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cait |
hi #koha |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi rangi |
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jcamins_away |
drojf++ |
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| 14:07 |
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drojf |
wow, cleaning bugzilla would take years |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 14:08 |
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cait |
cleaning from? |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
have you seen the signed off is up to over 70 again? :( |
| 14:09 |
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* cait |
needs more tea to deal with this |
| 14:10 |
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drojf |
cleaning from "new" bugs dating back to 2009 |
| 14:19 |
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liw |
possibly relevant: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/[…]s/2012/07/09.html |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
drojf: oh yeah |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
want to have a bug squashing party with me? |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
I only need to get a bit warmer first |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
hi liw :) |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
Then close as “won’t fix†everything left in the bug database. Don’t worry, the severe bugs will come back. |
| 14:25 |
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* cait |
cites |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
i think the time frames are a bit har here... so many different people involved |
| 14:26 |
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cait |
hard |
| 14:26 |
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* jcamins_away |
isn't really here, but has a question for liw about the Debian Perl project... |
| 14:27 |
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jcamins_away |
I'm thinking of packaging the QueryParser module used by Evergreen (and soon Koha too) for Debian, and trying to get it included. |
| 14:27 |
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* cait |
waves to jared |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
who is not really here |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
like drojf and druthb_away |
| 14:27 |
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jcamins_away |
Is that something someone like me, who doesn't have any reputation as an expert Debian developer, could reasonably do? |
| 14:29 |
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drojf |
cait: after doing a few bugs in the last hours i am getting closer to that "close as won't fix" attitude… |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
oh |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
go and have soome food |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
meet here in 30? ;) |
| 14:30 |
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jcamins_away |
I think closing old bugs as WONTFIX is a good idea. |
| 14:31 |
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jcamins_away |
It's easy to reopen or open new ones. |
| 14:31 |
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jcamins_away |
But we are so concerned about "not closing anyone else's bugs" in this project that our bug tracker is entirely worthless. |
| 14:32 |
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drojf |
cait: sorry, i am done for today |
| 14:32 |
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drojf |
it's not the most rewarding thing to do ;) |
| 14:32 |
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jcamins_away |
The last time I used bugzilla for anything was probably a year and a half ago. |
| 14:33 |
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jcamins_away |
(anything other than obtaining a bug number/moving a specific bug along status-wise) |
| 14:33 |
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drojf |
jcamins_away: when a search for "new" bugs shows "This result was limited to 500 bugs" something is definitely wrong |
| 14:34 |
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drojf |
1614 bugs found. |
| 14:34 |
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jcamins_away |
Exactly. |
| 14:34 |
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* jcamins_away |
goes to find out which doorman is on duty. |
| 14:34 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, jcamins_away. |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
drojf: ouch!! |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
I guess ... you limited it to open bugs? |
| 14:35 |
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drojf |
Status: NEW, REOPENED, ASSIGNED |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
*sigh* |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
drojf: one step at a time... |
| 14:38 |
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drojf |
anything from the old tracker is useless anyway. a lot is reported by daforkâ„¢-people or libraries that are not subscribed to the "new" bugzilla anyway. i vote for "close everything that rangi imported from the old tracker immediately" |
| 14:39 |
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drojf |
the few things that are still valid in koha 3-4 years later will be reported again at some point |
| 14:40 |
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drojf |
i think i had only two that are still valid of maybe 10 or how many i checked. and checking takes too much time. so screw them all |
| 14:43 |
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drojf |
i started because i thought it would be nice to get an overview and be able to marc bugs as duplicate. but it is impossible than anyone could know all these bugs |
| 14:45 |
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cait |
hm that's not true |
| 14:45 |
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cait |
about the old tracker |
| 14:45 |
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cait |
and try me about knowing the bugs ;) |
| 14:46 |
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cait |
sometimes we fix something as a side effect of another |
| 14:46 |
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cait |
so that's why some of the older bugs might be invalid now |
| 14:46 |
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cait |
I will check what you did :P |
| 14:49 |
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cait |
not really :) |
| 14:51 |
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drojf |
yes. that is the point. koha looks very different now from 2008. do we really want to re-evaluate all that old stuff on terms of koha 2012/13 to see if it is still valid? |
| 14:53 |
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drojf |
it would take at least one dedicated month's work to go through all the bugs |
| 15:02 |
