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slef |
wizzyrea: Changes submitted for bug 6890 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6890 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Add reserves to modification logging |
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slef |
wizzyrea: bz said it was excluding you from the email. Not sure why. |
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wizzyrea |
ehhhh |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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jcamins |
Because it figured wizzyrea didn't need more e-mail? |
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wizzyrea |
cooooooool! |
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* wizzyrea |
will attampt to test that |
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* jcamins |
remembers he was going to make biscuits. |
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wizzyrea |
attampt? what am I from the south. |
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slef |
bbl |
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Brooke_ |
o/ |
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Brooke_ |
@later tell druthb Tejas is coldish this time of year. Def Big D is, though San Antonio, not so bad. |
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huginn |
Brooke_: The operation succeeded. |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Need to write a RM newsletter. |
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jcamins |
The biscuits are delicious. |
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BobB |
good afternoon #koha |
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BobB |
I have a question: |
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BobB |
regarging the Independant Branches sys pref, the manual says ... |
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BobB |
It is important that this value be set before going live and that it NOT be changed |
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BobB |
I guess I should take that as read and not change it? That would be wise, hey? |
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jcamins |
Actually, it doesn't matter. |
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jcamins |
No one knows why the manual says that. |
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BobB |
Hi Jared, is that so? |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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libsysguy |
the manual writer might |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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libsysguy |
actually no she doesn't |
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libsysguy |
that came up a while back |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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libsysguy |
we should all take bets on if BobB will foobar his system |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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jcamins |
Doesn't seem likely. |
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BobB |
:) |
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libsysguy |
report back and let us know so we can update the manual |
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jcamins |
IndependantBranches does very little. |
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BobB |
Hmm, the manual gives it big wraps, actually .... its a nice idea at least :) |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I think back in 3.0 it did things. |
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BobB |
ok, well we'll try it and report back if anything breaks |
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BobB |
Many thanks! |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. |
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* jcamins |
contemplates the blank box requesting that he write an RM newsletter. |
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* jcamins |
decides to read in bed. |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha. |
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eythian |
later |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #978 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8033: Change javascipt behavior to degrade nicely <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d214731a7701d5578> / Bug 8033 follow-up removing tabs in indentation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]83d11279a61fcdd13> / Bug 8033: This patch adds print slips to self checkout. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]web/?p=koha.git;a |
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eythian |
@fortune |
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huginn |
eythian: Try to get all of your posthumous medals in advance. |
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eythian |
@fortune |
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huginn |
eythian: Sometimes I wonder if I'm in my right mind. Then it passes off and I'm as intelligent as ever. -- Samuel Beckett, "Endgame" |
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libsysguy |
@eightball will my next idea be successful? |
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huginn |
libsysguy: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later. |
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libsysguy |
stinkin eightball |
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eythian |
you shouldn't be using outlook anyway. |
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libsysguy |
hehe |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #978: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/978/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* elliott: Bug 8033: This patch adds print slips to self checkout. |
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jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 8033 follow-up removing tabs in indentation |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8033: Change javascipt behavior to degrade nicely |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8033 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , add print receipt option to Koha self-check |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
hi, reiveune |
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francharb |
hi |
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wahanui |
what's up, francharb |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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sophie_m |
hi kf, hello #koha |
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kf |
hi sophie_m :) |
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matts |
hi ! |
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kf |
hi matts :) |
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kf |
how is the weather in strasbourg? having snow too? |
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kf |
@wunder Konstan |
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huginn |
kf: Error: No such location could be found. |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.0°C (9:35 AM CET on December 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
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paul_p |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0°C (9:30 AM CET on December 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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paul_p |
@wunder athens, greece |
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huginn |
paul_p: The current temperature in Argyroupoli, Greece is 10.5°C (10:00 AM EET on December 14, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
hi paul_p |
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kf |
back in france? |
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paul_p |
kf yep. |
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paul_p |
kf = yes, there will be a hackfest in France, I asked on koha-devel for dates |
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kf |
ah, I was not talking about the hackfest |
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kf |
I think that is in march? |
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kf |
18th march - 22ndß |
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kf |
at least you said that and I marked it in my calendar |
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paul_p |
kf, ok. The hackfest is in march, 18-22 |
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kf |
it's the week after library conf here |
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kf |
so I hope you don't plan to move it :) |
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reiveune |
BZ5635 is "signed off" since 2012-07-31 (except a little "failed QA" caused by a poor non translated comment ... corrected since). This patch is important, how to make it "passed QA"? |
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kf |
I meant the conf koala? organizes |
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paul_p |
kf, yes, there will be a french kohacon also. (I don't know the exact dates) |
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kf |
reiveune: let me take a look |
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reiveune |
thanks kf |
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kf |
