Time Nick Message 00:30 gmcharlt @quote random 00:30 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) 00:30 gmcharlt oldie but goodie 00:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #77: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/77/ 00:33 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 8853: Suppress links in basketgroups list 00:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9695 - Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches 00:33 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: bug 9784: add koha-shell to the koha-common man page 00:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8853 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , clicking basketgroup name in closed basketgroups reopens it 00:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9695 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches 00:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9784 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell missing from koha-common man page 00:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #281 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #281: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/281/ 01:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9695 - Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches 01:11 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: bug 9784: add koha-shell to the koha-common man page 01:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9695 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use alphabet system preference on page used to browse patrons for patron card batches 01:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9784 minor, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell missing from koha-common man page 01:33 jcamins Drat. The old attachments were not obsoleted. 02:07 jenkins_koha Starting build #1079 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 02:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_4906' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=835cb6e36bd1551ae8fd68146536d75cdfa9d2e2> / Bug 4906: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0a8496a3b8bdb0a4768f9157aab3be0e1e10fb8> / Bug 4906: Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aba4f05b809 03:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1079: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1079/ 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Add QueryParser module to Koha 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Introduce QueryParser driver for PQF 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Add syspref to enable QueryParser 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Allow the use of QueryParser for all queries 03:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 follow-up: POD and perlcritic fixes 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 follow-up: update koha-conf.xml 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: fix highlighting and merge error 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA-follow-up: quiet warnings and fix problem with limits 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: escape CGI input 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: the last QA follow-up was missing a require 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: don't fall back to kw if field is specified 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: remove stray debug code 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: better error handling 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: escape quotes in searches 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: amend error handling 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239 QA follow-up: fix overeager quote escaping 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Disable QP by default 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9239: Increment version number 03:17 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 4906: Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period 03:17 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 4906: Increment version number 03:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow fine calculation to exclude grace period 05:34 cait @wunder marseille 05:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 11.0°C (6:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 05:34 cait @wunder Konstanz 05:34 