Time Nick Message 00:54 LaLuz hi 00:54 wahanui hello, LaLuz 00:55 LaLuz i am trying to install koha on my mac locally 00:56 LaLuz wahanui, hi 00:56 wahanui hola, LaLuz 00:57 LaLuz wahanui, are you a bot 00:57 wahanui OK, LaLuz. 00:57 jcamins LaLuz: wahanui is, yes. 00:57 LaLuz ok 00:57 jcamins LaLuz: I have never heard of anyone installing Koha on OSX. 00:57 jcamins I recommend using Debian or Ubuntu in a VirtualBox VM. 00:57 LaLuz according to the readme its possible 00:57 jcamins Really? 00:57 LaLuz read the read me 00:58 LaLuz or the INSTALL 00:58 wahanui the install is done yet 00:58 jcamins Well, no one has done it in three years. 00:58 LaLuz so i am going to be the first 00:58 jcamins I think so. :) 00:58 jcamins Well- I suppose there's a slight chance it's so easy that people have done it without encountering a single problem. 00:58 jcamins But that seems unlikely. 00:59 jcamins What version of Koha are you installing? 01:01 LaLuz git 01:01 jcamins So the latest master, 3.9 (soon to be 3.10)? 01:01 LaLuz yah 01:01 LaLuz i just cloned it 20 minutes ago 01:01 jcamins Good... I was concerned you might be trying to install Koha 2.0. 01:02 LaLuz are you a dev 01:03 jcamins Yes. I'm the Release Manager for 3.12. 01:04 jcamins I see no mention of Macs in the INSTALL or README files. 01:05 jcamins (if you're comfortable doing development on a Mac I would suppose it'd probably be possible to compile everything from source, but I certainly wouldn't know how to do it) 01:06 LaLuz and I quote Koha runs on many Un*x style systems, including a variety of Linux distributions and Mac OS X 01:06 jcamins Where did you clone the repository from? 01:07 LaLuz https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha/blob/4_12/INSTALL 01:07 jcamins Ah. 01:07 jcamins There's your problem. 01:07 jcamins That's not Koha. 01:07 jcamins That's LibLime's proprietary fork. 01:07 LaLuz so where do i find koha 01:07 jcamins I highly doubt it works on Macs, either, and there's no support for it. 01:07 jcamins koha-community.org 01:07 wahanui i think koha-community.org is actually updated and right 01:07 jcamins wahanui: thanks... 01:07 wahanui my pleasure jcamins 01:08 jcamins You can clone from git.koha-community.org 01:08 LaLuz i was testing both builds of evergreen and koha 01:09 jcamins LibLime's proprietary fork is much less actively developed than Koha. 01:09 LaLuz give me the git link 01:09 jcamins You'll have a much more fair comparison between open source Koha and Evergreen, not to mention some hope of free help from this channel. :) 01:09 jcamins git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git 01:09 jcamins http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=summary <-- gitweb 01:10 LaLuz cloniong now 01:11 LaLuz how does koha work in a multi branch system 01:12 jcamins The way you would expect, I think. Each library can have separate circ rules, you can transfer books between branches, etc. 01:13 LaLuz i know u are a koha dev 01:13 LaLuz but how does it compare to evergreen if you dont mind me asking 01:13 jcamins I prefer Koha. 01:13 LaLuz evergreen was a bitch and a have to setup 01:13 jcamins For two reasons: 01:13 LaLuz excuse my language 01:13 wahanui LaLuz: runaway cat on system. 01:13 jcamins 1) installing Evergreen made me want to kill myself. 01:13 jcamins 2) searches can get painfully slow 01:14 LaLuz yah 01:14 LaLuz if you make 1 small typo somewhere you are screwed 01:14 LaLuz and you have to start the server from scratch 01:14 jcamins Due to the database, not their search syntax. I'm actually in the process of porting the Evergreen QueryParser to Koha. 01:15 LaLuz all the libraries here uses koha 01:15 jcamins Where are you located? 01:15 LaLuz el salvador 01:15 LaLuz well not all 01:15 jcamins Oh, another reason I like Koha better: the community is larger, and more geographically diverse. 01:15 LaLuz some 01:16 jcamins Which means when you have a question at an odd time you have a reasonable chance of someone being around to answer it. 01:16 LaLuz odd imes 01:16 LaLuz are my specially 01:17 jcamins Mine too, as you probably gathered from the fact that it's Friday night and I was around to answer your question. 01:17 LaLuz yah 01:18 LaLuz since i moved out here 01:18 LaLuz time does not make sense to me anymore 01:20 LaLuz they want me to intergrate all the branches 01:20 jcamins How many are there? 01:20 LaLuz so far we have 10 01:20 LaLuz but we are goignt to get 13 more 01:21 LaLuz not including the government library which soon i will get access too 01:21 jcamins What ILS are they using now? 01:21 LaLuz apparently koha 01:22 LaLuz but it came to a shock to me that they told me that koha was not free software 01:22 jcamins _Koha_ is free software. 01:22 jcamins "LibLime Koha" is not. 01:23 LaLuz i know which means someone is charging them a hefty fine 01:23 LaLuz *fee 01:23 jcamins Well, if they want support, that does cost money. 01:24 jcamins My company provides hosting and support for Koha, and we're not cheap. 01:24 LaLuz whats your company 01:24 jcamins C & P Bibliography Services. 01:24 LaLuz im going to get a vps for koha 01:24 LaLuz right now 01:24 wahanui right now is testing just somebody seeing if it works? 