Time Nick Message 23:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9275 follow-up: Add Romina Racca to history <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc10d7a056270860fa2183942fd3e14ffdd12f9a> / Bug 9275 Missing '<' closing pharagraph tag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b3e1668735138da4f540905a5eb9b118635bc9e> / Bug 9246: Koha installer crash with mysql error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca47 23:45 jcamins Oh, daily quotes. 23:45 tcohen now i've read about bisect, I'm sure he will know a lot about it! 23:45 jcamins Why didn't I get notification of that? 23:45 jcamins Wait, why is master unstable? 23:45 jcamins Yes. 23:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #976 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #974 1 day 3 hr ago) 23:44 tcohen rangi fully backs test-driven development 23:35 tcohen hmm, i guess i'll try later then 23:35 jcamins tcohen: rangi does really good instructions for using git bisect. 23:34 tcohen :-( 23:34 tcohen i'll see what can i do with LibreOficce about this 23:34 tcohen thanks for your oppinion jcamins 23:32 tcohen ok 23:31 jcamins I've never been any good at it, unfortunately. 23:31 tcohen how do u go backwards using bisect? is it done when bisect bad is issued? 23:29 jcamins Thanks. 23:29 jcamins Oh, *edit* page. 23:29 tcohen in the autorithy help section? 23:28 jcamins Right, I see that there is a problem, but I don't see it in the interface. 23:28 tcohen s/,/</ ? 23:27 wahanui it has been said that the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. 23:27 jcamins Where's the problem? 23:27 tcohen OH! git bisect + unit tests ;) 23:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9275 trivial, P5 - low, ---, rominaracca, Passed QA , Missing '<' closing pharagraph tag 23:27 jcamins I can't figure out bug 9275. 23:25 tcohen can anyone give a short explanatio of bisect? 23:23 tcohen i'll explain git-svn for migration 23:23 tcohen we are moving from trac+svn to redmine+gitolite+git 23:22 tcohen to convince people 23:22 tcohen me too, but i've studied using those tools 23:22 jcamins Right. 23:22 tcohen you mean by hand 23:21 jcamins No, just vim. 23:21 tcohen vimdiff 23:21 jcamins vim. 23:21 tcohen kompare? 23:21 tcohen kdiff3? 23:21 jcamins My razor-sharp mind. :P 23:21 cait jinx ;) 23:20 tcohen what do u use for solving merge conflicts? 23:20 cait git bisect is cool too 23:20 jcamins git bisect is useful. 23:20 jcamins RM never cherry-picks. 23:20 tcohen right 23:19 jcamins RMaint. 23:19 tcohen is a RM thing right? 23:19 jcamins Git cherry-pick is slightly less useful for most people. 23:19 tcohen i've never cherry-picked thuo 23:18 tcohen as an example of extensibility 23:18 tcohen i'll talk about the super git-bz tool 23:17 tcohen exactly 23:17 jcamins git rebase -i, definitely. 23:17 tcohen and git mergetool 23:17 tcohen i love rebasing -i 23:17 tcohen for my 30+ coleages 23:17 tcohen i'm giving an intro to using git tomorrow 23:17 jcamins tcohen: what do you mean? 23:16 tcohen what git feature would u #koha highlight? 23:16 tcohen hi rangi 22:45 talljoy2 could be one off. i need to find a smaller database to test it on than the monster i have currently. heh 22:45 talljoy2 curious. we had a fail with it. 22:45 jcamins talljoy2: not to my knowledge. It works for me. 22:44 wizzyrea jcamins: ty for the help with ccl 22:44 talljoy2 jcamins: is there any known issue for dom indexing and icu-chains? linker appears to not work correctly when those two are used. 22:37 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "@ranginui got another library card today SQUEE #kohails" 22:13 jcamins :P 22:13 jcamins tough. 22:13 jcamins cait: ummm... 22:12 cait jcamins: posting those photos is a little mean, don't you think? :) 22:00 jcamins Indeed, less than half the toffee bark is visible in that photo. 21:59 jcamins Of course, foreshortening makes it look like those pans are all deeper than they are wide, when in fact the opposite is true. 21:58 jcamins [off] https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c135.0.403.403/p403x403/430900_977400055539_140659915_n.jpg <-- proof! 21:55 jcamins Four pans of saltine toffee bark! 21:52 rangi heh 21:52 rangi the perfect xmas gift 21:52 rangi http://www.cafepress.com/koha12.751374936 21:51 jcamins But the amount of time required increases exponentially. 21:51 jcamins One pan isn't that time-consuming. 21:51 jcamins I always forget how long that takes. 21:41 rambutan citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escher_Museum 21:40 rambutan And now I make the connection between tessellation and the Escher Museum. 21:40 rambutan The Escher Museum (Escher in het Paleis, Escher in the Palace) is a museum in The Hague, Netherlands, featuring the works of the Dutch graphical artist M. C. Escher. 21:38 rambutan ah, of course 21:38 eythian in the Netherlands 21:38 eythian I spent about 3 or 4 hours there when I was last in Den Haag 21:37 rambutan where is Den Haag? 21:37 rambutan You know eythian, I was just thinking about the Escher museum when you mentioned that. 21:36 eythian rambutan: on that note, the Escher museum in Den Haag is really quite cool. 21:35 rambutan Tessellation is the process of creating a two-dimensional plane using the repetition of a geometric shape with no overlaps and no gaps. 21:33 eythian heh 21:33 * jcamins was not referring to eythian. 21:33 cait hi eythian 21:33 eythian hi 21:32 jcamins We did, despite the efforts of some people to waste everyone's time. 21:31 oleonard Oh did we resolve that? I thought something had been pushed to the next meeting 21:31 jcamins We already voted on the GPLv3+ issue, thank goodness. 