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.2°C (6:30 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 05:34 cait over 10 degrees difference... hmpf :) 05:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #78 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #78: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/78/ 06:34 jenkins_koha Mathieu Saby: Bug 4266: Hide Encumbrance and Expenditure in aqbudgets.tt 06:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4266 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , encumbrance and expenditure not used in code 06:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #282 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #282: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/282/ 07:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 4266: Hide Encumbrance and Expenditure in aqbudgets.tt 07:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7596 - System prefs editor JS contains untranslatable English string 07:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9765 - Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc 07:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4266 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , encumbrance and expenditure not used in code 07:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , System preferences editor JavaScript contains untranslatable English string 07:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9765 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc 07:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #79 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #79: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/79/ 07:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7596 - System prefs editor JS contains untranslatable English string 07:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9765 - Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc 07:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7596 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , System preferences editor JavaScript contains untranslatable English string 07:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9765 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused include file: budgetperiods-admin.inc 08:02 rangi hi wizzyrea and cait-m_ 08:02 wizzyrea whaddup 08:02 cait-m_ hello :) 08:02 cait-m_ on a train 08:02 cait-m_ the usual 08:02 rangi heh 08:02 wizzyrea :) 08:03 cait-m_ on my way to marseille! 08:06 rangi yay! 08:08 cait-m_ yay! 08:08 cait-m_ zürich soon switching trains there 08:14 cait-m_ @wunder marseille 08:14 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (9:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 08:32 * cait-m_ waves again 08:59 wizzyrea wow things coming from the US are really very slow tonight. 08:59 wizzyrea internet things, that is 09:17 rangi hi paul_p 09:22 wizzyrea we did finally upgrade our license to gpl3 right? 09:22 rangi yep 09:23 wizzyrea cool, will fix the about page which just says 2+ 09:23 wizzyrea unless that doesn't need to be done 09:23 * wizzyrea is never sure what actually matters 09:26 wizzyrea also should we be concerned that the sudoc icon set is a by-sa-nc license? 09:43 rangi hmm yes, yes we should 09:44 rangi if that is the only license, then we need to remove it 09:45 rangi stupid nc 09:48 rangi at least we havent done a release with them yet 09:49 rangi jcamins: something we need to sort out before 3.12 released http://www.abes.fr/Sudoc/Boite-a-outils-Sudoc-public/Les-icones-Sudoc 09:50 rangi right bed time 09:51 wizzyrea gnite :) 10:21 cait-m_ @wunder marseille 10:21 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (11:00 AM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 10:22 cait-m_ hm 11:42 cait-m_ @wunder geneve 11:42 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in GRAND-SACONNEX, Switzerland is 5.3°C (12:36 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 11:43 cait-m_ @wunder konstanz 11:43 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.9°C (12:40 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 11:43 cait-m_ @wunder marseille 11:43 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (12:30 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 11:46 jcamins Blergh. 