| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:50 |
|
jcamins |
gmcharlt++ |
| 00:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
gmcharlt - is there any way to up the amount of time you get before the wiki kicks you out and makes you relogin? |
| 00:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
(and is there a reason not to do that since we are approving users) |
| 00:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: yes; I'll look into it |
| 00:52 |
|
rangi |
my login doesnt kick me out for days |
| 00:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
bless you kind sir |
| 00:52 |
|
rangi |
do you use openid wizzyrea ? |
| 00:52 |
|
rangi |
cos i dont |
| 00:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
it must be something to do with openid then? |
| 00:52 |
|
rangi |
sounds likely |
| 00:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
yeah |
| 00:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
hmmmm |
| 00:53 |
|
* wizzyrea |
was trying to be fancy pants and use openid |
| 00:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
but really it mostly annoys me. |
| 00:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
sso seems like such a good idea |
| 00:53 |
|
wizzyrea |
excpet when it's not |
| 00:53 |
|
eythian |
openid shouldn't matter, I'd expect it to be the cookie time. |
| 00:53 |
|
eythian |
maybe it's a session cookie? |
| 00:55 |
|
eythian |
wiki.koha-community.orgsession/wikidb_sessionc4d9d98b4c80d38dcdf5ea695972fe91 |
| 00:55 |
|
eythian |
err that looks ugly |
| 00:55 |
|
eythian |
hmm |
| 00:55 |
|
* eythian |
invalidates his session |
| 01:06 |
|
wizzyrea |
man mine kicks me out after like 20 mintues or something |
| 01:07 |
|
eythian |
weird. Well I've just switched to openid, so I'll keep an eye on it. I don't expect that to make a difference though. |
| 01:07 |
|
* eythian |
wishes browserid was a thing yet. |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
oh hey, it pretty much is a thing now |
| 01:09 |
|
eythian |
we should use that. |
| 01:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
... maybe it's a stupid setting I have in my account |
| 01:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
i admit that I didn't look >.< |
| 01:10 |
|
eythian |
http://identity.mozilla.com/po[…]elease-of-persona <-- a bit over a month ago |
| 01:11 |
|
rangi |
i gotta finish my implementation for koha |
| 01:11 |
|
rangi |
its about half done |
| 01:11 |
|
rangi |
i did it at kohacon |
| 01:11 |
|
eythian |
cool |
| 01:11 |
|
rangi |
its actually quite similair to the PKI stuffs |
| 01:12 |
|
rangi |
matching a user with an email |
| 01:12 |
|
eythian |
ah OK |
| 01:12 |
|
rangi |
just that we get the info from persona, not a cert |
| 01:28 |
|
gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: I've tried something that *might* increase the timeout for you to 24 hours -- please let me know if you see any change |
| 01:32 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh bless you |
| 01:43 |
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| 02:23 |
|
eythian |
http://youtu.be/dmEvPZUdAVI <-- Microsoft MS-DOS 5 upgrade training |
| 02:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
...oh no |
| 02:24 |
|
trea |
oh dear |
| 02:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
that's alarming. |
| 02:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
45k of memory! |
| 02:25 |
|
wizzyrea |
at LEAST |
| 02:26 |
|
trea |
i got 1:19 in before my ears started bleeding |
| 02:26 |
|
eythian |
heh |
| 02:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
oh you missed them rapping about a graphical shell |
| 02:26 |
|
jcamins |
Oh my. |
| 02:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
I know you wanted to know about that. |
| 02:26 |
|
wizzyrea |
also, it comes on 5in floppies |
| 02:27 |
|
jcamins |
Oh... my. |
| 02:27 |
|
* jcamins |
got to the graphical shell bit. |
| 02:29 |
|
wizzyrea |
5 1/4in I guess |
| 02:31 |
|
eythian |
well, they were the standard disk size around that time |
| 02:31 |
|
trea |
indeed |
| 02:32 |
|
eythian |
(June '91 specifically) |
| 02:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
what they had... 1.4 MB on each one? |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
depends |
| 02:33 |
|
wizzyrea |
or was that 3.5 in |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
1.2MB for the HD, 320K for the DD, or something along those lines |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
*740 maybe |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
I think it was 320 per side |
| 02:34 |
|
* druthb |
remembers those. 320 for SD, 640 for DD (flip 'em over!), and 1.2 MB for HD. |
| 02:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
there you have it :) |
| 02:34 |
|
* druthb |
had a C64 that could only read SDs...flip the disk to save moolah. |
| 02:34 |
|
druthb |
cut an extra write-protect notch, and you're good to go. |
| 02:34 |
|
trea |
ah, the good ol' days |
| 02:38 |
|
rangi |
mtj: stirrer :) |
| 02:39 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
| 02:39 |
|
mtj |
well… i reckon its a point worth noting, for all... |
| 02:39 |
|
rangi |
yup |
| 02:42 |
|
mtj |
… they might not be aware of the incompatibility between CC and GPL? |
| 02:44 |
|
mtj |
there is a small possibility it was a genuine mistake :) |
| 02:51 |
|
eythian |
there is something odd about link_bibs_to_authorities, it seems to be starting from bibnumber 1, even when my bib number range starts much higher than that. |
| 02:51 |
|
eythian |
but I can't see why it would do that. |
| 02:52 |
|
mtj |
the SQL is selecting on a bibnumber, even? |
| 02:52 |
|
eythian |
SELECT biblionumber FROM biblio $bib_where ORDER BY biblionumber ASC |
| 02:52 |
|
eythian |
yes |
| 02:53 |
|
jcamins |
eythian: are you using --where='biblionumber > 5432'? |
| 02:53 |
|
eythian |
no |
| 02:53 |
|
eythian |
Could not retrieve bib 139611 from the database - record is corrupt. |
| 02:53 |
|
eythian |
Could not retrieve bib 139614 from the database - record is corrupt. |
| 02:53 |
|
eythian |
... processed 139600 records |
| 02:53 |
|
eythian |
my numbers start around that mark |
| 02:53 |
|
eythian |
so now it's going happily |
| 02:53 |
|
jcamins |
Oh, I meant --bib-limit |
| 02:54 |
|
eythian |
no, no options at all |
| 02:54 |
|
jcamins |
Did you possibly clear out biblioitems but not biblio? |
| 02:55 |
|
eythian |
ah |
| 02:55 |
|
eythian |
hmm |
| 02:55 |
|
eythian |
yes |
| 02:55 |
|
eythian |
bother |
| 02:56 |
|
eythian |
I did clear items twice, to be sure, apparently. |
| 02:57 |
|
eythian |
delete from biblio where biblionumber<139615; |
| 02:57 |
|
eythian |
Query OK, 139583 rows affected (3.11 sec) |
| 02:57 |
|
eythian |
there, problem solved |
| 02:57 |
|
jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 02:57 |
|
rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ial:RecentChanges |
| 02:57 |
|
rangi |
first user moderated |
| 03:10 |
|
jcamins |
Yay! |
| 03:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
huzza |
| 03:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
h |
| 03:14 |
|
mtj |
http://www.techdirt.com/articl[…]/2322205106.shtml |
| 03:14 |
|
mtj |
That Blurry Line Between Commercial & Non-Commercial Use Still Troubling For Creative Commons |
| 03:15 |
|
mtj |
^^ something i've always been confused about too |
| 03:16 |
|
eythian |
oh yeah, there've been lots of surveys to try to pin down what that really means |
| 03:16 |
|
rangi |
lawyers love that |
| 03:16 |
|
rangi |
mo money mo money |
| 03:16 |
|
mtj |
stupid Q but… is Koha non-commerical use? |
| 03:16 |
|
rangi |
no |
| 03:17 |
|
jcamins |
No. |
| 03:17 |
|
jcamins |
Most definitely not. |
| 03:17 |
|
jcamins |
Koha is GPLed. |
| 03:17 |
|
jcamins |
The GPL protects my right to sell Koha, provided that I give my clients the source code. |
| 03:18 |
|
rangi |
it protects the rights of libraries to use koha |
| 03:18 |
|
rangi |
and lots of libraries are commercial enterprises |
| 03:18 |
|
rangi |
including public libraries |
| 03:18 |
|
rangi |
not for profit != non commercial |
| 03:19 |
|
jcamins |
rangi: that's arguably grayer than my (personal) right to sell Koha. |
| 03:19 |
|
rangi |
grey areas are what lawyers live for |
| 03:19 |
|
mtj |
lol, so true |
| 03:19 |
|
rangi |
if opus a for profit company uses koha, for commercial use |
| 03:20 |
|
rangi |
if it was under a NC license they couldnt |
| 03:20 |
|
rangi |
it doesnt just preclude your right to distribute |
| 03:20 |
|
mtj |
wow, nice example |
| 03:20 |
|
rangi |
it precludes your right to use |
| 03:25 |
|
rangi |
NC makes sense for a photograph ... maybe ... but not really even then |
| 03:27 |
|
eythian |
if you want people to show it and not sell it, yeah |
| 03:27 |
|
eythian |
though it's still vague |
| 03:27 |
|
eythian |
I mean, do ads on your blog count as commercial? |
| 03:28 |
|
rangi |
exactly |
| 03:31 |
|
jcamins |
Three and a half hours to prepare a bibliography just over three pages. |
| 03:33 |
|
* eythian |
just used BibTeX to do it all |
| 03:56 |
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| 04:01 |
|
user00 |
rangi: bit of bad weather around auckland? |
| 04:01 |
|
eythian |
3 people dead sort of bad weather, yeah |
| 04:02 |
|
user00 |
news reported a tornado, indicated tornados aren't very common in NZ |
| 04:03 |
|
ibeardslee |
not common at all ... but we do seem to be seeing more of them .. a sign of global warming? |
| 04:03 |
|
eythian |
we've always had them |