paul_p: I don't spreak french as you all know, but my coworker does |
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paul_p |
kf = the dates for the hackfest won't change, Brendan already booked 2 flight for him & Eliott, and magnus_away already did too |
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kf |
cool, I heard that much |
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kf |
reiveune: I think your comment is ok, now it needs someone to test from the qa team |
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kf |
paul_p: do you know when the dates will be available for the french kohacon? probably? |
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reiveune |
kf : thank you for the clarification |
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paul_p |
kf = I've asked chab. It will be in Limoges, the dates are not decided. |
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kf |
paul_p: thx :) |
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paul_p |
Limoges = the Koha city = the university & the public library & 2 small libraries are all using Koha :D :D |
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kf |
awesome! |
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kf |
paul_p: maybe keep in mind I asked for the dates? we will check the websites but last year I totally missed it |
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paul_p |
kf, will try. |
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kf |
all I can ask for :) thx |
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kf |
hi libsysguy |
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gerundio |
goog morning |
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gerundio |
any google chrome users out there? |
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gerundio |
https://support.google.com/chr[…]en&answer=1342714 |
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gerundio |
I'm running a Koha installation under HTTPS |
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gerundio |
when I activate the fetch covers from Google Books setting |
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gerundio |
the covers aren't being displayed in Chrome |
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gerundio |
the shield icon shows up in the address bar |
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gerundio |
all covers from Google Books are HTTP and blocked now |
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slef |
gerundio: you'll probably need to edit the js that loads the covers and make it use https (or handle either, if you can). |
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slef |
gerundio: and no-one should use google chrome. Privacy-invading, encouraging non-free software, and so on. |
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gerundio |
slef, hmmm? non-free software? |
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slef |
gerundio: well, chrome itself, but also its app store doesn't label stuff clearly IIRC. |
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slef |
been a while since I tried chromium though. It was too awkward to control - it seems designed to encourage people to allow all cookies and scripts, which just isn't a good idea on the big bad internet. |
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gerundio |
slef, not really |
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slef |
? |
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gerundio |
it doesn't encourage people to allow all cookies and scripts |
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gerundio |
it does have a variety of automated controls to prevent bad usage |
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gerundio |
just take the example I'm talking about |
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gerundio |
the browser now block HTTP content on an HTTPS connection |
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gerundio |
FF and IE show the covers just fine |
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gerundio |
gtg for now, have a meeting to attend |
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slef |
FF didn't used to. It used to show a warning. Hmm. |
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gerundio |
we can continue this talk later :) |
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slef |
last time I tested chromium, it display warnings in the address bar whenever you blocked one and clicking either opened a dialogue that only let you allow all. It was some way behind FF and FF isn't exactly great at this, even FF+noscript is barely passable. |
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slef |
*displayed |
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slef |
ttyl |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
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paul_p |
hi vfernandes |
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vfernandes |
another day translating koha 3.8 to portuguese :/ |
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vfernandes |
if the server allow it.. sometimes it is damn slow |
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vfernandes |
koha translate why don't you work? :P |
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drojf |
it will, soon |
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drojf |
i think the move to the new server is going to happen soon |
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vfernandes |
nice! but soon is when? |
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drojf |
not now :P |
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drojf |
druthb_away might know |
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drojf |
you know that you can do offline translation? |
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vfernandes |
yes I know... |
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drojf |
but you prefer complaining? :P |
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kf1 |
vfernandes: I was testing the new server yesterday for ruth |
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kf1 |
I think it should be soon now |
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kf1 |
probably has to move the data over at some point and change dns |
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vfernandes |
I like complaining... it's the portuguese nature |
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kf1 |
look in yesterday's irc logs |
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vfernandes |
ehehe |
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kf1 |
and I thought it was the german one :) |
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drojf |
germans 1-up that by complaining about people complaining :) |
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vfernandes |
portuguese nature is complaining but don't do nothing about the problema :D |
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chris_n |
vfernandes: I seem to get the idea that that is human nature in general :-) |
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slef |
In Home › Tools › Notices & Slips › Modify notice, is there a way to make part of the Message body conditional on a variable? |
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kf1 |
? |
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kf1 |
I don't think so slef, but what do you want to do? |
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slef |
kf1: I think someone wants to extra-guilt-trip patrons who have overdue books that others have holds on. |
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slef |
Do you think I'd need to extend the cronjob that generates the notices? |
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kf1 |
slef: hm interesting idea, but I don't think you can put the information there at all |
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kf1 |
I think you will need to extend the Letters.pm module |
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kf1 |
to have a new placeholder for hold information |
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jcamins_away |
slef: you should make introduce TT syntax to the notices. |
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slef |
<ifheld>...</ifheld> |
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jcamins_away |
s/make // |
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slef |
jcamins_away: that sounds like a far bigger change |
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kf1 |
jcamins_away: I thought he wouldn't go for that.... |
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slef |
jcamins_away: but it's probably a good long-term move |
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kf1 |
we just have to be careful to not overcomplicate it |
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kf1 |
maybe make it an option like html |
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jcamins |
kf1: it'd be easier than what we have now. |
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jcamins |
[% totalfines %] [% item.title %] etc. |
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slef |
<fine> is handled in misc/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl |
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slef |
yeah TT is the right way but I need something I can post today |
