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eythian |
Waylon_AFK: they'll be around the whole day I'd think |
| 00:03 |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
| 00:03 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 27.0°C (7:00 AM PHT on September 24, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
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Waylon-android |
woot, at Lianz exhibitors halk, met Chris |
| 01:22 |
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Waylon-android |
mibbit not refreshing cant see anyone talking... |
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Waylon |
now can... different browser |
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Waylon_AFK |
back |
| 03:56 |
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Waylon |
Ah, got asked to leave. about 2... took this long to get back. |
| 03:57 |
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eythian |
oh, you need to be registered to be in the exhibition area? |
| 03:57 |
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Waylon |
yes eythian ... i think i need to get a bike sooner than later. |
| 03:57 |
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eythian |
:) |
| 03:58 |
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Waylon |
ah... Im thinking yes.. though this was after the signal for the next series of talks. |
| 03:58 |
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Waylon |
so... it was much easier to spot the non-conferencees. |
| 03:58 |
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eythian |
yeah, it would be |
| 03:58 |
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Waylon |
which was .. probably just me... though i did spot a palmerston north library person.. and i don't think they had a delegate card either. |
| 03:59 |
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Waylon |
she left sorta about hte same time I did. |
| 03:59 |
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Waylon |
she... drove past me. |
| 04:00 |
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* Waylon |
knows annoyance, hobbling along using a umbrella as walking stick, when people just drive on by, from same venue.. ah well. |
| 04:01 |
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eythian |
probably assume that if you're walking it's because you're not going far. |
| 04:03 |
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Waylon |
heh. guess so. so yea... koha.. with 3 catalyst, but many koha library people, hmm... however, there was two or three booths of siridynix based people. Palmerston north, national library, and siridynix booths. |
| 04:04 |
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Waylon |
This is funny, the thomsonreuters booth person, he helped his brother install koha for a library. hehe. fantastic. |
| 04:08 |
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Waylon |
i understand the conference organizers position though. costs delegates $800 nzd (i think chris told me) for all 3 days... so to have someone just walk in and view the exhibition hall... something that isn't done. |
| 04:10 |
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eythian |
yeah, it's really expensive |
| 04:11 |
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eythian |
well, the booths are about advertising chances for sponsors, so the more people that see it, the more exposure it gets. So I would have thought they'd be OK with people seeing that part of it. |
| 04:12 |
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Waylon |
had to get home anyway, the person did me a favor basically... took me ages to get back. Not something id do again with my workload. |
| 04:14 |
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Waylon |
woot.. got 2 flashdrives from a booth... 128 mb.... Wonder if i could get a bootable koha system on it. |
| 04:14 |
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Waylon |
Text based bootable koha... |
| 04:14 |
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eythian |
probably |
| 04:15 |
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Waylon |
maybe even a mini-Xorg prehaps. |
| 04:15 |
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eythian |
it'd be tight |
| 04:16 |
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Waylon |
yeah... im thinking, alot of the koha stuff can be squashfs'ed rather well. |
| 04:16 |
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Waylon |
being all text ... perl libs etc. |
| 04:19 |
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* Waylon |
idly wonders if koha would work on a rasberry pi. |
| 04:19 |
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* ibeardslee |
recalls something mentioned about someone trying that |
| 04:19 |
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Waylon |
$60 koha appliances for small libraries / demo box. |
| 04:19 |
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ibeardslee |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_a_Raspberry_Pi |
| 04:19 |
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Waylon |
oh wow cool. |
| 04:22 |
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eythian |
oh yeah, Mirko was doing that |
| 04:25 |
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| 04:29 |
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Waylon |
jcamins_away, chris brought up the idea, of linked list of branches. Branches having children/parents. Say, a local branch could be part of a library, which in turn could be part of a bigger library, which in turn could be part of a consortium. of libraries. And each level being searchable across that level. |
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eythian |
the SirsiD HOLDS table has a field call "NO_HOLDS_BARRED" |
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cjh |
heh |
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Waylon |
haha.. brilliant. |
| 04:54 |
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Waylon |
Them fighting words.. |
| 05:11 |
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Waylon |
trying to think of an appropiate koha response. |
| 05:13 |
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* eythian |
starts to make packages |
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eythian |
oh bother. I don't have a copy of my non-expired secret key with which to sign the packages. |
| 05:57 |