11:48 cait-m_ huh? 11:48 jcamins Sudoc icons are licensed CC-BY-NC-SA. 13:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Correct order of updatedatabase entries <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2e0082af05fa3646911075d0f2cbeee75954a4a> 13:31 * cait-m_ waves from the train again 13:31 cait-m_ @wunder marseille 13:31 huginn cait-m_: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (2:00 PM CET on March 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 13:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #1080 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 17 hr ago) 13:42 * jcamins wonders if saying "liw" three times will summon the master Debian packager. 13:43 liw why would say my name summon eythian? 13:48 jcamins I was thinking of you. :P 13:49 jcamins Sorry for the pause, I was walking about the apartment cogitating on version numbers. 13:49 jcamins I want to prepare a 3.12-alpha release, with packages. 13:49 jcamins The packages will naturally go in the squeeze-dev repo. 13:50 jcamins What I can't figure out is how to version them so that they are considered older than the 3.12.0 release. 13:50 jcamins (by apt) 13:52 jcamins 3.12 will be released as 3.12.00-1. 13:53 jcamins I'm thinking maybe the thing to do is version it 3.11.00.100~3.12alpha-1. 13:53 jcamins Does that make sense? 13:54 tcohen its me or rangi is trying to hurry things to leave as RMaint? 13:54 tcohen jcamins, I like the latter 13:56 jcamins tcohen: everyone is very ready for the 3.12 release cycle to be over, I think. 13:57 jcamins tcohen: the problem is making the versions work with Debian's package numbering checker thing. 13:57 jcamins So that entire thing would be the version number. 13:57 tcohen yes, that's whyi like the second one, it resembles how alpha and beta KDE's releases are spreaded 13:58 jcamins Oh, excellent! 13:58 jcamins That's perfect. :) 14:03 jcamins Let's see how many times I can roll a tarball today, shall we? 14:04 tcohen heh 14:05 jcamins (hint: many, many, many times) 14:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.12-alpha release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6100d8745c3550e5e99fc2c909db31d20d12461b> / Add release notes for 3.12-alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6b8a4d4a9061a993cee51a6037ae6cfb0307471> 14:10 jcamins Oh, good news: I didn't push the tag yet so I can try again if I made a mistake. 14:13 jcamins And I'm pretty sure I did. 14:14 jcamins Wait, no, I did push it, and I did make a mistake. 14:14 jcamins Oh well. 14:16 * jcamins decides to ignore it. 14:30 jcamins Does Marseille have an 's' at the end? 14:30 jcamins No, right? 14:32 jcamins Does anyone know how many people will be in Marseille? 14:45 liw jcamins, I'd do 3.12~alpha-1-1 for the Debian package number, actually 14:45 jcamins liw: but will that file before 3.12.00? 14:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1080: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1080/ 14:46 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Correct order of updatedatabase entries 14:47 liw jcamins, you try it like this: if dpkg --compare-versions 3.12~alpha-1-1 lt 3.12.00; then echo less than; else echo greater than; fi 14:47 jcamins Cool! 14:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #1081 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 18 hr ago) 14:47 jcamins Thanks. 14:47 liw jcamins, basically, in Debian, ~ (tilde) sorts as less than anything else (including dot and empty string) 14:48 jcamins That --compare-versions flag is great to know about. 15:07 jcamins @later tell eythian Ping me when you're around, please. I want to upload a new package to squeeze-dev. 15:07 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 15:13 tcohen #koha, what do u think of signing Koha for static analysis by Coverity? 15:14 tcohen several FOSS projects like Linux, Firefox, LibreOffice use that service 15:14 jcamins I think it would be difficult to convince anyone to pay for it. 15:15 tcohen its free for Open Source projects 15:15 Dyrcona tcohen: I have no opinion, but would you mind supplying a URL for reference? 15:15 tcohen Commercial site: http://www.coverity.com/ 15:15 Dyrcona tcohen: ty 15:15 jcamins Where do you get that, tcohen? 15:15 * Dyrcona is lazy. ;) 15:15 tcohen Coverity Scan (for FOSS code) http://scan.coverity.com/ 15:15 jcamins I see only "request a free trial." 15:16 jcamins Ah. 15:16 jcamins I spoke to quickly. 15:16 tcohen np jcamins 15:16 jcamins *too 15:16 jcamins I think it would be a good idea. 15:16 * Dyrcona is trying to figure out how to add dual license headers to source files: GPLv2 and MPL 2.0. 