IRC log for #koha, 2012-12-15

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00:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #980 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #978 23 hr ago)
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02:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #980: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/980/
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10:22 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:22 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 3.0°C (11:13 AM CET on December 15, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising).
10:23 drojf almost hot ;)
10:24 cait hehe
10:24 cait @wunder Konstanz
10:24 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0°C (11:00 AM CET on December 15, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
10:29 drojf uh. summertime :)
10:32 cait yeah
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14:51 * wajasu working on auth linking logic
15:12 wajasu ok. after writing a script to generate a unique set of authority records from all the biblio headings, i ran link_bibs_to_authorities.pl to get them wired up(linked)
15:13 wajasu but i had some issues with old $9 links not being deleted, and matching not just quite right.
15:15 wajasu there is a routine check_valid_auth which looks up the auth record and compares the auth record heading to the heading in the biblio record heading.
15:17 wajasu but  when formatting the heading  from the auth record, and formatting the heading from the biblio record, we use two different similiar routines, which may choose different subfield tags.
15:20 wajasu C4:Heading::MARC21   bib_heading_fields   vs      C4::AuthoritesMarc::GetAuthorizedHeading      and it may non matches because chose subfield tags.
15:38 wajasu when we generate an auth record we clone the heading field from the biblio record to auth record, then later when we check_valid_auth to determine a match compare:
15:43 wajasu check_valid_auth: $field->as_string('abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz')  COMPAREDTO   GetAuthorizedHeading $field->as_string('abcdefghjklmnopqrstvxyz68');
15:45 wajasu check_valid_auth     vs    C4::AuthoritesMarc::GetAuthorizedHeading      is the comparison.
15:47 * wajasu ends thinking aloud
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16:52 cait1 eythian or drojf around?
16:52 cait1 jcamins_away: ?
16:53 jcamins_away Yes?
16:55 jcamins_away I lost my bonefolder.
16:56 drojf not really. still curious :)
16:57 drojf jcamins_away: looked inside the cat?
16:58 jcamins_away drojf: lol
16:58 drojf cait1: ??
16:58 drojf was that more like a general wakeup call to the channel?
16:58 cait1 sorry
16:58 cait1 I am looking at this blocker but
16:58 cait1 bug
16:59 cait1 and was wondering if someone could teach me how to build packages
16:59 cait1 but then I found the wiki page about "the easy way to do it" and I am fighting with debian now
16:59 drojf i did it the complicated way according to eythian. i have not tried the other
16:59 jcamins_away I think the "easy" wasy is more difficult, according to eythian
16:59 drojf yes the easy way is the complicated one, he said
16:59 * jcamins_away will help if/when he finds his bonefolder.
17:00 drojf works for me though. what is your problem with it?
17:00 cait1 just getting started
17:00 cait1 and my problem is stupid
17:00 cait1 how do you run something as root with debian?
17:01 wajasu sudo -u root :)
17:02 cait1 I am still doing it wrong
17:02 drojf this is the easier way according to eythian btw http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_Debian_Packages
17:02 drojf what are you trying to do?
17:02 cait1 drojf: but he doesn#t tell you what to install there
17:02 cait1 at all
17:02 cait1 so I think I will stick to the other guide for now
17:02 cait1 drojf: install guest additions
17:03 cait1 in my virtual box I want to use for the packaging
17:03 drojf oh. what do you need those for?
17:03 cait1 it does better integration... I was curious
17:03 jcamins_away I don't think you need guest additions.
17:03 cait1 no I don't really need them
17:03 cait1 but I wanted them
17:03 cait1 and it's kidn of frustrating that I am too stupid to figure out the right command
17:03 drojf i think i did not install them because it did not work as the internet said it should
17:03 jcamins_away Why?
17:04 jcamins_away I mean, you're never going to be using X under pbuilder.
17:04 cait1 no
17:04 cait1 but I might be using it for something else
17:04 jcamins_away pbuilder?
17:04 wahanui hmmm... pbuilder is pretty cool
17:04 cait1 and I think in general knowing how 'sudo' works in debian would be a good thing
17:04 jcamins_away Agreed, but I think I don't understand what you're trying to do.