21:28 rangi thanks 21:28 oleonard I copied the basic agenda and left in the GPLv3+ vote item, please correct or amend 21:27 oleonard I created a wiki page for the next meeting since no one else had: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_9_January_2013 21:16 * jcamins adds more sugar. 21:16 jcamins There's waaaaay too much butter. 21:16 jcamins I doubled it. 21:16 jcamins The recipe called for 1 stick of butter, 1 cup sugar. 21:16 wahanui problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. 21:16 jcamins Problem... 21:15 druthb he's been known to *deliver* to Kansas. That's what I'm hoping for. 21:15 cait jcamins: do you ship to germany? :) 21:15 jcamins And none... I just put my keyboard cover on. :P 21:14 jcamins Yes I am. 21:14 cait yum 21:14 cait oooh 21:14 wizzyrea and it makes this yummy cracker-candy thing 21:14 wizzyrea you pour hot toffee over crackers 21:13 cait heh 21:13 * wizzyrea wonders how much flour is in jcamins' computer 21:13 cait toffee? 21:13 wizzyrea oh are you making the toffee things 21:09 * jcamins uses his knowledge of the art of tessellation to spread club crackers on his baking sheets. 21:04 rangi heh 21:03 jcamins I was right. 21:03 jcamins Also, remember how I said buying 10lbs of flour was a mistake because I'd be out before I knew it? 21:02 jcamins The holidays, I think. 21:01 cait myshkin ate it? 21:01 cait because it's pre christmas time? 21:00 jcamins Why am I already out? 21:00 jcamins I just bought five pounds of flour a few weeks ago. 20:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Add REPORT_GROUP to authorised values sample data 20:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Wide character error in runreport.pl 20:58 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data 20:58 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl 20:58 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl 20:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #31: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/31/ 20:52 cait heh 20:52 jcamins I also have the neediest cat *ever*. 20:51 cait ah hm 20:51 jcamins Yes. 20:51 wizzyrea is surprised at the existence of the party 20:51 wizzyrea i think jcamins 20:51 cait wh ois surprised? 20:50 wizzyrea Pavlova. It can finish while you are at the party. 20:50 jcamins No, a surprise holiday party. 20:50 jcamins (thankfully I don't need the baked goods *for* the holiday party) 20:50 cait a surprise party? 20:50 jcamins I am still seven baked goods short of done with holiday baking, and I have a surprise holiday party this evening. 20:49 jcamins I must strategize. 20:49 jcamins Okay... 20:48 cait :) 20:48 * wizzyrea laughs 20:48 jcamins oleonard: I have already finished four other books trying to get through this section in Les Miserables. 20:48 wizzyrea ^^^^ 20:47 oleonard It's a little early to be trying to fall asleep jcamins 20:47 jcamins I am ten chapters into the play-by-play recounting of the Battle of Waterloo. 20:46 wizzyrea YAY for the rewrite! 20:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries 20:44 jcamins On the subject of which, bug 9239 isn't ready for sign off, but it *is* ready for testing! 20:44 rangi theres lots we can do with zebra, its just C4::Search won't let us .. so yay for jcamins rewrite! 20:43 oleonard Wow, closest thing to a browse search I've ever seen in Koha 20:42 wizzyrea (all of it) 20:42 wizzyrea :) 20:42 wizzyrea type it into the search box 20:42 wizzyrea uses 20:42 oleonard And how does one perform that search? 20:42 wizzyrea I would have to ask eythian about the fields this particular library 20:41 jcamins ccl=Title-cover,first-in-subfield=whatever 20:41 jcamins I know how to fix it. 20:41 jcamins Ooh! 20:41 jcamins Of course, because I live to make things difficult, I should point out that if they use 505 fields extensively, they may get unexpected results. 20:40 wizzyrea :) 20:40 wizzyrea "with gymnastics" 20:40 jcamins Then, yes, that should do it. 20:40 wizzyrea the answer is, apparently, with gymnastics, yes 20:40 wizzyrea "can I search 'title begins with'" 20:40 wizzyrea the question was 20:40 wizzyrea hehe 20:40 wizzyrea right, easy enough to pass on 20:40 jcamins That's actually the example I was thinking of. 20:39 wizzyrea (or something) 20:39 jcamins Exactly. 20:39 wizzyrea like su,first-in-subfield might be confusing 20:39 jcamins Right. 20:39 wizzyrea so title is probably more or less ok - other fields might not be so ok 20:38 jcamins So _how_ we add fields to the index impacts what is considered first-in-subfield. 20:38 jcamins The problem is that first-in-subfield is mapped internally to first-in-field, which in turn is mapped to wordlist + doesn't have anything preceding it in the field that's being indexed. 20:36 wizzyrea for the log it's ccl=ti,first-in-subfield=<whatever> 20:35 oleonard Yes please 20:35 wizzyrea but, you may explain if you like :) 20:35 jcamins Yeah, it should be close enough. 20:35 wizzyrea well it gets pretty darn close 20:35 jcamins Full disclosure: that doesn't actually do what you think it does. 20:34 wizzyrea rangi++ 20:34 wizzyrea < user error 20:34 wizzyrea oh oh actually - it does work 20:33 wizzyrea ti,startswithnt=<whatever> 20:33 wizzyrea how would you use startswithnt 20:32 jcamins I'm not sure either works. 20:32 wizzyrea well I couldn't get it to work - maybe I was doing it wrong? 20:31 jcamins_away wizzyrea: if first-in-subfield doesn't meet your needs, you could try startswithnt. 20:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:04 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Sales of E-book readers down in 2012 http://t.co/3rqueuuU #kohails" 20:03 wizzyrea work* 20:00 wizzyrea but I can't seem to make it works 20:00 wizzyrea i found ti,first-in-subfield=<search> 19:59 wizzyrea i looked in the manual, but I didn't see a definitive answer - does koha have a mechanism to search "title begins with" 19:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9246 blocker, P5 - low, ---, veron, Passed QA , Upon running koha installer, mysql "Error 1166 at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed" appears and crashes install. 19:57 oleonard Bug 9246? 19:57 chris_n 9246 19:56 cait chris_n: which one are you looking at? 19:38 oleonard ? 19:35 chris_n nasty bug 18:27 * jcamins finishes up. 18:27 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 18:27 rangi @wunder nzwn 18:08 jcamins cait: you are reprieved. 18:05 rambutan a brief, off-topic note that Ravi Shankar has died... 18:03 wahanui hmmm... Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 18:03 rangi Morning 18:02 mib_okkapv for the time ...........i will be in touch ;) 18:02 jcamins Hm. We don't have a reminder feature, do we? 18:02 mib_okkapv ok thank you @jcamins 18:02 cait remind me in half an hour? 17:59 jcamins QA team! QA 9246! 17:59 jcamins Oh, wait, it's signed off! 17:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9246 blocker, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Upon running koha installer, mysql "Error 1166 at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed" appears and crashes install. 17:59 jcamins Bug 9246. 17:59 jcamins I'm looking now. 17:59 wahanui i heard the bug # was there 17:59 khall whats the bug #? 17:58 jcamins khall: there's a patch for that which requires sign-off. 17:58 khall I can't install Koha from master atm, I get this in Step 3: ERROR 1166 (42000) at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed ' 17:58 jcamins Yes. 17:58 mib_okkapv and the main part of code is perl done 17:58 jcamins But you didn't need me to tell you that, because you already know all these things from reading the "What is Koha?" page on the website. 17:57 jcamins For Koha, I could say "there's a lot of code that runs on a server, data is stored in a database, searches are done using an external system called Zebra, and the user uses a web browser to manage their library." 17:57 jcamins The best answer I could give you for "how does Linux work at a glance?" is "there's a kernel, which is central, and then there are a lot of other things that work together so that you can use your computer." 17:56 mib_okkapv jajaja yes i understand... 17:56 jcamins I can't answer that question because to me that's like asking "how does Linux work at a glance?" 17:55 mib_okkapv itselfs each parts 17:55 mib_okkapv how works the parts 17:55 mib_okkapv but just at glace.. 17:54 mib_okkapv mmm I see 17:53 jcamins I think I can speak for the original author of Koha when I say that *no one* knows how every part of Koha works perfectly. 17:53 jcamins I think possibly you need to adjust your expectations. 17:52 mib_okkapv I understand cds/isis structures very well 17:51 jcamins It is capable of running pretty much any type of library, from a personal library with 200 books to a national library with 8 million. 17:51 mib_okkapv its is a huge for me 17:51 jcamins Eight hundred isn't very many at all. 17:51 mib_okkapv :( 17:51 jcamins *eight hundred thousand 17:51 jcamins Koha comprises over eight hundred lines of code. 17:50 oleonard You can't tell at a glace how the whole thing works, there are too many parts 17:50 jcamins How what works? 17:50 mib_okkapv how many kinds of type of archives exists? for example is a goal :) 17:49 mib_okkapv understand how it works at the glance :( 17:48 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 17:48 jcamins First question? 17:48 mib_okkapv yes the schema I got it but the information about modules, connections, etc etc 17:47 wahanui well, git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 17:47 jcamins git? 17:47 jcamins And, of course, since Koha is open source the best thing you can do if you want to know how it works is look at the code! 17:47 jcamins (I don't know what to call it) 17:47 wahanui well, schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org 17:47 jcamins schema? 17:47 jcamins If you're interested in the database structures, there's a thingy for that. 17:47 mib_okkapv I will apreciate it 17:47 mib_okkapv well thank you for the time spend :) 17:46 mib_okkapv yes i see... :( 17:46 wahanui wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org 17:46 jcamins wiki? 17:46 jcamins The wiki is full of useful information. 17:46 jcamins mib_okkapv: the manual you have a link to. 17:45 huginn mib_okkapv: I suck 17:45 mib_okkapv @ i see , books? manuals? tesis? 17:44 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 17:44 cait @later tell gmcharlt - works now :) many thanks! 17:44 cait gmcharlt++ 17:44 jcamins There is not really any overarching "technical guide." 17:44 * cait waves 17:43 jcamins mib_okkapv: what do you mean? 17:42 mib_okkapv technical information about the ILS? 17:42 mib_okkapv ok :) besides do you know where is a documentation of the koha structures? 17:40 oleonard Yes mib_okkapv, that's a good resource 17:39 mib_okkapv the video tutoriales of bywater it is a right place to start? 17:39 mib_okkapv i am starting learning koha but i dont know where to start i used winisis 17:38 jcamins :) 17:38 mib_okkapv thankkkkkkkkk youuuuuuuuuuu :) 17:38 mib_okkapv ahh i got it change the subfield tags to show the fields :) 17:37 jcamins Exactly. 17:37 mib_okkapv BKS framework structure › Tag 038 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints > Advanced constraints > hidden :) 17:34 jcamins There's a screenshot in the manual, I think. 