IRC log for #koha, 2012-11-12

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00:04 mtj everyone - please excuse my trolly email to koha-dev
00:15 BobB why do you say that, mtj?  seems a good idea to me
00:17 mtj i was being sarcastic :)
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00:18 mtj its a perfectly good idea, that some people will find offensive
00:21 BobB :)
00:40 wizzyrea the first page, is managed by.... I think gmcharlt has a hand in that
00:41 wizzyrea I might have a login technically, but I've long since forgotten/lost what it is
00:41 wizzyrea plus I don't work at nekls anymore :)
00:41 wizzyrea BUT the other, the
00:41 wizzyrea that I can fix
00:44 jcamins_away I can edit the page.
00:51 BobB hi wizzyrea : welcome to the southern hemisphere :)
00:52 mtj cool.. so after some +1's replies for my email on koha-dev, we are good to go
00:52 wizzyrea cool, thanks bobb :)
00:52 wizzyrea and thanks jcamins
00:53 mtj you settling in ok, liz?
00:53 BobB First day at Catalyst?  Enjoy!!
00:58 wizzyrea so far so good - lots to do :)
00:58 wizzyrea thanks, yep it's my first day here, pretty exciting.
01:05 wizzyrea version control using git?
01:05 wahanui version control using git is at[…]Control_Using_Git
01:05 wizzyrea thanks wahanui ;)
01:06 wizzyrea I knew there was a reason I put all of those links in your memory
01:07 wizzyrea mysql library?
01:07 wizzyrea report library
01:07 wahanui i guess report library is at[…]L_Reports_Library
01:10 rangi mtj: the +1 offlist replies?
01:12 mtj no, onlist replies please
01:13 rangi yeah i just havent seen any
01:14 mtj lol, yeap - me neither...
01:14 mtj hey chris, start that ball rollin'
01:15 rangi i thougth you said you got some?
01:16 mtj no, i said we are good to go… *after* i get some
01:17 rangi ah right
01:22 mtj wizzyrea, is there a new person at NEKLS now, that handles stuff
01:23 mtj … that i should bug, instead of you
01:23 wizzyrea no, I still handle that stuff
01:23 wizzyrea :)
01:23 wizzyrea (and that's totally ok and by design)
01:23 mtj cool, good to hear
01:47 eythian[…]uttonPainter.html <-- java
01:47 wizzyrea jcamins, when you have a minute we should chat about things you want to put in 3.6.(next)
03:08 wizzyrea does anyone have a favorite screenshotting tool for linux?
03:09 eythian wizzyrea: I press printscreen usually
03:09 eythian although, gimp has a screenshotting function
03:09 wizzyrea utilitarian :)
03:10 eythian it's not something I do a lot of :)
03:11 eythian you can use alt-printscreen if you want to be fancy ;)
03:11 wizzyrea is there a known weirdness in the header of the intranet? I'll grant you I've not been looking much at koha for the last couple of weeks - but there used to be tabs up there?
03:11 wizzyrea well 3 weeks
03:12 eythian wizzyrea: tabs?
03:12 wahanui tabs are different
03:12 wizzyrea lol yea
03:12 eythian also, "shutter" looks good for screenshots
03:12 wizzyrea for check out, check in
03:12 wizzyrea search patrons
03:12 eythian ah
03:12 wizzyrea under the search bar
03:13 eythian make sure you do a force refresh, I've had old CSS stuck in cache before
03:13 wizzyrea hrm noo it's not that
03:13 mtj hmm, same bug for me wiz ?!
03:14 wizzyrea !!
03:14 wizzyrea phew, I thought I had lost my mind or done something strange
03:14 mtj me wonky in chrome , but ok in safari
03:14 wizzyrea mine is broken in firefox and chromium
03:15 mtj ok in ff-osx for me
03:16 wizzyrea this is ff-ubuntu
03:16 eythian ah, it was clearly broken by someone using OSX! :)
03:16 mtj meh, some refresh fixed it on chrome too
03:16 wizzyrea hrmmm tjat
03:17 wizzyrea is not working for me :/
03:17 eythian are you getting 404s from any of the stylesheets?
03:17 mtj whats a quick/dirty image-upload website?
03:17 eythian imgur
03:18 jcamins_away Is it a package install?
03:18 wizzyrea yep
03:18 wizzyrea package converted to dev
03:18 wizzyrea following reed's instructions - I don't see any 404's let me double check
03:19 wizzyrea TypeError: $("#header_search").tabs is not a function
03:19 jcamins_away We just noticed problems with yui stylesheets.
03:19 jcamins_away Okay, that's not it.
03:19 wizzyrea AHA
03:19 eythian also make sure that you don't have different versions of things, e.g. running package libs with git templates
03:19 wizzyrea well I probably do have that
03:19 mtj ta eythian++
03:20 mtj wizzyrea, like that? ->
03:20 wizzyrea no, mine is even a bit more silly than that
03:20 wizzyrea 1s
03:20 eythian basically, if you miss a path either in the apache config, or in the koha-conf.xml, then you can get crazy things happening.
03:20 wizzyrea k I'm going to double check my koha-conf
03:20 wizzyrea bc I think I did not do much in there.
03:20 eythian search for 'share'
03:20 eythian that catches everything in there I think
03:20 wizzyrea eythian++ thanks I will look for that
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03:21 wizzyrea and I will add that to the instructions on the wiki
03:21 * wizzyrea pats wahanui
03:21 eythian that wiki page is pretty old
03:21 wizzyrea it needs a bit of help I think
03:22 jcamins_away Wait, I'm confused.