15:17 tcohen jcamins, I still didn't figure it out how to test for persistence-related problems, and was digging around for this kind of tools 15:18 jcamins Dyrcona: should I ask why you'd want to? 15:19 Dyrcona Yeah. I'm copying some MPL 2.0 code into a larger work covered by the GPL v2. 15:19 Dyrcona MPL 2.0 allows that, as long as the originally MPL'd code is effectively dual-licensed. 15:20 Dyrcona So the person who receives the code has the option of GPL or MPL for the specific code in question. 15:22 jcamins Ah. 15:22 tcohen jcamins, hsuold i try to register? 15:22 tcohen maybe I'd better ask at koha-devel first 15:22 jcamins tcohen: I'd ask on the mailing list first. 15:23 jcamins Do they do Perl projects, though? 15:23 jcamins Well, I think 3.12-alpha is thoroughly released. 15:23 tcohen i should ask 15:32 jcamins tcohen++ 15:50 tcohen #koha, if I was to propose a major source reorganization (a.k.a. sanitizing the source structure), should I start a RFC wiki first? 15:53 tcohen jcamins++ for the marketing campaign to get more signers 15:54 jcamins tcohen: RFCs are always a good idea, but better to do things gradually, I think. 15:54 jcamins (and submit patches that do things in very small chunks) 15:54 tcohen yes, of course 15:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1081: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1081/ 15:55 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add release notes for 3.12-alpha 15:55 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Increment version for 3.12-alpha release 15:55 tcohen but I wouldn't do that if there was no consensus about how to achieve it 15:55 jcamins There will never be much in the way of consensus. 15:56 jcamins Person A will insist that we must use Moose for EVERYTHING. 15:56 jcamins Person B will insist that we should just use Dancer. 15:56 jcamins Person C mojolicious. 15:56 jcamins Person D Catalyst. 15:56 jcamins Etc. 15:57 tcohen I just want to propose something like: create a src/lib dir to put C4 and Koha in 15:57 tcohen src/opac src/intranet 15:58 jcamins Oh. 15:58 tcohen that will make things like Makefiles and install scripts easier to maintain 15:58 tcohen of course I will mimic Dancer way of organizing stuf :-P :-P 15:59 jcamins Hehe. 16:12 tcohen any thoughts about sphinx? 16:14 jcamins tcohen: none. 16:14 cait th eone with the riddles? :P 16:14 * cait waves from a hotel in marseille!! 16:14 cait no more trains today, so glad 16:14 jcamins Yay! 16:15 cait so um. does someeone else remember when bag said he will arrive in marseille? :P 16:15 jcamins No. 16:15 jcamins logs? 16:15 wahanui logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 16:16 cait i tried 16:16 cait hi NateC 16:16 jcamins Ask NateC? 16:16 cait have yo uheard from bag eventually? 16:16 NateC hi cait and jcamins 16:16 cait jcamins: I am :) 16:17 NateC bag is in Paris at the hackfest me thinks 16:17 NateC i just got back from vacation 16:17 NateC so im a little out of touch myself 16:17 tcohen isn't bag logged here actually? 16:18 cait NateC: the hackfest is in marseille ;) 16:18 jcamins tcohen: yeah, but that's just bip. 16:18 cait and I am here at the hotel, wondering when they might be in :) 16:18 NateC see out of touch :) 16:18 NateC ah 16:18 NateC cant help you there unfortunately :( 16:20 cait ok 16:20 cait i left a note at the hackfest google spreadshee thingy 16:20 tcohen http://blogs.perl.org/users/michal_wojciechowski/2012/12/building-a-search-web-app-with-dancer-and-sphinx.html 16:20 jcamins How many people will be there? 16:20 cait I think around 30 16:20 cait dpavlin is here to take me for coffee 16:20 cait talk to you all later :) 16:20 jcamins Bye. 16:27 tcohen jcamins, what is moose the common factor for dancer, mojolicious, catalyst and moose itself? 16:27 tcohen s/what// 16:28 jcamins I'm not sure if mojolicious uses moose, but certainly the other three do. 16:29 jcamins Mouse would probably be a better goal for 3.14. 16:30 jcamins We're making our way toward persistence, but only slowly. 16:33 jcamins Speaking of which... 16:33 * jcamins goes looking for the nginx/Plack bug. 16:33 tcohen persistence as in ORM or DBIx::Class? 16:34 jcamins Persistence as in Plack. 16:35 libsysguy so I think that the difference between moose moo and mouse is trivial 16:35 tcohen "solve variable persistence problems that arise when running Koha under Plack" 16:35 libsysguy in terms of actual application use 16:35 tcohen Moo and Mouse are similar, and Moose is heavy? 