17:34 jcamins No, "Hidden" 17:34 mib_okkapv I guess 17:33 mib_okkapv MARC frameworks › Books, Booklets, Workbooks (BKS) › Modify tag 040 > Authorized value ? 17:30 jcamins Then you change the visibility, as in the manual I sent you a link to. 17:30 mib_okkapv for example... 17:29 mib_okkapv mmmm ok :) but if the 40 field i would like to display? once created in the framework 17:28 jcamins Otherwise, no. 17:28 jcamins If you want to change what tab the 001 field is displayed in, then yes. 17:28 jcamins mib_okkapv: what are you trying to do? 17:27 mib_okkapv is this right? 17:22 mib_okkapv MARC frameworks › BKS framework structure › Tag 001 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints > Managed in tab >1 17:14 mib_okkapv :) 17:14 mib_okkapv ok thank you I am looking for i cannot use i will ask again thank you 17:13 huginn jcamins: Your goose is cooked. (Your current chick is burned up too!) 17:13 jcamins @fortune 17:13 wahanui no idea, jcamins 17:13 jcamins wahanui: fortune? 17:13 jcamins It's about a quarter of the way down the page. 17:13 jcamins Search for "hidden" 17:13 jcamins mib_okkapv: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks 17:12 mib_okkapv for example I have 50 tags but I would like to use only 30 tags 17:12 oleonard mib_okkapv: Check the documentation on editing MARC frameworks 17:12 mib_okkapv in the cataloguing of create new records :) 17:10 oleonard mib_okkapv: In what context? 17:10 jcamins One which I will make a point of finding a use for so that you can feel your time was well-spent. 17:09 jcamins oleonard: it's a cool feature, though! 17:09 mib_okkapv I would like to know how to show or hide tags... ? :) 17:09 oleonard Hi mib_okkapv 17:09 mib_okkapv hello 17:07 oleonard I didn't set out to correct a feature I didn't know existed and didn't want to use, I was just trying to validate the damn template. 17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9276 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Display of biblio-level authorized values on OPAC search results broken 17:07 oleonard I don't think I've ever written so much test plan for a 4-line correction (Bug 9276) 16:50 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 16:50 gmcharlt @later tell cait ok, you should be able to log in now; MediaWiki was hanging on to old cached versions of user objects for some reason 16:23 jcamins That time it tripped over the doorframe but recovered enough to not go flying. 16:22 jcamins S/he is now somewhere else complaining loudly. 16:22 druthb awr! 16:21 jcamins My client's little kitten just ran across the room, tripped over the door frame, discover s/he couldn't get any traction on tile, and slid into a heap against a wall. 16:21 jcamins Awww! 16:18 reiveune bye 15:32 kf yep 15:32 gmcharlt your account is Kfischer? 15:32 kf it always says wrong passwort, even for the temporary password it send me 15:31 kf and have no idea why :( 15:31 kf I can not log into the wiki any longer 15:30 kf sec just saving 15:30 kf oh you are here 15:30 gmcharlt kf: hmm? 15:29 wahanui somebody said gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology. 15:29 kf gmcharlt? 15:26 kf but fine syntax in notices is broken too... *sigh* 15:26 kf we have fines, but not hourly 15:21 * oleonard too 15:18 drojf i'm so glad we don't have fines :P 15:17 libsysguy it seems like its broken more than its working 15:17 libsysguy drojf it really depends on the day of the week 15:13 kf ? 15:13 kf I think the work around is probably to have the fine script running often 15:13 drojf seeing the sponsoring information, does hourly loans work with fines nowadays? 15:07 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Samuel Merritt University Sponsors Hourly Loans and Course Reserves for Koha http://t.co/oDnrvqK2" 14:44 oleonard Well what do you know, the authorised value display in OPAC results worked a long time ago 14:43 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @emilyalling: "Many thanks! @ByWaterSolution: "Samuel Merritt University Sponsors Hourly Loans and Course Reserves for Koha http://t.co/mlC8wb5p #kohails"" 14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9101 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add REPORT_GROUP to authorised values sample data 14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Wide character error in runreport.pl 14:23 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data 14:23 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl 14:23 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl 14:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #975: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/975/ 14:17 vfernandes sorry jcamins_away, I was out for lunch 14:08 kf I am not poetic like that :) 14:07 kf I quoted the zebra documentation jcamins pointed to 14:07 kf lol 14:07 huginn druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #223 added. 14:07 druthb @quote add kf: ... which has opportunities for great power and wizardry as well as grande disaster. 14:07 kf look at the advanced search at the link :) 14:07 kf khall: you can limit to serials using it 14:07 * khall needs to get his mls 14:07 kf [off] http://hfjs.bsz-bw.de for some jquery wizardry 14:06 khall gotcha, over my head 14:06 kf khall: it has not been implemented there yet... see 14:06 jcamins khall: it's used in analytic tracings. 14:06 kf ... which has opportunities for great power and wizardry as well as grande disaster. 14:06 khall kf: where would one search on bib-level? I don't see that in the advanced search 14:06 jcamins You may find it somewhat less hysterically funny than I do, of course. 