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drojf |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Cleaning_bugzilla |
| 15:07 |
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liw |
jcamins_away, you don't need to have any prior experience in Debian to help the Debian Perl modules packaging team make packages -- if you prepare the package, submit it for review (#debian-perl), and fix any issues, they'll have a Debian developer who'll do the upload for you, sometimes very quickly |
| 15:07 |
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liw |
jcamins_away, though right now Debian is in freeze, so it might take longer; also, new packages have be manually approvaed by the ftpmaster team, which can also take a few days |
| 15:08 |
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liw |
jcamins_away, so I say: go for it! and say hi from me to gergor herrimann |
| 15:08 |
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liw |
gregor, even |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins_away |
liw: thanks! |
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* jcamins_away |
leaves to spend the day with friends. |
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* druthb |
is about to pull some cookies out of the oven. She'd make someone a great housewife... |
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cait |
drojf: good work - you found some really weird bugs it seems :) |
| 18:07 |
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drojf |
cait: weird = 10 oldest bugs |
| 18:07 |
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drojf |
there will be 100 more |
| 18:07 |
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drojf |
or, 300 |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
weird bugs? |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
probably |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
i think 3311 might still be vlaid |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
hm |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
maybe not |
| 18:07 |
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cait |
seems to work :) |
| 18:08 |
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cait |
cool |
| 18:09 |
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drojf |
i tried the wizard |
| 18:09 |
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cait |
yeah me too :) |
| 18:09 |
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cait |
works nicely now |
| 18:09 |
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drojf |
i suppose that module looked completely different when that bug was reported |
| 18:09 |
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cait |
maybe not completely differet, but hte radio buttons probably worked differently |
| 18:10 |
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drojf |
reported 2009-06-08. has there been a wizard at all back then? |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 18:10 |
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cait |
they are old |
| 18:10 |
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drojf |
ah ok. somehow i thought that was more of a recent thing |
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drojf |
nevermind then |
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rangi |
Morning |
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wahanui |
Morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast |
| 18:23 |
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cait |
morning rangi |
| 18:23 |
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drojf |
hey rangi |
| 18:24 |
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rangi |
Thanks for tidying up old bugs |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
drojf is cool :) |
| 18:25 |
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cait |
drojf++ |
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drojf |
meh. funny network |
| 18:27 |
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drojf |
rangi: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Cleaning_bugzilla not sure if the mailing list would be a better place for it |
| 18:27 |
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rangi |
Hmm I think meeting first then mailing list |
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| 18:35 |
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cait |
drojf: I think 3309 is a bug jared found recently |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
they renamed the column... to follow some new coding guideline and broke it |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
I bet |
| 18:35 |
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drojf |
yes i was about to patch that |
| 18:35 |
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drojf |
the column part |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
it jsut used to delete them and there is a warning on the page |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
I think there already is a bug... |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
was sometimes last week we noticed |
| 18:36 |
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drojf |
"about to" is maybe a little much. thinking about it and looking for the bug… |
| 18:37 |
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cait |
hm let me try and find it? |
| 18:39 |
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drojf |
that would be great :) |
| 18:39 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 18:39 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Brooklyn, Wellington, New Zealand is 16.5°C (7:38 AM NZDT on December 17, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:40 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 18:40 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.1°C (7:35 PM CET on December 16, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:41 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 18:41 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 5.2°C (7:12 PM CET on December 16, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:41 |
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drojf |
ha! beat you by .1°C :P |
| 18:42 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 18:42 |
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drojf |
you win windchill though |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
hm I am checking |
| 18:43 |
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cait |
#koha logs next |
| 18:44 |
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cait |
and ping jcamins_away |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
drojf: I must have imagined it.... |
| 18:45 |
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cait |
*wonders* |
| 18:46 |
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rangi |
Hehe |
| 18:47 |
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drojf |
hm. alternative to closing the old things: find a library to sponsor me and i try them one by one, starting at the latest change (like what i did today). i suppose checking everything <2011 takes about 50 hours |
