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| 01:04 |
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mtj |
jcamins_away, ping... |
| 01:04 |
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mtj |
what was yr patch was that fixed the annoying warns, from my PBP patch? |
| 01:22 |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: you QAed it. |
| 01:23 |
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mtj |
heh, yeah i did… |
| 01:23 |
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mtj |
i want to apply it, the warns in the log are bugging me :) |
| 01:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, those warns. |
| 01:26 |
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jcamins_away |
Lemme find it. |
| 01:26 |
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jcamins_away |
bug 8832 |
| 01:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8832 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , can't enter a tax rate on vendor or when ordering |
| 01:27 |
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jcamins_away |
Ummm... |
| 01:27 |
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jcamins_away |
bug 8823 |
| 01:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8823 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , CatalogModuleRelink Creates Multiple Links between Bib and Auth record ($9 RLIN) |
| 01:27 |
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jcamins_away |
WAit, no. |
| 01:27 |
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jcamins_away |
*Wait |
| 01:27 |
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jcamins_away |
I have no idea. |
| 01:28 |
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jcamins_away |
Bug 8829 |
| 01:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8829 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , can't import authorities |
| 01:32 |
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mtj |
hmm, is that actually your cat on teh keybored again, pretending to be you... :/ |
| 01:38 |
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jcamins_away |
lol |
| 01:38 |
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jcamins_away |
No, that last one was the bug. |
| 01:48 |
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eythian |
does Koha care about the case in cn_source? |
| 01:58 |
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mtj |
pass, tho convert to UPPER if poss, i think |
| 02:02 |
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eythian |
really? because it's lower in the classification sources admin screen. |
| 02:19 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 03:37 |
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eythian |
wahanui: Cory Doctorow |
| 03:37 |
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wahanui |
eythian: what? |
| 03:37 |
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eythian |
wahanui: Cory Doctorow is not a real Doctor. |
| 03:37 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 03:56 |
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mtompset |
Why did you teach wahanui that, eythian? |
| 03:56 |
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eythian |
It could be important one day. |
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Brooke_ |
0/ |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha! |
| 06:29 |
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magnuse |
eythian++ for thinking ahead :-) |
| 06:29 |
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eythian |
to be fair, it's more that dh-make-perl spits up a big warning :) |
| 06:31 |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 06:31 |
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wahanui |
que tal, alex_a |
| 06:31 |
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alex_a |
que tal, wahanui |
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wahanui |
hello, alex_a |
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* magnuse |
was thinking about teaching wahanui :-) |
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eythian |
magnuse: oh ah |
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julian_m |
hello |
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Brooke_ |
bonjour juian |
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magnuse |
hiya Brooke_ |
| 06:52 |
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Brooke_ |
:) |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:55 |
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Brooke_ |
hi reiveune |
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reiveune |
salut Brooke_ :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, everyone. What did eythian think ahead on? |
| 07:04 |
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mtompset |
Ah, copyright and permissions issues. |
| 07:04 |
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mtompset |
eythian++ # great attention to potential licensing issues. |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
| 07:04 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:04 |
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wahanui |
privet, gaetan_B |
| 07:05 |
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marcelr |
hi gaetan_B |
| 07:06 |
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magnuse |
cory doctorow? |
| 07:06 |
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wahanui |
i guess cory doctorow is not a real Doctor. |
| 07:06 |
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magnuse |
that's what i was thinking about :-) |
| 07:08 |
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mtompset |
Why were you thinking that, magnuse? |
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mtompset |
Greetings, marcelr gaetan_B magnuse |
| 07:09 |
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mtompset |
Salut, reiveune et sophie_m :) |
| 07:09 |
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reiveune |
salut mtompset :) |
| 07:09 |
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mtompset |
Sorry if I missed anyone. I'm not really paying too much attention. :) |
| 07:09 |
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reiveune |
haha |
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magnuse |
mtompset: cause the mind works in mysterious ways... |
| 07:12 |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
| 07:12 |
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magnuse |
kia ora drojf |
| 07:12 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf. Every time I see your name, I think dwarf. |
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francharb |
bonjour #koha |
| 07:13 |
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drojf |
hi magnuse and mtompset |
| 07:13 |
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mtompset |
magandang hapon po, francharb. ;) -- That was Tagalog for good afternoon <politeness marker>. :) |
| 07:22 |
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matts |
hi ! |
| 07:25 |
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| 07:32 |
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kf |
mtj: around? |
| 07:34 |
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drojf |
and a wondeful good morning to you too kf :P |
| 07:34 |
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kf |
heh |
| 07:34 |
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kf |
good morning #koha and drojf |
| 07:34 |
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kf |
:) |
| 07:34 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 07:35 |
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kf |
I thought I could catch mtj maybe on bug 8462 - I am worried about this change |
| 07:35 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8462 major, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , OpacHiddenItems and hidelostitems hide items, but query result count is off |
| 07:35 |
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kf |
making records suddenly reappear seems not good to me - if I didn't misunderstand |
| 07:36 |
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kf |
btw - numbers for koha in lib-web-cats are up from 1428 october 11 to 1750 today :) |
| 07:39 |
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drojf |
hmm that patch sure sounds wrong. i would be not amused if i relied on that feature and it suddenly stops working |
| 07:39 |
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rangi |
i agree |
| 07:40 |
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drojf |
hey rangi |
| 07:41 |
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rangi |
hey drojf |
| 07:42 |
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kf |
yep exactly |
| 07:42 |
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magnuse |
who will mark is failed qa? |
| 07:42 |
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kf |
drojf, rangi: maybe add a good/bad idea to the bug to get some more votes against? |
| 07:42 |
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kf |
I thought about marking in discussion |
| 07:42 |
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kf |
but that's why I was loking for mtj earlier |
| 07:43 |
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rangi |
reading the patch now |
| 07:43 |
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kf |
thx |
| 07:43 |
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rangi |
ah yes |
| 07:43 |
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rangi |
that will make things that were previously hidden now show |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
there marked it in discussion |
| 07:46 |
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rangi |
surely the count being wrong is far less of a problem than suddenly showing things that are supposed to be hidden |
| 07:46 |
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rangi |
imho anyway |
| 07:46 |
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wahanui |
imho is, like, in wizzyrea's humble opinion |
| 07:47 |
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kf |
I agree |
| 07:47 |
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kf |
