IRC log for #koha, 2013-01-30

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00:09 Dyrcona rangi: Do you still use the PGP key with ID: 0x4BE030B3 ?
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01:17 mmm45 I just installed koha 3.10.0 from the tarball and I am not very sure how to manage that installation with git Is there a command that will tie it to git?
01:18 mmm45 sorry, 3.10.01
01:18 wizzyrea did you do a dev install?
01:19 wizzyrea and I mean, when you ran ./configure, did you specify dev?
01:19 wizzyrea because it will ask you
01:19 mmm45 no, i did not
01:19 mmm45 i've followed the upgrade instructions
01:20 mmm45 in the install.debian
01:20 mmm45 i upgraded from 3.09 to 3.10.1
01:20 wizzyrea did you specify dev when you installed your 3.09?
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01:22 mmm45 not sure. it was already installed when i took over the job
01:22 wizzyrea Ahh
01:23 wizzyrea well
01:23 wizzyrea is your running code in /usr/share or is it in, say /home/<user>
01:23 wizzyrea that is to say, do you have something like a kohaclone in your koha user's home directory/
01:23 wizzyrea ?
01:24 mmm45 it is home user
01:24 wizzyrea ok so you already have a dev install it sounds like
01:24 mmm45 and in the previous version it is kohaclone
01:24 mmm45 koha-dev
01:24 wizzyrea so basicallky
01:24 mmm45 yes
01:24 wizzyrea you should have both
01:24 wizzyrea a kohaclone, and a koha-dev
01:24 wizzyrea where are you from?
01:24 mmm45 yes
01:24 mmm45 i have both
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01:25 wizzyrea so if you go into your kohaclone
01:25 wizzyrea and you ls -lah
01:25 wizzyrea do you see a .git directory?
01:25 mmm45 there is a .git
01:25 mmm45 yes
01:26 mmm45 i see it
01:26 wizzyrea ok so
01:26 wizzyrea you are already running from git.
01:26 wizzyrea so if you wanted to update that
01:26 wizzyrea assuming you really want to
01:26 wizzyrea you can do a
01:26 mmm45 the upgrade installed into a separate folder from kohaclone
01:26 mmm45 the new folder is koha-3.10.01
01:26 wizzyrea hm, you could be in a mess then.
01:27 mmm45 i took a snapshop so i can revert
01:27 mmm45 if i need to
01:27 wizzyrea well probably what you want to do
01:27 wizzyrea[…]Control_Using_Git
01:27 mmm45 do you have a suggestion on how to do the upgrade differently?
01:28 wizzyrea is have a look here
01:28 wizzyrea[…]t_install_of_Koha
01:28 wizzyrea specifically this
01:28 wizzyrea and forget about using the tarball to update
01:29 wizzyrea since you already have a repository
01:29 wizzyrea that you are presumably using
01:29 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:29 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 26.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
01:29 wizzyrea 26!
01:29 mmm45 yes, we are using the repository
01:29 wizzyrea repository = kohaclone, in this case
01:30 wizzyrea basically, go into your kohaclone,
01:30 wizzyrea git fetch && git rebase origin/master
01:30 wizzyrea probably first git checkout master
01:30 wizzyrea then fetch & rebase
01:30 mmm45 i'll try that
01:30 mmm45 thank you so much
01:31 wizzyrea ah yea, you're welcome :)
01:31 wizzyrea good luck, pop back if you get stuck.
01:32 wizzyrea you may want to fall back to your snapshot, just because
01:32 mmm45 i sure will :-)
01:32 wizzyrea who knows what ways it got broken when you tried to upgrade
01:34 rangi Dyrcona: I do, whats up?
01:37 Dyrcona rangi: Just wanted to ask before sending an email.
01:37 rangi ah sweet :)
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02:46 * libsysguy whistles while he exports the LoC catalog
02:48 * wizzyrea expects the US Attorney General will be at your door soon.