| 18:47 |
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cait |
:) |
| 18:47 |
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drojf |
of course that is nothing a library would be interested in… |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
That would be cool |
| 18:47 |
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cait |
maybe we need microfunding or how that is called for you |
| 18:47 |
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rangi |
I think that's where joining spi would be good |
| 18:48 |
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drojf |
spi? |
| 18:48 |
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rangi |
We could collect funding for stuff like that easy |
| 18:48 |
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rangi |
Software in the public interest |
| 18:48 |
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drojf |
ah |
| 18:49 |
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cait |
drojf: I am still quite sure jcamins_away talked about it - so maybe you want to wait until we make sure it's nto doubled up effort? |
| 18:49 |
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rangi |
It's what debian and postures and others belong to |
| 18:49 |
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rangi |
Postgres even |
| 18:49 |
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drojf |
cait: patching the db error is adding 'id_' in one line |
| 18:49 |
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cait |
right |
| 18:49 |
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rangi |
Association that has treasurers and bank accounts and not for profit status |
| 18:50 |
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rangi |
So can handle money etc |
| 18:50 |
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drojf |
rangi: yeah i read when that came up in koha discussions, just wasn't familiar with the acronym |
| 18:50 |
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drojf |
err, read about them |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
Ah cool |
| 18:51 |
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rangi |
They are really hands off unless you want them to do something |
| 18:52 |
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rangi |
I've been an individual member for 2 years now |
| 18:52 |
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rangi |
My stop bbiab |
| 18:54 |
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drojf |
rangi: the associated projects list alone makes them very likeable. what is between us and spi? |
| 18:54 |
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drojf |
s/is/stands/ |
| 18:55 |
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cait |
a community made decision |
| 18:56 |
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cait |
and you know how hard they can be to make |
| 18:57 |
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drojf |
i remember governance discussions on the list and bobs talk at kohacon. i don't see anything happening in between though. is there some kind of decision making process going on or is it just another thing that gets postponed whenever it comes up? |
| 18:57 |
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cait |
kind of |
| 18:57 |
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cait |
at least we got gpl3 now |
| 18:58 |
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drojf |
true. i am not around long enough to remember endless discussions of that before but it sounded like it was a big deal |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
mainly with a certain company that wanted to set up a puppet foundation... |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
anyway I'm not here, I'm working ;) |
| 18:59 |
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drojf |
a certain company that is not part of the community? |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
late slef |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
drojf: not any longer, indeed |
| 18:59 |
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drojf |
so let's get over with it :) |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
thing is spi is not a substitute for governancwe |
| 19:00 |
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slef |
we would still need some way to decide what we tell spi to do and/or who tells them that |
| 19:00 |
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drojf |
no i think that are two different things |
| 19:00 |
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drojf |
but i learned about spi in that discussion |
| 19:00 |
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slef |
spi is just a way to hold/traffic assets |
| 19:00 |
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drojf |
yes |
| 19:00 |
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slef |
although they'll also run elections if you want |
| 19:01 |
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drojf |
elections for us? |
| 19:01 |
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slef |
as they do for oftc I think |
| 19:01 |
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slef |
yeah |
| 19:01 |
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drojf |
i see. i think we do ok without that but its always nice to have options |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
but at the moment, in theory, HLT holds stuff for Koha in a sort of SPI-like laissez-faire way |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
not sure what's the status there |
| 19:02 |
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drojf |
i wonder what the trademark status is, too |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
stuff I'd like to fix but bleeeeah time |
| 19:02 |
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drojf |
in the HLT area |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
There Is No Trademark ;) |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
argh! blue pill! blue pill! |
| 19:03 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 19:03 |
|
* slef |
returns to headbanging against overduerules |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
slef:i warned you |
| 19:04 |
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drojf |
slef: are you messing with the messaging thing a lot? |
| 19:08 |
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slef |
drojf: no, only overduerules |
| 19:08 |
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slef |
drojf: I'm staying out of C4::Letters so it should be forward-compatible |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
slef: but aren't thy about sending overdues? :) |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
ah |
| 19:09 |
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slef |
I'm in kohastructure.sql, updatedatabase.pl, overduerules.pl, overduerules.tt and overdue_notices.pl |
| 19:10 |