I can understand the cound being a problem, but we should have thoguht about that before introducing the feature |
| 07:47 |
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kf |
as we didn't - we can't just rip it out now |
| 07:48 |
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kf |
ok, I have 250 bugs list mails ... I am going to mark them read without reading them, trusting that others did ... hopefully :) |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 07:50 |
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* magnuse |
did that to a thousand threads after the summer holiday and some procrastination |
| 07:51 |
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rangi |
(its been there since about feb) |
| 07:51 |
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rangi |
so yeah too late now |
| 07:51 |
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kf |
rangi: the feature? |
| 07:51 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it the feature is from the time biblios.net was still alive |
| 07:51 |
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rangi |
the change to hide the biblio |
| 07:51 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 07:53 |
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* kf |
nods |
| 07:53 |
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magnuse |
wahanui: forget the feature |
| 07:53 |
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wahanui |
magnuse: I forgot feature |
| 08:03 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf. |
| 08:32 |
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Brooke_ |
hi mtompset |
| 08:33 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Brooke_ |
| 08:48 |
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magnuse |
rangi: could it be possible to split the "Needs Signoff" part of the dashboard into enh and "real" bugs? guess we should be focussing on the bugs by now... |
| 08:51 |
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rangi |
yep can do |
| 08:51 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
there we go, its not showing enhancements now |
| 09:03 |
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rangi |
and 10 of them |
| 09:03 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 09:03 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
| 09:03 |
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magnuse |
still says "5 Oldest bugs" though ;-) |
| 09:04 |
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drojf |
it still says "5" |
| 09:04 |
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drojf |
heh |
| 09:04 |
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magnuse |
not any longer |
| 09:04 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 09:23 |
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| 09:23 |
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mtompset |
Finally. The internet came back. |
| 09:27 |
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drojf |
why would there be a google+1 script trying to load in my opac detail in master? |
| 09:32 |
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drojf |
SocialNetworks_enabled_by_default-- |
| 09:32 |
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drojf |
hi mtompset |
| 09:33 |
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mtompset |
social networks enabled by default? |
| 09:35 |
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rangi |
oh really? normally our rule is no new features on by default |
| 09:35 |
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drojf |
like paul_p said here http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=7470#c16 |
| 09:35 |
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huginn |
Bug 7470: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...) |
| 09:35 |
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drojf |
but it is on for me |
| 09:36 |
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rangi |
annoying |
| 09:37 |
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drojf |
yes. i would not want to go through all my sysprefs after an update, i would my system to work as before by default |
| 09:38 |
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drojf |
would want even |
| 09:38 |
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rangi |
yep |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
| 09:42 |
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drojf |
hi mveron :) |
| 09:42 |
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mveron |
hi drojf |
| 09:42 |
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rangi |
hi mveron |
| 09:43 |
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mveron |
...and hi rangi |
| 09:43 |
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mveron |
:-) |
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drojf |
magnuse: i tried bug 8793 and it looks like opac detail is somewhat screwed up for normarc? (not related to your patch it seems) |
| 09:55 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8793 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix materialTypeCode/typeOf008 icons for NORMARC XSLT |
| 09:58 |
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magnuse |
drojf: yeah, some things are floating to the right? it's on my list of things to look at... |
| 09:58 |
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drojf |
ok |
| 09:58 |
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drojf |
then i'll ignore that for the bug |
| 09:59 |
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magnuse |
thanks :-) |
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slef |
can someone set georgew latahlibrary.org on koha.lists.katipo to nomail please? |
| 10:19 |
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slef |
rangi: ^^ ? |
| 10:19 |
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wahanui |
^^ is, like, always wizzyrea's concern, weird stuff could happen |
| 10:21 |
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kf_mtg |
asleep i would think |
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slef |
USians, I just saw this web straw poll from a GfK UK website: "Which candidate do you hope wins America's presidential election?" Barack Obama 61%, Mitt Romney 8%, Someone else 6%, I don't care 25%. |
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slef |
pretty accurate reflection of sentiment over here... |
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mtompset |
Sadly, slef, those 6% are dreaming. :( |
| 11:50 |
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* magnuse |
would worry more about the 25% |
| 11:50 |
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drojf |
i thought they were supposed to vote for wikileaks :P |
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mtompset |
Why worry about the 25%? |
| 11:51 |
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mtompset |
Nice one, drojf. ;) |
| 11:51 |
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magnuse |
because they don't care? |
| 11:52 |
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mtompset |
Yes, but was the poll of UKians, or USians? My understanding was UKians. In which case, why would they care? |
| 11:52 |
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magnuse |
ah, i probably misunderstood then |
| 11:52 |
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magnuse |
gah |
| 11:52 |
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mtompset |
There's a chance I did too. |
| 11:52 |
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magnuse |
s/magnuse would worry more about the 25%// |
| 11:53 |
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mtompset |
Only slef can clarify... unless we can find the poll in question. |
| 11:55 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: around? |
| 11:55 |
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slef |
poll of UK |
| 11:56 |
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slef |
not sure the poll is public... I've a login for the site concerned |
| 11:57 |
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slef |
mtompset: well, the US can currently extradite any UK resident without much resistance. The Mutual(haha!) Legal Assistance Treaty seems to have made us the 51st state... and not like in the film. |
| 11:58 |
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mtompset |
I thought Canada was the 51st state. ;) |
| 11:59 |
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slef |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E[…]_2003#Controversy |
| 12:03 |
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fredericd |
jcamins: hi |
| 12:04 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: is there any chance you could attach a file with some good UNIMARC authorities to bug 8870? |
| 12:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8870 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , UNIMARC authorities search doesn't display properly information |
| 12:06 |
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fredericd |
I have to ask authorization. Or create some myself, which is another story |
| 12:07 |
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slef |
mtompset: Canada is the 49th county and 101st departement, isn't it? |
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mtompset |
Sorry, I don't get that reference, slef. |
| 12:08 |
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slef |
mtompset: suggesting it's part of both England and France ;) |
| 12:09 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: if you're able to that would be helpful. |
| 12:09 |
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mtompset |
Ah, well considering that the English and French both were parental countries, perhaps. ;) |
| 12:09 |
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mtompset |
Though, I don't think France would take Quebec back. |
| 12:10 |
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mtompset |
And I doubt Canada wishes to go back to either. |
| 12:11 |
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mtompset |
I think we did a good job building our national rep in the world wars. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