02:51 libsysguy hehe
02:52 cjh heh
02:52 libsysguy actually I need to select all the records first
02:52 libsysguy then export
02:52 * libsysguy needs a wildcard
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03:03 wizzyrea @later tell oleonard boy those bootstrap buttons sure are pretty <3
03:03 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
03:10 libsysguy wizzyrea I think it would be cool to include your less files in koha and then have them compiled for you
03:10 libsysguy npm++
03:12 libsysguy my god…what have we done
03:13 wizzyrea ermmm
03:15 libsysguy yeah...
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03:30 mmm45 i have just upgraded to 3.10.1 but i am having an issue with the yui for staff/intranet showing up correctly
03:30 mmm45 any suggestions?
03:30 wahanui any suggestions are welcome.
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03:43 mmm45 can anyone help me with this yui issue?
03:43 mmm45 thank you so much
04:01 bag oh just got my domain registration notice scamm of the day!
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04:34 Oak kia ora #koha
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04:56 libsysguy @list wahanui
04:56 huginn libsysguy: Error: 'wahanui' is not a valid plugin.
04:56 libsysguy @wahanui list
04:56 huginn libsysguy: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
04:56 libsysguy @huginn info
04:56 huginn libsysguy: I've exhausted my database of quotes
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04:58 libsysguy heh awesome nick qu-bit
04:59 libsysguy and the icing on the cake is schredngr
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05:34 mtj libsysguy, yep , its a goody :)
05:46 mtj a random question… does anyone know if their is a tool to do the opposite of this -> ./misc/
05:47 mtj ie: build/sync values in the marcxml field, from say the items.* table…?
05:47 mtj ive been using a simple script, to do that stuff
05:48 mtj is there a better tool?
05:49 mtj hmmm. would be a handy thing for dev-ing, testing and general koha admin
05:58 mtj s/their/there/ ^^ :)
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07:05 cait mtj++ :)
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07:11 * magnuse waves
07:14 cait magnuse: I just had to rerun theh makefile thing 3 times because i always forgot to change to nb and normarc ;)
07:15 magnuse moahaha ;-)
07:15 cait hm
07:15 cait it failed
07:15 cait the make
07:15 cait Error:  Unknown MySQL server host '__DB_HOST__' (2) at /home/katrin/kohacloneN/blib/​PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/ line 803.
07:16 cait #   Failed test 'use C4::XSLT;'
07:16 cait #   at t/00-load.t line 30.
07:16 cait #     Tried to use 'C4::XSLT'.
07:16 magnuse is that the normarc analytics thing?
07:17 cait I don't know
07:17 cait I am triyng to test jared's query parser
07:17 magnuse ah, ok
07:17 cait and I thought I would combine it with setting up another installation
07:17 cait for normarc
07:17 cait so I can test your things easier
07:17 magnuse wow, cool
07:17 cait but... I can't
07:19 cait I thnk I know what it is
07:20 cait bug 8924
07:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8924 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Some modules erroneously skipped by 00-load
07:22 magnuse "Unknown MySQL server host '__DB_HOST__'" sounds weird, though
07:22 cait it tries to load modules
07:22 cait but there is no database yet
07:23 cait so it fails, I think
07:23 magnuse i have seen some placeholders like that in my koha-conf.xml, but i havn't had the time to investigate
07:23 cait hm
07:23 cait I will try another run with marc21
07:24 cait never mind
07:24 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
07:25 cait it's me being not awake yet
07:26 cait magnuse: cross fingers :)
07:26 cait oh
07:26 cait fail again :(
07:27 magnuse :-(
07:27 cait
07:27 magnuse same error?
07:27 cait bah
07:27 cait never mind
07:27 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
07:27 cait now that I pasted it it's easier to read - I will check the database
07:29 magnuse the database error looks weird among the module-related ones
07:29 cait yep
07:29 cait ah that looks better
07:29 cait probably permission on the database was wrong
07:29 cait sorry to have bothered you
07:34 magnuse np!
07:40 cait ok, the make install worked, all good
07:40 cait only the conf file still has not what i was looking for
07:41 cait jcamins_away will figure it out when he is back :)
07:41 cait bbl :)
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07:45 reiveune hello
07:45 alex_a bonjour
07:45 magnuse kia ora!
