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magnuse |
wb kf |
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kf |
hi drojf :) |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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kf |
hi gaetan_B :) |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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gaetan_B |
hi kf :) |
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magnuse |
bonjour christophe_c and gaetan_B |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on April 05, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (9:30 AM CEST on April 05, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
oh well |
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magnuse |
at least we have snow... |
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paul_p |
magnuse partly cloudy... I just see blue sky from here (I work from home on friday morning) |
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magnuse |
paul_p: sounds nice :-) |
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kf |
no sun... totally cloudy here |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on April 05, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
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christophe_c1 |
back |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
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vfernandes |
one question: in Koha 3.10 or 3.8 it's possible to send a email to the users like newsletters for example? |
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kf |
vfernandes: no, currently not |
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kf |
vfernandes: i think it was once planned to have that as an option for the enhanced messagng preferences |
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kf |
but it never got fully implemented |
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vfernandes |
ok thanks kf |
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vfernandes |
maybe i will need to develop this feature soon, and then submit to the community |
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vfernandes |
:) |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
vfernandes: it would be nice if there was a way that uses can subscribe t it |
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kf |
sending them mail without their confirmation could be a problem here |
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vfernandes |
yes, for newsletters... but for example if the library wants to send a email to all patrons with the new library schedule |
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vfernandes |
there is no need of confirmation |
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vfernandes |
but that's all I need to know... if the feature doesn't exist, development is needed :) |
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kf |
i think so :) |
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kf |
maybe some artefacts in the code - it was called library events I think |
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kf |
I remember it showing up in the translations |
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vfernandes |
kf one more question: imagine that you have a record with 3 documents. It's possible when you borrow one of them to block the others (not possible to borrow)? |
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kf |
hm I don't think so |
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kf |
I know there is a new pref that won't allow to place another hold on the record |
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kf |
the problem is multivolume things |
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kf |
or serials |
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kf |
long term probably would need to be itemlevel |
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kf |
or would nice if it was |
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kf |
on itemtype level |
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kf |
fridays... |
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vfernandes |
this is what I need: 1 record with a CD, a book and one magazine... when the user tries to borrow something of this record, he will take all 3 items |
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kf |
oh |
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kf |
that's different to what I thought |
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kf |
I was thinking only allow borrowing one item at the same time |
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kf |
for multi copy things |
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vfernandes |
so what I want it's possible? |
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kf |
vfernandes: not automatically no |
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kf |
vfernandes: you could use 1 item instead and the materials note |
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kf |
it makes a note pop up on checkout and check in |
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kf |
not really what you wanted, but maybe still helpful |
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drojf |
vfernandes: you can use analytic records for that. i think easyanalytics would have one and the same item that is shown with each of the records that are part of the set. there are other ways to do it too. you might want to watch the video of jcamins' kohacon talk from last year |
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* kf |
hands over staff client translation to drojf |
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kf |
http://translate.koha-community.org/de/312/ |
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drojf |
nice try kf, unfortunately i have other things to do |
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kf |
drojf: also an option - but then you have to have a separate record for each and no check that all is given back or only one component is |
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drojf |
if you want to have a full record for a book, a cd and a something (that is how i understood it) it is an option, but yes, it is more complicated and more work |
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kf |
more confusing to the patron :) |
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drojf |
anyway, in case it is of interest http://archive.org/details/Koh[…]ticRecordsAndKoha |
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vfernandes |
thanks kf and drojf |
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kf |
@later tell wizzyrea a library noticed that the versions on the demo site are outdated - for example bywater is master not 3.8 - can I help updating them? |
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huginn |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
kf: which page is that? |
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kf |
http://koha-community.org/ |
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wahanui |
http://koha-community.org/ is, like, down |
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kf |
@later tell wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/ |
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huginn |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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kf |
um |
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kf |
my browser is beign annoying |
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kf |
@later tell wizzyrea I meant http://koha-community.org/demo/ |
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huginn |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
annoying_browsers-- |
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vfernandes |
I have to go... have a nice weekend :) |
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alohabot |
Hi mib_elw0u2, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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Viktor |
Just a quick one: do you still remeber that I asked our official goverment body for data protection about advice yesterday? |
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Viktor |
Well I got a reply _today_ :) |
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Viktor |
I won magnuse ;) |
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* magnuse |
is impressed :-) |
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magnuse |
i did send mine as a printed letter via snail-mail, though |
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Viktor |
magnuse I will not take that into consideration when gloating ;) |
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magnuse |
gah |
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* magnuse |
wanders off for a bit |
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Viktor |
magnuse I forgot the important stuff: the answer was that the needs is to govern how long personal records are kept. It's not allowed to just keep the records until the disk is full. |
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* Viktor |
wishes magnuse happy wandering and continue to pack up stuff at work for the move to a new office. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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kf |
Viktor++ |