17:05 cait1 oh I do understan it
17:05 cait1 the packaging thing and ym attempt to install guest additions are totally unrelated
17:05 drojf if you are trying to do this http://virtualboxes.org/doc/in[…]itions-on-debian/
17:05 jcamins_away Ohhh.
17:05 drojf you might just do 'su' and become root
17:05 * jcamins_away found the bonefolder, by the way.
17:05 jcamins_away Use su - not su
17:06 wajasu be sure to create a big sized VM.  because i think when you build a package, a chroot based install of debian is created and things are compiled within that.
17:06 wajasu my bad
17:06 cait1 never mind
17:06 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
17:06 cait1 i figured it out
17:06 cait1 what do you need the bonefolder for?
17:06 drojf oh. yes. the standard 8gb were not enough in my vm (with koha installed also)
17:06 cait1 don#t say folding bones :)
17:06 drojf i made a 12gb for the packaging
17:06 jcamins_away Folding stationery.
17:07 cait1 hm I only got 8 or 10 I think
17:07 * cait1 checks
17:08 cait1 10
17:08 cait1 is this ok? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way
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17:09 jcamins_away That's how I do it.
17:09 drojf cait1: what do you mean by "ok"? i did it like that and it works
17:09 cait1 that's perfect hten
17:09 drojf if you do not install koha on the vm i suppose 10gb will be enough
17:10 drojf there is one thing not in the wiki
17:10 cait1 hm so how do I test it if i don't install it..
17:10 cait1 guess i will figure it out one step at a time
17:10 jcamins Could someone please test updatedatabase under latest master?
17:10 cait1 oh right
17:10 cait1 i forgot about that
17:10 jcamins I just want to know if 3.11.000.008 runs.
17:10 cait1 drojf will do it for you
17:10 drojf i use one vm to build packages. to test i just spawn a copy of pure debian, try and throw it away afterwards
17:10 cait1 :P
17:11 cait1 drojf: hmm
17:11 cait1 I will ask you about that later i guess :)
17:11 drojf so i am sure there is no debris ob older installs
17:11 drojf of
17:12 drojf cait: you have to log into the pbuilder thing and add the koha repo into /etc/apt/sources.list. rangi told me how, mom
17:13 drojf when you have installed the pbuild stuff, do 'sudo pbuilder --login --save-after-login', add the repo and do an apt-get update
17:13 drojf jcamins: just run the updatedatabase.pl?
17:13 jcamins drojf: after pulling master, yes.
17:13 cait1 hm
17:14 cait1 i thought I would be buliding the packages from the repo?
17:14 jcamins Add the apt repo.
17:14 cait1 drojf: you know that you should add that to the wiki, right?
17:14 jcamins You'll be building packages from the git repo outside of pbuilder.
17:14 drojf cait1: i added it to mine :P
17:15 cait1 so the poor qam gets a fair chance ;)
17:15 cait1 jcamins: so are you saying I hsould do what drojf said or follow the guide?
17:15 jcamins cait1: you should do what drojf said.
17:15 cait1 thx for clarifying
17:15 jcamins I was trying to disambiguate "repo."
17:15 jcamins Sorry, I'm writing 22 holiday cards.
17:16 cait1 moderate
17:17 drojf Server information             Koha version: 3.11.00.008
17:17 drojf seems like that worked
17:17 jcamins drojf: okay, could you please run `prove t/db_dependent/Koha_borrower_modifications.t`?
17:18 jcamins So far it has worked on every system other than jenkins.
17:19 drojf t/db_dependent/Koha_borrower_modifications.t .. ok
17:19 drojf All tests successful.
17:19 drojf Files=1, Tests=14,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.03 usr  0.02 sys +  0.90 cusr  0.08 csys =  1.03 CPU)
17:19 drojf Result: PASS
17:19 jcamins Cool, thanks.
17:19 cait1 drojf++
17:20 cait1 are you doing the lightning talk?
17:20 drojf ha not really ;)
17:20 cait1 why not?
