IRC log for #koha, 2013-02-10

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00:12 spiker another quick question, with access to the old server, is it possible to tell what MARC format they used?
00:13 jcamins Oh, that's _VERY_ important.
00:13 spiker when doing the web installation part it asked me marc21 or unimarc and I didn't know which one and the librarian isn't around
00:13 jcamins If you have a different MARC format set up, the new database will get messed up.
00:13 jcamins MARC21, since you're in the US.
00:13 spiker ok, thanks, then I picked the right one
00:13 jcamins But, yeah, you can also look at the "marcflavour" system preference.
00:13 spiker ok, will double check, thank you
00:14 spiker going to make a coffee as the script suggested ;)
00:14 spiker bbl
00:14 jcamins You could probably grind the coffee beans by hand, too.
01:33 spiker mmmh, it completed (about 1hr run), but it doesn't seem to have been successful
01:34 spiker the updates and rebuild seem to have been successful
01:34 spiker 4967 records processed
01:35 spiker no major errors, just a couple things on stuff like 'privacy' column being duplicated
01:35 spiker but nothing that stands out as horribly broken
01:35 spiker but when I search from the web interface I find nothing while on the old server for the same keyword I get a bunch of results
01:37 jcamins_away Right, I forgot to tell you the last command.
01:38 jcamins_away Sorry.
01:38 jcamins_away I've been working on an index for 9 hours.
01:38 jcamins_away Now run `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f [instancename]`
01:41 spiker ah, thanks
01:42 spiker and sorry, my bad, it's actually noted in the upgrade section
01:45 spiker ok, it completed. same deal tho
01:46 spiker “kw,wrdl: am ” returned 20 results. <-- old one (just using random kw)
01:46 spiker "No results found!" <-- new one
01:47 jcamins_away Run `sudo service koha-common restart`
01:47 * jcamins_away needs some dinner now.
01:48 jcamins_away If you come back during the week, there tend to be a lot more people around.
01:48 spiker win!
01:48 spiker that was it
01:48 jcamins_away Yay!
01:48 spiker I need dinner too
01:48 spiker thanks again and enjoy your weekend!
01:48 jcamins_away You're welcome.
01:49 spiker and sorry, I've nbever used koha so I wasn't aware that daemon was supposed to be running
01:49 spiker anyway, dinner time
01:49 spiker have a good one
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02:39 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
02:42 rangi jcamins_away: you about?
02:56 jcamins_away Yeah, what's up?
02:56 rangi have you used mozilla persona? i have it going with koha now
02:57 jcamins_away I have not.
02:57 jcamins_away Oh, wow.
02:57 jcamins_away That's awesome!
03:01 rangi its just running on my laptop so is probably slow
03:01 jcamins_away login failure[object Object]
03:01 rangi hmm
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04:40 spiker just to make sure, the user defined in the <config> branch in /etc/koha/sites/$instance/koha-conf.xml is both for the database and the intra admin interface, correct?
04:41 spiker is it referenced anywhere else? because on the new install I've done it's been autogenerated to koha_instance, but in the old installation they had it was kohaadmin and I was trying to reset it back to that so that they don't have to change anything
04:43 spiker also I don't have the librarian here with me, but someone told me there were users on the system and I was trying to make sure they still existed, but I can't find anything like a "user" table in the db to figure out what they were
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14:59 * cait waves
15:03 * jcamins_away waves back.
15:04 jcamins cait: since you're here, could you explain bug 9380?
15:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9380 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Passed QA , branch not recording right on writeoff
15:04 jcamins I don't understand where there's a problem.
15:04 cait right let me take a look
15:04 cait internet might be bad tho - on a trian again
15:04 jcamins You should have it in git already. :)
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15:05 * cait1 is on a train again...
15:05 cait1 did you check action_logs
15:05 * jcamins could tell. :P
15:05 cait1 ?
15:05 jcamins I didn't even know where to look.
15:05 cait1 fineslog needs to be turned on
15:05 jcamins So that meant action_logs?
15:05 cait1 then it should record that you waive fines with the branch the fine is waived at
15:05 cait1 I checked the database table, but I think you could also use the log viewer in staff
15:05 jcamins Got it.
15:05 jcamins Thanks.