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Hi mib_ct6pbt, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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druthb |
kf++ |
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* oleonard |
wonders if we're only communicating in karma today |
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druthb |
oleonard++ |
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druthb |
;-) |
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oleonard |
being_able_to_download_csv_of_batch_item_modifications_or_deletion_results++ |
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oleonard |
theoretically++ |
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* druthb |
blinks. |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
lol++ |
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kf |
now_I_messed_up-- |
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kf |
hm does someone know what version that could be? |
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kf |
http://katalog.bg.szczecin.pl/[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
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kf |
can't see anything in the source code |
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tcohen |
hmm, a highly customized one! |
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kf |
yeah I think customized 2.x |
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tcohen |
i was going to say, i'm not familiar with that html structure |
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tcohen |
I started working on koha on 3.0beta |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
about the same for me |
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kf |
hm bit later even |
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kf |
some time before 3.2 |
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oleonard |
It looks like a complete rewrite of the template to me, but I'm guessing based on 3.x |
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kf |
hm the result list reminded me of 3.2 |
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kf |
but there are also somet things that look newer |
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tcohen |
did 3.2 use tables for search results? |
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kf |
I think we still do, but not like that |
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kf |
with items separate |
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kf |
i was researching libraries in poland :) |
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kf |
i will just note that it's customized |
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tcohen |
i don't see the usual yui divs |
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kf |
this looks more familiar: http://katalog.wbz.uni.wroc.pl/ :) |
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tcohen |
heh |
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magnuse |
paul_p around? |
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paul_p |
magnuse yep |
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tcohen |
awk: cmd. line:4: fatal: cannot open file `/etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf' for reading (No such file or directory) |
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vfernandes |
hello |
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vfernandes |
there wasn't a topic in koha wiki to upgrade from 2.2.8 to 3.X? |
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oleonard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 ? |
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oleonard |
I don't know if that is the right one vfernandes |
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vfernandes |
that's it :) |
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vfernandes |
new client with old 2.2.8 |
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* oleonard |
cheers any upgrade from 2.x! |
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vfernandes |
let's hope that everything went right :) |
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oleonard |
paul_p: I wonder if we could agree on a list of features any one of which could trigger a version number increase? |
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paul_p |
oleonard not sure. |
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oleonard |
paul_p: I think it's a worthwhile discussion. We really have no plan for making it past 3.x.x |
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paul_p |
vfernandes I confirm the wiki page for upgrading from 2.2 I used it "recently" (something like less than a year ago) to upgrade a very old Koha ! |
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paul_p |
oleonard I agree it's a worthwhile discussion. And an easy option would be to remove the "3." ;-) |
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vfernandes |
thanks oleonard and paul_p... next week will check that :) |
| 14:33 |
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paul_p |
a major version every 6 months = a major number every 6 months. Easy to understand for everybody ! |
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oleonard |
However, I think libraries need a good understanding of how much one version differs from the next when planning whether or not to upgrade. |
| 14:34 |
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kf |
I have to say I like our way of doing it |
| 14:34 |
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oleonard |
I'm thinking in particular of independent Koha libraries for whom upgrades are more difficult and time consuming. |
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kf |
and having the possibility to announce a big change with a 4 :) |
| 14:36 |
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tcohen |
i belive we haven't clearly established the life cycle of a release, and are encouraging people to use packages in a way it may cause trouble because of major version upgrades |
| 14:38 |
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kf |
tcohen: hm not sure how it would create trouble? |
| 14:39 |
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magnuse |
i seem to remember we said once that Solr and Plack (persistence) could be triggers for 4 and 5? |
| 14:39 |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
a newly written module would qualify too I guess |
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oleonard |
Time travel for instance. |
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tcohen |
we currently support 3 releases simultaneously, right? |
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tcohen |
and users need to keep in mind they need to change oldstable, squeeze or squeeze-dev accordingly |
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tcohen |
i just mean i'd like to have something like koha-common3.8 and koha-common3.10 |
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tcohen |
which is not related to the discussion |
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tcohen |
heh |
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jcamins |
kf: I think that's a 3.x. |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
hey jcamins |
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jcamins |
What version I do not know, but 3.x. |
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Anathemizatu |
Hi, everybody! |
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Anathemizatu |
Is there someone that uses Koha with Unimarc indexing for Zebra? After update from 3.8 to the new stable version, I can't get the authority search to work |
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jcamins |
Anathemizatu: how did you install? You have to rerun the entire installation process. |
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jcamins |
And, for the record, I can't get UNIMARC to work past 3.8 either. |
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Anathemizatu |
I've installed from Debian packages |
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kf |
jcamins: ouch. is there abug? |
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kf |
jcamins: I had it working in my test installation I think, from git |
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jcamins |
kf: no, because none of the UNIMARC users have reported the problem, so I just rely on them to have actually tested the UNIMARC searching patches that I push. |
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jcamins |
Anathemizatu: I suspect it requires hand editing the configuration files. |
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kf |
jcamins: you can rely that what I qa'd for unimarc was basedon that unimarc installation I have |
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kf |
and tested there |
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jcamins |
Fortunately there haven't been many Zebra-specific UNIMARC patches. |
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Anathemizatu |
I've done a lot of experiments with it :) From the beggining I thought that it was a problem tied to bug 9256 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
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jcamins |
Yes, it has to do with the "fix" that required that fix. |
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* magnuse |
has not tested authorities in relation to 9256 |
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Anathemizatu |
