IRC log for #koha, 2012-12-22

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00:31 mib_jlp01w Hello, Whta is the correct command for add a key package for Red Hat, i use the (wget -O- | sudo apt-key add -) AND DONT WORK
00:33 jcamins_away mib_jlp01w: I have no idea. Koha doesn't have any Red Hat packages.
00:36 jcamins_away If you want to install Koha on Red Hat, you have to use the tarball.
00:36 jcamins_away mib_jlp01w: there's a guide that might help:[…]dhat_Enterprise_6
00:36 mib_jlp01w thanks men, let me see that
00:37 jcamins_away mib_jlp01w: there's also[…]n_Centos_6.2_i386
00:37 jcamins_away I think CentOS and Red Hat are very similar.
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09:53 * cait waves
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15:19 druthb @later tell rangi pull requests issued--I hope I did it right!
15:19 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded.
16:01 libsysguy I am sad that I started looking in MakeFile.PL
16:01 libsysguy and I am terrified that I am editing it
16:02 cait ohoh
16:02 cait hi libsysguy :)
16:03 libsysguy heya cait
16:03 libsysguy guess what
16:03 libsysguy jcamins has inspired me to write in nginx install support
16:03 libsysguy lol
16:04 cait inspired? hehe
16:04 cait good luck :)
16:04 libsysguy well I was just sitting around waiting on someone else to do it
16:04 libsysguy then I got tired of waiting
16:05 cait it's a good reason
16:25 libsysguy do you know where to put new package deps
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16:42 * Oak waves
16:46 * cait waves back
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17:10 jcamins_away libsysguy: debian/control
17:10 libsysguy ahh thanks
17:22 cait hi jcamins_away
17:23 * jcamins_away waves from the distance.
17:28 * libsysguy remembers why he quit system administration
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19:04 libsysguy can anybody point me to the part of the install where paths get generated?
19:05 libsysguy for example: how do I know that my install directory for a dev install is /home/elliott as opposed to /home/koha
19:18 jcamins_away Makefile.PL
19:18 jcamins_away It sets the variables so that rewrite-config.PL will replace the placeholders.
19:58 libsysguy ahh
19:59 libsysguy okay
20:11 libsysguy holy moses I feel like this is overly comples
20:11 libsysguy complex*
20:26 jcamins_away Probably.
20:26 jcamins_away Show me what you have so far?
20:30 libsysguy sure, pastebin?
20:30 jcamins_away Yes please.
20:31 libsysguy
20:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #249 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:31 jcamins_away That looks right to me.
20:32 libsysguy
20:33 jcamins_away My one concern with that is the server_name... a lot of people use ports.
20:34 libsysguy yeah, I wasn't sure how to handle that
20:34 libsysguy I know there is the port replacement but I don't think you can just drop a port in the server_name
20:34 jcamins_away I feel like maybe what we need to do is ask the user during Makefile.PL "do you want to use ports or do you want to use DNS?"
20:35 libsysguy well I'm already asking if they want apache or nginx
20:35 libsysguy so that shouldn't be a hard add
20:35 jcamins_away That's my thought too.
20:35 libsysguy of course that will mean touching the apache config as well
20:36 libsysguy I'm more concerned about the install_base atm
20:36 libsysguy I don't think that path is correct
20:37 jcamins_away Definitely not.
20:37 jcamins_away The koha.psgi needs to be a bit more complicated to mount the OPAC correctly, too.
20:38 libsysguy I would agree wtih that
20:38 jcamins_away Not much more. You just need a second line.
20:39 jcamins_away Two lines.
20:39 jcamins_away I forgot the "mount" directive.
20:39 libsysguy to load new paths
20:39 jcamins_away my $intra=Plack::App::CGIBin->new(root => "__INTRANET_CGI_DIR__" );
20:39 jcamins_away And then repeat that replacing intra with opac.
20:39 jcamins_away And a second mount.
20:40 libsysguy and you think all those should go in the same builder?
20:40 jcamins_away I favor that, yes.
20:41 jcamins_away I mean, I suppose there's no reason not to run two server processes.
20:41 libsysguy I'd like to see the differences
20:41 libsysguy but for now I think its safe to keep them in the same container
20:41 jcamins_away There is no difference other than the paths.