15:06 cait1 cool
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15:30 alohabot Hi mib_siz4c7, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
15:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #1045 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9380' into 3.12-master <[…]daf69b5fc597ddb2a> / Bug 9380 - branch not recording right on writeoff <[…]b93f3331617498d8b>
15:40 mib_siz4c7 hi all
15:41 cait1 hi mib_siz4c7
15:41 mib_siz4c7 i just discovered koha, and am going to try installing it on ubuntu precise
15:42 mib_siz4c7 i'm following these instructions:[…]ubuntu_-_packages
15:42 mib_siz4c7 my question is, should i go for the latest stable release (3.10.x) or should i use 3.8.x?
15:43 cait1 hm
15:43 cait1 not quite easy to answre :)
15:44 cait1 i think if you want to learn about Koha I would use the latest release
15:44 cait1 if you plan to go into production like next week I would maybe pick 3.8.x
15:44 mib_siz4c7 i'm just experimenting with koha right now, i'm not setting up a production server :)
15:44 cait1 both are stable, it's just that 3.10 is not out as long and there is always something here and there
15:45 cait1 mib_siz4c7: out of interest :) where are you from?
15:45 mib_siz4c7 i'm from india
15:45 cait1 and using the packages is def a good way to get started
15:45 cait1 ah, I am from Germany
15:46 mib_siz4c7 nice to make your acquaintance :)
15:47 mib_siz4c7 i think i'll try the 3.10.2 version out then
15:47 cait1 :)
15:48 cait1 3.10 has some nice featurs like a alternative design for the opac
15:49 mib_siz4c7 cool
15:51 mib_siz4c7 btw, i'm a total n00b at this, so please help me with a couple other things
15:52 mib_siz4c7 is there a need to have a CMS on top of koha? i saw that there are some drupal modules that can connect to koha
15:52 jcamins Only if you need a CMS.
15:52 jcamins (for non-catalog things)
15:52 cait1 you can design and have content on the opac front page from within koha
15:52 cait1 without problems
15:52 cait1 but it's not a library wesite replacement :)
15:53 jcamins Exactly.
15:53 mib_siz4c7 i see...
15:54 mib_siz4c7 i was initially pondering whether a CMS was the right solution for a "library management software" and since then i discovered koha
15:55 mib_siz4c7 someone in an NGO asked me to find a proper solution for automating their library processes this morning
15:55 cait1 hm it's 2 different things
15:55 mib_siz4c7 and how to provide an OPAC
15:55 cait1 a library management software / integrated library system is ... like an erp system
15:55 cait1 it's for managing workflows
15:56 cait1 you can acquire books, manage serial subscriptions, catalog materials, provide an opac etc. with koha
15:56 cait1 it's build to manage library workflows and has an opac for the library users as a frontend
15:56 cait1 and of course you can circulate books and manage your borrower data
15:56 cait1 way more than a cms cando
15:58 jcamins On the other hand, an ILS like Koha is not intended for building a website.
15:58 mib_siz4c7 yes, i am beginning to see that it's possible in a CMS, but i'd have to reinvent the wheel since it's all already done in an ILS like koha
15:58 cait1 true :)
15:59 cait1 you migt be sursprised what an ILS is supposed to do
15:59 mib_siz4c7 plus there are no standard drupal "distributions" for the library use-case (or at least, i could not find a proper one)
15:59 cait1 when you start looking deeper into it
16:00 jcamins mib_siz4c7: I don't think managing a library is possible in a CMS.
16:01 jcamins At least, not without constant web developer help.
16:01 mib_siz4c7 jcamins: wow! ok!
16:01 mib_siz4c7 perhaps that explains the lack of drupal modules and distributions for the library use-case... it's probably a bad fit for a CMS
16:01 jcamins Very bad fit.
16:02 jcamins What you could do is have an ILS + CMS, and have the CMS display your bibliographic records.
16:02 libsysguy ^^ this
16:02 libsysguy SOPAC
16:02 jcamins However, that's probably unnecessary for you, and you might as well stick with just Koha until you find you need something else.
16:02 libsysguy #link
16:03 cait1 and sopac is kind of dead I think
16:03 libsysguy oh is it?
16:03 libsysguy oops, disregard my babbling then mib_siz4c7
16:03 cait1 hm sorry libsysguy
16:04 cait1 i thin kit is, because last time I checked the forum was full of spam
16:04 libsysguy I know at one time there was a way to use the lucene index in drupal and scrape know
16:04 jcamins BibLibre does something with Drupal, but it's not called SOPAC.
16:04 cait1 on the website
16:04 cait1 maybe that change
16:04 jcamins cait1: no, SOPAC definitely looks dead.
