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00:13 |
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bag |
welcome back then |
00:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #61: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/61/ |
00:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9432: Plack changes for acqui/addorderiso2409.pl |
00:17 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9432 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , acqui/addorderiso2409.pl is not Plack-friendly |
00:17 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #268 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
00:42 |
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rangi |
hmmmm |
00:43 |
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cait |
wasn't it you doing the rda framework? |
00:44 |
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rangi |
well spacelibrarian prompted me, but yep http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]-support-in-koha/ |
00:44 |
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jcamins |
cait: yeah, I still can't believe rangi wasted his time on it. :P |
00:44 |
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jcamins |
Okay, yes I can. |
00:44 |
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jcamins |
@quote get 123 |
00:44 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
00:44 |
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jcamins |
^^ all is explained |
00:44 |
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rangi |
:) |
00:45 |
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cait |
hm, they shoudl give you credit |
00:45 |
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rangi |
salright, i know :) |
00:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #268: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/268/ |
00:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 9546 : Updating make manifest tardist |
00:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 7507 - Audience Subtype limit on OPAC Advanced Search does not have all Audiences |
00:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 9552 - BIB1 Relation "Greater Than" Attribute Not Mapped Properly in CCL.Properties |
00:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 9493: confirmations for user holds in opac are not translatable |
00:55 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9546 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , MANIFEST.SKIP breaking regexp when running make manifest tardist |
00:55 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7507 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Audience Subtype limit on Advanced Search does not have all Audiences |
00:55 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9552 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , BIB1 Relation "Greater Than" Attribute Not Mapped Properly in CCL.Properties |
00:55 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9493 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , confirmations for user holds in opac are not translatable |
00:55 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #62 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
01:09 |
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01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #62: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/62/ |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9421: tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 9546 : Updating make manifest tardist |
01:36 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9421 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 7507 - Audience Subtype limit on OPAC Advanced Search does not have all Audiences |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 9552 - BIB1 Relation "Greater Than" Attribute Not Mapped Properly in CCL.Properties |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 9493: confirmations for user holds in opac are not translatable |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 9143 - changelog and build script updates |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* liz: Bug 9499 - --itemscontent= option is undocumented in advanced-notice.pl cronjob + default date should be date_due, not issuedate |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9451: Quiet warnings and Plackify borrower_stats.pl |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* sophie.meynieux: Bug 9320 Pending reserves report should not show waiting items |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Follow up fixing the case of SQL |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9546 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , MANIFEST.SKIP breaking regexp when running make manifest tardist |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7507 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Audience Subtype limit on Advanced Search does not have all Audiences |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
* adrien.saurat: Bug 9329: Wrong message for already expired cards |
01:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #269 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9552 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , BIB1 Relation "Greater Than" Attribute Not Mapped Properly in CCL.Properties |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9493 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , confirmations for user holds in opac are not translatable |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Package related updates for master |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9499 trivial, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , --itemscontent= option is undocumented in advanced-notice.pl cronjob + default date should be date_due, not issuedate |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9451 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , borrower_stats.pl gives off warnings and is not Plack-compatible |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9320 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Pending reserves is showing reserves already waiting |
01:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9329 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Wrong message for already expired cards |
01:43 |
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01:51 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #270 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
02:30 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #270: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/270/ |
02:30 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Liz Rea: Bug 9499 - --itemscontent= option is undocumented in advanced-notice.pl cronjob + default date should be date_due, not issuedate |
02:30 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9320 Pending reserves report should not show waiting items |
