IRC log for #koha, 2012-12-21

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00:25 Brooke o/
00:25 jcamins o/
00:25 Brooke okie smarties
00:25 Brooke anyone on use Blacklight with Koha?
00:25 jcamins I don't.
00:26 Brooke specifically, I'm looking at a forced query involving batch exports from Koha > Blacklight
00:26 jcamins There's a Blacklight connector, I think, so someone must.
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04:43 wajasu now that i finally got all my biblios linked with all my authorities just right, the end of the world seems to have arrived.
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06:23 cait Morning all
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06:44 magnuse happy solstice, #koha!
06:49 cait1 hi magnuse :)
06:52 magnuse hiya cait1
06:53 magnuse hm, the last thing wajasu said was "the end of the world seems to have arrived" - that's kind of ominous...
06:53 magnuse @wunder boo
06:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (7:20 AM CET on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
06:53 magnuse windchill--
06:53 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (7:30 AM CET on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
06:54 magnuse ooh, not too hot!
06:58 cait1 @wunder Konstanz
06:58 huginn cait1: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Friedrichshafen DE, Friedrichshafen, Germany is 2.8°C (7:35 AM CET on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
06:58 cait1 friedrichshafen... really?
06:59 cait1 that's on the other side of the lake!
07:00 magnuse lake shmake, it's all in germany, right? ;-)
07:00 cait1 yes, still germany, but normally I get my weather from switzerland :)
07:01 magnuse ah, german weather isn't good enough for you? it has to be imported?
07:04 cait1 lol
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07:40 alex_a_ bonjour
07:40 wahanui hello, alex_a_
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07:41 reiveune hello
07:41 wahanui salut, reiveune
07:43 magnuse bonjour france!
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08:04 gaetan_B hello
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08:21 francharb good morning #koha
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08:44 magnuse kia ora qam!
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08:51 kf kia ora bug wrangler
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09:03 drojf kf: you called? ;)
09:04 magnuse @later tell jcamins: you might want to have another look at the last sentence on http://www.jaredcamins.com/ :-)
09:04 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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09:11 kf drojf: go to work :P
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09:12 drojf kf: heh. no. i should start to pack
09:12 kf how long will you be gone? :)
09:12 drojf don't know yet. a week at least, have not bought a ticket back yet
09:13 drojf i will take my notebook and tablet so i might show up here from time to time. santa signoff or something ;)
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09:19 kf drojf: cool. same for me - laptop and tablet... hehe
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09:33 magnuse kf: ooh, you got yourself a tablet at last?
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09:45 kf magnuse: I did :)
09:45 kf magnuse: shiny asus transformer, I like it a lot, but it still needs some tweaking
09:45 kf magnuse: rangi recommended a good irc app yesterday and I am starting to figure out mail clients :)
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09:52 magnuse kf: yay!
10:00 magnuse and it's probably excellent for reading e-books :-)
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10:05 vfernandes hello
10:08 kf magnuse: that's antoher thing I have to figure out yet :)
10:08 kf magnuse: but christmas holidays are a good time to play with new toys
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10:14 kf hi vfernandes
10:14 magnuse kf: yup
10:16 kf magnuse: what are your plans?
10:16 magnuse for xmas? eat good food and relax :-=
10:17 magnuse huh? s/:-=/:-)/
10:17 kf do you have a christmas tree?
10:17 magnuse not yet, but we will try to get one today. a small one
10:17 kf :)
10:18 kf i persuaded my dad we needed one too this year
10:18 kf with the little nephews being around
10:18 magnuse oh yes!
10:19 magnuse i don't expect leonard to fully grasp the concept of the xmas tree yet, but next year is another story...
10:19 kf :)
10:19 kf small christmas tree, small leonard
10:19 kf makes perfect sense to me
10:24 magnuse hehe
10:24 magnuse might end up with a big tree if we keep up with that logic :-)
10:27 magnuse gah, the problem with double itemtypes persists...
