IRC log for #koha, 2012-11-22

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00:01 * tcohen_home still thinks what to do with the inconsistency between languages regarding sample SQL data
00:03 tcohen_home it-IT and fr-FR don't have sample branches
00:03 tcohen_home the russian derivatives have, but different branch ids
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03:25 wajasu shoot i tried to select nozebra to maybe get link_bibs_to_authorities to work, but alas only zebra or solr for master.
03:27 wajasu that script is useless for generating auth records.  since for each auth record it creates, the zebra index hasn't been rebuilt, so it creates another because there are never any matches.
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05:20 Oak Ahoy me hearties
05:20 Oak magnuse
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06:23 cait good morning #koha
06:23 cjh good... evening :)
06:23 cait hi cjh
06:23 cait still at work?
06:24 cjh no, at home about to make dinner.
06:24 cait ah good :)
06:24 cjh although I didnt go to work today, instead I was at THATcamp learning about linked data :)
06:24 cait oh cool
06:25 cjh is your 'holiday' still going, or did I miss it's finish?
06:25 cait ah it's over
06:26 cait it was 'only' 3 weeks
06:26 cait getting ready for work
06:26 cait back the second week now
06:27 cjh oh awesome, hope you have an awesome day at work :)
06:27 cjh heh only 3 weeks :p
06:33 cait hope it will good, updating libraries today
06:36 cait 3 weeks can feel pretty short :)
07:08 rangi evening
07:11 Oak cait :)
07:11 Oak oh look druthb is here
07:11 wahanui i already had it that way, Oak.
07:12 druthb oh, lookie!  There's Oak!
07:12 cait hi oak
07:12 druthb wahanui: druthb?
07:12 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
07:12 Oak :)
07:12 cait and go to bed druthb :)
07:12 druthb :P
07:12 Oak ah yes seriously... it may be like 2am-ish there
07:12 Oak night owl
07:13 druthb 01:12.
07:13 Oak hmm. i'll send someone to cut your electricity now
07:13 Oak you leave us no choice
07:13 * magnuse perks up at the mention of linked data
07:14 magnuse @arewethereyet
07:14 huginn magnuse: YES!
07:14 magnuse w00t!
07:14 druthb @eightball will Oak manage to drop my power?
07:14 huginn druthb: One would be wise to think so.
07:14 * druthb gives huginn the ebil eye
07:15 Oak :-)
07:27 * druthb wanders off to bed.
07:28 rangi hmm i have 3.8.7 all ready to go
07:28 rangi i wonder when paul is planning for 3.10.0
07:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #230 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:30 magnuse rangi: get it out there, i'd say :-)
07:30 rangi yeah probably better to do it first
07:31 rangi so that 3.10.0 is given the last word (for a month or so)
07:33 magnuse yup
07:37 rangi there we go
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07:40 magnuse rangi++
07:41 Oak rangi++
07:41 Oak \o/
07:43 alex_a bonjour
07:43 wahanui niihau, alex_a
07:45 rangi hi alex_a
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07:49 reiveune hello
07:51 alex_a hello rangi !
07:55 rangi right fixed awstats too, so will get better stats of downloads
07:56 magnuse nice
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08:02 gaetan_B hello
08:03 rangi hi gaetan_B
08:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #230: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/230/
08:07 jenkins_koha * f.demians: 3.8.7 Translation Update
08:07 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Release notes and bumping version for release
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08:19 marcelr hi #koha
08:20 paul_p good morning everybody
08:21 marcelr hi paul_p
08:21 rangi hi paul_p and marcelr
08:21 marcelr hi rangi
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09:03 kf good morning #koha
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09:25 magnuse kia ora kf
09:26 marcelr hi kf & magnuse
09:27 magnuse hiya marcelr
09:27 magnuse hiya Irma, if you are really here ;-)
09:31 kf hi magnuse and marcelr
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10:01 vfernandes hi guys
10:01 vfernandes i've detected a bug (in my opinion) on modifying biblio
10:02 vfernandes for example if I have a 606$a filled and a 606$6 filled when the field is expanded, the subfields aren't ordered
10:04 vfernandes I think that the subfields should be always ordered, because it affects the way that the record it's present using XSLT
10:05 vfernandes and even in the normal design
10:05 kf vfernandes: I am not sure about this
10:05 kf there is abug about ordering/reordering subfields somewhere in bugzilla I think
10:06 kf I think always ordering would not be right as changing the order seems to be a feature
10:06 vfernandes maybe[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8976
10:06 huginn Bug 8976: enhancement, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Sequence of subfield in Editor
10:07 vfernandes I think ordering is necessary... 2 clients need this done :/
10:08 vfernandes the bug isn't that...