16:04 cait1 yeah, they are working on a new module I think
16:04 cait1 and they have tried contriubting to sopac in the past
16:05 cait1 hm old svn log dates too
16:05 cait1 bit sad
16:05 cait1 it used to be cool
16:05 cait1 you people would love the snowy landscape outside my train window :)
16:05 cait1 it's lovely
16:06 ambars cait1: take a pic and share it :)
16:06 cait1 out of the train might be a bit hard, and no camera at hand - phone accu dead
16:06 ambars ah ok
16:06 cait1 hm
16:08 ambars one of the requirements that the NGO person had is: "Send reminders to the members using SMS"... where members == patrons
16:08 ambars so i'm guessing that will need something like a drupal module
16:08 jcamins Koha has support for SMS, but it requires development.
16:09 jcamins Because you need a driver depending on your SMS provider.
16:09 cait1 hm koha can do that I tihnk - but we are not using hte feature
16:09 cait1 there is an option you can activate tho
16:09 jcamins Neither am I.
16:09 cait1 i tmight require testing
16:09 jcamins Probably.
16:09 ambars wow, it's already in koha! i'll give it a shot when i get to it
16:09 jcamins But it'll work a lot better than a Drupal module.
16:09 * cait1 nods
16:09 cait1 you can send email of course
16:09 jcamins With a Drupal module, you'd need to get all the data out of Koha into Drupal, just to send an SMS.
16:10 ambars jcamins: right... and it's inbuilt into koha anyway!
16:10 cait1 ... and sorry about all my typos today
16:10 ambars what about this one: "Exception : Certain categories of books are available for learning within the library, these needs to be restricted from issuance."
16:11 jcamins Sure, just set it up so that certain types of items are not for loan.
16:11 jcamins manual?
16:11 wahanui somebody said manual was at
16:11 jcamins ^^ you'll want to read that. :)
16:11 jcamins (warning: it's long)
16:11 ambars yes, i downloaded the pdf and groaned when i saw it's over 600 pages long
16:11 cait1 there is also context help within koha
16:11 cait1 on each page
16:11 jcamins The PDF is out of date.
16:12 cait1 yeah... ILS do lots of stuff :)
16:12 jcamins All the basics are the same, but there are lots of features that may not be documented in PDF form yet.
16:12 cait1 you rlibrary might not want to use all of it, not in the beginning I think
16:13 ambars cool, i'll check the manual
16:16 ambars one last thing... do you think that koha is the right solution for a small library? i mean, it might have around a 1000 books and very few patrons. it also probably won't scale up its catalog soon.
16:16 ambars is an ILS overkill for this scenario?
16:16 jcamins No.
16:17 jcamins You won't need a lot of the features, but if they want to circulate and/or catalog books, an ILS is the way to go.
16:17 * jcamins uses Koha for private collectors.
16:18 ambars very cool
16:18 ambars thanks for all your help... i heard that koha had an awesome community and indeed you guys rock :)
16:20 * ambars starts installing koha on his EC2 tiny instance
16:20 ambars bye
16:22 * cait1 nods
16:27 jcamins Was that English?
16:27 jcamins wtf does Z39.50 have to do with the Zebra database?
16:29 libsysguy everything?
16:29 wahanui hmmm... everything is grilled
16:29 libsysguy good answer wahanui
16:29 jcamins Z39.50 import?
16:30 jcamins Not really.
16:30 libsysguy I'm confused…maybe I missed something in the playback?
16:30 jcamins The latest message on the bugs list.
16:30 cait1 hm
16:30 cait1 ?
16:30 cait1 mailing list?
16:30 wahanui well, mailing list is at[…]ha-mailing-lists/
16:31 jcamins Paul from AANDC has claimed that searching for something using Z39.50 overwrites the record in Zebra.
16:31 cait1 ah right
16:31 cait1 internet too bad to try to read that
16:31 jcamins No need to.
16:31 cait1 hm
16:31 cait1 that's confusing somethings maybe
16:31 jcamins There's no possible response other than "huh?"
16:31 libsysguy maybe he means that importing something from z39.50 overwrites his current item?
16:32 * jcamins doesn't know.
16:32 * libsysguy doesn't subscribe to the bugs list
16:32 jcamins But I read it as him claiming that when he choose not to overwrite a record from Z39.50, the record is overwritten in Zebra but not MySQL, which makes no sense at all.
