Time Nick Message 23:27 cait s/too/two 23:24 cait yeah 23:23 cait hpmf 23:23 drojf ouch :( 23:23 jcamins drojf: she was making finger salad. 23:22 cait grating radish for a salad... 23:22 drojf oh what did you do? 23:21 cait not typing translations tonight 23:21 drojf an option to ignore startcaps would help 23:21 cait I have too injured finger tips 23:21 drojf can't do 3.10 tonight 23:21 drojf 3.8 is only a little 23:21 cait i did some work on 3.10, but was already too late 23:21 drojf yes 23:21 cait are you looking at 3.8? 23:21 cait ah I thought ai had translate that earlier 23:21 jcamins drojf: really? 23:20 drojf english: 'religious text' -> german: 'Delicious'. omnomnom. 23:15 cait hi drojf 23:14 drojf hi cait :) 23:12 cait lazy translators indeed 23:10 drojf pootle is a stange beast 23:10 drojf why are there file paths in the translation?! 23:09 drojf uh german translation not done. lousy, lazy drojf 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7620 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , OPACNoResult, add search string to available parameters 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9169 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Wrap relator code in <span> to allow for CSS customization 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9158 minor, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Master , Correcting whitespace around display of series 440 marc fields 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8955 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Self checkout should degrade gracefully with JavaScript turned off 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9278 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9112 normal, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Update of SQL file for italian setup 23:07 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 7620: OPACNoResult, Add keyword to query string 23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9169 - Wrap relator code in <span> to allow for CSS customization 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9105 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Moving Z3950 search code to Breeding.pm 23:07 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 9158: correcting whitespace in series (440) display 23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8955 [Follow-up] Self checkout should degrade gracefully w/o JavaScript 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9140 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Untranslatable strings in item circulation history 23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8955 - Self checkout should degrade gracefully with JavaScript turned off 23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9278 - Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9151 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Renewal notice according to patron alert preferences 23:07 jenkins_koha * z.tajoli: Bug 9112 : update of Italian SQL files 23:07 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 9105: Second housekeeping followup 23:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9136 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , C4::Tags not Plack-compatible 23:07 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 9105: Housekeeping followup 23:07 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 9105: Move Z3950 search code to Breeding module 23:07 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 9140: Followup removes the useless variable $message 23:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 9140 - Untranslatable strings in item circulation history 23:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9151 follow-up: correct name in sysprefs.sql 23:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9136: C4::Tags not Plack-compatible 23:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #990: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/990/ 23:05 drojf my dad has been working with computer for decades and will never leave windows. 23:05 jcamins Heh. I believe it. 23:04 drojf wait until you hear she uses debain and writes encrypted emails. it's much easier to teach people that have never been using windows :) 23:03 jcamins drojf's_mother++ 23:03 jcamins Cool! 23:01 drojf not much. one client. i'm setting up a wiki for my mom, with computer stuff she already knows but forgets from time to time, some new things and as a place to add things herself. she got her first computer a year ago 22:58 jcamins How much load would there really be? 22:57 jcamins drojf: I'd say it's probably not worth bothering with nginx on a local installation. 