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eythian |
It'll have to wait until I can get it from home. |
| 06:01 |
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eythian |
curious that enigmail has been happily letting me sign things. |
| 06:01 |
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eythian |
evolution rather |
| 06:04 |
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cait |
evening eythian |
| 06:04 |
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eythian |
hiya |
| 06:04 |
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cait |
shouldn't you be home? :) |
| 06:04 |
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eythian |
it's only 6pm :) |
| 06:07 |
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mtompset |
You aren't home at 6pm? |
| 06:07 |
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eythian |
not usually, no |
| 06:08 |
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mtompset |
Sounds like you keep flex hours. ;) |
| 06:08 |
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eythian |
@later tell rangi beware editing the debian changelogs, the version numbers have to be exact, and it's prone to causing conflicts |
| 06:08 |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:08 |
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eythian |
mtompset: yeah, I do. It's handy |
| 06:10 |
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mtompset |
you aren't set up at home to remotely access the information you need? ;) |
| 06:11 |
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eythian |
I can, but I'm not a fan of working from home. |
| 06:11 |
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eythian |
I prefer to keep the spaces separate where I can. |
| 06:11 |
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mtompset |
No, I mean access your home information from work. |
| 06:12 |
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mtompset |
I understand wanting to keep spaces separate. |
| 06:12 |
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eythian |
oh, no. It's not something I really need to be able to do. |
| 06:12 |
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eythian |
(in most cases) |
| 06:12 |
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eythian |
so I turn my home computer off when I leave. |
| 06:13 |
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mtompset |
Hmm... where did I see someone mentioning pending suggestions showing, but clicking it brings up nothing? |
| 06:14 |
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eythian |
filter by branch |
| 06:15 |
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eythian |
there's a bug for it somewhere |
| 06:15 |
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Waylon |
eepp |
| 06:15 |
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Waylon |
thats kinda one thing i really need. |
| 06:15 |
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Waylon |
ohhh |
| 06:15 |
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Waylon |
pending suggestions.. not catalog. |
| 06:15 |
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Waylon |
nevermind. |
| 06:15 |
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eythian |
it works, it's just a bit broken |
| 06:16 |
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eythian |
Bug 7300 <-- exhibit A |
| 06:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , display suggestions from librarian library only by default |
| 06:16 |
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eythian |
Bug 8274 <-- Exhibit B |
| 06:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8274 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , count of suggestions on main page wrong |
| 06:21 |
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Waylon |
eythian, what do you think of chris's linked list branches idea? |
| 06:22 |
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eythian |
I dunno, there is/was a branch groups feature. Can a list give us things that we couldn't get by using this? |
| 06:22 |
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eythian |
but, I haven't thought about it really |
| 06:24 |
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Waylon |
well.. branch groups would only give one level of branch grouping? |
| 06:24 |
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Waylon |
or did it support nested groups? |
| 06:25 |
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eythian |
I doubt it had nesting |
| 06:25 |
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eythian |
but what are the use cases for wanting multiple levels |
| 06:26 |
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eythian |
it sounds nice, but I can't see a use for it. |
| 06:29 |
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Waylon |
library consortiums |
| 06:29 |
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Waylon |
all using the same koha server install. |
| 06:29 |
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Waylon |
a for instance... |
| 06:30 |
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Waylon |
palmerston north public library now belongs to a consortium, with national library. |
| 06:30 |
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Waylon |
and othes. |
| 06:30 |
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Waylon |
palmerston north library has local branches. |
| 06:30 |
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eythian |
hmm, I see |
| 06:30 |
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eythian |
possibly a good case, yeah |
| 06:30 |
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Waylon |
so thats central branch of the palmerston north library, of the national library consortium. |
| 06:30 |
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eythian |
it'd be hard to do without overcomplicating an already complicated UI |
| 06:31 |
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Waylon |
ah.. bad example thou.. they using dynix. |
| 06:31 |
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Waylon |
no holds barred... |
| 06:31 |
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Waylon |
hmm... really must find a response. |
| 06:34 |
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mtompset |
Okay, those bug reports are a little helpful. |
| 06:34 |