03:22 jcamins_away What did you do?
03:22 jcamins_away And... why?
03:22 jcamins_away Why not just use koha-perldeps?
03:23 wizzyrea i converted a package install to a dev install
03:23 wizzyrea no, that part is ok
03:23 wizzyrea I think
03:23 jcamins_away Right, koha-perldeps is a new package.
03:23 jcamins_away eythian++ # for making it
03:23 wizzyrea I've been away for a month I have some catching up to do :)
03:24 jcamins_away I pushed it last week, I think.
03:25 wizzyrea
03:25 wizzyrea is what mine looks like
03:25 jcamins_away What version?
03:25 wizzyrea TypeError: YAHOO.widget.DS_XHR is not a constructor is also a problem
03:25 wizzyrea master
03:26 jcamins_away Hmmm... could you confirm that?
03:26 wizzyrea that looks like a path problem let me do some digging about
03:26 wizzyrea so put that aside for now ;)
03:26 jcamins_away I've seen that when checking out 3.6.x on an installation that previously had master running.
03:27 jcamins_away On a Mac it requires _Alt_+refresh.
03:27 * wizzyrea is on ubuntu now :)
03:27 wizzyrea no more mac for me
03:27 jcamins_away Ah.
03:29 wizzyrea well that didn't change anything, but I will go back and look for more things that I possibly missed
03:29 jcamins_away wizzyrea: I'll look at recent commits that need cherry-picking tomorrow.
03:30 wizzyrea it's np - I'm not ready to start cherry-picking yet, I'm still at the talking phase atm
03:30 jcamins_away :)
03:30 wizzyrea bc you see I don't have a proper installation to work from yet :)
03:30 jcamins_away Right.
03:32 eythian jcamins_away: thing is, perldeps requires you to do a lot more, whereas starting from a complete install means you have to change a few paths and it works.
03:32 eythian (usually)
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03:33 rgbv hi all
03:33 jcamins_away eythian: I haven't tried koha-perldeps, I just read the debian/control file.
03:33 eythian yeah, all it does is pull in the deps for you (which is useful)
03:33 eythian however, koha-common will give you a working installation.
03:35 rgbv we have run a report that has made mysql hog 99% of the cpu, any idea how I can stop it?
03:35 jcamins_away rgbv: kill the query?
03:36 eythian show processlist;
03:36 eythian and then kill the query number
03:36 rgbv so PID from top and then kill?
03:36 jcamins_away No.
03:36 eythian these are mysql commands
03:37 jcamins_away In MySQL, run show processlist;
03:37 jcamins_away Then kill querynumber;
03:37 jcamins_away As root.
03:37 jcamins_away (MySQL root)
03:37 eythian I don't think you have to be root, you an also be the same user that's running the query (I'm somewhat sure)
03:38 jcamins_away eythian: oh, right grant all privileges. Right. :)
03:38 * jcamins_away is kinda sleepy.
03:39 rgbv the query number the Id  like 427347
03:39 rgbv then kill 427347 at mysql prompt?
03:40 jcamins_away eythian: BTW,[…]6767803b308b46cb2
03:40 eythian yeah
03:40 jcamins_away rgbv: right.
03:40 eythian jcamins_away: oh, good :)
03:41 jcamins_away eythian: it doesn't entirely work at all.
03:41 eythian oh, bad
03:42 jcamins_away The Recommends field doesn't seem to show up in the packages I build.
03:43 eythian do you have No-Recommends enabled on your apt config?
03:43 jcamins_away Ummm...
03:43 eythian (it isn't by default)
03:43 jcamins_away I don't know? How would I find out?
03:44 eythian $ cat apt.conf.d/90install-recommends
03:44 eythian APT::Install-Recommends "0";
03:44 eythian something like that
03:44 rgbv Brilliant, Thanks you both :)
03:46 jcamins_away eythian: the bug_9051 branch on has all my work on that.
03:47 eythian OK. Maybe I'll grab it and take a look
03:47 wizzyrea eythian: it was almost certainly the paths - i'm still getting that sorted but thanks for the gentle nudge in the right direction
03:47 jcamins_away You should regenerate the control file, though.
03:47 eythian yep
03:49 jcamins_away eythian: the update-control scripts would require further refinement to make it work properly under Precise.
03:50 eythian what's special about precise?
03:51 jcamins_away Ubuntu redid the way Perl modules are packaged.
03:51 eythian oh. that's a strange thing to do.
03:55 jcamins_away Yeah. I added a couple of overrides, but I'll need to review all the packages or the koha packages won't install on any other OS version or flavor.
03:55 eythian oh good. I'll have to figure out what they're doing there.
03:56 eythian also, this affects building on precise, not deploying on it?
03:56 jcamins_away Right.
03:56 jcamins_away Precise has shim packages.
03:56 jcamins_away Apparently.
03:56 eythian ah.
03:57 jcamins_away But I was unable to build packages at all without changing the libwww packages, and the results aren't installable on Squeeze.
03:57 eythian how weird
03:58 eythian I wonder what they're thinking
03:58 wizzyrea alright friends, I'm outtie :)
03:58 eythian I don't recall anything along those lines happening in debian
03:58 jcamins_away I think they're not, most likely.