16:33 jcamins Having had extensive experience with this, though, I know better than to ask for clarification.
16:33 * jcamins moves on.
16:33 libsysguy heh
16:33 libsysguy good call
16:33 jcamins Well, continues writing the e-mail he's been working on the entire time he was talking about the message.
16:34 cait1 libsysguy: not subscribing to the bug list? tss ;)
16:35 libsysguy heh I am contemplating unsubscribing from patches too
16:35 jcamins Cheater!
16:35 libsysguy :p
16:35 * jcamins does not cheat. Me reads every single message.
16:35 jcamins :P
16:39 * cait1 doestoo *sigh*
16:39 * cait1 is still working through the backlog
16:39 cait1 changing trains - bye all
16:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1045: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1045/
16:43 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Bug 9380 - branch not recording right on writeoff
16:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9380 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , branch not recording right on writeoff
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18:05 jcamins I can't believe I used to test things on this VM.
18:05 jcamins It's so slow!
18:07 jcamins I'm spoiled by my nice fast server.
18:07 jcamins Possibly also by Plack.
18:08 jcamins It may not work nearly as well, but at least I know right away that it's broken.
18:10 cait heh
18:10 cait :)
18:10 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -3.0°C (7:00 PM CET on February 10, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
18:11 cait hm the weather report shoudl say something about people in crazy costumes
18:11 cait like a ...warning or something
18:13 jcamins Wait...
18:13 jcamins I just figured out my problem with bug 9222.
18:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9222 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , manual history reversed in
18:14 jcamins The serials edit screen is terrible.
18:14 jcamins I was expecting the link that says "Cancel manual history" to have anything to do with manual history.
18:16 jcamins Silly jcamins, applying logic to serials!
18:16 jcamins Wait...
18:16 jcamins This is just another bug.
18:17 cait you confsued me
18:18 cait but if you want I can take a look in a fewminutes
18:18 jcamins No need.
18:18 jcamins I now understand.
18:19 jcamins Where "understand" = "have some vague idea what is going on"
18:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #1046 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9222' into 3.12-master <[…]3b40f02bd6e72005a> / Bug 9222: manual history reversed in <[…]e6a1e3211e654f16b>
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18:42 KOYAUNI Hello to all
18:43 KOYAUNI does any one know whether there is a Koha testing server somewhere, so we can get our students to try the application
18:46 KOYAUNI I found it
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18:53 ambars hi again
18:53 ambars i'm trying to setup koha on ubuntu 12.04
18:54 ambars i'm stuck on the "system maintenance" page and don't know how to troubleshoot from here on... apache logs aren't helping
18:54 jcamins ambars: you need to access the staff client at this point.
18:55 ambars i saw one post about removing nullmailer, and i did that
18:55 jcamins The documentation had you set it up with a URL something like, I think.
18:55 ambars i didn't setup nullmailer properly (during the "install koha-common" phase), i hope nullmailer isn't a mandatory package
18:55 jcamins Nope.
18:55 ambars ok
18:55 jcamins I use the packages and don't use nullmailer.
18:56 jcamins In fact, I think I'm the one who said to uninstall nullmailer. :P
18:56 ambars i get the staff maintenance page also for the library-intra page
18:56 jcamins @later tell wizzyrea Could you please revert patch c0e60a9079c8ffa970676172870eab75ccbcac5d (bug 8924) from 3.6.x? I keep on meaning to ask you, and keep on forgetting.
18:56 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:57 jcamins Ah, there is no staff maintenance page.
18:57 jcamins Sounds like a DNS issue.
18:57 ambars sorry, i meant the "system maintenance" page
18:57 jcamins Nice and easy to resolve. :)
18:57 jcamins I knew what you meant.
18:57 ambars yes, it's probably a dns issue
18:57 jcamins There's no system maintenance page on the staff client, which means that you're trying to access the OPAC both times.
18:58 ambars i see
18:58 jcamins So the solution is going to involve opening up /etc/apache2/sites-available/library (or whatever you called your instance)
18:59 jcamins Are you familiar with Apache configuration and DNS?
18:59 jcamins If you are, I can tell you this is a completely typical Apache configuration so you just need to adjust ServerName to match what you have the DNS set up with.
19:00 ambars reasonably familiar... regarding that... i'm running both the staff page and the OPAC on the same IP and same port number... the instructions didn't specify setting up the staff site over 8080
19:00 ambars both are on 80
19:00 jcamins Right, that's the recommended configuration.