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| 06:34 |
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mtompset |
But I have two records in the suggestions table, and I know what they are, but I don't know why they aren't showing. |
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marcelr |
morning #koha |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
morning marcelr |
| 06:35 |
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marcelr |
:) |
| 06:35 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, marcelr |
| 06:35 |
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marcelr |
hi |
| 06:35 |
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wahanui |
salut, marcelr |
| 06:35 |
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cait |
:) |
| 06:35 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. :) |
| 06:35 |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
| 06:36 |
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cait |
ok, have to get ready for work - will be back in a bit :) |
| 06:36 |
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mtompset |
greetings, drojf |
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marcelr |
hi drojf |
| 06:36 |
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cait |
morning drojf :) |
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| 06:36 |
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drojf |
hiya mtompset, marcelr and cait |
| 06:36 |
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eythian |
mtompset: I've only seen it as the result of the filtering |
| 06:37 |
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mtompset |
It says filter by clear. |
| 06:37 |
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mtompset |
Going to see if there are error log entries. |
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alex_a |
hello world ! |
| 06:38 |
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drojf |
hi alex_a |
| 06:38 |
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mtompset |
bonjour tout le monde? ;) |
| 06:38 |
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mtompset |
(sorry if I mangled the french) |
| 06:38 |
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alex_a |
bonjour tout seul mtompset |
| 06:38 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, alex_a |
| 06:39 |
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alex_a |
mtompset: perfect ! |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, reiveune |
| 06:43 |
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marcelr |
hi reiveune |
| 06:43 |
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reiveune |
salut marcelr :) |
| 06:44 |
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eythian |
I really need to add some kind of cache to debian/update-control...it's soooo slow |
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francharb |
good morning #koha |
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matts |
hi ! |
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julian_m |
hello |
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mveron |
Good morning #koha |
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* eythian |
finally starts 3.8.5 building |
| 07:01 |
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eythian |
some bad people out there who add dependencies without adding them to the appropriate file. |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:11 |
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mtompset |
okay this is weird... I added a suggestion, all three suggestions list. I delete my suggestion that I added. All suggestions disappear. |
| 07:11 |
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mbalmer |
hello |
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eythian |
mtompset: that is weird |
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mveron |
Hi mbalmer and hi everybody |
| 07:21 |
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mtompset |
Okay, weirder... I go to home, click on the pending suggestions, and even my added one isn't listed anymore. |
| 07:21 |
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eythian |
ah right, I could see that happening |
| 07:21 |
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eythian |
OK, packages built, but no non-expired key to sign them with. So tomorrow I'll deploy them. |
| 07:22 |
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mtompset |
can you give a rough etd? |
| 07:22 |
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eythian |
mtompset: tomorrow |
| 07:22 |
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wahanui |
i guess tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today. |
| 07:22 |
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Waylon |
tuesday? |
| 07:22 |
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wahanui |
tuesday is good too |
| 07:22 |
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Waylon |
hehe |
| 07:22 |
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eythian |
probably before noon tomorrow. |
| 07:22 |
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eythian |
NZST that is |
| 07:23 |
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eythian |
mtompset: if you want to help, bug 8806 ;) |
| 07:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Debian packaging updates |
| 07:25 |
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mtompset |
Okay, so that before 8am Manila time. ;) |
| 07:25 |
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eythian |
most likely :) |
| 07:28 |
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drojf |
eythian: how would one test that? apply patch, build package and try to install? |
| 07:29 |
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eythian |
drojf: yeah |
| 07:29 |
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eythian |
realistically, only the build should be able to fail |
| 07:29 |
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eythian |
anyway, time for me to go |
| 07:30 |
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mtompset |
By the way, I'm pretty sure a patched install_misc/debian.packages file should have the same lib contents as the control file, right? So perhaps you may wish to look at bug 8784 which I posted. |
| 07:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8784 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Missing files in debian.packages list |
