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eythian |
anyone have a copy of the group photo from KohaCon in Edinburgh? |
| 01:27 |
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wizzyrea |
i am CERTAIN it is on a website somewhere - maybe even koha-community.org |
| 01:27 |
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eythian |
ah yep, found it |
| 01:27 |
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wizzyrea |
sweet :) |
| 01:27 |
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eythian |
wahanui: kohacon |
| 01:27 |
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wahanui |
eythian: what? |
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eythian |
wahanui: kohacon photo |
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wahanui |
eythian: excuse me? |
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eythian |
wahanui: kohacon photo is http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/7162934703/ |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
what'd I do |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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wizzyrea |
<.< |
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jcamins |
The patch. |
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wahanui |
rumour has it the patch is pretty old now, good luck |
| 01:45 |
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wizzyrea |
OH |
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wizzyrea |
well yes :) |
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wizzyrea |
i'm still sorting out the last part of that. |
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wizzyrea |
(barcode) |
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wizzyrea |
because that still submits the form wrongly |
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wizzyrea |
but whatever. |
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jcamins |
Awesome! |
| 02:42 |
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jcamins |
When I intentionally misconfigure QP, I get lousy search results, but no horrible error messages. |
| 02:56 |
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jcamins |
Uploaded. |
| 03:02 |
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jcamins |
Okay, folks. Come and get it while it's hot! |
| 03:02 |
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jcamins |
QueryParser! |
| 03:02 |
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jcamins |
Bug 9239! |
| 03:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
| 03:03 |
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wizzyrea |
ooo! |
| 03:04 |
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jcamins |
Try it, you'll like it! |
| 03:04 |
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jcamins |
And while you're at it, sign off on bug 9183. |
| 03:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9183 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , C4::Search should only have one ZOOM event loop |
| 03:04 |
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jcamins |
Oh, it's already signed off. |
| 03:08 |
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* wizzyrea |
makes a mad face at bugzilla |
| 03:56 |
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mtj |
hey peepz, anyone about for a random foreign-key brain-slap… ? |
| 03:57 |
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eythian |
wahanui: ask |
| 03:57 |
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wahanui |
Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 03:57 |
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mtj |
i think ive found the cause of this bug 8471 |
| 03:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8471 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , loading an sql file into mysql, often fails when loading the 'letter' table |
| 03:57 |
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eythian |
:) |
| 03:57 |
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eythian |
oh hey, that'd be good. |
| 03:57 |
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eythian |
that one always bugs me |
| 03:58 |
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mtj |
it's poss. a glitchy fk constraint in mysql-struct.sql |
| 03:58 |
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mtj |
heres a fix -> http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=he[…]aa417b89cb0adac03 |
| 03:59 |
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mtj |
the 'branchcode' column refered too, in the FK constraint does not exist? |
| 04:00 |
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mtj |
so, thats my hunch… i was curious on someone elses opinionion |
| 04:03 |
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mtj |
so, if you load /installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql into a db, then a koha.sql - you get that error |
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eythian |
I'm surprised it lets the FK be created in the first place then |
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mtj |
$ mysql koha < /installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql |
| 04:03 |
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eythian |
ah |
| 04:03 |
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eythian |
yeah, that sounds quite plausible |
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mtj |
$ mysql koha < ./my-koha.sql |
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mtj |
ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 3237: Can't create table 'koha.letter' (errno: 150) |
| 04:04 |
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mtj |
but, after applying the patch… no error |
| 04:04 |
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eythian |
tricky |
| 04:04 |
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eythian |
when you submit a patch, document the hell out of it giving examples of error messages. I've spent a bit of time googling that error to figure it out without success. |
| 04:04 |
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wajasu |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]e_transports.html |
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mtj |
wajasu, aaah perfect :) |
| 04:07 |
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mtj |
the 'letter' table contains no 'branchcode' column, so its a glitchy FK |
| 04:08 |
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mtj |
eythian, hell yeah, ive spent a buncha time too :/ |
| 04:08 |
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eythian |
it does contain the branchcode column in the schema link |
| 04:09 |
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wajasu |
note: Generated by SchemaSpy on Fri Sep 28 09:20 NZST 2012 |
| 04:09 |
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wajasu |
so maybe we should ask rangi to regenerate it since the release. |
| 04:10 |
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mtj |
i wonder if we (aka rangi) could get SchemaSpy to do a nightly cron refresh? |
| 04:11 |
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mtj |
does the refresh take so long, that its a no-go? |
| 04:12 |
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eythian |
dunno, not particularly wrong as far as I know |
| 04:12 |
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eythian |
*long |
| 04:12 |
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wajasu |
i've run it and it churns for about 10 to 20 minutes i recall. |
| 04:12 |
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mtj |
re: 8471, i guess i might need to look for other references to letter.branchcode |
| 04:13 |
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mtj |
is the fix... correct the FK , or add the missing 'branchcode' column?! |
| 04:15 |
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mtj |
rangi, what you think? re: SchemaSpy nighly cron |
| 04:16 |
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wajasu |
if the branchcode was recently removed, maybe the schemspy is out of date. i would look at the git history to see who might have changed the structure/contstraint. |
| 04:18 |
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mtj |
bah, letter.branchcode *does* exist after all |
| 04:18 |
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mtj |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]ables/letter.html |
| 04:19 |
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eythian |
it's not a new bug, it's been there for a long time |
| 04:21 |
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mtj |
yeah, it has indeed :/ |
| 04:22 |
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wajasu |
well, it seems as if letters are sent cross-branch, where it might have been per-branch before? |
| 04:23 |
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mtj |
its such a random bug to reproduce even |
| 04:24 |
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mtj |
'show engine innodb status' seems to show that its the 'message_transports_ibfk_3' constraint, that its barfing on |
| 04:27 |
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wajasu |
if they removed the constraint for the branchcode, chances are you will get the error when just module and code are specified. |
| 04:27 |
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wajasu |
for a DB that has the prior dataset. |
| 04:28 |
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wajasu |