| 04:03 |
|
eythian |
but there have been a few more in the past couple of years |
| 04:04 |
|
eythian |
auckland typically gets a couple per year |
| 04:04 |
|
eythian |
only every few years do they cause damage |
| 04:04 |
|
eythian |
(well, notable damage) |
| 04:06 |
|
ibeardslee |
ok .. maybe I've just noticed them on the news more often |
| 04:06 |
|
user00 |
ic. Well tornados are common around here, including associated deaths and property damage. Hope that doesn't become the case there. |
| 04:07 |
|
eythian |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L[…]reaks#New_Zealand <-- I'm not convinced this is a statistically significant change |
| 04:07 |
|
eythian |
keeping in mind that this is just the reasonably significant ones |
| 04:08 |
|
rambutan |
still, 7 or so every half century? That's pretty rare. |
| 04:09 |
|
eythian |
yeah, most of ours aren't damaging. |
| 04:09 |
|
eythian |
We probably get them in Wellington but nobody notices. |
| 04:10 |
|
mtj |
hmm, do cc.org recommend using other licenses for software, rather than cc.org ones? |
| 04:10 |
|
mtj |
http://creativecommons.org/software |
| 04:11 |
|
eythian |
I'd expect them to point to the FSF. |
| 04:11 |
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rambutan |
http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]n_public.html.csp <- very destructive tornado about 340km from her |
| 04:11 |
|
rambutan |
e |
| 04:11 |
|
eythian |
yeah, I heard about that |
| 04:11 |
|
mtj |
ahh, they do -> http://wiki.creativecommons.or[…]ense_for_software.3F |
| 04:11 |
|
mtj |
'Can I apply a Creative Commons license to software? |
| 04:11 |
|
mtj |
We do not recommend it. ' |
| 04:12 |
|
mtj |
'We recommend considering licenses made available by the Free Software Foundation or listed at the Open Source Initiative. Unlike our licenses, which do not make mention of source or object code, these existing licenses were designed specifically for use with software. Furthermore, our licenses are not compatible with the GPL, the most frequently used free software license.' |
| 04:12 |
|
mtj |
wow, from the horses mouth |
| 04:14 |
|
mtj |
… you know you've chosen the wrong license, when its creator tells you not to use it, for that specific purpose |
| 04:15 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 04:15 |
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rangi |
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories[…]t-new-zealand.htm |
| 04:16 |
|
rangi |
From NIWA who are koha users |
| 04:16 |
|
rangi |
As of a few mins ago :) |
| 04:16 |
|
eythian |
well, I haven't seen them access their staff client just yet :) |
| 04:17 |
|
mtj |
awesome news |
| 04:17 |
|
eythian |
then again, they may be saving that for tomorrow morning. |
| 04:18 |
|
rangi |
:) |
| 04:32 |
|
rambutan |
and I'll be back in the morning too...time for my sleep quantum |
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| 06:13 |
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francharb |
hello #koha |
| 06:51 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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cait |
hello #koha |
| 07:20 |
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magnuse |
hiya cait and #koha |
| 07:22 |
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rangi |
evening |
| 07:23 |
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cait |
hi rangi and magnuse |
| 07:29 |
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magnuse |
kia ora rangi |
| 07:31 |
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magnuse |
rangi: thanks for nudging me in the direction of dancer - i like! |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
cool :) |
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alex_a_ |
hello |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, reiveune |
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julian_m |
bonjour |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
wow, MARC is crazy |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
| 09:08 |
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drojf |
and a very snowy morning too |
| 09:08 |
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rangi |
hi drojf |
| 09:08 |
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drojf |
magnuse: you realized that now? :D |
| 09:08 |
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drojf |
hi rangi :) |
| 09:10 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:10 |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -0.4°C (9:43 AM CET on December 06, 2012). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:11 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 09:11 |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (10:00 PM NZDT on December 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:12 |
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slef |
@wunder egfc |
| 09:12 |
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huginn |
slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:12 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 09:12 |
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wahanui |
hi, gaetan_B |
| 09:14 |
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slef |
@wunder egyh |
| 09:14 |
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huginn |
slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:14 |
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slef |
@wunder egfd |
| 09:14 |
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huginn |
slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:14 |
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slef |
huginn: you suck ;) |
| 09:14 |
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huginn |
slef: I suck |
| 09:15 |
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slef |
@wunder Leverington |
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huginn |
slef: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:15 |
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slef |
@wunder Holbeach |
| 09:15 |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Holbeach, United Kingdom is -1.0°C (8:50 AM GMT on December 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:15 |
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slef |
snow on the ground here, too |
| 09:30 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 09:30 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -5.0°C (10:20 AM CET on December 06, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:32 |
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magnuse |
you'd have to get up to 3-400 meters above sea level to find some old patches of snow here... |
| 09:58 |
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drojf |
magnuse: didn't you have 10° or 15° like a week ago or two? |
| 10:01 |
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drojf |
is it possible at all to use solr with 3.10 from packages? on squeeze i had to build a lot of packages manually to get about.pl/perl module happy but it still isn't working. i tried building moose (not sure if i have to) but gave up somewhen. if i'd upgrade to wheezy, koha-common and other stuff from the koha repo would be deinstalled. |
| 10:02 |
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rangi |
nope you cant use the solr stuff on squeeze |
| 10:02 |
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rangi |
unless you install moose from cpan rather than packages ... hence you cant use the packages |
| 10:03 |
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magnuse |
drojf: yeah, it's been cold for a long time, but no snow! |
| 10:04 |
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drojf |
wee need a wheezy repo then ;) |
| 10:04 |
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rangi |
when it's released :) |
| 10:05 |
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drojf |
it's debian. so in 10 years? :P |
| 10:05 |
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rangi |
nope |
| 10:06 |
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rangi |
it only started in march 2011 |
| 10:06 |
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drojf |
ah it's frozen june 2012. what does that mean for ETA? june 2013? |
| 10:07 |
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rangi |
http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 10:07 |
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rangi |
when that green line gets to the bottom |
| 10:07 |
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rangi |
release |
| 10:07 |
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drojf |
thanks |
| 10:08 |
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drojf |
so no solr for the library that asked me. i hope they are not crazy enough to run it from git |
| 10:09 |
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drojf |
i, of course, will… :) but only for fun. the indexing field interface is very promising |
| 10:09 |
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drojf |
just that i cannot build the index atm :D |
| 10:10 |
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rangi |
you can run it from packages you just have to install all the moose related modules from CPAN |
| 10:10 |
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rangi |
ie, you cant do it just from pacakges |
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drojf |
i am not going to recommend that ;) |
| 10:11 |
