IRC log for #koha, 2013-03-17

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00:30 gmcharlt @quote random
00:30 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
00:30 gmcharlt oldie but goodie
00:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #77: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/77/
00:33 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 8853: Suppress links in basketgroups list
00:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9695 - Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches
00:33 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: bug 9784: add koha-shell to the koha-common man page
00:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8853 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , clicking basketgroup name in closed basketgroups reopens it
00:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9695 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches
00:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9784 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell missing from koha-common man page
00:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #281 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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01:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #281: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/281/
01:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9695 - Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches
01:11 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: bug 9784: add koha-shell to the koha-common man page
01:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9695 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches
01:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9784 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell missing from koha-common man page
01:33 jcamins Drat. The old attachments were not obsoleted.
02:07 jenkins_koha Starting build #1079 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
02:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_4906' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]46536d75cdfa9d2e2> / Bug 4906: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57aab3be0e1e10fb8> / Bug 4906: Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=aba4f05b809
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03:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1079: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1079/
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Add QueryParser module to Koha
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Introduce QueryParser driver for PQF
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Add syspref to enable QueryParser
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Allow the use of QueryParser for all queries
03:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 follow-up: POD and perlcritic fixes
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 follow-up: update koha-conf.xml
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: fix highlighting and merge error
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA-follow-up: quiet warnings and fix problem with limits
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: escape CGI input
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: the last QA follow-up was missing a require
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: don't fall back to kw if field is specified
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: remove stray debug code
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: better error handling
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: escape quotes in searches
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: amend error handling
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: fix overeager quote escaping
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Disable QP by default
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Increment version number
03:17 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 4906: Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period
03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4906: Increment version number
03:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period
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05:34 cait @wunder marseille
05:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (6:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
05:34 cait @wunder Konstanz
05:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.2°C (6:30 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
05:34 cait over 10 degrees difference... hmpf :)
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05:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #78 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
06:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #78: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/78/
06:34 jenkins_koha Mathieu Saby: Bug 4266: Hide Encumbrance and Expenditure in aqbudgets.tt
06:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4266 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , encumbrance and expenditure not used in code
06:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #282 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #282: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/282/
07:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 4266: Hide Encumbrance and Expenditure in aqbudgets.tt
07:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7596 - System prefs editor JS contains untranslatable English string
07:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9765 - Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc
07:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4266 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , encumbrance and expenditure not used in code
07:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , System preferences editor JavaScript contains untranslatable English string
07:12 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9765 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc
07:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #79 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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07:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #79: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/79/
07:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7596 - System prefs editor JS contains untranslatable English string
07:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9765 - Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc
07:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , System preferences editor JavaScript contains untranslatable English string
07:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9765 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc
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08:02 rangi hi wizzyrea and cait-m_
08:02 wizzyrea whaddup
08:02 cait-m_ hello :)
08:02 cait-m_ on a train
08:02 cait-m_ the usual
08:02 rangi heh
08:02 wizzyrea :)
08:03 cait-m_ on my way to marseille!
08:06 rangi yay!
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08:08 cait-m_ yay!
08:08 cait-m_ zürich soon switching trains there
08:14 cait-m_ @wunder marseille
08:14 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
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08:32 * cait-m_ waves again
08:59 wizzyrea wow things coming from the US are really very slow tonight.
08:59 wizzyrea internet things, that is
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09:17 rangi hi paul_p
09:22 wizzyrea we did finally upgrade our license to gpl3 right?
09:22 rangi yep
09:23 wizzyrea cool, will fix the about page which just says 2+
09:23 wizzyrea unless that doesn't need to be done
09:23 * wizzyrea is never sure what actually matters
09:26 wizzyrea also should we be concerned that the sudoc icon set is a by-sa-nc license?