i suspect the branchcode is to track from which branch the letter was sent, |
| 04:29 |
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wajasu |
and there are probably notices that get sent with no specfic branchcode (needed for some reason) |
| 04:34 |
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mtj |
hmm, i think the problem for me is that, im attempting to load an old 3.6 db, after a new 3.8 or master db |
| 04:38 |
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mtj |
ok, wow… ^^ that theory seems to be correct! :) |
| 04:40 |
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mtj |
attempting to load in an old koha-3.6 db, after a koha-3.8 db, causes the 'Can't create table 'koha.letter' error |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
hmm OK. maybe that's why I haven't noticed it for a while. Though I haven't been doing a lot of database loading anyway |
| 04:41 |
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mtj |
… because the existing koha-3.8 db has some constraints/FKs that dont exist in the older 3.6 db |
| 04:42 |
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mtj |
so, good news is - that seems to be the cause |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
I have a 'delete everything' script that makes sure everything has been deleted that I tend to use. |
| 04:42 |
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mtj |
bad news is… how to fix that? |
| 04:42 |
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mtj |
the 'drop db koha; create db koha' seems to be the quick-fix |
| 04:43 |
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wajasu |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bc76efa3cc9cc00d7 |
| 04:46 |
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wajasu |
maybe if your db has one branch, you can update the table with its branchcode, then dump it and load it. |
| 04:48 |
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mtj |
its also bizare that the 'message_transports_ibfk_3' constraint is the *only* one that fails |
| 04:48 |
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mtj |
if you delete it from the .sql file, the load is successful |
| 04:48 |
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wajasu |
is the branchcode nullable in your older version? |
| 04:49 |
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Manderson |
Hey, so I have a modified version of koha-zebra-ctl.sh that works with Redhat. I am making reference to it in my wiki page, but not quite sure that the wiki is the best place for it. Any ideas where I should put this? |
| 04:51 |
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mtj |
Manderson, the wiki is probably a good start - but consider logging a bug, and sending it as a patch? |
| 04:52 |
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mtj |
wajasu, letter.branchcode doesnt exist in my old (3.6.4) db |
| 04:52 |
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wajasu |
i know what you need to do. |
| 04:53 |
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wajasu |
if your old db is a scrtach owrk db, try to alter the table to add branchcode http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cc9cc00d7#patch18 |
| 04:54 |
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wajasu |
and that update all the rows with your branchcode. then dump the table. |
| 04:54 |
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wajasu |
then load it in the new db. |
| 04:55 |
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mtj |
wajasu, what will that prove? |
| 04:56 |
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wajasu |
oh yeah. you aren't trying to migrate. |
| 04:57 |
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wajasu |
you are trying to fix the bug. |
| 04:58 |
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wajasu |
well, then write a migration script, to do just that (fine for one branch case), or write instructions for one who migrates and attach it to the bug. |
| 04:59 |
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wajasu |
i guess no update script was done. |
| 05:00 |
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mtj |
hmm, you are missing the problem |
| 05:00 |
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wajasu |
yeah. |
| 05:01 |
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mtj |
the problem is… loading a sql file into mysql sometime fails |
| 05:01 |
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mtj |
$ mysql koha < ./my_koha.sql |
| 05:02 |
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wajasu |
i suspect it fails because the old version letters table data doesn't have any branchcode column at all. so the contraint fails. |
| 05:02 |
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mtj |
yep, something like that :) |
| 05:03 |
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eythian |
tbh, it'll only be a problem while we're going back and forth across a particular version boundry, eventually it should become less of an issue as we have fewer 3.6 installations to deal with |
| 05:03 |
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wajasu |
so we have to manufacture the column. |
| 05:04 |
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mtj |
i would have thought mysql would have 'disabled' those FK checks, when loading a dumped .sql file |
| 05:04 |
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eythian |
is there an instruction for that in the dump? |
| 05:04 |
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mtj |
SET foreign_key_checks = 0; SET foreign_key_checks = 1; etc... |
| 05:05 |
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eythian |
but is it in there? |
| 05:05 |
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wajasu |
the issue i see is that 3.6 and prior does support multiple branches. so only if they ran as one branch could we populate the column based on that. |
| 05:05 |
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mtj |
yeah, theres usually a bunch of those instructions, at the top/bottom of a dumped .sql file |
| 05:06 |
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eythian |
/*!40014 SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=@@FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS, FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0 */; |
| 05:07 |
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eythian |
though I don't know if that's a real comment or some strange mysql thing |
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wajasu |
you might get away with suspending checks, if we don't edit the record. but you could even check to see if upon an edit/save, that we supply the branchcode. |
| 05:08 |
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wajasu |
i've only seen letters as output (read for mail, etc). |
| 05:09 |
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eythian |
editing records isn't an issue if you're trying to replace it |
| 05:09 |
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wajasu |
are there the generated letters? or templates? |
| 05:09 |
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eythian |
it doesn't matter |
| 05:09 |
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wajasu |
ok |
| 05:09 |
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eythian |
the problem is you want to delete the table and recreate it and you can't |
| 05:10 |
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mtj |
eythian, ^^ yep - ive got those 'SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS' lines in my files, too |
| 05:15 |
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mtj |
adding the following to the start of the .sql , fixes the load error |
| 05:15 |
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mtj |
DROP database IF EXISTS `head`; |
| 05:15 |
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mtj |
create database `head`; |
| 05:15 |
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mtj |
use `head`; |
| 05:15 |
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wajasu |
i recently dumped, a 3.0x koha into 3.10 and didn't get any complaints. my branchcodes are not set. |
| 05:16 |
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mtj |
wajasu, the problem seems to be loading an older version, after an newer version |
| 05:16 |
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eythian |
in particular, loading over the top of an existing one |
| 05:16 |
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mtj |
so, load a 3.10, then load your 3.0... |
| 05:16 |
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wajasu |
ahh |
| 05:16 |
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eythian |
mtj: of course those statements will fix it, they delete everything. |
| 05:16 |
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eythian |
but we can't have that |
| 05:17 |
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mtj |
yeah, i kinda stated the obvious |
| 05:18 |
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wajasu |
copy the newer into a temp table, load the older, then add the newer. maybe? |
| 05:18 |
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mtj |
anyhoo, as eythian said, its now a knownish problem, with a workaround |
| 05:19 |
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mtj |
i though i was going to nail that bug!, but … not to be :) |
| 05:23 |
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eythian |
wajasu: you don't have control over anything like that, you're loading a database dump |