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rangi |
nope :) |
| 10:15 |
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* rangi |
heads to sleep |
| 10:17 |
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drojf |
good night rangi |
| 10:18 |
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francharb` |
hello all |
| 10:22 |
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drojf |
hi francharb` :9 |
| 10:22 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 10:22 |
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francharb` |
0 / |
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francharb` |
oups |
| 10:22 |
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francharb` |
0/ drojf |
| 10:22 |
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francharb` |
;) |
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| 12:18 |
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slef |
nudged bug 9052 - should we switch to libjs-yui? |
| 12:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, In Discussion , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages |
| 12:19 |
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kf |
slef: I think we are almost done with phasing out the YUI js libraries |
| 12:19 |
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slef |
kf: it'll be with us for 3.10, right? |
| 12:19 |
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kf |
the css grid |
| 12:19 |
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kf |
not the js I think |
| 12:20 |
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slef |
the css grid is in libjs-yui too AFAICT |
| 12:20 |
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kf |
but we would have a lot more files than we actually need |
| 12:21 |
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slef |
true, but I think 3.10 includes them all already |
| 12:21 |
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kf |
hm sure, I haven#t checked |
| 12:21 |
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kf |
looking for the yui bug rightnow |
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* slef |
hands huginn to kf |
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kf |
bug 5481 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI |
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kf |
oleonard will know :) |
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slef |
ASSIGNED enhancement probably means not in 3.10, right? |
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kf |
all attached sub bugs are resolved |
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kf |
hi drojf |
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drojf |
hi kf |
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kf |
hm I have no idea if the new person requesting a wiki account is real or not |
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* kf |
opts for yes |
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drojf |
kf: i was wondering how you do that |
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kf |
I googled and it seems there is a person with the name at least... so hopefully |
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drojf |
do the spam accounts have real names? |
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drojf |
real-sounding |
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kf |
not sure |
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kf |
we will find out |
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drojf |
i thought there were a lot of garbage-y things like shfsklhfsk something.tld when i looked at the list once |
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kf |
yeah, so I think it was a real person :) |
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drojf |
which could be a regular mail address of course :) |
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jcamins |
You know what I would like? I would like the "Add to list" dropdown on the OPAC to not open a pop-up if you're selected a specific list to add the items to. |
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jcamins |
Am I the only one who feels that way? |
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drojf |
jcamins: not a big fan of popups in general, the situation you describe sounds like it's superflous. but can't try it at the moment |
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kf |
jcamins: I agreewith you :) |
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jcamins |
All other issues aside, it keeps on running afoul of my pop-up blocker. |
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drojf |
i have all pop-ups open in a new tab. that is why i don't like them. but i dislike them even more if they pop up |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8240: Remove dead code from orderreceive <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c78cc3aff3a4597f> / Bug 9167: Standardize the sort field copyrightdate for lists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]951f62271f9b6f23d> |
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HB |
hey Koha |
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jcamins |
Good morning, HB. |
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HB |
annyone ever had this http://users.telenet.be/webwij[…]a/ris%20error.jpg i get is if i want to download a ris file or just do a download of a list |
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jcamins |
It looks like you're missing some of Koha's dependencies. |
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jcamins |
In this case, Text::CSV::Encoded. |
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jcamins |
If you're on a Debian or Ubuntu system, you should install it using `sudo apt-get install libtext-csv-encoded-perl` |
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HB |
ubuntu |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #968 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #966 2 days 0 hr ago) |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that command will work fine for you then. |
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HB |
ok ill try |
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jcamins |
What version of Koha, out of curiosity? |
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HB |
3.81 |
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HB |
gonna install 3.10 tomorrow |
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HB |
or monday :OP |
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jcamins |
If you're missing that package, there's a good chance that you're missing others as well. |
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jcamins |
If you look in the About page in the staff client, you can see what else you need. |
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jcamins |
Yay, no backlog in the "Passed QA" queue! |
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HB |
http://users.telenet.be/webwij[…]/koha/missing.jpg |
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HB |
there it is |
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jcamins |
Okay, Text::CSV::Encoded is the only one that you definitely need. |
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HB |
the red ones are bad probably :) |
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jcamins |
However, I'd encourage you to install all of them. |
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HB |
ok i gonna try that thx for the advice |
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HB |
did help |
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HB |
:) |
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HB |
is there a list of the dependensie names somewhere so i can install the other ? |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ for no backlog |
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slef |
@later tell gmcharlt the reg form says "I have read and agree to abide by the Terms of Service of Koha Wiki. The name I have specified under "Real name" is in fact my own real name." Either we need to add "Real name" or rephrase that. |
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huginn |
slef: The operation succeeded. |
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slef |
@seen gmcharlt |
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huginn |
slef: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 48 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> wizzyrea: I've tried something that *might* increase the timeout for you to 24 hours -- please let me know if you see any change |
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jcamins |
HB: you can just add "lib" at the beginning, replace '::' with '-' and add '-perl' at the end to get the package names. |
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kf |
jcamins++ :) |
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HB |
thx its done http://users.telenet.be/webwijzer/koha/done.jpg |
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jcamins |
That looks right. :) |
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HB |
learning stuff here :) |
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HB |
ok i try my other problem the people from the it department gave me an ip adress for the mail server but i did put it in the nullmailer conf file but still cant mail is there something i can do or read about that |
