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Message |
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bag |
heh |
| 00:00 |
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libsysguy |
I'm trolling koha aloha |
| 00:00 |
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libsysguy |
but can't seem to find it |
| 00:02 |
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eythian |
"kohaaloha is bad and mtj should feel bad!" -- that sort of trolling? |
| 00:02 |
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libsysguy |
oh no, trolling like a motor |
| 00:02 |
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libsysguy |
not like trolololol |
| 00:03 |
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libsysguy |
logs? |
| 00:03 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 00:03 |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/v1PBptSDIh8 <-- so more like this? |
| 00:04 |
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libsysguy |
LOL |
| 00:05 |
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libsysguy |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boh92DrYEWs |
| 00:06 |
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eythian |
http://www.thebestdamnpoll.com[…]mages/roflmao.gif |
| 00:13 |
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| 00:17 |
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libsysguy |
lol |
| 00:17 |
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libsysguy |
i found mtj's git repo |
| 00:17 |
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libsysguy |
we're good now |
| 00:18 |
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jcamins |
Someone from Luxembourg, of all places, is spidering one of my clients' entire catalogs. |
| 00:22 |
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eythian |
do you think anyone would object to a patch making quick slips include the address? This is actually already implemented, it's just when you select quick slip, it takes you to the slightly less detailed one. |
| 00:22 |
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eythian |
It just seems too small to make a syspref for |
| 00:23 |
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eythian |
I might make the patch anyway, see if anyone complains and if they do, deal with it then. |
| 00:25 |
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wizzyrea |
eythian: don't the customizable slips - can't you add that there |
| 00:25 |
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eythian |
oh, when do/did they come about? |
| 00:25 |
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wizzyrea |
3.8 |
| 00:25 |
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| 00:26 |
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wizzyrea |
if you can't get a proper address now, the right place to add that is probably notices |
| 00:26 |
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eythian |
hmm yes |
| 00:26 |
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eythian |
I shall have a look. |
| 00:26 |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 00:26 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 00:32 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: I think you're exactly right with that notices thing. |
| 00:41 |
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wizzyrea |
ask srdjan about how much he loves bug 7001 ;) |
| 00:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , User Configurable Slips |
| 01:04 |
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| 01:19 |
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jcamins |
My god I hate MARC-8. |
| 01:22 |
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jcamins |
It's like someone said "I know, let's take rule 123, combine it with incompetence, stupidity, and malice, and turn that into something we'll call a 'character set' that really isn't." |
| 01:23 |
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rangi |
yup |
| 01:29 |
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wizzyrea |
MARC-8 is let's take rule 123, combine it with incompetence, stupidity, and malice, and turn that into something we'll call a 'character set' that really isn't. |
| 01:29 |
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wizzyrea |
MARC-8? |
| 01:29 |
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wahanui |
MARC-8 is let's take rule 123, combine it with incompetence, stupidity, and malice, and turn that into something we'll call a 'character set' that really isn't. |
| 01:32 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 01:39 |
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jcamins |
Also, has anyone ever noticed that "export records in utf-8"... doesn't? |
| 01:41 |
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| 01:47 |
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jcamins |
Actually, I take that back. |
| 01:47 |
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jcamins |
The records are in UTF-8, but the leader is set to MARC-8 on export. |
| 01:49 |
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eythian |
Heh, I had a lot of records that were the reverse of that |
| 01:51 |
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jcamins |
eythian: I'm used to the other way around. |
| 01:51 |
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jcamins |
It irritates me no end, but I'm used to it. |
| 01:54 |
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jcamins |
OPAC? |
| 01:54 |
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wahanui |
OPAC is for patrons |
| 02:03 |
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| 02:19 |
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jcamins |
I have a TT puzzle. |
| 02:19 |
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jcamins |
I have a variable stored in an array. |
| 02:19 |
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jcamins |
[% FOREACH fmo IN fmos %] works exactly as you'd expect. |
| 02:19 |
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jcamins |
However, I would like to know that there is at least one member of fmos before I print the label. |
| 02:20 |
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jcamins |
Anyone know how to do that? |
| 02:25 |
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jcamins |
Right, figured it out. |
| 02:25 |
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jcamins |
fmos.defined(0) |
| 03:27 |
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mtj |
hmm, i wonder if libsys found my bootstap repo ok... |
| 03:28 |
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mtj |
atm, i cant remember where i put it, even |
| 03:29 |
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mtj |
jcamins_away, thanks for posting this interesting list -> http://paste.koha-community.org/298 |
| 03:53 |
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mtj |
wow, great topic on /. -> http://developers.slashdot.org[…]-moores-law-gains |
| 03:56 |
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mtj |
"I've been in the industry for decades, and every couple of years someone comes out with yet another programming language or technique that is supposed to revolutionize application parallelization. This is just another one, and many years behind the rest of the industry from what I can tell." |
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vkm |
hello all, may i know is it necessary to keep accession series separate while managing multiple library |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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vkm |
hi |
| 05:19 |
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wahanui |
privet, vkm |
| 05:20 |
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vkm |
privet means |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
privet is hello in russian - don't mind the bot :) |
| 05:23 |
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vkm |
oh thz i learn russian one word privet |
| 05:24 |
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vkm |
in managing multiple branch is it necessary to keep accession number/series separate to avoid duplicate number |
| 05:24 |
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cait |
hi clrh :) |
| 05:24 |
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cait |
vkm: do you imean inventory numbers ($i) or barcodes? |
| 05:24 |
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vkm |
yes |
| 05:25 |
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vkm |
barcodes |
| 05:25 |
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wahanui |
barcodes are all in weird places |
| 05:25 |
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cait |
have you looked into the autobarcode settings? |
| 05:25 |
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cait |
koha should never allow you to add duplicate barcodes |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
it also depends, if you are using preprinted barcodes or want koha to generate them |
| 05:26 |
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vkm |
suppose i have many branch exist but at present their accession/barcode is same, so is it possible to manage them in koha without changing barcodes |
| 05:28 |
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cait |
oh |
| 05:28 |
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cait |
i think there was done some development in this direction |
| 05:28 |
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cait |