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jcamins |
slef: you could do TT in a day! |
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slef |
hrrrrm no this isn't what they want |
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slef |
It seems they want Home › Tools › Notice triggers to have more tabs |
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jcamins |
Oh, well, that's something else. |
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slef |
add First with holds, Second with holds, Third with holds |
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kf1 |
slef: because <fine> is only available in overdue notices... ubt it probably shouldn't be thre |
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* slef |
goes digging |
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kf1 |
slef: ooh, that will be unpleasant |
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kf1 |
slef: the database structure is not for that |
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kf1 |
slef: you may be better off trying to add an optional placeholder |
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slef |
kf1: they want different timings |
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slef |
but yeah, I just saw the overduerules table structure :-/ |
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drojf |
i never really tried how slow pootle is at the moment :( |
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jcamins |
Yay! 7067 works. |
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drojf |
i think i killed it with a search |
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slef |
bug 7067 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , allow patron self registration via the opac |
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slef |
urgh, just realised none of my wip branches change kohastructure.sql |
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slef |
that's a goof, isn't it? Or is that for the RM to do when assigning a DBrev? |
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slef |
at least none of my wips that I'm using today |
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jcamins |
slef: it's a goof. |
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* jcamins |
will fail any patch that updates the database without changing kohastructure that he notices. |
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* jcamins |
pulls out the red pen. |
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kf1 |
slef: you should talk to libsysguy |
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kf1 |
he was working on a rewrite of this |
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slef |
Bug 6833 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6833 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Patch doesn't apply , Notifications Rewrite |
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slef |
@later tell libsysguy any update on Bug 6833 rewrite? |
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huginn |
slef: The operation succeeded. |
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slef |
3.6 :-/ |
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slef |
so am I right in thinking my shortest possible path is |
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slef |
1. extend kohastructure.sql and updatedatabase.pl to hold dates for items with and without holds |
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slef |
2. extend tools/overduerules.pl to set those dates |
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slef |
3. extend cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl to generate on different dates for items with and without holds |
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slef |
? |
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slef |
hi libsysguy |
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kf1 |
hi libsysguy :) |
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wajasu |
sounds like a plan |
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wajasu |
you might need to get into the guts of Letter.pm |
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* slef |
checks Letter.pm |
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slef |
or Letters.pm indeed |
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slef |
wajasu: I don't think Letters.pm has any overdue-specific parts so I suspect it won't see/care about the new timings and fields. |
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wajasu |
be ware that there are a couple of places that if you don't process/substitute <tag> related fields by a certain point in the code, some perl one-liners strip them. |
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wajasu |
its the sustitution logic that you might need to get into. |
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slef |
wajasu: I was thinking against adding more <tag>s because the aim is to send at different times, so I was thinking new time fields that send entirely different notices |
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wajasu |
ahh. better then. |
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slef |
right, thanks for the review |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9056' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]efdad205ad78d5e81> / Bug 9056 follow-up: add missing \n to updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]83b617afb5c134c54> / Bug 7067: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff;h=3d70e9a4668d |
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Starting build #979 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #979: FAILURE in 3 min 6 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/979/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 7067 - OPAC Borrower Self Registration |
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* oleonard: Bug 7067 [Follow-up: templates] allow patron self registration via the opac |
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* jonathan.druart: Bug 7067: Followup FIX QA fails |
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* jonathan.druart: Bug 7067 Followup: FIX merge updatedatabase |
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* kyle: Bug 7067 QA Followup |
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* kyle: Bug 7067 QA Followup - Add descriptions to tests |
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* kyle: Bug 7067 - QA Followup - Fix failing tests |
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* kyle: Bug 7067 - Fix bad url in breadcrumbs |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , allow patron self registration via the opac |
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* kyle: Bug 7067 - QA Followup - Fix error when confirming via email |
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* jcamins: Bug 7067 follow-up: fix updatedatabase.pl formatting |
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* jcamins: Bug 7067: Increment version number |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 9056 follow-up: add missing \n to updatedatabase.pl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9056 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Add more translations to table language_descriptions |
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jcamins |
@later tell rangi Could you please install String::Random on jenkins? |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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oleonard |
Suddenly Gmail wants to send Bugzilla messages to spam again |
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kf1 |
well.. there are bugs in it :) |
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kf1 |
... and hi oleonard :) |
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oleonard |
Wow, Bug 7067 pushed to master! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , allow patron self registration via the opac |
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kf1 |
:) |
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oleonard |
The improvements to patron self-update are well worth the effort even for libraries who won't let patrons self-register |
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chris_n |
jcamins kf1 slef: I was just thinking it would be nice to rework notices to use something like TT |
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tcohen |
@later tell mtompsett, please review bug 9267 |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
druthb_brb, i saw it is fixed, that's great news! |
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druthb_brb |
nick druthb |
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* druthb |
can't type today; she has the dumb. |
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tcohen |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
Hi, tcohen. :) |
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tcohen |
when will we swithc? |
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druthb |
I'll talk to rangi later today, figure out when he can switch the DNS. I can do it with a redirect in the interim, I imagine, since the current server will still *be* there. Might do the actual move late tonight, my time. |
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kf |
cool :) |
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kf |
druthb++ :) |
