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LaLuz joined #koha |
| 00:54 |
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LaLuz |
hi |
| 00:54 |
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wahanui |
hello, LaLuz |
| 00:55 |
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LaLuz |
i am trying to install koha on my mac locally |
| 00:56 |
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LaLuz |
wahanui, hi |
| 00:56 |
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wahanui |
hola, LaLuz |
| 00:57 |
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LaLuz |
wahanui, are you a bot |
| 00:57 |
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wahanui |
OK, LaLuz. |
| 00:57 |
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jcamins |
LaLuz: wahanui is, yes. |
| 00:57 |
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LaLuz |
ok |
| 00:57 |
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jcamins |
LaLuz: I have never heard of anyone installing Koha on OSX. |
| 00:57 |
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jcamins |
I recommend using Debian or Ubuntu in a VirtualBox VM. |
| 00:57 |
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LaLuz |
according to the readme its possible |
| 00:57 |
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jcamins |
Really? |
| 00:57 |
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LaLuz |
read the read me |
| 00:58 |
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LaLuz |
or the INSTALL |
| 00:58 |
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wahanui |
the install is done yet |
| 00:58 |
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jcamins |
Well, no one has done it in three years. |
| 00:58 |
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LaLuz |
so i am going to be the first |
| 00:58 |
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jcamins |
I think so. :) |
| 00:58 |
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jcamins |
Well- I suppose there's a slight chance it's so easy that people have done it without encountering a single problem. |
| 00:58 |
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jcamins |
But that seems unlikely. |
| 00:59 |
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jcamins |
What version of Koha are you installing? |
| 01:01 |
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LaLuz |
git |
| 01:01 |
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jcamins |
So the latest master, 3.9 (soon to be 3.10)? |
| 01:01 |
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LaLuz |
yah |
| 01:01 |
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LaLuz |
i just cloned it 20 minutes ago |
| 01:01 |
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jcamins |
Good... I was concerned you might be trying to install Koha 2.0. |
| 01:02 |
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LaLuz |
are you a dev |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins |
Yes. I'm the Release Manager for 3.12. |
| 01:04 |
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jcamins |
I see no mention of Macs in the INSTALL or README files. |
| 01:05 |
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jcamins |
(if you're comfortable doing development on a Mac I would suppose it'd probably be possible to compile everything from source, but I certainly wouldn't know how to do it) |
| 01:06 |
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LaLuz |
and I quote Koha runs on many Un*x style systems, including a variety of Linux distributions and Mac OS X |
| 01:06 |
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jcamins |
Where did you clone the repository from? |
| 01:07 |
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LaLuz |
https://github.com/liblime/Lib[…]blob/4_12/INSTALL |
| 01:07 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 01:07 |
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jcamins |
There's your problem. |
| 01:07 |
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jcamins |
That's not Koha. |
| 01:07 |
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jcamins |
That's LibLime's proprietary fork. |
| 01:07 |
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LaLuz |
so where do i find koha |
| 01:07 |
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jcamins |
I highly doubt it works on Macs, either, and there's no support for it. |
| 01:07 |
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jcamins |
koha-community.org |
| 01:07 |
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wahanui |
i think koha-community.org is actually updated and right |
| 01:07 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: thanks... |
| 01:07 |
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wahanui |
my pleasure jcamins |
| 01:08 |
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jcamins |
You can clone from git.koha-community.org |
| 01:08 |
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LaLuz |
i was testing both builds of evergreen and koha |
| 01:09 |
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jcamins |
LibLime's proprietary fork is much less actively developed than Koha. |
| 01:09 |
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LaLuz |
give me the git link |
| 01:09 |
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jcamins |
You'll have a much more fair comparison between open source Koha and Evergreen, not to mention some hope of free help from this channel. :) |
| 01:09 |
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jcamins |
git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git |
| 01:09 |
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jcamins |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=summary <-- gitweb |
| 01:10 |
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LaLuz |
cloniong now |
| 01:11 |
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LaLuz |
how does koha work in a multi branch system |
| 01:12 |
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jcamins |
The way you would expect, I think. Each library can have separate circ rules, you can transfer books between branches, etc. |
| 01:13 |
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LaLuz |
i know u are a koha dev |
| 01:13 |
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LaLuz |
but how does it compare to evergreen if you dont mind me asking |
| 01:13 |
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jcamins |
I prefer Koha. |
| 01:13 |
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LaLuz |
evergreen was a bitch and a have to setup |
| 01:13 |
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jcamins |
For two reasons: |
| 01:13 |
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LaLuz |
excuse my language |
| 01:13 |
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wahanui |
LaLuz: runaway cat on system. |
| 01:13 |
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jcamins |
1) installing Evergreen made me want to kill myself. |
| 01:13 |
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jcamins |
2) searches can get painfully slow |
| 01:14 |
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LaLuz |
yah |
| 01:14 |
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LaLuz |
if you make 1 small typo somewhere you are screwed |
| 01:14 |
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LaLuz |
and you have to start the server from scratch |
| 01:14 |
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jcamins |