but it's not available in koha right now |
| 05:28 |
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cait |
maybe search bugzilla for barcode prefixes |
| 05:29 |
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cait |
bug 7676 |
| 05:29 |
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vkm |
i thing in multiple libraries case it should be like that |
| 05:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7676 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, In Discussion , Barcode Prefixes |
| 05:29 |
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vkm |
to accept same barcode/accession number because of different brances |
| 05:30 |
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cait |
yes, look into the bug description |
| 05:30 |
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cait |
vkm: the prefixes are 'virtual' |
| 05:30 |
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cait |
the barcodes in the books can be duplicate, the prefix is by branch |
| 05:31 |
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cait |
to make it unique for the database, as far as I unerstand |
| 05:34 |
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vkm |
thx i will check |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 07:23 |
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* cait |
waves back |
| 07:24 |
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magnuse |
yay! :-) |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 07:48 |
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wahanui |
what's up, reiveune |
| 07:51 |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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Joubu |
hello #koha |
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clrh |
hello clrh |
| 08:23 |
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clrh |
hello Caitttt :) |
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alex_a |
hello clrh !! |
| 08:26 |
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alex_a |
:) |
| 08:26 |
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alex_a |
and cait :) |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
| 10:28 |
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gerundio |
oi vfernandes :) |
| 10:28 |
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gerundio |
tudo bem? |
| 10:31 |
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vfernandes |
sim... português? |
| 10:43 |
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gerundio |
sim, sou o Rolando :) |
| 10:44 |
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gerundio |
can anyone explain to me the LDAP auth workflow after the 1st login? |
| 10:44 |
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gerundio |
is a user supposed to be able to log in using his card number as his username? |
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vfernandes |
there is any perl method in any pm that check if the patron has any item of the record? |
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tcohen__ |
morning #koha |
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vfernandes |
good morning tcohen |
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| 12:15 |
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gerundio |
I just noticed I'm able to login with my LDAP credentials even after turning LDAP auth off |
| 12:15 |
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gerundio |
looking at the borrowers table I find that there's and hash value on the password field for my uid |
| 12:18 |
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gerundio |
is this standard behavior? |
| 12:27 |
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kf |
gerundio: of course |
| 12:27 |
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kf |
gerundio: password fields are encrypted in the database for security reasons |
| 12:28 |
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vfernandes |
kf: here is any perl method in any pm that check if the patron has any item of the record? |
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kf |
I would think yes |
| 12:31 |
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kf |
but I can't tell you which |
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kf |
when you delete a patron such things are checked, maybe you can trace it from there |
| 12:31 |
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kf |
hi drojf |
| 12:31 |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
| 12:31 |
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drojf |
hi kf :) |
| 12:31 |
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vfernandes |
i need it for bug 9206 |
| 12:31 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9206 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, NEW , Only allow place holds in records that the patron don't have in his possession |
| 12:35 |
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drojf |
has the account registration email problem with the wiki never been solved or is it back again? |
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vfernandes |
kf the method I need doesn't seems to exist... where should I create it? |
| 12:38 |
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vfernandes |
C4::Members or C4::Circulation? |
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kf |
vfernandes: maybe ask jcamins_away |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: what does the method need to do exactly? |
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koyauni |
hi guys, my server has stopped working and the Apache web server is not responding, can you please tell me how I backup my library os at least have thatcoverd |
| 13:35 |
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jcamins |
Use the koha-dump program. |
| 13:36 |
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jcamins |
Hasn't this happened before at least once and possibly twice? |
| 13:38 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8945' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2c8c53e2f91863bc2> / Bug 8945: Did you mean help file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]af420be5a1cfb0234> |
| 13:41 |
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koyauni |
Once yes :( |
| 13:41 |
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koyauni |
in Oct |
| 13:41 |
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koyauni |
this bloody Plesk is soooooooooo damn |
| 13:42 |
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koyauni |
how do I access this koha dump please |
| 13:42 |
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jcamins |
You run `koha-dump library` and copy the files out of /var/spool/koha/library. |
| 13:42 |
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jcamins |
`man koha-dump` may be useful to you. |
| 13:43 |
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jcamins |
There are also nightly backups stored in that directory if you haven't made any changes since last night. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #966 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:47 |
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koyauni |
root koyauniversity ~ # koha-dump library -bash: koha-dump: command not found |
| 13:47 |
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jcamins |
You will have to locate that command. |
| 13:48 |
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jcamins |
Hey, didn't we go through this exact thing before when you uninstalled Koha by accident? |
| 13:49 |
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jcamins |
Look in /var/spool/koha/library. |
| 13:49 |
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jcamins |
If the backups are there, use those. |
| 13:50 |
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koyauni |
no last time was exactly the same thing, bloody Plesk did auto update and wipped files so appache had isntuction to buidl them but coud not find them, so I installed Koha again and that solved issue |
| 13:50 |
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jcamins |
logs? |
| 13:50 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 13:51 |
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jcamins |
^^ if you look in there you should be able to find the instructions from when we did this last time. |
| 13:52 |
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koyauni |
I see the back ups in spool and I did created one today by mysqldump -u koha_library -p koha_library > myKohaLibrary.sql |
| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
Good, that should be everything you need. |
| 13:53 |
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koyauni |
and it has created that, I guess I have to reinstalll Koha now, Sorry would you please tell me where I find koha-dump |
| 13:54 |
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gerundio |
kf, back from lunch |
| 13:54 |
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koyauni |
so I can install that for next time |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins |
It's part of the Koha package. |
| 13:54 |
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koyauni |
so I just install it, |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 13:54 |
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koyauni |
or it should already be on my system |
| 13:54 |
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gerundio |