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08:02 mtj … anyone wanna signoff on this bootstrap patch 9420 ?
08:02 mtj bug 9420
08:02 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Work on Bootstrap for Koha
08:03 mtj then i could QA it today :p
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08:19 kf good morning #koha :)
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08:44 drojf good morning #okoha
08:44 drojf #koha even
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09:02 kf moring drojf and paul_p
09:04 kf @later tell rangi there is a problem with the dashboard - could you take a look?
09:04 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
09:05 drojf kf: did you call me boring? ;9
09:05 drojf ;)
09:05 kf drojf: huh?
09:08 drojf ah no you said 'moring' :P
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10:40 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha 200 developers!! this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software The next general meeting is 7 February 2013, at 2:00 UTC
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10:48 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha 200 developers!! this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software The next general meeting is 7 February 2013, at 2:00 UTC
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10:59 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha 200 developers!! this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software The next general meeting is 7 February 2013, at 2:00 UTC
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11:23 gerundio what's up with #koha today
11:23 gerundio just a lot of quits and joins
11:25 mtj yeah, oftc is just bouncy today, is all
11:27 magnuse` hey, bouncing is fun!
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12:06 * kf bounces
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12:19 tcohen good morning #Koha
12:20 kf hi tcohen
12:20 * kf hands tcohen the duct tape
12:21 * kf hands drojf some too
12:23 tcohen hi kf
12:28 drojf kf: thanks, i'm good. just drove to work
12:34 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:34 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 11.1°C (1:13 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
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12:34 drojf spring fever! if only the rain would stop
12:34 kf no rain here :)
12:34 kf @wunder Konstanz
12:34 tcohen my colleages hate me today, i'm with a flu and at work...
12:34 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.3°C (1:30 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
12:34 drojf nice!
12:34 tcohen i shouldnt have left home today :-(
12:36 kf oh? :(
12:36 kf oh the flu
12:36 kf yes, you shoudl have stayed home.
12:38 drojf this looks pretty cool.[…]ooks-like/272583/#.UQh-24A7idw.twitter unfortunately the actual website seems to be down
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12:41 kf hm seems to work for me :)
12:46 drojf oh. hm
12:46 drojf weird
12:46 drojf ah now it does for me too
12:48 gerundio 1st access returned 404 to me too
12:48 gerundio now it works
12:48 gerundio cool project, even though I'm not a Twitter user
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13:04 druthb @wunder 66046
13:04 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -2.3°C (6:59 AM CST on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST Thursday...
13:04 druthb @wunder bodo, norway
13:04 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975 hPa (Steady).
13:04 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:04 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 20.0°C (8:00 AM ART on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:04 druthb Thought so.  Dangit.
13:04 * druthb is jealous again
13:05 drojf woah, we got heavy rain from one minute to the other
13:06 magnuse druthb: you should move north of the arctic circle ;-)
13:06 druthb Either there, or Cordoba.
13:07 magnuse yeah...
13:07 drojf when is artikohacon?
13:07 kf sun here now :D
13:07 druthb @wunder konstanz
13:07 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0°C (2:00 PM CET on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
13:07 druthb puh.
13:08 druthb we had 20-21C here just *three days ago*.  Tonight, nearly 3cm of snow overnight, it's -2, and gonna get colder ALL DAY.
13:08 druthb Tonight's low should be down around -12C
13:09 magnuse drojf: as soon as there are enough koha libraries in norway :-)
13:09 drojf magnuse: i claim greenland :)
13:09 magnuse fine by me!
13:09 drojf only have to find a library there ;)
13:10 drojf maybe a raspberry koha in some east greenlandic bygd with 5 people :D
13:10 magnuse yay!
13:10 drojf and east greenlandic translation of course
13:11 * druthb wants to become the sysadmin for the library on one of the lil atolls in the pacific or something.  Maybe Kwajalein...
13:11 * magnuse wonders about the state of libraries and library automation in greenland
13:12 magnuse looks like lib-web-cats only knows about places in the us called greenland...
13:12 drojf magnuse: i have seen the university library. i don't know of any others
13:12 druthb magnuse, isn't Svalbard part of Norway?