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tcohen |
druthb++ |
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* druthb |
blushes |
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drojf |
druthb++ # to increase the pressure :P |
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druthb |
:P |
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* oleonard |
goes back in time to fail Bug 8033 for not doing JavaScript in a translatable way |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8033 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , add print receipt option to Koha self-check |
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kf |
jcamins_away: is the bugfix release for 3.10 on 22nd? |
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kf |
trying to anwer an email on the mailing list, no pressure :) |
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kf |
ah never mind |
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drojf |
meh. kf was faster |
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kf |
must be a first :) |
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drojf |
that's what i get for not looking in irc ;) |
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kf |
a compliment about normally answering maisl very fast |
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kf |
? |
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slef |
chris_n: it would be good, but wouldn't help me send them out at different times for with-holds and without-holds, so I can't try to fit it on this bill. ;-) |
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drojf |
kf: no, i mant my email not coming though at all |
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drojf |
s/mant/meant |
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kf |
oh |
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drojf |
s/though/through. i should stop typing today |
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jcamins |
kf: I presume so. |
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* kf |
puts a bowl of cookies on the virtual #koha table |
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jcamins |
Mmm. |
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jcamins |
What kind? |
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kf |
chocolate chip |
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jcamins |
kf: I am, however, not RMaint for 3.10, so it's rangi's call when 3.10.1 will be released. |
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kf |
jcamins: args, you are right |
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kf |
I am going to blame friday |
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tcohen |
weeeeee, 4GB more of RAM for my ultrabook! 8GB of joy! |
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jcamins |
tcohen: yay! Now you can run a few more Koha instances! |
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jcamins |
@later tell mtj Please QA bug 9052 if you get a chance. |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
"Too many checked out. 12 checked out, only 6 are allowed." Bug I have 18 items checked out, all the same item type. |
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oleonard |
Sorry, /But/ I have 18 items checked out, all the same item type. |
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tcohen |
now i can test 32bit and 64bit ubuntu-related stuff |
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drojf |
oleonard: that's an interesting calculation :) |
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tcohen |
without compromising the rest of my work heh |
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jcamins |
Ooh, there are lots of good bugs awaiting QA. |
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oleonard |
I don't have any circ rule set at 6. |
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oleonard |
oh wait yes I do |
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oleonard |
It was down there under "Default checkout limit by patron category" |
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oleonard |
Never mind. |
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wahanui |
Oh good, I didn't understand and probably never will, being a bot. |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Maybe some day you'll get to be a real boy. |
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wahanui |
oleonard: what? |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Just go easy on the lies and cigar-smoking. |
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wahanui |
oleonard: i'm not following you... |
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slef |
wahanui: no? |
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wahanui |
http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg |
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drojf |
would be cool if somebody could try bug 9287. socialnetworks enabled by default is just wrong. |
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jcamins |
You know what I have forgotten to check during my pre-push QAing? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9287 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , socialnetworks is enabled by default |
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jcamins |
Copyright statements and licenses. |
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jcamins |
They are not optional, folks. |
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drojf |
wahanui: optional is <reply> whatever jcamins forgets to check is optional. |
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wahanui |
OK, drojf. |
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jcamins |
All code must be explicitly licensed, and any time you have substantially rewritten a file you should indicate your copyright. |
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drojf |
optional? |
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wahanui |
whatever jcamins forgets to check is optional. |
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oleonard |
...except templates, javascript, css, images, prefs, sql, etc, for some reason. |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
I was mostly just talking about .pl files. |
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jcamins |
Maybe I should assert droit moral over everything I push that does not have an explicit copyright statement. |
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drojf |
mind if i ask why there is no copyright information in the other files? |
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jcamins |
drojf: I think possibly because we consider them "data" files. I don't really know, though. |
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drojf |
(not that i want to have a copyright statement per sql line) |
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jcamins |
You only need to add copyright statements when you have substantially rewritten a file or created a new file. |
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jcamins |
But, for example, a file created in December 2012 by someone in the US should not be copyright 2010 BibLibre. |
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drojf |
i was confused by that. i might have added myself somewhere after putting a few more lines in because i thought that is what i am supposed to do |
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drojf |
haha no it shouldn't. good old copy and paste |
| 16:02 |
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jcamins |
I certainly wouldn't reject a patch for being overly punctilious about copyright statements. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
Bug 7919 broke the new patron menu on members-home.pl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes) |
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jcamins |
How so? |
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jcamins |
It worked for me. |
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oleonard |
categorycodes are not passed to the template for use in the "new patron" menu |
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jcamins |
*Works |
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oleonard |
So if I click "Child" I get the "new adult patron" form instead |
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jcamins |
Ooh, you're right. |
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oleonard |
git bisect blames that 7919 |
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jcamins |
Makes sense. |
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jcamins |
That's the last patch to have touched that. |
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jcamins |
I imagine it's a pretty easy fix. |
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jcamins |
khall: how are you testing SIP patches? |
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khall |
not sure what you mean, did I so a bad patch? |
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khall |
I just use telnet to the sip server |
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jcamins |
No, I just don't have a good SIP client and was wondering what you used. |
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khall |
yeah, I've just been hand writing everything. We should write a sip testing cli script |