19:01 jcamins Then you just use Virtual Hosts.
19:01 ambars okay
19:01 jcamins The only problem is that it's easy to add too many periods (or too few) in the setup process, in which case you end up with an incomprehensible ServerName like library-intra..koha
19:03 jcamins So if you take a look in that file, the first VirtualHost is the OPAC.
19:03 jcamins The second is for the Intranet, and is the one that you'll probably need to adjust to match your DNS.
19:03 jcamins I favor over, but it doesn't actually make a difference.
19:04 jcamins And if you don't have DNS and need to use ports you can change the port number in the intranet VirtualHost tag, and add "Listen 8080" (or whatever) to /etc/apache2/ports.conf
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19:07 ambars could you please see this:
19:07 ambars that's my apache conf
19:07 jcamins What DNS are you trying to use?
19:07 jcamins *host names
19:08 ambars for the OPAC and for the staff site
19:08 jcamins Okay.
19:08 jcamins So all you have to do is add "" at the end of the ServerName lines.
19:09 ambars cool, lemme try that
19:09 jcamins Then restart Apache with `sudo apache2ctl restart`
19:11 ambars it works!!
19:11 * ambars hugs jcamins
19:11 ambars thank you!!!
19:12 jcamins :)
19:12 jcamins Yay!
19:14 ambars i can't see how i missed that... should there be some mention of this step ("adjust the ServerName") on the instructions page?
19:14 ambars i mean, to make it more foolproof for n00bs like me
19:14 jcamins There should be, yes.
19:15 jcamins I had delegating adding that to someone a few weeks ago, but I guess either the changes didn't get made or they were reverted.
19:15 ambars Ah ok.
19:16 jcamins *delegated
19:16 * ambars goes and finishes the web installer steps now
19:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1046: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1046/
19:28 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9222: manual history reversed in
19:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9222 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , manual history reversed in
20:06 ambars koha rulz! gnite folks :)
20:07 cait :)
20:24 jcamins Jeez, the blizzard wasn't bad, but the snow falling could kill someone.
20:24 cait lots of snow?
20:25 jcamins It didn't seem like that much, but it's falling off the roof in huge blocks.
20:25 jcamins And banging dramatically.
20:25 cait oh
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20:28 jcamins eythian_: I was going to bug you about a packaging dependencies update for master. Consider yourself bugged.
20:28 eythian_ jcamins: OK cool.
20:29 eythian_ time I did a master package rebuild anyway, it needs some patching for test cases I think.
20:29 * cait waves :)
20:29 jcamins eythian_: while you're at it, could you please remove the CHI dependencies from the packages?
20:29 eythian_ I thought I had...
20:30 jcamins You did, but then you withdrew the patch making the change.
20:30 eythian_ I did? I wonder why I did that.
20:30 jcamins You said last week you wanted to do a new patch.
20:31 eythian_ oh right
20:31 eythian_ yeah that makes sense now, I forgot that was in there.
20:52 rangi so
20:52 rangi[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9451
20:52 huginn Bug 9451: normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , gives off warnings and is not Plack-compatible
20:53 rangi see next to the patch
20:53 rangi there is details, diff, splinter review
20:53 rangi try clicking on the splinter review
20:53 cait is that a new feature/plugin?`
20:53 rangi yup
20:54 rangi watch this
20:54 cait watching
20:54 cait and clicking through
20:54 rangi click on all files
20:54 rangi can you see my comment?
20:55 jcamins Under overview, not all files.
20:55 rangi if you click all files it should be inline
20:55 rangi see any of the coloured bars
20:55 rangi double click on one
20:55 jcamins Oh, cool!
20:55 rangi and you can comment
20:55 rangi then go back to overview and publish
20:56 rangi (it saves as draft as you go)
20:56 cait fishsoup again? :)
20:56 rangi yup
20:56 rangi fishsoup rules
20:56 cait fishsoup++ :)
20:56 rangi so you can do overall comments
20:56 rangi and then inline ones too
20:56 rangi i think it will be useful, the inline ones especially
20:57 jcamins For the record, I want Mozilla Persona authentication in 3.12.
20:57 rangi sweet
20:57 rangi i just have to do the syspref
20:57 rangi bit
20:57 rangi and do a patch
20:57 rangi so tonight
20:58 rangi the email from that review is quite nice too
20:58 cait rangi++ too :)
20:59 jcamins rangi: and, yes, our is hacky, but sometimes you look at the code and realize that a quick fix that doesn't use our is hopeless.