just saw your answer to my earlier question regarding the LDAP authentication method and a password being cyphered and stored in the DB |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins |
This is, of course, a perfect example to why everyone told you not to use Plesk. |
| 13:55 |
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koyauni |
I have not, this is server hosting pack we bough an dit was on it, |
| 13:55 |
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gerundio |
thanks for the reply |
| 13:56 |
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koyauni |
so we have many sites, and now all of them are not accessible, since Apache is not reposnding |
| 13:56 |
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gerundio |
even though it's not clear to me why there's need to store the user pass on the DB when we're dealing with LDAP auth |
| 13:57 |
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jcamins |
gerundio: there's a patch to disable that. |
| 13:58 |
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gerundio |
now we're talking jcamins :) |
| 13:58 |
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gerundio |
can you point me to it? |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins |
gerundio: I can try. |
| 13:58 |
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magnuse |
gerundio: bug 9165 |
| 13:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9165 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow preventing passwords from being stored locally when using LDAP |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins |
Bug 9165 |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 13:58 |
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jcamins |
magnuse already said it. |
| 13:59 |
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jcamins |
You should sign off. :) |
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| 14:09 |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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gerundio |
jcamins, btw, any good reason to store the LDAP password in the BD? |
| 14:15 |
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jcamins |
gerundio: maybe if your LDAP connection is iffy? |
| 14:15 |
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* jcamins |
is grasping. |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: any ideas? |
| 14:16 |
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wahanui |
any ideas are welcome :) |
| 14:16 |
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koyauni |
This installed Koha 3.10.00.000 |
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libsysguy |
BD? |
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jcamins |
We have 139 bugs at "Needs Signoff" |
| 14:16 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: DB |
| 14:17 |
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libsysguy |
oh, you mean users passwords from LDAP? |
| 14:17 |
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libsysguy |
I actually think its a terrible idea to store it |
| 14:17 |
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koyauni |
but my domain with extended :8080 works, do I have re run any configuration command please |
| 14:18 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: not unless you set up something strangely. |
| 14:19 |
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gerundio |
libsysguy, my thoughts too |
| 14:19 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: as a note, this is going to happen again in exactly two months. You should learn to troubleshoot these problems, since you're going to have them every two months until you stop using the server. |
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koyauni |
I just disabled any out installation in Plesk |
| 14:21 |
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gerundio |
since it only gets stored after the 1st update (2nd login) I have a mix set of meaningful and stub password hashes stored in the DB |
| 14:21 |
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koyauni |
well I had configured that library.koyauniversity.org be my main domain and now it is not accessable |
| 14:21 |
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gerundio |
I think I'll just overide the meaningful ones with the stub one too |
| 14:21 |
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koyauni |
I guess the rebuilding of that config has been lost as well |
| 14:22 |
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libsysguy |
my issue was wiht password changes |
| 14:22 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: perhaps you need to run `koha-upgrade-schema library` |
| 14:22 |
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gerundio |
so when a user changed his password he could login with 2 different passwords? |
| 14:23 |
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libsysguy |
for the first time |
| 14:23 |
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libsysguy |
until it gets updated |
| 14:23 |
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gerundio |
btw, the admin user doesn't have any record in the burrowers table, right? |
| 14:23 |
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gerundio |
he just exists on the koha-conf.xml file, correct? |
| 14:23 |
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libsysguy |
correct |
| 14:23 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: however, I would like to point out again the benefits of reading the documentation and learning how the software works, if you intend to run Koha without paying anyone for support. |
| 14:24 |
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gerundio |
so it's safe to preform a blind update on the burrowers table password field, right? |
| 14:24 |
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koyauni |
even my main domain is not reachable http://koyauniversity.org/ but library.koyauniversity.org:8080 works |
| 14:24 |
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koyauni |
do I need to run this maybe /usr/local/psa/admin/sbin/httpdmng --reconfigure-all |
| 14:25 |
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jcamins |
No idea. |
| 14:25 |
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jcamins |
You're using Plack. |
| 14:25 |
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jcamins |
Seems probable. |
| 14:25 |
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jcamins |
However, I can't offer any more help, sorry. |
| 14:25 |
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koyauni |
you guys get paid via card, and we have no banking system in Iraq yet, all have been vanished with war, so people and bank does not work here |
| 14:26 |
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libsysguy |
gerundio well as safe as possibly destroying passwords in the db |
| 14:26 |
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jcamins |
That is unfortunate, but I do not like repeating myself. |
| 14:28 |
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koyauni |
the /usr/local/psa/admin/sbin/httpdmng --reconfigure-all did it and now it is working |
| 14:28 |
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jcamins |
I'm glad to hear that. Write down detailed notes, or save the chat logs, so that you can do this on February 2. |
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koyauni |
sorry, I wish we could hire an admin, but we do not have any, and as someone want to bring new way to education in Uni I have to do it myself the hard way, really sorry to bother you guys, |
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jcamins |
I am happy to answer questions. It's just when I am asked the same thing three times that I get annoyed. I'm sure you can understand why. |
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koyauni |
at least we got latest Koha :) does this has problem with ICU and Zebra for non latin as well ? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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koyauni |
I have now made a file of the instruction and I keep that for next time:) |
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jcamins |
Good. |
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koyauni |
do you have any instruction some where so I get this dump thing so I us eit regularly |
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jcamins |
It is run automatically every night. |
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koyauni |
do I need to set it up |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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jcamins |
It's all automatic. |
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koyauni |
you mean in this version this is a inbuild process |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #966: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/966/ |
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jenkins_koha |
nengard: Bug 8945: Did you mean help file |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8945 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Koha 3.10 Help Files Update |
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drojf |
nobody knows about the wiki confirmation email? |
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tcohen |
libsysguy |
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wahanui |
libsysguy is, like, Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer |
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libsysguy |
si? |