10:39 magnuse ah, i think i found it: when i migrated the data i managed to add one 942 field per ite, and the multiple 942s are confusing the form for adding new items, which tries to guess the y subfield based on what is in 942...
10:39 kf aaha
10:47 magnuse pebcak
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10:49 gerundio hi, good morning
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12:09 vfernandes finally koha 3.8 staff client 100% completed in portugues - http://200.16.16.190/pt/38/ :D
12:16 jcamins_away vfernandes++
12:16 jcamins magnuse: am I ever not happy to discuss bibliography?
12:18 jcamins :)
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12:32 vfernandes only system preferences are remaining
12:32 vfernandes :)
12:32 jcamins vfernandes: oh, you're here.
12:32 jcamins I have a question.
12:33 jcamins Bug 9151.
12:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9151 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Passed QA , Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences
12:33 jcamins Why did you choose to use a syspref instead of just adding another line to the EnhancedMessaging table?
12:36 vfernandes because a renewal notice it's like a item checkout notice so it could use the same entrie in EnhancedMessaging table
12:36 vfernandes that's the only reason
12:37 vfernandes renewal = new checkout
12:37 jcamins Okay.
12:37 jcamins The feature works great, I was just surprised there was a syspref instead of another option for patrons.
12:38 jcamins paul_p: around?
12:38 vfernandes I think it's a good and nice new feature
12:45 paul_p jcamins yes ?
12:45 * paul_p plan to QA this afternoon (then 1 week AFK, see you next year !!!)
12:45 * chris_n will be 1 wk afk on 21 dec :)
12:46 jcamins paul_p: I would like to push 7167.
12:46 jcamins When I do that, I will need to give instructions.
12:46 jcamins So that people use the new upgrade procedure.
12:46 jcamins Have you written anything?
12:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Add Nadia Nicolaides to history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]06dd8e0c40d14c0e6> / Follow-up Bug 5634: Ordering branches should be case independent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed07999945ec10cd5> / Bug 9151: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff;h=dd754c3108dd
13:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #988 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:02 vfernandes yes another patch pushed :)
13:02 vfernandes ohhh in this patches I forgot to set the sponsored-by label in the commit comment
13:03 vfernandes Sponsored-by: KEEP SOLUTIONS
13:03 vfernandes :D
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13:07 jcamins vfernandes: it only need to appear once per release.
13:08 paul_p jcamins, sorry, was called for a quick & unexpected meeting.
13:08 jcamins No problem.
13:08 jcamins I actually have been in the other room for the past twenty minutes.
13:08 jcamins I realized that we had some resource contention, so I was pre-empting the shower. ;)
13:09 paul_p jcamins nope, I haven't written anything about the upgrade procedure, sorry
13:09 jcamins Want to? :)
13:09 paul_p jcamins = pushing bug 7167 will be  a great chrismas gift for joubu & me (cc clrh)
13:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements
13:09 * jcamins thinks it will be a good Christmas gift for all involved.
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13:14 clrh \o/
13:14 clrh jcamins++
13:15 jcamins If someone wants to draft instructions for database updates, that will greatly smooth the inclusion of 7167.
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13:16 jcamins Oh, drat.
13:16 jcamins I just thought of a problem.
13:16 jcamins Is there a way to run the updates from the command line?
13:19 paul_p jcamins = yes, let me found it
13:20 paul_p jcamins admin/updatedatabase.pl --all or something like that iirc
13:21 jcamins Thanks.
13:21 druthb installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
13:22 paul_p druthb = jcamins was asking "how to run the updates from the command line *with bug 7167*" ;-)
13:22 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements
13:22 druthb oh.
13:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9260: stop koha-run-backups complaining "missing ]" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb7f553969b7e792e>
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13:26 Joubu hi #koha
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13:26 kf hi Joubu - merry christmas
13:26 kf and merry christmas to oleonard :)
13:27 Joubu hi kf, thanks
13:27 oleonard Thanks kf :)
13:27 Joubu Jared, paul_p tells me you have a Christmas' gift for me ?
13:27 Joubu :)
13:31 jcamins Joubu: yeah, I plan to push 7167.