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mtj |
wajasu, fyi: heres my comment on the bug -> http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ug.cgi?id=8471#c2 |
| 05:35 |
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huginn |
Bug 8471: trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , loading an sql file into mysql, often fails when loading the 'letter' table |
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rangi |
http://instagram.com/p/TIKH3posO3/ thats about 100m from my house |
| 07:11 |
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cait |
oooh |
| 07:11 |
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cait |
nice |
| 07:14 |
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alex_a_ |
bonjour cait |
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alex_a_ |
bonjour rangi |
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rangi |
hi alex_a_ |
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cait |
hi alex_a_ |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
what's up, reiveune |
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rangi |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
hi rangi |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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clrh |
helo |
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kf |
hi clrh |
| 08:22 |
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rangi |
hi kf, gaetan_B and clrh |
| 08:22 |
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clrh |
hello kf and rangi |
| 08:22 |
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clrh |
:) |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
:) |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
konstanz is covered in snow, how is the weather in marseille? |
| 08:51 |
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kf |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0°C (9:30 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
its too hot |
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rangi |
18 is yuck for sleeping |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder arguineguin |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:55 |
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magnuse |
@wunder las palmas |
| 08:55 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:55 |
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magnuse |
@wunder las palmas, spain |
| 08:55 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:55 |
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magnuse |
pft |
| 08:56 |
|
* magnuse |
travels south today |
| 08:56 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 08:56 |
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rangi |
for work? |
| 09:01 |
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rangi |
i forgot how pretty the rijksmuseum catalogue is |
| 09:01 |
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rangi |
http://library.rijksmuseum.nl/[…]-search.pl?q=fish |
| 09:01 |
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rangi |
marcelr++ |
| 09:03 |
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magnuse |
wow, that is an awesome opac! |
| 09:04 |
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kf |
totally is |
| 09:04 |
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kf |
I love the itemtype selected on advanced search |
| 09:04 |
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kf |
marcelr++ |
| 09:05 |
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kf |
magnuse: have a good holiday |
| 09:05 |
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magnuse |
marcelr++ |
| 09:05 |
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magnuse |
kf: thanks |
| 09:06 |
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rangi |
magnuse: yay have fun! |
| 09:06 |
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magnuse |
rangi: thanks! |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:09 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -2.6°C (9:43 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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kf |
morning drojf |
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rangi |
hi drojf |
| 09:10 |
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drojf |
morning kf and rangi :) |
| 09:11 |
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drojf |
wish i could work from bed |
| 09:12 |
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drojf |
kf: have you tried bug 4906? |
| 09:12 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1 |
| 09:12 |
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drojf |
or looked at it, regarding paul_p's comment |
| 09:13 |
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drojf |
i gave a version of 3.8.7+4906 to wildau for testing |
| 09:14 |
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kf |
drojf: not yet, requires some good test cases I think |
| 09:14 |
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kf |
oh interesting |
| 09:14 |
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wahanui |
i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 09:15 |
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kf |
I had chatted with khall about it before he send in the patch |
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kf |
but then I got covered with lots of other things :( |
| 09:15 |
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kf |
not sure the description on the patch is accurate - I would like to test and see how it works |
| 09:15 |
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kf |
we had talked about the formula and it might work for our problem, just not sure |
| 09:17 |
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drojf |
i don't have any experience with fines because we don't have any, but the bug sounds like a problem wildau was having. i suppose they will see if it fixes it for them |
| 09:18 |
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kf |
bit hard to test in production maybe... well a good test, but hard if something is still off |
| 09:18 |
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kf |
and it might work for one confguration and not for another |
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drojf |
that is also where the question about database numbering came from. for the test version i just used the next db revision number now, but i don't know if that is a good idea for a production system |
| 09:21 |
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kf |
you will hae to be careful on update |
| 09:21 |
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kf |
resetting the version by 1 before you run it - in the database |
| 09:21 |
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kf |
I think |
| 09:22 |
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drojf |
ah yes, that sounds like a good idea |
| 09:22 |
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drojf |
isn't there even a syspref with the number? i thought there was but could not find it last night |
| 09:23 |
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kf |
local use tab :) |
| 09:23 |
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drojf |
ah, the one i never look at :) thanks |
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kf |
yeah, I recently 'rediscovered' it |
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drojf |
but that number is not what it should be for that instance, it's just 3.0807000 |
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kf |
oh? |
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kf |
and what does about say? |
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kf |
ah |
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drojf |
the same, i was wondering about that last night |
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kf |
maybe they didn't apply it |
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kf |
or reset it |
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drojf |
hm. i only checked if the syspref is there |
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drojf |
maybe the db stuff isn't ^^ |
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kf |
it's not bad actually |
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kf |
I think if you turn it on/off the pref might get created |
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drojf |
i will find about that later :) |
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drojf |
find out |
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kf |
if you have access to reports you can check |
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drojf |
it's not in my updatedatabase file. i guess something went wrong there |
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drojf |
ah, it is, wrong ssh session, wrong koha ;) |
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kf |
lol |
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drojf |
did it manually and got a duplicate entry error for the grace syspref. i suppose that means you were right about the db entry getting created when changing the pref |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
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kf |
drojf: yay ;) |
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kf |
hi vfernandes |
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vfernandes |