20:42 libsysguy right
20:42 libsysguy the difference I could see would be loading static files
20:42 jcamins_away Which is done by nginx.
20:42 libsysguy true
20:43 jcamins_away And we have two separate server directives for nginx.
20:43 libsysguy touche`
20:43 * libsysguy concedes to logic
20:44 libsysguy so
20:45 libsysguy the mounts both point to cgi-bin/koha?
20:45 libsysguy that seems odd
20:45 jcamins_away No.
20:45 jcamins_away OPAC points to cgi-bin/koha/opac
20:45 * libsysguy is looking at koha-httpd.conf
20:46 jcamins_away Yes, that's because it's CGI.
20:46 libsysguy ah
20:46 libsysguy and intranet is cgi-bin/koha/intranet
21:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #37 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:11 jcamins_away Yay! I was number two for signoffs!
21:11 jcamins_away (in 3.10.1)
21:12 libsysguy who was #1?
21:13 jcamins_away rangi.
21:13 libsysguy of course
21:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #249: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/249/
21:17 jenkins_koha druthb: Updated translations for 3.8.8
21:17 libsysguy yayy druthb++
21:18 cait rangi++ rangi++ for 2 releases :)
21:18 libsysguy rangi++++ :p
21:19 druthb :)
21:19 druthb hi
21:19 libsysguy heya Ruthie
21:20 libsysguy I think this is going to be considered a 'large patch'
21:21 * druthb wriggles happily.
21:22 druthb @karma
21:22 huginn druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (712), "oleonard" (605), and "jcamins" (469).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-112), "failed" (-96), and "-" (-69).  You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 2332.
21:22 druthb @most increased
21:22 huginn druthb: "rangi": 717, "oleonard": 610, "jcamins": 471, "wizzyrea": 359, "cait": 345, "gmcharlt": 336, "chris_n": 310, "paul_p": 273, "sekjal": 245, "nengard": 232, "kf": 221, "magnuse": 194, "druthb": 170, "slef": 170, "eythian": 150, "fredericd": 95, "marcelr": 69, "hdl": 69, "biblibre": 65, "mveron": 64, "hdl_laptop": 60, "drojf": 57, "mtj": 56, "tcohen": 56, and "jwagner": 54
21:23 druthb @most decreased
21:23 huginn druthb: "<!": 121, "failed": 96, "-": 72, "ie": 58, "<-": 49, "C4::Search": 32, "[": 22, "windows": 22, "ptfs": 17, "--><!": 14, "liblime": 13, "src="<!": 11, "monday": 10, "-rw-r--r": 10, "marc": 10, "it": 9, "^": 9, "zebra": 9, "me": 8, "--": 8, "oracle": 7, "windchill": 7, "Jared": 6, "word": 6, and " is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. ": 6
21:23 jcamins_away -rw-r--r... awesome!
21:23 * libsysguy just added 5 new install options
21:24 * libsysguy will be hated by sysadmins everywhere
21:24 jcamins_away Who wrote the patch for bug 9278?
21:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9278 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css
21:24 libsysguy oleonard i think
21:24 libsysguy por que?
21:25 jcamins_away Yes, I think so too.
21:25 druthb it is wicked hot in the house now..  canner's on the last half of the first batch. :)
21:25 jcamins_away 'Cause someone changed the author when QAing.
21:25 libsysguy ...
21:25 libsysguy oops
21:25 libsysguy I think I know how that happened
21:25 * jcamins_away fixes it.
21:25 libsysguy thanks
21:25 druthb Some Elliott or other?
21:25 * jcamins_away has trouble seeing how, actually.
21:26 libsysguy well at the time of QA-ing that one I remembered you asked me to update the author into
21:26 libsysguy info*
21:26 libsysguy and I think it pushed it in the ammend
21:26 * libsysguy smiles uneasily
21:26 jcamins lol
21:26 * libsysguy watches for jcamins shank
21:26 * druthb hands jcamins the wiffle bat.
21:27 jcamins Test plans.
21:27 jcamins They are not optional.
21:30 jcamins Okay...
21:35 * cait agrees with the wonderful RM
21:36 * druthb agrees that the RM is wonderful.