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drojf |
slef: i play with letters.pm for email encryption so please don't completely reorganise it ;) |
| 19:10 |
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slef |
like jcamins_away said, I'm leaving the UI alone for the basic enh |
| 19:10 |
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slef |
my enh enh messes it up |
| 19:10 |
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* slef |
goes to post this on bugzilla while he thinks of it |
| 19:11 |
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slef |
I love bugzilla quotes "<owen> I'm a crazed branch-creating maniac" |
| 19:11 |
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slef |
hmmm opinion please! |
| 19:11 |
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rangi |
back |
| 19:11 |
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slef |
Is this Architecture, internals and plumbing, or database? |
| 19:12 |
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cait |
what exactly are you doing? |
| 19:12 |
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slef |
restructuring the overduerules table to allow future (like 2 hours) extension |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
hm |
| 19:13 |
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cait |
architecture should be ok then I guess |
| 19:13 |
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rangi |
that |
| 19:13 |
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rangi |
or patrons |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
there is also one for notices I think |
| 19:16 |
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drojf |
i'm leaving for tonight, but i leave you with the threat of putting more things on the irc agenda, like discussions opf things like spi and governance. not sure when i take the time to look up the old stuff and write about it but expect me to be bored under the christmas tree at some point :P |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
lol |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
hope you show up again before christmas :) |
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slef |
WE ALWAYS PUT A BOARD UNDER THE CRHISTMAS TREE TOO!!!1! |
| 19:17 |
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cait |
good morning kathryn |
| 19:17 |
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kathryn |
hi cait! :) |
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slef |
hmmm there's Overdues.pm I'd not spotted |
| 19:18 |
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* slef |
checks it |
| 19:19 |
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slef |
Bug 9296 has been added to the database |
| 19:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9296 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , overduerules table needs restructuring to allow future extension |
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slef |
my $query = qq|SELECT debarred$notify_level FROM overduerules WHERE categorycode=?|; |
| 19:24 |
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* slef |
cries |
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cait |
interesting |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 19:24 |
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cait |
isn't notify_level dead code? |
| 19:25 |
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slef |
no, it's a parameter to the function |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
hm we got a new dependency |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
? |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
Can't locate String/Random.pm in |
| 19:26 |
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cait |
hm self registration probably |
| 19:26 |
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slef |
cait: it's interpolating an arbitrary (as far as the module author knows) variable into SQL... that's how to help a injection security vulnerability occur |
| 19:26 |
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cait |
apart from that slef i think you should check if the notify_level is still used in the db/code |
| 19:27 |
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slef |
it'll be 1, 2 or 3 |
| 19:27 |
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slef |
but my rewrite will kill it |
| 19:27 |
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rangi |
cait: yep it is self registration |
| 19:27 |
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slef |
as it's Evil, Bad and Wrong |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
slef: I am curious about this |
| 19:28 |
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slef |
cait: it's $notify_level, in C4/Overdues.pm |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
we gotnotify level in someplaces in the ui - but it's always empty |
| 19:28 |
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slef |
although I am working on 3.8.x at the moment for this client |
| 19:28 |
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slef |
but maybe it's gone from master |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
since... forever |
| 19:28 |
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cait |
and you are really sure? |
| 19:29 |
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slef |
cait: sounds like a hangover... it's in the code, as 1 2 3... but maybe it's gone from the UI |
| 19:29 |
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slef |
cait: and the pl scripts are generating it and ignoring the UI... so no injection security vulnerability this time, just now |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
slef: does your 3.8 have soemthing in table notifys? |
| 19:29 |
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slef |
cait: look in Overdues.pm for yourself |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
slef: I know it's there |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
but I looked at it quite some time ago and found it to be dead |
| 19:29 |
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slef |
cait: no, but that's using overduerules table |
| 19:30 |
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slef |
cait: ah maybe nothing calls that function. I'd not noticed it before. Maybe half-finished rewrite of overdue_notices.pl? |
| 19:30 |
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cait |
no I think it's much older |
| 19:30 |
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* slef |
searches |
| 19:31 |
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slef |
cait: it's only used internally in Overdues.pm and by KohaTest. Phew. |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
ah |
| 19:32 |
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slef |
cait: you know, we really should find some developers who know this code. ;-) |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
don't look at me |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