17:20 drojf because you are not coming :P
17:23 cait1 you don't need me to do that
17:24 * cait1 is waiting for the git clone now
17:24 cait1 drojf: can you at least add your line to the wiki page? :)
17:24 jcamins drojf wants it to be a shibboleth by which we can recognize regulars on #koha. :P
17:25 drojf lol
17:25 drojf i was about to add the line
17:25 drojf now i got distracted by irc ;)
17:27 drojf i never read that page to the end. it does not even have git bz :)
17:27 cait1 waiting for the koha repo to be cloned
17:27 cait1 a 'git' was missing too :)
17:34 drojf done
17:39 cait1 thank yu
17:39 cait1 @karma drojf
17:39 huginn cait1: Karma for "drojf" has been increased 53 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 51.
17:39 cait1 hm
17:39 cait1 drojf++
17:42 cait1 I think you can stand one more wthout flying away or something
17:45 drojf :D
17:46 cait1 I will give you five more for the lightning talk? :D
17:46 drojf turns out you cannot creata a gpg key via ssh because you have to "use other windows" to create randomness
17:47 jcamins drojf: you can, but it's a challenge.
17:47 drojf how? i logged in another time but that doesn't help
17:49 drojf i should have put some process running in the background before
17:49 jcamins There's rngd.
17:49 jcamins But I've never used it.
17:49 jcamins I don't remember how I did it... I did something with find.
17:50 jcamins But rngd looks a lot easier.
17:50 jcamins Maybe apt-get install rng-utils
17:50 drojf a ping in the background seems not to work ;)
17:51 jcamins It'll work eventually... it just might take a few years.
17:51 jcamins A gpg key requires a lot of entropy.
17:52 jcamins Actually, I should install rngd on my VM, probably.
17:52 drojf lol @ a few years
17:54 drojf /etc/init.d/rng-tools: Cannot find a hardware RNG device to use.
17:55 drojf that probably brings us back to the guest extensions ;)
17:55 jcamins Hrm.
17:56 drojf i could create it "here" and transfer. but that would not be any fun
17:56 jcamins I managed to create four GPG keys.
17:57 drojf anyway, sushi rice is cooled down. see you later
17:57 jcamins Ooh, random sushi generators!
17:58 drojf :)
18:01 cait1 drojf: I have no idea how this worked for you
18:01 cait1 it tells me wget: command not found
18:03 cait1 and something seems to be missing in that line too?
18:03 cait1 oh susi
18:03 cait1 ok.. good excuse to leave me alone in my misery
18:12 cait1 it looks like I am buliding packages now... keep fingers crossed everyone
18:13 * jcamins crosses his fingers.
18:15 jcamins I finished writing out the cards for the staff.
18:16 jcamins Just another 12 to go.
18:16 * jcamins grumbles.
18:18 cait1 oh it's dun
18:18 cait1 done
18:18 cait1 the staff?
18:18 wahanui the staff is too big and not finished yet
18:18 jcamins wahanui: exactly!
18:18 wahanui jcamins: huh?
18:18 cait1 :)
18:18 cait1 you never talk about all your employes :)
18:18 jcamins Except I finally finished writing the holiday cards.
18:19 cait1 employees
18:19 jcamins Building staff.
18:19 cait1 oh
18:20 cait1 arg
18:20 cait1 thre is nothing in the directory it should be
18:20 cait1 hm ok, not so bad, the files are not where they shoudl be, but I foud them
18:20 jcamins Yeah, I had problems with that too.
18:20 jcamins The files never go where they're supposed to.
18:20 cait1 hm
18:20 jcamins So my script just moves them from wherever they end up to where I want them.
18:21 cait1 but I only have 4 files
18:21 cait1 and none ending in .deb
18:21 jcamins Do a find.
18:21 cait1 um howß
18:21 jcamins What are the four files?
18:21 cait1 .dsc .build .changes and tar.gz
18:21 jcamins find / -name "koha-common*.deb"
18:21 jcamins Hm.