04:00 eythian also, I build in wheezy a lot of the time, so would have noticed it there.
04:00 jcamins_away Good night, wizzyrea. :)
04:01 eythian too late, she's gone :)
04:10 eythian <-- this is an explanation of the current state of bugzilla
04:10 eythian the Koha bugzilla that is
04:12 * eythian doesn't have permissions to fix it :(
04:14 rangi any ideas when it stopped?
04:14 eythian recently, but not sure exactly
04:14 eythian some time before 17:07
04:20 jcamins_away Oh, right... when bugzilla is down I can't use it.
04:20 eythian yeah, it's a common misconception that you actually can.
04:21 jcamins_away Probably this is a hint that I shouldn't be bugzilla-ing anyway.
04:21 * jcamins_away heads to bed.
04:21 eythian later
04:23 rangi should be all back
04:23 eythian jcamins_away: you can avoid bed now
04:26 rangi Nov 12 03:48:54 li105-217 kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 29246 (mysqld) score 259 or sacrifice child
04:26 rangi Nov 12 03:48:54 li105-217 kernel: Killed process 29246 (mysqld) total-vm:336088kB, anon-rss:80288kB, file-rss:0kB
04:26 rangi that will do it
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04:51 rangi @wunder nzwn
04:51 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (5:00 PM NZDT on November 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
05:12 mtj oooh, koha-plack start/stop script for the deb packages
05:12 mtj ->[…]-opac-with-plack/
05:13 eythian[…]uild_The_Packages <-- /me has finally updated the instructions to account for annoying (but sensible) changes in Debian.
05:18 mtj woah, lots of gpg addition
05:18 mtj additions
05:20 mtj eythian++ awesome stuff
05:25 mtj i think im finally gonna switch my dev koha over to plack (or starman?) today
05:26 mtj i might as well kill *3* birds with one stone, after the successful mariadb switch
05:29 eythian yeah, a while back they changed how pbuilder worked to make it more strict about checking certs
05:29 eythian should make a koha-community signing key at some point so it's not using my personal one.
05:33 eythian @wunder nzwn
05:33 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (6:00 PM NZDT on November 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
05:57 eythian new packages from master published
05:57 mtj hmm, did we/magnus forget to activate the gbsd tweets this time
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06:15 magnuse the tweets were rubbish last time, and i did not get around to figuring out why
06:15 magnuse ...and kia ora #koha
06:16 francharb hi #koha
06:16 magnuse hiya francharb
06:16 * magnuse takes the dogs out
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06:30 rangi magnuse: how much left of the bug weekend?
06:54 magnuse rangi: short answer: depends on where you are :-)
06:55 rangi :)
06:55 magnuse according to[…]21112T2355&p1=103 it ends at 11 pm on tuesday for you
06:56 magnuse and 11 am on tuesday for me
06:56 cait ah
06:56 rangi righto
06:56 cait that#s good
06:56 cait so we still got time!
06:56 magnuse yup
06:58 magnuse[…]status-gbsd11.txt
06:59 cait hm one major waiting for sign-off currently
07:00 rangi yep
07:00 magnuse which one?
07:00 wahanui which one is 3.6.x?
07:00 magnuse oog, good one wahanui
07:00 rangi bug 8746
07:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8746 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , don't work where Record length of 106041 is larger than the MARC spec allows
07:01 magnuse @arewethereyet
07:01 huginn magnuse: Not yet - wait 10 days
07:03 cait hmm
07:03 cait is it possible bugzilla doesn't let you sort by severity on saved searches? (by default?)
07:04 rangi it depends how the person saved it
07:04 rangi if they didnt save it with the severity column, then no, you have to click change columns
07:04 rangi and add itt
07:04 rangi then you can sort on it
07:05 * magnuse looks for breakfast
07:05 cait aah
07:05 cait maybe that was the reason then
07:06 cait thx :)
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07:26 alex_a bonjour
07:27 rangi hi alex_a
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07:56 sophie_m hi#koha
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07:58 magnuse bonjour france
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08:00 reiveune hello
08:04 paul_p good morning #koha
08:05 paul_p rangi do you have seen France-Australie 2 days ago ? great match from froggies, aussies strangely poorly playing (was it because frenchies were really better ? not completly sure...)
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08:15 magnuse gah, lots of french strings in the nb-NO syspref translation
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08:15 gaetan_B hello
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08:20 marcelr hi #koha
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08:21 wizzyrea really ought to fix that. tomorrow.
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08:24 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea
08:25 wizzyrea hi :)
08:25 magnuse first day at work done?
08:26 wizzyrea yep, first day of work for me, and first day of school for spud.
08:26 wizzyrea well half day for him
08:27 magnuse yay
08:27 magnuse preschool?
08:28 wizzyrea yep :)
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08:39 drojf good morning #koha
08:40 kf hi drojf
08:40 kf you are back too? :)
08:42 drojf hi kf
08:42 drojf not much koha-time ATM
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08:49 magnuse kia ora trea
08:49 magnuse ...and kf and drojf
08:50 drojf good morning magnuse
08:59 trea hi magnuse
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09:11 WaylonR hiya all. wheres an example of a enhancement bug in
09:12 magnuse WaylonR: tried the advanced search?
09:13 kf hi all
09:14 magnuse it's... the return of kf!
09:14 kf yay :)
09:15 magnuse :-)
09:28 wizzyrea squee! kf!