13:32 * paul_p stop QAing patches with an updatedatabase, waiting for instructions from jared after bug 7167 has been pushed
13:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements
13:32 * paul_p head to QA other patches though (and there are many...)
13:32 jcamins I think I'll probably do it tonight, since I have to write up instructions.
13:33 Joubu jcamins: cool :)
13:36 Joubu jcamins: There was a script (installer/data/mysql/update.pl), but I don't find it anymore...
13:36 jcamins Joubu: paul_p said admin/updatedatabase.pl --all will do it.
13:36 jcamins I'll confirm before I push.
13:37 Joubu jcamins: it is misc/bin/updatedb.pl
13:38 Joubu with the --all option
13:39 jcamins Thanks.
13:39 Joubu misc/bin/updatedb.pl called with the -l option lists all versions (available and already applied)
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13:44 jcamins paul_p: you can continue QAing patches with DB updates.
13:44 jcamins For patches currently in Bugzilla, I'll grandfather them in, and move the updates prior to testing.
13:46 paul_p jcamins = but how will I QA patches with updatedatabase old & the new one pushed ?
13:46 paul_p jcamins = but how will I QA patches with the old updatedatabase & the new updatedb pushed ?
13:51 jcamins Good question.
13:51 jcamins Well, you can certainly test patches with database updates today. :)
13:52 jcamins I'll have to think about how to do it after that.
13:53 jcamins I don't want to request new patches for everything.
13:56 jcamins paul_p: those are libsysguy's patches.
13:56 jcamins (DBIx::Class)
13:56 * jcamins heads into the city.
13:57 paul_p jcamins_away = i've asked a question about dbix::class. We must be very carefull before adding this patch & coordinate work
14:04 wajasu so are we starting to use Moose via DBIx::Class
14:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #988: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/988/
14:07 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 9235 - Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh
14:07 jenkins_koha * vfernandes: BUG 9151 - Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences
14:07 jenkins_koha * vfernandes: BUG 9151 - Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences (Patch 2)
14:07 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9151 - Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences - QA Followup - Fix DB Revs & Grammar
14:07 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9151 follow-up: fr-FR translated to french
14:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh
14:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9151: Increment version number
14:07 jenkins_koha * nanunic: Follow-up Bug 5634: Ordering branches should be case independent
14:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9151 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences
14:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Add Nadia Nicolaides to history
14:07 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Ordering branches should be case independent
14:07 jenkins_koha Starting build #989 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 1 day 0 hr ago)
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14:15 magnuse @later tell jcamins: probably happy *to* talk, yes ;-)
14:15 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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14:18 fredericd About biblio DOM indexing: Are you sure that coded fields (008 for ex. in MARC21) are properly indexed?
14:18 fredericd My tests say no
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14:40 tcohen jcamins, is there a chance bug 9209 gets pushed before a new calendar problem arises?
14:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9209 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Mocked Koha::Calendar tests
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15:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #989: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/989/
15:14 jenkins_koha mjr: Bug 9260: stop koha-run-backups complaining "missing ]"
15:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9260 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , koha-run-backups complains "[: 97: missing ]"
15:18 jcamins magnuse: argh! Thanks.
15:18 jcamins tcohen: you should send an e-mail to koha-devel requesting that someone please QA it.
15:18 jcamins wajasu: no, we are not using Moose.
15:19 tcohen jcamins, doing it, thanks
15:20 jcamins libsysguy: please address paul_p's question regarding DBIx::Class.
15:21 kf wajasu: no Moose
15:22 jcamins And unlike in the book "But no elephants," I will not be relenting.
15:24 libsysguy what is paul_p's question?
15:24 jcamins libsysguy: I don't know. Check the bug.
15:24 libsysguy I'm reading it
15:24 paul_p libsysguy = look at bug 8798
15:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Signed Off , Add the use of DBIx::Class
15:25 libsysguy I don't see a question
15:25 gerundio hey guys
15:25 gerundio when we activate EnhancedMessagingPreferences
15:25 jcamins Oh, I didn't actually read the bug. I just saw that Paul was requesting feedback from wajasu.