| 12:20 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard. :) |
| 12:27 |
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magnuse |
@get quote 123 |
| 12:27 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". |
| 12:27 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 12:27 |
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magnuse |
@quote get 123 |
| 12:27 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 12:27 |
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jcamins |
magnuse: uh-oh. What crazy thing have you just encountered? |
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magnuse |
none, i'm just preparing for the worst :-) |
| 12:28 |
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mtompset |
On a positive note, I have emailed back and forth with the LiveCD/DVD person about installation instructions. |
| 12:29 |
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mtompset |
I think he's understanding that there are multiple ways to install, and packages in best under Ubuntu. Though, perhaps I read too much into the email. |
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magnuse |
kia ora trea! |
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trea |
kia ora magnuse! |
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wizzyrea |
<time of day> |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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kf |
hi wizzyrea and oleonard :) |
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wizzyrea |
kf! <big hug> |
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kf |
yay! |
| 13:56 |
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kf |
<big hug back> |
| 13:56 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm sorry to have been so absent lately - I'll be back full force soon. :) |
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kf |
:) |
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* wajasu |
testing fines dedup script |
| 13:56 |
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kf |
excited? |
| 13:57 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
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wizzyrea |
terrified. |
| 13:57 |
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wizzyrea |
(but manageably so) |
| 13:58 |
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mtompset |
terrified? |
| 14:00 |
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wizzyrea |
it's a long story :) |
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mtompset |
As long as the story ends happily with you working full force on Koha. ;) |
| 14:12 |
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wajasu |
khall: your remove_dups.pl script for fines. i need guidance. 1) where should we put it? misc/migration_tools? 2) what should we call it? fix_accountlines_rmdupfines_bug8253.pl? it passes perlcritic, do we need copyright? pod? |
| 14:12 |
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wizzyrea |
that's the goal :) |
| 14:14 |
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khall |
wajasu, I had not planned for it to be commited to the codebase. I was thinking we could just make it available from bugzilla for those who need it. If you want it in the codebase, I can fix it up and submit it as a patch. |
| 14:19 |
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mtompset |
Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone. :) |
| 14:21 |
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wajasu |
khall: it will probably be handy for a vendor when they are in the midst of a migration and after the 1st nights run, dups! they can just run what is in the enviroment. without having to find and transport it to the environment. but ask rangi or someone else later. I'll signoff on the script as working now. |
| 14:22 |
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khall |
ok, I'll go ahead an convert it to a patch and submit it. |
| 14:23 |
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wajasu |
ok. might as well since i have this environment set up. and its easier to test it as part of the 8253 bug at the end. |
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wajasu |
khall: should that bug be targetting Version: rel_3_8 ? |
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wajasu |
thats what i'm testing against. |
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khall |
yeah, that makes sense |
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wajasu |
just rename it something more discernable. that will withstand being in the misc/migration_tools and not collide with future fines/accountlines scripts. |
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khall |
wajasu, patch submitted. I used your file name, but I put it in misc/maintenance |
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bye all |
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drojf |
magnuse: is there a diff of marc21 and normarc available somewhere? i suppose there are not too much differences? |
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wizzyrea |
iirc normarc is really close to marc21 |
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drojf |
but they must have some differences and i bet it's something cool. like a field to classify northern lights |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wajasu |
khall: the first patch for 8253, needs to be applied to master for folks going from <3.8 to master+. can you add that as well? or should we create a new bug targetting master? if we get the fix in for 3.10+ the dup removal script is not needed in those versions. |
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libsysguy |
yo slef you around? |
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libsysguy |
also wajasu, thanks for the later |
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libsysguy |
I actually figured out why I wasn't getting fines but seeing it in the logs |
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libsysguy |
grace days :-/ |
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magnuse |
drojf still around? |
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drojf |
yup |
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magnuse |
normarc is *mostly* a subset of marc21 |
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magnuse |
there are something like 9 fields in normarc that are not in marc21 |
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magnuse |
see here: http://normarc4koha.collib.info/nvsm/ |
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magnuse |
and there is nothing cool about it |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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magnuse |
oh yes, and some of the codes in 007 and 008 (or thereabouts) have different meaning |
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wajasu |
khall: i don't think we need another patch for 8253. i was able to apply it cleanly to master, and put a comment that someone needs to QA against master after 3.8.x |
| 17:05 |
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magnuse |
so 008 pos 6 = a might mean adults in marc21 and children in normarc - that sort of thing |
| 17:06 |
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seneca |
Howdy all - anyone able to help me with an upgrade dilemma? |
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drojf |
magnuse: thanks, i'll have a look. and i bet i find something cool ;) |
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oleonard |
seneca: Not unless you ask your question ;) |
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seneca |
I initially used the VM that was available at one point, and have been using git to upgrade it periodically |
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seneca |
it's at 3.4.4 now |
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seneca |
went to do an upgrade today, using the same process/steps as I have before, and it seems that it loses all the perl modules |
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magnuse |
drojf: good luck! :-) |
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drojf |
thanks :) |
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slef |
libsysguy: ? |
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* magnuse |
saw the full moon and some northern lights a couple nights ago |
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libsysguy |
hey I had a question about you're reply do the devel list |
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libsysguy |
as far as passing xml around |
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* slef |
hides |
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libsysguy |
will it be all on the same domain |
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* drojf |
is jealous. northern lights hide from me |
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libsysguy |
or will it be cross domain |
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seneca |
After the last "git checkout master" I get error messages in the opac regarding missing modules and relates |
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libsysguy |
you may not know, I don't |
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slef |
libsysguy: domain in which sense? |
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libsysguy |
like from website.library.org to catalog.library.org |
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seneca |
koha_perl_deps claims that it needs every module...lists about 20 of them |
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drojf |
seneca: you are upgrading a 3.4.4 in git to master? |
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seneca |
yeah |
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seneca |
HOWEVER... |
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drojf |
i would assume that there may be 20 new dependencies since 3.4.4 |
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seneca |
I'm wondering if at this point it would be better to roll out a new debian server and transfer koha over to it (install via apt, mv over the db) |
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drojf |
yes it would |