I've tried to edit the configuration files as stated there, to no effect. After that I downgraded to oldstable (which in 3.8.11) |
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jcamins |
You could try the instructions on... |
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jcamins |
bug 3087 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3087 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB |
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kf |
bug 9256 |
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kf |
have a nice weekend everyone |
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mtompset |
You too, kf. |
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magnuse |
have fun kf |
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Anathemizatu |
From a SQL dump that I created before upgrading I've created a new instance, loaded the dump, upgraded the schema (which is like from 3.8.4 to 3.8.11). And when I try to do a zebra rebuild I get the error "16:46:46-05/04 zebraidx(1528) [warn] Couldn't open collection.abs [No such file or directory]" |
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Anathemizatu |
After that - 16:47:42-05/04 zebraidx(1528) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-Number) |
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magnuse |
collection.abs? never heard of that... |
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Anathemizatu |
Me neither :) Couldn't find the file anywhere on the server (at first I thought it was a faulty symlink or something) |
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jcamins |
Oooh. |
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jcamins |
I actually know what that error means. |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
It's because you're using -x for reindexing, and somewhere there's a misconfiguration so that the GRS-1 indexer isn't parsing the records. |
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jcamins |
Unfortunately, I don't know what the solution is. |
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Anathemizatu |
Yep :) I've forgotten to say that I've cahnged the configuration files in koha-conf.xml from DOM to GRS1 because I found that DOM indexing for Unimarc wasn't working |
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jcamins |
Oh, I bet I know what the problem is. |
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Anathemizatu |
I was doing it basing on this http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]March/032205.html |
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jcamins |
You have to change DOM to GRS-1 in three places (I don't remember which three). Could you have missed one? |
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jcamins |
Yes, that's only two of the places. |
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jcamins |
You also have to set <authority_indexing_thing> (I don't remember what it's called exactly) to grs1 in koha-conf.xml. |
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tcohen |
tha <config> entry for authorityserver maybe? |
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jcamins |
There are two lines... you'll spot them. |
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jcamins |
Near the end. |
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tcohen |
and the line that contains retrieval-info-auth-something |
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jcamins |
Right, those are the first two. |
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jcamins |
Maybe authority_index_mode? |
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tcohen |
oh |
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Anathemizatu |
I coudn't find any other references to DOM |
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tcohen |
jcamins, are zebra_auth_index_mode and zebra_bib_index_mode enough? |
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jcamins |
That's it. |
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jcamins |
zebra_auth_index_mode. |
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rambutan |
@seen kathryn |
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huginn |
rambutan: kathryn was last seen in #koha 1 day, 19 hours, 21 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <kathryn> hiya cait |
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oleonard |
too early for kathryn rambutan |
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jcamins |
Also, it's Saturday. |
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rambutan |
It's Saturday! What am I don't here???? |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
I hope he realizes that I meant in NZ. |
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magnuse |
jcamins: lol :-) |
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mtompset |
This is rather strange being in #koha offset by 12 hours, and starting to get back into the Koha coding/patching mindset again. |
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magnuse |
mtompset: yay! |
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mtompset |
Thanks, magnuse. |
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oleonard |
mtompset: Did you get some funding, or could you just not stay away? |
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mtompset |
A mix of both. |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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* magnuse |
can't stay away either :-) |
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mtompset |
The big problem is I'm still fiscally short. |
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mtompset |
My hope is to raise more financial partners, so that I can continue. |
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mtompset |
I succeeded at getting SimpleSAMLPHP set up from source AND packages to authenticate against an LDAP source. |
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mtompset |
Now the next big logical step: integrate that SAML 2.0 authentication with Koha somehow. Didn't someone mention BibLibre and shibboleth before? |
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* magnuse |
calls it a day, but will be upgrading customers tomorrow (3.8.11 -> 3.10.4) |
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tcohen |
paul_p: you got the words for what I was trying to say here |
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paul_p |
tcohen ? |
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wahanui |
i heard tcohen was 120 |
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jcamins |
And there goes any possible value of this discussion. |
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mtompset |
mtompset? |
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wahanui |
you are probably disliking the silent warnings flooding his error logs. |
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jcamins |
He's pulled out the "I want you to support each version of Koha for three years for free" card. |
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tcohen |
heh, it was the other paul |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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tcohen |
is he around on IRC? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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mtompset |
support each version of Koha for 3 years?! Are you crazy? Libraries and dependencies and OS's change too fast to do that. |
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tcohen |
so i can say "the bad paul" |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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mtompset |
The one that makes my country look bad. :P |
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jcamins |
You know, 3.12 is a lot nicer than 3.10. |
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jcamins |
And I'm not saying that just because I am RM. |
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tcohen |
LTS would be great, but people paying that maintenance work is needed |
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jcamins |
So many little improvements that just make life better. |
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paul_p |
just for the record : we've decided to upgrade all our customers with a 100% community version once every year. Previously, we waited for a request (and we have a few libraries still using 3.0.x, a VLTS version ;-) ) |
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mtompset |
Ooo... is VLTS the company that shall not be named? |
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jcamins |
No, Very Long Term Support. |
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tcohen |
we are starting the testing stage for 3.8 > 3.12 |
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jcamins |
You're thinking of VTLS, Virginia Tech Library Systems. |
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tcohen |
(once it is released and stuff fixed of course heh) |
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pastebot |
"jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Someone talk me out of sending this, please?" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/457 |
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chris_n |