15:25 gerundio Koha messaging system is activated
15:26 gerundio but all new users that are created don't have any checked option from default
15:26 paul_p well, I made a mistake, it's not wajasu, but libsysguy. Sorry, got mad with nicks.
15:26 gerundio so they will not receive notifications unless they change their preferences, right?
15:26 jcamins You can set category defaults.
15:27 jcamins paul_p: yeah, that's why I pointed it out to libsysguy. I figured he might not notice, since the Bugzilla e-mails don't include much in the way of context.
15:27 libsysguy haha yeah no they don't
15:27 jcamins gerundio: yes. Unless you set category defaults.
15:27 libsysguy what do you mean by a shared effort paul_p
15:27 gerundio jcamins, where can I set the category defaults?
15:27 paul_p libsysguy = what I want to say in my comment is that I think/feel the but 8798 is included in what I made in bug 8309, and I think I made more in 8309.
15:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8309 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Koha namespace organisation, first implementation
15:28 jcamins gerundio: good question.
15:28 jcamins Ummm... Patron categories in the Administration module?
15:28 libsysguy paul_p you're correct
15:28 libsysguy I had almost considered deleting my patch in favor of yours
15:28 gerundio jcamins, got it
15:29 gerundio just found it too
15:29 gerundio thanks :D
15:29 libsysguy I don't think either of them are going anywhere paul_p jcamins until plack gets in and is stable
15:29 paul_p libsysguy = you don't consider plack as stable yet ? (we've it in test at one of our customer)
15:30 paul_p libsysguy = + why are you saying that ?
15:30 jcamins paul_p: right now it requires extensive manual configuration.
15:30 libsysguy ^^
15:30 libsysguy I was trying to figure out how to say that
15:30 gerundio in the patron edit form, under "Patron messaging preferences" there a message stating "If no preferences are selected, the default preferences for the category chosen will be applied on save, otherwise your selection here is saved"
15:31 jcamins gerundio: right.
15:31 gerundio I just change the category of one patron and the preferences remained the same
15:31 paul_p libsysguy = I think/bet you say they won't go anywhere  because of the loading a DBIx::schema cost a lot, right (in this case, I agree with you)
15:31 jcamins gerundio: did you change the defaults?
15:31 gerundio the expected behavior would be for them to change according to the categories settings
15:31 gerundio yeap
15:32 jcamins I don't think the defaults are reset when you edit a patron, though.
15:32 jcamins Just when you create a new one.
15:32 jcamins However, I don't know for sure.
15:32 jcamins I rarely use messaging.
15:32 oleonard I think that's correct jcamins
15:32 libsysguy paul_p we are going to have to get away from CGI before we should pursue them
15:32 oleonard gerundio: Just as changing the defaults doesn't update the preferences of existing patrons
15:33 jcamins Or at least make it possible for the average end user to choose between Plack/CGI easily.
15:33 gerundio oleonard, I get that but the message clearly states
15:33 gerundio "If no preferences are selected, the default preferences for the category chosen will be applied on save, otherwise your selection here is saved"
15:33 gerundio I selected no preferences
15:33 jcamins gerundio: sounds like a bug you should report.
15:33 jcamins That message should only appear when creating a new patron.
15:33 gerundio so the default preferences for the chosen category should apply
15:34 gerundio I like the idea of this happening when we edit the patron
15:34 gerundio so that prefrences get updated according to the new assigned category
15:34 jcamins In that case, you should file a bug about the fact that it doesn't, and there could be a checkbox to reset the messaging preferences to the default.
15:36 * gerundio filing bug
15:40 gerundio bug 9314
15:40 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9314 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Messaging preferences not updated to category defaults on patron edit
15:43 kf gerundio: no, that can not happen without asking the patron for consent (automatically)
15:43 kf gerundio: the update of the prefs
15:43 jcamins That's why it should be a checkbox not done on edit.