09:28 magnuse hehe
09:34 magnuse back to work after 3 weeks holiday - probably rather busy
09:42 kf hi wizzyrea :)
09:42 kf squeee! how was your first day?
09:42 wizzyrea it went well :)
09:43 kf :)
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10:11 WaylonR bug 9055:  The jQuery plugin and its associated assets need to go in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/lib/jquery/plugins .... does that mean that I put the js in there, and the css in a subdir inside plugins, images in a subdir?
10:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, ASSIGNED ,'s multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
10:11 WaylonR or have it all in plugins?
10:12 kf WaylonR: maybe talk to oleonard about that - I am not sure how they get added
10:13 magnuse kf: mind if i add a patch for nb-NO to Bug 9020, after signing off your patch?
10:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9020 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Translate new permissions for 3.10
10:13 kf magnuse: not add all
10:13 kf that's why I kept the German out of hte subject I think :)
10:14 WaylonR why oleonard, kf?
10:14 kf because I think he knows about those things best :)
10:14 WaylonR ah
10:14 WaylonR hmm.
10:14 kf he is looking after the gui in general
10:14 kf and doing things like moving us to jquery ui
10:15 WaylonR well.. i can always be told later, for now, ill just fix according to what i think jcamins wants... and yeah. Do something, even though i feel.. ah... wierd..
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10:17 WaylonR ah.. i need more monitors..
10:18 WaylonR out of interest, how many monitors you use, kf?
10:19 kf 2 at work, one at home
10:19 * WaylonR nods. "two here,ah.. was a time when i used three.
10:20 WaylonR when i had 3.
10:33 WaylonR okay, jcamins comment 1. solved.
10:34 WaylonR database changes.. don't I need a update number for that? or .... do i just use next one in the sequence and if it goes into master, RM will change it accordingly?
10:35 kf you make it say XXX
10:35 kf just look at another patch with a database update
10:50 WaylonR why am i updating sysprefs.sql when its largely irrelevant now, anyway?
10:51 WaylonR just for the defaults?
11:04 magnuse kf: your patch on bug 9020 is signed off
11:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9020 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Translate new permissions for 3.10
11:09 WaylonR2D2 haha
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11:10 WaylonR2D2 okay, comment 3, halfdone.. moving on to the updatedatabase stanza.... time to find a database change patch, and see what it does.
11:10 WaylonR2D2 +$DBversion = "3.06.XX.XXX"; #FIXME
11:10 WaylonR2D2 ahhh!!!!!
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11:17 Oak kia ora #koha
11:17 Oak magnuse
11:19 magnuse Oak
11:19 magnuse yay!
11:19 Oak :)
11:32 WaylonR2D2 every new database insert, requires a new version?
11:33 kf it increases the last part of the version number, yes
11:33 WaylonR2D2 (in updatedatabase)
11:33 WaylonR2D2 right.. so.. okay.. three updatedatabase stanzas for three new prefs.
11:33 kf hm no
11:34 kf you can do those in 1 version
11:34 kf sorry, I might have misunderstood your question
11:34 kf not for each insert, but for each update/feature
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12:48 tcohen morning #koha
12:50 drojf hi tcohen
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12:59 oleonard Hi #koha
13:02 tcohen hi oleonard
13:03 * oleonard is sorry we didn't get the GBSD Twitter bot running for GBSW :(
13:09 kf oh
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13:23 jcamins_away kf: that was the bug I fixed in the fishsoup branch.
13:27 * oleonard wonders "Fishsoup branch?!"
13:27 jcamins_away oleonard: git-bz.
13:27 drojf oleonard: i did not dare to ask :)
13:28 kf jcamins: hm checked out the latest version - and it didn't work there for me
13:28 kf jcamins: maybe I need to do something else
13:29 jcamins kf: Hm.
13:34 oleonard Does anyone have a bug in the signoff queue that they'd like to lobby for?
13:35 drojf omg free signoffs and i'm not prepared ;)
13:35 * drojf wanders off
13:36 jcamins oleonard: bug 4481
13:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items
13:36 kf oleonard: I think anything marked bug and not enhancement would be great
13:36 kf this one looks good
13:37 oleonard No test plan :(
13:37 * oleonard will try
13:41 oleonard I always hope that during GBSD someone with a patch awaiting signoff will take the time to walk me (or anyone) through testing it, especially for the patches that are getting old
13:41 oleonard Seems like a great opportunity to rescue patches from obsolescence
13:44 jcamins More patches to push already.
13:44 jcamins Oy.
13:46 oleonard The non-enh list of needs-signoff is quite short, I didn't realize.
13:46 jcamins oleonard: yeah, there are...
13:47 jcamins 14 patches for 3.10 that need signoff.
13:47 jcamins Down from 16 on Friday, even though about a dozen were signed off.
13:47 jcamins Sorry, guys.
13:48 jcamins 15.
13:48 jcamins The typo one doesn't involve string changes.
13:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #11 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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14:38 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software The next general meeting is 7 November 2012 2:00 UTC
14:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #11: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/11/
14:40 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 8805 - Add a biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for NORMARC
14:40 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8784 - Missing files in debian.packages list
14:40 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9005: Allow user to disable syspref cache
14:40 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 8919 - ExtendedPatronAttributes not populated from LDAP
14:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8989 - Availability facet needs an id
14:40 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8832: Update the gist pref and hide the tax rate value if not needed
14:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8972 - Due Date set to 100 years ago
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8805 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Add a biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl for NORMARC
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8784 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Missing files in debian.packages list
14:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8972 - Due Date set to 100 years ago
14:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8989 - Availability facet needs an id
14:40 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8832: Increment version number
14:40 jenkins_koha * serhijdubyk: Bug 9010 - Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly Added utf8-encoding in json-header for correct view quotes in quotes editor.