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khall |
I have the skeleton for one |
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khall |
it can log in, and request the data for a user |
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khall |
I'll post it as a patch, it'll be a start at least |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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khall |
np! |
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JoeLib001 |
Hello. :-) |
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JoeLib001 |
I just upgraded to Koha 3.10 and my OPAC has a template issue or something now. It is located at http://koha.swau.edu |
| 16:59 |
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JoeLib001 |
Anyone have a suggestion as where I should go to fix my problem? |
| 16:59 |
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jcamins |
There was a thread on the mailing list discussing this. |
| 16:59 |
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jcamins |
I don't have a link, but it has instructions. |
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JoeLib001 |
Ah, ok. I am on the list. I will check it out. |
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oleonard |
JoeLib001: Look for "OPAC interface fail with Koha3.10.000 on ubuntu 12.04" |
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oleonard |
Is Bug 5888 normal-view-only because XSLT is hard, or is it offered as a way to choose not to have it? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , opac-detail subject/author links improvements |
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jcamins |
oleonard: somewhere between the two. |
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oleonard |
I'm wondering if we don't need a system preference for it. |
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oleonard |
I think I would want to be able to turn it off for my patrons |
| 17:01 |
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JoeLib001 |
Thanks, I found it. |
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khall |
jcamins: bug 9288 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add a script to test SIP from the command line |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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oleonard |
Come to think of it, I wonder why 5888 doesn't simply offer a link at the end of the list of subjects offering "more subject searches" or something like that. The menu is the same each time except for the checkbox. |
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JoeLib001 |
Do I truly want to move those files or just copy those files? |
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drojf |
JoeLib001: i would go with copying |
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jcamins |
Or symlinking. |
| 17:08 |
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drojf |
yes |
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cait |
bug 5888 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , opac-detail subject/author links improvements |
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JoeLib001 |
Ok, thanks. I copied them and now it looks good again. ;-) |
| 17:09 |
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drojf |
cait: do you think i would manage a koha installation within a 5 minute lightning "talk" at inetbib? ;) |
| 17:09 |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
with packages |
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cait |
and some things preinstalled |
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cait |
totally |
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drojf |
eduroam is slow |
| 17:10 |
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drojf |
mabye a local repo :) |
| 17:10 |
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cait |
maybe :) |
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cait |
or cheat a little and have koha-common installed already :) |
| 17:10 |
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drojf |
lol |
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JoeLib001 |
HAhahahahaha! |
| 17:10 |
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cait |
the cooks in the shows do it all the time! |
| 17:11 |
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drojf |
true. lol |
| 17:11 |
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jcamins |
drojf: set up an apt cache. |
| 17:11 |
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JoeLib001 |
True. :-) |
| 17:11 |
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jcamins |
I use apt-cacher-ng. |
| 17:11 |
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drojf |
"here, let's have a look at the command… aaaand here we are, all done. yummy koha" |
| 17:11 |
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cait |
but maybe point out in the end that the work doesn#t end with installing it :) |
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* jcamins |
goes to eat some lunch. |
| 17:12 |
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drojf |
heh i made him hungry |
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JoeLib001 |
Hehe |
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cait |
you made me hungry too :) |
| 17:13 |
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drojf |
hmm that reminds me. i wanted to find out if i can have a rudimentary apt repository on my webspace w/o root access |
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JoeLib001 |
Thanks again for the help everyone. :-) |
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JoeLib001 |
Bye. |
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drojf |
bye Jo |
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drojf |
too fast |
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slef |
drojf: git update-server-info, sy... no, wait, wrong repository |
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slef |
drojf: yes, make the repository elsewhere, then mirror it to the webspace. Why not? |
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drojf |
slef: yes mirroring was what came out of my first searches a few days ago, have not looked into it since then but it sounded do-able |
| 17:21 |
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drojf |
so, why not have a little of everything on my webost for like 2€/month ;) |
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drojf |
webhost even |
| 17:22 |
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drojf |
hm. wouldn't hurt to have git too :D |
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slef |
git over http is pretty bad but works |
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drojf |
bad in what way? |
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slef |
inefficient IIRC |
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slef |
lots of requests for most actions |
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slef |
plus you have to remember update-server-info |
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slef |
anyway, will your webhost get upset if you start transferring much and lock you down? |
| 17:24 |
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slef |
(not 1&1 is it? ;-) ) |
| 17:24 |
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drojf |
i will find out eventually ;) no, it's ovh, french company |
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vfernandes |
for today i'm full of translations... |
| 17:42 |
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vfernandes |
3.8 for portuguese is almost at 70% |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins |
vfernandes++ |
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vfernandes |
i'm the second person with most submissions on koha translate... :) |
| 17:43 |
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jcamins |
vfernades++ # you deserve double karma for that! |
| 17:43 |
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vfernandes |
yeah! :P |
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vfernandes |
at the end of the year I will be the one with most submissions... I need to finish the 3.8 translation until then |
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vfernandes |
:D |
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slef |
can someone remind me how to avoid updatedatabase conflicts on merge or can't we? |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
slef: sometimes adding an extra line before your updatedatabase stanza helps. |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
Sometimes it doesn't. |
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jcamins |
Hard to tell. |
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* oleonard |
will be back in a bit |
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slef |
jcamins: I think it's something like 2 or 3 blank lines before and after but I don't remember and didn't find it on the wiki. |
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jcamins |
slef: I've never been able to figure it out and make it work consistently. |
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oleonard |
Ugh. |
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cait |
:( |
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vfernandes |
:/ |
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gmcharlt |
:( |
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drojf |