question for all you catalogers: where/how do you catalog multiple graduate theses in a single binding in dewey/loc/foobar? |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I would be afraid he would take you up on it |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I would see that as a major win. |
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jcamins |
A maintainer for 3.6 would be excellent. |
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chris_n |
send it on |
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jcamins |
Right, you guys totally failed at persuading me not to send it. |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I would have a different record for each thesis, and use easy analytics to attach them to the same item. |
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jcamins |
(different bib record) |
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tcohen |
jcamins, the email is fine, he won't do it of course |
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jcamins |
Of course. |
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jcamins |
I really want to sign my name "Jared Camins-Esakov, Release Manager for 3.12 and former Release Maintainer for 3.6," but I'm resisting the urge. |
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jcamins |
Barely. |
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tcohen |
jcamins, a fresh 3.11.x install from squeeze-dev, isnt installing /etc/mysql/koha-common.conf |
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jcamins |
tcohen: did you forget to install MySQL? :P |
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tcohen |
do I need it if am using --request-db ? |
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jcamins |
No, but /etc/mysql/koha-common.conf can only be automatically generated if you're using a local database. |
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jcamins |
Otherwise you need to write it yourself. |
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tcohen |
so making packages use an external mysql is a pain |
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jcamins |
Not that bad. |
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jcamins |
You just need to point it at the external database. |
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tcohen |
but it needs to have root access to the external db, right? |
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jcamins |
No. |
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tcohen |
my scenario is a DBA has created 38 mysql dbs in a mysql replicated big server |
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jcamins |
It needs to have administrative access if it is going to create the database, of course. |
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tcohen |
i need to batch create all instances, pointing them to the newly created ones, which will be filled with our 3.8.x dumps |
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tcohen |
so i can make librarians test 3.12 and redo the upgrade each time |
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jcamins |
Right. You can use /etc/mysql/koha-common.conf to point to the external server, and /etc/koha/passwd to set the user/password. |
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tcohen |
by koha-common.conf you mean editing the [client] section? |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I think that's what it uses. |
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jcamins |
koha-common.cnf, rather |
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jcamins |
Yup. [client] |
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tcohen |
work on error handling will be needed for packages |
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Anathemizatu |
Thank you, jcamins, for your advice. I've added "<zebra_auth_index_mode>grs1</zebra_auth_index_mode>" to the koha-conf.xml, as is written here http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_to_dom_indexing. But now I'm getting the error "Can't call method "data" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 335." |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Anathemizatu: unfortunately, I'm out of ideas. |
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jcamins |
As I said, as far as I'm concerned, bug 3087 broke all non-MARC21 installas irretrievably. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3087 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB |
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jcamins |
*installs |
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Anathemizatu |
I've already done a sed -i 's/usmarc/unimarc/g' koha-conf.xml . Didn't help. Or should I rebuild zebra after that? |
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tcohen |
restart zebra after that |
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jcamins |
You'll have to restart and rebuild zebra after every single thing you try. |
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* mtompset |
grumbles about the fragility of zebra in this regard. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: actually, the problem isn't Zebra. |
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jcamins |
The problem is that we took poorly-written configuration files and made them much worse. |
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mtompset |
Okay, that may be true. But the zebra implementation used in Koha is fragile, because of it. |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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paul_p |
jcamins & Anathemizatu about 3087, you don't need to reindex, just restart zebra (guaranteed, I made it dozen of times for our libraries) |
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paul_p |
(but I agree it's an unusual case, and usually, you must reindex) |
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oleonard |
nengard: Can you check the version number of URI::Escape on the systems affected by Bug 9990? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9990 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , search toolbar disappears when filtering on author |
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nengard |
3.30 |
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nengard |
it's not highlighted in red or yello |
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nengard |
yellow |
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Anathemizatu |
Thank you, jcamins, huginn |
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tcohen |
jcamins, do u think bug 9409 should also add parameters for the rest of the DB's configuration? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9409 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-create --request-db should be able to accept a dbhost option |
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Anathemizatu |
It worked well :) |
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oleonard |
nengard: I would be curious to know if upgrading it to 3.31 fixed it. |
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* oleonard |
has to leave |
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jcamins |
There is a fire weather warning in Forest Hills today. |
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jcamins |
And it's supposed to be around 80 in San Antonio this weekend. |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: master is yours. |
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jcamins |
Also, good morning |
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jcamins |
. |
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chris_n |
jcamins: so one item to many bib relationship? |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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* cait |
waves |
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* chris_n |
waves back |
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chris_n |
toward the east |
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cait |
did you all agree on a cookie based name for koha yet? I say ditch the numbers! |
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cait |
sorry :) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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chris_n |
chocolate-double-fudge-and-cream |
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jcamins |
As RM, I am declaring choosing the cookie my prerogative. |
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chris_n |
lol |
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jcamins |
Curried coconut oatmeal chocolate chip is current forerunner. |
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chris_n |
I'll find it hard to disagree with whatever you choose |
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chris_n |
however... |
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chris_n |
you should be required to submit a sample batch for testing first |
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jcamins |
lol |
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cait |
and qa!! |
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chris_n |
hehe |
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cait |
which has to be done by the qam in that special case of course |
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jcamins |
lol |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
jcamins: shouldn#t the coookie start with a? |
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jcamins |
cait: why? |
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cait |