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tcohen |
he |
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tcohen |
i've almost finished my Calendar.t rewrite, using DBD::Mock |
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libsysguy |
sweet |
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tcohen |
including what was on db_dependent/Holidays.t |
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libsysguy |
I've been working on creating Circulation.t |
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tcohen |
oh, you are a step ahead, that was my next step |
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tcohen |
perfect |
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tcohen |
i'm about to create a bug for the new Calendar.t |
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libsysguy |
I may look at your work on calendar |
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tcohen |
if u remember any test we could add, just tell me |
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libsysguy |
oh there are a lot lol |
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libsysguy |
so many tests, so little time |
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tcohen |
another question |
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libsysguy |
k |
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tcohen |
or, the first one i was about to ask: |
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tcohen |
what do u think of that code that exists just for testing like _mockinit, or add_holiday |
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tcohen |
i vote for removal |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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libsysguy |
I would personally agree |
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libsysguy |
but you might want to ask the RM |
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tcohen |
as it was used only on Calendar.t |
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jcamins |
If it has no practical use outside of unit tests, I'd remove it. |
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tcohen |
you mean jcamins? |
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libsysguy |
yup |
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tcohen |
exactly |
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libsysguy |
RM jcamins |
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jcamins |
However, if it would be useful for quickly populating data structures with baseline data, I'd keep it. |
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tcohen |
Koha::Calendar reads what C4::Calendar put on the DB |
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tcohen |
and puts it in its own data structures |
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tcohen |
those methods are for volatile data |
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tcohen |
and mocking makes them useless |
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tcohen |
ok |
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tcohen |
i'll leave Koha/Calendar.pm almost untouched for this bug |
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tcohen |
and create a new one to discuss this removal |
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gerundio |
sometime ago, while setting up my koha instance I changed the Default value of the "a" subfield on tag 100 in the mark framework |
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gerundio |
I then imported a lot of records |
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gerundio |
I was now told that those records have the default koha value for that subfield |
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gerundio |
is there any way to update this for all the records in my catalog? |
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drojf |
sql |
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drojf |
but it is also a way to destroy everything in seconds, so take a backup ;) |
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wahanui |
okay, drojf. |
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jcamins |
No, SQL won't work. |
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drojf |
it won't? |
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jcamins |
Well... |
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jcamins |
it'll change the field. |
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jcamins |
It'll also corrupt all the records. |
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kf |
but not the marcxml and marc... |
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jcamins |
You'll need to write a script to do it. |
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jcamins |
You can use touch_all_biblios.pl as a base. |
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drojf |
ah sorry no, i was not paying enough attention and just remembered how i changed fields in all frameworks. which is something entirely different of course. sorry, ignore me, i'm tired and confused |
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gerundio |
jcamins, is this a standard behavior or should the imported records reflect my change in the 1st place? |
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* drojf |
goes to sit in a corner |
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jcamins |
gerundio: if you set a default, it will be automatically filled in whenever anyone opens a record that doesn't have that field populated. |
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gerundio |
I see that on new records |
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gerundio |
I expected it to happen too on imported ones |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jcamins |
If you set the default value for the framework the imported records will use, it'll get automatically populated when someone opens up those records, too. |
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gerundio |
jcamins, I'm looking at the Manage staged MARC records Batch |
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gerundio |
and the 100 field value is showing the default Koha value |
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gerundio |
a full catalog export, find and replace of the value of the field 100 on a MARC editor and full import could do the trick? |
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jcamins |
Should do, yes. |
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gerundio |
since this is still in pre-production environment maybe it's the best solution for this |
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gerundio |
jcamins, thanks again, you're always a great help :) |
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jcamins |
Depending how many records there are, it might be better to write a script, though. |
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gerundio |
somewhat around 60k records so far |
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jcamins |
Probably it would be faster to script it. |
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vfernandes |
gerundio I've submitted a bug fix for that problem bug 8347 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
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gerundio |
hmmm, vfernandes nice |
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jcamins |
gerundio: oh, if it's the bug that vfernandes reported, I think it is impossible to fix without his patch. |
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gerundio |
because I was just about to say my colleague just told me that he edited one record and the value remained the same |
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gerundio |
so probably it's that bug vfernandes mentioned |
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gerundio |
I'm going to take a look |
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Joubu |
goodbye |
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vfernandes |
resolves two problems: the default language is fre when importing/editing biblio and the default value on the field 100 plugin is also fre... |
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vfernandes |
in koha 3.8.X you can't edit UNIMARC field 100 language |
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vfernandes |
if editing a record to change language to "por" it won't work |
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mib |
i wish to get a multiple branch libraries data into koha through marc records import. when i run stage marc records i am getting only single library data but my mrc file contains multiple branches along with their accession numbers |
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mib |
how to get all these libraries data into single koha installation where each branch has its own accession series |
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drojf |
mib: have you set up the branches in koha and do branch codes in koha and your marc file match? |
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mib |
branches are set up in koha |
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mib |
when i stage records it says 33000 records are staged |
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mib |
but after import it says 10000 records were not added due to duplicate barcodes |
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mib |
but these duplicate barcodes are from each branches |