it predates my koha involvement |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
a lot |
| 19:32 |
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slef |
not mine |
| 19:32 |
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slef |
doesn't mean I remember it ;) |
| 19:33 |
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slef |
I think 10 years in 10 minutes sums up the futility of trying to understand it all |
| 19:33 |
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slef |
like bees in a hive |
| 19:33 |
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cait |
I like being a little bee in the swarm :) |
| 19:36 |
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slef |
I just like being a little B |
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* slef |
wonders how many 2L English-speakers will get that |
| 19:37 |
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slef |
cait: S says hello |
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* cait |
waves back to S |
| 19:38 |
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slef |
S brandishes a knife at you... I think it was a wave, but she's cooking |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
ok :) |
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cait |
if you get told off you probably deserve it ;) |
| 19:42 |
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* cait |
sides with S |
| 19:48 |
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cait |
hm ok |
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cait |
I got a question |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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cait |
Yes, Check Out (Y) - shouldn#t something happen when I press Y? |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
hi wizzyrea :) |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
and yes, it's wrong capitalization |
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slef |
I think so... if not, might be a javascript fu |
| 19:53 |
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drojf |
shen is the newsletter stuff due? 20th? |
| 19:53 |
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slef |
wizzyrea: S waves to you |
| 19:53 |
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drojf |
s/shen/when/ |
| 19:53 |
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slef |
drojf: RTFEmail |
| 19:53 |
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drojf |
meh |
| 19:53 |
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slef |
but yes, I think this month's deadline is earlier |
| 19:54 |
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drojf |
slef: you get your FEmail when i manage to write for that :P |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
Koha - developed with Gin! |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
I'm working from the bar in the ktichen this evning |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
you might want to check the resultant patches more closely than usual |
| 19:54 |
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drojf |
was hoping to get more feedback but i suppose i have to deal with 3 (!) people answering a short survey after a free workshop |
| 19:54 |
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slef |
drojf: out of? |
| 19:55 |
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slef |
also, "what's in it for them?" |
| 19:55 |
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slef |
and have you mailed them 5 times yet? ;-) |
| 19:56 |
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drojf |
slef: no, but i will put the download link for the script in the "post-limesurvey-url" the next time |
| 19:57 |
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slef |
heheh |
| 19:57 |
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slef |
drojf: try guilt-tripping them. Suggest if you don't get feedback, there might be no future workshops |
| 19:58 |
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cait |
drojf: or mail them all and ask for personal feedback |
| 19:58 |
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slef |
drojf: doh! |
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* cait |
nods |
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cait |
are you really surprised? |
| 20:07 |
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drojf |
no, i'm not |
| 20:07 |
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drojf |
and i did that just for fun |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
that reminds me, i should do a 2012 round up blog post |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
peppercorn contracts? |
| 20:10 |
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slef |
cait: like 1p/year |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
and yes, you should, rangi |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
we love your blog posts |
| 20:10 |
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cait |
slef: just to make a point? :) |
| 20:11 |
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slef |
cait: wikipedia probably knows "peppercorn rent" if you want more. |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
sounds totally reasonable |
| 20:11 |
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slef |
cait: just so they realise it's not infinite |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 20:11 |
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slef |
used to be a peppercorn cost a fraction of a penny |
| 20:11 |
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cait |
ah |
| 20:11 |
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slef |
but the law still respected it as consideration, so there's still a valid contract |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
in my experience customers that actually pay are nicer and less demanding than those that get your services for free |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
it's werid |
| 20:12 |
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slef |
price psychology is very strange |
| 20:12 |
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rangi |
81 developers committed stuff to koha this year |
| 20:12 |
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rangi |
30 of them for the first time |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
hm |
| 20:12 |
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rangi |
thats a pretty sweet stat |
| 20:13 |
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cait |
what's wrong here? (a little riddle) |
| 20:13 |
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cait |
name;surname;address1;address2;zipcode;city;country;email;itemcount;itemsinfo |
| 20:13 |
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cait |
Henry;Acevedo;"c/o Somewhere";"4345 Library Rd.";44224;"Springfield, MA";Germany |
| 20:13 |
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cait |
oh, now i get it, it only uses "" when it's more than one word |