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drojf |
if that is a production system |
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seneca |
it is |
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seneca |
the VM was initially for a test... |
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seneca |
I guess when it worked, it became the production server |
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drojf |
heh |
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wajasu |
should he read up on koha-common packages? |
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drojf |
i would set up a debian server, install packages for 3.8.5, import data and run that script to remove items (whatever it is called) |
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slef |
libsysguy: I'm confused by the question. |
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libsysguy |
slef, the reason I bring it up is because doing cross domain calls is…difficult…with XML |
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libsysguy |
but json is easy |
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slef |
libsysguy: surely it's up to whoever configures things? |
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seneca |
script to remove items? |
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slef |
libsysguy: XML and json are just file formats. They don |
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slef |
libsysguy: XML and json are just file formats. They don't call anything. |
| 17:14 |
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libsysguy |
right but the REST api that is passing them back and fourth does |
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seneca |
I've read up on the debian install a bit, saw that "koha-common" is recommended over "koha" |
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slef |
libsysguy: the API just listens and acts on them. I think you're describing the problems javascript has accessing other domains? |
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drojf |
seneca: items are stored diffently in newer versions. you don't throw them away, you just put them somewhere else. i forget whether that is needed from 3.2 to 3.4 or from 3.4 to >3.4 |
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libsysguy |
yeah that |
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wahanui |
well, yeah that is fine as it is |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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drojf |
seneca: but you will be told about it when installing packages |
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slef |
libsysguy: well, if you want to call it cross-domain, either set them up on the same domain, ReverseProxy the API into the domain serving the javascript or use something better than javascript. ;-) |
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seneca |
I will read ay messages then. Thanks for the tip. |
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slef |
libsysguy: or use JSON and the tricks. |
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libsysguy |
mmm json tricks |
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libsysguy |
yup so you got it |
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slef |
libsysguy: hang on, how do you call cross-domain with json? (I could ask our jquery guru, but you're here now ;*) ) |
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libsysguy |
excellent |
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libsysguy |
well you pass json |
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libsysguy |
like you said above |
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seneca |
I've set up a few cronjobs on the VM installation for running scripts for late notices, and other things... will those need to be brought over to the new server, or do the apt packages handle that stuff now? |
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slef |
oh, callbacks? |
| 17:16 |
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libsysguy |
the same way you'd pass xml |
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libsysguy |
yeah |
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slef |
nah, I'd prefer not to use callbacks... or javascript, for that matter. ;-) |
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libsysguy |
i might have misread that thread |
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libsysguy |
thats what I get for reading more than one email at once :p |
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slef |
dunno - it's a related problem |
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libsysguy |
they are trying to develop a REST-ful service for Koha right? |
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libsysguy |
so that Drupal can make calls? |
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slef |
yeah, but drupal is PHP, so the javascript same-domain restriction doesn't matter if it's running drupalside |
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slef |
AFAIK |
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libsysguy |
now im confused |
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seneca |
how much of a pain is it to move an installation to another server? export/import the db and what else? |
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libsysguy |
the same domain restriction still exists even on other sub domains |
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libsysguy |
is that what you're getting at? |
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slef |
seneca: grab the /etc/koha or /etc/koha/sites/NAME for good measure IMO |
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slef |
libsysguy: no. I'm saying that there is no domain restriction for PHP code like drupal. |
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libsysguy |
so how are you getting today data to and from drupal |
| 17:21 |
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seneca |
ok - just in case I need to reference an old config? |
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libsysguy |
to koha |
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wajasu |
seneca: you will need to do crontab -l for your cronjobs, and set them up as needed in the new VM. read up on bugs on your target version, to see if they affect you, and work toward a version that makes sense. |
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* libsysguy |
is genuinely interested and not trying to be a pain |
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libsysguy |
i promise |
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slef |
libsysguy: I think you should ask the biblibrans how it works. I don't do much with drupal any more. |
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libsysguy |
heh i like that, biblibrains |
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slef |
libsysguy: I've done more with the svc and SRU/SRW |
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libsysguy |
gotcha |
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seneca |
thanks wajasu |
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wajasu |
seneca: yes you can dump the db and load it. the webinstaller will upgrade accordingly. |
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libsysguy |
yeah I have 0 exp there |
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slef |
wahanui: svc? |
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wahanui |
i don't know, slef |
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slef |
wahanui: svc API? |
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wahanui |
somebody said svc API was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ha_/svc/_HTTP_API |
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libsysguy |
ok well thanks for entertaining my wandering thoughts slef :) |
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slef |
wahanui: SRU? |
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wahanui |
SRU is Search/Retrieval via URL or http://www.loc.gov/standards/sru/ or SRU Record Update |
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slef |
wahanui: you are not the most helpful for SRU |
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wahanui |
...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.... |
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slef |
libsysguy: no worries. Maybe you'll make something surprising with this info. |
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libsysguy |
heh here's to hoping |
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jcamins_away |
gmcharlt: if you wanted to take a look at the patch on bug 8665, it would be appreciated. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8665 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , DOM indexing fails to index some bib records |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins_away: at first glance, looks like on the right track, but what's this admixture of the 450 and index_heading_conditional stuff tag doing in the patch? |
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jcamins_away |
gmcharlt: I have no idea... all I did was regenerate the Zebra defs. |
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jcamins_away |
Oh. |
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jcamins_away |
I know what it is. |
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jcamins_away |
I added that for authorities. |
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jcamins_away |
No changes to the bib indexing, so I didn't regenerate biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl. |
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jcamins_away |
When I went back and made one-line changes to the bib indexing configuration, it required me to regenerate. |
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* oleonard |
thought Little Elm Public Library must be in Ohio because their logo is shaped like our state http://www.littleelmlibrary.or[…]ages/lel_logo.gif |
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wajasu |
khall: if 8253 gets applied to master, 8112 won't be needed, correct? so why don't we comment about that at the bottom of 8253 and possibly retire this patch. what do you think? |