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mib |
yes branch codes do match in koha and mrc file |
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jcamins |
mib: you can't have duplicate barcodes at all, even if the items are at different branches. |
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mib |
oh what could be the solution then |
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* chris_n |
hates it when he knows more than the tech support at the service provider he is paying good money to >:( |
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chris_n |
maybe I should be paying myself instead |
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rambutan |
and I would add, they are making more money than I am by far... |
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jcamins |
mib: unfortunately I don't think there's really a work-around to make barcodes unique. |
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libsysguy |
mib you could delete all the barcodes but that isn't really a satisfactory solution |
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drojf |
you could use instances instead of branches. but that is probably not what you want |
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libsysguy |
that barcode thing is really a pita |
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mib |
we want to have single installation with multiple branch data uploaded on single server |
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libsysguy |
right, you can do that |
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libsysguy |
you just can't have duplicate barcodes across those branches |
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jcamins |
Did the barcode prefix stuff ever get into Koha? |
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jcamins |
bag would know. |
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mib |
i had one more problem if i attach one alphabet before numeric accession number when i run excel to marc in marcedit marcedit delete alphanumeric numbers from 952 |
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bag |
no it hasn't yet |
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jcamins |
mib: where are the barcodes coming from? |
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mib |
from excel sheet |
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mib |
i am running marcedit to convert excel data |
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jcamins |
Let me rephrase that: are there barcode labels on the books? |
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mib |
no barcoding is actually not yet done |
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mib |
only books are accessioned |
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jcamins |
In that case, you should assign unique barcode ranges to each library. |
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mib |
if i assign in excel sheet before each numeric number any alphabet say A1, B1, C1 will that be imported successfully |
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jcamins |
That should work. |
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jcamins |
It will work fine with Koha. |
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jcamins |
I don't know anything about MarcEdit. |
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* drojf |
heads home |
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mib |
i dont knw any other tool to get data from excel to mrc format |
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jcamins |
I presume it would work fine with MarcEdit. |
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mib |
i have been only using marcedit but apparantly it was not taking alphanumeric numbers while coverting data |
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jcamins |
There's a MarcEdit mailing list where you could ask for help with that particular step. |
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mib |
ok |
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mib |
i will do that |
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jcamins |
However, if you're able to get the data converted by MarcEdit, Koha will handle it just fine. :) |
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mib |
ok tx |
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libsysguy |
anybody have thoughts on using a service like disqus or livefyre as koha's commenting system? |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: none. |
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libsysguy |
heh, it was just a thought |
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libsysguy |
nothing too serious |
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* jcamins |
has never even heard of those things. |
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libsysguy |
they are pretty useful services imo |
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jcamins |
But not open source? |
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libsysguy |
heh no, it'd be the equivalent of the bookjacket stuff |
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jcamins |
Oh, it doesn't require you to incorporate the code? |
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libsysguy |
I don't think it'd be more than a library |
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cait |
h i#koha |
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gerundio |
trick question: is it normal to perform an advanced search for a given title and most of the records that show up in the result set don't even have that word in the title? |
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sophie_m |
hi cait and #koha |
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sophie_m |
cait I have written some comments on Bug 6030 on overdue notices |
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vfernandes |
search on title search in different subfields |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6030 critical, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Needs Signoff , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices |
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sophie_m |
cait and have done some other patches linked to it that are waiting for signoff ;-) |
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vfernandes |
gerundio: in UNIMARC search on title search in many 200 subfields |
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jcamins |
gerundio: yes. |
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gerundio |
I'm looking at the /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/biblios/record.abs file |
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vfernandes |
it also search 4XX and 5XX fields |
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gerundio |
and the indexes for the Title field show a lot of 200 subfields |
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cait |
sophie_m: I will try to take alook , but have to work on something else tonight |
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gerundio |
4xx and 5xx refer to Authoroties titles, right? |
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sophie_m |
thank you cait. And if somone else want to test... |
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vfernandes |
4xx are serial titles I think... |
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vfernandes |
5xx are notes |
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cait |
I think you are talking aobut different things |
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cait |
bibliographic and authority records |
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jcamins |
cait: UNIMARC... crazy, eh? |
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cait |
ah and that too? |
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cait |
yeah |
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libsysguy |
@later tell cindy thanks for getting my retirement stuff cleared up |
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huginn |
libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
wrong chan? |
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libsysguy |
oh yup |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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libsysguy |
just so everybody knows I have a 401k :p |
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cait |
sounds like a good idea |
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tcohen |
jcamins |
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kathryn |
morning all, I thought I was late for the meeting! |
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tcohen |
bug 8486 has been pushed, BUT |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8486 blocker, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Critical error in Koha::Calendar::days_between calculation |
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tcohen |
there's still an open bug noted in the comments |
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tcohen |
i found it in my tests rewrite |
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tcohen |
should I fill a new bug and leave that bug as is? |
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jcamins |
Yes please. |
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vfernandes |
there is any bug open with refine authors display problem? there is a extra comma |