are there some guidelines about changing koha database structure available? i don't think i have ever done that besides adding sysprefs |
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slef |
wahanui: coding guidelines? |
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wahanui |
coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
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drojf |
ah right, i should have known that myself :) thanks |
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slef |
no it's not there |
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slef |
I thought it would be linked easily from there but I'm not finding it |
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jcamins |
I don't know of any guidelines. |
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mtompset |
Woo hoo! Chatzilla up and running. Sort of. :) |
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slef |
drojf: surprisingly, there doesn't seem to be any. Maybe it's whatever you can get away with without breaching a coding guideline or scaring the sheep. |
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drojf |
sort of… |
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gerundio |
nice weekend everyone |
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jcamins |
drojf: the RM requires that you normalize your database structures. |
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jcamins |
And PKs must have the form tablename_id |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins |
And other rules that I'll let you know as I come up with them. :P |
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drojf |
i just need to add a column to an existing table. the basic question is: where do i put the sql command in my oatch |
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drojf |
patch |
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slef |
updatedatabase |
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wahanui |
rumour has it updatedatabase is missing a curly bracket |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins |
What do you mean? |
| 18:19 |
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slef |
and also patch kohastructure.sql |
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jcamins |
You add it to kohastructure.sql, and add a revision to updatedatabase.pl which adds the column in the appropriate place. |
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jcamins |
(using ALTER TABLE) |
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drojf |
ok i know updatedatabase.pl, never touched kohastructure.sql before :) |
| 18:20 |
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slef |
they should always be updated together |
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drojf |
oops |
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slef |
but I realise the patch I offered wizzyrea didn't |
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slef |
so oops from me too |
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slef |
and I've been doing this almost 10 years :-/ |
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drojf |
that was not in my "how to add a syspref 101" |
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jcamins |
drojf: that does not apply to sysprefs. |
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slef |
ah adding a syspref is different I think |
| 18:21 |
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drojf |
ah. alright then |
| 18:21 |
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jcamins |
Yes. You add the syspref to sysprefs.sql. |
| 18:21 |
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mtompset |
There! Much better. Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:21 |
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slef |
koha will take defaults from the text file |
| 18:21 |
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drojf |
never added anything else before |
| 18:21 |
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slef |
mtompset: are you feeling alright? |
| 18:21 |
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cait |
sysprefs are database content, not strucutre :) |
| 18:22 |
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mtompset |
I was just installing Chatzilla for the first time on this computer. |
| 18:22 |
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mtompset |
I forgot how I configured it on the netbook. |
| 18:24 |
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maximep |
no ssd ? |
| 18:24 |
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mtompset |
Storage size is more important to me. |
| 18:24 |
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maximep |
get both |
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jcamins |
You know, that's something that Koha doesn't offer: the ability to scale using a graphics card. |
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maximep |
I couldnt do anything without a ssd |
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maximep |
id rather have a i5 in that case |
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maximep |
hehe |
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maximep |
zebra rebuilds on a gpu |
| 18:26 |
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maximep |
that would be funny :p |
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mtompset |
The i7-3770 is 3.4GHz and has nice hardware virtualization capabilities. :) |
| 18:26 |
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mtompset |
That's a cool idea, maximep, but I don't think anyone is going to try that. :) |
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maximep |
haha |
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* jcamins |
would try it. |
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jcamins |
If someone else did the work. |
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maximep |
it would probably be slower |
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maximep |
because of the time needed to structure the data for the gpu |
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mtompset |
Hey, with 2GB ram on a GPU, it should be possible. |
| 18:28 |
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mtompset |
Even with 1GB it should be possible, but I think you are right, maximep, about the structuring data. |
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mtompset |
Hmmm.... map data into polygons. :) |
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jcamins |
The ultimate in image library software management? An image library ILS written in OpenGL? |
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mtompset |
Well, lunch break/date with my wife. |
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jcamins |
drojf: good point. I had never thought about it like that. |
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drojf |
i see that the other columns in oai_sets_mapping table are set to NOT NULL. i want to introduce an operator column to choose between 'equal' and 'not equal' in OAI set mappings (was hardcoded 'equal' before). that means that mappings defined before that patch don't have a value in that column since it didn't exist when they were created. if the column is set to NOT NULL, will everything explode? does it only matter for new entries? new entries wouldn't |
| 18:52 |
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khall |
somewhat crazy question: would it be possible to generate a list of koha files that are modified by any patches to koha currently waiting for SO or QA? |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
khall: you could write a script to iterate through all the bugs and grep for the change lines. |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
drojf: you'd need to set the default to equal. I believe when the table is altered the default gets filled in. |
| 18:54 |
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jcamins |
You'd have to test that, of course. |
| 18:54 |
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drojf |
that would have been the next question :) ok i'll try that |
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khall |
here's why I ask. The koha-wide perltidy that paul proposed got shot down, but what if we could perltidy all the files that are not currently being modified by patches? It could even be a periodic, automatic process. |
| 18:55 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 18:55 |
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jcamins |
I'd rather see it done one file at a time, I think. |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
However, that seems like a good way to choose which files to start with. |
| 18:56 |
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khall |
How would I even get all the patches waiting for SO or QA? Is there an api? DB access? |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
I use pybugz. |
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jcamins |
alias pqa='bugz namedcmd --encoding=utf-8 "Passed QA"' |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
(etc.) |
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khall |
thanks! I'll have to take a look at that. |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
I don't remember if I patched pybugz. |
| 18:57 |
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cait |