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wajasu |
khall: so we won't need to test/qa 8112, which seems to be an earlier bandaid. |
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khall |
wajasu, I don't think 8112 is related. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7986' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee5540e4e1b48704d> / Bug 7986: Followup: Hide the export link unless sysprefs are set <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0d60511aec8b356a1> / Bug 6716: Update biblioitems tables <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi |
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khall |
nope, I'm wrong |
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khall |
wajasu, why don't you just mark it as a duplicate of 8253, since that will render this bug obsolete |
| 18:15 |
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wajasu |
ok. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #868 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #864 2 days 2 hr ago) |
| 18:41 |
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nengard |
okay ? the manual has gotten too big to save ? I need a more powerful app for writing/editing it becuase I kinda need it to dave and I need it to be one file if we're giong to link from section to section ?. ideas for a wysiwyg docbook editor that will run on Mac? |
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* oleonard |
knows not of docbook editors |
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wajasu |
nengard: see if http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac is useful. |
| 18:48 |
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wajasu |
or http://dblatex.sourceforge.net/ http://www.macports.org/ports.[…]me&substr=dblatex |
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tcohen |
LyX++ |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: different package. |
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oleonard |
Quick Bootstrap OPAC test: http://screencast.com/t/AjAzTefB Minimal style, but following current layout |
| 19:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #868: FIXED in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/868/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 6716 - Fix alt contact field documentation |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 6716: Update biblioitems tables |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 7986: Followup: Hide the export link unless sysprefs are set |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, P3, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation |
| 19:36 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7986 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export issues |
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rangi |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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nengard |
looks good oleonard |
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wizzyrea |
mornin |
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oleonard |
Not much to see, but it's nice to get a gauge on how difficult it is to get it started. |
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nengard |
yeah |
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wizzyrea |
I like that oleonard |
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wizzyrea |
the cart with a briefcase is a bit odd |
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wizzyrea |
lol. :) |
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oleonard |
Yeah, just playing around with Bootstrap default icons |
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oleonard |
They don't have a cart :P |
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nengard |
well i never liked it being a cart anyway :) |
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mtj |
jcamins_away, lol ah yep :) |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
you might want to follow that up :) |
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rangi |
ah eythian already did |
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mtj |
...and then me |
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mtj |
oleonard++ nice themage ^^ |
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oleonard |
mtj: I hope you'll weigh in on the discussion I'm trying to start on the devel list |
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mtj |
yep, absolutely |
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oleonard |
mtj: How far did you get with your OPAC Bootstrap work? |
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mtj |
hmm, only as far as i showed you some weeks(months?) ago |
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oleonard |
Were you just testing one page? |
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* oleonard |
has only worked on the logic and structure of the main page so far |
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mtj |
i was fiddling with adding the mutli theme stuff -> http://dev1.kohaaloha.com/cgi-[…]-search.pl?q=love |
| 20:05 |
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mtj |
…from the 'preview' tab, up top |
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mtj |
then i put it on hold (until after the 3.10 release) |
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mtj |
yeah, i was just testing (main, search, details) pages, in opac |
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oleonard |
It looks really good |
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mtj |
i played a little with the layout, just for fun - but i was really focusing on the 'dynamic' css-switching thing |
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mtj |
… and thanks! :) |
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oleonard |
The grid and responsive layout are important issues to me |
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jcamins_away |
responsive_layout++ |
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cait |
oleonard: looks nice, very clean |
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oleonard |
Just trying to start from scratch with regard to the style, not trying to push the minimal design |
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mtj |
oleonard, yeah, i agree |
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cait |
:) cleaned up css files :) |
| 20:16 |
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oleonard |
And maybe we even need to agree on a plan for requiring some kind of CSS-tidy and/or minimization |
| 20:17 |
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rangi |
yep |
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jcamins_away |
What's too bad is that there's no way to figure out easily which CSS styles are just not used at all anymore. |
| 20:17 |
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rangi |
you'd think there would be a plugin for that |
| 20:17 |
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jcamins_away |
I feel like there are probably large portions of opac.css that are essentially no-ops. |
| 20:18 |
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rangi |
could be |
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rangi |
however our css is pretty tiny, in the scheme of things |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, I had in mind more making it easier to maintain. |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
and with a cache header, is only fetched once |
| 20:19 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]yles-in-a-website |
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rangi |
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-[…]ust-me-selectors/ |
| 20:20 |
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rangi |
done :) |
| 20:20 |
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oleonard |
Yeah I've tried that addon before... trouble is it's hard to use across multiple pages |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
luckily there arent that many pages in the opac |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: I tried that, but it doesn't seem to be possible to make it keep track across an entire site. |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
no, but thats what a print out is for |
| 20:21 |
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rangi |
print out the unused styles on the first page |
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rangi |
then look at the others, cross out any that are now used, its gonna be annoying to do, but doable |
| 20:22 |
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oleonard |
Or you could just start over from scratch like I'm proposing :) |
| 20:22 |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
working code will win, i mean warning people you are thinking about working on something is perfect, but waiting for consensus before begininning isn't ;) |
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oleonard |
Well I'm beginning, but I want to do it openly because I think the CCSR theme could've been done better with wider input |
| 20:24 |
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rangi |
yup |
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oleonard |
...and I haven't been in the opac-customization game in a while, so those issues aren't fresh in my mind |
| 20:25 |
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rangi |
true |
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* jcamins_away |
is definitely going to consider his work on rebasing the CCSR theme time well-spent if it results in people thinking about OPAC usability. |
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jcamins_away |
:) |
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rangi |
my main thing that would make life easier for customisation |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
a class or an id on everything ;) |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
thats what the designers here complain about |
| 20:26 |
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rangi |