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jcamins |
vfernandes: that does not ring any bells for me. |
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vfernandes |
on the refine search results there is a extra comma... in OPAC and Staff client |
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jcamins |
I'd say file a bug. |
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vfernandes |
ok :) |
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magnuse |
the meeting is in 24 hours - 27 minutes, right? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: sounds right. |
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magnuse |
yay |
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kathryn |
hehe thanks magnuse I've been doing my math! see yas later...whoever at Catalyst told me the meeting was the morning after the staff Christmas party is in trouble! |
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magnuse |
go get 'em kathryn :-) |
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kathryn |
:) magnuse I'll blame it on the new girl |
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kathryn |
(not true) |
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* magnuse |
isn't sure that is a good idea :-) |
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kathryn |
it was probably a team effort ;) |
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kathryn |
apart from everyone else worked out we were wrong! |
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kathryn |
bye for now! |
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tcohen |
jcamins, bug 9209 and bug 9211 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9209 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Mocked Koha::Calendar tests |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9211 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , days_between wrong behaviour |
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tcohen |
the second is a tiny patch, the first the tests rewrite using DBD:Mock |
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tcohen |
libsysguy, i attached the dbd:mock patches |
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libsysguy |
i saw that |
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libsysguy |
kudos tcohen++ |
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magnuse |
kia ora JDatTeTakere |
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cait |
hi JDatTeTakere - in case you are here for the meeting -it's tomorrow : |
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cait |
:) |
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JDatTeTakere |
Morning...ahh...wrong day :-) |
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rangi |
Morning |
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wahanui |
hmmm... Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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magnuse |
has cait become psychic? ;-) |
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magnuse |
morning rangi |
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JDatTeTakere |
I had the meeting in my diary for 5 Dec. |
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cait |
magnuse: who knows... |
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rangi |
Yep it is, but UTC time :) |
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rangi |
We live in the future |
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drojf |
look its those future people again ;) |
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drojf |
heh |
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drojf |
hi rangi |
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JDatTeTakere |
Does that mean I can go back to bed? |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
but hopefully you will be back tomorrow?:) |
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JDatTeTakere |
I will #cait |
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JDatTeTakere |
Drat...not so good at my IRC yet |
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tcohen |
ok, libsysguy, let me know if i can help with more tests |
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tcohen |
leaving right now |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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libsysguy |
later tcohen |
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gml |
hello everyone. |
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gml |
what's the treatment on non-ascii characters in borrowers.password? until now, I know it's not UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1 |
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cait |
gml: what are you triyng to do? |
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cait |
first question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 19:04 |
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gml |
authentication from third-party application using Koha DB |
| 19:04 |
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cait |
you are aware that the password is encrypted in koha? |
| 19:05 |
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gml |
I've succeeded with MD5 and base64, |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
a better way to do things like that is using sip2 |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
for authentication |
| 19:05 |
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rangi |
Or ilsdi |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
yep |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
using an interface, not accessing the database directly |
| 19:05 |
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gml |
but results are not equal when I'm entering non-ascii characters in plaintext password |
| 19:06 |
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rangi |
We will be changing the password hashing in the near future |
| 19:07 |
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rangi |
Direct db access will then need to be redone, but any of the 3 api will still work |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
LDAP and CAS are also things you could look at - depending on what exactly you want to do and integrate |
| 19:10 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (8:00 PM CET on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
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gml |
thanks for the suggestions |
| 19:12 |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (8:00 AM NZDT on December 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
rangi: wish I could come and visit :) |
| 19:13 |
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rangi |
:) |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 4.1°C (8:13 PM CET on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 66046 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Near Lawrence High School, Lawrence, Kansas is 17.0°C (1:14 PM CST on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:17 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0°C (7:50 PM CET on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
jinx! |
| 19:17 |
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magnuse |
@wunder geilo, norway |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Aal Skisenter bunnstasjon, Aal, Norway is -19.8°C (8:16 PM CET on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -26.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:17 |
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magnuse |
@wunder kautokeino |
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druthb |
brr! |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -8.0°C (7:00 PM CET on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:18 |
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* magnuse |
goes to the canary isles in a week and a day... :-) |
| 19:18 |
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druthb |
@wunder iqaluit |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Iqaluit, Nunavut is -22.0°C (2:00 PM EST on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -26.0°C. Windchill: -28.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:20 |
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magnuse |
windchill-- |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: I am confused about SAML support as well. I thought Koha didn't have it, but the newsletter the guy on the mailing list links to would seem to indicate that you've been using SAML for Koha authentication at Catalyst. |
| 19:33 |
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jcamins_away |
Incidentally, windows-- |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
jcamins_away: thats all on the moodle side |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
koha doesnt have it |
| 19:34 |
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jcamins_away |
Ah. That explains it. |
| 19:34 |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks. |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
no worries |
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* jcamins_away |
returns to being vaguely hopeful that he has some idea what's going on around him. |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 19:35 |
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libsysguy |
every time I see the word catalyst I get a little excited then I realize that its where rangi works |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 19:35 |