well... curried... we could name 3.8 and 3.10 too |
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cait |
because alphabetic naming would be very... libarian-ish? |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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jcamins |
I was thinking C because the RM's last name starts with a C. |
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jcamins |
:P |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
so if I ever get to be rm it has to start with fish.... |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
hopefully not :) |
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jcamins |
No, just an F. |
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cait |
i was trying to make a joke about fish and cookies... |
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cait |
it's friday, be nice |
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jcamins |
:) |
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* magnuse |
finds it very, very strange to be making pizza while the sun is shining again |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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cait |
again? |
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cait |
you got sun? |
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cait |
not fair. |
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cait |
;) |
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magnuse |
yeah, lots and lots of sun today |
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cait |
we got none |
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cait |
only grey ligth |
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* magnuse |
commiserates |
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druthb |
sunshine here. and…uhm. warm. |
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cait |
but you got the baby... the baby needs sun :) |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Royal Brook, Houston, Texas is 17.2°C (12:48 PM CDT on April 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
the sun is disappearing behind a low bank of clouds as we speak |
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magnuse |
it will probably set properly in ~20 minutes |
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magnuse |
and it's 8pm - w00t! |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "any idea why adding 'with rollup' to this report is making it show the item type again and not NULL (like I'm used to seeing)" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/459 |
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nengard |
I tested on two different datasets |
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cait |
never used with rollup |
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nengard |
it puts a total at the end |
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cait |
what are you trying to do? |
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nengard |
it's awesome |
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cait |
ah |
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nengard |
seen here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ibrary#Checkouts_.26_Renewal_Counts_by_Call_Number |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'here:', nengard |
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nengard |
and a few other reports |
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jcamins |
nengard: do you have more than one item type that should be showing up? |
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nengard |
not on that one but on another data set it picked the last item type |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins |
In that case I don't know why it's doing it. |
| 18:20 |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "jcamins" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/460 |
| 18:20 |
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nengard |
see |
| 18:20 |
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cait |
and it works without the with rollup? |
| 18:20 |
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nengard |
well it's working with the 'with rollup' |
| 18:20 |
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nengard |
it's putting a total in there |
| 18:20 |
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nengard |
just the label is usually NULL |
| 18:20 |
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tcohen |
rangi http://bikeshed.com/? |
| 18:20 |
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rangi |
morning |
| 18:21 |
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rangi |
tcohen: pretty much yes |
| 18:21 |
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cait |
morning rangi |
| 18:22 |
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nengard |
more on 'with rollup' here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]by-modifiers.html |
| 18:27 |
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mustard |
http://bikeshed.com <-- cool link, worth a read and a bookmark |
| 18:30 |
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rangi |
rambutan: there were a couple of good talks at linuxconf.au 2010 about bikeshedding too |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
t |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
yay :) |
| 18:33 |
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drojf |
magic »t«, eh? |
| 18:33 |
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jcamins |
t |
| 18:33 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! I have ops! |
| 18:33 |
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jcamins |
:P |
| 18:33 |
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rangi |
gmcharlt++ |
| 18:34 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 18:34 |
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rangi |
what i was attempting to say, but did so badly |
| 18:34 |
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druthb |
gmcharlt++ |
| 18:34 |
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cait |
hehe yes |
| 18:34 |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
| 18:34 |
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jcamins |
I was attempting to say now is a silly time to discuss it because the next version is going to be 3.12 no matter what decision is or isn't reached. |
| 18:35 |
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* cait |
agrees to stick to that and not discuss it |
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cait |
we discussed it over and over |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
I think changing it would be more confusing than anything else |
| 18:35 |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: yeah, I think paul_p was talking about 3.12.next, not 3.12 |
| 18:35 |
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drojf |
pff. we need a relese versioning manager and a team for it. and release name quality assurance. and release name testers. and signoffers. and release name translators |
| 18:35 |
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* druthb |
blames paul_p. |
| 18:36 |
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* druthb |
pokes drojf with a pointy stick |
| 18:36 |
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* gmcharlt |
is fully prepared to call the next release "Bikeshed" |
| 18:36 |
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gmcharlt |
jes' sayin' :) |
| 18:36 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: that was kind of unclear from the thread, and I wanted to make it explicit, just in case people were getting involved because they thought that they could have a nice marketing point on May 23. |
| 18:37 |
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drojf |
bikeshed chocolate chip cookie and i'm in |
| 18:37 |
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drojf |
:D |
| 18:37 |
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gmcharlt |
drojf++ |
| 18:37 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 18:38 |
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cait |
I still think the cookie should start with a |
| 18:38 |
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rangi |
afghan cookie? |
| 18:39 |
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cait |
that's a thing? |
| 18:39 |
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rangi |
http://australianfood.about.co[…]fghanBiscuits.htm |
| 18:39 |
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drojf |
black afghan cookie is a thing :D |
| 18:39 |
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rangi |
it is |
| 18:39 |
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rangi |
all nz kids learn how to make them |
| 18:39 |
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rangi |
they are super easy to make |
| 18:39 |
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jcamins |
Maybe I should try them. |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
they have chocolate |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
and nuts |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
... they look like they could be considered |
| 18:40 |
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rangi |
and cornflakes :) |
| 18:40 |
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jcamins |
Of course, it requires two types of sugar and one type of cereal that I don't keep in the house. |