18:22 cait1 koha_3.10.1~git+201212191036.7f98eeb6.tar.gz for example
18:23 cait1 find doesn't find
18:23 jcamins Hm.
18:23 jcamins Check if there were any errors in the pbuilder output.
18:23 cait1 nothing I can see
18:24 cait1 Aptitude coulnd't satisfy the build dependencies
18:24 jcamins Ah-ha.
18:24 cait1 E: pbuilder-satisfyfdepends failed.
18:24 jcamins Is it complaining about jhash?
18:24 cait1 yeah, found it on second glance
18:24 cait1 hm don't see any about that
18:25 jcamins Oh.
18:25 jcamins What does it say it couldn't find?
18:25 cait1 it doesn't look unhappy apart from that
18:25 cait1 le me figure out how to share with this with you
18:27 cait1 maybe it's the package you guessed, but it was on the top
18:27 cait1 http://paste.koha-community.org/316
18:28 jcamins Okay, I suggest opening debian/control and deleting the libchi-perl and libchi-driver-memcached-perl lines.
18:28 jcamins Once we figure out how we're going to be making them optional anyway.
18:29 cait1 hm
18:29 cait1 ok
18:29 cait1 in the git repo?
18:29 jcamins Yup.
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18:37 * cait1 tries again
18:47 drojf ah yes i had problems there too. i installed the jhash somethingsomething from debian, not from the koha repo, then it worked
18:49 cait1 drojf: hm didn't change anything about that
18:49 cait1 will see if it works this time
18:49 cait1 it's sitll running
18:51 drojf i suppose deleting the dependencies jcamins mentioned solves that too
18:51 cait1 we will see :)
18:51 jcamins drojf: yeah, since it's not necessary, I see no reason to install it.
18:52 drojf the files end up in the right directory when everything works out
18:52 cait1 it's done
18:52 drojf if there is a problem, i have no .deb and the rest isin the wring folder
18:52 drojf wrong
18:52 cait1 still no .deb file
18:52 cait1 :(
18:52 drojf are you trying to build master?
18:53 cait1 yeah
18:53 cait1 master plus the patch on a branch I created
18:53 drojf master+9052 did not work for me. i did not try just master
18:53 drojf 3.10+somepatch and 3.8.7+somnepatch worked though
18:54 cait1 so how did you test 9052?
18:54 cait1 bug 9052
18:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
18:54 cait1 oh
18:54 drojf i tried 3.10+9052 as i stated in the comment
18:54 cait1 right now i get you
18:54 cait1 will try that
18:57 jcamins Why doesn't anyone have calling cards anymore?
18:57 jcamins Calling cards are underappreciated.
18:58 jcamins One of my clients uses cut up calling cards as dividers in her card catalog.
18:58 drojf lol
18:58 cait1 calling cards?
18:58 wahanui calling cards are underappreciated.
18:58 jcamins Yeah, like...
18:59 * cait1 starts the bulid again
18:59 jcamins http://artofmanliness.com/2008[…]the-calling-card/
19:01 drojf people add each other to their phones and facebook accounts on the spot, that might be a reason ;)
19:02 jcamins drojf: lousy excuse.
19:03 * drojf tries to build a master package just to see if that works
19:03 cait1 it seems they are not to be used by womn
19:03 jcamins cait1: not men's calling cards, no.
19:03 cait1 ts.
19:03 jcamins Women generally had their own calling cards.
19:05 drojf jcamins: i'd prefer calling cards over facebook adds anytime. also, i don't have a facebook account
19:05 jcamins drojf: so you have a calling card you use instead?
19:05 drojf no, but i should have :)
19:06 drojf i can put my public gpg key on it for people to type it into their computers at home
19:06 drojf can't build a package from master
19:07 cait1 drojf: I wondered if we should worry about htat
19:07 cait1 maybe we cn just leave it to the RM
19:08 drojf i kind of asked in the comment but eythian only mentioned the dependency
19:08 jcamins The major concern is 3.10.
19:08 jcamins If the patch fixes it with 3.10, that's the important thing.
19:09 drojf that's what i thought. nobody is going to install a master package. and the problem is not from the patch
19:09 jcamins Exactly.