10:15 vfernandes the problem is more important when you clone a field
10:20 magnuse bug 7882
10:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7882 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Failed QA , move or reorder 6xx and 7xx fields
10:20 wajasu doesn't anyone auto generate authorites? it seems like it might have worked with 'NoZebra' at one point,   but now it generates a new authority record for each biblio's heading since the authority search won't ever find a newly created auth until its indexed (5 min).
10:22 vfernandes magnuse that's not my problem... my problem is with subfields order
10:24 wajasu so if i catalog multiple books by 'Calvin, Jean', I get duplicate authority records generated, unless I wait 5 minutes for zebra to index.
10:25 magnuse vfernandes: ah, ok
10:25 vfernandes magnuse
10:25 vfernandes they can always use the move up button
10:25 wajasu and since you can have multipl heading per biblio, you can get mulitple auth records.
10:26 vfernandes i'll tell them to use the move up button... I think it works fine
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10:44 newa34 hello
11:01 magnuse hello newa34
11:03 newa34 i am still having trouble with fine charge ...
11:03 newa34 :(
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11:05 newa34 installed 3.08.07  ..configured all the settings and tried to generated fine ...its ok perfectly... but i have older version of koha 3.04.04 and i need to transfer all the issues and accountlines to newer version
11:07 newa34 when i manually export/import the database of accountlines tables on new version and run the script it addup the amount again
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11:18 wajasu i am not sure, but i can faintly recall that there might have been a field holding a timestamp that is now to the minute, and maybe its a duplicate row. someone else might know.
11:22 newa34 rangi gave some idea last time...misc_maintenance_fix_acc​ but i dnt know how to get it use.
11:22 newa34 file
11:24 mtj newa34, the fix for your problem (bug 8253) was included in koha 3.8.7
11:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8253 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , fix fine doubling, when upgrading from 3.6 to 3.8 (or later)
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11:37 wajasu new34a: you are going to have to run the script from the command line.  be sure to set your KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB environment variables accordingly. and repeatedly run the until it doesn't find any dups.
11:40 newa34 thank u all..i was doing in wrong way ....i got it now
11:40 newa34 thanx all
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12:06 y1s4d3 hiiiiiii
12:07 y1s4d3 any one help me......?
12:11 wajasu just ask.
12:24 kf tcohen: around?
12:29 nanu how can i use my self modified marc in the koha to marc mapping
12:32 nanu ?
12:34 kf nanu: what do you want to do?
12:36 * Oak offers kf cookies
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12:36 nanu mhm
12:37 * Oak puts cookies back in the closet
12:41 nanu how can i use my own marc framework for the koha to marc mapping?
12:42 nanu or in which file can i change the marc-framework used there?
12:43 nanu or database table?
12:46 kf oh i missed the cookies
12:46 kf nanu: you shouldn't change the marc mappings
12:46 kf not light heartedly
12:46 kf there is lots of functionality tied to them, so it's dangerous
12:46 kf first question?