koha translate interface is damn slow :/ |
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drojf |
vfernandes: it's being worked on |
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kf |
vfernandes: it will move to a new server soon |
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vfernandes |
humm nice :) |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
can't log into the koha wiki... |
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kf |
is it me or something with the wiki? |
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* kf |
gives up |
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magnuse |
kf: works for me |
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clrh |
tweetbot`: just repeat #kohails hashtag ? |
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drojf |
clrh: that's what i think |
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drojf |
try it ;) |
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kf |
gmcharlt: around? |
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kf |
@later tell gmcharlt I got problems logging into the wiki - I tried sending myself a new password, but that doesn't work too - maybe you can use some magic? |
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huginn |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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kf |
:( |
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magnuse |
have fun, #koha! |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: around? |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... |
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jcamins |
Could someone please try deleting an authorized value? |
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jcamins |
Also, could someone please confirm that it is possible to check out books with the web-based SCO still? |
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tcohen |
mornin #koha |
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jcamins |
paul_p: does the web-based SCO work for you under Plack? |
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jcamins |
Ah-ha. |
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jcamins |
The selfcheck must have superlibrarian privileges. |
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paul_p |
jcamins well, I tested with an account with superlibrarian privileges, it's true (and with plack) |
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* paul_p |
at a meeting with our greek partners |
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* jcamins |
stops reviewing patches for pushing. |
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tcohen |
why jcamins? whhhhhhyyyyy? |
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kf |
jcamins: because he has a life outside koha... maybe |
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kf |
and that was for tcohen :P |
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tcohen |
:-P |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0897d7279337e9b16> / Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0137a58fa58290b1c> / Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]mitdiff;h=4294869 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #975 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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jcamins |
tcohen: because I am easily annoyed in the morning, and only one patch out of the five I reviewed was not dubious. |
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tcohen |
ouch |
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kf |
you pushed my patch? :P |
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* tcohen |
thinks we need to feed the RM with super-charged coffee in the morning |
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kf |
I think feeding him with well tested patches that are not dubious could work too :) |
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jcamins |
kf: yes, that's the only one. |
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jcamins |
Well, no, I also pushed bug 9033, but that patch didn't fix the problem it purported to, it just made it less broken. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Wide character error in runreport.pl |
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H |
Hey all |
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kf |
bug 9144 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9144 trivial, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Passed QA , bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors |
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tcohen |
H: bug 9267 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9267 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken |
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H |
is that me ? ;) |
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H |
ah indeed |
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H |
reeding it |
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H |
if my library is online i post the url ... still have to do the webinstall and the data import (at the moment i cant at the server ip adres in my browser did mail the network people here (apache is installed (hopefully i did it correct))) |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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H |
wave |
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* jcamins |
grumbles. |
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jcamins |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
i guess jcamins is brilliant |
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jcamins |
Huh? |
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jcamins |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
you are brilliant |
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jcamins |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
well, jcamins is brilliant |
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jcamins |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
you are very, very irascible. |
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jcamins |
There we go. |
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kf |
why don't we have a timestamp in deleteditems? :( |
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oleonard |
So, has anyone ever seen an authorized value image appear in the OPAC search results? And I'm not talking about item type images. |
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oleonard |
git blame says this code is from 2008, and I don't remember ever seeing it in action. |
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jcamins |
Ooh! A puzzle! |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I have not, if we're not talking about item types. |
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kf |
oleonard: never tried it |
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jcamins |
Could someone please try deleting an authorized value, while we're on the subject? |
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oleonard |
Sure |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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oleonard |
Seems to work fine jcamins |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Guess it's a combination of DEBUG and/or Plack. |
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jcamins |
Okay, patched. |
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francharb |
hi |
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oleonard |
SMU++ # I'm glad they're back with real Koha |
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khall |
hey all, does anyone know if it's possible to search MARC leader information via zebra? |
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jcamins |
khall: I actually do not. |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
bib-level is an example |
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kf |
if I am not mistaken totally |
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kf |
hm I might be, always confuse all the controlfields :( |
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khall |
indeed, bib level is 07 of the leader! |
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kf |
oh thx |
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kf |
I got worreid :) |
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khall |
thanks! I'll go poke around the zebra configuration files and see what I find |
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kf |
oleonard: do you know when they switched? |
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oleonard |
it wasn't too long ago I think |
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jcamins |
Yeah, you just put it in the <marc:record> template. |
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kf |
jcamins: for dom? |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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kf |
really have to look at those configuration files sometime :) |
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kf |
they sound like fun |
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jcamins |
http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]-domxml-conf.html |
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jcamins |
I like the last example in 3.3. |
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oleonard |