Due to the database, not their search syntax. I'm actually in the process of porting the Evergreen QueryParser to Koha. |
| 01:15 |
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LaLuz |
all the libraries here uses koha |
| 01:15 |
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jcamins |
Where are you located? |
| 01:15 |
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LaLuz |
el salvador |
| 01:15 |
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LaLuz |
well not all |
| 01:15 |
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jcamins |
Oh, another reason I like Koha better: the community is larger, and more geographically diverse. |
| 01:15 |
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LaLuz |
some |
| 01:16 |
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jcamins |
Which means when you have a question at an odd time you have a reasonable chance of someone being around to answer it. |
| 01:16 |
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LaLuz |
odd imes |
| 01:16 |
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LaLuz |
are my specially |
| 01:17 |
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jcamins |
Mine too, as you probably gathered from the fact that it's Friday night and I was around to answer your question. |
| 01:17 |
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LaLuz |
yah |
| 01:18 |
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LaLuz |
since i moved out here |
| 01:18 |
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LaLuz |
time does not make sense to me anymore |
| 01:20 |
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LaLuz |
they want me to intergrate all the branches |
| 01:20 |
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jcamins |
How many are there? |
| 01:20 |
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LaLuz |
so far we have 10 |
| 01:20 |
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LaLuz |
but we are goignt to get 13 more |
| 01:21 |
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LaLuz |
not including the government library which soon i will get access too |
| 01:21 |
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jcamins |
What ILS are they using now? |
| 01:21 |
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LaLuz |
apparently koha |
| 01:22 |
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LaLuz |
but it came to a shock to me that they told me that koha was not free software |
| 01:22 |
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jcamins |
_Koha_ is free software. |
| 01:22 |
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jcamins |
"LibLime Koha" is not. |
| 01:23 |
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LaLuz |
i know which means someone is charging them a hefty fine |
| 01:23 |
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LaLuz |
*fee |
| 01:23 |
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jcamins |
Well, if they want support, that does cost money. |
| 01:24 |
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jcamins |
My company provides hosting and support for Koha, and we're not cheap. |
| 01:24 |
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LaLuz |
whats your company |
| 01:24 |
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jcamins |
C & P Bibliography Services. |
| 01:24 |
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LaLuz |
im going to get a vps for koha |
| 01:24 |
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LaLuz |
right now |
| 01:24 |
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wahanui |
right now is testing just somebody seeing if it works? |
| 01:25 |
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jcamins |
That's the easiest thing to do. |
| 01:25 |
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LaLuz |
it would take me 20 minute to get the sever brb |
| 01:28 |
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LaLuz |
i found a really good vps deal |
| 01:29 |
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jcamins |
Oh, that's another thing I like about Koha compared to Evergreen: I can run a decent-sized Koha installation with 1GB of RAM. |
| 01:30 |
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LaLuz |
evergreen requires minimum 2gbn |
| 01:30 |
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LaLuz |
some people are running production servers with 128 |
| 01:30 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
| 01:31 |
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LaLuz |
in third world countries they never even heard of 128 |
| 01:31 |
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jcamins |
The more RAM you give Koha the better, of course, but it's not absolutely mandatory to have 2GB for just a few thousand records. |
| 01:32 |
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LaLuz |
what about if you are getting somewhere in the half million |
| 01:33 |
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jcamins |
If you're seeing significant usage, I'd want two 8GB servers: one for MySQL, one for Apache. |
| 01:34 |
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jcamins |
Well, I'd always *want* 192GB of RAM, but I wouldn't really have a use for it. I just think it'd be cool. ;) |
| 01:34 |
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LaLuz |
well when i take control over the central library system here for the country |
| 01:35 |
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LaLuz |
can you believe they are still using pen and paper |
| 01:35 |
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jcamins |
Yikes! |
| 01:36 |
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LaLuz |
and the old cards |
| 01:36 |
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LaLuz |
yah computer systems do not exist around here much |
| 01:37 |
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LaLuz |
has anyone hit 256gb of ram |
| 01:37 |
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jcamins |
With Koha? |
| 01:37 |
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jcamins |
Not that I know of. |
| 01:37 |
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LaLuz |
i know people are building clusters with 1tb |
| 01:37 |
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jcamins |
There are fairly large consortia using 32GB RAM, total. |
| 01:37 |
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LaLuz |
just becaus they want to convert a movine 10 minutes |
| 01:38 |
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LaLuz |
*seconds |
| 01:38 |
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LaLuz |
i sent a email to the hosting company |
| 01:38 |
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LaLuz |
hopefully i can get my same setup |
| 01:42 |
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LaLuz |
i have yet to see there setup |
| 01:42 |
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LaLuz |
is there a way to convert liblime to koha |
| 01:43 |
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jcamins |
Basically you just have to do a migration, the same as you would from any other ILS. |
| 01:43 |
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jcamins |
A friend of mine who works at ByWater Solutions has done dozens. |
| 01:45 |
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LaLuz |
sorry if i asking 1000 million questions |
| 01:48 |
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jcamins |
No problem. We like curious people on #koha. :) |
| 01:49 |