19:09 drojf dpkg-source: info: extracting koha in koha-master+20121215195341.310098fd
19:09 drojf E: pbuilder: Failed extracting the source
19:09 jcamins It seems to have something to do with the branch name, actually... if I rename the branch something else, it works.
19:10 drojf ah really?
19:10 drojf that's weird
19:10 jcamins At least, that's what I found when I tried it the other day.
19:10 jcamins Very.
19:10 cait1 maybe I should try that when it fails this time
19:10 jcamins cait1: if it worked on 3.10.x, you can just pass it. :)
19:10 cait1 still waiting for it
19:10 cait1 it#s running tests right now
19:11 drojf working 3.10 packages undr the christmas tree \o/
19:12 cait1 it#s still... doing things
19:12 cait1 *yawn*
19:12 jcamins :)
19:12 cait1 and I ate all the espresso chocolate
19:13 jcamins lol
19:13 jcamins One note for neighbors.
19:13 drojf looks like that is working great, with the yawning and all
19:13 jcamins I've decided to write three now.
19:14 jcamins I figure at least three of the families here will *not* keep kosher.
19:18 * jcamins does not have a kosher kitchen.
19:19 cait1 how are the cards and kosher kitchens connected?
19:19 jcamins The cards come with cookies.
19:19 * cait1 doesn't have a kosher kitchen
19:19 jcamins Actually, I suppose I could give cards to everyone, just not necessarily cookies.
19:20 jcamins Right.
19:20 jcamins Good point.
19:20 jcamins Five more cards, coming right up.
19:21 cait1 it looks like it's working this time
19:21 cait1 it seems to create a .deb file
19:22 cait1 23 mins now
19:23 cait1 :(
19:23 cait1 done... but no deb file
19:24 cait1 o hno
19:24 cait1 there are
19:24 cait1 they are in the right folder this time!
19:24 jcamins Yay!
19:25 * cait1 squees in delight
19:25 cait1 ook
19:25 cait1 i can copy the koha-common.deb into anothr vm and use that to install koha?
19:25 drojf is there some dependency entry missing for String/Random.pm? i had to manually install that on my dev machine and it throws an error not when i try to build master
19:26 jcamins drojf: it was just added.
19:26 jcamins drojf: it seemed to me to be reported correctly.
19:26 drojf cait1: yes. just do dpkg -i your.deb and then apt-get -f install for the dependencies
19:27 drojf jcamins: as pbuilder gets the other dependencies automatically i assume something is not right
19:27 jcamins drojf: hmm...
19:28 jcamins drojf: I think eythian has to regenerate the control file.
19:28 jcamins Actually, I think there's a patch for master that's been languishing for months.
19:28 cait1 do I ned any of the other files?
19:28 jcamins cait1: nope, just the koha-common.deb.
19:29 drojf cait1: you get them automatically when you do apt-get -f install afterwards. and you have to install mysql-server too
19:29 cait1 how do I get them automatically?
19:30 jcamins `sudo apt-get -f install`
19:30 jcamins Three of seven.
19:31 jcamins I'm hungry.
19:31 jcamins Proably because I've been writing holiday cards for...
19:31 jcamins three hours.
19:31 drojf eat a bunch of nonkosher cookies with each card
19:31 cait1 ew
19:31 cait1 hehe
19:32 jcamins lol
19:32 jcamins I think I'll eat the cookies, and save the card.
19:32 cait1 coookiees....
19:34 jcamins It'd be nice if I wrote faster.
19:34 jcamins But not nice enough that I'm ever going to take the time to learn.
19:47 cait1 you could outsource the writing
19:47 cait1 I would do it for cookies :)
19:47 cait1 and you would get a fancy continental hand on your cards :P
19:48 jcamins lol
19:48 jcamins Not a bad idea.
19:48 jcamins Continental handwriting is very much a la mode. :)
19:49 cait1 yay :)
19:52 drojf lol. i built the master package as 3.33.33 and that worked
19:52 drojf (from branch 'master'
19:52 drojf )
19:54 jcamins drojf: interesting. So it's the version that's the problem?