13:12 magnuse druthb: um, sort of
13:13 druthb @wunder longyearbyen
13:13 huginn druthb: Error: No such location could be found.
13:13 druthb tsk
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13:15 magnuse druthb: "The Svalbard Treaty of 1920 established full Norwegian sovereignty over the archipelago. The islands are, unlike the Norwegian Antarctic Territory, a part of the Kingdom of Norway and not a dependency. The treaty came into effect in 1925, following the Svalbard Act. All forty signatory countries of the treaty have the right to conduct commercial activities on the archipelago without discrimination, although all activity is subject to
13:15 magnuse Norwegian legislation."
13:15 druthb 61,022 square kilometers, with less than 3000 people in it.
13:15 magnuse hehe
13:15 magnuse nice and spacey
13:15 magnuse but of course, those people are huddled together in a few places
13:16 druthb Most are in Longyearbyen, apparently.
13:16 magnuse yup
13:16 magnuse "The administrative center is Longyearbyen. Other settlements include the active Russian mining community of Barentsburg; the abandoned Russian mining settlement of Pyramiden (originally founded by the Swedish); the research community of Ny-Ã…lesund; and the Swedish mining outpost of Sveagruva."
13:16 magnuse quotes from :-)
13:17 druthb ...and cold.  Very, very cold.  January averages -16 to -12C.
13:17 magnuse yeah
13:17 magnuse and months and months of no sun
13:18 magnuse (and equivalent amounts of midnight sun in the summer, of course)
13:18 drojf -16 to -12 is not "very cold" :P
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13:18 druthb uhm.  yes.  it is.
13:19 druthb Too cold for this girl, even if I do have many layers of body fat to keep me warm, like polar animals do.
13:20 magnuse[…]n/statistics.html
13:20 magnuse hottest day of 2012 was +13C :-)
13:21 drojf cozy :D
13:21 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:21 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 19.4°C (7:51 AM EST on January 30, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 1 am to 10 am EST Thursday...
13:21 druthb That couple of weeks in July and August might be nice.  The rest of the year, I'm outa there.
13:21 oleonard We're still in the warm part druthb, but your cold weather should arrive later today
13:21 magnuse you'll probably find places inland in mainland norway that are colder than longyearbyen
13:21 magnuse like[…]3/statistics.html
13:21 drojf what is the wind advised? how to blow?
13:22 oleonard One is advised that the wind blows.
13:22 drojf oh. that sounds less fun
13:22 druthb It's headed your way, oleonard.  We were at 70F three days ago, 29F now, and temps will fall all day, low tonight of 9F.  Batten down the hatches, this one's a killer.
13:23 oleonard *sigh*
13:23 oleonard I can hear the wind gusting out side right now in fact
13:23 drojf so "parental advisory: explicit lyrics" means that my parents curse? english is a strange language ;)
13:24 kf oleonard++ again :)
13:25 kf for your work on bootstrap this time
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13:31 H Hey Koha
13:31 kf hi H
13:31 kf someone with a shorter nick than me
13:32 kf :)
13:32 H are we vissible outside annyone want to test
13:32 H ;)
13:32 oleonard Not to me H
13:32 H dam
13:32 H thx
13:33 kf not to me either
13:34 magnuse server not found
13:34 wahanui1 it has been said that server not found is a different error to what you described before
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13:36 drojf Whois Record This domain name is not registered
13:36 drojf typo?
13:37 drojf H ^^
13:37 H ill ask our administrator
13:37 H thx for testing
13:39 drojf H: is that the correct name of your institution's web domain?
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13:40 H well its a name used here it works inside but i got sure what the pollicy is
13:40 tcohen is there anyone with 3.10 deployments in production? is it ready?
13:43 magnuse i'm blocked by bug 9256, otherwise i would have upgraded my customers i think
13:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
13:44 kf tcohen: we are starting testing - ask again in a few weeks ? :)
13:45 tcohen thanks kf, i'm about to update 3.8 now and wanted to know if 3.10 was worth
13:51 kf tcohen: we are updating from 3.6... so ...