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libsysguy |
also, I can't have anything related to libraries and catalyst in my google searches |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
and eythian and wizzyrea too now :) |
| 19:35 |
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libsysguy |
thanks... |
| 19:35 |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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rangi |
we had the name first .. cant help it if ppl want to copy :) |
| 19:36 |
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rangi |
there's another company catalyst in teh US doing evergreen stuff now |
| 19:36 |
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rangi |
how's that for confusing |
| 19:36 |
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libsysguy |
yeah there is a lot of name copying now...boo |
| 19:36 |
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libsysguy |
poor google |
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jcamins_away |
If only there was something to disambiguate names. |
| 19:37 |
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jcamins_away |
Something with authority. |
| 19:37 |
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jcamins_away |
Maybe an electronic file. |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
that's crazy talk |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
that could only possibly work if we came up with our own character encryption to store it in |
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jcamins_away |
lol |
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cait |
tcohen++ |
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magnuse |
uris ftw! |
| 19:47 |
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rangi |
uris? |
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magnuse |
URIs |
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rangi |
ahh :) |
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magnuse |
as in linked data ;-) |
| 19:48 |
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* jcamins_away |
thought we were celebrating the author of Exodus and The Haj. |
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rangi |
yup :) |
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magnuse |
leon uris? |
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jcamins_away |
Yes. |
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magnuse |
not this time, at least |
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jcamins_away |
Or, as I might say if there were some sort of file with authoritative information about names: Uris, Leon, 1924-2003. :) |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
GND! |
| 19:50 |
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magnuse |
http://dbpedia.org/resource/Leon_Uris |
| 19:51 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: was that you gnashing your teeth? ;) |
| 19:51 |
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slc0274 |
I would like to ask a question but I am by no means an expert. We are experimenting with KOHA to see if we want to use it for our school library. We have put all of our patrons in and I have imported my records. However no holdings were imported. Is there an easy way to import the holdings all at once? |
| 19:52 |
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jcamins_away |
slc0274: it depends what format your holdings information is in. |
| 19:52 |
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jcamins_away |
Usually it's easiest to import the holdings information with the bib records. |
| 19:52 |
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jcamins_away |
Also, Koha is a name not an acronym. :) |
| 19:52 |
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slc0274 |
The file I imported was a CSV file that I exported from our current library system Winnebago Spectrum |
| 19:53 |
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slc0274 |
I exported everything at once records and holdings |
| 19:53 |
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jcamins_away |
In that case you should import the holdings as item records. It's just a matter of mapping Spectrum holdings information into Koha holdings information. |
| 19:53 |
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jcamins_away |
@marc 952 |
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wahanui |
The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 19:53 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: unknown tag 952 |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins_away |
That page on the wiki lists which subfields are used for what piece of information. |
| 19:54 |
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slc0274 |
so if it didn't automatically do it something is not right on the file I imported |
| 19:55 |
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slc0274 |
or not matching |
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cait |
slc0274: which version of koha are you using? |
| 19:56 |
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slc0274 |
3.8 |
| 19:56 |
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jcamins_away |
Well, Koha doesn't understand Winnebago's format at all, so it's not that there was an error with the file so much as the file didn't have the information in the places it needed to go. |
| 19:56 |
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jcamins_away |
How did you convert your records to MARC? |
| 19:56 |
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slc0274 |
actually I was wrong it was a MARC file not a CSV file |
| 19:56 |
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slc0274 |
the patrons were a CSV file |
| 19:59 |
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jcamins_away |
Right, so you'll need to convert the holdings information that you got out of Winnebago Spectrum into Koha item reccords. |
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slc0274 |
Is there somewhere I can go to find out more about exactly how to do that? |
| 20:00 |
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slc0274 |
I have looked and looked |
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jcamins_away |
Probably Spectrum stuck the information somewhere in the 8xx or 9xx range, and you just have to move it. |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins_away |
You have two options for that sort of thing: MarcEdit, which has a graphical user interface, and command-line scripts. |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins_away |
migration toolbox? |
| 20:00 |
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wahanui |
i guess migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
@marc 952 |
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wahanui |
The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 20:00 |
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huginn |
cait: unknown tag 952 |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins_away |
^^ that's where you would find the best command-line scripts. |
| 20:01 |
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jcamins_away |
At the migration toolbox link, not the holdings data link, which is of course where you find information about how Koha stores holdings data. :) |
| 20:02 |
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slc0274 |
Ok thank you for the information. I will get with my tech people and see if we can get this working. I appreciate the help. |
| 20:04 |
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rangi |
i crack myself up |
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jcamins_away |
lol |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins_away |
What are you discussing? Evergreen's representation in the database? |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
evergreen and koha .. in the turnover report, how its hard to see as its spread over multiple vendor |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
s |
| 20:06 |
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jcamins_away |
Ah. |
| 20:06 |
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jcamins_away |
Has he released a new dataset? |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
its pretty much realtime .. he's just been tweeting it |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]over.pl?Year=2012 |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
as its getting to the end of the year |
| 20:07 |
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jcamins_away |
Cool, I didn't know that. |
| 20:07 |
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rangi |
http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]erse.pl?Year=2012 |
| 20:08 |
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cait |
evergren has some nice numbers |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
yeah they had a big year this year |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
koha had a big one last year |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
and will again next year |
| 20:09 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 20:15 |
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rangi |
not touching that email |
| 20:15 |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
me neither |
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* jcamins_away |
either. |
| 20:22 |
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jcamins_away |
I thought about it, but decided against it. |