19:55 drojf seems like it is. i try it as master again now to make sure it was not the missing dependency (i added that to the control file). i doubt it has anything to do with it because it we did not have it when i tried it the last time
19:55 jcamins That's... weird.
19:55 * cait1 lost her koha-common.deb file
19:55 cait1 *sigh*
19:56 cait1 I tried moving it out of the vm and now it vanished
19:56 cait1 oh good
19:56 cait1 I found it
19:56 jcamins Oh no!
19:56 jcamins Oh, yay!
20:02 jcamins Backporting bug 7067 to 3.8.x.
20:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , allow patron self registration via the opac
20:02 jcamins Nasty business, that.
20:03 jcamins It's a rather complex feature.
20:03 cait1 jcamins: why are you doing it?
20:03 jcamins I'm not.
20:04 jcamins Someone just reported on the bug that it didn't work.
20:04 cait1 well no wonder it doesn't
20:04 jcamins I responded that it wasn't intended for backporting, and if you need help with backporting that should be taken to the list and not discussed on bugzilla.
20:05 cait1 ah i see
20:06 cait1 people are weird
20:07 jcamins Indeed they are.
20:07 jcamins Two to go.
20:08 cait1 h
20:08 cait1 m
20:08 cait1 it didn't work :(
20:08 cait1 or maybe...
20:09 cait1 yeah.... rtfm
20:09 * cait1 goes to read
20:09 drojf backporting… "i want the latest features, but please let me use my old version"
20:10 drojf what is not working cait1?
20:10 cait1 it's ok
20:10 cait1 I did the apt-get install -f now
20:10 cait1 hi druthb :)
20:11 druthb Hi, cait. :)
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20:18 cait1 bah :(
20:18 cait1 can't install it
20:18 cait1 missing dependencies
20:18 jcamins Which ones?
20:18 wahanui Which ones are those?
20:19 cait1 http://paste.koha-community.org/317
20:19 * druthb pokes wahanui with her pointy stick.
20:19 jcamins Ah, you need to add debian.koha-community.org to your sources.list.
20:19 druthb wahanui: druthb?
20:19 wahanui rumour has it druthb is our translation manager for 3.12
20:19 druthb well, yes.
20:19 druthb druthb?
20:19 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
20:19 druthb cait?
20:19 wahanui i think cait is qam, not your secretary
20:19 druthb lulz
20:19 druthb jcamins
20:19 druthb ?
20:19 druthb jcamons?
20:20 * druthb can't type; she has the dumb.
20:20 druthb jcamins?
20:20 wahanui i guess jcamins is brilliant
20:20 druthb well, yes.
20:20 jcamins lol
20:20 druthb wahanui: jcamins?
20:20 wahanui jcamins is probably brilliant
20:20 cait1 jcamins: I figured it out a split second after posting the link :)
20:20 * druthb whacks wahanui with the stick.
20:20 cait1 too late still.. but maybe progress
20:20 druthb wahanui: jcamins?
20:20 wahanui i think jcamins is very, very irascible.
20:20 druthb :P
20:21 druthb wahanui: druthb?
20:21 wahanui you are our translation manager for 3.12
20:21 druthb wahanui: dpavlin?
20:21 wahanui Taking over the world is trivial for this one...
20:21 druthb lulz
20:23 * druthb thinks.
20:23 druthb wahanui: kmkale?
20:23 wahanui I miss kmkale!
20:23 druthb awr!
20:26 cait1 jcamins: help?
20:26 wahanui help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help.
20:26 cait1 added the repo to the sources list
20:26 cait1 but still got the same
20:26 * druthb whacks wahanui with the stick again.
20:26 druthb Shup, wahanui.
20:26 wahanui druthb: huh?
20:26 jcamins cait1: did you run apt-get update?
20:26 cait1 no
20:26 cait1 of corse not
20:26 * cait1 has the dumb too
20:27 * druthb hugs cait1, watching wahanui carefully for more silliness.
20:27 jcamins anybody?