09:43 rangi hmm yes, yes we should
09:44 rangi if that is the only license, then we need to remove it
09:45 rangi stupid nc
09:48 rangi at least we havent done a release with them yet
09:49 rangi jcamins: something we need to sort out before 3.12 released http://www.abes.fr/Sudoc/Boite[…]/Les-icones-Sudoc
09:50 rangi right bed time
09:51 wizzyrea gnite :)
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10:21 cait-m_ @wunder marseille
10:21 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (11:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
10:22 cait-m_ hm
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11:42 cait-m_ @wunder geneve
11:42 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in GRAND-SACONNEX, Switzerland is 5.3°C (12:36 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
11:43 cait-m_ @wunder konstanz
11:43 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.9°C (12:40 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
11:43 cait-m_ @wunder marseille
11:43 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (12:30 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
11:46 jcamins Blergh.
11:48 cait-m_ huh?
11:48 jcamins Sudoc icons are licensed CC-BY-NC-SA.
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13:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Correct order of updatedatabase entries <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0f2cbeee75954a4a>
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13:31 * cait-m_ waves from the train again
13:31 cait-m_ @wunder marseille
13:31 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (2:00 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
13:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #1080 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 17 hr ago)
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13:42 * jcamins wonders if saying "liw" three times will summon the master Debian packager.
13:43 liw why would say  my name summon eythian?
13:48 jcamins I was thinking of you. :P
13:49 jcamins Sorry for the pause, I was walking about the apartment cogitating on version numbers.
13:49 jcamins I want to prepare a 3.12-alpha release, with packages.
13:49 jcamins The packages will naturally go in the squeeze-dev repo.
13:50 jcamins What I can't figure out is how to version them so that they are considered older than the 3.12.0 release.
13:50 jcamins (by apt)
13:52 jcamins 3.12 will be released as 3.12.00-1.
13:53 jcamins I'm thinking maybe the thing to do is version it 3.11.00.100~3.12alpha-1.
13:53 jcamins Does that make sense?
13:54 tcohen its me or rangi is trying to hurry things to leave as RMaint?
13:54 tcohen jcamins, I like the latter
13:56 jcamins tcohen: everyone is very ready for the 3.12 release cycle to be over, I think.
13:57 jcamins tcohen: the problem is making the versions work with Debian's package numbering checker thing.
13:57 jcamins So that entire thing would be the version number.
13:57 tcohen yes, that's whyi like the second one, it resembles how alpha and beta KDE's releases are spreaded
13:58 jcamins Oh, excellent!
13:58 jcamins That's perfect. :)
14:03 jcamins Let's see how many times I can roll a tarball today, shall we?
14:04 tcohen heh
14:05 jcamins (hint: many, many, many times)
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14:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.12-alpha release <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]909db31d20d12461b> / Add release notes for 3.12-alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6037ae6cfb0307471>
14:10 jcamins Oh, good news: I didn't push the tag yet so I can try again if I made a mistake.
14:13 jcamins And I'm pretty sure I did.
14:14 jcamins Wait, no, I did push it, and I did make a mistake.
14:14 jcamins Oh well.
14:16 * jcamins decides to ignore it.
14:30 jcamins Does Marseille have an 's' at the end?
14:30 jcamins No, right?
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14:32 jcamins Does anyone know how many people will be in Marseille?
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14:45 liw jcamins, I'd do 3.12~alpha-1-1 for the Debian package number, actually
14:45 jcamins liw: but will that file before 3.12.00?
14:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1080: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1080/
14:46 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Correct order of updatedatabase entries
14:47 liw jcamins, you try it like this: if dpkg --compare-versions 3.12~alpha-1-1 lt 3.12.00; then echo less than; else echo greater than; fi
14:47 jcamins Cool!
14:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #1081 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 18 hr ago)
14:47 jcamins Thanks.
14:47 liw jcamins, basically, in Debian, ~ (tilde) sorts as less than anything else (including dot and empty string)
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14:48 jcamins That --compare-versions flag is great to know about.