khall: the problem was git blame will not give you useful results I think |
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cait |
for changes made |
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cait |
when you perltidy everything |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
cait: yeah, but for really messy files it might be worth it. |
| 18:58 |
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khall |
cait, I see. |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
For files that are not exceptionally messy, I don't think it's really necessary. |
| 18:59 |
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khall |
I agree, there are some files that are close to unreadable, terrible nesting for instance |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
jcamins: but if you are working on messy files - you can do it I tihnk? as part of your patches? at least you can make things better |
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jcamins |
cait: yeah, and that is what people should be doing. |
| 19:00 |
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khall |
yeah, I've done that a few times |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
However, if there are messy files that are often contentious, khall's point about perltidying them when there wouldn't be any conflicts is a very good one. |
| 19:02 |
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jcamins |
C4::Auth would be a good candidate... if there weren't already patches in the pipeline. |
| 19:03 |
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khall |
if we had a git hook that perltidy'd changed file automatically, we wouldn't have the git blame issue ( assuming all the devs used it ). |
| 19:03 |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure how safe that would be. |
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* khall |
loves well formatted code, but who doesn't? |
| 19:04 |
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khall |
I tend to agree automation is a bit iffy |
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cait |
khall: only after the initial perltidy that would work |
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khall |
indeed |
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cait |
and code changes and perltidy changes should always be separate |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
because it's so hard to see the changes if both is mixed up |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
but you already knew that :) |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins |
You know what would help even more than a global perltidy, without screwing up git blame? |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
Deleting unused code. |
| 19:06 |
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khall |
yeah, nothing's worse than rebasing a heavily tidy'd patch |
| 19:06 |
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cait |
yeah |
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cait |
and fixing bugs |
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wahanui |
i guess fixing bugs is the best way to do that |
| 19:06 |
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khall |
jcamins++ |
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khall |
if ( defined $itm->{'publictype'} ) { |
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khall |
# I can't actually find any case in which this is defined. --amoore 2008-12-09 |
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khall |
$itm->{ $itm->{'publictype'} } = 1; |
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khall |
} |
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khall |
opac/opac-detail.pl |
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jcamins |
There are at least 610 lines in C4::Search that are entirely unused. |
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oleonard |
The thing about working on Koha (which I love, by the way) is that if you're looking for something to fix, there's always plenty to choose from |
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khall |
lol |
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jcamins |
lol |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
oleonard: and you fix plenty |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
always amazed at how much you do and get done |
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oleonard |
Thanks cait |
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slef |
I've got this horrible feeling that overduerules.pl is nasty and I'm making it worse. |
| 19:39 |
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jcamins |
slef: I have this horrible feeling that you are right. |
| 19:39 |
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jatara |
Hi, all! Wondering if there was any way to prevent certain records from showing up in a OPAC search? |
| 19:39 |
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jcamins |
jatara: indeed there is! |
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jcamins |
It's called OPAC suppression. |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
You should be able to find it in the manual by searching for "suppression." |
| 19:41 |
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jatara |
@jcamins Wonderful! Thanks so much. |
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huginn |
jatara: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:42 |
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jatara |
"as soon as RDA is ready"? |
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jcamins |
jatara: @ is a signal to huginn that you are giving it a command. |
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khall |
is there a general dead code removal bug on bz anywhere? I'm not seeing one |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
khall: no. |
| 19:43 |
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khall |
thanks |
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jcamins |
And I'd prefer separate bugs rather than an omnibus bug. |
| 19:43 |
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khall |
cool, will do |
| 19:43 |
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jatara |
who is huginn? |
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wahanui |
huginn is a bot too veera, not a person |
| 19:43 |
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huginn |
wahanui: I suck |
| 19:43 |
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wahanui |
huginn: huh? |
| 19:43 |
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huginn |
wahanui: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:43 |
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wahanui |
...but i'll give you the answer just as soon as rda is <reply>... |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
Like, "Remove dead code in C4::Search," "Remove dead code in C4::Auth," etc. |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
(that first one already exists, of course) |
| 19:44 |
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khall |
will do |
| 19:44 |
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jcamins |
That was pretty awesome. |
| 19:44 |
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jcamins |
jatara: huginn is a bot. |
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nengard |
anyone know if the fines log tracks payments? It's not looking like it to me when I look at the data in the table |
| 19:45 |
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nengard |
but I want to confirm |
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cait |
which table are you looking at? |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
one of the logs does track payments |
| 19:46 |
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cait |
either statistics or action_logs |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
I think I did a report a while back... but that was not master, but 3.6 |
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nengard |
action_logs |
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nengard |
i'm looking for which library staff was logged in and made the payment |
| 19:48 |
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nengard |
the logs are on, but I see forgiven and dropbox mode and accruing fines ? but not payment |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
try statistics |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
if it's not there. that's a bug |
| 19:49 |
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nengard |
that doesn't tell you the librarian/staff member |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
I know payment and waives are tracked in 3.6 |
| 19:49 |
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nengard |
right, but not the who did it part |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
the library wanted to see what fines had been waived |
| 19:49 |
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cait |
hm not sur about that |
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nengard |
that's why i looked at the action_logs |
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nengard |
it tracks the 'who' |
| 19:49 |
|
* oleonard |
wonders why people always use @ in IRC |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: Twitter. |
| 19:50 |
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wahanui |
twitter is quite invasive of culture. :) |