12:46 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
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12:47 tcohen morning #koha
12:47 tcohen kf, ping
12:50 tcohen kf,khall, i recreated patch for bug 9074, removing sample holidays for languages that don't have the MPL branch in the sample data
12:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9074 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , DB dependent tests for is_holiday
12:52 nanu @kf but the main university in austria is using other mappings
12:52 huginn nanu: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
13:04 gaetan_B nanu: there are two ways to change the koha to marc mappings, either on the framework itself in the added constraint of your subfield, or in administration under koha to MARC mappings. My suggestion would be, never use the first option and always use the dedicated tool to do this
13:04 gaetan_B so that you will modify the mapping everywhere and not just on one framework
13:05 gaetan_B but as kf said, don't do this lightheartedly, it's a decision you should have carefully thougth through before you proceed
13:05 gaetan_B you probably want to do it when your database is empty actually
13:05 gaetan_B i've never done it on a system that already had bibliographic records
13:06 gaetan_B now, where are my cookies? :p
13:07 nanu okey
13:07 nanu i got
13:07 nanu iit
13:07 nanu I am using an now empty database
13:08 nanu i dont know why the university of vienna is using another mapping
13:09 nanu it is at the moment also a game to understand koha
13:09 nanu and one more question
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13:10 nanu how can i use ÜÖÄ in the titles of the books and not a�
13:11 gaetan_B this probably depends on the machine you are using
13:11 gaetan_B where did the record with those characters came from ?
13:11 gaetan_B it should be fine normally
13:13 gaetan_B sometimes when you import records via z39.50 or via the import tool, you'll get this problem because you selected the wrong encoding. Ask you provider which encoding the files are in, and make sure the parameteres are right for the z39.50 server you are querying or the import you are doing.
13:22 kf sorry - back
13:23 kf tcohen: I wondered because the patch still included de-DE
13:24 kf nanu: you sepak german? :)
13:24 tcohen kf: bracause the MPL branch is there, in the sample_libreries.sqk
13:24 tcohen s/sqk/sql/
13:25 kf kf: in sample libraries yes - but not in the other holiday data - so I got confused what you meatn
13:25 nanu kf yes
13:25 nanu that with the umlaute
13:25 nanu is no working to
13:26 kf nanu: are you usig mibbit?
13:26 kf I hve opened a private chat with you in german :)
13:26 kf and tcohen:  in sample libraries yes - but not in the other holiday data - so I got confused what you meatn
13:27 tcohen kf: i sent an email to the koha-dev list regarding this, i'm not sure how to deal with this
13:28 tcohen we might need to fill a new bug for removing those branch-less holiday definitions
13:28 tcohen and an updatedatabase script that fixes that for working libraries
13:29 tcohen i'm not sure when was the 'all libraries'/empty holiday definition removed
13:30 kf tcohen: I don't know it :(
13:30 kf tcohen: it's the calandar mess all over again
13:30 kf tcohen: would it be possible that your test adds the data to the database?
13:30 kf and removes it after running the test? or mock it?
13:31 tcohen i'll wait for those responses on the list
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13:31 tcohen after working in this patch i belive we might need to have a test data set for testing purposes
13:32 tcohen if my first question is answered 'yes'
13:32 oleonard On this machine the MARC view in the staff client seems to be broken in master and 3.8.x. Can anyone confirm?
13:34 oleonard I get a blank page.
13:36 tcohen kf: bug 9133
13:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9133 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , We need a data set for db dependent tests
13:38 kf tcohen: I agree about test data - I only wonder if the web installer files are the right palce
13:38 tcohen i agree
13:40 tcohen right now, they were being used as sample data for the tests
13:41 tcohen (MPL branch is used in several places)
13:44 nanu one more question
13:45 nanu i have sucessfully added an item but in the search i cant find the book
13:45 nanu the 2 testlinks
13:45 nanu http://nuss.buch.diemultiversi[…]pl?biblionumber=4
13:45 nanu http://nuss.buch.diemultiversi[…]sort_by=relevance
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13:54 drojf hi #koha
13:55 kf search faq?
13:55 wahanui search faq is
13:55 kf nanu: vermutlich ist zebra nicht richtig eingerichtet
13:55 drojf deutsch? bin ich falsch abgebogen?