15:07 jcamins @later tell eythian Ping me when you're around, please. I want to upload a new package to squeeze-dev.
15:07 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
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15:13 tcohen #koha, what do u think of signing Koha for static analysis by Coverity?
15:14 tcohen several  FOSS projects like Linux, Firefox, LibreOffice use that service
15:14 jcamins I think it would be difficult to convince anyone to pay for it.
15:15 tcohen its free for Open Source projects
15:15 Dyrcona tcohen: I have no opinion, but would you mind supplying a URL for reference?
15:15 tcohen Commercial site: http://www.coverity.com/
15:15 Dyrcona tcohen: ty
15:15 jcamins Where do you get that, tcohen?
15:15 * Dyrcona is lazy. ;)
15:15 tcohen Coverity Scan (for FOSS code) http://scan.coverity.com/
15:15 jcamins I see only "request a free trial."
15:16 jcamins Ah.
15:16 jcamins I spoke to quickly.
15:16 tcohen np jcamins
15:16 jcamins *too
15:16 jcamins I think it would be a good idea.
15:16 * Dyrcona is trying to figure out how to add dual license headers to source files: GPLv2 and MPL 2.0.
15:17 tcohen jcamins, I still didn't figure it out how to test for persistence-related problems, and was digging around for this kind of tools
15:18 jcamins Dyrcona: should I ask why you'd want to?
15:19 Dyrcona Yeah. I'm copying some MPL 2.0 code into a larger work covered by the GPL v2.
15:19 Dyrcona MPL 2.0 allows that, as long as the originally MPL'd code is effectively dual-licensed.
15:20 Dyrcona So the person who receives the code has the option of GPL or MPL for the specific code in question.
15:22 jcamins Ah.
15:22 tcohen jcamins, hsuold i try to register?
15:22 tcohen maybe I'd better ask at koha-devel first
15:22 jcamins tcohen: I'd ask on the mailing list first.
15:23 jcamins Do they do Perl projects, though?
15:23 jcamins Well, I think 3.12-alpha is thoroughly released.
15:23 tcohen i should ask
15:32 jcamins tcohen++
15:50 tcohen #koha, if I was to propose a major source reorganization (a.k.a. sanitizing the source structure), should I start a RFC wiki first?
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15:53 tcohen jcamins++ for the marketing campaign to get more signers
15:54 jcamins tcohen: RFCs are always a good idea, but better to do things gradually, I think.
15:54 jcamins (and submit patches that do things in very small chunks)
15:54 tcohen yes, of course
15:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1081: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1081/
15:55 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add release notes for 3.12-alpha
15:55 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Increment version for 3.12-alpha release
15:55 tcohen but I wouldn't do that if there was no consensus about how to achieve it
15:55 jcamins There will never be much in the way of consensus.
15:56 jcamins Person A will insist that we must use Moose for EVERYTHING.
15:56 jcamins Person B will insist that we should just use Dancer.
15:56 jcamins Person C mojolicious.
15:56 jcamins Person D Catalyst.
15:56 jcamins Etc.
15:57 tcohen I just want to propose something like: create a src/lib dir to put C4 and Koha in
15:57 tcohen src/opac src/intranet
15:58 jcamins Oh.
15:58 tcohen that will make things like Makefiles and install scripts easier to maintain
15:58 tcohen of course I will mimic Dancer way of organizing stuf :-P :-P
15:59 jcamins Hehe.
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16:12 tcohen any thoughts about sphinx?
16:14 jcamins tcohen: none.
16:14 cait th eone with the riddles? :P
16:14 * cait waves from a hotel in marseille!!
16:14 cait no more trains today, so glad
16:14 jcamins Yay!
16:15 cait so um. does someeone else remember when bag said he will arrive in marseille? :P
16:15 jcamins No.
16:15 jcamins logs?
16:15 wahanui logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
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16:16 cait i tried
16:16 cait hi NateC
16:16 jcamins Ask NateC?