21:36 * druthb agrees with the wonderful RM, too
21:39 libsysguy ugh
21:39 libsysguy terminal lockup
21:43 libsysguy I don't understand how I can be connected to my AWS box for days and days and the second there is  a blip in my connection on an RS box I lose the pipe
21:44 jcamins libsysguy: I think you pretty much explained the issue in the lede. :P
21:45 libsysguy lol
21:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #37: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/37/
21:48 jenkins_koha druthb: Updated translations for 3.10.1 release
21:53 libsysguy bug 7167 is commented out of control
21:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements
21:53 jcamins libsysguy: it really is.
21:54 libsysguy I started to QA that one
21:54 libsysguy and gave up
21:54 jcamins I think we're getting close to pushing it, though.
21:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7620: OPACNoResult, Add keyword to query string <[…]4287cf3d8f1afb7d7> / Bug 9169 - Wrap relator code in to allow for CSS customization <[…]0b441e8682c8fb04f> / Bug 9158: correcting whitespace in series (440) display <
21:55 jcamins My gratin is boiling over.
21:57 libsysguy nooo not the gratin
21:58 jcamins Today I learned that rutabagas have a higher water content than potatoes.
22:00 libsysguy i feel like that is only something you could learn from 1) the internet 2) the food channel
22:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #990 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 2 days 8 hr ago)
22:01 jcamins libsysguy: and 3) by boiling over your gratin
22:01 libsysguy heh
22:02 libsysguy so I kept getting permission errors when firing up plack so I've borrowed some code from the script
22:04 jcamins ...
22:04 jcamins it's boiling over again!
22:05 jcamins wtf?
22:05 libsysguy seriously…turn down the heat
22:05 jcamins Gratins are baked
22:05 jcamins And I removed ~1 cup of water.
22:05 jcamins Well, liquid.
22:12 cait remove more?
22:14 jcamins Yeah, it's not boiling over anymore. :)
22:15 * libsysguy crosses fingers that I've gotten all the config stuff right and presses make
22:26 libsysguy the koha-httpd.conf file…do you cp that to sites available or ln s
22:26 * libsysguy hasn't done a full install in awhile
22:27 jcamins I symlink it.
22:27 libsysguy so for nginx I would have to symlink it twice?
22:28 jcamins What?
22:28 jcamins Oh, to put it in sites-available and sites-enabled?
22:28 jcamins Yes.
22:28 libsysguy symlink it to sites-available then link the link to sites enabled
22:28 libsysguy okay
22:30 libsysguy do you link the daemon to init.d?
22:34 jcamins I do, yes.
22:38 libsysguy well…it looks like the config files came out correctly
22:38 libsysguy but nginx doesn't seem to be cooperating
22:40 jcamins Oh?
22:40 libsysguy yeah i can see starman is running on the unix socket
22:40 libsysguy but chrome is saying it can't connect
22:41 jcamins Did you check if nginx is running?
22:41 libsysguy it seems to be
22:41 libsysguy i can see it running in a ps aux
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22:41 jcamins Is it listening? (netstat -a)
22:42 libsysguy and init.d status says its running
22:42 drojf good evening #koha :)
22:42 jcamins Good evening.
22:42 jcamins I'm thinking of sauteeing some leeks.
22:43 libsysguy hmm I see unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     14378653 /home/elliott/koha-dev/var/run/plack/plack.sock
22:43 drojf i just made one kiwi based and one ginger/garlic based habanero sauce
22:43 libsysguy but I don't see anything listeing on 80...
22:43 libsysguy listening*
22:44 drojf so sautee away i say ;)
22:44 jcamins Try restarting nginx.
22:44 jcamins See if you get some sort of error message.
22:45 libsysguy i just commented out the Listen 80; on both servers
22:45 jcamins Like "Oy! You! Idiot! You're missing a curly brace!"
22:45 jcamins What are you listening with?
22:45 libsysguy nope no errors
22:45 jcamins What are you doing?
22:45 libsysguy heh
22:45 libsysguy
22:46 jcamins Hm.
22:47 jcamins I thought nginx had listen *blocks*.
22:48 libsysguy like the / and @ plack block?
22:48 libsysguy
22:50 drojf almost close to what you are talking about but not really: for running mediawiki locally on a notebook, should i consider the pain (?) of learning nginx configuration or just go with apache? i assmume nginex would eat up a lot less resources?