13:56 kf hi drojf
13:56 drojf hi kf
13:56 jcamins_away wajasu: BibLibre had an authority generator script at some point, but I don't think it was ever updated to work with Zebra.
13:57 nanu i like you
13:57 nanu everything is so nice
13:57 nanu thank you
13:57 nanu thank you
13:59 * drojf accidentally the whole pack of cookies
13:59 jcamins_away Happy Thanksgiving.
14:00 kf drojf: you ate all the cookies?
14:00 jcamins_away vfernandes: the MARC editor is awful, and doesn't handle subfield order, but unfortunatley there's no way to fix it.
14:00 kf drojf: nanu is from austria
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14:03 jcamins_away oleonard: Happy Thanksgiving, go spend time with your family. :P
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14:04 jcamins_away oleonard: and MARC view works fine for me.
14:05 * mveron has a minute between two meetings to share the following:  Hmm, we should implement Biblio-Mat in Koha  :-)
14:05 oleonard Thanks jcamins_away, it works fine in the ByWater demo too. I guess something is messed up in this installation
14:05 oleonard And my family doesn't arrive until Saturday, so I'm doing whatever I want :P
14:06 * oleonard is pondering whether going to the grocery store on Thanksgiving morning is a crazy idea
14:07 jcamins_away oleonard: probably.
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14:13 kf z39.50?
14:13 wahanui z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast.
14:13 kf irspy?
14:13 wahanui well, irspy is a good source for identifying Z39.50 targets. See
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14:28 jcamins_away paul_p_: I pushed the two blockers to master.
14:29 paul_p_ jcamins_away = I have to QA another one -bug 9078 - will you be around in a few minuts/hours ?
14:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9078 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , is_holiday should honour holiday exceptions
14:29 jcamins_away Minutes, maybe.
14:29 jcamins_away Hours, almost certainly not.
14:29 paul_p_ OK, will QA NOW then !
14:29 jcamins_away Thanks.
14:33 paul_p_ jcamins_away = bug 9078 passed QA
14:33 jcamins_away Okay, I'll take a look.
14:34 jcamins_away paul_p_: has it been reported to you that there seems to be a problem with the mailing lists?
14:34 paul_p_ jcamins_away = nope. what kind of problem?
14:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8800' into 3.12-master <[…]e93911316714e3d68> / Bug 8800 - useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour (revisited) <[…]02e5ec8580bc188d6> / Bug 9064: Increment version number <[…]tdiff;h=64b9bc74b
14:36 jcamins_away paul_p_: I'm not getting any e-mail.
14:36 paul_p_ is it just you ? from all mailing lists (koha-devel / koha-translate / ...) ? have you checked you've subscribed ?
14:37 jcamins_away koha-bugs and koha-commits.
14:37 jcamins_away Both stopped sending e-mail yesterday.
14:38 jcamins_away Okay, and 9106 passed QA.
14:39 paul_p_ yikes ! you're right... OK, will send a mail to our sysop immediately
14:41 jcamins_away Where is the uncertain orders page?
14:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #948 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:44 kf jcamins_away: the due date blocker bug will not work without this patch
14:45 jcamins_away What patch?
14:45 wahanui patch is pretty old now, good luck
14:45 kf jcamins_away: the patch paul qa'd - sorry I forgot to note more explicitly that I tested them together
14:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9078 - fixing exceptions broke tests <[…]04b648aa4592f3f79> / Bug 9078 - is_holiday should honour holiday exceptions <[…]4aec2dd423650a4f5>
14:45 jcamins_away kf: I pushed both.
14:45 kf 9078 - it's hidden in the comments
14:45 kf ah great
14:45 kf thx
14:45 jcamins_away It's 9106 that I can't figure out.
14:45 tcohen jcamins_away++ and paul_p++!
14:45 kf bug 9106
14:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9106 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Filtering list of uncertain price list by owner empties order information
14:46 kf jcamins_away: create an order
14:46 jcamins_away Okay.