16:16 cait have yo uheard from bag eventually?
16:16 NateC hi cait and jcamins
16:16 cait jcamins: I am :)
16:17 NateC bag is in Paris at the hackfest me thinks
16:17 NateC i just got back from vacation
16:17 NateC so im a little out of touch myself
16:17 tcohen isn't bag logged here actually?
16:18 cait NateC: the hackfest is in marseille ;)
16:18 jcamins tcohen: yeah, but that's just bip.
16:18 cait and I am here at the hotel, wondering when they might be in :)
16:18 NateC see out of touch :)
16:18 NateC ah
16:18 NateC cant help you there unfortunately :(
16:20 cait ok
16:20 cait i left a note at the hackfest google spreadshee thingy
16:20 tcohen http://blogs.perl.org/users/mi[…]r-and-sphinx.html
16:20 jcamins How many people will be there?
16:20 cait I think around 30
16:20 cait dpavlin is here to take me for coffee
16:20 cait talk to you all later :)
16:20 jcamins Bye.
16:27 tcohen jcamins, what is moose the common factor for dancer, mojolicious, catalyst and moose itself?
16:27 tcohen s/what//
16:28 jcamins I'm not sure if mojolicious uses moose, but certainly the other three do.
16:29 jcamins Mouse would probably be a better goal for 3.14.
16:30 jcamins We're making our way toward persistence, but only slowly.
16:33 jcamins Speaking of which...
16:33 * jcamins goes looking for the nginx/Plack bug.
16:33 tcohen persistence as in ORM or DBIx::Class?
16:34 jcamins Persistence as in Plack.
16:35 libsysguy so I think that the difference between moose moo and mouse is trivial
16:35 tcohen "solve variable persistence problems that arise when running Koha under Plack"
16:35 libsysguy in terms of actual application use
16:35 tcohen Moo and Mouse are similar, and Moose is heavy?
16:35 libsysguy just use the immutable function in moose and you'll be fine
16:35 jcamins libsysguy: yeah, but in terms of overhead, mouse is a lot more practical under CGI.
16:36 libsysguy I don't know if I'd consider any of them under CGI :p
16:36 jcamins Oh, you said moo.
16:36 jcamins tcohen: right. I don't care which one.
16:36 jcamins (mouse or moo)
16:36 libsysguy moo and mouse are basically truncated versions of Moose
16:36 libsysguy which is heavy
16:37 tcohen libsysguy: would they run fine under mod_perl¡
16:37 tcohen ?
16:37 libsysguy I'm not sure that is the right direction to take
16:37 jcamins tcohen: better to focus on Plack.
16:37 libsysguy I think to successfully run them you are going to want plack
16:37 libsysguy yeah…what jcamins said
16:37 jcamins We are closer to Plack compatibility than mod_perl compatibility.
16:38 jcamins By a longshot.
16:38 tcohen moose + immutable looks fine me :-P
16:38 libsysguy there are going to be several iterations of refactors before any of them are going to work
16:39 * libsysguy knows since he has been pushing for this for…a year?
16:39 libsysguy is a year about right jcamins?
16:39 jcamins Something like that.
16:40 libsysguy tcohen I pushed for catalyst
16:40 libsysguy but I just didn't have the time to do it myself
16:40 libsysguy and without a successful proof of concept I didn't make it far with discussion alone :p
16:44 libsysguy anywho thats my two cents on the subject :p
16:44 * libsysguy goes back down the hole
16:44 jcamins tcohen: pity about Coverity.
16:45 jcamins Dyrcona: Coverity supports C/C++/Java only, but EG has a fair amount of that, so it might be worth looking into.
17:08 Dyrcona jcamins: Thanks. I'll make a note of that.
17:42 * jcamins waves vigorously to druthb.
17:43 * druthb waves back, slightly less-vigorously.
17:44 druthb @later tell wizzyrea "oh, he's good on longer trips," she says, and ho ho ho...Pixel meowed worriedly pretty-much nonstop for eighteen hours.