kf: http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]ywater-solutions/ |
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drojf |
that are not the grs-1 guts of a zebra for sure ;) |
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jcamins |
You may find it somewhat less hysterically funny than I do, of course. |
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khall |
kf: where would one search on bib-level? I don't see that in the advanced search |
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kf |
... which has opportunities for great power and wizardry as well as grande disaster. |
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jcamins |
khall: it's used in analytic tracings. |
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kf |
khall: it has not been implemented there yet... see |
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khall |
gotcha, over my head |
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* khall |
needs to get his mls |
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kf |
khall: you can limit to serials using it |
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kf |
look at the advanced search at the link :) |
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druthb |
@quote add kf: ... which has opportunities for great power and wizardry as well as grande disaster. |
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huginn |
druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #223 added. |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
I quoted the zebra documentation jcamins pointed to |
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kf |
I am not poetic like that :) |
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vfernandes |
sorry jcamins_away, I was out for lunch |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #975: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/975/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* julian.maurice: Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Wide character error in runreport.pl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add REPORT_GROUP to authorised values sample data |
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oleonard |
Well what do you know, the authorised value display in OPAC results worked a long time ago |
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drojf |
seeing the sponsoring information, does hourly loans work with fines nowadays? |
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kf |
I think the work around is probably to have the fine script running often |
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kf |
? |
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libsysguy |
drojf it really depends on the day of the week |
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libsysguy |
it seems like its broken more than its working |
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drojf |
i'm so glad we don't have fines :P |
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* oleonard |
too |
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kf |
we have fines, but not hourly |
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kf |
but fine syntax in notices is broken too... *sigh* |
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kf |
gmcharlt? |
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wahanui |
somebody said gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology. |
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gmcharlt |
kf: hmm? |
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kf |
oh you are here |
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kf |
sec just saving |
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kf |
I can not log into the wiki any longer |
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kf |
and have no idea why :( |
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kf |
it always says wrong passwort, even for the temporary password it send me |
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gmcharlt |
your account is Kfischer? |
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kf |
yep |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jcamins |
Awww! |
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jcamins |
My client's little kitten just ran across the room, tripped over the door frame, discover s/he couldn't get any traction on tile, and slid into a heap against a wall. |
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druthb |
awr! |
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jcamins |
S/he is now somewhere else complaining loudly. |
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jcamins |
That time it tripped over the doorframe but recovered enough to not go flying. |
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gmcharlt |
@later tell cait ok, you should be able to log in now; MediaWiki was hanging on to old cached versions of user objects for some reason |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
I don't think I've ever written so much test plan for a 4-line correction (Bug 9276) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9276 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Display of biblio-level authorized values on OPAC search results broken |
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oleonard |
I didn't set out to correct a feature I didn't know existed and didn't want to use, I was just trying to validate the damn template. |
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mib_okkapv |
hello |
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oleonard |
Hi mib_okkapv |
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mib_okkapv |
I would like to know how to show or hide tags... ? :) |
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jcamins |
oleonard: it's a cool feature, though! |
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jcamins |
One which I will make a point of finding a use for so that you can feel your time was well-spent. |
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oleonard |
mib_okkapv: In what context? |
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mib_okkapv |
in the cataloguing of create new records :) |
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oleonard |
mib_okkapv: Check the documentation on editing MARC frameworks |
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mib_okkapv |
for example I have 50 tags but I would like to use only 30 tags |
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jcamins |
mib_okkapv: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]marcbibframeworks |
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jcamins |
Search for "hidden" |
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jcamins |
It's about a quarter of the way down the page. |
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jcamins |
wahanui: fortune? |
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wahanui |
no idea, jcamins |
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jcamins |
@fortune |
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huginn |
jcamins: Your goose is cooked. (Your current chick is burned up too!) |
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mib_okkapv |
ok thank you I am looking for i cannot use i will ask again thank you |
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mib_okkapv |
:) |
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mib_okkapv |
MARC frameworks › BKS framework structure › Tag 001 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints > Managed in tab >1 |
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mib_okkapv |
is this right? |
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jcamins |
mib_okkapv: what are you trying to do? |
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jcamins |
If you want to change what tab the 001 field is displayed in, then yes. |
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jcamins |
Otherwise, no. |
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mib_okkapv |
mmmm ok :) but if the 40 field i would like to display? once created in the framework |
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mib_okkapv |
for example... |
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jcamins |
Then you change the visibility, as in the manual I sent you a link to. |
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mib_okkapv |
MARC frameworks › Books, Booklets, Workbooks (BKS) › Modify tag 040 > Authorized value ? |
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mib_okkapv |
I guess |
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jcamins |
No, "Hidden" |
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jcamins |
There's a screenshot in the manual, I think. |
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mib_okkapv |
BKS framework structure › Tag 038 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints > Advanced constraints > hidden :) |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
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mib_okkapv |
ahh i got it change the subfield tags to show the fields :) |
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mib_okkapv |
thankkkkkkkkk youuuuuuuuuuu :) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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mib_okkapv |
i am starting learning koha but i dont know where to start i used winisis |
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mib_okkapv |
the video tutoriales of bywater it is a right place to start? |