| 07:30 |
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eythian |
mtompset: have a look at debian/update-control (or debian/list-deps) |
| 07:30 |
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eythian |
I think you are likely to be right |
| 07:30 |
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eythian |
also debian/control.in |
| 07:31 |
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* eythian |
makes like a tree and gets out of hair |
| 07:31 |
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drojf |
seems like the sd card of my development pi is really broken, so much for testing anything :( |
| 07:32 |
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mtompset |
broken? how? |
| 07:33 |
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mtompset |
BTW, debian/list-deps is a perl pre-cursor to my check_deps.sh script which is in the release-tools repository, eythian . |
| 07:33 |
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drojf |
i wanted to try building the 3.8.5 package yesterday and at some point it only said "segmentation fault". it does not boot anymore, i am able to open it in a card reader and copy stuff though so i don't really know what is going on |
| 07:33 |
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mtompset |
Oh that sucks big time. |
| 07:33 |
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drojf |
at least i got the git stuff copied |
| 07:34 |
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* mtompset |
nods. |
| 07:34 |
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mtompset |
Saves an hour or three there. :) |
| 07:36 |
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drojf |
yes. but i somehow hoped it would just repair itself over night ;) |
| 07:39 |
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mtompset |
I think there is some magically awesome bits that are required to boot, before grub. Perhaps those got toasted. |
| 07:39 |
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mtompset |
did you try another SD card yet? |
| 07:40 |
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drojf |
yes the pi is fine. glad i made a new card with fresh debian and koha stable before so i can still play with it ;) |
| 07:40 |
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drojf |
changing the boot stuff is the first thing i will try |
| 07:41 |
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mtj |
hi #koha |
| 07:41 |
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drojf |
hi mtj |
| 07:42 |
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mtj |
halcyonCorsair, i spotted this recently -> http://www.slideshare.net/dago[…]presentationfinal |
| 07:43 |
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mtj |
… all very relevant to koha |
| 07:53 |
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Waylon |
drojf, what about using squashfs on the pi? |
| 07:54 |
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* Waylon |
has a few 128 mb flash sticks... wondering if i can fit a working bootable koha on it. |
| 07:54 |
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Waylon |
for pc's |
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Waylon |
ah... |
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Waylon |
nevermind/ |
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Waylon |
... |
| 07:55 |
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Waylon |
welcome back drojf ? |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf_afk. ;) |
| 08:42 |
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mtompset |
128MB?! Are you mad?! |
| 08:54 |
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mtj |
Waylon, 128 is too small for Koha |
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jcamins |
4:40 is much to early to get up. |
| 09:22 |
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Waylon |
even squashfs'ed mtj, mtompset ? |
| 09:22 |
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mtompset |
I did it this morning, then after a couple hours of productivity, I went back to sleep. :) |
| 09:23 |
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mtompset |
Oh, this is disk space, not memory... never mind, Waylon. |
| 09:24 |
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mtompset |
a du -h on /usr/share/koha for 3.8.4 package install is 377M. |
| 09:24 |
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mtompset |
I don't think you can get it to work on 128M, unless you have compression on the fly. |
| 09:25 |
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mtj |
… which is what squashfs is, afaik |
| 09:26 |
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Waylon |
yes. |
| 09:26 |
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Waylon |
its what openwrt uses |
| 09:26 |
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mtompset |
I don't think on the fly compression is going to be that good. |
| 09:26 |
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Waylon |
And i run openwrt on my asteriskbox/router. |
| 09:27 |
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mtompset |
Because you'll also need the linux installed too. |
| 09:27 |
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Waylon |
right. |
| 09:27 |
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Waylon |
well.. sounds like a challenge. |
| 09:27 |
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ibeardslee |
but if you mount parts of the tree on other systems then you can probably do it |
| 09:28 |
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Waylon |
eh, I do have TWO 128mb flashdrives. |
| 09:28 |
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mtj |
Waylon, if you are looking for a decent pet project for Koha… -> Carton support |
| 09:28 |
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Waylon |
Carton support? |
| 09:28 |
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ibeardslee |
.. network shares .. on other servers/PCs/workstations etc |
| 09:28 |
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mtj |
bug 8807 |
| 09:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8807 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , add Carton support to Koha |
| 09:29 |
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mtompset |
ibeardslee: I was thinking he was going to get everything contained on 128MB, OS and Koha and Data. |