14:05 drojf that are not the grs-1 guts of a zebra for sure ;) 14:05 oleonard kf: http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/11/27/samuel-merritt-university-goes-live-on-koha-with-bywater-solutions/ 14:05 jcamins I like the last example in 3.3. 14:05 jcamins http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/record-model-domxml-conf.html 14:05 kf they sound like fun 14:05 kf really have to look at those configuration files sometime :) 14:05 jcamins Right. 14:04 kf jcamins: for dom? 14:03 jcamins Yeah, you just put it in the <marc:record> template. 14:03 oleonard it wasn't too long ago I think 14:03 kf oleonard: do you know when they switched? 14:02 khall thanks! I'll go poke around the zebra configuration files and see what I find 14:02 kf I got worreid :) 14:02 kf oh thx 14:02 khall indeed, bib level is 07 of the leader! 14:02 kf hm I might be, always confuse all the controlfields :( 14:01 kf if I am not mistaken totally 14:01 kf bib-level is an example 14:01 kf yes 14:01 jcamins khall: I actually do not. 14:00 khall hey all, does anyone know if it's possible to search MARC leader information via zebra? 14:00 oleonard SMU++ # I'm glad they're back with real Koha 13:57 francharb hi 13:55 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Samuel Merritt University Sponsors Hourly Loans and Course Reserves for Koha http://t.co/bkOB5TCC #kohails" 13:44 jcamins Okay, patched. 13:35 jcamins Guess it's a combination of DEBUG and/or Plack. 13:35 jcamins Hm. 13:35 oleonard Seems to work fine jcamins 13:34 jcamins Thanks. 13:34 kf oleonard++ 13:34 oleonard Sure 13:33 jcamins Could someone please try deleting an authorized value, while we're on the subject? 13:33 kf oleonard: never tried it 13:32 jcamins oleonard: I have not, if we're not talking about item types. 13:31 jcamins Ooh! A puzzle! 13:30 oleonard git blame says this code is from 2008, and I don't remember ever seeing it in action. 13:30 oleonard So, has anyone ever seen an authorized value image appear in the OPAC search results? And I'm not talking about item type images. 13:30 kf why don't we have a timestamp in deleteditems? :( 13:29 jcamins There we go. 13:29 wahanui you are very, very irascible. 13:29 jcamins jcamins? 13:29 wahanui well, jcamins is brilliant 13:29 jcamins jcamins? 13:29 wahanui you are brilliant 13:29 jcamins jcamins? 13:29 jcamins Huh? 13:29 wahanui i guess jcamins is brilliant 13:29 jcamins jcamins? 13:29 * jcamins grumbles. 13:29 H wave 13:28 oleonard Hi #koha 13:25 H if my library is online i post the url ... still have to do the webinstall and the data import (at the moment i cant at the server ip adres in my browser did mail the network people here (apache is installed (hopefully i did it correct))) 13:21 H reeding it 13:21 H ah indeed 13:20 H is that me ? ;) 13:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9267 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Ubuntu 12.04 install docs broken 13:20 tcohen H: bug 9267 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9144 trivial, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Passed QA , bulkmarcimport.pl - Problem identifying errors 13:19 kf bug 9144 13:19 H Hey all 13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9033 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Wide character error in runreport.pl 13:17 jcamins Well, no, I also pushed bug 9033, but that patch didn't fix the problem it purported to, it just made it less broken. 13:17 jcamins kf: yes, that's the only one. 13:17 kf I think feeding him with well tested patches that are not dubious could work too :) 13:16 * tcohen thinks we need to feed the RM with super-charged coffee in the morning 13:16 kf you pushed my patch? :P 13:16 tcohen ouch 13:15 jcamins tcohen: because I am easily annoyed in the morning, and only one patch out of the five I reviewed was not dubious. 13:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #975 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 13:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9101: Add REPORT_GROUP to sample data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e437138a33d115dd43bc670897d7279337e9b16> / Bug 9033: Wide character error in runreport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18c2962f7e17dc3ed9db0a70137a58fa58290b1c> / Bug 9033 - Wide character error in runreport.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4294869 13:11 tcohen :-P 13:10 kf and that was for tcohen :P 13:10 kf jcamins: because he has a life outside koha... maybe 13:10 tcohen why jcamins? whhhhhhyyyyy? 13:08 * jcamins stops reviewing patches for pushing. 12:54 * paul_p at a meeting with our greek partners 12:54 paul_p jcamins well, I tested with an account with superlibrarian privileges, it's true (and with plack) 12:53 jcamins The selfcheck must have superlibrarian privileges. 12:53 jcamins Ah-ha. 12:52 jcamins paul_p: does the web-based SCO work for you under Plack? 12:51 tcohen mornin #koha 12:49 jcamins Also, could someone please confirm that it is possible to check out books with the web-based SCO still? 12:40 jcamins Could someone please try deleting an authorized value? 12:40 jcamins Hmmm... 12:33 jcamins vfernandes: around? 12:18 magnuse have fun, #koha! 11:24 kf :( 11:24 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 11:24 kf @later tell gmcharlt I got problems logging into the wiki - I tried sending myself a new password, but that doesn't work too - maybe you can use some magic? 11:22 kf gmcharlt: around? 11:03 drojf try it ;) 11:03 drojf clrh: that's what i think 11:01 clrh tweetbot`: just repeat #kohails hashtag ? 