22:57 jcamins That sounds delicious. 22:55 * drojf contemplates trying cold leftover pheasant with fresh kiwi habanero sauce 22:54 drojf bye libsysguy_afk 22:54 libsysguy cya 22:54 libsysguy more on monday :p 22:54 libsysguy jcamins++ for the help today 22:54 drojf yeah i have seen the latter, that did not look to scary 22:54 libsysguy shoot, Its 5, I gotta get 22:53 libsysguy more relivant http://wiki.nginx.org/MediaWiki 22:52 libsysguy http://interfacelab.com/nginx-php-fpm-apc-awesome/ 22:52 drojf dont know if other things too 22:52 drojf php 22:52 libsysguy what is mediawiki written in? 22:52 drojf because with packages mediawiki is installed in 5 minutes (and brings apache), for nginx i would have to see 22:52 libsysguy as far as I've seen 22:51 libsysguy well it is certainly faster in *most* situations 22:51 libsysguy same basic concept, different way of going about it 22:51 drojf but is it that much better or just a little? 22:51 libsysguy it'd be like running postgres vs mysql 22:51 libsysguy its just a little different 22:51 libsysguy its really not that much of a pain 22:50 drojf "assume nginx" even 22:50 drojf almost close to what you are talking about but not really: for running mediawiki locally on a notebook, should i consider the pain (?) of learning nginx configuration or just go with apache? i assmume nginex would eat up a lot less resources? 22:48 libsysguy http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/server_names.html 22:48 libsysguy like the / and @ plack block? 22:47 jcamins I thought nginx had listen *blocks*. 22:46 jcamins Hm. 22:45 libsysguy http://pastebin.com/rv6Kby0N 22:45 libsysguy heh 22:45 jcamins What are you doing? 22:45 libsysguy nope no errors 22:45 jcamins What are you listening with? 22:45 jcamins Like "Oy! You! Idiot! You're missing a curly brace!" 22:45 libsysguy i just commented out the Listen 80; on both servers 22:44 jcamins See if you get some sort of error message. 22:44 jcamins Try restarting nginx. 22:44 drojf so sautee away i say ;) 22:43 libsysguy listening* 22:43 libsysguy but I don't see anything listeing on 80... 22:43 drojf i just made one kiwi based and one ginger/garlic based habanero sauce 22:43 libsysguy hmm I see unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 14378653 /home/elliott/koha-dev/var/run/plack/plack.sock 22:42 jcamins I'm thinking of sauteeing some leeks. 22:42 jcamins Good evening. 22:42 drojf good evening #koha :) 22:42 libsysguy and init.d status says its running 22:41 jcamins Is it listening? (netstat -a) 22:41 libsysguy i can see it running in a ps aux 22:41 libsysguy it seems to be 22:41 jcamins Did you check if nginx is running? 22:40 libsysguy but chrome is saying it can't connect 22:40 libsysguy yeah i can see starman is running on the unix socket 22:40 jcamins Oh? 22:38 libsysguy but nginx doesn't seem to be cooperating 22:38 libsysguy well…it looks like the config files came out correctly 22:34 jcamins I do, yes. 22:30 libsysguy do you link the daemon to init.d? 22:28 libsysguy okay 22:28 libsysguy symlink it to sites-available then link the link to sites enabled 22:28 jcamins Yes. 22:28 jcamins Oh, to put it in sites-available and sites-enabled? 22:28 jcamins What? 22:27 libsysguy so for nginx I would have to symlink it twice? 22:27 jcamins I symlink it. 22:26 * libsysguy hasn't done a full install in awhile 22:26 libsysguy the koha-httpd.conf file…do you cp that to sites available or ln s 22:15 * libsysguy crosses fingers that I've gotten all the config stuff right and presses make 22:14 jcamins Yeah, it's not boiling over anymore. :) 22:12 cait remove more? 22:05 jcamins Well, liquid. 22:05 jcamins And I removed ~1 cup of water. 22:05 jcamins Gratins are baked 22:05 libsysguy seriously…turn down the heat 22:05 jcamins wtf? 22:04 jcamins it's boiling over again! 22:04 jcamins ... 22:02 libsysguy so I kept getting permission errors when firing up plack so I've borrowed some code from the koha-zebra-ctl.sh script 22:01 libsysguy heh 22:01 jcamins libsysguy: and 3) by boiling over your gratin 22:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #990 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #987 2 days 8 hr ago) 22:00 libsysguy i feel like that is only something you could learn from 1) the internet 2) the food channel 21:58 jcamins Today I learned that rutabagas have a higher water content than potatoes. 