13:51 kf hm
13:51 kf I wonder
13:52 kf does someoen know what happens if you return/issue books on the self check?
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13:52 kf it looks to me like a checkout slip email is generated, but it seems to be empty
13:52 kf the list of books is missing
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14:05 WaylonR hiya all, okay, Ive finished a authentication rules system draft, where any combination of virtualhost/ip address (proxy ip or actual ip)/referer (partial match or only full match) would result in a user logging in... or not, there might be a higher priority disallow rule set. now, has a geoip ban set in place.. if a secure (by ip only) rule isn't met, and its from a banned country, they get a banned response, not even a chance to enter in a p
14:05 WaylonR assword. Where would i put a banned country list? in a system preference?
14:05 WaylonR storing it in its own table im thinking, overkill.
14:06 * magnuse would probably try a syspref first
14:08 WaylonR its a opac only ban, ill put it in opac section?
14:09 magnuse sounds plausible
14:16 libsysguy indeed
14:19 kf tweetbot going insane?
14:19 kf btw - does that table look a bit off to someone else too?
14:19 kf
14:19 kf oooh
14:19 kf oh right, I shoudl look at the master line... never mind
14:23 oleonard Oi tweetbot` cut it out
14:29 kf are those retweets or is he really going crazy?
14:29 oleonard I think he's going crazy
14:30 WaylonR magnuse, this query look right to you? "select b.userid, bar.virtualhost, startip, endip, referer, priority from borrower_authrules bar left join borrowers b on b.borrowernumber = bar.borrowernumber left join borrower_attributes ba on b.borrowernumber=ba.borrowernumber where (bar.virtualhost = ? or bar.virtualhost = "*") and (inet_aton(startip) <= inet_aton(?) or startip = "*")  and (inet_aton(endip) >= inet_aton(?) or endip = "*") and (referer = ? or (ref
14:30 WaylonR erer like concat(?,'%') and partial = 1) or referer = "*") and b.userid is not null and b.checkauthrules = 1 order by priority desc limit 1"
14:30 WaylonR it works well, at least.
14:31 WaylonR doh, i forgot the action field in the fields to return.
14:31 magnuse WaylonR: that query makes my head spin :-)
14:32 tcohen is it ok to write "Pre-3.12 users" in english?
14:33 oleonard It makes sense to me tcohen (though of course I know what "3.12" means)
14:36 tcohen thanks oleonard
14:36 tcohen[…]dexing_with_Zebra
14:48 mtj eep, full disk on my linode ^^
14:49 mtj well, full disk caused by a crazy supybot log.file :/
14:50 mtj … which then caused the tweetbot to freak out
14:50 mtj i really must fix that
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15:31 gmcharlt @quote random
15:31 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #178: "jcamins: IIS kills kittens" (added by wizzyrea at 05:20 PM, January 10, 2012)
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16:02 reiveune1 bye
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16:05 oleonard Interesting... Found the first instance where a Bootstrap widget doesn't work without an HTML5 doctype
16:05 oleonard Split button/menu isn't sized correctly with an XHTML doctype for some reason.
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16:25 kf oleonard: thankfully it passed qa today? :)
16:25 kf the doctype - I think mason qa'd it?
16:25 oleonard mtj++ # :)
16:25 kf yep :)
16:25 kf ok, going home - cya all later :)
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16:37 oleonard This channel is all comings and goings today
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16:45 oleonard Bootstrap toolbar on the biblio detail page:
16:46 oleonard The "place hold" icon isn't quite right. I'm still figuring out the constraints of the Bootstrap sprite
16:48 oleonard With split button/menu:
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17:10 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha 200 developers!! this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software The next general meeting is 7 February 2013, at 2:00 UTC
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17:15 nengard at some point the title of the 3.10 manual was changed to 3.12 (my fault) - how do I find out in git when that happened?
17:16 Dyrcona nengard: git blame filename will tell you who changed it and when.
17:16 nengard it's all one file though
17:16 nengard and i am the one who did it - i just have to know when i did it :)
17:17 Dyrcona git blame goes line by line.