01:25 jcamins That's the easiest thing to do. 01:25 LaLuz it would take me 20 minute to get the sever brb 01:28 LaLuz i found a really good vps deal 01:29 jcamins Oh, that's another thing I like about Koha compared to Evergreen: I can run a decent-sized Koha installation with 1GB of RAM. 01:30 LaLuz evergreen requires minimum 2gbn 01:30 LaLuz some people are running production servers with 128 01:30 jcamins Exactly. 01:31 LaLuz in third world countries they never even heard of 128 01:31 jcamins The more RAM you give Koha the better, of course, but it's not absolutely mandatory to have 2GB for just a few thousand records. 01:32 LaLuz what about if you are getting somewhere in the half million 01:33 jcamins If you're seeing significant usage, I'd want two 8GB servers: one for MySQL, one for Apache. 01:34 jcamins Well, I'd always *want* 192GB of RAM, but I wouldn't really have a use for it. I just think it'd be cool. ;) 01:34 LaLuz well when i take control over the central library system here for the country 01:35 LaLuz can you believe they are still using pen and paper 01:35 jcamins Yikes! 01:36 LaLuz and the old cards 01:36 LaLuz yah computer systems do not exist around here much 01:37 LaLuz has anyone hit 256gb of ram 01:37 jcamins With Koha? 01:37 jcamins Not that I know of. 01:37 LaLuz i know people are building clusters with 1tb 01:37 jcamins There are fairly large consortia using 32GB RAM, total. 01:37 LaLuz just becaus they want to convert a movine 10 minutes 01:38 LaLuz *seconds 01:38 LaLuz i sent a email to the hosting company 01:38 LaLuz hopefully i can get my same setup 01:42 LaLuz i have yet to see there setup 01:42 LaLuz is there a way to convert liblime to koha 01:43 jcamins Basically you just have to do a migration, the same as you would from any other ILS. 01:43 jcamins A friend of mine who works at ByWater Solutions has done dozens. 01:45 LaLuz sorry if i asking 1000 million questions 01:48 jcamins No problem. We like curious people on #koha. :) 01:49 LaLuz just waiting for a response 01:49 LaLuz from the hosting company 02:05 LaLuz This is going no where 02:05 LaLuz im going tobed 02:06 jcamins Have a good night. 08:19 magnuse kia ora cait 08:20 cait hi magnuse 08:20 magnuse :-) 12:51 mascha hi there, just installed koha 3.8 can I switch off the field 942 subfield c? 12:52 mascha I mean there is a mandatory field can I uncheck it? 12:55 jcamins_away mascha: you can edit your framework to not make it mandatory. 13:01 mascha thx, got a search result with z39.50 and want to put it in the database but there is Koha [default] item type to be set ???? 13:02 mascha no idea what it could be 13:12 jcamins_away You can set it to whatever you like. 13:12 jcamins_away You have to configure your item types. 13:23 mascha mmmmhhhh... it works. But what means OSt in Marc-field 003? 13:24 mascha oh, oh... it's a long way to become a librarian 13:30 francharb hi 13:51 jcamins_away francharb: shouldn't you be off today? 13:52 francharb jcamins_away, I should but I have things to be done quickly so... 13:52 francharb here I am 13:52 francharb :) 13:52 francharb what about you jcamins_away ? 13:53 francharb what's your excuse? 13:53 francharb your nick says "away" 13:53 francharb ;) 13:54 jcamins francharb: my excuse is that I always work on weekends. 13:55 francharb :) 14:07 * magnuse waves 14:12 francharb 0/ magnuse 14:14 magnuse hiya francharb 14:27 LaLuz hi 14:27 wahanui bonjour, LaLuz 14:37 LaLuz what are the best practices fro someone from git 14:38 LaLuz *installing 14:41 jcamins git? 14:41 wahanui git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 14:42 jcamins ^^ I believe you'll find instructions on that page. 14:43 jcamins The overview is: clone repo, install dependencies, run through installer choosing "dev" mode, run make. 14:44 jcamins And, of course, don't use a git install in production. 14:48 LaLuz for a debain setup 14:48 LaLuz should i just use the prebuilt package 14:50 fudm hi guys 14:51 jcamins I would recommend that, yes. 14:51 fudm my Z39:59 search is not responding 14:51 LaLuz apt-get install koha 14:51 wahanui hmmm... apt-get install koha is PDC 14:52 fudm what do think is the problm 14:52 jcamins LaLuz: apt-get install koha-common 14:52 jcamins fudm: you would have to give us a lot more information than that. 14:53 fudm k 14:53 jcamins Based on what you've told me, I am going to guess randomly it's a firewall issue. 14:53 fudm k 14:53 fudm tnx i think that is it 14:54 fudm cos it some of the time 14:54 fudm respond som of the time 14:55 fudm @jcamins u bn so helpful koha is up and running in my school now tnx man! 14:55 huginn fudm: downloading the Perl source 14:55 fudm k 15:22 LaLuz koha in in maintenece mode 15:24 Kabii hey 15:26 jcamins Kabii: did you go through the web installer? 15:27 Kabii no 15:27 jcamins You need to. 15:27 Kabii how do i access it 15:27 jcamins Access it via the intranet. 15:27 jcamins packages? 15:27 wahanui i heard packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 15:27 jcamins ^^ that page has the best instructions 15:28 jcamins plack? 15:28 wahanui Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. 15:28 jcamins (that's for me not you) 16:11 francharb see ya tomorrow 16:57 * cait waves 16:57 jcamins Hello. 17:42 cait hi jcamins 22:12 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @27point7: "Ajouter %D aux logs apache pour pouvoir repérer les pages qui mettent trop temps à charger? #idéedusoir #kohails"