21:57 libsysguy nooo not the gratin 21:55 jcamins My gratin is boiling over. 21:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7620: OPACNoResult, Add keyword to query string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=37bd0c8d7e1196648fc3fc24287cf3d8f1afb7d7> / Bug 9169 - Wrap relator code in to allow for CSS customization <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=adf4790c286d59f05c7785b0b441e8682c8fb04f> / Bug 9158: correcting whitespace in series (440) display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ 21:54 jcamins I think we're getting close to pushing it, though. 21:54 libsysguy and gave up 21:54 libsysguy I started to QA that one 21:53 jcamins libsysguy: it really is. 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements 21:53 libsysguy bug 7167 is commented out of control 21:50 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha 3.8.8 released http://t.co/iIm9SRaD" 21:50 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha 3.10.1 http://t.co/QpQuTgpn" 21:48 jenkins_koha druthb: Updated translations for 3.10.1 release 21:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #37: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/37/ 21:45 libsysguy lol 21:44 jcamins libsysguy: I think you pretty much explained the issue in the lede. :P 21:43 libsysguy I don't understand how I can be connected to my AWS box for days and days and the second there is a blip in my connection on an RS box I lose the pipe 21:39 libsysguy terminal lockup 21:39 libsysguy ugh 21:36 * druthb agrees with the wonderful RM, too 21:36 * druthb agrees that the RM is wonderful. 21:35 * cait agrees with the wonderful RM 21:30 jcamins Okay... 21:27 jcamins They are not optional. 21:27 jcamins Test plans. 21:26 * druthb hands jcamins the wiffle bat. 21:26 * libsysguy watches for jcamins shank 21:26 jcamins lol 21:26 * libsysguy smiles uneasily 21:26 libsysguy and I think it pushed it in the ammend 21:26 libsysguy info* 21:26 libsysguy well at the time of QA-ing that one I remembered you asked me to update the author into 21:25 * jcamins_away has trouble seeing how, actually. 21:25 druthb Some Elliott or other? 21:25 libsysguy thanks 21:25 * jcamins_away fixes it. 21:25 libsysguy I think I know how that happened 21:25 libsysguy oops 21:25 libsysguy ... 21:25 jcamins_away 'Cause someone changed the author when QAing. 21:25 druthb it is wicked hot in the house now.. canner's on the last half of the first batch. :) 21:25 jcamins_away Yes, I think so too. 21:24 libsysguy por que? 21:24 libsysguy oleonard i think 21:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9278 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Remove unused OPAC CSS file sanop.css 21:24 jcamins_away Who wrote the patch for bug 9278? 21:24 * libsysguy will be hated by sysadmins everywhere 21:23 * libsysguy just added 5 new install options 21:23 jcamins_away -rw-r--r... awesome! 21:23 huginn druthb: "<!": 121, "failed": 96, "-": 72, "ie": 58, "<-": 49, "C4::Search": 32, "[": 22, "windows": 22, "ptfs": 17, "--><!": 14, "liblime": 13, "src="<!": 11, "monday": 10, "-rw-r--r": 10, "marc": 10, "it": 9, "^": 9, "zebra": 9, "me": 8, "--": 8, "oracle": 7, "windchill": 7, "Jared": 6, "word": 6, and " is not a known MakeMaker parameter name. ": 6 21:23 druthb @most decreased 21:22 huginn druthb: "rangi": 717, "oleonard": 610, "jcamins": 471, "wizzyrea": 359, "cait": 345, "gmcharlt": 336, "chris_n": 310, "paul_p": 273, "sekjal": 245, "nengard": 232, "kf": 221, "magnuse": 194, "druthb": 170, "slef": 170, "eythian": 150, "fredericd": 95, "marcelr": 69, "hdl": 69, "biblibre": 65, "mveron": 64, "hdl_laptop": 60, "drojf": 57, "mtj": 56, "tcohen": 56, and "jwagner": 54 21:22 druthb @most increased 21:22 huginn druthb: Highest karma: "rangi" (712), "oleonard" (605), and "jcamins" (469). Lowest karma: "<!" (-112), "failed" (-96), and "-" (-69). You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 2332. 21:22 druthb @karma 21:21 * druthb wriggles happily. 21:20 libsysguy I think this is going to be considered a 'large patch' 21:19 libsysguy heya Ruthie 21:19 druthb hi 21:19 druthb :) 21:18 libsysguy rangi++++ :p 21:18 cait rangi++ rangi++ for 2 releases :) 21:17 libsysguy yayy druthb++ 21:17 jenkins_koha druthb: Updated translations for 3.8.8 21:17 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #249: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/249/ 21:13 libsysguy of course 21:13 jcamins_away rangi. 21:12 libsysguy who was #1? 21:11 jcamins_away (in 3.10.1) 21:11 jcamins_away Yay! I was number two for signoffs! 21:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #37 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:46 libsysguy and intranet is cgi-bin/koha/intranet 20:46 libsysguy ah 20:46 jcamins_away Yes, that's because it's CGI. 20:45 * libsysguy is looking at koha-httpd.conf 20:45 jcamins_away OPAC points to cgi-bin/koha/opac 20:45 jcamins_away No. 20:45 libsysguy that seems odd 20:45 libsysguy the mounts both point to cgi-bin/koha? 20:44 libsysguy so 20:43 * libsysguy concedes to logic 20:43 libsysguy touche` 20:43 jcamins_away And we have two separate server directives for nginx. 