| 18:41 |
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rangi |
the icing sugar is just for the icing, and you can just use regular sugar not castor |
| 18:41 |
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rangi |
you just have to cream it a bit more |
| 18:42 |
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* cait |
suggests rangi submits a couple of those to the qam for qa... |
| 18:42 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 18:42 |
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rangi |
oh hey |
| 18:43 |
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rangi |
at linuxconf |
| 18:43 |
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drojf |
thanks to afghan cookies i learned that there is a website that sells "fact sheets" on "how to buy hash online". yay internet |
| 18:43 |
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rangi |
one night a bunch of people took over their hotel kitchen |
| 18:43 |
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rangi |
and cooked a big shared meal |
| 18:44 |
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rangi |
i wonder if we could try to do someting like that at kohacon |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
that would be fun :) |
| 18:44 |
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jcamins |
That might be fun. |
| 18:45 |
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rangi |
it was easier here, cos it was a hostel type hotel thingy anyway |
| 18:45 |
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rangi |
so there was a communal kitchen space |
| 18:45 |
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rangi |
i dont think the hotel in reno would actually let us use there kitchen |
| 18:45 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I'm not so sure it would be doable, but I do think it might be fun. |
| 18:45 |
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druthb |
+1 |
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rangi |
their |
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rangi |
even |
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* druthb |
would make her evil peanut brittle! |
| 18:46 |
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bag |
cheese and crackers and hummas extra :) |
| 18:46 |
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cait |
lemon cake :) |
| 18:46 |
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bag |
or something were you could make food without having to cook |
| 18:46 |
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druthb |
Hi, bag! |
| 18:46 |
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cait |
or fennel salad hehe |
| 18:46 |
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bag |
hey Ruth |
| 18:46 |
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druthb |
fennel_salad++ |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
bag: oh good idea, people could bring something each |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
i know the US has way way way less strict rules about bringing in food than nz |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
so i could bring afghan cookies with me :) |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
or anzac biscuits |
| 18:48 |
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jcamins |
rangi: as long as it's cooked, they don't care at all. |
| 18:48 |
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Dyrcona |
Oh! Anzac biscuits and NZ marmite! |
| 18:48 |
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rangi |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_biscuit |
| 18:48 |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 18:48 |
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jcamins |
Dyrcona: no marmite. There's a crisis, man! |
| 18:48 |
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jcamins |
They had to impose rationing! |
| 18:48 |
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Dyrcona |
But... no marmite means no beer! |
| 18:48 |
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druthb |
Dyrcona: no marmite. 'cuz it's *nasty* |
| 18:48 |
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* Dyrcona |
sobs.... |
| 18:48 |
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druthb |
Tar in a jar. |
| 18:49 |
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rangi |
i think they are finally making it again |
| 18:49 |
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cait |
but now you can't buy because the company is evil or something? |
| 18:49 |
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* cait |
has seen a blog post somewhere |
| 18:49 |
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cait |
they only ship to the big chains it said |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO4H8vt8QRU |
| 18:49 |
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rangi |
yeah, they dont pay taxes |
| 18:49 |
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rangi |
and only ship to the big chains |
| 18:49 |
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* Dyrcona |
saw some discussion in the Google+ New Zealand group that the new marmite tastes different from the old. |
| 18:49 |
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rangi |
sanitarium arent the nicest company |
| 18:50 |
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druthb |
yeah, someone here in the US discovered it's good for paving roads, and cheaper than oil, so.... |
| 18:50 |
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drojf |
lol |
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rangi |
however kraft who make vegemite |
| 18:50 |
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rangi |
are philip morris |
| 18:50 |
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rangi |
so they suck too |
| 18:50 |
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Dyrcona |
druthb: So, that's what they're doing in Arkansas? |
| 18:50 |
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druthb |
Given the quality of the roads in Arkansas, I would not be at all surprised. |
| 18:50 |
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Dyrcona |
rangi: So, make your own.... ;) |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
yep :) |
| 18:51 |
|
* Dyrcona |
was referring to the oil pipeline spill that is being ignored by mainstream media.... |
| 18:51 |
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* jcamins |
is not a big fan of marmite. |
| 18:51 |
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jcamins |
Or vegemite. |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
or get the english marmite which tastes slightly different again |
| 18:51 |
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* Dyrcona |
has actually never had either. |
| 18:51 |
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druthb |
oh, I know, Dyrcona. It's been touched on some here. Nasty mess, that. |
| 18:52 |
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drojf |
1+ for termite. deep fried and crunchy |
| 18:52 |
|
* Dyrcona |
is bored. Waiting on SQL scripts to finish running. |
| 18:52 |
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jcamins |
A friend sent me a link to a cicada cookbook. |
| 18:52 |
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jcamins |
Apparently they're expecting up to 1 billion cicadas per square mile in New York City. |
| 18:53 |
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drojf |
woah |
| 18:53 |
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drojf |
just walk along with your mouth open :D |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 18:53 |
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Dyrcona |
yep. biking keeps one's belly filled. |
| 18:54 |
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jcamins |
Actually, I'd think about trying it, if I could think of a way to catch clean ones. |
| 18:54 |
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cait |
... you know how you recognize the nice bikers? |
| 18:54 |
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jcamins |
Since I live in New York City, that doesn't seem possible. |
| 18:55 |
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Dyrcona |
jcamins: These the 17-year cicadas? |
| 18:55 |
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jcamins |
Dyrcona: yep. |
| 18:55 |
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Dyrcona |
jcamins: We mostly have annual cicadas 'round here. |
| 18:55 |
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rangi |
cait: how? |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
But I refuse to pay for them. |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
Unless, I guess, they're less than $2/lb. |
| 18:56 |
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* druthb |
waits for it, knowing the answer to cait's question. |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
Dyrcona: my grandparents have annual cicadas around where they live. |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
Or used to. |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
Actually, I can't remember hearing them in recent years. |
| 18:57 |
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druthb |
she's mean, leaving rangi hanging like that. |
| 18:57 |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah...used to..... |
| 18:57 |
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Dyrcona |