02:30 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Follow up fixing the case of SQL |
02:30 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Adrien Saurat: Bug 9329: Wrong message for already expired cards |
02:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9499 trivial, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , --itemscontent= option is undocumented in advanced-notice.pl cronjob + default date should be date_due, not issuedate |
02:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9320 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Pending reserves is showing reserves already waiting |
02:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9329 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Wrong message for already expired cards |
02:31 |
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02:43 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9392' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9dd051b98dc6d0b1> / Bug 9392: confirmation does not appear for negative notforloan items issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e44013307933cf6e9> |
02:51 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1044 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1044: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1044/ |
03:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9392: confirmation does not appear for negative notforloan items issues |
03:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9392 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , confirmation does not appear for negative notforloan items issues |
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08:49 |
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rangi |
heh |
08:49 |
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rangi |
way to repost the spam |
10:00 |
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drojf |
heh. now to get someone to complain about reposting the spam, with a full quote. spammer's heaven |
10:02 |
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rangi |
heh |
10:31 |
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10:32 |
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vkm |
koha 3.8.9 does not display and calculate fines on holidays in patron account? |
10:34 |
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vkm |
will it count all fines and display on next working day? including fines of hildays as i have stted direct fines in system preference |
10:36 |
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vkm |
first time i have seen this so on monday what woll have i do not know today library is closed but from remote staff client i have seen it display fines up to previous day only |
10:37 |
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vkm |
so pls help is there any problem in cron job or it is usual during holiday? |
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16:32 |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: I thought of something fun you could do! |
16:32 |
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jcamins_away |
@query nginx |
16:32 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add Nginx install options with plack |
16:32 |
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jcamins_away |
^^ doesn't that patch look fun?!? |
16:42 |
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drojf |
that looks like amazing amusement |
16:42 |
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drojf |
how is the weather situation jcamins? |
16:42 |
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jcamins |
Kind of pitiful, really. |
16:42 |
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jcamins |
We don't have more than a foot of snow, and it's bright and sunny. |
16:43 |
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drojf |
i'm sure you're disappointed ;) |
16:43 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
16:58 |
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jcamins |
Heh. I just read an assertion that RDA is intended to make bibliographic records more understandable to computers. |
16:58 |
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jcamins |
The elimination of abbreviations is the opposite of that. |
16:59 |
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jcamins |
Now instead of needing to recognize "p." and "S." as meaning "pages," a system that wants to make use of that information needs to know the word for "pages" in *every single European language*. |
17:00 |
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jcamins |
And that's an optimistic outcome, since that assumes that no research library would ever want to use that data. |
17:02 |
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drojf |
sounds great. professionals at work |
17:02 |
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jcamins |
drojf: it was an assertion by a librarian who has already observed that RDA is worse for people. |
17:03 |
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drojf |
they have to change stuff. how would they justify the license fees otherwise? |
17:03 |
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drojf |
:) |
17:03 |
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jcamins |
Yeah... that's why I'm giving up MARC for Lent. |
17:04 |
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drojf |
and we could sell different flavours of koha. one for each language and its abbreviations. and a multilanguage version for 5x the price |
17:04 |
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jcamins |
drojf: nice! |
17:05 |
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jcamins |
I guess the one problem with my proposed alternative to MARC is that the data still isn't translatable. |
17:07 |
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drojf |
lousy people, speaking different languages |
17:07 |
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drojf |
we could just agree on one |
17:09 |
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drojf |
i'm not sure if it was a great idea to update a vm to wheezy to test that nginx/plack patch |
17:09 |
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jcamins |
I guess it would be easy enough to have multiple languages. |
17:09 |
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drojf |
that takes forever |
17:09 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
17:09 |
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jcamins |
Probably not. |
17:10 |
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drojf |
i thought it would be easier than going through the manual starman installation pain |
17:10 |
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jcamins |
One of the changes I insisted on was eliminating the starman requirement. |
17:10 |
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jcamins |
If starman's available, it'll use it, otherwise it'll just use Plack. |