20:42 libsysguy true 20:42 jcamins_away Which is done by nginx. 20:42 libsysguy the difference I could see would be loading static files 20:42 libsysguy right 20:41 jcamins_away There is no difference other than the paths. 20:41 libsysguy but for now I think its safe to keep them in the same container 20:41 libsysguy I'd like to see the differences 20:41 jcamins_away I mean, I suppose there's no reason not to run two server processes. 20:40 jcamins_away I favor that, yes. 20:40 libsysguy and you think all those should go in the same builder? 20:39 jcamins_away And a second mount. 20:39 jcamins_away And then repeat that replacing intra with opac. 20:39 jcamins_away my $intra=Plack::App::CGIBin->new(root => "__INTRANET_CGI_DIR__" ); 20:39 libsysguy to load new paths 20:39 jcamins_away I forgot the "mount" directive. 20:39 jcamins_away Two lines. 20:38 jcamins_away Not much more. You just need a second line. 20:38 libsysguy I would agree wtih that 20:37 jcamins_away The koha.psgi needs to be a bit more complicated to mount the OPAC correctly, too. 20:37 jcamins_away Definitely not. 20:36 libsysguy I don't think that path is correct 20:36 libsysguy I'm more concerned about the install_base atm 20:35 libsysguy of course that will mean touching the apache config as well 20:35 jcamins_away That's my thought too. 20:35 libsysguy so that shouldn't be a hard add 20:35 libsysguy well I'm already asking if they want apache or nginx 20:34 jcamins_away I feel like maybe what we need to do is ask the user during Makefile.PL "do you want to use ports or do you want to use DNS?" 20:34 libsysguy I know there is the port replacement but I don't think you can just drop a port in the server_name 20:34 libsysguy yeah, I wasn't sure how to handle that 20:33 jcamins_away My one concern with that is the server_name... a lot of people use ports. 20:32 libsysguy http://pastebin.com/tSQqAbRx 20:31 jcamins_away That looks right to me. 20:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #249 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:31 libsysguy http://pastebin.com/4aKPRbdv 20:30 jcamins_away Yes please. 20:30 libsysguy sure, pastebin? 20:26 jcamins_away Show me what you have so far? 20:26 jcamins_away Probably. 20:11 libsysguy complex* 20:11 libsysguy holy moses I feel like this is overly comples 19:59 libsysguy okay 19:58 libsysguy ahh 19:18 jcamins_away It sets the variables so that rewrite-config.PL will replace the placeholders. 19:18 jcamins_away Makefile.PL 19:05 libsysguy for example: how do I know that my install directory for a dev install is /home/elliott as opposed to /home/koha 19:04 libsysguy can anybody point me to the part of the install where paths get generated? 17:28 * libsysguy remembers why he quit system administration 17:23 * jcamins_away waves from the distance. 17:22 cait hi jcamins_away 17:10 libsysguy ahh thanks 17:10 jcamins_away libsysguy: debian/control 16:46 * cait waves back 16:42 * Oak waves 16:25 libsysguy do you know where to put new package deps 16:05 cait it's a good reason 16:04 libsysguy then I got tired of waiting 16:04 libsysguy well I was just sitting around waiting on someone else to do it 16:04 cait good luck :) 16:04 cait inspired? hehe 16:03 libsysguy lol 16:03 libsysguy jcamins has inspired me to write in nginx install support 16:03 libsysguy guess what 16:03 libsysguy heya cait 16:02 cait hi libsysguy :) 16:02 cait ohoh 16:01 libsysguy and I am terrified that I am editing it 16:01 libsysguy I am sad that I started looking in MakeFile.PL 15:19 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. 15:19 druthb @later tell rangi pull requests issued--I hope I did it right! 09:53 * cait waves 00:37 jcamins_away I think CentOS and Red Hat are very similar. 00:37 jcamins_away mib_jlp01w: there's also http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.6_on_Centos_6.2_i386 00:36 mib_jlp01w thanks men, let me see that 00:36 jcamins_away mib_jlp01w: there's a guide that might help: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Redhat_Enterprise_6 00:36 jcamins_away If you want to install Koha on Red Hat, you have to use the tarball. 00:33 jcamins_away mib_jlp01w: I have no idea. Koha doesn't have any Red Hat packages. 00:31 mib_jlp01w Hello, Whta is the correct command for add a key package for Red Hat, i use the (wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -) AND DONT WORK