10:59 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @clrh: "For 3.10, @biblibre signed off 46% of #kohails patches with 13 people involved http://t.co/WJBeSofg" 10:58 magnuse kf: works for me 10:54 * kf gives up 10:35 kf is it me or something with the wiki? 10:35 kf can't log into the koha wiki... 10:35 kf hm 10:11 vfernandes humm nice :) 10:08 kf vfernandes: it will move to a new server soon 10:08 drojf vfernandes: it's being worked on 10:08 vfernandes koha translate interface is damn slow :/ 10:08 kf hi vfernandes 10:07 kf drojf: yay ;) 10:07 vfernandes hi :) 09:50 drojf did it manually and got a duplicate entry error for the grace syspref. i suppose that means you were right about the db entry getting created when changing the pref 09:49 kf lol 09:45 drojf ah, it is, wrong ssh session, wrong koha ;) 09:44 drojf it's not in my updatedatabase file. i guess something went wrong there 09:38 kf if you have access to reports you can check 09:37 drojf find out 09:37 drojf i will find about that later :) 09:28 kf I think if you turn it on/off the pref might get created 09:28 kf it's not bad actually 09:28 drojf maybe the db stuff isn't ^^ 09:27 drojf hm. i only checked if the syspref is there 09:27 kf or reset it 09:27 kf maybe they didn't apply it 09:27 drojf the same, i was wondering about that last night 09:27 kf ah 09:26 kf and what does about say? 09:26 kf oh? 09:25 drojf but that number is not what it should be for that instance, it's just 3.0807000 09:23 kf yeah, I recently 'rediscovered' it 09:23 drojf ah, the one i never look at :) thanks 09:23 kf local use tab :) 09:22 drojf isn't there even a syspref with the number? i thought there was but could not find it last night 09:22 drojf ah yes, that sounds like a good idea 09:21 kf I think 09:21 kf resetting the version by 1 before you run it - in the database 09:21 kf you will hae to be careful on update 09:19 drojf that is also where the question about database numbering came from. for the test version i just used the next db revision number now, but i don't know if that is a good idea for a production system 09:18 kf and it might work for one confguration and not for another 09:18 kf bit hard to test in production maybe... well a good test, but hard if something is still off 09:17 drojf i don't have any experience with fines because we don't have any, but the bug sounds like a problem wildau was having. i suppose they will see if it fixes it for them 09:15 kf we had talked about the formula and it might work for our problem, just not sure 09:15 kf not sure the description on the patch is accurate - I would like to test and see how it works 09:15 kf but then I got covered with lots of other things :( 09:15 kf I had chatted with khall about it before he send in the patch 09:14 wahanui i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 09:14 kf oh interesting 09:14 kf drojf: not yet, requires some good test cases I think 09:13 drojf i gave a version of 3.8.7+4906 to wildau for testing 09:12 drojf or looked at it, regarding paul_p's comment 09:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1 09:12 drojf kf: have you tried bug 4906? 09:11 drojf wish i could work from bed 09:10 drojf morning kf and rangi :) 09:10 rangi hi drojf 09:10 kf morning drojf 09:09 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -2.6°C (9:43 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 09:09 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:06 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "i forgot how pretty the rijksmuseum library catalogue is http://t.co/P6YH0rzr #kohails" 09:06 magnuse rangi: thanks! 09:06 rangi magnuse: yay have fun! 09:05 magnuse kf: thanks 09:05 magnuse marcelr++ 09:05 kf magnuse: have a good holiday 09:04 kf marcelr++ 09:04 kf I love the itemtype selected on advanced search 09:04 kf totally is 09:03 magnuse wow, that is an awesome opac! 09:03 magnuse [off] rangi: nope, 1 week holiday in the canary islands :-) 09:01 rangi marcelr++ 09:01 rangi http://library.rijksmuseum.nl/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=fish 09:01 rangi i forgot how pretty the rijksmuseum catalogue is 08:56 rangi for work? 08:56 rangi cool 08:56 * magnuse travels south today 08:55 magnuse pft 08:55 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 08:55 magnuse @wunder las palmas, spain 08:55 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 08:55 magnuse @wunder las palmas 08:55 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 08:55 magnuse @wunder arguineguin 08:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 08:55 magnuse @wunder boo 08:52 rangi 18 is yuck for sleeping 08:51 rangi its too hot 08:51 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 08:51 rangi @wunder nzwn 08:51 huginn kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 0.0°C (9:30 AM CET on December 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 08:51 kf @wunder marseille 08:50 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @mikromarc: "The Bibits AS Daily is out! http://t.co/cKnFtmVT ▸ Top stories today via @kohails @NewWorldLibrary @biblfeed" 08:22 kf konstanz is covered in snow, how is the weather in marseille? 08:22 kf :) 08:22 clrh :) 08:22 clrh hello kf and rangi 08:22 rangi hi kf, gaetan_B and clrh 08:21 kf hi clrh 08:19 clrh helo 08:17 kf good morning #koha 08:13 gaetan_B hello 08:08 reiveune hi rangi 08:08 rangi hi reiveune 07:41 wahanui what's up, reiveune 07:41 reiveune hello 07:16 cait hi alex_a_ 07:14 rangi hi alex_a_ 07:14 alex_a_ bonjour rangi 07:14 alex_a_ bonjour cait 07:11 cait nice 07:11 cait oooh 07:10 rangi http://instagram.com/p/TIKH3posO3/ thats about 100m from my house 06:34 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "@iyank4 Perpustakaan Kementrian Kesehatan R.I: http://t.co/7Pag11aA , Universitas Muhammadiyah Surakarta: http://t.co/Fn4NAQFJ | #KohaILS" 05:35 huginn 04Bug 8471: trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , loading an sql file into mysql, often fails when loading the 'letter' table 05:35 mtj wajasu, fyi: heres my comment on the bug -> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8471#c2 05:23 eythian wajasu: you don't have control over anything like that, you're loading a database dump 05:21 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails RDA Redux http://t.co/4Zx6qAma" 05:19 mtj i though i was going to nail that bug!, but … not to be :) 05:18 mtj anyhoo, as eythian said, its now a knownish problem, with a workaround 05:18 wajasu copy the newer into a temp table, load the older, then add the newer. maybe? 