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oleonard |
Yes mib_okkapv, that's a good resource |
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mib_okkapv |
ok :) besides do you know where is a documentation of the koha structures? |
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mib_okkapv |
technical information about the ILS? |
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jcamins |
mib_okkapv: what do you mean? |
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* cait |
waves |
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jcamins |
There is not really any overarching "technical guide." |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
@later tell gmcharlt - works now :) many thanks! |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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mib_okkapv |
@ i see , books? manuals? tesis? |
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huginn |
mib_okkapv: I suck |
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jcamins |
mib_okkapv: the manual you have a link to. |
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jcamins |
The wiki is full of useful information. |
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jcamins |
wiki? |
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wahanui |
wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
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mib_okkapv |
yes i see... :( |
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mib_okkapv |
well thank you for the time spend :) |
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mib_okkapv |
I will apreciate it |
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jcamins |
If you're interested in the database structures, there's a thingy for that. |
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jcamins |
schema? |
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wahanui |
well, schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
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jcamins |
(I don't know what to call it) |
| 17:47 |
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jcamins |
And, of course, since Koha is open source the best thing you can do if you want to know how it works is look at the code! |
| 17:47 |
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jcamins |
git? |
| 17:47 |
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wahanui |
well, git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 17:48 |
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mib_okkapv |
yes the schema I got it but the information about modules, connections, etc etc |
| 17:48 |
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jcamins |
First question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
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mib_okkapv |
understand how it works at the glance :( |
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mib_okkapv |
how many kinds of type of archives exists? for example is a goal :) |
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jcamins |
How what works? |
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oleonard |
You can't tell at a glace how the whole thing works, there are too many parts |
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jcamins |
Koha comprises over eight hundred lines of code. |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
*eight hundred thousand |
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mib_okkapv |
:( |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
Eight hundred isn't very many at all. |
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mib_okkapv |
its is a huge for me |
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jcamins |
It is capable of running pretty much any type of library, from a personal library with 200 books to a national library with 8 million. |
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mib_okkapv |
I understand cds/isis structures very well |
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jcamins |
I think possibly you need to adjust your expectations. |
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jcamins |
I think I can speak for the original author of Koha when I say that *no one* knows how every part of Koha works perfectly. |
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mib_okkapv |
mmm I see |
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mib_okkapv |
but just at glace.. |
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mib_okkapv |
how works the parts |
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mib_okkapv |
itselfs each parts |
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jcamins |
I can't answer that question because to me that's like asking "how does Linux work at a glance?" |
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mib_okkapv |
jajaja yes i understand... |
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jcamins |
The best answer I could give you for "how does Linux work at a glance?" is "there's a kernel, which is central, and then there are a lot of other things that work together so that you can use your computer." |
| 17:57 |
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jcamins |
For Koha, I could say "there's a lot of code that runs on a server, data is stored in a database, searches are done using an external system called Zebra, and the user uses a web browser to manage their library." |
| 17:58 |
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jcamins |
But you didn't need me to tell you that, because you already know all these things from reading the "What is Koha?" page on the website. |
| 17:58 |
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mib_okkapv |
and the main part of code is perl done |
| 17:58 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 17:58 |
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khall |
I can't install Koha from master atm, I get this in Step 3: ERROR 1166 (42000) at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed ' |
| 17:58 |
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jcamins |
khall: there's a patch for that which requires sign-off. |
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khall |
whats the bug #? |
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wahanui |
i heard the bug # was there |
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jcamins |
I'm looking now. |
| 17:59 |
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jcamins |
Bug 9246. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9246 blocker, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Upon running koha installer, mysql "Error 1166 at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed" appears and crashes install. |
| 17:59 |
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jcamins |
Oh, wait, it's signed off! |
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jcamins |
QA team! QA 9246! |
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cait |
remind me in half an hour? |
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mib_okkapv |
ok thank you @jcamins |
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jcamins |
Hm. We don't have a reminder feature, do we? |
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mib_okkapv |
for the time ...........i will be in touch ;) |
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rangi |
Morning |
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wahanui |
hmmm... Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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rambutan |
a brief, off-topic note that Ravi Shankar has died... |
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jcamins |
cait: you are reprieved. |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:27 |
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* jcamins |
finishes up. |
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chris_n |
nasty bug |
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oleonard |
? |
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cait |
chris_n: which one are you looking at? |
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chris_n |
9246 |
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oleonard |
Bug 9246? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9246 blocker, P5 - low, ---, veron, Passed QA , Upon running koha installer, mysql "Error 1166 at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed" appears and crashes install. |
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wizzyrea |
i looked in the manual, but I didn't see a definitive answer - does koha have a mechanism to search "title begins with" |
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wizzyrea |
i found ti,first-in-subfield=<search> |
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wizzyrea |
but I can't seem to make it works |
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wizzyrea |
work* |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: if first-in-subfield doesn't meet your needs, you could try startswithnt. |
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wizzyrea |
well I couldn't get it to work - maybe I was doing it wrong? |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure either works. |
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wizzyrea |
how would you use startswithnt |
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wizzyrea |
ti,startswithnt=<whatever> |