15:43 kf it should safe the default when you create a new patron - but never update them automatically after it
15:43 kf ok
15:43 kf sorry,
15:43 * kf goes back tow rok
15:43 jcamins :)
15:49 gerundio changing the subject: Google Analytics
15:49 gerundio to include the snippet I have to add it in opacuserjs?
15:49 jcamins Yes.
15:49 oleonard gerundio: Where is the message you're talking about? "If no preferences are selected...?"
15:50 gerundio oleonard, in the patron edit form
15:50 gerundio you have to have the EnhancedMessagingPreferences syspref set to Allow
15:51 oleonard I do, but I see no message
15:52 oleonard Oh, it's only on edit.
15:53 oleonard I wonder if it was supposed to appear only on patron creation instead?
15:53 jcamins I think that is the case.
15:53 jcamins Certainly changing it on edit would be unacceptable.
15:54 * kf agrees
15:55 gerundio jcamins, I have a different opinion on that matter
15:55 kf time to leave for christmas holidays :) bye all
15:55 gerundio merry christmas kf
15:55 oleonard Bye kf!
15:55 kf merry christmas everyone :)
15:55 jcamins gerundio: you can make it optional, but if the patron wanted to disable the messages, it is not acceptable for the software to disallow that.
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15:56 gerundio jcamins, sure, but I don't think that's the point here... at least not as I see it
15:56 gerundio see my case
15:56 gerundio I have LDAP auth that assigns the patrons to C1
15:56 gerundio which at the moment has no messaging preferences set
15:57 jcamins I can see how it would be useful. That's why a checkbox is a good idea.
15:57 gerundio when the librarian sets the correct category to the patron, let's call it C2
15:57 gerundio which has messaging preferences set
15:57 jcamins Right. The librarian should be able to say "reset to default messaging preferences."
15:57 gerundio if the patron has no preferences set, it could get the default category preferences
15:58 gerundio which is what the message states
15:58 gerundio in this case, no one ever changed the preferences
15:58 jcamins It turns out the message is showing up when it shouldn't, and not showing up when it should.
15:59 jcamins So there are two bug report-worthy issues: 1) the test for deciding whether to show the message is backwards, and 2) it should be possible to reset messaging preferences to the category default.
16:03 gerundio jcamins, the message is not presented on the new patron form
16:03 gerundio new question about this
16:03 jcamins Right.
16:03 jcamins That's bug number 1.
16:03 gerundio lets say C2 is the default category assigned to a new patron
16:03 jcamins And that's just a bug.
16:03 jcamins There's also an enhancement request.
16:03 gerundio and C2 has messaging preferences set
16:04 jcamins I understand the issue.
16:04 jcamins I am telling you how it has to be addressed for the patch to be accepted.
16:04 gerundio when I click New patron the form shows me the C2 messaging preferences
16:04 oleonard The message appears when this test is true: if ($category_type){ $template->{VARS}->'type_only'} = 1; }
16:04 jcamins jcamins?
16:04 wahanui you are probably RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search.
16:04 jcamins jcamins?
16:04 wahanui i think jcamins is the brilliant and irascible President of the United States.
16:04 jcamins jcamins?
16:04 wahanui you are too young to be the President of the United States.  Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election.
16:04 jcamins jcamins?
16:04 wahanui you are RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search.
16:04 gerundio if I change the category what is expected to happen?
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16:04 jcamins Oh for crying out loud.
16:04 jcamins gerundio: nothing.
16:04 wahanui nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though
16:04 jcamins jcamins?
16:04 wahanui 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!"
16:05 jcamins Okay, who changed what wahanui knows about me?
16:05 jcamins jcamins?
16:05 wahanui 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!"
16:05 * jcamins gives up.
16:05 jcamins I think I'll blame druthb.
16:05 jcamins I liked the "jcamins is very, very irascible" message!
16:05 * jcamins tries one more time.
16:05 jcamins jcamins?
16:05 wahanui you are, like, brilliant
16:05 jcamins jcamins?
16:05 wahanui you are probably RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search.