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LaLuz |
just waiting for a response |
| 01:49 |
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LaLuz |
from the hosting company |
| 02:05 |
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LaLuz |
This is going no where |
| 02:05 |
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LaLuz |
im going tobed |
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jcamins |
Have a good night. |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
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cait |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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mascha |
hi there, just installed koha 3.8 can I switch off the field 942 subfield c? |
| 12:52 |
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mascha |
I mean there is a mandatory field can I uncheck it? |
| 12:55 |
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jcamins_away |
mascha: you can edit your framework to not make it mandatory. |
| 13:01 |
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mascha |
thx, got a search result with z39.50 and want to put it in the database but there is Koha [default] item type to be set ???? |
| 13:02 |
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mascha |
no idea what it could be |
| 13:12 |
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jcamins_away |
You can set it to whatever you like. |
| 13:12 |
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jcamins_away |
You have to configure your item types. |
| 13:23 |
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mascha |
mmmmhhhh... it works. But what means OSt in Marc-field 003? |
| 13:24 |
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mascha |
oh, oh... it's a long way to become a librarian |
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francharb |
hi |
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jcamins_away |
francharb: shouldn't you be off today? |
| 13:52 |
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francharb |
jcamins_away, I should but I have things to be done quickly so... |
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francharb |
here I am |
| 13:52 |
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francharb |
:) |
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francharb |
what about you jcamins_away ? |
| 13:53 |
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francharb |
what's your excuse? |
| 13:53 |
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francharb |
your nick says "away" |
| 13:53 |
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francharb |
;) |
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jcamins |
francharb: my excuse is that I always work on weekends. |
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francharb |
:) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 14:12 |
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francharb |
0/ magnuse |
| 14:14 |
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magnuse |
hiya francharb |
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LaLuz |
hi |
| 14:27 |
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wahanui |
bonjour, LaLuz |
| 14:37 |
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LaLuz |
what are the best practices fro someone from git |
| 14:38 |
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LaLuz |
*installing |
| 14:41 |
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jcamins |
git? |
| 14:41 |
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wahanui |
git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 14:42 |
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jcamins |
^^ I believe you'll find instructions on that page. |
| 14:43 |
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jcamins |
The overview is: clone repo, install dependencies, run through installer choosing "dev" mode, run make. |
| 14:44 |
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jcamins |
And, of course, don't use a git install in production. |
| 14:48 |
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LaLuz |
for a debain setup |
| 14:48 |
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LaLuz |
should i just use the prebuilt package |
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fudm |
hi guys |
| 14:51 |
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jcamins |
I would recommend that, yes. |
| 14:51 |
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fudm |
my Z39:59 search is not responding |
| 14:51 |
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LaLuz |
apt-get install koha |
| 14:51 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... apt-get install koha is PDC |
| 14:52 |
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fudm |
what do think is the problm |
| 14:52 |
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jcamins |
LaLuz: apt-get install koha-common |
| 14:52 |
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jcamins |
fudm: you would have to give us a lot more information than that. |
| 14:53 |
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fudm |
k |
| 14:53 |
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jcamins |
Based on what you've told me, I am going to guess randomly it's a firewall issue. |
| 14:53 |
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fudm |
k |
| 14:53 |
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fudm |
tnx i think that is it |
| 14:54 |
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fudm |
cos it some of the time |
| 14:54 |
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fudm |
respond som of the time |
| 14:55 |
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fudm |
@jcamins u bn so helpful koha is up and running in my school now tnx man! |
| 14:55 |
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huginn |
fudm: downloading the Perl source |
| 14:55 |
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fudm |
k |
| 15:22 |
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LaLuz |
koha in in maintenece mode |
| 15:24 |
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Kabii |
hey |
| 15:26 |
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jcamins |
Kabii: did you go through the web installer? |
| 15:27 |
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Kabii |
no |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
You need to. |
| 15:27 |
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Kabii |
how do i access it |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
Access it via the intranet. |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
packages? |
| 15:27 |
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wahanui |
i heard packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 15:27 |
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jcamins |
^^ that page has the best instructions |
| 15:28 |
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jcamins |
plack? |
| 15:28 |
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wahanui |
Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
| 15:28 |
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jcamins |
(that's for me not you) |
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francharb |
see ya tomorrow |
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* cait |
waves |
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jcamins |
Hello. |
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cait |
hi jcamins |
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