05:17 mtj yeah, i kinda stated the obvious 05:16 eythian but we can't have that 05:16 eythian mtj: of course those statements will fix it, they delete everything. 05:16 wajasu ahh 05:16 mtj so, load a 3.10, then load your 3.0... 05:16 eythian in particular, loading over the top of an existing one 05:16 mtj wajasu, the problem seems to be loading an older version, after an newer version 05:15 wajasu i recently dumped, a 3.0x koha into 3.10 and didn't get any complaints. my branchcodes are not set. 05:15 mtj use `head`; 05:15 mtj create database `head`; 05:15 mtj DROP database IF EXISTS `head`; 05:15 mtj adding the following to the start of the .sql , fixes the load error 05:10 mtj eythian, ^^ yep - ive got those 'SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS' lines in my files, too 05:09 eythian the problem is you want to delete the table and recreate it and you can't 05:09 wajasu ok 05:09 eythian it doesn't matter 05:09 wajasu are there the generated letters? or templates? 05:09 eythian editing records isn't an issue if you're trying to replace it 05:08 wajasu i've only seen letters as output (read for mail, etc). 05:08 wajasu you might get away with suspending checks, if we don't edit the record. but you could even check to see if upon an edit/save, that we supply the branchcode. 05:07 eythian though I don't know if that's a real comment or some strange mysql thing 05:06 eythian /*!40014 SET @OLD_FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=@@FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS, FOREIGN_KEY_CHECKS=0 */; 05:05 mtj yeah, theres usually a bunch of those instructions, at the top/bottom of a dumped .sql file 05:05 wajasu the issue i see is that 3.6 and prior does support multiple branches. so only if they ran as one branch could we populate the column based on that. 05:05 eythian but is it in there? 05:04 mtj SET foreign_key_checks = 0; SET foreign_key_checks = 1; etc... 05:04 eythian is there an instruction for that in the dump? 05:04 mtj i would have thought mysql would have 'disabled' those FK checks, when loading a dumped .sql file 05:03 wajasu so we have to manufacture the column. 05:03 eythian tbh, it'll only be a problem while we're going back and forth across a particular version boundry, eventually it should become less of an issue as we have fewer 3.6 installations to deal with 05:02 mtj yep, something like that :) 05:02 wajasu i suspect it fails because the old version letters table data doesn't have any branchcode column at all. so the contraint fails. 05:01 mtj $ mysql koha < ./my_koha.sql 05:01 mtj the problem is… loading a sql file into mysql sometime fails 05:00 wajasu yeah. 05:00 mtj hmm, you are missing the problem 04:59 wajasu i guess no update script was done. 04:58 wajasu well, then write a migration script, to do just that (fine for one branch case), or write instructions for one who migrates and attach it to the bug. 04:57 wajasu you are trying to fix the bug. 04:56 wajasu oh yeah. you aren't trying to migrate. 04:55 mtj wajasu, what will that prove? 04:54 wajasu then load it in the new db. 04:54 wajasu and that update all the rows with your branchcode. then dump the table. 04:53 wajasu if your old db is a scrtach owrk db, try to alter the table to add branchcode http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9ded4fa008668df8c485fbbc76efa3cc9cc00d7#patch18 04:52 wajasu i know what you need to do. 04:52 mtj wajasu, letter.branchcode doesnt exist in my old (3.6.4) db 04:51 mtj Manderson, the wiki is probably a good start - but consider logging a bug, and sending it as a patch? 04:49 Manderson Hey, so I have a modified version of koha-zebra-ctl.sh that works with Redhat. I am making reference to it in my wiki page, but not quite sure that the wiki is the best place for it. Any ideas where I should put this? 04:48 wajasu is the branchcode nullable in your older version? 04:48 mtj if you delete it from the .sql file, the load is successful 04:48 mtj its also bizare that the 'message_transports_ibfk_3' constraint is the *only* one that fails 04:46 wajasu maybe if your db has one branch, you can update the table with its branchcode, then dump it and load it. 04:43 wajasu http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=a9ded4fa008668df8c485fbbc76efa3cc9cc00d7 04:42 mtj the 'drop db koha; create db koha' seems to be the quick-fix 04:42 mtj bad news is… how to fix that? 04:42 eythian I have a 'delete everything' script that makes sure everything has been deleted that I tend to use. 04:42 mtj so, good news is - that seems to be the cause 04:41 mtj … because the existing koha-3.8 db has some constraints/FKs that dont exist in the older 3.6 db 04:41 eythian hmm OK. maybe that's why I haven't noticed it for a while. Though I haven't been doing a lot of database loading anyway 04:40 mtj attempting to load in an old koha-3.6 db, after a koha-3.8 db, causes the 'Can't create table 'koha.letter' error 04:38 mtj ok, wow… ^^ that theory seems to be correct! :) 04:34 mtj hmm, i think the problem for me is that, im attempting to load an old 3.6 db, after a new 3.8 or master db 04:29 wajasu and there are probably notices that get sent with no specfic branchcode (needed for some reason) 04:28 wajasu i suspect the branchcode is to track from which branch the letter was sent, 04:27 wajasu for a DB that has the prior dataset. 