16:05 jcamins Two more times, apparently.
16:06 gerundio so if I create a new patron, assign it a different category which messaging preferences will he get?
16:06 jcamins Okay, never mind.
16:06 * druthb takes the blame.
16:06 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
16:06 druthb jcamins?
16:06 wahanui 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!"
16:06 reiveune bye
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16:06 jcamins gerundio: your new patron will receive the default messaging preferences of the category which he was originally created with.
16:06 jcamins Even if it was the wrong category.
16:06 gerundio even if the form show other category preferences :)
16:07 gerundio no matter which category I choose it will always show the default preferences
16:07 jcamins Oh, if you make a selection of which messages to appear, those messaging preferences will be set up.
16:07 gerundio not talking about making changes to the preferences
16:08 gerundio just the category
16:08 gerundio if I change the preferences by hand I expect them to be created accordingly, right?
16:08 jcamins Exactly.
16:08 jcamins The only way to change the preferences right now is by hand. Which is why we need a checkbox so you can change them to the new defaults with a single click.
16:09 gerundio but if I don't change the preferences, then the patron will get the category defaults
16:09 gerundio sure, sounds good
16:09 gerundio what I'm saying now is more of a UI issue
16:10 gerundio I think that the "it's not an issue it's a feature" answer can apply here :D
16:10 jcamins Yes, sounds like it.
16:10 gerundio the only way to show the librarian the updated messaging preferences when we change the category
16:11 gerundio would be to add some JS with a server request to get them and update the values in the table
16:11 jcamins Right. And that would be even awesomer.
16:11 jcamins :)
16:11 gerundio :)
16:12 gerundio can you help me setting up Google Analytics?
16:12 gerundio I added the JS snippet on opacuserjs
16:13 jcamins I'm actually not entirely sure how GA works.
16:13 jcamins I *think* you just have to add the JS, though.
16:13 gerundio but now on OPAC I see "//]]>" on the top left
16:13 jcamins And wait a few hours for the data to show up in Google.
16:13 jcamins Okay, that's not supposed to happen.
16:13 gerundio yes, that the normal workflow
16:14 jcamins Sounds like you're missing a semicolon in your opacuserjs. Could you paste it to paste.koha-community.org?
16:14 gerundio the problem here is that the GA snippet is not showing up in the OPAC source code when the pages are rendered
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16:15 Joubu bye
16:15 Joubu merry christmas :)
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16:15 pastebot "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "GA JS snippet" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/322
16:16 jcamins You shouldn't have the script tags.
16:16 jcamins opacuserjs is *just* for Javascript.
16:16 gerundio ohhh
16:16 gerundio it was a plain copy+paste from GA form
16:17 gerundio looks good now
16:17 gerundio jcamins++
16:17 gerundio thanks
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16:25 oleonard The check for category_type seems to be there in case you have  AddPatronLists set to 'category_type' instead of 'categorycode,' since in that situation the interface can't pull defaults because it doesn't know the category yet
16:26 oleonard So really the message should only appear if type_only is true *and* it's a new patron
16:32 jcamins BTW, http://search.cpan.org/dist/Template-Plugin-MARC/
16:33 jcamins @later tell magnuse For your convenience with preparing digital signage: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Template-Plugin-MARC/
16:33 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
16:34 jcamins huginn: messages
16:34 huginn jcamins: I suck
16:34 jcamins @messages
16:34 huginn jcamins: I've exhausted my database of quotes
16:34 oleonard Happy holiday vacations everyone!