| 20:13 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 20:13 |
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cait |
so maybe nothing is wrong. :) |
| 20:13 |
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slef |
bbl |
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cait |
why do I only find out after asking the stupid question? |
| 20:14 |
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slef |
cait: there are not stupid questions |
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slef |
*no |
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cait |
thx slef |
| 20:14 |
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slef |
cait: thx Einstein IIRC |
| 20:16 |
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drojf |
library degrees? you mean MARC studies? :P |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
@quote random |
| 20:17 |
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huginn |
cait: Quote #219: "You can't hit a perl module in the face. You can only hit it in its package!" (added by wizzyrea at 03:03 PM, October 10, 2012) |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
rofl |
| 20:18 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 20:18 |
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wizzyrea |
that's a great one. |
| 20:18 |
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drojf |
i know who said that. to whom |
| 20:18 |
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wizzyrea |
someone who didn't want me to put their name on it |
| 20:18 |
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drojf |
but s/he wanted to remain private :P |
| 20:18 |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't remember who it was |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
do i really have to look in the logs and lose qa time? |
| 20:18 |
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drojf |
i do |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
or is someone going to tell me |
| 20:18 |
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drojf |
because it was said to me |
| 20:19 |
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drojf |
btw, is 'french kohacon' really called that? or is that just a generic name for non-frenchies? |
| 20:20 |
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rangi |
i think generic for non frenchies |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
i think it's called symposium |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
hmm there are still 14 days of 2012 left |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
or similar, I don't speak french |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
too early for my post? |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
rangi: hm, don't think so, you could wait if you want, but we are curious |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
well I am. :) |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
:) ill do it today and can update if it changes much |
| 20:23 |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
drojf: http://symposium.koha-fr.org/ |
| 20:24 |
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drojf |
thanks :) so he whole conference is done in french= |
| 20:24 |
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drojf |
? |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
looks like it |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:25 |
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drojf |
haven't seen a call for papers for that. not that i could read it |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
paul told me that it will be in limoges this year |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
but there seem to be no dates yet |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
so maybe no cfp |
| 20:27 |
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drojf |
i see a fixed program for 2012, so i assume somebody should have called for papers |
| 20:27 |
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drojf |
or isn't that customary in france? |
| 20:27 |
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drojf |
« Install-Party » Koha. 9h30-12h30. Animation par Guillaume Hatt. - |
| 20:28 |
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drojf |
if that is going to be anything like ours, they will spend the whole day :P |
| 20:28 |
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cait |
2012? |
| 20:28 |
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wahanui |
well, 2012 is the International Year of Co-operatives http://www.2012.coop/ |
| 20:28 |
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drojf |
http://symposium.koha-fr.org/?page_id=500 |
| 20:28 |
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cait |
they did maybe... |
| 20:28 |
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drojf |
pardon my french but Programme du Symposium Koha 2012 |
| 20:29 |
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cait |
past |
| 20:30 |
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drojf |
oh, right, that year is almost done. i should start counting |
| 20:30 |
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* drojf |
hides |
| 20:32 |
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* cait |
sends cookies |
| 20:32 |
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drojf |
cookies!! :) |
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cait |
yay |
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* cait |
goes reading |
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eythian |
hi |
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wizzyrea |
whaddup |
| 21:33 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: you have matresses |
| 21:33 |
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eythian |
well, at least one |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
YAY |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
did they impede your getting out? |
| 21:36 |
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eythian |
No, just saw them as I was heading out, after one of them came up and asked if I was your place. |
| 21:36 |
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eythian |
(which also happened on Saturday or Sunday or whatever day it was :) |
| 21:36 |
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eythian |
they seem to just keep on going up the stairs :) |
| 21:37 |
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cait |
eythian: so you have moved in with the rea's now? |
| 21:37 |
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cait |
:) |
| 21:37 |
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eythian |
No, different house |
| 21:38 |
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eythian |
I'm just further up the hill. |
| 21:38 |
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cait |
I know :) |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
lol. no, get off at the first stop! |
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