16:35 libsysguy just use the immutable function in moose and you'll be fine 16:35 jcamins libsysguy: yeah, but in terms of overhead, mouse is a lot more practical under CGI. 16:36 libsysguy I don't know if I'd consider any of them under CGI :p 16:36 jcamins Oh, you said moo. 16:36 jcamins tcohen: right. I don't care which one. 16:36 jcamins (mouse or moo) 16:36 libsysguy moo and mouse are basically truncated versions of Moose 16:36 libsysguy which is heavy 16:37 tcohen libsysguy: would they run fine under mod_perl¡ 16:37 tcohen ? 16:37 libsysguy I'm not sure that is the right direction to take 16:37 jcamins tcohen: better to focus on Plack. 16:37 libsysguy I think to successfully run them you are going to want plack 16:37 libsysguy yeah…what jcamins said 16:37 jcamins We are closer to Plack compatibility than mod_perl compatibility. 16:38 jcamins By a longshot. 16:38 tcohen moose + immutable looks fine me :-P 16:38 libsysguy there are going to be several iterations of refactors before any of them are going to work 16:39 * libsysguy knows since he has been pushing for this for…a year? 16:39 libsysguy is a year about right jcamins? 16:39 jcamins Something like that. 16:40 libsysguy tcohen I pushed for catalyst 16:40 libsysguy but I just didn't have the time to do it myself 16:40 libsysguy and without a successful proof of concept I didn't make it far with discussion alone :p 16:44 libsysguy anywho thats my two cents on the subject :p 16:44 * libsysguy goes back down the hole 16:44 jcamins tcohen: pity about Coverity. 16:45 jcamins Dyrcona: Coverity supports C/C++/Java only, but EG has a fair amount of that, so it might be worth looking into. 17:08 Dyrcona jcamins: Thanks. I'll make a note of that. 17:42 * jcamins waves vigorously to druthb. 17:43 * druthb waves back, slightly less-vigorously. 17:44 druthb @later tell wizzyrea "oh, he's good on longer trips," she says, and ho ho ho...Pixel meowed worriedly pretty-much nonstop for eighteen hours. 17:44 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. 17:44 jcamins lol 17:44 druthb Cap was givin' him the stink eye, like "will you PUH-LEASE STFU?" :P 17:44 jcamins lol 17:47 druthb They seem to be adapting well, though. They've discovered how to perch in my bedroom window, which has a decent-ish view of the pool (and our AC unit, which makes interesting noises) 17:48 jcamins If they're anything like Myshkin, they can perch on *anything* if it gives them a view of birds. 17:48 druthb oh, wait...I'm sorry...jcamins, didn't you say yesterday that it was *snowing* there? We've got folks laying out by the pool in eeety-bitty things. 17:48 druthb tsk. 17:48 * druthb thinks about jcamins' snow, and is not-jelly. 17:48 jcamins Hehe. 17:48 jcamins It's not snowing today, at least. 18:45 rangi jcamins++ #good newsletter and 3.12-alpha 18:46 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now 18:46 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 18:46 jcamins Thanks. 18:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #1082 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1078 22 hr ago) 18:50 libsysguy_afk druthb? 18:50 wahanui druthb is our translation manager for 3.12 18:50 rangi @later tell tcohen ive already started that https://gitorious.org/koha/mainline/commits/tidy_intranet 18:50 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 18:50 druthb libsysguy? 18:50 wahanui libsysguy is koha's hottest developer or partying with Swedes on his deck 18:51 libsysguy_afk druthb you made it?!?! 18:51 libsysguy_afk welcome to the H! 18:51 druthb No. I am a well-defined figment of your imagination. 18:51 jcamins Is that well-defined in the Haskell or PHP sense? 18:51 druthb :P 18:51 druthb "Yes." 18:51 jcamins PHP, then. 18:52 libsysguy_afk I prefer to think of it as a well defined set in mathematics 19:10 rangi right time to take the kids to school then off to work 19:29 drojf jcamins: i just updated master. when i turn on UseQueryParser my search is broken 19:29 jcamins drojf: !!! 19:29 jcamins How so? 19:30 drojf Software error: Can't call method "new" on an undefined value at /home/mirko/koha/C4/Context.pm line 959. 19:30 drojf when i turn ot off all is fine again 19:30 jcamins Uhhh... 19:30 * jcamins scratches his head. 19:31 jcamins Did you restart plack? 19:33 drojf it's apache, i have not tried plack yet 19:33 jcamins Hrm. 19:33 jcamins Definitely working for me. 19:33 drojf weird 19:33 jcamins You could fix it by changing that line to "return defined($context->{"queryparser"}) ? $context->{"queryparser"}->new : undef" 19:34 jcamins But that doesn't explain why there's a problem. 