| 19:50 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Really, you think so? I assumed for some reason that it predated that |
| 19:51 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I don't think I ever saw it when I was younger. |
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jatara |
@ is from twitter. Force of habit (but I was always using @ in chat from way back in the day -- even MUDs) |
| 19:52 |
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huginn |
jatara: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:53 |
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jatara |
*headdesk* |
| 19:53 |
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oleonard |
Maybe the syntax had some function in chat clients |
| 19:54 |
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jatara |
Well, it was an effective way to call someone's attention to your statement, esp if you were addressing them. |
| 19:59 |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
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jcamins |
Apparently 2:56 today was The time to not bother with capitalization. |
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slef |
jcamins: aRE YOU SUre abOUT THAT? |
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jcamins |
slef: that was my initial impression of the four e-mails that arrived simultaneously, yes. |
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slef |
jcamins: would you like me to refactor overduerules table and tools and then add my will-anyone-want-this enh on top? I've a bit more leeway than I thought earlier. |
| 20:03 |
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jcamins |
slef: that makes sense to me. It seems to me that if you just try to add your feature to what we have now, all we'll have is a worse mess. |
| 20:06 |
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slef |
jcamins: any thoughts on how to refactor it? And no, I'm staying out of changing the notice processing... eat the elephant one bite at a time! |
| 20:07 |
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slef |
jcamins: I'm thinking... |
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slef |
jcamins: overduerule_id,branchcode,categorycode,delay,letter,debarred,iteration |
| 20:09 |
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slef |
but I'm not sure if that will make other things hard to write |
| 20:09 |
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slef |
makes mine easier to write, just another boolean alongside debarred |
| 20:09 |
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slef |
and should it be overduerule_id or overduerules_id? |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins |
dorlol |
| 20:10 |
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slef |
wahanui: coding guidelines? |
| 20:10 |
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wahanui |
coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 20:10 |
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jcamins |
drojf: lol |
| 20:10 |
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jcamins |
^^ that's what I meant. |
| 20:10 |
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slef |
ah phew |
| 20:10 |
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slef |
I feared I'd rendered you insane with the nasty overduerules. |
| 20:10 |
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jcamins |
slef: I'm not very familiar with the overdue rules. However, that makes sense to me. |
| 20:11 |
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slef |
SQL7: Primary keys - If you add a table to Koha, the table must have a primary key, and the primary key name must be columnname_id (color_id for example) |
| 20:11 |
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slef |
ok, so what's columnname? |
| 20:11 |
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* jcamins |
was just about to ask that. |
| 20:12 |
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slef |
should that be tablename, perhaps? |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
? |
| 20:12 |
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jcamins |
I think that should be tablename. |
| 20:12 |
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* slef |
edits |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
OH |
| 20:13 |
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jcamins |
slef: and your thought is that you can add a "hold" iteration? |
| 20:13 |
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slef |
jcamins: yes - ideally, a syspref-controlled binary hold iteration outside the standard loop. |
| 20:14 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me. |
| 20:15 |
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jcamins |
Actually, maybe better to have trigger_type and iteration? |
| 20:15 |
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slef |
other random grumpiness: if you edit the wiki, please put a log message in. Watchers are bored of your blank log messages and if you make them check the wiki just to see what you changed, they might start reverting it just for fun. ;) |
| 20:16 |
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slef |
jcamins: where trigger_type is in ('holds','standard')? |
| 20:16 |
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slef |
s/standard/default/ |
| 20:17 |
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slef |
dinnertime bblortomorrow |
| 20:17 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 20:17 |
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jcamins |
Eventually we could offer more than three overdue notices. |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
libraries would like that |
| 20:18 |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:18 |
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slef |
well, this refactoring would permit that at cronjob and database, but I've no idea how to write the web interface to it... now really gone |
| 20:19 |
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* jcamins |
doesn't really see that the web interface has to be changed at present. |
| 20:19 |
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jcamins |
When a developer has sponsorship to add more than three overdue notices it can be changed. |
| 20:20 |
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* cait |
agrees |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
as long as it still works with current interface of course ) |
| 20:21 |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:21 |
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jcamins |
There is one person on a cataloging mailing list I subscribe to who -- I swear -- does not do a single thing without e-mailing the list. |
| 20:22 |
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jcamins |
"I just opened a file with the extension [redacted] that opened in a program called [redacted viewer]." |
| 20:22 |
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jcamins |
"I just cataloged a book [redacted]." |
| 20:26 |
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oleonard |
Just a play by play? No questions involved? |
| 20:26 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: about half the time there's a question that could be answered with common sense or a simple Google query using the subject of his e-mail. |
| 20:27 |
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oleonard |
Sounds like someone who needs to hang out in a catalogers' IRC channel |
| 20:27 |
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jcamins |
Yep. |
| 20:28 |
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jcamins |
On an IRC channel I'd probably enjoy his missives. |
| 20:28 |
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jcamins |
When each and every one has to be deleted, they mostly just irritate me terribly. |
| 20:28 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 20:28 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -0.4°C (9:13 PM CET on December 14, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:28 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 20:28 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.8°C (9:25 PM CET on December 14, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:47 |
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druthb |
@wunder 66046 |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 11.5°C (2:44 PM CST on December 14, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:47 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: how does bug 9294 affect translation? |
| 20:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move JavaScript out of circulation template |
| 20:47 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: It doesn't, because we still have to keep strings in the template for translation |
| 20:48 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: okay, so the strings remain in the tt files? |
| 20:48 |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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oleonard |
We can't completely eliminate embedded javascript until we come up with a way around that |
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cait |
:) |
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Good night, #koha. |
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oleonard |
See you later #koha |
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