17:17 nengard so do i just put the filename in? or the string i want to find as well?
17:17 oleonard git blame <filename>
17:21 jwagner git blame -L 123 <filename> for e.g. line 123
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17:27 H Well if i'm not wrong again we should be visible for the world
17:31 tcohen anyone from biblibre? are there any news on the solr indexer being integrated into koha?
17:32 jcamins_away tcohen: it's already there.
17:32 tcohen is it on master?
17:32 jcamins_away Yes.
17:33 * jcamins_away does not consider it usable, however.
17:36 tcohen jcamins_away, is anyone working on writing Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra::Index ?
17:38 jcamins_away No.
17:39 jcamins_away Oh, Zebra.
17:39 jcamins_away Yes.
17:39 jcamins_away Me. :)
17:40 jcamins_away My first step is to refactor C4::Search, then I'll move the code from C4::Search to Koha::SearchEngine.
17:40 Dyrcona jcamins_away: Is that refactoring related to your interest in Evergreen's QueryParser?
17:40 jcamins_away Yeah.
17:41 jcamins_away A patch introducing QP to C4::Search is making its way into Koha.
17:41 Dyrcona Cool.
17:41 jcamins_away With QP, we're able to get rid of a lot of the really nasty code.
17:45 nengard thanks jwagner the line thing helped
17:45 nengard so now the question is - how do i see the commit?
17:45 nengard 972508a3 en/manual.xml        (Nicole C. Engard 2013-01-28 15:25:42 -0500     7)
17:45 nengard befe4bf2 en/manual.xml        (Nicole C. Engard 2012-07-14 20:04:17 -0400     8)
17:46 nengard Looks like it ws the 28th - and something is VERY wrong with the 3.10 manual branch
17:46 nengard[…]eads/manual3.10.x
17:46 nengard You can see that there are duplicate commits - i think my master commits were going to 3.10 as well
17:46 nengard which is no good - don't know where i screwed up
17:46 nengard but I certainly did screw up
17:47 jcamins_away git show befe4bf2
17:47 jcamins_away Or whatever.
17:55 nengard alright i'm not sure i know how to fix what i did ? which is not good
17:55 nengard looks like when i reverted a commit is broke things ? which makes no sense
17:56 nengard is there a way to get the 3.10 manual branch back to how it was before i created the new master (3.12) branch? and then do some cherry picking from master to 3.10?
17:58 nengard[…]273a5d99592480e02
18:01 Dyrcona nengard: You could just revert the offending commit. Depends on the community's policy about reverting.
18:01 nengard i make the policy for the manual
18:02 nengard but the offending patch is a revert ?
18:02 Dyrcona Well, there you go. :)
18:02 nengard so i'd be reverting a revert
18:02 nengard which would make things bad as well
18:02 nengard see what i'm saying?
18:02 nengard i accidentally pushed the 3.8 manual to the 3.10 branch so i was reverting that, but when i did that it somehow made it like the 3.12 branch
18:03 Dyrcona Well, you could get a series of patches back to the offending commit.
18:03 Dyrcona git help patch to find out how.
18:04 Dyrcona Then, you could git reset --hard <commit hash just before the change>
18:04 Dyrcona Then, apply the patches you stored earlier.
18:04 Dyrcona It would require the ability to force push to the remote repository in order to rewrite history like that.
18:05 nengard okay
18:05 nengard i'll see what i can do
18:05 nengard thanks for trying to help with this
18:05 nengard !!
18:05 Dyrcona git help diff might also be useful. you'd want git diff to make the patches, I think.
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18:23 nengard Dyrcona when you say '<commit hash just before the change>'  do you mean the last commit i want kept?
18:24 Dyrcona nengard: Yes.
18:24 nengard k
18:24 nengard ? fingers crossed
18:25 nengard i lost the url for the #koha pastebin ?
18:26 nengard i have a message i want to share - what's the url?
18:27 cait pastebin?