19:34 * jcamins thinks. 19:34 jcamins Ummm... 19:35 jcamins I know! QueryParser must be missing. 19:35 jcamins Do you have QueryParser.pm anywhere? 19:35 jcamins (locate QueryParser.pm) 19:36 drojf doing the updatedb at the moment 19:36 drojf /home/mirko/koha/OpenILS/QueryParser.pm 19:36 drojf that looks ok 19:36 jcamins It does indeed. 19:37 jcamins You are using a git install, right? 19:37 drojf yes 19:37 jcamins Hmmm... 19:37 jcamins Could you try `perl -c /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/PQF.pm`? 19:38 drojf that does not exist 19:38 jcamins It doesn't? 19:38 jcamins Oh. 19:38 jcamins No. 19:38 jcamins It doesn't. 19:39 jcamins I will find an actual path and give it to you. 19:39 drojf i have it 19:39 drojf thanks 19:39 drojf mirko@debian:~/koha$ perl -c /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/Driver/PQF.pm 19:39 drojf /home/mirko/koha/Koha/QueryParser/Driver/PQF.pm syntax OK 19:39 jcamins Oh! 19:39 jcamins Of course. 19:39 jcamins You didn't rerun the installer, did you? 19:40 jcamins There's a new configuration file that koha-conf.xml needs to point to. 19:40 drojf ah. no, i think i didn't. it ran the webinstaller 19:41 jcamins I am updating bug 9239 to note that if you don't run the installer you need to edit koha-conf.xml by hand. 19:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries 19:42 jcamins Updated with instructions. 19:42 * tcohen thinks upgrade should run smooth for people using 3.10 19:43 jcamins tcohen: no, if you're using git and don't follow the upgrade instructions, it will be a problem no matter what version. 19:43 jcamins This is not an issue with standard and package installs, though. 19:43 tcohen M-kay 19:44 * jcamins reports a bug that non-updated koha-conf.xml files have issues. 19:44 bgkriegel jcamins: near bottom, but in config block? 19:44 jcamins bgkriegel: right. 19:45 drojf yay, it works \o/ and i can throw onmotivated '!' in there now \o/ 19:45 drojf jcamins++ 19:45 jcamins :) 19:45 drojf unmotivated even 19:46 drojf parenthesis too. nice :) 19:50 jcamins bug 9832 is awaiting your sign-off. 19:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9832 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , QueryParser causes software error if koha-conf.xml has not been updated 19:51 drojf will do 19:52 tcohen so, did bag get to the hackfest? 19:53 jcamins I don't think we know. 19:55 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 19:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1082: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1082/ 19:58 drojf signed off 19:58 wahanui well, signed off is the queue the QA team should watch 19:58 jcamins Yay! 20:05 tcohen no coverity for us jcamins 20:05 jcamins tcohen: yeah, I saw. 20:05 tcohen will keep an eye on the subject anyway 20:08 drojf in other news, i am very happy that david hasselhoff came to berlin today to save the berlin wall ^^ 20:13 rangi heh 20:23 tcohen did he bring his super-car drojf ? 20:25 wizzyrea hehe 20:26 tcohen if he broght it, the wall is saved, FOR SURE 20:26 drojf tcohen: you mean this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jWIq8VowQY 20:26 wizzyrea we don't have a bug for the sudoc icons yet eh 20:27 jcamins wizzyrea: I posted a question on the bug that added them. 20:27 wizzyrea cool 20:27 jcamins If I don't have to revert them, I won't. 20:27 wizzyrea nc is worrysome 20:27 jcamins Yeah. 20:28 jcamins But it's possible that they're dual-licensed and we don't know... see quote 123 for why someone would dual-license icons. ;) 20:30 wizzyrea I guess 20:30 drojf tcohen: my favourite pic is this one https://twitter.com/YaotzinBerlin/status/313287516855885824/photo/1/large but someone actually came with this http://instagram.com/p/W9rOZjn4SX/ 20:43 * cait waves 20:43 tcohen r u kidding drojf ? is that the real car??? 20:45 eythian hi 20:45 drojf tcohen: i think it is the same model, but does not have the cool red lights :D 20:46 drojf hi cait and eythian 20:46 jcamins eythian: I would like to provide a 3.12-alpha package on debian.koha-community.org. 20:46 jcamins I can build the package, but what do I do with it once it's built? 20:47 cait hi drojf and jcamins and eythian and tcohen and everyone else :) 20:47 jcamins Also, liw recommended 3.12~alpha1 for the version... thoughts? 20:47 tcohen hi cait, how r our french fellows behaving? 