We still have them here. |
| 18:57 |
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cait |
bad german joke :) |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
Dyrcona: so... dinner? |
| 18:58 |
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druthb |
oh, it's a bad American joke, too. |
| 18:58 |
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cait |
you recognize them becuse they have flies between their teeth (from smiling) |
| 18:58 |
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druthb |
"From the bugs in their teeth," yes. :P |
| 18:58 |
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cait |
heh |
| 18:58 |
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cait |
bad jokes everywhere :) |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
Very nice. |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
Shari would never try a cicada, I fear. |
| 18:59 |
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* druthb |
agrees with jcamind |
| 18:59 |
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druthb |
jcamins, even |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
Bah. |
| 18:59 |
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druthb |
I fear she'd flip her lid. |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
Cicadas aren't kosher. |
| 18:59 |
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Dyrcona |
jcamins: Because of the shell? |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
Because it flies instead of jumping. |
| 18:59 |
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Dyrcona |
Strange rules..... |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
But locust are. |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
I always thought locust flew in great black clouds. |
| 19:00 |
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Dyrcona |
Ah, but they can also jump.... |
| 19:00 |
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druthb |
Ya watched that Charlton Heston movie too much, jcamins. |
| 19:01 |
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Dyrcona |
So, guess that's an exception. |
| 19:01 |
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jcamins |
druthb: hehe. |
| 19:01 |
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Dyrcona |
;) |
| 19:01 |
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jcamins |
druthb: actually, it was Little House on the Prairie. |
| 19:02 |
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druthb |
Mankind has managed to either drive to extinction, or domesticate, practically every animal worth eating. Insects are the second-most-populous lifeform on Earth, and are not domesticated, by and large. These two facts *may* be related. Ick ick ick. |
| 19:02 |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
So... you're saying you'd like a package of these for Christmas: http://www.amazon.com/Hotlix-C[…]ered+grasshoppers ? |
| 19:03 |
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druthb |
hm. |
| 19:04 |
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druthb |
Let me think..... |
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druthb |
no. |
| 19:04 |
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druthb |
Do it, and see what happens, little man. *ebil eye* |
| 19:04 |
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jeff |
jcamins: i have received conference booth swag consisting of an insect in a sucker. branded with some "we lick bugs" slogan or something. |
| 19:04 |
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jcamins |
jeff: nice! |
| 19:05 |
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druthb |
They sell those around here. Tequila worms, in a liquor-flavored lollypop. |
| 19:05 |
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jeff |
jcamins: of course, i'm pretty sure this was comdex 2000 or linux business expo or something. i hope that i threw it out in a timely fashion. |
| 19:06 |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
Locust are very high in protein. |
| 19:07 |
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Dyrcona |
As are most insects and larvae. |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
http://www.planetscott.com/babes/nutrition.asp |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
The More You Know! |
| 19:07 |
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druthb |
So are beans. And steak. And chicken. And none of those have the crunchy shell thing going on. |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
or so many legs |
| 19:08 |
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Dyrcona |
heh |
| 19:08 |
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jcamins |
Be sure to remove the fangs when eating "very large spiders." |
| 19:09 |
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druthb |
cait++ |
| 19:09 |
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Dyrcona |
jcamins: In Australia, the spiders eat you. ;) |
| 19:09 |
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druthb |
! |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
druthb: nz is safe |
| 19:11 |
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druthb |
The closest thing to an insect I'll eat is certain crustaceans, and only if someone else does the cleanin', and removin' all the legs. |
| 19:11 |
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jcamins |
And apparently a natural habitat for delicious locust! :P |
| 19:12 |
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Dyrcona |
I love this quote from that site: We strongly hope that our definition will prove helpful in your selection of ingredients. |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
druthb: I am with you on that |
| 19:13 |
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jcamins |
Dyrcona: heh. |
| 19:14 |
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Dyrcona |
From Wikipedia: Many New Zealand cicada species differ from those of other countries by being found high up on mountain tops. |
| 19:15 |
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drojf |
very large spiders? nonononono |
| 19:15 |
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drojf |
crunchy locust, why not. but spiders, never |
| 19:16 |
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jcamins |
drojf: actually, I feel the same way. |
| 19:17 |
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chris_n |
"scorpions (cut off the stinger)" |
| 19:18 |
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drojf |
the stinger is the best part :D |
| 19:18 |
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* chris_n |
feels sorry for the poor fool who does not |
| 19:18 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 19:27 |
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drojf |
so, what insects are typical for reno? ;) |
| 19:28 |
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jcamins |
Scorpions, I think. |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
ew |
| 19:29 |
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jcamins |
I know they're in other parts of Nevada, anyway. |
| 19:29 |
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drojf |
search throws »adult ladybugs«… not sure if insect or porn site. afraid to open :D |
| 19:30 |
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jcamins |
There are lots of ladybugs in New Jersey. I don't think they're particularly edible. |
| 19:30 |
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cait |
lol |
| 19:31 |
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drojf |
»phidippus_mystaceus_3_tile_hex2 My favorite jumping spider, now with improved hexagonal transformation!« with pictures. yikes |
| 19:31 |
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* cait |
won't look |
| 19:31 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 19:39 |
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chris_n |
drojf: black widows too |
| 19:39 |
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chris_n |
not as edible I think |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: probably not. |
| 19:43 |
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drojf |
cait couldn't take it anymore |
| 19:43 |
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druthb |
:P |
| 19:44 |
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gmcharlt |
the 3.12.x branch is now a thing |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
Hooray! |
| 19:45 |
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drojf |
3.12.x? don't you mean »koha spidercrunch«? |
| 19:46 |
|
* jcamins |
is trying to be serious here! |
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* druthb |
isn't. |
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* cait |
waves |
| 19:54 |
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druthb |
welcome back, cait! |
| 19:54 |
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cait |
now I missd the branching |
| 19:54 |
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cait |
was there a party? |
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druthb |
an amazing party |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins |
cait: yes, we served chocolate covered locust! |
| 19:54 |
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druthb |
you missed it. |
| 19:54 |
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cait |
oh noes! |
| 19:54 |
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cait |
lol |
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* druthb |