20:59 rangi yep
21:00 rangi libsysguy: you about?
21:36 cait hm
21:36 cait could take someone a look at the current opac (default theme) ?
21:36 cait in chromium
21:36 cait the cart button looks weird
21:36 jcamins dcook was saying that.
21:36 jcamins Are you on Windows?
21:36 cait ah
21:36 cait nope
21:36 cait ubuntu
21:36 jcamins Hm.
21:37 cait so you couldn't reproduce?
21:38 cait I was wondering if filing a but makes sense, but if someone else thought it
21:38 jcamins Nope.
21:38 cait hm saw it
21:38 cait it might be worth
21:38 jcamins Whatever the problem is, it's Chromium-specific, and doesn't seem to be related to the operating system.
21:38 cait I will file a bug
21:38 cait someone can close it worksforme then :)
21:39 jcamins Well, sure, it works for me, but that's not the point... there are people it doesn't work for.
21:41 cait bug filed
21:45 jcamins bug 8661
21:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8661 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , break out additional authors in opac like in staff
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22:58 jcamins dcook: cait ran into the same problem with the cart you did.
22:58 cait aha! :)
22:58 cait oh
22:58 cait misread
22:58 dcook Glad to know I'm not the only one
22:58 cait no you aren't :)
22:58 dcook What browser and OS were you using?
22:59 cait ubuntu and chromium, works in firefox
22:59 cait I reported a bug
22:59 dcook Sweet. I had it on my list of things to do, so maybe I'll just add a comment
22:59 dcook I was using Chrome and Windows 8 and Windows Vista
22:59 dcook Worked fine on FF and IE
22:59 dcook What's the bug #?
22:59 wahanui the bug # is there
23:00 cait hm sec
23:00 dcook Worked fine on my Android phone though
23:00 cait bug 9583
23:00 eythian_ wahanui: germs?
23:00 wahanui well, germs is
23:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9583 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC cart button display problem in Chromium
23:00 cait eythian_:  trying to annoy me? :)
23:00 eythian_ wahanui: germs?
23:00 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
23:01 eythian_ I suppose it worked that time :)
23:01 * dcook hearts that image
23:02 cait what is this about the 5 seconds?
23:02 eythian_ 5-second rule!
23:02 dcook There is no 5 second rule in Germany for food that has touched the floor?
23:03 eythian_ In student places, it's a 3-month rule.
23:06 cait dcook: haven't heard aobut that so far :)
23:06 cait my rule is more about the who cleans the floor
23:06 cait or not cleans
23:08 eythian_ cait: no, it's if food has been on the floor for <5 seconds, it's still safe to eat
23:09 * dcook tries to remember the MythBuster results on that one...
23:11 cait heh
23:11 cait eythian_: I will stick with my rules :P
23:11 cait good night #koha
23:11 dcook night, cait
23:11 eythian_ later
23:11 cait :)
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23:18 dcook Mmm, I think I might have found the commit where things get messed up...
23:20 dcook Bug 9265
23:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9265 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Switch to HTML5 doctype in OPAC and staff client
23:27 eythian_ wizzyrea is a git repo:
23:28 jcamins Heh.
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23:28 dcook Hmm, what's the process to follow here? Bug 9265 is the cause of the OPAC cart button display problem. It's already been pushed to I fail 9265, list 9583 as a bug it blocks, or just reference 9265 in the 9583?
23:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9265 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Switch to HTML5 doctype in OPAC and staff client
23:32 dcook jcamins, eythian_?
23:32 eythian_ dcook: is it in master?
23:32 dcook Yep
23:32 eythian_ and it works there?
23:32 dcook The HTML5 doctype patch causes a problem in master
23:33 dcook It might mostly work though
23:33 dcook But the cart button display is definitely caused by that commit
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23:35 dcook eythian_: not sure why, but I checkout before and after, and it looks like it's somehow the cause
23:37 jcamins Well, this is not a revertable offense, so update bug 9583 and describe what you have found about the 9265 patch.
23:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9583 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC cart button display problem in Chromium
23:38 dcook Sounds good. Thanks, jcamins.
23:52 jcamins Heh. Looks like bgkriegel scooped you. :)
23:53 dcook Hehe
23:54 dcook Glad that someone is on the ball. I was looking to see if anyone else has had issues out in the world

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