18:27 wahanui pastebin is probably at
18:28 nengard thansk
18:28 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "Dyrcona this is what i get when i try to push the changes" (12 lines) at
18:30 Dyrcona Yeah, you'd need to force the push. Easiest way to do that is like so: git push origin +manual3.10.x:manual3.10.x
18:30 nengard okey dokey
18:30 Dyrcona That still might fail depending on what you're allowed to do.
18:32 nengard Dyrcona++
18:32 nengard You're the bestest :)
18:32 nengard It worked and I think everything is okay
18:32 nengard we'll know for sure tomorrow
18:32 nengard[…]eads/manual3.10.x
18:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #13 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: STILL FAILING)
18:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #13: STILL FAILING in 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]a_Docs_3.10.x/13/
18:35 jenkins_koha * nengard: add IDs to authorized values
18:35 nengard okay i need FOOD now :)
18:35 jenkins_koha * nengard: update data implementation checklist
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19:41 nengard I have a question about the paid for notation on the item record.
19:41 nengard If you see here: it says that it was paid for by a patron on the 24th of Sept.
19:41 nengard Then if you look at the patron's record see that they did make a payment related to that item, but it wasn't a payment for the lost item - it was a processing fee. I'm wondering what makes this note appear in the first place?
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19:51 melia gmcharlt around?
20:01 gmcharlt melia: howdy
20:01 melia hi Galen! I reported a new and strange DOM bug:[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9511
20:01 huginn Bug 9511: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , DOM indexing problem
20:02 gmcharlt melia: ok, I'll take a look
20:02 melia thank you!
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20:32 wizzyrea wow, the twitterbot went a bit mad
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21:27 JoeLib001 Hello Again, Everyone. :-)
21:28 wizzyrea hi :)
21:28 JoeLib001 How would I check, if I am using unimarc or marc21 for my records?
21:29 cjh JoeLib001: in your koha admin preferences there is a syspref called 'marcflavour' that will have this setting.
21:30 JoeLib001 Thanks. :-)
21:30 cjh you're welcome :)
21:32 JoeLib001 I have been researching the problem I am having and wanted to see, if that might be the problem.
21:32 JoeLib001 Mine is set to marc21, so I think that wouldn't be a problem.
21:34 JoeLib001 I am geting &lt, &gt, etc when I am importing my Koha records into a different system.
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21:34 JoeLib001 instead of the characters < and >.
21:35 wizzyrea how are you exporting the records?
21:35 JoeLib001 When I export the record using the export data tool it exports fine.
21:36 JoeLib001 When I do a Z39.50 search of my koha data it returns the odd characters.
21:36 JoeLib001 I.E. I connect to my Koha DB using Z39.50.
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21:36 JoeLib001 I confirmed that it wasn't just the one record either.
21:37 cjh hmm &lt and &gt are the html escapes or < and > than, hmmm.
21:37 wizzyrea oh you've been here before :)
21:37 wizzyrea i sort of remember this problem.
21:37 JoeLib001 Yep. ;-)
21:38 JoeLib001 Was last week, but I was out for the week at that point and didn't pick it up until today. ;-)
21:38 wizzyrea so, if you connect to it from yaz-client
21:38 wizzyrea and look at the records you are exporting, are they right?
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21:39 JoeLib001 I haven't used the yaz-client before.
21:40 wizzyrea it's a command line tool - one sec let me get the syntax for connecting to your local db...
21:42 JoeLib001 I got that much. I can't figure out how to do a search though.
21:42 JoeLib001 I just did a search for yaz-client koha. ;-)
21:43 wizzyrea yay
21:43 JoeLib001 yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ localhost:9999/biblios
21:43 cjh \o/
21:43 JoeLib001 Now, how do I do a search?
21:43 JoeLib001 Hehe
21:43 wizzyrea try "help"
21:43 JoeLib001 That looks a lot more complicated. ;-)
21:44 wizzyrea i think it's something like
21:44 wizzyrea f search term
21:44 JoeLib001 I did find linux
21:44 JoeLib001 then show
21:44 cjh find query
21:45 JoeLib001 Gave me &lt, &lt, etc in the results.