its getting better all the time, but there are still somethings you have to resort to jquery to do, becuase you cant select them with css |
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mtj |
haay, have folks spotted this yet -> http://csslint.net/ |
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mtj |
https://github.com/stubbornell[…]nd-line-interface |
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oleonard |
"Don't use IDs in selectors?!" |
| 20:31 |
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oleonard |
Uh-wha? |
| 20:32 |
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oleonard |
And on that high note, oleonard out. |
| 20:32 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 20:32 |
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cait |
bye oleonard :) |
| 20:32 |
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cait |
hah, was fast enough :) |
| 20:33 |
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wajasu |
rangi: please review what khall an i did today for bug 8253. my changing it for rel_3_8 with a request to test for master, and specifying a duplicate bug. etc |
| 20:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , fix fine doubling, when upgrading from 3.6 to 3.8 (or later) |
| 20:33 |
|
mtj |
… and the follow-up -> http://mattwilcox.net/archive/entry/id/1054/ |
| 20:36 |
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rangi |
looks fine to me, just needs a qa person to check it, and then im happy to push to 3.8 |
| 20:36 |
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wajasu |
great |
| 20:38 |
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rangi |
since i helped author it, i do want someone else to test it (i have used it in production though and it works) |
| 20:40 |
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drojf |
are the XSLT stylesheets supposed to be left like they are unless there are errors (and further changes are done locally only) or should we submit patches for missing fields? i just added marc21 field 511 to mine and wonder if i'm supposed to submit a patch |
| 20:41 |
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cait |
drojf: I think you could submit a patch |
| 20:41 |
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rangi |
i lean towards submitting patchs |
| 20:41 |
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cait |
@marc 511 |
| 20:41 |
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huginn |
cait: The names of the participants, players, narrators, presenters, or performers. (Repeatable) [a,6,8] |
| 20:41 |
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cait |
ah, sounds good :) |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
good night all |
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| 21:02 |
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wajasu |
rangi: on bug 8849, the perlcritic patch. do you think it was errantly attached to 8849? maybe after a patch was posted, bugzilla might have forwarded to the next one to fix, and he attached the perlcritic fix? its for Account.pm which 8849 doesn't address. |
| 21:02 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8849 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Error log generated when not a demo system |
| 21:04 |
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rangi |
yep looks liek wrong bug |
| 21:06 |
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wajasu |
and the one he references 8739 is pushed to stable. i could reattach it to 8739. |
| 21:07 |
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wajasu |
or another bug that touches Account.pm |
| 21:07 |
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wajasu |
and this is for 3.8 |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
id just ask him |
| 21:10 |
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wajasu |
fredericd: is that followup perlcritic bug on 8849 misplaced? was it meant for 8739? if so maybe you can move it to some other bug that touches Account.pm |
| 21:11 |
|
seneca |
OK...feeling kinda dumb.... I just installed koha in debian via koha-common and koha-create... how do I get to the admin site? heading to the IP of the new server gives me the "maintenance" page |
| 21:11 |
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wizzyrea |
ip:8080 |
| 21:11 |
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wizzyrea |
? |
| 21:11 |
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seneca |
that's what I thought... |
| 21:11 |
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rangi |
it wont be that |
| 21:11 |
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seneca |
nothing answering at that port... |
| 21:12 |
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rangi |
unless you told it to be when you set up the file before running koha-create |
| 21:12 |
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seneca |
in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf? |
| 21:13 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 21:13 |
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seneca |
Ah. I was following this: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tep:_Install_Koha |
| 21:13 |
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wajasu |
at least you can use koha-remove <site-name> fairly easily. |
| 21:13 |
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rangi |
can you paste it into paste.koha-community.org |
| 21:13 |
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seneca |
but it seemed to me like that wasn't enough info... |
| 21:13 |
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rangi |
packages? |
| 21:13 |
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wahanui |
i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 21:14 |
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seneca |
so I'll need to remove this instance, fix the file, then create an instance again |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
depends |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
can you paste what is in the file first |
| 21:14 |
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seneca |
yeah |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ial_Configuration |
| 21:15 |
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rangi |
if you arent doing name based hosting you will need to set the INTRAPORT to something |
| 21:15 |
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seneca |
http://pastebin.com/ghNsC6L3 |
| 21:15 |
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seneca |
this will be the only thing running on this server (koha, and its related apache, etc.) |
| 21:16 |
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rangi |
i usually just do name based hosting, but if you want to use ports, you have 2 options |
| 21:16 |
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rangi |
you can edit that file |
| 21:16 |
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rangi |
and remove/create |
| 21:16 |
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rangi |
or you can edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/instancename |
| 21:16 |
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rangi |
and make the intranet listen on port 8080 |
| 21:17 |
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seneca |
by "name-based" do you mean koha=opac and koha/admin=admin? |
| 21:17 |
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rangi |
maybe, but it could be anything |
| 21:17 |
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seneca |
but that's what you mean, and not ":port" right? |
| 21:17 |
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seneca |
just trying to make sure I got it |
| 21:17 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 21:17 |
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seneca |
hah |
| 21:18 |
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wajasu |
is the name based hosting where the apache server chooses the opc or admin app based on the URL? |
| 21:18 |
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seneca |
that emoticon-ed on me... looks funny |
| 21:18 |
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rangi |
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2[…]s/name-based.html |
| 21:18 |
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seneca |
is there a recommendation for name-based or ports? |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
its up to you |
| 21:19 |
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seneca |
our original koha server (this is a replacement) used ports, but it is OLD |
| 21:19 |
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seneca |
ok |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
if you have dns |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
id use names |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
they are easier to remember |
| 21:19 |
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seneca |
heh |
| 21:19 |
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seneca |
yeah, but THEN I'd have to go fix all my bookmarks ;P |
| 21:21 |
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seneca |
ok, so if I wanted to do name-based, say lib.domain.com=opac and admin.domain.com=admin, do I need to edit the file and recreate? |
| 21:21 |
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rangi |
you can |
| 21:21 |
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seneca |
or can I just go edit the apache configs? |
| 21:21 |
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rangi |
or you can just edit the apcache configs |
| 21:21 |
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seneca |
heh |
| 21:21 |
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seneca |
awesome |
| 21:21 |
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seneca |
thanks! |
| 21:22 |
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wajasu |
i see. you need the DNS setup to differentiate. |
| 21:23 |
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drojf |
dear sir, does koha run on this? http://www.sparrowos.com/ |
| 21:23 |
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rangi |
i bet it does |
| 21:23 |
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rangi |