14:40 jenkins_koha * veron: Bug 9010 - Follou up Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly
14:40 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8931 [Follow-up] submit buttons have blue background
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8919 critical, P1 - high, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , ExtendedPatronAttributes not populated from LDAP
14:40 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8988: item status uses authorized value description for intranet
14:40 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7921: Software error while placing order
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8989 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Availability facet needs an id
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8832 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , can't enter a tax rate on vendor or when ordering
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8972 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Due Date set to 100 years ago.
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9010 blocker, P5 - low, ---, dubyk, Pushed to Master , Quote of the day: diacritics & other utf8 chars not displayed correctly
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , submit buttons have blue background
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8988 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , item status uses authorized value description for intranet
14:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7921 major, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error while placing order
14:42 magnuse success! \o/
14:43 jcamins Guess I ought to push some patches.
14:44 * magnuse does not think anyone will be complaining :-)
14:45 * dracolin1 complains for no reason
14:46 jcamins If any QAers are around, bug 9036 and bug 7119 are in need of attention.
14:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9036 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , 00-load.t checks Koha::Cache::Memcached when it should not
14:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7119 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , general code-cleaning, tidy/whitespace omnibus
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14:55 * oleonard wonders why Bug 7932 is so hard to fix
14:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7932 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , twitter share doesn't work with socialnetworks
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14:57 jcamins bug 8435
14:57 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8435 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , new permissions on subscriptions "superserials"
15:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8915' into 3.12-master <[…]e3b2d37c00fc7268a> / Bug 8915: Followup FIX QA issues <[…]d1a73a00a1619f591> / Bug 8915 A script fixing missing MySQL contraints <[…]b11ac07febd883b95
15:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #940 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #936 3 days 10 hr ago)
15:36 * chris_n stops in for a moment
15:53 chris_n LOL => "I have never written bad code. There are merely unanticipated features."
15:53 jcamins chris_n: where did you see that?
15:53 chris_n someone's perlmonks tag line
15:54 jcamins lol
16:04 * kf waves at chris_n
16:10 reiveune bye
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16:17 chris_n heya kf
16:21 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
16:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #940: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/940/
16:21 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 9053: Test::MockModule and DBD::Mock should be required
16:21 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 8915 A script fixing missing MySQL contraints
16:21 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8915: Followup FIX QA issues
16:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9053 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Test::MockModule and DBD::Mock should be required
16:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8915 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Referential integrity constraints and InnoDB vs MyISAM storage engine
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16:30 oleonard If I add an item and fill in 952f, the data should appear in items.coded_location_qualifier?
16:31 jcamins oleonard: yes.
16:33 oleonard Weird, if I "select * from items where itemnumber = 11341" I see the information in coded_location_qualifier, but if I "select coded_location_qualifier from items where coded_location_qualifier IS NOT NULL;" I get nothing.
16:34 jcamins oleonard: really?
16:34 jcamins That's very strange.
16:35 * jcamins did the former to test it.
16:35 jcamins Didn't occur to me to try the latter.
16:37 oleonard Oh wait I think I'm misreading the columns in my select *
16:37 oleonard The data I put in 952f is in more_subfields_xml
16:38 jcamins oleonard: really? It wasn't for me.
16:39 oleonard what is coded_location_qualifier used for anyway?
16:39 jcamins oleonard: no idea.
16:39 oleonard Heh.
16:39 jcamins However, prior to the patch you couldn't use it at all, period.
16:40 pastebot "jcamins" at pasted "oleonard: on current Master" (7 lines) at
16:40 jcamins That's what I get.
16:41 oleonard did you have to manually update your framework to set up the link?
16:42 jcamins No, it's in the default frameworks.
16:42 jcamins That's why it's a bug.
16:43 oleonard Must be a glitch with my default framework.
16:43 jcamins Perhaps you customized your framework?
16:43 jcamins I made no changes at all.
16:54 oleonard Yeah who knows what abuses my default framework has suffered.
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17:30 paul_p jcamins_away = some patches just passed QA.
17:30 paul_p time to go back home for me !
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17:35 jcamins_away paul_p: I'll push later.
17:37 oleonard Hackfest, woooo!
17:37 * oleonard goes to shake his piggy-bank
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18:32 rangi Morning
18:32 wahanui Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:32 bag morning rangi
18:36 cait morning rangi
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18:41 drojf mariadb being a "drop-in replacement" means i install mariadb, it kicks out mysql and everything just works?
18:41 drojf morning rangi
18:41 rangi In theory yes
18:41 rangi That's what are testing
18:42 bag test faster ;)
18:42 bag heh
18:43 drojf cool, gotta try that sometime. more virtual machines ftw :D
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18:44 rangi So far it seems to work fine
18:44 rangi The plan is to test now before we have to
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18:46 rangi Cos all of trust Oracle to do is screw stuff up.