17:44 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded.
17:44 jcamins lol
17:44 druthb Cap was givin' him the stink eye, like "will you PUH-LEASE STFU?"  :P
17:44 jcamins lol
17:47 druthb They seem to be adapting well, though.  They've discovered how to perch in my bedroom window, which has a decent-ish view of the pool (and our AC unit, which makes interesting noises)
17:48 jcamins If they're anything like Myshkin, they can perch on *anything* if it gives them a view of birds.
17:48 druthb oh, wait...I'm sorry...jcamins, didn't you say yesterday that it was *snowing* there?  We've got folks laying out by the pool in eeety-bitty things.
17:48 druthb tsk.
17:48 * druthb thinks about jcamins' snow, and is not-jelly.
17:48 jcamins Hehe.
17:48 jcamins It's not snowing today, at least.
18:45 rangi jcamins++ #good newsletter and 3.12-alpha
18:46 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
18:46 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
18:46 jcamins Thanks.
18:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #1082 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 22 hr ago)
18:50 libsysguy_afk druthb?
18:50 wahanui druthb is our translation manager for 3.12
18:50 rangi @later tell tcohen ive already started that https://gitorious.org/koha/mai[…]its/tidy_intranet
18:50 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
18:50 druthb libsysguy?
18:50 wahanui libsysguy is koha's hottest developer or partying with Swedes on his deck
18:51 libsysguy_afk druthb you made it?!?!
18:51 libsysguy_afk welcome to the H!
18:51 druthb No. I am a well-defined figment of your imagination.
18:51 jcamins Is that well-defined in the Haskell or PHP sense?
18:51 druthb :P
18:51 druthb "Yes."
18:51 jcamins PHP, then.
18:52 libsysguy_afk I prefer to think of it as a well defined set in mathematics
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19:10 rangi right time to take the kids to school then off to work
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19:29 drojf jcamins: i just updated master. when i turn on UseQueryParser my search is broken
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19:29 jcamins drojf: !!!
19:29 jcamins How so?
19:30 drojf Software error: Can't call method "new" on an undefined value at /home/mirko/koha/C4/Context.pm line 959.
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19:30 drojf when i turn ot off all is fine again
19:30 jcamins Uhhh...
19:30 * jcamins scratches his head.
19:31 jcamins Did you restart plack?
19:33 drojf it's apache, i have not tried plack yet
19:33 jcamins Hrm.
19:33 jcamins Definitely working for me.
19:33 drojf weird
19:33 jcamins You could fix it by changing that line to "return defined($context->{"queryparser"}) ? $context->{"queryparser"}->new : undef"
19:34 jcamins But that doesn't explain why there's a problem.
19:34 * jcamins thinks.
19:34 jcamins Ummm...
19:35 jcamins I know! QueryParser must be missing.
19:35 jcamins Do you have QueryParser.pm anywhere?
19:35 jcamins (locate QueryParser.pm)
19:36 drojf doing the updatedb at the moment
19:36 drojf /home/mirko/koha/OpenILS/QueryParser.pm
19:36 drojf that looks ok
19:36 jcamins It does indeed.
19:37 jcamins You are using a git install, right?
19:37 drojf yes
19:37 jcamins Hmmm...
19:37 jcamins Could you try `perl -c /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/PQF.pm`?
19:38 drojf that does not exist
19:38 jcamins It doesn't?
19:38 jcamins Oh.
19:38 jcamins No.
19:38 jcamins It doesn't.
19:39 jcamins I will find an actual path and give it to you.
19:39 drojf i have it
19:39 drojf thanks
19:39 drojf mirko@debian:~/koha$ perl -c /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/Driver/PQF.pm
19:39 drojf /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/Driver/PQF.pm syntax OK
19:39 jcamins Oh!
19:39 jcamins Of course.
19:39 jcamins You didn't rerun the installer, did you?