| 09:29 |
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Waylon |
yea. I am thinking that. |
| 09:30 |
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Waylon |
but i do have two 128 sticks, so will try that before pruning the default perl install. |
| 09:30 |
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ibeardslee |
that'd be interesting project |
| 09:30 |
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mtj |
…why not a simple beowulf cluster of 128mb unionfs openwrt boxes, in the cloud? |
| 09:31 |
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Waylon |
hahah |
| 09:31 |
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mtompset |
If you find that you can fit the /usr/share/koha tree on 128MB, and the OS on 128, then it may be possible, if you mount your data elsewhere. |
| 09:31 |
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Waylon |
.. why would koha need 128mb by itself? |
| 09:31 |
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mtompset |
I told you that I did a du -h on /usr/share/koha. |
| 09:31 |
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mtompset |
I got 377M. |
| 09:32 |
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Waylon |
this including git? |
| 09:32 |
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mtompset |
no. |
| 09:32 |
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Waylon |
hmm.. |
| 09:32 |
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mtompset |
If you can fit that tree on 128MB squashfs, then it may be possible over two sticks plus a data source. |
| 09:35 |
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Waylon |
wow.... alot of javascript source. |
| 09:35 |
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Waylon |
prog/en/js .. 3.7M of javascript |
| 09:36 |
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mtompset |
oh right... I forgot languages. |
| 09:37 |
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Waylon |
ccsr costs 1.5M |
| 09:37 |
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Waylon |
opac-tmpl/lib costs 5M |
| 09:38 |
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Waylon |
installer alone plus mysql datafiles... 69 M |
| 09:38 |
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mtompset |
Okay... my mistake make that roughly 300MB without a second language. |
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Waylon |
exclude t, exclude migration_tools/22_to_30 |
| 09:42 |
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Waylon |
exclude misc/translator/ |
| 09:43 |
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kf_afk |
you wan exclude the po files |
| 09:43 |
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mtj |
include a zebra database |
| 09:43 |
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kf_afk |
but if you want more languages you will have to readd them I think |
| 09:43 |
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mtompset |
You can probably exclude the lib/yui files, but make sure your setting is to use it externally. |
| 09:44 |
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kf_afk |
hmnot sure that's recommended it might cause problems |
| 09:44 |
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Waylon |
...... all the excludes end up with 41M left of usage |
| 09:45 |
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mtj |
include 103mb of perl modules |
| 09:45 |
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mtompset |
A 256 squashfs might be able to do it. ;) |
| 09:45 |
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mtompset |
But that's for only the installed koha parts. |
| 09:45 |
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Waylon |
yeah. |
| 09:46 |
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Waylon |
maybe even a 128 mb. its pushing it though. no room for graphical interface or anything. server on a stick. |
| 09:46 |
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Waylon |
Sounds like a fun project though. |
| 09:46 |
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mtompset |
I think this is where you'd want to try DSL. |
| 09:46 |
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* Waylon |
nods. |
| 09:46 |
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jcamins |
Waylon: it seems to me there are more useful projects you could find. |
| 09:47 |
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mtompset |
http://damnsmalllinux.org/ |
| 09:48 |
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mtj |
jcamins++ |
| 09:49 |
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Waylon |
yes jcamins, I know. Like my current port koha 3.0 mods to koha master, then backport... which.. ah.. isn't so fun. |
| 09:50 |
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Waylon |
oh btw, todays summary of karma. |
| 09:50 |
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Waylon |
catalystit++ |
| 09:51 |
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Waylon |
rangi++ |
| 09:51 |
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Waylon |
siridynix? |
| 09:51 |
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Waylon |
hrm. |
| 09:51 |
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Waylon |
ah |
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Waylon |
sirsidynix? |
| 09:51 |
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Waylon |
hmm.. how to describe.. |
| 09:53 |
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Waylon |
haha.. brilliant... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SirsiDynix "SirsiDynix claims to be a global leader in providing "technology solutions" to libraries" someone put "claims" in there. |
| 09:55 |
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mtj |
aah, so thats where LL pinched their 'global leader' blurb from |
| 09:55 |
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Waylon |
huh? |
| 09:56 |
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Waylon |
LL sabotaged sirsidynix wiki entry? |
| 09:58 |
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mtj |
no, LL had a similar 'global leader in bla bla…' blurb on their website |
| 09:58 |
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Waylon |
ahh |
| 09:59 |
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Waylon |
oooo |
| 09:59 |
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Waylon |
a user named "Mean as custard" changed IS to Claims to be. |