if it can run perl |
| 21:24 |
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wajasu |
i run that for my DNS server |
| 21:24 |
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wajasu |
;) |
| 21:24 |
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rangi |
however not being networked means it wont be that useful :) |
| 21:24 |
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drojf |
rangi: i'd appreciate a video tutorial on how to set it up :P |
| 21:25 |
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rangi |
thats not demanding enough :) |
| 21:25 |
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rangi |
provide me a video tutorial! |
| 21:26 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, you expressed appreciation |
| 21:26 |
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wizzyrea |
that's a no no |
| 21:26 |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
| 21:26 |
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wizzyrea |
j/k |
| 21:26 |
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drojf |
lol |
| 21:28 |
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drojf |
it's awfully quiet on the livecd front |
| 21:30 |
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| 21:39 |
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seneca |
hey rangi, to start with I altered the apache config so that Intranet has <VirtualHost *:8080> and restarted apache, but I'm still not getting a response on that port, oddly. Anything special I need to do for koha? |
| 21:39 |
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seneca |
FYI: I've not yet run the web installer yet... that's what I'm trying to get to so that I can finish the setup |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
check ports.conf |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
make sure it has a Listen 8080 |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
line |
| 21:41 |
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seneca |
ah, that would do it, wouldn't it. sorry about that. I bet that's it |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
no worries, easy to miss |
| 21:41 |
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wizzyrea |
i've done that. |
| 21:42 |
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seneca |
been a while since I configured apache... :) |
| 21:47 |
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seneca |
My guess is no, but if I change database names and users from the default (koha_koha) will it cause me pain when I go to upgrade the server? |
| 21:48 |
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rangi |
yes |
| 21:48 |
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rangi |
dont do that |
| 21:48 |
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seneca |
ha |
| 21:48 |
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seneca |
oki |
| 21:49 |
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eythian |
actually, it shouldn't. All the tools should use the database in the config. That said, I've never done it. |
| 21:52 |
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rangi |
hmm true |
| 21:52 |
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rangi |
so, maybe :) |
| 21:52 |
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eythian |
try it, and if something breaks, make a patch ;) |
| 21:52 |
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seneca |
hehe |
| 21:54 |
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| 21:58 |
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drojf |
can i get local cover images into koha together with my records somehow with bulkmarcimport.pl? |
| 21:58 |
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jcamins_away |
drojf: no, though that'd be pretty cool. |
| 21:58 |
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rangi |
it sure would |
| 22:02 |
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seneca |
if I had an sql dump from version 3.4 and wanted to import it into my newly created install, what's the recommended way to do that? |
| 22:03 |
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jcamins |
Myshkin is currently trying to get at the little container of change I keep on my desk. |
| 22:03 |
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jcamins |
No, excuse me. He's gotten bored. He's trying to make a phone call. |
| 22:03 |
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jcamins |
seneca: you used packages, yes? |
| 22:03 |
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seneca |
yeah, debian koha-common |
| 22:03 |
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jcamins |
Good. |
| 22:04 |
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jcamins |
You created an instance? |
| 22:04 |
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seneca |
yep |
| 22:04 |
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jcamins |
You do not have any data in it? |
| 22:04 |
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seneca |
right |
| 22:04 |
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jcamins |
Good. |
| 22:05 |
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jcamins |
I think you can just do `sudo koha-mysql instancename < sqlfile` |
| 22:05 |
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seneca |
nifty! |
| 22:05 |
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jcamins |
However, I always get confused about sudo and redirection, so that might not work. |
| 22:05 |
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seneca |
I'll give it a try |
| 22:05 |
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rangi |
that will work |
| 22:06 |
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seneca |
ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 3143: Can't create table 'koha_koha.letter' (errno: 150) |
| 22:06 |
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seneca |
mean anything to anyone? |
| 22:07 |
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seneca |
it worked for a while then gave that and exited |
| 22:07 |
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jcamins |
Cool. sudo works with redirected input, just not redirected output? |
| 22:07 |
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eythian |
seneca: there's something about the letter table that is problematic |
| 22:07 |
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seneca |
what is the letter table? |
| 22:07 |
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eythian |
it's just a table called letter |
| 22:07 |
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seneca |
well alright. does it hold anything? |
| 22:07 |
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eythian |
I fix it by deleting everything |
| 22:08 |
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seneca |
deleting everything? |
| 22:08 |
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eythian |
you're importing a dump right, so you can delete everything in the database safely? |
| 22:08 |
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jcamins |
eythian: sounds like a bug. |
| 22:09 |
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eythian |
jcamins: it is, but I've never actually pinned down where it comes from. |
| 22:09 |
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seneca |
oh, you mean like drop all tables in the new db and import the dump? |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
its a foreign key issue |
| 22:09 |
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eythian |
jup |
| 22:09 |
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rangi |
you can either delete everything |
| 22:09 |
|
rangi |
or |
| 22:10 |
|
rangi |
edit you dump file |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
and put |
| 22:10 |
|
pastebot |
"eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "script to delete everything from a database" (55 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/215 |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
SET foreign_check_keys=0 |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
then turn it back on after its created |
| 22:11 |
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eythian |
I use that script, it also ensures there are no stray tables hanging around. |
| 22:12 |
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seneca |
do I need to run that script from someplace specific? |
| 22:12 |
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seneca |
oh... no. I bet I need to export some path stuff |
| 22:13 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 22:13 |
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eythian |
you need to export KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB |
| 22:13 |
|
* eythian |
really needs to write a koha-shell command do take care of this |
| 22:13 |
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eythian |
*to |
| 22:14 |
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seneca |
anyone know where the PERL5LIB lives by default in new debian+koha installs? ;) |
| 22:14 |
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eythian |
/usr/share/koha/lib off the top of my head |
| 22:14 |
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eythian |
yep, that |
| 22:14 |
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wahanui |
somebody said yep, that was what I did. I had been pulling from HEAD and wondered after I did this if it would roll me back to 3.2.x |
| 22:15 |
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seneca |
nice |
| 22:15 |
|
seneca |
thanks |
| 22:16 |
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seneca |
how's your script know which db to use? |
| 22:17 |
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eythian |
it takes it from the KOHA_CONF you specify |
| 22:17 |
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seneca |
ah |
| 22:17 |
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seneca |
what's the syntax? I see the "--delete-everything"... |
| 22:18 |
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eythian |
that's it |
| 22:18 |
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seneca |
oh, ok |
| 22:18 |