20:27 wahanui i think anybody is here
20:27 jcamins forget anybody
20:27 wahanui jcamins: I forgot anybody
20:28 druthb oh, lordy.  I need to refill my box of clues.  Forgot that I need to make up some sort of treat for the English Country dance party tomorrow.  urg.
20:28 druthb hm.
20:29 cait1 jcamins: it looks like it worked this time
20:29 jcamins anybody is <reply> The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/
20:29 jcamins anybody?
20:29 wahanui The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/
20:29 drojf cait1: i did a workshop where i explained how that works. you should have come :P
20:30 cait1 drojf: meany
20:30 cait1 can you help me now?
20:30 cait1 for the sake of having working packages?
20:30 drojf where are you now?
20:31 druthb drojf:  Don't be mean to cait.    You're hopelessly outnumbered.
20:31 cait1 druthb: I am asking him to help me because I think jcamins might start yellin gat me soon :)
20:31 cait1 drojf: all dependencies hopefully installed
20:31 cait1 packages?
20:31 wahanui it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
20:31 drojf that is good
20:31 drojf then install mysql-server
20:32 druthb jcamins only yells if you send in bad patches.  That seems to be the only thing that makes him irascible.
20:32 jcamins That and bugzilla abuse.
20:33 druthb there.  see, cait1?  You're safe.
20:33 cait1 drojf: i am one step ahead - that's done too
20:33 jcamins How do I address the envelopes for my neighbors?
20:33 jcamins I don't know their names.
20:34 druthb "The crazy cat lady in apartment 6b?"
20:34 jcamins lol
20:34 * druthb is the crazy cat lady in unit 414.
20:35 druthb hm.
20:35 druthb wahanui:  druthb?
20:35 wahanui you are our translation manager for 3.12
21:00 drojf jcamins: having one ssh-session build a koha debian package and another waiting for gpg key generation worked
21:01 jcamins Yay!
21:06 cait1 jcamins: I am missing the little cart picture
21:06 cait1 not sure why, I will take another look tomorrow
21:06 jcamins I don't think that has anything to do with the patch.
21:07 jcamins But it's worth checking by installing 3.10 without the patch.
21:07 * druthb yawns and stretches.
21:07 druthb gonna go get prettied up for dancing tonight.  :)   see y'all soon.
21:08 cait1 jcamins: maybe, but not tonight
21:08 drojf cait1: i have the cart in 3.10
21:08 drojf do you want a screenshot of 3.10 without 9052?
21:08 cait1 drojf: without patch?
21:08 drojf yes
21:08 cait1 yes please
21:08 jcamins drojf: what about with patch?
21:08 cait1 overall it looks good, I am missing the gradient in the blue background and the little icons
21:08 drojf its with 9287 but that should not matter for the screenshot
21:08 cait1 and looking at it in iceweasel
21:08 cait1 installing chromium now
21:09 drojf jcamins: will do later. i already repurposed the vm
21:09 drojf i'll install it again
21:09 cait1 oh
21:09 cait1 ok
21:09 cait1 it's an iceweasel proble
21:09 cait1 m
21:10 jcamins Yay!
21:10 cait1 it's all good in chromium
21:10 jcamins So A) the patch works and B) you have a bug to file. :P
21:10 cait1 drojf: without patch it should be obviously broken, right?
21:10 jcamins Exciting news! :)
21:10 drojf it works fine in iceweasel here…
21:10 cait1 jcamins: iceweasel seems to be based on a  very old version of firefox
21:10 jcamins cait1: oh yes. All the fonts will be wrong.
21:10 cait1 so probably not worth thetrouble
21:11 cait1 cool
21:11 cait1 going to pass qa
21:11 cait1 well that was hard.
21:11 jcamins But you did it!
21:12 jcamins And it will be easier next time.
21:12 * jcamins goes to find out which doorman is on duty.
21:13 cait1 yeah, that looks pretty horrible
21:13 drojf cait1: i only use iceweasel and it works finde
21:13 drojf fine
21:13 drojf maybe try ctrl+f5 to reload?