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jcamins |
Get rid of nullmailer. |
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* jcamins |
hates nullmailer. |
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jcamins |
I recommend postfix. |
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jcamins |
postfix? |
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wahanui |
postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix (but you probably can skip the SASL stuff) or at http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html |
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jcamins |
^^ that first one is the guide I used. |
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jcamins |
Everyone says that nullmailer is super-easy, but I've never managed to configure it. |
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HB |
if you cant how will i ever do it :) |
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HB |
ill try postfix |
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HB |
i start reading firrst |
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drojf |
what jcamins says about nullmailer. it never worked for me. |
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HB |
lol :) |
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gmcharlt |
slef: the ConfirmAccount extension has flags to enable requiring "Real Names" |
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gmcharlt |
I turned those off for the initial deployment, but what you're seeing is a bit of leftover |
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gmcharlt |
easily removed, of course, but I suppose that raises a question to consider: requiriing "real names"? |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #968: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/968/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 9167: Standardize the sort field copyrightdate for lists |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 8240: Remove dead code from orderreceive |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The sort field copyrightdate is not standardized |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8240 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is dead code in orderreceive.tt |
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slef |
gmcharlt: I think not. After all, what is "real" anyway? |
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slef |
gmcharlt: can we see the biog when reviewing the moderation queue? |
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slef |
nm I see that we can |
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slef |
that should be enough |
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gmcharlt |
cool |
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jcamins |
Myshkin just figured out how to use my external keyboard to change the brightness of my laptop screen. |
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kf |
he is so clever |
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jcamins |
He is. |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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reiveune |
bye |
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gerundio |
requirements? |
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gerundio |
system requirements? |
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jcamins |
hardware requirements? |
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jcamins |
I thought it was system requirements. |
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jcamins |
wahanui: are you there? |
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wahanui |
jcamins: bugger all, i dunno |
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jcamins |
Well, wahanui isn't locked up, so I guess it doesn't have anything about system requirements. |
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gerundio |
:| |
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gerundio |
this seems to be the closest I found: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]aring_your_system |
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francharb` |
hey there! |
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francharb` |
just a little question |
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francharb` |
I just checked the documentation but just a part of answer |
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francharb` |
how many notices |
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francharb` |
are display |
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francharb` |
within the notices tab |
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francharb` |
on the borrower account? |
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kf |
bye all |
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francharb` |
I guess it depends on the mysql message queue table |
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francharb` |
but are all notices display without limit? |
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francharb` |
can a patron see the notice he got 5 years ago? |
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gerundio |
jcamins, what would you consider to be a good memory value to set for a Koha production environment? |
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francharb` |
apparently, there is no limit to the number of notices displayed |
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francharb` |
C4::Letters::GetQueuedMessages says you can put a limit on how many notices will be return by the fonction |
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francharb` |
but the notices.pl didnt mention any limit when using the function |
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francharb` |
great |
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francharb` |
I just answered myself |
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francharb` |
perfect! |
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francharb` |
sorry for the annoyance |
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francharb` |
;) |
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smeagol |
Hi all...tryin' to do a dev git install and get error from installer that says, "ERROR 1166 (42000) at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed '" Not sure why i'm getting this mysql error, anyone? |
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jcamins |
gerundio: not less than 1GB. |
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gerundio |
I have 1GB at the moment |
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gerundio |
but I feel like it's not enough |
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jcamins |
How many records/users do you have? |
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gerundio |
no reason in particular... just a feeling :D |
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gerundio |
60k records at the moment |
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gerundio |
users might go up to 5k maybe |
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gerundio |
not really sure at this moment |
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jcamins |
1GB is definitely not enough. |
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gerundio |
2 or 4? |
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wahanui |
6 |
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jcamins |
lol |
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gerundio |
lolol |
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jcamins |
If you have enough, I'd go with 4. |
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jcamins |
It's probably not necessary, but... |
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jcamins |
when it's necessary, it's desperately necessary, yesterday. |
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gerundio |
I have enough |
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gerundio |
I'm backed up by a good IT team |
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oleonard |
That's nice to hear :) |
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gerundio |
hopefully they won't mind to spend 4 GB for this VM :D |
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rambutan |
gerundio, you're using a virtual machine? Is it the host machine that only has 1GB, or is only 1GB allocated in your VM manager> |
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gerundio |
all our servers are virtualized |
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gerundio |
..oO(I'm not the best person to answer this to you :p) |
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gerundio |
I meant 4GB for the koha server |
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gerundio |
not the whole vm manager |
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rambutan |
ic. If you can you might try bumping the memory allocated to the VM in the manager to 2GB, but using Virtual Box on Linux I've found pretty decent productivity with just 1 GB, |
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rambutan |
although most of my base hardware is pretty decent--multi-core or multi-processor CPUs and 4-8GB of memory. |
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rambutan |