17:11 |
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drojf |
yes it won't be usable for normal people on squeeze otherwise |
17:11 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
17:12 |
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drojf |
i just got asked whether i would like to keep my old sudoers file or overwrite it. that's a funny question |
17:12 |
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jcamins |
That seems... problematic. |
17:12 |
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drojf |
indeed |
17:18 |
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17:18 |
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drojf |
aaand it's broken |
17:18 |
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jcamins |
The patch is, or the system? |
17:18 |
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drojf |
the system |
17:18 |
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wahanui |
the system is probably running nothing else... |
17:19 |
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jcamins |
That's unfortunate. |
17:19 |
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jcamins |
Very unfortunate, even. |
17:22 |
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drojf |
i think it was just a path weirdness. looks like it continues the upgrade |
17:23 |
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drojf |
i had to enter a mysql password. that is odd. some things are pretty strange |
17:55 |
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drojf |
45 minutes to upgrade, but now it took only a few seconds to install starman ;) |
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17:58 |
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drojf |
fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm). |
17:58 |
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drojf |
Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. |
17:58 |
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drojf |
Cannot fall back to three-way merge. |
17:58 |
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drojf |
that does not sound right |
18:06 |
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jcamins |
No it doesn't. |
18:06 |
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jcamins |
Do you have an up-to-date copy of master? |
18:06 |
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drojf |
and it is not the upgrade's fault, i get the same on the other copy |
18:06 |
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drojf |
yes |
18:06 |
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jcamins |
Weird. |
18:06 |
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jcamins |
I get the same thing. |
18:09 |
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drojf |
perldependencies... looks like it has to do with removing starman |
18:12 |
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jcamins |
But starman shouldn't have been in there to begin with... |
18:13 |
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jcamins |
I think Elliott forgot to squash some patches in. |
18:14 |
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drojf |
yes that was worded badly. i don't mean it has to do with removing starman technically |
18:20 |
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drojf |
"Amazon book covers are retrieved with Amazon Product Advertising API, which means that more covers are retrieved (ISBN13)." |
18:20 |
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drojf |
what is that supposed to mean? |
18:23 |
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* jcamins |
doesn't try to understand. :P |
18:24 |
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drojf |
maybe i am more of a tinfoil hat person, but it sounds like that feature makes whoever runs that cover url caching server get paid by amazon? |
18:25 |
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jcamins |
No, I think it's just against the Terms of Service. |
18:25 |
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jcamins |
I mean, yes, that would be true, if we weren't breaking the terms of service. |
18:25 |
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jcamins |
I think. |
18:25 |
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jcamins |
But if you violate the Terms of Service, I think you just get your account suspended. |
18:26 |
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drojf |
ok that is a valid alternative lol |
18:27 |
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drojf |
i still don't see the point of that enhancement. have another outside service to help me use more outside services? |
18:27 |
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jcamins |
Simplify AJAX-y cover fallback. |
18:27 |
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jcamins |
Right now we can't handle it. |
18:30 |
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drojf |
not that i ever looked at that feature, but it does not sound too hard to ask for the cover, check if that is a graphic file at the other end and if not, try the next in the list |
18:30 |
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drojf |
there might be more magic to it though |
18:31 |
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jcamins |
Yeah... the problem is that we don't request the covers on the server. |
18:31 |
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jcamins |
And we have four different types of javascript for loading covers. |
18:31 |
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drojf |
ok that sounds like less fun |
18:31 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
18:38 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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user00 |
@seen jcamins |
18:42 |
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huginn |
user00: jcamins was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 50 seconds ago: <jcamins> Hehe. |
18:42 |
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drojf |
hehe |
18:43 |
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rambutan |
whatup? |
18:44 |
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drojf |
not much. quiet weekend business |
18:50 |
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jcamins |
rambutan: the blizzard was very anti-climactic. |
18:51 |
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rambutan |
yea, I thought I'd check in with you and see if you had electricity |
18:51 |
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jcamins |
Yup. We got less than a foot of snow, and it's bright and sunny out now. |
18:52 |
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rambutan |
seems we always have to check up on the NZ people after earthquakes and the NE US people after snowstorms. |
18:55 |
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rambutan |
ltr... |