19:40 jcamins There's a new configuration file that koha-conf.xml needs to point to.
19:40 drojf ah. no, i think i didn't. it ran the webinstaller
19:41 jcamins I am updating bug 9239 to note that if you don't run the installer you need to edit koha-conf.xml by hand.
19:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries
19:42 jcamins Updated with instructions.
19:42 * tcohen thinks upgrade should run smooth for people using 3.10
19:43 jcamins tcohen: no, if you're using git and don't follow the upgrade instructions, it will be a problem no matter what version.
19:43 jcamins This is not an issue with standard and package installs, though.
19:43 tcohen M-kay
19:44 * jcamins reports a bug that non-updated koha-conf.xml files have issues.
19:44 bgkriegel jcamins: near bottom, but in config block?
19:44 jcamins bgkriegel: right.
19:45 drojf yay, it works \o/ and i can throw onmotivated '!' in there now \o/
19:45 drojf jcamins++
19:45 jcamins :)
19:45 drojf unmotivated even
19:46 drojf parenthesis too. nice :)
19:50 jcamins bug 9832 is awaiting your sign-off.
19:50 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9832 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , QueryParser causes software error if koha-conf.xml has not been updated
19:51 drojf will do
19:52 tcohen so, did bag get to the hackfest?
19:53 jcamins I don't think we know.
19:55 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
19:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1082: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1082/
19:58 drojf signed off
19:58 wahanui well, signed off is the queue the QA team should watch
19:58 jcamins Yay!
20:05 tcohen no coverity for us jcamins
20:05 jcamins tcohen: yeah, I saw.
20:05 tcohen will keep an eye on the subject anyway
20:08 drojf in other news, i am very happy that david hasselhoff came to berlin today to save the berlin wall ^^
20:13 rangi heh
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20:23 tcohen did he bring his super-car drojf ?
20:25 wizzyrea hehe
20:26 tcohen if he broght it, the wall is saved, FOR SURE
20:26 drojf tcohen: you mean this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jWIq8VowQY
20:26 wizzyrea we don't have a bug for the sudoc icons yet eh
20:27 jcamins wizzyrea: I posted a question on the bug that added them.
20:27 wizzyrea cool
20:27 jcamins If I don't have to revert them, I won't.
20:27 wizzyrea nc is worrysome
20:27 jcamins Yeah.
20:28 jcamins But it's possible that they're dual-licensed and we don't know... see quote 123 for why someone would dual-license icons. ;)
20:30 wizzyrea I guess
20:30 drojf tcohen: my favourite pic is this one https://twitter.com/YaotzinBer[…]824/photo/1/large but someone actually came with this http://instagram.com/p/W9rOZjn4SX/
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20:43 * cait waves
20:43 tcohen r u kidding drojf ? is that the real car???
20:45 eythian hi
20:45 drojf tcohen: i think it is the same model, but does not have the cool red lights :D
20:46 drojf hi cait and eythian
20:46 jcamins eythian: I would like to provide a 3.12-alpha package on debian.koha-community.org.
20:46 jcamins I can build the package, but what do I do with it once it's built?
20:47 cait hi drojf and jcamins and eythian and tcohen and everyone else :)
20:47 jcamins Also, liw recommended 3.12~alpha1 for the version... thoughts?
20:47 tcohen hi cait, how r our french fellows behaving?
20:47 cait have only met the international lot so far :)
20:47 cait french tomorrow
20:47 rangi my rule of thumb, if liw suggests something to do with debian i do it :-)
20:48 jcamins rangi: mine too.
20:48 eythian jcamins: this is so that people can manually install the alpha from the repo?
20:48 jcamins eythian: right.
20:48 jcamins Sticking it in squeeze-dev so that no one gets upgraded.
20:48 jcamins (automatically)
20:48 eythian though 3.12~alpha1 will superscede 3.11, which is the master build.
20:48 jcamins Hmm.