BTW, as a separate plug for VirtualBox I've found it remarkably easy and reliable to do basic virtualization with on LInux (caveat: use the official download from Oracle, not the OSE deb packages). |
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jcamins |
I've been using Vagrant on FreeBSD. It's pretty nice. |
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gerundio |
I think our virtualization is based on Xen |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's what I'd use for production. |
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rambutan |
<obligatory acknowledgment on philosophical issues in dealing with proprietary vendors> |
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rambutan |
yea, Xen is good. |
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tcohen |
KVM is good too |
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rambutan |
yep, that too |
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tcohen |
Xen support paravirtualization, which is nice in some scenarios |
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rambutan |
at one point somebody was doing a Koha VM. Wonder if that's still available? |
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tcohen |
I prefer KVM as the hypervisor is inside the official kernel |
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tcohen |
(and maintained by them) |
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gerundio |
rambutan, I was at an event of the Koha PT community last week |
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rambutan |
PT? |
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gerundio |
they talked about a VM being made available for the users |
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gerundio |
Portuguese |
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rambutan |
ah |
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gerundio |
http://www.koha.pt/ |
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jcamins |
rambutan: yeah, Kyle has been releasing one every release. |
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gerundio |
I think they've stored it deep in the forum somewhere |
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gerundio |
with mandatory user registration to be able to download |
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gerundio |
:p |
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jcamins |
No, it's just on sourceforge. |
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jcamins |
There isn't a 3.10 appliance yet, though. |
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rambutan |
I think there's a potentially good market for vendors to sell a prebuilt appliance. Wouldn't be hard to put a decent machine together. |
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rambutan |
appliance = hardware and preloaded OS + Koha |
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gerundio |
how about the disk size for this kind of setup? |
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jcamins |
Sorry folks, the fifty e-mail messages are all my fault. |
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gerundio |
btw, what's your take on VMWare vs Virtualbox? |
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rambutan |
disks are cheap--solid state drives of 250GB are relatively inexpensive and would be sufficient for smaller databases, but you could plus it up as needed. |
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* jcamins |
heads into the city. |
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rambutan |
VMware is what you really have to have if you want to play in the big leagues--if you need to move massive running VM's from servers in Canada to servers in Singapore with just a drag and drop, you have to have VMware. |
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rambutan |
I've used their free VMware server in the past, and it worked well but eventually we just found VBox to be a good workable solution for our needs. But when we grow up, and have to manage 700 VMs around the world, we'll be using VMware. |
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rambutan |
I understand they give out pretty cool freebies, like coffee cups, if you buy into their systems. |
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rambutan |
Coffee cups are important. |
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gerundio |
rambutan, thanks for your input... my question was more regading for an at home small personal environment |
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rambutan |
VBox |
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drojf |
did i come into the right channel? what is all the nonfree software joy about? |
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rambutan |
IMHO, of course. Ack the above positive comments about Xen and KVM, of course |
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gerundio |
drojf, aren't off topics welcomed? |
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rambutan |
I've acknowledged those issues above. |
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rambutan |
gerundio: depends on the active chatters at the time. :) |
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rambutan |
and the VM discussion is related to Koha.... |
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drojf |
gerundio: without off topic talk there would be a lot of silence around here :P |
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drojf |
i was just confused entering into a praise for proprietary software |
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gerundio |
thankfully Koha's IRC users are very active |
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rambutan |
ah, not praise exactly, more like discussion of functional features |
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rambutan |
and there is an Deb-approved version of OSE VirtualBox, if you can get it to work |
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rambutan |
OSE=open source edition |
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drojf |
i don't think they have this classification anymore, the free one has just less functionality now and you need nonfree extras for some things |
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rambutan |
you may be right, I don't see the OSE now. |
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drojf |
Since version 4.0 The PUEL/OSE separation was given up in favor of an open source base product and a closed source extension pack that can be installed on top of the base product. As part of this change, additional components of VirtualBox were made open source (installers, documentation, device drivers) |
| 17:55 |
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rambutan |
However, you can build the GPLv2 from sources... https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads |
| 17:56 |
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rambutan |
quote: "The VirtualBox sources are available free of charge under the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License, Version 2." |
| 17:56 |
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drojf |
yup and it has what you need to run koha in that version |
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rambutan |
yep |
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rangi |
Morning |
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wahanui |
Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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rangi |
I use virt-manager and kvm (fwiw) |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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rangi |
Hey oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.39 in 995 hPa (Steady). |
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smeagol |
ERROR 1166 (42000) at line 1871: Incorrect column name 'closed, anyone ever see this on an install? |
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rangi |
Looks like some zealous person removed the back ticks on a mysql file |
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rangi |
I done warned them :) |
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rangi |
Can you look in kohastructure.sql please |
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rangi |
And see if you can find the column closed |
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rangi |
And put backticks around the word closed that might fix it |
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rangi |
I'm on my phone or is try |
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rangi |
Is=I'd |
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oleonard |
Could a space cause that problem? I see "`closed `" |
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rangi |
Hmm yes |
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rangi |
That could break it too |
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smeagol |
Um..should i wait, or try to install a diff version?.and thanks for yor response |
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tcohen |
mrning rangi |
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tcohen |
s/rn/orn/ |
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rangi |
smeagol: is it 3.10.0 ? |
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rangi |
hey trea, nicer weather today eh? |
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rangi |
hiya tcohen |
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trea |