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wizzyrea |
oh oh actually - it does work |
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wizzyrea |
< user error |
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wizzyrea |
rangi++ |
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jcamins |
Full disclosure: that doesn't actually do what you think it does. |
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wizzyrea |
well it gets pretty darn close |
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jcamins |
Yeah, it should be close enough. |
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wizzyrea |
but, you may explain if you like :) |
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oleonard |
Yes please |
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wizzyrea |
for the log it's ccl=ti,first-in-subfield=<whatever> |
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jcamins |
The problem is that first-in-subfield is mapped internally to first-in-field, which in turn is mapped to wordlist + doesn't have anything preceding it in the field that's being indexed. |
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jcamins |
So _how_ we add fields to the index impacts what is considered first-in-subfield. |
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wizzyrea |
so title is probably more or less ok - other fields might not be so ok |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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wizzyrea |
like su,first-in-subfield might be confusing |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
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wizzyrea |
(or something) |
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jcamins |
That's actually the example I was thinking of. |
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wizzyrea |
right, easy enough to pass on |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
the question was |
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wizzyrea |
"can I search 'title begins with'" |
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wizzyrea |
the answer is, apparently, with gymnastics, yes |
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jcamins |
Then, yes, that should do it. |
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wizzyrea |
"with gymnastics" |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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jcamins |
Of course, because I live to make things difficult, I should point out that if they use 505 fields extensively, they may get unexpected results. |
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jcamins |
Ooh! |
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jcamins |
I know how to fix it. |
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jcamins |
ccl=Title-cover,first-in-subfield=whatever |
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wizzyrea |
I would have to ask eythian about the fields this particular library |
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oleonard |
And how does one perform that search? |
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wizzyrea |
uses |
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wizzyrea |
type it into the search box |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
(all of it) |
| 20:43 |
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oleonard |
Wow, closest thing to a browse search I've ever seen in Koha |
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rangi |
theres lots we can do with zebra, its just C4::Search won't let us .. so yay for jcamins rewrite! |
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jcamins |
On the subject of which, bug 9239 isn't ready for sign off, but it *is* ready for testing! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries |
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wizzyrea |
YAY for the rewrite! |
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jcamins |
I am ten chapters into the play-by-play recounting of the Battle of Waterloo. |
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oleonard |
It's a little early to be trying to fall asleep jcamins |
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wizzyrea |
^^^^ |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I have already finished four other books trying to get through this section in Les Miserables. |
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* wizzyrea |
laughs |
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cait |
:) |
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jcamins |
Okay... |
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jcamins |
I must strategize. |
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jcamins |
I am still seven baked goods short of done with holiday baking, and I have a surprise holiday party this evening. |
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cait |
a surprise party? |
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jcamins |
(thankfully I don't need the baked goods *for* the holiday party) |
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jcamins |
No, a surprise holiday party. |
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wizzyrea |
Pavlova. It can finish while you are at the party. |
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cait |
wh ois surprised? |
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wizzyrea |
i think jcamins |
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wizzyrea |
is surprised at the existence of the party |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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cait |
ah hm |
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jcamins |
I also have the neediest cat *ever*. |
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cait |
heh |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #31: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/31/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* julian.maurice: Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Wide character error in runreport.pl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Add REPORT_GROUP to authorised values sample data |
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jcamins |
I just bought five pounds of flour a few weeks ago. |
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jcamins |
Why am I already out? |
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cait |
because it's pre christmas time? |
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cait |
myshkin ate it? |
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jcamins |
The holidays, I think. |
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jcamins |
Also, remember how I said buying 10lbs of flour was a mistake because I'd be out before I knew it? |
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jcamins |
I was right. |
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rangi |
heh |
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* jcamins |
uses his knowledge of the art of tessellation to spread club crackers on his baking sheets. |
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wizzyrea |
oh are you making the toffee things |
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cait |
toffee? |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders how much flour is in jcamins' computer |
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cait |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
you pour hot toffee over crackers |
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wizzyrea |
and it makes this yummy cracker-candy thing |
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cait |
oooh |
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cait |
yum |
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jcamins |
Yes I am. |
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jcamins |
And none... I just put my keyboard cover on. :P |
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cait |
jcamins: do you ship to germany? :) |
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druthb |
he's been known to *deliver* to Kansas. That's what I'm hoping for. |
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jcamins |
Problem... |
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wahanui |
problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. |
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jcamins |
The recipe called for 1 stick of butter, 1 cup sugar. |
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jcamins |
I doubled it. |
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jcamins |
There's waaaaay too much butter. |
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* jcamins |
adds more sugar. |
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|
Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 9 January 2013, at 10:00 UTC |
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oleonard |
I created a wiki page for the next meeting since no one else had: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g,_9_January_2013 |
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oleonard |
I copied the basic agenda and left in the GPLv3+ vote item, please correct or amend |
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rangi |
thanks |
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jcamins |
We already voted on the GPLv3+ issue, thank goodness. |
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oleonard |