14:46 kf check the 'uncertain price' checkbox
14:46 kf go to the vendor
14:46 kf in the last pulldown I think is the uncertain prices page
14:46 jcamins_away Ah-ha.
14:46 jcamins_away Thanks.
14:46 kf hm I think it's also on the basket summary page on top - you can't close a basket as long as you have uncertain prices
14:46 jcamins_away I see, yeah.
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14:49 paul_p_ thx jcamins_away !
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15:00 * jcamins_away leaves again
15:00 jcamins_away Happy Thanksgiving!
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15:07 wajasu ok 9049 signed-off
15:09 wajasu bug 9049 is a no-brainer for qa
15:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9049 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra should not use shadow when called with -r
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15:29 hdl_mibbit hi
15:29 hdl_mibbit jcamins_away: fwiw, i searched koha-bugs and koha-commits logs.
15:30 hdl_mibbit The latest messages I found were received yesterday
15:30 hdl_mibbit So...
15:30 hdl_mibbit maybe there is a DNS issue with koha-bugs and koha-commits.
15:31 hdl_mibbit hope that helps.
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15:37 hdl_mibbit see you.
15:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #948: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/948/
15:52 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9064: fix statistics.ccode column
15:52 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9064: Increment version number
15:52 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8800 - useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour (revisited)
15:52 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 9078 - is_holiday should honour holiday exceptions
15:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9064 blocker, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , statistics.ccode specified inconsistently
15:52 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 9078 - fixing exceptions broke tests
15:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8800 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour
15:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9078 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , is_holiday should honour holiday exceptions
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16:03 reiveune bye
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17:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #14 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:41 tcohen is there still a problem with the mailing lists?
18:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #14: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/14/
18:10 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8844: creates a modification log
18:10 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9070: [SIGNED-OFF] authority searches in auth_finder error out
18:10 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 9017 - Quote of the day: Table footer not translated
18:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8844 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , creates a modification log
18:10 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Adding sample patron attributes to German web installer
18:10 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 9024: Add missing sample data to existing files
18:10 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 9024: Fix typo
18:10 jenkins_koha * mathieu.saby: Bug 8954: Make languages list in advanced search translatable (revision 1)
18:10 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9064: fix statistics.ccode column
18:10 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9064: Increment version number
18:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9070 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Searching for authority from tag editor for field 650 gives error
18:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9017 normal, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Quote of the day: Table footer not translated
18:10 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 8800 - useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour (revisited)
18:10 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 9078 - is_holiday should honour holiday exceptions
18:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add additional sample data to German installer
18:10 jenkins_koha * tomascohen: Bug 9078 - fixing exceptions broke tests
18:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8954 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Languages list in advanced search always in english
18:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9064 blocker, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , statistics.ccode specified inconsistently
18:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8800 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , SpecifyDueDate && useDaysMode=Datedue wrong behaviour
18:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9078 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , is_holiday should honour holiday exceptions
18:35 gaetan_B bye
18:42 tcohen guys, where r u? this is soooo silent
18:51 magnuse it is - eerily silent...
19:00 jcamins_away magnuse: it's Thanksgiving! We're giving thanks!
19:04 magnuse ah, of course!
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22:19 * cait waves
23:07 nanu a little question
23:08 nanu is it possible to import latex in cataloging?
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23:16 drojf nanu: import latex?
23:17 nanu .
23:17 drojf nanu: you mean tex files?
23:17 drojf or bibtex? or what?
23:20 drojf @arewethereyet
23:20 huginn drojf: YES!
23:23 drojf good night #koha
23:43 nanu tex or bibtex
23:44 jcamins_away nanu, not directly, no.
23:45 nanu so i have to add them manualy to the database?
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23:45 jcamins_away You might be able to convert bibtex to marc.
23:45 jcamins_away I don't know.
23:47 jcamins_away But I have to go carve a duck now, so I can't look for a program to do that right now.
23:50 nanu i go to the land dreams
23:50 nanu will continue tomorrow
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