wields pointy stick, takes aim at jcamins |
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* mtompset |
chuckles at jcamins' remark. "It's relatively true." |
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drojf |
loculateâ„¢ |
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jcamins |
You know what I would find more useful than the modal we are currently using for previews on Z39.50 imports? |
| 20:11 |
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jcamins |
An expander thingy so that I can look at more than one record. |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
diff view? :) |
| 20:12 |
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jcamins |
That'd be even cooler. |
| 20:12 |
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jcamins |
But I had in mind just a... |
| 20:13 |
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* jcamins |
checks what it's called |
| 20:13 |
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jcamins |
Bootstrap calls it a "collapse." |
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cait |
night all :) |
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wizzyrea |
where is Samuel from? |
| 21:48 |
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wizzyrea |
anybody? Anybody? |
| 21:50 |
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rangi |
france somewhere |
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* wizzyrea |
will say france, hope it's right |
| 22:03 |
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wizzyrea |
bgkriegel - about? |
| 22:04 |
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rangi |
hi mcooper |
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mtj |
haay chris, ive just been reading the bikeshedding stuff on the tubes, its very interesting |
| 22:12 |
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mtj |
but… i think for koha, there have been less of this behaviour of late |
| 22:12 |
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rangi |
except for release numbers yes |
| 22:12 |
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rangi |
i mean that thread now has 20 mails |
| 22:13 |
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bag |
I was going to comment just to comment |
| 22:13 |
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bag |
I'm taking the over at 25 :P |
| 22:13 |
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rangi |
be nice if a please sign this bug off prompted that kinda response :) |
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* wizzyrea |
missed something important eh |
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bag |
beat you some beer at Reno rangi |
| 22:13 |
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bag |
whoops bet not beat |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: nope, entirely the point, something unimportant that comes up every so often to distract from actual stuff :) |
| 22:14 |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/rele[…]-code-pi-elected/ >.> |
| 22:14 |
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bag |
but that's eveil :P it could be at 25 and I could write some dumb comment and win :) |
| 22:14 |
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mtj |
i feel ashamed for participating in the thread, last time round... |
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bag |
ok so my comments don't count |
| 22:14 |
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* wizzyrea |
has been doing important things. |
| 22:14 |
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rangi |
i like gmcharlt idea, pick some scheme and never talk about it again |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
wizzyrea++ |
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bag |
that's a really nice and big team |
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bag |
biggest so far :) |
| 22:15 |
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wizzyrea |
I vote we send pie to the RM from all over the world on a successful release. :) |
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mtj |
from memory, i suggested we use vegetable names for koha releases, (and some other stuff too) |
| 22:15 |
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bag |
good call |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders how to get a steak and cheese to gmcharlt from here... |
| 22:15 |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: I can get behind that pie proposal :) |
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bag |
or we coudl shaving cream pie him at the conference |
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wizzyrea |
hehehe |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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wizzyrea |
no. |
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bag |
heh :P |
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mtj |
rangi, i like gmcharlt's idea too |
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gmcharlt |
bag: if you're going to pie me, at least make it edible! ;) |
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bag |
whipped cream pie! |
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bag |
only former RM's can do that - I guess |
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wizzyrea |
hm no, I think RM humiliation is right out. |
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bag |
so umm gmcharlt you can whipped cream pie yourself (sounds odd) |
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wizzyrea |
can we just leave off pies in the face altogether? :P |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea++ # ;) |
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bag |
but it's fun :( |
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wizzyrea |
for whom? :P |
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bag |
the pie |
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* wizzyrea |
gets out the mom voice |
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wizzyrea |
we will have no hazing of RM's |
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wizzyrea |
they get enough punishment as it is. |
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wizzyrea |
</mom> |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add <wizzyrea> we will have no hazing of RM's |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #240 added. |
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quocuy |
Hello #koha |
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wizzyrea |
hey quocuy - question, where are you from? |
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quocuy |
ýe |
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wizzyrea |
it's for the release team post on the KC website |
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quocuy |
yes, i come from Vietnam |
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jcamins |
I hear the current RM accepts cookies, cakes, *and* pies. In case you wondered. |
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quocuy |
i often login here :) |
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wizzyrea |
we did wonder, actually |
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wizzyrea |
are you affiliated with a library |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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quocuy |
ok, i tried to print library card with Koha |
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wizzyrea |
quocuy: |
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quocuy |
problem is that, i can't print name in unicode |
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wizzyrea |
hm yes this is probably a limitation of the PDF output possibly? |
| 22:43 |
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quocuy |
searched, asked in mailling list, Christ told me, no resolution has not yet |
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quocuy |
yes |
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quocuy |
i'm not affiliated with a library, what i am trying to do is make Koha become popular in my country |
| 22:45 |
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quocuy |
because this's perfect opensource |
| 22:45 |
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quocuy |
hello jcamins |
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wizzyrea |
quocuy: cool :) |
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quocuy |
thanks |
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quocuy |
so there is not solution for this? |
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bag |
@notes |
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huginn |
bag: I currently have notes waiting for #koha, Brooke:, cait,, cait:, ccurry, chris_c, chris_n,, chris_n:, christ, cindy, Culiforg:, dpavlin:, druthb_away, druthb_away:, ebegin, eythian:, Genji:, gmcharlt:, hackfesters, hankbank, hdl:, hdl_laptop:, http://www.ub.uni-dortmund.de/[…]bib/msg48204.html, jcamin, jcamins:, juan-siera, kf,, km_kale, kmkale:, kyleh, LadyNight32, lducos, magnus_waffles, manguse, (1 more message) |
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rangi |
@later tell quocuy yes, you need to rewrite the labels using css/html instead of pdf .. but in the meantime there are some patches using truetype fonts to bandaid over the fact that native pdf fonts do not support utf8 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