18:46 rangi It sure as hell won't get better on their watch
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18:47 drojf true
18:47 rangi And it would be nice to test before we are forced to
18:47 gaetan_B bye
18:49 bag yeah no kidding those are good points rangi
18:53 rangi Bbl off to do some training
18:54 cait rangi: have fun :)
18:57 tcohen rangi, our DBA told me there is another mysql fork around
18:59 tcohen 'Percona'
18:59 jcamins_away tcohen: Percona isn't quite a fork, as I understand it.
18:59 jcamins_away I think you can use MariaDB + Percona.
19:00 rangi theirs drizzle too
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19:00 rangi but maria is the only one designed to be a drop in, basically i want to test and make sure we have an option to switch if we need to
19:00 chris_n for some reason I seem to recall MariaDB being the better choice
19:01 chris_n what rangi said :)
19:01 * jcamins_away votes that we get all those working.
19:01 rangi im not proposing people switch now, but its better to be prepared :)
19:01 chris_n exactly
19:01 chris_n oracle--
19:01 rangi right now, i really need to prepare my training plan
19:01 tcohen i'm reading that percona is the company that developed XtraDB
19:01 tcohen the drop-in replacement for InnoDB that is included in MarizDB
19:02 tcohen i guess their own fork is not community governed
19:02 jcamins_away tcohen: yeah, Percona supports MariaDB too.
19:02 mtj #moarning #koha
19:02 chris_n heya mtj
19:03 tcohen Drizzle seems to be a stripped version of MySQL
19:03 rangi yep, its super fast
19:03 rangi but a different goal
19:03 jcamins_away Getting Koha working on Drizzle would be really cool.
19:03 rangi so 2 parallels streams of work i can see, keep on the dbix::class (and ::schema)
19:04 rangi meanwhile investigate a dropin for mysql if we have to use that
19:04 jcamins_away rangi: go prepare your training plan, or no one will be driving the train!
19:04 tcohen is it acid compliant at least?
19:04 rangi (ie debian pull mysql)
19:04 rangi tcohen: its designed to be more compliant than mysql
19:04 tcohen (was talking about drizzle)
19:04 rangi the drizzle team want to fix some of the design flaws
19:05 rangi jcamins_away: printing now
19:06 jcamins_away tcohen: yeah, Drizzle is intended to be ACID-compliant.
19:06 ibeardslee .. postgresql?
19:06 jcamins_away ibeardslee: once we have DBIx::Class.
19:06 * chris_n ducks
19:07 chris_n expecting mbalmer to appear any second now :)
19:07 ibeardslee heh
19:07 tcohen do libsysguy need more beer to work on DBIx::Class?
19:08 oleonard biab
19:09 jcamins_away tcohen: probably.
19:12 tcohen jcamins_away: do u have pointers to a supported db engine list for dbix::class?
19:12 jcamins_away tcohen: I do not.
19:13 jcamins_away tcohen: "It has auto-increment support for SQLite, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, SQL Server and DB2 and is known to be used in production on at least the first four, and is fork- and thread-safe out of the box (although your DBD may not be).
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19:14 tcohen jcamins_away: sounds good
19:14 tcohen there's  dbd::drizzle library
19:14 tcohen i guess is just a matter of time
19:14 jcamins_away And I think it just uses DBI internally, so any database with a mature DBD should work, I think.
19:15 rangi yep
19:15 rangi have now printed off all the notes :)
19:15 jcamins_away But if we never get it working with MSSQL, don't expect me to be sad. :P
19:17 drojf aaaw. what did MS ever do to you?
19:17 mtj hmmm, it looks like my innodb tables are now ariadb tables, in mariadb
19:17 mtj ->
19:18 mtj aria being the default storage type in maria
19:18 mtj TRANSACTIONAL= 0 or  1 , i am not sure…
19:19 mtj
19:20 jcamins_away mtj: InnoDB uses transactions.
19:20 bag heya mtj
19:20 bag mtj?
19:20 wahanui hmmm... mtj is a danger to bots everywhere.
19:20 bag boooo boooooo boooooooooo
19:20 mtj looks like aria is non-transactional by default, until enabled
19:21 jcamins_away mtj: well that'd be something important to know.
19:21 * oleonard wonders if his ability to connect to git is affected by the weather
19:21 * oleonard adjusts the rabbit ears on his monitor
19:22 mtj heya brendan
19:24 mtj jcamins_away, i havent confirmed the above … still poking
19:28 oleonard At least we're down to double digits:[…]bin/
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19:45 maximep hey everyone. We juste updated 1 koha installation fromn 3.6 to 3.8 and with it, to DOM indexing
19:45 maximep but it seems right now if I edit a biblio and do a misc/migration_tools/ -z -b -x
19:45 maximep I get duplicate results when I search for that biblio
19:46 maximep doing a /home/koha/kohagit/misc/migr​ation_tools/ -b -r -v -x --where biblionumber=x
19:46 maximep fixes it
19:46 jcamins_away maximep: yes, rangi is going to put a big note about that in the release notes.
19:47 maximep huh, ok :S
19:47 cait jcamins_away: what is the solution? complete reindex? or do you have to do something else?
19:48 cait oleonard++
19:48 jcamins_away cait: complete reindex.
19:49 cait ah ok, not too bad then
19:49 maximep well we do a complete reindex every night
19:49 maximep but still, duplicates for a day :/
19:49 jcamins_away The only way to avoid it is not to ever install Koha 3.8.1-3.8.6.
19:49 maximep we installed 3.8.5 -_-
19:50 maximep so it's fixed in 3.8,7 ?