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drojf |
fun fact: you could tag brothels in openstreetmap |
20:47 |
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drojf |
apparently there are none in berlin |
20:48 |
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drojf |
or brothel customers are not openstreetmappers |
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spiker |
hi |
23:47 |
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spiker |
I'm trying to help a no-profit here where I live that has an old installation of koha (3.00, put up by a volunteer years ago that has now left) |
23:47 |
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spiker |
I've got them up on a new server (ubuntu LTS 12.04) and got koha running from packages |
23:48 |
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spiker |
what I'm trying to figure out now is what to do with the data |
23:48 |
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jcamins |
spiker: the channel's pretty quiet now, and I'm working on other things, but if I can help, I will. :) |
23:48 |
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jcamins |
Oh, you did all the parts that require lots of explanations already. |
23:48 |
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jcamins |
Export the MySQL database from the old 3.0 server. |
23:48 |
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jcamins |
Copy it to the new server. |
23:48 |
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spiker |
I have a dump from the old db but I'm expecting things to have changed to a degree and by the look of things it won;t cleanly import, will it? |
23:48 |
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jcamins |
Load that data into the 3.10 (or 3.8?) DB. |
23:49 |
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spiker |
I've taken a look at the schema on the new db and it seems different |
23:49 |
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spiker |
I'm on 3.10 |
23:49 |
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jcamins |
Run: `sudo koha-upgrade-schema [instancename] && sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 [instancename]` |
23:50 |
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jcamins |
You want to import the 3.0 database into a _completely_ empty database. |
23:50 |
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jcamins |
Then those two commands will take care of all the schema changes. |
23:50 |
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spiker |
when you say completely you mean without even doing the web install part? |
23:50 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
23:50 |
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spiker |
that seems to create some tables |
23:50 |
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spiker |
ah, ok |
23:50 |
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spiker |
then I guess I'll nuke the db |
23:50 |
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spiker |
thanks, trying that |
23:50 |
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jcamins |
And those two commands will take a *long* time. |
23:50 |
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jcamins |
Probably overnight. |
23:51 |
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spiker |
hurray for migration commands \o/ |
23:51 |
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jcamins |
You'll get a bunch of error messages, which are worth saving for review, but nothing to worry about. |
23:51 |
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spiker |
ok, cool, I'll get it going in a screen and check in again later |
23:51 |
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spiker |
thanks for your help, appreciate it |
23:51 |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. |
23:52 |
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jcamins |
I love it when people come with easy questions. |
23:52 |
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spiker |
heh |
23:53 |
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spiker |
might be worth to edit http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages to point out that those migrations steps will work in a case like this |
23:53 |
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spiker |
when I read the section http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rade_Instructions it seems to suggest it would only apply to packaged based installations |
23:53 |
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spiker |
and it misses the comment you made about having a completely empty db |
23:54 |
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spiker |
I'll see if I can register and maybe add a few comments once I've got this to work |
23:54 |
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spiker |
thanks again |
23:54 |
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jcamins |
Right, when upgrading a package install, you probably won't be going through the entire installation process because there's a restore script. |
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spiker |
I see |
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jcamins |
We definitely need to note that you can upgrade from any type of Koha installation. |
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spiker |
maybe I'll just put up a little blog post for anybody that's in my same situation, going from 3.00 to 3.10 felt like it was gonna be a huge deal as a lot seemed to have changed (I'm completely new to koha which obviously doesn't help :) ) |
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spiker |
just trying to help the folks here as I get some spare time over the weekend |
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jcamins |
Just make sure you point to the wiki as the canonical source of information, so if things change in a few years, people don't try and follow your blog post to disastrous results. :) |
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jcamins |
What type of non-profit is it? |
23:57 |
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spiker |
and btw, I'll extend a thank you from them, they've been using koha for a long time and their 2 schools run on it, without it'd been hard I guess (I just came around recently) |
23:57 |
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spiker |
buddhist association, they have 2 small schools for children and a library (small stuff tho) |
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spiker |
in CA |
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jcamins |
Awesome! |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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spiker |
will make sure to add the pointer, thanks for the remainder |
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jcamins |
eythian: I like wahanui's response to "Awesome"... well done. |