i'll say |
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rangi |
hmm no file seems ok there |
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rangi |
oleonard: where did you see the space .. in master? |
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oleonard |
Yes. I was looking at gitweb, it's in the patch for Bug 8782 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8782 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add a feature to close a subscription |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
yeah its fine in 3.10.x and 3.8.x |
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rangi |
smeagol: are you trying to install master ? from git? |
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* rangi |
was worried we had released something like that ... phew |
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rangi |
either way, id file a bug |
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smeagol |
i did git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone |
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rangi |
right, so you are running master .. (the pre release code) this is in dev right eh, just for developing/testing ? |
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smeagol |
Actually, no I wanted to install stable (i guess) so i can create a branch and contribute code |
| 19:13 |
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smeagol |
I guess I have to state what version I want to track/install? |
| 19:13 |
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rangi |
you should contribute code based on master |
| 19:13 |
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smeagol |
Not too familiar with git yet |
| 19:13 |
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rangi |
if you want to use koha, you should run from the releases |
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rangi |
if you want to develop, then master is fine |
| 19:13 |
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smeagol |
This is just for development purposes |
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rangi |
your first patch could be removing that space :) |
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smeagol |
I haven't submitted a patch yet |
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jcamins_away |
Right, so if you want to submit code, you must track master. |
| 19:15 |
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smeagol |
Right. But this happened when i tried to run the installer:8080 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, so the first thing you do is remove the space. |
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jcamins_away |
Then you go through the installer. |
| 19:15 |
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jcamins_away |
And if it worked, you submit a patch removign the space. |
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smeagol |
Well, I'm just trying to INSTALL koha, at this point on my server. I don't know how it's "removing" a space.. |
| 19:16 |
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tcohen |
RM jcamins_away sir, what will u do about 8519? |
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jcamins_away |
bug 8519 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup |
| 19:17 |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Get to it when he can, I'm guessing? |
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jcamins_away |
tcohen: I was going to push it. |
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jcamins_away |
:) |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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jcamins_away |
I am comfortable with including it, even if it's not going to be generally used yet. |
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jcamins_away |
smeagol: in order to install Koha you need to remove the extra space from the kohastructure.sql file, right? |
| 19:18 |
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jcamins_away |
(answer: yes) |
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tcohen |
its the only way to get it polished i guess |
| 19:18 |
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jcamins_away |
So the first thing you have to do is remove that space. |
| 19:18 |
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jcamins_away |
Then you can install Koha. |
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jcamins_away |
Checking out an older version and then upgrading would be extra work, and removing that space is a patch that will make it into Koha very quickly, so you can have a commit to your name next week. :) |
| 19:22 |
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smeagol |
ok..i'll look into that. Haven't really seen that in install notes. thanks |
| 19:22 |
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jcamins_away |
It's not in the install notes. |
| 19:22 |
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jcamins_away |
It's a bug. |
| 19:22 |
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jcamins_away |
Which you just discovered. |
| 19:22 |
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jcamins_away |
Actually, let's start over. |
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jcamins_away |
first question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
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jcamins_away |
(the instructions will change drastically if I have misunderstood and your goal is not to write code to contribute to Koha) |
| 19:25 |
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smeagol |
Install koha git dev on my server here, create a branch, hack away, and submit code to the community, hopefully..if all goes well! |
| 19:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Okay, good. I understood correctly. |
| 19:25 |
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jcamins_away |
So the reason you can't install Koha is because you have discovered a new bug. |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins_away |
Your best course of action is to fix this new bug, install Koha, and submit the patch for it. |
| 19:26 |
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smeagol |
Yes, apparently |
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jcamins_away |
Earlier oleonard indicated there is an extra space after "closed" but before a backtick in installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql. |
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smeagol |
ok..i think i got you now. I'll get back to you. |
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jcamins_away |
The first step no matter what, of course, is to report a bug on bugs.koha-community.org. :) |
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smeagol |
ok. will do. |
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smeagol |
I thought that it was something I was doing wrong during the install.. |
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jcamins_away |
Nope. Just a bug. |
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smeagol |
ok..i'll call Zed..we have to protect the galaxy... |
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smeagol |
thx |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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* jcamins_away |
waves from the distance. |
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cait |
hi jcamins_away and rangi :) |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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cait |
my tablet arrived *squeee* |
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wizzyrea |
! what kind did you get? |
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jcamins_away |
cait: so tonight you're going to install Koha on it? :) |
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cait |
not sure koh aworks on android |
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wizzyrea |
this seems - impractical |
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wizzyrea |
lol. |
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cait |
well...... quite sure it does not probably |
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jcamins_away |
cait: it will after you've made it work! |
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wizzyrea |
I'm sure it could be done but... |
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cait |
I might better spend this time on qa and other things :) |
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jcamins_away |
True. |
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cait |
the plan is to install koha on a server sometime soon and access that from the tables |
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cait |
tablet |
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wizzyrea |
that will work fine |
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cait |
wizzyrea: it's cute and tiny :) |
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drojf |
cait: run a virtual machine with debian on it :P |
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oleonard |
Seriously, spam on Bugzilla? Yuck. |
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jatara |
Hi...which files/directories within Koha deal with permissions for staff users? |
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oleonard |
What are you trying to do/understand jatara? |