19:50 jcamins_away Yes.
19:51 maximep ok. Do you remember the bz number or something I could search ?
19:51 jcamins_away @search dom
19:51 huginn jcamins_away: There were no matching configuration variables.
19:51 jcamins_away @query dom
19:51 huginn jcamins_away: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8802 minor, P4, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Library group records - category type reverts to "searchdomain" when editing group record
19:51 huginn jcamins_away: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib
19:51 huginn jcamins_away: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8115 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , DOM indexing configuration should compute totalissues from items.issues
19:51 huginn jcamins_away: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8252 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Error in DOM biblio for UNIMARC (no range for fields 1xx)
19:51 huginn jcamins_away: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8562 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , RandomizeHoldsQueueWeight ignored if StaticHoldsQueueWeight is empty.
19:52 cait oh, we will get spared then I guess :)
19:52 maximep only thing I found is bug 8665
19:52 jcamins_away maximep: however, you should always reindex when doing an upgrade anyway.
19:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8665 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records
19:52 jcamins_away That's the one.
19:53 jcamins_away Always.
19:53 jcamins_away There is absolutely no situation in which an upgrade should not be followed immediately by a reindex.
19:53 maximep we do a -b -r -v -x every night
19:54 maximep unless I have to really delete the index
19:54 jcamins_away Yes, but indexes are not stable between versions of Koha.
19:54 jcamins_away Period.
19:54 jcamins_away rebuild_zebra -r will work fine.
19:54 maximep well then it has to be something else :/
19:55 jcamins_away So this problem occurred *after* rebuilding Zebra?
19:55 cait oleonard: trying to reproduce bug 8614
19:55 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8614 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Icon for scores on OPAC detail page broken
19:56 maximep yes, we updated 4 days ago
19:56 maximep so at least 5 full rebuilds
19:58 jcamins_away maximep: and you haven't changed the 001?
19:59 mtj maximep, so the dupes are still happening after a full-reindex?
20:00 maximep good question... I may have changed the 001. Testing.
20:03 maximep aaaaah you were right
20:03 maximep yeah, it's the 001
20:03 maximep changing it requires a full rebuild
20:04 jcamins_away Between 3.8.1 and 3.8.6, yes.
20:04 maximep ok, will apply your patch
20:04 maximep thanks
20:04 maximep jcamins++
20:07 jcamins_away Okay, I switched to MariaDB.
20:08 jcamins_away Other than a touchy bit where MySQL tried to reassert itself, it went completely smoothly.
20:09 maximep MariaDB is really amazing =)
20:09 jcamins_away maximep: you've used it?
20:10 maximep we use it in a few projects, but I have not worked on those
20:28 chris_n jcamins_away++
20:29 chris_n are you really away? :-)
20:29 jcamins_away chris_n: sort of.
20:39 oleonard did something weird happen in 3.8.x when moving the famfamfam icons out of prog? I see three icons in opac-tmpl/lib/famfamfam and all the rest in opac-tmpl/prog/famfamfam
20:39 jcamins_away Right, hit upon the NOT NULL issue you patched.
20:39 jcamins_away oleonard: ummm...
20:40 * jcamins_away is going to have to go with "yes," cause that's really weird.
20:40 * cait agrees it sounds weird
20:41 cait oleonard: are you looking at the scores?
20:41 oleonard Yes, this seems to be the cause
20:41 cait oh cool - thx!
20:41 * cait was still setting up a 3.8.x :)
20:44 oleonard I gotta go, but I should be able to finish a patch tomorrow.
20:45 cait oleonard: thank you :)
20:45 cait have a nice evening
20:47 chris_n jcamins_away: iirc MariaDB enforces stricter SQL syntax than MySQL
20:48 jcamins_away chris_n: that's a good thing. :)
20:48 jcamins_away And your patch almost applies.
20:48 chris_n exactly
20:48 Guest5372 morning
20:48 chris_n it sure does not look good for MySQL based on the homework mtj sent along to the list
20:48 chris_n heya wizzyrea
20:48 wahanui well, wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
20:50 cait yay :)
20:50 cait hi wizzyrea :)
20:51 jcamins_away wizzyrea!
20:51 wahanui well, wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
20:51 wizzyrea jcamins!
20:51 wahanui jcamins is too young to be the President of the United States.  Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election.
20:51 cait wizzyrea: I am not sure I agree with you hving moved to another timezone, I was missing you this afternoon!
20:51 chris_n well, upgrading from Koha to went largely without incident
20:51 wizzyrea awwwwwwww
20:52 * jcamins_away is apparently a bit behind on the list of patches for 3.6.x.
20:52 wizzyrea it's ok, I'm still working on sorting out my computer her
20:52 wizzyrea here*
20:52 * wizzyrea hates unfamiliar keyboards.
20:52 jcamins_away wizzyrea: is your keyboard mushy?
20:52 * jcamins_away hates that.
20:53 wizzyrea no, it's not mushy. But it is quiet
20:53 jcamins_away Who wants to feel like they're typing in applesauce?
20:53 wizzyrea mmm applesauce
20:53 mtj chris_n, i imagine oracle's thinking was 'hey, those other guys are using our test-suite to make their software better - lets stop that'
20:53 chris_n oops... spoke too soon
20:53 jcamins_away chris_n: uh-oh?