| 09:59 |
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Waylon |
haha |
| 10:00 |
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Waylon |
calling it a "clarification" |
| 10:00 |
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Waylon |
hmm. |
| 10:00 |
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Waylon |
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sirs[…]ogies%2C_Sep_2009 |
| 10:03 |
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mtj |
but seriously.. is Graphics::Magick.pm currently impossible to install ? |
| 10:03 |
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Waylon |
hrm? think i installed the deb.. |
| 10:04 |
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mtompset |
Under what OS? |
| 10:04 |
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mtj |
its always been difficult, but now its no longer on CPAN?! |
| 10:04 |
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jcamins |
mtj: It has serious issues, yes. |
| 10:04 |
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Waylon |
debian squeeze |
| 10:04 |
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wahanui |
debian squeeze is recommended for koha? |
| 10:04 |
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mtj |
under *any* OS |
| 10:04 |
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Waylon |
libgraphics-magick-perl |
| 10:04 |
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Waylon |
is installed |
| 10:04 |
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mtompset |
Actually, it's the reason we need to use the gd-xpm version. ;) |
| 10:05 |
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mtj |
ah ok, i missed the package on debian |
| 10:06 |
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mtompset |
bug 8784 |
| 10:06 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8784 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Missing files in debian.packages list |
| 10:07 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: why on earth would we want to use the xpm version? |
| 10:07 |
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mtj |
so, perlmagick.pm is now the offical way to access GM -> http://www.graphicsmagick.org/perl.html |
| 10:08 |
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mtj |
… not graphicsmagick.pm ? |
| 10:08 |
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mtompset |
There's something about graphics-magick that triggered a swap from the noxpm version. |
| 10:08 |
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mtompset |
at least last time I looked at it. |
| 10:08 |
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mtompset |
under ubuntu. |
| 10:08 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: yes, you had installed X. |
| 10:09 |
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jcamins |
Changing the dependency is not a good idea, though. |
| 10:09 |
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jcamins |
Most of us don't want to install X on our servers. |
| 10:09 |
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mtompset |
I know that. |
| 10:09 |
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mtompset |
Just saying that pieces of it happen. |
| 10:10 |
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mtj |
… if you install it on a box with X |
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kf_afk |
chef-koha? :) |
| 10:21 |
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kf_afk |
oh... i hoped it was about recipes |
| 10:22 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 10:22 |
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jcamins |
It is, just not food recipes. |
| 10:22 |
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kf_afk |
hmm |
| 10:22 |
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kf_afk |
can you explain? |
| 10:23 |
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jcamins |
Chef uses "recipes" for configuring software automatically. |
| 10:23 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 10:24 |
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kf_afk |
hm |
| 10:24 |
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mtompset |
http://www.slideshare.net/dago[…]presentationfinal (mtj posted this earlier) |
| 10:25 |
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mtj |
… now there is a worthy koha installation project, folks |
| 10:27 |
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mtompset |
yes, but it requires familiarity with each of the pieces talked about. |
| 10:28 |
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mtj |
mtompset, does not everything? |
| 10:28 |
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mtompset |
sadly, yes. |
| 10:37 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: BTW, regarding the Ubuntu installation document on the wiki, it instructs people to install the packages, and then pick up again at running Makefile.PL, which is a little confusing. |
| 10:38 |
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mtompset |
Yes, I've gotten distracted. |
| 10:38 |
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mtompset |
I'll be cleaning that up... actually splitting it. |
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drojf |
how would i move my git stuff to a different computer? just copy over the koha folder including the .git folder? |
| 10:54 |
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Barrc |
morning all - does there exist a command line borrower import utility? I see plenty of request for one and RFCs but I can't seem to locate one! |
| 10:59 |
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Waylon |
jcamins, regards to my multibranch system, does the syspref: multibranch disable/enable assigning multiple branches to a patron.: make sense? |
| 11:00 |
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mtj |
Barrc, ask the catalyst-nz people - they have one, i am sure |
| 11:01 |
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jcamins |
Waylon: that's not a good name for the syspref, but I can't think of a good one at the moment. |
| 11:01 |
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mtj |
eythian, or rangi may know the url ^^ |
| 11:01 |
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Barrc |
mtj: Thanks - will do. |
| 11:02 |
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Waylon |