21:46 wizzyrea well that's pretty definitive evidence that it's zebra that's doing it, if koha shows them correctly in the interface
21:46 JoeLib001 Like this: 500    $a Published: Seattle, Wash. : Specialized Systems Consultants, &lt;1997- &gt;
21:46 eythian I assume that the MARC records in the database don't have it?
21:47 JoeLib001 It shows up like that in the marcxml section, but isn't that how you would store the characters in xml?
21:47 eythian yeah
21:48 eythian I'm not sure which bit zebra uses
21:48 * wizzyrea idly wonders if you index with -x or not
21:48 wizzyrea not sure it would matter, but it might
21:48 JoeLib001 ?
21:48 wizzyrea zebra isn't really my area of expertise.
21:48 JoeLib001 Not sure how I index it. ;-)
21:49 JoeLib001 I would have to look again. :-)
21:49 JoeLib001 I am using the pacakges, so however it's setup there.
21:49 eythian packages are -x by default
21:49 wizzyrea there you have it
21:49 JoeLib001 Would that be problematic?
21:50 eythian shouldn't be, but you never know.
21:50 JoeLib001 So, if I re-index without the -x it should fix it?
21:50 wizzyrea really though, if it *is* problematic, that would be the only way to know
21:50 JoeLib001 Assuming that is a problem. :-)
21:50 eythian not going to promise that :)
21:50 wizzyrea and that would be a zebra bug.
21:51 JoeLib001 What does the -x do? Index it in XML?
21:51 eythian yeah
21:54 JoeLib001 Hmm..., probably should test it on my test server. ;-)
21:54 JoeLib001 Virtualbox is awesome. :-)
22:04 JoeLib001 Yeah...., it's bad to forget the password for root. ;-)
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22:20 JoeLib001 Woot. ;-) I got it. :-) Well, my password anyways...
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22:56 dcook Allo allo #koha
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22:58 wizzyrea hiyas
22:58 dcook Not too many of us up at this hour I guess ;)
22:59 wizzyrea it's noon here :)
23:00 wizzyrea though the way I slept last night, it's surprising that I'm still up.
23:01 dcook Are you over in Wellington?
23:01 dcook I know what you mean...
23:01 dcook Went to bed around 1, woken up at 2, back to bed around 3
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23:17 dcook Per chance does anyone know how one might transform a Marc object with embedded item data back into raw Marc?
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23:27 gmcharlt dcook: in Perl, my $raw_marc_record = $marc->as_usmarc();
23:28 dcook Hmm, that's what I was thinking. Thanks, gmcharlt :)
23:30 dcook I kept trying "as_usmarc($marc)". Thanks for that proper syntax. Looks great
23:30 dcook The more I use OOP, the more I like it
23:31 dcook Quick question unrelated, gmcharlt. You're active in the perl4lib circles, right? Was that pre-Koha or post-Koha involvement?
23:32 gmcharlt dcook: I become in involved in both about the same time
23:35 dcook Sweet. Was that when you joined Equinox? (I'm only Google-stalking you a bit atm ;) )
23:35 gmcharlt heh
23:35 gmcharlt no, before Equinox I worked for LibLime, which started my involvement in Koha
23:35 dcook I just finished my MLIS and have been a systems librarian for the past year, so I'm always curious about other library technology folk
23:35 dcook Especially in regards to Koha
23:36 dcook Ahhh
23:36 dcook So is your background in CS, LIS, or both?
23:36 * dcook promises to end the 20 questions soon :p
23:36 gmcharlt :)
23:37 gmcharlt both, though I suppose another way of looking at it is that I'm a math major who's student job at university ended up leading directly to my career
23:38 dcook Intriguing! When I decided to get my master's 10 years ago, I never expected to meet so many math majors working in libraries as I have now ;)
23:39 dcook I suppose that's a large part of how I wound up here too. I started working in libraries 6 years ago, and just found technical services to be utterly fascinating. I remember listening to the systems folk talking about writing Perl scripts, and I thought, "I want to do that!"
23:39 gmcharlt yeah, it can get surprisingly addictive
23:42 dcook You're telling me. If I didn't care about the work-life balance, I think I'd spend most of my time learning new things and working on Koha
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