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eythian |
it's very simple, also fairly dangerous |
| 22:19 |
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seneca |
heh |
| 22:19 |
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rangi |
heh i was looking for stuff about dbix::class and found my own blogpost |
| 22:19 |
|
rangi |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]ixclass-and-koha/ |
| 22:19 |
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seneca |
heh |
| 22:20 |
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seneca |
once I delete everything, I can koha-mysql the dump back in? |
| 22:20 |
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eythian |
that's right |
| 22:20 |
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wahanui |
I know. |
| 22:21 |
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jcamins |
Cool! |
| 22:21 |
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eythian |
? |
| 22:22 |
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jcamins |
eythian: rangi's blog post. |
| 22:22 |
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eythian |
ah |
| 22:22 |
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seneca |
so there was no schema change from 3.4 to 3.8, eh? |
| 22:23 |
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jcamins |
seneca: there is, but that's what koha-upgrade-schema does. |
| 22:23 |
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seneca |
should I run that after the dump? |
| 22:23 |
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eythian |
you can |
| 22:23 |
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jcamins |
After you've finished loading it. |
| 22:24 |
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eythian |
if you don't, the staff interface will do it for you |
| 22:24 |
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seneca |
oh |
| 22:24 |
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seneca |
cool |
| 22:24 |
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seneca |
very slick ;) |
| 22:24 |
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jcamins |
But if you let the staff interface do it for you, you won't be able to tell when it's finished. |
| 22:24 |
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seneca |
ah |
| 22:24 |
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eythian |
yeah, that upgrade can take a while |
| 22:24 |
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seneca |
well ok |
| 22:24 |
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eythian |
(sometimes, depends on your data) |
| 22:24 |
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seneca |
I'll do it myself (said like a pouty little kid) |
| 22:25 |
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seneca |
is there special syntax for the upgrade script? |
| 22:25 |
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seneca |
does it just use the KOHA_CONF as well? |
| 22:25 |
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jcamins |
sudo koha-upgrade-schema koha |
| 22:25 |
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eythian |
just give it the name of the instance |
| 22:25 |
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seneca |
got it |
| 22:26 |
|
seneca |
woah |
| 22:26 |
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seneca |
that was actually really quick |
| 22:26 |
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seneca |
but we're tiny |
| 22:26 |
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jcamins |
seneca: how tiny is tiny? |
| 22:26 |
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seneca |
prob about 20k items |
| 22:26 |
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jcamins |
I found the upgrade from 3.6 to 3.8 took painfully long. |
| 22:26 |
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eythian |
it's mostly if you have a huge issue history that it takes time |
| 22:26 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 22:26 |
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jcamins |
That'd be why. |
| 22:26 |
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seneca |
heh |
| 22:27 |
|
seneca |
small independent school in Ohio |
| 22:28 |
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jcamins |
Why does it look like there is going to be a tornado? |
| 22:28 |
|
jcamins |
I live in New York City... not exactly tornado central. |
| 22:29 |
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eythian |
jcamins: there's going to be a tornado. |
| 22:29 |
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seneca |
hmm... |
| 22:29 |
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seneca |
well, all my patrons are there |
| 22:29 |
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jcamins |
Other than this summer, when we've had... five? |
| 22:29 |
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jcamins |
seneca: tell them to get indoors, it looks like a tornado. |
| 22:29 |
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seneca |
no items, it seems |
| 22:29 |
|
seneca |
a tornado? |
| 22:29 |
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seneca |
where? |
| 22:30 |
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eythian |
seneca: you may have to rebuild zebra |
| 22:30 |
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jcamins |
Outside. In New York. |
| 22:30 |
|
seneca |
ah |
| 22:30 |
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jcamins |
(city) |
| 22:30 |
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eythian |
sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f koha |
| 22:30 |
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seneca |
yeah, don't mess with tornados |
| 22:30 |
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jcamins |
No tornado warning, though. |
| 22:30 |
|
seneca |
they always win |
| 22:30 |
|
seneca |
thanks eythian |
| 22:31 |
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seneca |
(and everyone else) |
| 22:31 |
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eythian |
we had a severe wind warning today, but that just means it's a day that ends in 'y' really. |
| 22:31 |
|
eythian |
sweet as |
| 22:32 |
|
seneca |
I asked this earlier today, but just to be sure - is it true that I will have to copy over all my koha script-related cronjobs from the old server? |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
no |
| 22:32 |
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jcamins |
What cronjobs? |
| 22:32 |
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wahanui |
cronjobs are essential |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
but you will want to look at |
| 22:32 |
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eythian |
the packages do all that for you |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
/etc/cron.d/koha-common |
| 22:32 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it /etc/cron.d/koha-common is where the indexing lives |
| 22:32 |
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seneca |
like rebuilding zebra, overdue notices, holds, etc |
| 22:32 |
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jcamins |
If they're the cronjobs that Koha provides, no. |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
cron.daily/ |
| 22:32 |
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rangi |
cron.hourly |
| 22:32 |
|
rangi |
too |
| 22:33 |
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jcamins |
If you wrote custom scripts, they won't be in the packages. |
| 22:33 |
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rangi |
check the koha-common in there |
| 22:33 |
|
rangi |
make sure all the jobs you want to run are going to be run |
| 22:33 |
|
rangi |
also |
| 22:33 |
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seneca |
awesome |
| 22:33 |
|
rangi |
your machine wont send any email |
| 22:33 |
|
seneca |
there's some great polish on the latest version of koha! |
| 22:33 |
|
rangi |
until you do koha-email-enable |
| 22:33 |
|
seneca |
kudos developers! |
| 22:33 |
|
seneca |
I did read that, thanks |
| 22:34 |
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seneca |
22383 records from my zebra rebuild, just to be exact |
| 22:34 |
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eythian |
cool |
| 22:36 |
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seneca |
we use ldap as well... any changes in that config syntax? |
| 22:37 |
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eythian |
don't think so |
| 22:39 |
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seneca |
sweet! copy/paste of the ldap config works great |
| 22:40 |
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eythian |
awaesome :) |
| 22:40 |
|
eythian |
-a |
| 22:41 |
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drojf |
waesome? |
| 22:41 |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
| 22:41 |
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eythian |
yeah, get out of here drojf ;) |
| 22:52 |
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seneca |
I'm assuming postfix should be working before I try to have koha send email... |
| 22:52 |
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eythian |
it's probably a good idea, yes |
| 22:53 |
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seneca |
doh! ;) |
| 22:57 |
|
seneca |
there we go... |
| 22:57 |
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seneca |
and I think I'm done... |
| 22:57 |
|
seneca |
db moved, cronjobs set, postfix works, email enabled, ldap set up... |
| 22:57 |
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seneca |
I'm sure the librarian will tell me what I missed tomorrow... ;) |
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seneca |
and I shall happily help her, as she is my wife! |
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seneca |
thanks again everyone! |
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eythian |
heh |
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eythian |
no worries |
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seneca |
koha's community wins again |
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eythian |
:) |
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