04:27 wajasu if they removed the constraint for the branchcode, chances are you will get the error when just module and code are specified. 04:24 mtj 'show engine innodb status' seems to show that its the 'message_transports_ibfk_3' constraint, that its barfing on 04:23 mtj its such a random bug to reproduce even 04:22 wajasu well, it seems as if letters are sent cross-branch, where it might have been per-branch before? 04:21 mtj yeah, it has indeed :/ 04:19 eythian it's not a new bug, it's been there for a long time 04:18 mtj http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/letter.html 04:18 mtj bah, letter.branchcode *does* exist after all 04:16 wajasu if the branchcode was recently removed, maybe the schemspy is out of date. i would look at the git history to see who might have changed the structure/contstraint. 04:15 mtj rangi, what you think? re: SchemaSpy nighly cron 04:13 mtj is the fix... correct the FK , or add the missing 'branchcode' column?! 04:12 mtj re: 8471, i guess i might need to look for other references to letter.branchcode 04:12 wajasu i've run it and it churns for about 10 to 20 minutes i recall. 04:12 eythian *long 04:12 eythian dunno, not particularly wrong as far as I know 04:11 mtj does the refresh take so long, that its a no-go? 04:10 mtj i wonder if we (aka rangi) could get SchemaSpy to do a nightly cron refresh? 04:09 wajasu so maybe we should ask rangi to regenerate it since the release. 04:09 wajasu note: Generated by SchemaSpy on Fri Sep 28 09:20 NZST 2012 04:08 eythian it does contain the branchcode column in the schema link 04:08 mtj eythian, hell yeah, ive spent a buncha time too :/ 04:07 mtj the 'letter' table contains no 'branchcode' column, so its a glitchy FK 04:06 mtj wajasu, aaah perfect :) 04:04 wajasu http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/message_transports.html 04:04 eythian when you submit a patch, document the hell out of it giving examples of error messages. I've spent a bit of time googling that error to figure it out without success. 04:04 eythian tricky 04:04 mtj but, after applying the patch… no error 04:03 mtj ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 3237: Can't create table 'koha.letter' (errno: 150) 04:03 mtj $ mysql koha < ./my-koha.sql 04:03 eythian yeah, that sounds quite plausible 04:03 eythian ah 04:03 mtj $ mysql koha < /installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql 04:03 eythian I'm surprised it lets the FK be created in the first place then 04:03 mtj so, if you load /installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql into a db, then a koha.sql - you get that error 04:01 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "RDA Redux http://t.co/vB292xQO #kohails" 04:00 mtj so, thats my hunch… i was curious on someone elses opinionion 03:59 mtj the 'branchcode' column refered too, in the FK constraint does not exist? 03:58 mtj heres a fix -> http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=head-dev/.git;a=blobdiff;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=05ca08b5dbec12a9882e2b86730868a5f9b01ba6;hp=8648e189461830e63a2b7f002e65122e282ebcdb;hb=9bce09b0db3bcc25507bbd02f8079b5845260278;hpb=bd5bb8549bc962e00206b14aa417b89cb0adac03 03:58 mtj it's poss. a glitchy fk constraint in mysql-struct.sql 03:57 eythian that one always bugs me 03:57 eythian oh hey, that'd be good. 03:57 eythian :) 03:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8471 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , loading an sql file into mysql, often fails when loading the 'letter' table 03:57 mtj i think ive found the cause of this bug 8471 03:57 wahanui Don't ask to ask, just ask. 03:57 eythian wahanui: ask 03:56 mtj hey peepz, anyone about for a random foreign-key brain-slap… ? 03:08 * wizzyrea makes a mad face at bugzilla 03:04 jcamins Oh, it's already signed off. 03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9183 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , C4::Search should only have one ZOOM event loop 03:04 jcamins And while you're at it, sign off on bug 9183. 03:04 jcamins Try it, you'll like it! 03:03 wizzyrea ooo! 03:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries 03:02 jcamins Bug 9239! 03:02 jcamins QueryParser! 03:02 jcamins Okay, folks. Come and get it while it's hot! 02:56 jcamins Uploaded. 02:42 jcamins When I intentionally misconfigure QP, I get lousy search results, but no horrible error messages. 02:42 jcamins Awesome! 01:46 wizzyrea but whatever. 01:46 wizzyrea because that still submits the form wrongly 01:45 wizzyrea (barcode) 01:45 wizzyrea i'm still sorting out the last part of that. 01:45 wizzyrea well yes :) 01:45 wizzyrea OH 01:45 wahanui rumour has it the patch is pretty old now, good luck 01:45 jcamins The patch. 01:45 wizzyrea <.< 01:45 wizzyrea >.> 01:45 wizzyrea what'd I do 01:29 jcamins_away wizzyrea++ 01:27 wahanui OK, eythian. 01:27 eythian wahanui: kohacon photo is http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/7162934703/ 01:27 wahanui eythian: excuse me? 01:27 eythian wahanui: kohacon photo 01:27 wahanui eythian: what? 01:27 eythian wahanui: kohacon 01:27 wizzyrea sweet :) 01:27 eythian ah yep, found it 01:27 wizzyrea i am CERTAIN it is on a website somewhere - maybe even koha-community.org 01:26 eythian anyone have a copy of the group photo from KohaCon in Edinburgh?