Oh did we resolve that? I thought something had been pushed to the next meeting |
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jcamins |
We did, despite the efforts of some people to waste everyone's time. |
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eythian |
hi |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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* jcamins |
was not referring to eythian. |
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eythian |
heh |
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rambutan |
Tessellation is the process of creating a two-dimensional plane using the repetition of a geometric shape with no overlaps and no gaps. |
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eythian |
rambutan: on that note, the Escher museum in Den Haag is really quite cool. |
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rambutan |
You know eythian, I was just thinking about the Escher museum when you mentioned that. |
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rambutan |
where is Den Haag? |
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eythian |
I spent about 3 or 4 hours there when I was last in Den Haag |
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eythian |
in the Netherlands |
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rambutan |
ah, of course |
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rambutan |
The Escher Museum (Escher in het Paleis, Escher in the Palace) is a museum in The Hague, Netherlands, featuring the works of the Dutch graphical artist M. C. Escher. |
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rambutan |
And now I make the connection between tessellation and the Escher Museum. |
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rambutan |
citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escher_Museum |
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jcamins |
I always forget how long that takes. |
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jcamins |
One pan isn't that time-consuming. |
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jcamins |
But the amount of time required increases exponentially. |
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rangi |
http://www.cafepress.com/koha12.751374936 |
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rangi |
the perfect xmas gift |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins |
Four pans of saltine toffee bark! |
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jcamins |
Of course, foreshortening makes it look like those pans are all deeper than they are wide, when in fact the opposite is true. |
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jcamins |
Indeed, less than half the toffee bark is visible in that photo. |
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cait |
jcamins: posting those photos is a little mean, don't you think? :) |
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jcamins |
cait: ummm... |
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jcamins |
tough. |
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jcamins |
:P |
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talljoy2 |
jcamins: is there any known issue for dom indexing and icu-chains? linker appears to not work correctly when those two are used. |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: ty for the help with ccl |
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jcamins |
talljoy2: not to my knowledge. It works for me. |
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talljoy2 |
curious. we had a fail with it. |
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talljoy2 |
could be one off. i need to find a smaller database to test it on than the monster i have currently. heh |
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tcohen |
hi rangi |
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tcohen |
what git feature would u #koha highlight? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: what do you mean? |
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tcohen |
i'm giving an intro to using git tomorrow |
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tcohen |
for my 30+ coleages |
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tcohen |
i love rebasing -i |
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tcohen |
and git mergetool |
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jcamins |
git rebase -i, definitely. |
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tcohen |
exactly |
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tcohen |
i'll talk about the super git-bz tool |
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tcohen |
as an example of extensibility |
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tcohen |
i've never cherry-picked thuo |
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jcamins |
Git cherry-pick is slightly less useful for most people. |
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tcohen |
is a RM thing right? |
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jcamins |
RMaint. |
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tcohen |
right |
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jcamins |
RM never cherry-picks. |
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jcamins |
git bisect is useful. |
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cait |
git bisect is cool too |
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tcohen |
what do u use for solving merge conflicts? |
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cait |
jinx ;) |
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jcamins |
My razor-sharp mind. :P |
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tcohen |
kdiff3? |
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tcohen |
kompare? |
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jcamins |
vim. |
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tcohen |
vimdiff |
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jcamins |
No, just vim. |
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tcohen |
you mean by hand |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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tcohen |
me too, but i've studied using those tools |
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tcohen |
to convince people |
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tcohen |
we are moving from trac+svn to redmine+gitolite+git |
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tcohen |
i'll explain git-svn for migration |
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tcohen |
can anyone give a short explanatio of bisect? |
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jcamins |
I can't figure out bug 9275. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9275 trivial, P5 - low, ---, rominaracca, Passed QA , Missing '<' closing pharagraph tag |
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tcohen |
OH! git bisect + unit tests ;) |
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jcamins |
Where's the problem? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. |
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tcohen |
s/,/</ ? |
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jcamins |
Right, I see that there is a problem, but I don't see it in the interface. |
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tcohen |
in the autorithy help section? |
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jcamins |
Oh, *edit* page. |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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tcohen |
how do u go backwards using bisect? is it done when bisect bad is issued? |
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jcamins |
I've never been any good at it, unfortunately. |
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tcohen |
ok |
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tcohen |
thanks for your oppinion jcamins |
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tcohen |
i'll see what can i do with LibreOficce about this |
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tcohen |
:-( |
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jcamins |
tcohen: rangi does really good instructions for using git bisect. |
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tcohen |
hmm, i guess i'll try later then |
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tcohen |
rangi fully backs test-driven development |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #976 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #974 1 day 3 hr ago) |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
Wait, why is master unstable? |
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jcamins |
Why didn't I get notification of that? |
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tcohen |
now i've read about bisect, I'm sure he will know a lot about it! |
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jcamins |
Oh, daily quotes. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9275 follow-up: Add Romina Racca to history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]42fd3e14ffdd12f9a> / Bug 9275 Missing '<' closing pharagraph tag <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a5eb9b118635bc9e> / Bug 9246: Koha installer crash with mysql error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]commitdiff;h=ca47 |
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