22:50 drojf "assume nginx" even
22:51 libsysguy its really not that much of a pain
22:51 libsysguy its just a little different
22:51 libsysguy it'd be like running postgres vs mysql
22:51 drojf but is it that much better or just a little?
22:51 libsysguy same basic concept, different way of going about it
22:51 libsysguy well it is certainly faster in  *most* situations
22:52 libsysguy as far as I've seen
22:52 drojf because with packages mediawiki is installed in 5 minutes (and brings apache), for nginx i would have to see
22:52 libsysguy what is mediawiki written in?
22:52 drojf php
22:52 drojf dont know if other things too
22:52 libsysguy[…]-fpm-apc-awesome/
22:53 libsysguy more relivant
22:54 libsysguy shoot, Its 5, I gotta get
22:54 drojf yeah i have seen the latter, that did not look to scary
22:54 libsysguy jcamins++ for the help today
22:54 libsysguy more on monday :p
22:54 libsysguy cya
22:54 drojf bye libsysguy_afk
22:55 * drojf contemplates trying cold leftover pheasant with fresh kiwi habanero sauce
22:57 jcamins That sounds delicious.
22:57 jcamins drojf: I'd say it's probably not worth bothering with nginx on a local installation.
22:58 jcamins How much load would there really be?
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23:01 drojf not much. one client. i'm setting up a wiki for my mom, with computer stuff she already knows but forgets from time to time, some new things and as a place to add things herself. she got her first computer a year ago
23:03 jcamins Cool!
23:03 jcamins drojf's_mother++
23:04 drojf wait until you hear she uses debain and writes encrypted emails. it's much easier to teach people that have never been using windows :)
23:05 jcamins Heh. I believe it.
23:05 drojf my dad has been working with computer for decades and will never leave windows.
23:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #990: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/990/
23:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9136: C4::Tags not Plack-compatible
23:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9151 follow-up: correct name in sysprefs.sql
23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9140 - Untranslatable strings in item circulation history
23:07 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9140: Followup removes the useless variable $message
23:07 jenkins_koha * Bug 9105: Move Z3950 search code to Breeding module
23:07 jenkins_koha * Bug 9105: Housekeeping followup
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9136 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , C4::Tags not Plack-compatible
23:07 jenkins_koha * Bug 9105: Second housekeeping followup
23:07 jenkins_koha * z.tajoli: Bug 9112 : update of Italian SQL files
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9151 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences
23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9278 - Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css
23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8955 - Self checkout should degrade gracefully with JavaScript turned off
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9140 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable strings in item circulation history
23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8955 [Follow-up] Self checkout should degrade gracefully w/o JavaScript
23:07 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 9158: correcting whitespace in series (440) display
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9105 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Moving Z3950 search code to
23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9169 - Wrap relator code in <span> to allow for CSS customization
23:07 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 7620: OPACNoResult, Add keyword to query string
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9112 normal, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Update of SQL file for italian setup
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9278 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8955 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Self checkout should degrade gracefully with JavaScript turned off
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9158 minor, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Master , Correcting whitespace around display of series 440 marc fields
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9169 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Wrap relator code in <span> to allow for CSS customization
23:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7620 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , OPACNoResult, add search string to available parameters
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23:09 drojf uh german translation not done. lousy, lazy drojf
23:10 drojf why are there file paths in the translation?!
23:10 drojf pootle is a stange beast
23:12 cait lazy translators indeed
23:14 drojf hi cait :)
23:15 cait hi drojf
23:20 drojf english: 'religious text' -> german: 'Delicious'. omnomnom.
23:21 jcamins drojf: really?
23:21 cait ah I thought ai had translate that earlier
23:21 cait are you looking at 3.8?
23:21 drojf yes
23:21 cait i did some work on 3.10, but was already too late
23:21 drojf 3.8 is only a little
23:21 drojf can't do 3.10 tonight
23:21 cait I have too injured finger tips
23:21 drojf an option to ignore startcaps would help
23:21 cait not typing translations tonight
23:22 drojf oh what did you do?
23:22 cait grating radish for a salad...
23:23 jcamins drojf: she was making finger salad.
23:23 drojf ouch :(
23:23 cait hpmf
23:24 cait yeah
23:27 cait s/too/two
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