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drojf |
oleonard: really? what is the goal of that? make us accidentally push it into koha? :D |
| 20:03 |
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* drojf |
will not sign off on a spambug |
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oleonard |
I don't know drojf, rangi deleted a spam attachment but I didn't see what it was |
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drojf |
maybe some cool functionality! |
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jatara |
not a spambug..just a computer geek who is trying to see if i can isolate the source of a bug i filed yesterday 9220 |
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jcamins_away |
jatara: permissions-related code is all over. |
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jcamins_away |
jatara: no, there was a spam bug earlier today. :) |
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oleonard |
Bug 9220? |
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drojf |
jatara: i did not mean you .) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9220 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Unchecking "create SQL reports" prevents staff member from being able to run reports |
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drojf |
:) |
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jatara |
thanks for not breaking out the RAID on me :) |
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tcohen |
guys, i've sent a patch to DSpace, i can now say I LOVE the way the Koha team works |
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jcamins_away |
jatara: I expect the problem is going to be in the reports/ scripts. |
| 20:06 |
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jatara |
off-topic by the way, why do the commercials say "kills bug dead"? isnt' that rather redundant? |
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jatara |
@jcamins_away i'm thinking that as well |
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huginn |
jatara: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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jcamins_away |
My guess is reports/guided_reports.pl has some bug in it. |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Example from guided_reports.pl" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/301 |
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oleonard |
jatara: That link is for you |
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oleonard |
I don't know that that is where the problem is, but it's an example of permissions being defined |
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drojf |
tcohen: that bad? |
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drojf |
the way it works at DSpace i mean |
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jatara |
Thanks so much! Just need to find out where $flagsrequired is being set |
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jatara |
because that's where it's going awry |
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oleonard |
It's being set right there. |
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rangi |
drojf: it was just a piece of html, wasnt a patch just wanted ppl to see it |
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rangi |
tcohen: what happened with dspace, they threw the patch on the floor? |
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drojf |
rangi: ah, ok. some sophisticated patch spamming would be interesting ;) |
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drojf |
and an automatical spam rebaser |
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jcamins_away |
lol |
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cait |
hmpf. |
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cait |
I have to charge it for 8 hours before first use. |
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jcamins_away |
cait: yes, Shari was very unhappy about that too. |
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drojf |
can't you use it while it charges? |
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cait |
jcamins_away: did she manage to wait? |
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jcamins_away |
However, I have good news! There are patches to test while it's charging! |
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jcamins_away |
Yes, I think so. |
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drojf |
cait: what a tablet did you get? |
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drojf |
tcohen seems to have had a shock timeout from that dspace thing |
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rangi |
thats probably the java |
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rangi |
it destroys the internet |
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drojf |
lol |
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rangi |
one user at a time |
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jcamins_away |
lol |
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cait |
asus transformer |
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wizzyrea |
cait won't tell us what she got! |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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wizzyrea |
nm lol. |
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wizzyrea |
cool, you'll like |
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wizzyrea |
it |
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* wizzyrea |
had one of those |
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cait |
I heard so from several people :) |
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cait |
oh had? |
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wizzyrea |
I erm, traided it for a nexus 7 |
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cait |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
traid? trade. |
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wizzyrea |
sheesh |
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cait |
I wanted the keyboard |
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wizzyrea |
ah yea. |
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wizzyrea |
it was a nice tablet, too big for me though. Nexus is much better for me. |
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cait |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
I use it a lot more, if that's a metric by which one judges tablet success. |
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cait |
I hope to use it when travelling, typing things |
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cait |
looking at distance study stuff |
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wizzyrea |
ah yep and it'll last for ages |
| 20:18 |
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wizzyrea |
and ages |
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wizzyrea |
and ages |
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cait |
I hope so :) |
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wizzyrea |
on it's double battery |
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cait |
it'a lot less heavy than my laptop - that's for sure |
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drojf |
if you are like me you will carry around both in the future |
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cait |
... I certainly see that happening |
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oleonard |
The woman next to me at the conference had an iphone and an ipod touch along with her laptop and she used them all to chat and check facebook |
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jatara |
a touch and an iphone? why? |
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oleonard |
I don't know! |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: it wasn't heather was it |
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cait |
jcamins++ # you were busy |
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drojf |
"my music is on the ipod, no idea how i would copy it over (or don't know i could)" |
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jcamins_away |
cait: busy doing what? |
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wizzyrea |
she'd have an iphone, an ipad, and at least one laptop |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, right. |
| 20:23 |
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jcamins_away |
The bugs. |
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wahanui |
rumour has it the bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too |
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wizzyrea |
mac of course. |
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cait |
yep |
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drojf |
jcamins_away: do you have starman running on squeeze or wheezy? i remember now why i never installed it, it wants me to build a gazillion things myself |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Pretty sure it wasn't although I've never met heather. This woman seemed to have come just for the peace and quiet |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: I have it on Ubuntu 12.04. |
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drojf |
ah. that probably helps |
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jcamins_away |
I think I just installed a Starman package. |