21:13 cait1 did
21:13 drojf weird
21:14 drojf is firebug reporting missing files? for your cart?
21:14 cait1 what's your version?
21:14 cait1 3.5.16
21:15 cait1 I can't instal firebug
21:16 drojf 3.5.16?? of iceaweasel?
21:16 cait1 yeah
21:16 cait1 that's pretty old I guess?
21:16 drojf 10.0.11
21:16 cait1 see
21:16 cait1 but why do I have such an ol version
21:16 drojf what os?
21:16 drojf debian?
21:16 wahanui debian is probably what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that
21:17 cait1 i tink it doesn't like the sprites
21:17 cait1 the css is there
21:17 drojf squeeze-backports might help
21:17 cait1 debian yes
21:17 drojf yes that may certainly be the problem then
21:17 cait1 so i think it can be ignored
21:17 drojf alright then :)
21:18 drojf debian squeeze?
21:18 wahanui debian squeeze is recommended for koha?
21:18 drojf you might want to try adding
21:18 drojf deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
21:18 drojf deb-src http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
21:19 drojf i guess that is where the newer iceweasel comes from
21:19 cait1 going to shut down this vm now :) but i will keep it in mind
21:21 drojf @later tell jcamins trying to build a package for version 'fisch' fails, '1fisch' builds 3.8.0. something is really fishy about that build script
21:21 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
21:22 drojf @later tell jcamins or rather, it names the package 3.8.0. i have not installed it to see what it actually is, i suppose it is master
21:22 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
21:22 cait1 jcamins_away: it's done - not it's your turn
21:23 cait1 drojf++ :)
21:23 drojf cait1++
21:23 drojf working 3.10 \o/
21:23 cait1 *blush*
21:23 cait @karma cait1
21:23 huginn cait: Karma for "cait1" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
21:23 cait hehe
21:23 drojf heh
21:25 drojf write an irc script that calls @karma cait1 and does cait1--, cait++ until karma of cait1 == 0 ;)
21:25 drojf or fix huginn to connect nicks
21:27 drojf ah, right, i got my gpg key now, so i can finish the repo business :)
21:28 cait preparing for the lightning talk? :)
21:46 jcamins_away Two down, twenty to go.
22:06 jcamins_away And I just divided 6 more plates.
22:13 drojf drojf, apt repository owner.
22:13 jcamins_away Yay!
22:13 drojf it's amazing what all i can do with that 2€ webspace lol
22:13 jcamins So, I'm going to have to make more raspberry shortbread bars.
22:13 jcamins drojf: that's really weird.
22:14 jcamins Given how tasty they are, I think that's a recipe to copy into my cookbook.
22:15 drojf don't be shy, name a koha version after them
22:27 jcamins "I am pleased to announce that Koha preview 3.11.raspberry shortbread bars has been released."
22:30 drojf \o/
22:38 cait lol
22:48 jcamins I'm going to run out of three varieties of cookies.
22:57 drojf cait: i think eythian wants you to do a tarball install too :P
22:58 cait git worked
22:58 cait he is being mean
23:01 drojf i don't even remember how to do a tarball installation
23:01 cait shouldn't the dev at least think that it works?
23:01 cait :P
23:01 jcamins drojf: just choose "standard" when running Makefile.PL
23:03 drojf it's the tarball installation's turn to be broken now anyway
23:04 cait jcamins: do you want me to pull back my passed qa?
23:08 thd-away` joined #koha
23:09 jcamins Nah.
23:09 * cait is relieved
23:15 drojf reading the whole ubuntu/tarball wiki entry would take longer than installing and configuring with packages
23:16 jcamins Yes.
23:16 jcamins The author ignored my suggestion that we not add more bulk to the parts that people were not getting confused about.
23:23 * drojf goes to bed
23:23 drojf good night
23:24 cait night
23:24 jcamins cait: drojf going to bed before you?!?
23:27 jcamins lol
23:27 jcamins ... and yet drojf is still logged in.
23:30 drojf i'll stay logged in in case i might be sleep-signoffing or something
23:33 jcamins lol

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