| 20:23 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 20:24 |
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jcamins_away |
I see no benefit to be gained from "unfortunately the license prohibits that." |
| 20:25 |
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cait |
hm |
| 20:26 |
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cait |
talking about things we could do.... what about senidng our 3.10 announcement to marshall breeding? |
| 20:26 |
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* cait |
wanders off |
| 20:26 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: nengard volunteered to do that. |
| 20:26 |
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cait |
ah good! |
| 20:26 |
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jcamins_away |
I'm not sure if she has yet. I don't really follow librarytechnology.org. |
| 20:27 |
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cait |
I think it wuld have showed up on twitter |
| 20:27 |
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cait |
brb |
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* chris_n |
either |
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drojf |
jcamins_away: you know what i am going to say |
| 20:32 |
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* jcamins_away |
does. |
| 20:32 |
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drojf |
we should include google MAPS also! |
| 20:33 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh. |
| 20:33 |
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jcamins_away |
I thought you were going to say "he should ask that on a Google group." |
| 20:33 |
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drojf |
ha1 a twist :D |
| 20:33 |
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drojf |
ha! even |
| 20:34 |
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drojf |
nobody expects the google inquisition |
| 20:37 |
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cait |
lol |
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rambutan |
I hadn't been aware until now that NH had such an apparently large <independent?> Koha dev effort. (Trying to use enough vague qualifiers in my statement) |
| 20:39 |
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wizzyrea |
rambutan: they are waldo, the people who spawned LLEK |
| 20:40 |
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rambutan |
yea. Apparently they are sill on LLEK? |
| 20:40 |
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wizzyrea |
yep. |
| 20:40 |
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wizzyrea |
also they apparently want to be apple. |
| 20:40 |
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rambutan |
things that make you go "hummm" |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: in NH? I always thought WALDO was based in Westchester. |
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wizzyrea |
waldo is huuuge |
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wizzyrea |
many institutions |
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jcamins_away |
(hence the "Westchester" in the name |
| 20:41 |
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wizzyrea |
NH is just one |
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jcamins_away |
) |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins_away |
Ohh. |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins_away |
Right. |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins_away |
I thought you were talking about the state. |
| 20:41 |
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wizzyrea |
nah |
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cait |
wizzyrea: apple? |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
that site from the email |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
it looks like an apple website |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
oh ok |
| 20:42 |
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wizzyrea |
using apple fonts etc. |
| 20:42 |
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rambutan |
I'm guessing this organization is probably a main life-support contributor for LLEK? Sine qua non? |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
they put a lot of money towards it I think |
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* jcamins_away |
had an intern who worked in the library there. |
| 20:46 |
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cait |
and? |
| 20:46 |
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wahanui |
and is that patch only for "$" or for "$ CAD" ? |
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jcamins_away |
She was very pleasant. |
| 20:48 |
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jcamins_away |
A hard worker, though much less experienced than my other interns. |
| 20:49 |
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rambutan |
per ibrarytechnology stats: EG took a big a* bite out of Millennium last year. |
| 20:49 |
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jcamins_away |
rambutan: I noticed that. I figure it must've been a consortium. |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
jcamins_away: oh, I wondered if she said somehting about both ILS in comparison :) |
| 20:50 |
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jcamins_away |
Not really. |
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mveron |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi mveron |
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cait |
hi mveron |
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rambutan |
same for Polaris taking market share from Unicorn/Dynix/Horizon |
| 20:51 |
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mveron |
hi drojf, how was your Koha party? |
| 20:51 |
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mveron |
and hi cait |
| 20:52 |
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drojf |
mveron: good! about 12 kohas installed. everybody that stayed managed to install. two librarians run off after half an hour though :/ |
| 20:52 |
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jcamins_away |
mveron: I was talking about getting a food sealer the other day. I thought about you. :) |
| 20:52 |
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drojf |
s/run/ran |
| 20:52 |
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jcamins_away |
We're not going to, I was just talking about it. |
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mveron |
jcamins_away: for the dishwasher? great! |
| 20:53 |
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jcamins_away |
mveron: yeah, the vacuum packer machines. :) |
| 20:53 |
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mveron |
I did not yet try with the vacuum - but i plan to do so with some veal. |
| 20:54 |
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mveron |
Swiss media about Open Source: www.netzwoche.ch/de-CH/News/2012/12/04 (in German) |
| 20:54 |
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cait |
hm site not found :( |
| 20:55 |
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mveron |
Sorry, try this: |
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mveron |
http://www.netzwoche.ch/de-CH/[…]ei-betreiben.aspx |
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drojf |
http://www.netzwoche.ch/de-CH/[…]ei-betreiben.aspx |
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mveron |
drojf + |
| 20:57 |
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rangi |
can i get a paraphrase? |
| 20:58 |
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cait |
hmmmm |
| 20:58 |
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cait |
I am going to try and embarass myself |
| 20:58 |
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cait |
the open source principle |
| 20:58 |
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cait |
cooperation and sharing instead of secretiveness |
| 20:59 |
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cait |
that's the headline anyway |
| 20:59 |
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rambutan |
translate.google.com -- even preserves the page formatting |
| 21:00 |
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cait |
the article is long |
| 21:01 |
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rambutan |
rangi: I have my tech installing deb on a Sun Fire V240 for a test run. It was happily running Solaris, but thought you might prefer deb or something. |
| 21:01 |
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rambutan |
Still haven't asked for permission though. :) |
| 21:01 |
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rangi |
rambutan: deb would make my life easier yes :) |
| 21:01 |
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rambutan |
oh, you'd love Solaris! |
| 21:02 |
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rangi |
open solaris, if it still existed maybe :-) |
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eythian |
hi |
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rambutan |
hi eythian |
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drojf |
meh. 'i should install limesurvey to let people evaluate my workshop … let's see how to install it … cool, it works on my webspace … that wasn't complicated at all, what now … oh no, i'm too lazy to think about questions, maybe i find another survey tool to install …' |
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