20:53 chris_n yup
20:53 chris_n it blows up at
20:54 chris_n om, I'll post the error
20:54 pastebot "chris_n" at pasted "Updating database structure Up" (18 lines) at
20:54 chris_n not sure what all is wrong
20:54 jcamins_away I need a script that takes a version number and gives me the commit message for the patch responsible for the following line.
20:54 chris_n the db I started with has zero customizations
20:55 chris_n exactly
20:55 chris_n mtj: probably so
20:55 jcamins_away chris_n: a bugfix that was backported to 3.8.x?
20:55 jcamins_away Probably nothing to worry about.
20:55 * chris_n guesses updatedatabase is trying to due duplicate
20:56 chris_n except that it prevents a full upgrade
20:56 jcamins_away It prevents a full upgrade?
20:56 chris_n which is a blocker if it is true bug
20:57 jcamins_away Are you sure that updatedatabase didn't just time out at that point?
20:57 chris_n can't get past and on to
20:57 chris_n perhaps
20:57 chris_n I'll take a look tomorrow
20:57 jcamins_away My guess is if you leave it running overnight, it'll be done by morning.
20:57 chris_n web install won't let it run that long
20:58 chris_n it dies instantly
20:58 jcamins_away Oh.
20:58 jcamins_away Uh... that's a problem.
21:01 eythian hi
21:03 cait hi eythian
21:04 drojf hi eythian
21:05 cait hey drojf
21:07 chris_n the problem is the patch for 7951 made it into the latest 3.08
21:07 jcamins_away bug 7951
21:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7951 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, RESOLVED FIXED, Suspending holds needs a system preference
21:07 chris_n and updatedatabase tries to create the field again
21:07 chris_n when it should check for existence and act accordingly
21:07 jcamins_away But that shouldn't be a fatal error.
21:07 chris_n badly behaved
21:07 chris_n yes, one would think that
21:07 jcamins_away Unless you have DEBUG set to 1.
21:07 chris_n still digging
21:08 jcamins_away Do you?
21:08 chris_n ahh, I do as this is a dev box
21:08 chris_n good catch
21:08 jcamins_away :)
21:08 chris_n what should happen is an offer to continue
21:08 jcamins_away No, it should just keep going.
21:08 chris_n rather than an outright death
21:09 chris_n either way its a bugarooo
21:09 jcamins_away Agreed.
21:09 chris_n really updatedatabase should check for existence
21:09 jcamins_away Agreed.
21:09 chris_n that heads off a bunch of needless warnings, etc.
21:09 jcamins_away And I prefer INSERT IGNORE for sysprefs.
21:09 jcamins_away I should tell koha-devel that.
21:09 chris_n *nod*
21:10 chris_n and reject patches written otherwise :)
21:10 jcamins_away Right.
21:11 * chris_n brute forces it from the command line
21:12 chris_n I'll fix it tomorrow
21:29 cait jcamins_away: you should tell koha-devel that :P
21:29 jcamins_away cait: yes, I will.
21:29 jcamins_away Ooooh.
21:29 * jcamins_away has an inspiration.
21:30 jcamins_away This really seems like a Quality thing.
21:30 jcamins_away :P
21:31 jcamins_away On the other hand, there is also an argument for me being the one to change all the INSERTs to INSERT IGNOREs... with INSERT IGNORE people signing off are less likely to spot errors.
21:32 * jcamins_away will have to consider this.
21:34 cait jcamins_away:  :)
21:34 * cait is busy filing minor acq bugs while configuring her new installation
21:34 rangi its ansi compliant sql right?
21:35 rangi afaik it isnt
21:35 jcamins_away rangi: I believe so.
21:35 rangi hmm you sure, im pretty sure its a mysqlism
21:35 jcamins_away I thought it was INSERT UPDATE that was a MySQL extension.
21:35 jcamins_away Nope. I'm not sure.
21:36 rangi i may be misremembering
21:36 rangi we'll need to check that
21:36 jcamins_away The best option, of course, would be to use the add_syspref function.
21:36 rangi if its ansi sql, then all good
21:36 rangi yep
21:36 jcamins_away Which I previously suggested and got shot down over for some reason.
21:36 jcamins_away However, at that point I wasn't RM.
21:36 * jcamins_away rubs his hands together and cackles gleefully.
21:37 jcamins_away On second thought, forget INSERT IGNORE.
21:37 jcamins_away I am going to reject any INSERTs to the systempreferences table.
21:38 cait i don't care really, as long as we avoid people wondering about red error messages :)
21:39 eythian it would be nicer to avoid more of those "duplicate something something" messages.
21:39 eythian they look a bit scary
21:39 jcamins_away eythian: yeah, that's why I originally suggested using add_syspref.
21:40 eythian yeah, it seems reasonable.
21:41 mtj oh good news, my dev database is all innodb on maria, not aria
21:41 * jcamins_away heads home, where he will send an e-mail announcing the new syspref policy.
21:41 jcamins_away mtj: XtraDB, actually.
21:41 mtj yep, that too
22:08 drojf mtj: what version of mariadb are you using? 5.5?
22:09 mtj 5.5.27-MariaDB-mariadb1~squeeze
22:10 drojf thanks
22:19 eythian wahanui: patch workflow?
22:19 wahanui it has been said that patch workflow is at[…]nt-patch_Workflow
23:48 jcamins Ugh.
23:48 jcamins We need to find a better way to generate the help files, don't we?
23:58 wizzyrea ^^
23:58 wizzyrea yep

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