16:34 * oleonard heads out
16:37 druthb @quote random
16:37 huginn druthb: Quote #195: "jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. I think he only programs when hungry." (added by wizzyrea at 06:12 PM, March 30, 2012)
16:37 druthb lol
16:37 libsysguy heh
16:40 * cait waves
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16:51 gmcharlt @quote random
16:51 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010)
16:53 druthb @quote random
16:53 huginn druthb: Quote #152: "gmcharlt: Koha: unifying the world one library at a time" (added by wizzyrea at 02:19 PM, September 13, 2011)
16:54 cait1 @quote random
16:54 huginn cait1: Quote #146: "rangi: when I was at brendans house we went to the farmers market and bought lots of almonds which I had to eat on the plane, cos can't bringthem into nz, so I was offering ppl nuts on the plane. cait: makes sense rangi: if its sensible for a crazy nzer to be waving almonds in ur face at 3am, then yes" (added by wizzyrea at 08:03 PM, July 28, 2011)
16:54 cait1 hehe
16:54 gmcharlt heh
16:54 druthb hee hee
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17:08 tcohen hi cait1
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17:09 cait1 hi tcohen
17:09 tcohen it worked, your method... worked
17:09 cait1 hm?
17:11 cait1 oh :)
17:13 jcamins What worked?
17:16 cait1 my RM trick
17:16 jcamins Ah.
17:16 jcamins Right.
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18:25 gerundio time to go
18:25 gerundio happy hollidays everyone
18:25 gerundio see you back in January 2013
18:26 tcohen me too
18:26 tcohen happy holidays #koha, see u soon
18:26 cait1 merry christmas and happy holidays tcohen
18:27 tcohen thanks cait1
18:39 rambutan @seen wizzyrea
18:39 huginn rambutan: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 day, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: * wizzyrea notices this on new tv's and always has to turn off the color correction that does it
18:40 gmcharlt @wunder duluth, ga
18:40 huginn gmcharlt: The current temperature in Bromolow Ridge, Duluth, Georgia is 6.9°C (1:39 PM EST on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening...
18:43 rambutan @later tell wizzrea "You know you missed a big freezing rain/sleet/snowstorm, right?" http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2[…]ltitude-problems/
18:43 huginn rambutan: The operation succeeded.
18:44 druthb @wunder 66046
18:44 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 1.6°C (12:43 PM CST on December 21, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Falling).
18:46 jcamins @query dom
18:46 huginn jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8802 minor, P4, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library group records - category type reverts to "searchdomain" when editing group record
18:47 huginn jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9244 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Authorities sorting should take subdivisions into account thanks to DOM
18:47 huginn jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib
18:47 huginn jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8115 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , DOM indexing configuration should compute totalissues from items.issues
18:47 huginn jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8252 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Error in DOM biblio for UNIMARC (no range for fields 1xx)
18:57 * jcamins loves the fact that this man appears to have gone equally by "Gottlieb" and "Theophilus."
19:06 cait1 lol
19:06 cait1 jcamins: german again?
19:06 jcamins cait1: the book is in Latin.
19:06 jcamins Nice and easy. :P
19:14 rangi morning
19:14 cait1 morning rangi
19:15 rangi jcamins: :#   Failed test 'Syspref RenewalSendNotices exists in the database'
19:15 rangi the updatedatabase sets it to RenewalSendNotice
19:15 cait1 that's why I don't like the qa script
19:15 jcamins It sets it to RenewalSendNotice?
19:15 rangi yep
19:15 jcamins I think I must've done that when pushing, because it worked when I tested.
19:15 rangi but the .pref is Notices
19:16 rangi $dbh->do("INSERT INTO systempreferences (variable,value,options,explanation,type) VALUES('RenewalSendNotice', '0', '', NULL, 'YesNo')");
19:16 rangi so that's an easy fix
19:16 jcamins Yep.
19:16 jcamins I'll do it this evening.
19:19 rangi druthb: when you get a chance could you do a pull request for the .po files (as the world didnt end I should do a release )
19:19 jcamins lol
19:19 cait1 lol
19:19 druthb Sure thing, rangi.  Tonight okay?
19:19 rangi yep that's fine :)
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19:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #247 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:58 rangi https://twitter.com/ibeardslee[…]951271424/photo/1
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20:00 jcamins Did you have the right kind of crackers for clearing your palate?
20:00 jcamins Apparently there are different kinds of flavorless crackers depending on the type of liquor you're tasting.
20:02 cait1 ?