20:49 * eythian double checks version numbers, but I think that's the case
20:49 jcamins I also thought about 3.11.00.100~3.12alpha1, since 3.11.00.100 is the version of the alpha.
20:50 eythian master versions are formatted like: 3.11-1~git+20130312145747.85385f2e
20:50 jcamins Hm.
20:50 eythian I don't know off the top of my head if 3.11.00 will be less than that.
20:50 jcamins And they're automatically generated daily?
20:51 eythian no, they're semi-manually generated roughly weekly
20:51 jcamins So in other words, we could generate a regular snapshot sometime before I push anything else and we'll have an alpha package for the rest of the week, which was my goal.
20:52 eythian so, master now is what will be your 3.12 branch?
20:52 jcamins Right.
20:53 eythian because if so, that'd be very easy and I could do it right now
20:53 jcamins Yes please!
20:53 * eythian is on it
20:53 jcamins And the version numbers remain 3.11.00.xxx.
20:53 eythian yeah
20:53 eythian well, 3.11-1~git+....
20:54 jcamins I mean, the version numbers in kohaversion will remain 3.11.00.xxx until release, or at least until string freeze.
20:54 eythian oh right, yeah
20:54 eythian reminds me, need to submit packaging updates for 3.12. Might do that soon too.
20:54 jcamins Thanks.
20:56 rangi the alpha is looking pretty good, (well in the 2 hours ive had it running :))
20:57 jcamins Yay!
20:58 cait rangi: coul dyou test something for me?
20:58 cait search system preferneces: opactheme
20:58 cait and then change it and hit save
20:58 cait it should be the only pref on that page
20:58 * eythian produces 3.11-1~git+20130318095437.6100d874
21:00 rangi in master?
21:02 cait yep
21:03 rangi works for me
21:03 rangi what should happen?
21:04 cait perl error explode
21:04 jcamins It should work. :P
21:04 cait hash something in the url
21:04 jcamins Yikes!
21:04 rangi hmm i dont get that
21:05 cait maybe a 3.10 bug then
21:05 cait I had it happen when I was doing the presentations at th booth... like always
21:05 rangi lemme checkout 3.10 and try
21:05 cait oh cool thx
21:05 cait i will be right back
21:06 rangi yep it is there in 3.10.x
21:06 rangi Template process failed: file error - /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/koha-t​mpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/adm​in/preferences/HASH(0x5210998).pref: not found at /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/C4/Templates.pm line 132.
21:07 cait oh right that
21:07 wahanui right that is what I was thinking :D
21:07 rangi preferences.pl?tab=HASH(0x5210998)
21:07 cait yeah, looks not too nice
21:07 rangi somethign is not deferencing
21:07 cjh cait: badluck :(
21:07 rangi where it should
21:07 * cait nods
21:07 rangi always in a demoe
21:07 rangi -e
21:07 rangi ill have a look and fix
21:07 cait cjh: I always find bugs when I show koha to someone - it's just like that *shrug*
21:07 cait awesome rangi
21:08 eythian a) I like my new computer, it's so fast, b) new master packages uploading right now
21:09 cait :)
21:09 cait we like your new computer too
21:09 cait what did you get?
21:09 cjh cait: live demos are always risky, but on the bright side you found an important bug :D
21:09 eythian cait: 4-core i7-3770
21:09 cait can't avoid people asking for a demo :)
21:10 cait I also foudn the "duplicate message breaks fast add bug"
21:10 eythian (my old work computer was difficult to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, so they gave me a new one instead)
21:10 cait if someone is interested in fixing that in 3.10 if it isn't already
21:10 cait if you enter a fast add that brings up a duplicate message ( i already had a record with title fast add) the checkout does not happen
21:10 cait eythian: hm
21:11 eythian cait: also, I got to install the OS myself, it runs VMs fast, and it's on the real network ;)
21:11 cait eythian: you are such a meany :)
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