20:47 cait have only met the international lot so far :) 20:47 cait french tomorrow 20:47 rangi my rule of thumb, if liw suggests something to do with debian i do it :-) 20:48 jcamins rangi: mine too. 20:48 eythian jcamins: this is so that people can manually install the alpha from the repo? 20:48 jcamins eythian: right. 20:48 jcamins Sticking it in squeeze-dev so that no one gets upgraded. 20:48 jcamins (automatically) 20:48 eythian though 3.12~alpha1 will superscede 3.11, which is the master build. 20:48 jcamins Hmm. 20:49 * eythian double checks version numbers, but I think that's the case 20:49 jcamins I also thought about 3.11.00.100~3.12alpha1, since 3.11.00.100 is the version of the alpha. 20:50 eythian master versions are formatted like: 3.11-1~git+20130312145747.85385f2e 20:50 jcamins Hm. 20:50 eythian I don't know off the top of my head if 3.11.00 will be less than that. 20:50 jcamins And they're automatically generated daily? 20:51 eythian no, they're semi-manually generated roughly weekly 20:51 jcamins So in other words, we could generate a regular snapshot sometime before I push anything else and we'll have an alpha package for the rest of the week, which was my goal. 20:52 eythian so, master now is what will be your 3.12 branch? 20:52 jcamins Right. 20:53 eythian because if so, that'd be very easy and I could do it right now 20:53 jcamins Yes please! 20:53 * eythian is on it 20:53 jcamins And the version numbers remain 3.11.00.xxx. 20:53 eythian yeah 20:53 eythian well, 3.11-1~git+.... 20:54 jcamins I mean, the version numbers in kohaversion will remain 3.11.00.xxx until release, or at least until string freeze. 20:54 eythian oh right, yeah 20:54 eythian reminds me, need to submit packaging updates for 3.12. Might do that soon too. 20:54 jcamins Thanks. 20:56 rangi the alpha is looking pretty good, (well in the 2 hours ive had it running :)) 20:57 jcamins Yay! 20:58 cait rangi: coul dyou test something for me? 20:58 cait search system preferneces: opactheme 20:58 cait and then change it and hit save 20:58 cait it should be the only pref on that page 20:58 * eythian produces 3.11-1~git+20130318095437.6100d874 21:00 rangi in master? 21:02 cait yep 21:03 rangi works for me 21:03 rangi what should happen? 21:04 cait perl error explode 21:04 jcamins It should work. :P 21:04 cait hash something in the url 21:04 jcamins Yikes! 21:04 rangi hmm i dont get that 21:05 cait maybe a 3.10 bug then 21:05 cait I had it happen when I was doing the presentations at th booth... like always 21:05 rangi lemme checkout 3.10 and try 21:05 cait oh cool thx 21:05 cait i will be right back 21:06 rangi yep it is there in 3.10.x 21:06 rangi Template process failed: file error - /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/HASH(0x5210998).pref: not found at /home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/C4/Templates.pm line 132. 21:07 cait oh right that 21:07 wahanui right that is what I was thinking :D 21:07 rangi preferences.pl?tab=HASH(0x5210998) 21:07 cait yeah, looks not too nice 21:07 rangi somethign is not deferencing 21:07 cjh cait: badluck :( 21:07 rangi where it should 21:07 * cait nods 21:07 rangi always in a demoe 21:07 rangi -e 21:07 rangi ill have a look and fix 21:07 cait cjh: I always find bugs when I show koha to someone - it's just like that *shrug* 21:07 cait awesome rangi 21:08 eythian a) I like my new computer, it's so fast, b) new master packages uploading right now 21:09 cait :) 21:09 cait we like your new computer too 21:09 cait what did you get? 21:09 cjh cait: live demos are always risky, but on the bright side you found an important bug :D 21:09 eythian cait: 4-core i7-3770 21:09 cait can't avoid people asking for a demo :) 21:10 cait I also foudn the "duplicate message breaks fast add bug" 21:10 eythian (my old work computer was difficult to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, so they gave me a new one instead) 21:10 cait if someone is interested in fixing that in 3.10 if it isn't already 21:10 cait if you enter a fast add that brings up a duplicate message ( i already had a record with title fast add) the checkout does not happen 21:10 cait eythian: hm 21:11 eythian cait: also, I got to install the OS myself, it runs VMs fast, and it's on the real network ;) 21:11 cait eythian: you are such a meany :) 23:58 gmcharlt @quote random 23:58 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" 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