20:04 rangi we had bread and hot chips
20:05 cait1 oh for the whisky tasting
20:08 jcamins I actually read a recipe for crackers that were remembered "for between courses when savoring hard liquor."
20:09 jcamins *recommended
20:09 rangi :)
20:09 jcamins I've been making the weirdest typos lately.
20:09 rangi i think we need to string::random to the dependencies for debian in master at some point
20:10 rangi (the tests fail without it)
20:10 rangi so package build on master fails
20:10 jcamins We do, but I thought I pushed a follow-up that added it?
20:10 cait1 you can't create a new user without it
20:10 rangi oh, hmm so it should be moved to required
20:11 rangi hmm lemme check, launchpad is grizzling (it does a daily build)
20:11 jcamins Yeah, required.
20:11 rangi hm nope not in debian/control afaict
20:12 jcamins Ohhh.
20:12 jcamins Right.
20:12 jcamins Only eythian can generate debian/control.
20:12 jcamins I tried it once to disastrous results.
20:12 rangi ahh ill get him to do that :)
20:12 jcamins It _should_ be marked required, too.
20:13 cait1 yep totally
20:14 jcamins Bug 7844
20:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , plack scripts for developers
20:18 * rangi heads out to do some shopping
20:22 * jcamins heads home before it starts storming.
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20:38 slef could someone QA bug 9260 please? I'd love to stem the tide of "this package emails errors daily"
20:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9260 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , koha-run-backups complains "[: 97: missing ]"
20:38 slef oh wait... Pushed to Stable
20:38 slef I think it's moved since this morning
20:39 slef yep... thanks everyone
20:39 slef now to see how I mangled the patch for http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9296
20:39 huginn Bug 9296: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Patch doesn't apply , overduerules table needs restructuring to allow future extension
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20:56 libsysguy hey paul_p just the guy I was looking for
20:57 libsysguy you said you were running plack in prod…are you using the scripts from the wiki?
20:57 paul_p libsysguy sorry, but i'm not really here. Checking bank account with my wife
20:57 libsysguy oh my bad
20:57 libsysguy hope he didn't buy too much french wine
20:57 libsysguy :p
20:59 slef bah who needs a bank account to buy french wine
20:59 slef very cheap
20:59 slef :p
20:59 libsysguy hehe today I learned I need to go to france...soon
21:01 slef why?
21:01 libsysguy cheap wine…the only place to get really cheap wine around here is trader joes
21:02 libsysguy they call it 2 buck chuck :p
21:02 slef oh I didn't say the cheap stuff was any good :p
21:02 libsysguy neither is 2 buck chuck :p
21:02 slef chuck-up?
21:02 libsysguy only once
21:02 libsysguy heh
21:02 slef back much later anyway... I can't figure out this code so I think I'll rewrite it
21:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #247: SUCCESS in 1 hr 18 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/247/
21:04 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8843 [3.8.x] Cannot export bibliographic records by call number
21:04 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: SIGNED-OFF] bug 8382: It is not possible to cancel an order on a filtered page in parcel.pl
21:04 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8382 [Follow-up] It is not possible to cancel an order when receiving on a filtered page in parcel.pl
21:04 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8878 - a command to provide a shell with the koha environment
21:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8843 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Cannot export bibliographic records by call number
21:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8382 normal, P1 - high, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Stable , It is not possible to cancel an order when receiving on a filtered page in parcel.pl
21:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell: a command to make using koha commands easier
21:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #248 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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21:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #35: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/35/
21:09 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8878 - a command to provide a shell with the koha environment
21:09 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 9235 - Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh
21:09 jenkins_koha * mjr: Bug 9260: stop koha-run-backups complaining "missing ]"
21:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8878 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell: a command to make using koha commands easier
21:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9235 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Hardcoded values in cronjobs/backup.sh
21:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9260 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , koha-run-backups complains "[: 97: missing ]"
21:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #36 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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22:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #248: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/248/
22:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping version for release
22:19 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Release notes for 3.8.8
22:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #36: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/36/
22:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bump version for release
22:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: 3.10.1 release notes
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