| 20:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Yes, apt-get install starman |
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drojf |
ts. poser OS. :P |
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jcamins_away |
magnuse: bug 9202 may be of interest to you. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , TT plugin to allow direct display of MARC::Records |
| 20:27 |
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drojf |
oh i have seen that and i think it's pretty cool |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: excellent! You should sign off. :P |
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drojf |
how do you want that tested? just go nuts with all optionsß |
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jcamins_away |
Yup. |
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jcamins_away |
It's a framework for future development. |
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jcamins_away |
It would make it easy to have user-defined record views, for example. |
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drojf |
ok i'll try to have some time to play with it tomorrow |
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jcamins_away |
I expect there will be a couple of bugs. |
| 20:30 |
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jcamins_away |
I wrote it for a non-Koha project then made it general purpose, rather than going the other way. |
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cait |
drojf++ :) |
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drojf |
vorschusslorbeeren ;) |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
nicht wirklich :) |
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drojf |
i think i'm done with the script and more or less the evaluation for the workshop. now if somebody could write something in english about it… |
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cait |
do it like I do it- write something and then ask a friend to proof read (not me, a native speaker) |
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cait |
especialy the not me part is important :P |
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drojf |
the problem is not writing in english but writing at all :D |
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cait |
hm yes |
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drojf |
i don't know what to tell so that is actually of any interest to someone reading the newsletter |
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drojf |
"we installed koha" isn't ;) |
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cait |
how many people attended |
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cait |
where it took place... problems you ran into and that everyone took home their very own koha installation |
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jcamins_away |
Google Translate? |
| 20:51 |
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jcamins_away |
(the message on the list) |
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oleonard |
"is it possible" meaning "Can someone please do this soon and free?" |
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drojf |
i have no idea wtah the question is |
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drojf |
the opac works with a tablet by default? |
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jcamins_away |
oleonard: the "consultation" bit is what makes me think that the e-mail started out as perfectly fluent something-not-English. |
| 20:54 |
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wizzyrea |
all of koha works with tablets as far as I know |
| 20:55 |
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drojf |
i'm pretty sure it does with mine :) |
| 20:55 |
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wizzyrea |
mine too |
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jcamins_away |
And the CCSR theme for the OPAC scales down well for much smaller devices. |
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drojf |
cait: to the test! ;) |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: in 7:30. :P |
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drojf |
oh, charging. sorry |
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wizzyrea |
drojf what kind of tab do you have? |
| 20:55 |
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drojf |
wizzyrea: hp touchpad |
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cait |
drojf: I have to wait 8 hours... remember |
| 20:55 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, heh |
| 20:55 |
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drojf |
cait: yes i remembered :( |
| 20:55 |
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wizzyrea |
but you run android on it? |
| 20:56 |
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wizzyrea |
or webos |
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drojf |
wizzyrea: no, webOS and a ubuntu chroot |
| 20:56 |
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wizzyrea |
I am glad that works for you |
| 20:56 |
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* wizzyrea |
would probably not go that route. |
| 20:56 |
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wizzyrea |
my best friend has a touchpad - she put android on hers |
| 20:57 |
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wizzyrea |
it's tolerable with android on it ^.^ |
| 20:57 |
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* wizzyrea |
is not a fan of webos. |
| 20:57 |
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drojf |
i'm not a big fan of android (not that i have much experience). webOS is obviously not complete but i can live with it |
| 20:58 |
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drojf |
i only got it because it was 99€. i would not have bought it for >400€ |
| 20:58 |
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wizzyrea |
oh definitely |
| 20:58 |
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wizzyrea |
I would not buy one of them for anything over 99 |
| 20:58 |
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wizzyrea |
if you haven't used android in the last 18 months - it is not the same OS as what you would have seen 2 years ago |
| 20:59 |
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drojf |
it's ridiculous that HP sold them for full price in that state |
| 20:59 |
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wizzyrea |
no kidding. |
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drojf |
i was thinking of trying dual boot at some point, but since i only got 16gb and the chroot needs an extra partition that is not really an option. or i stuff the thing with operating systems and not use anything ;) |
| 21:01 |
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wizzyrea |
or nuke webos :P |
| 21:01 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 21:01 |
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wizzyrea |
j/k, your way is perfect for you |
| 21:01 |
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drojf |
then i lose my ubuntu too |
| 21:01 |
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wizzyrea |
as long as you are happy |
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drojf |
one day i will have openwebOS. if they ever backport it ^^ |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: did you install Koha on it yet? |
| 21:03 |
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drojf |
jcamins_away: not really. but i know i should ;) |
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oleonard |
See you later #koha |
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eythian |
hi |
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cait |
hi eythian :) |
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eythian |
http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ede3/ |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
wiggles and squirms, is evil |
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remi |
hi |
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cait |
hi remi |
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remi |
i'm thinking of installing koha on a server that's running my website |
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remi |
can i do it? |
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remi |
bit confused |
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drojf |
that is a pretty vague question |
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wizzyrea |
remi: that should be possible |
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drojf |
is that a root server? what os is it running… |
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remi |
debian |
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wizzyrea |
if you mean "I have a linux server that runs my website and I want koha to be an additional host on this machine" |
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wizzyrea |
(which is what I read) |
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remi |
yes |
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drojf |
if you have root access that sounds alright |
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francharb |
see ya all |
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drojf |
hm |
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jatara |
:) |
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