think i also need to include a syspref "Completely independant libraries" - Different branches are completely seperate, a user cannot search outside assigned branches. |
| 11:02 |
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Waylon |
makes sense? |
| 11:02 |
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kf_afk |
Waylon: that multibranch thing sounds like a lot of trouble |
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kf_afk |
Waylon: there are system preferences to make koha choose circ and return and reserve rules by patron home library |
| 11:03 |
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mtj |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ads/import_branch |
| 11:04 |
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mtj |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ads/import_branch |
| 11:04 |
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mtj |
Barrc, import borrowers from csv file ^^ |
| 11:04 |
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Waylon |
Yes, but it does not limit branches access to search results, its what the company i work for, uses. |
| 11:05 |
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Waylon |
turning branches into libraries basically. and if one has the branches, the ability to search across libraries. |
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Barrc |
mtj: Excellent, thanks for that. I may need to modify it slightly as it doesn't seem to match/ignore existing users! Thanks! |
| 11:06 |
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kf_afk |
Waylon: if the functionality is limited to searches, maybe have that reflected in the preference name |
| 11:06 |
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mtj |
Barrc, … and rememeber ask on the lists and irc - and save yourself a bunch of xtra effort |
| 11:07 |
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Barrc |
yeah, I was already spec'ing up the job to write from scratch - saves me a lot of time! |
| 11:08 |
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mtj |
catalyst prolly have a better version of that old script by now, at least |
| 11:08 |
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jcamins |
migration toolkit? |
| 11:08 |
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jcamins |
migration toolbox? |
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jcamins |
migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
| 11:09 |
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jcamins |
migration toolkit is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
| 11:09 |
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jcamins |
That might be of use. |
| 11:09 |
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mtj |
aah, there you go :) |
| 11:09 |
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Waylon |
kf_afk, hmm.... think it only affects searches. what other systems does a opac user use, across branches? |
| 11:10 |
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kf_afk |
circulation? |
| 11:10 |
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wahanui |
well, circulation is really much faster with that... But also display of biblios with many items...... |
| 11:10 |
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kf_afk |
suggestion management maybe |
| 11:10 |
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Waylon |
hmm.. we personally don't use circ, nor suggestions system. |
| 11:10 |
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kf_afk |
yeah |
| 11:11 |
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kf_afk |
I was worried that your development will have unwanted side effects from the description |
| 11:11 |
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kf_afk |
if you add the ability to have more than one home library for a patron - this will surely explode |
| 11:11 |
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kf_afk |
if you add a different table, it could work |
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jcamins |
kf_afk: it couldn't be a home library. |
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Waylon |
ah, I use BorrowerExtendedAttributes |
| 11:11 |
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jcamins |
It would have to be something like "affiliated library." |
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kf_afk |
but I think it it's for search, mabe it shoudl not be branches but search properties defined in branchreleations and then a new field in the patron record for those. |
| 11:12 |
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kf_afk |
jcamins: yep :) |
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Barrc |
jcamins: That's great - thanks. Seems to be all I need! |
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Waylon |
kf_afk, whoa.. thats getting way complicated .. ah.... hmm. ill do syspref "Limit searches by available branches" - "Opac users can only search those branches that are available to them. This only affects searches." |
| 11:15 |
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kf_afk |
Waylon: sorry :) |
| 11:15 |
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Waylon |
sound okay? |
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kf_afk |
only pointing out there is already a way to group libraries for search :) |
| 11:15 |
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kf_afk |
so thought it could maybe work with this |
| 11:15 |
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Waylon |
ah? is there? |
| 11:16 |
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kf_afk |
yes, youcan group branches into search properties |
| 11:16 |
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kf_afk |
those will show up in the opac too |
| 11:16 |
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Waylon |
ah.. group branches.. but hmm... |
| 11:17 |
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Waylon |
what if the staff member creating the patron, wants to abitarily choose branches to limit them to? |
| 11:17 |
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kf_afk |
hm sounds like better do without the search group sthen |
| 11:18 |
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Waylon |
yeah. and i think i got the language right in the new syspref description? |
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kf_afk |
I think available branches would make me a bit confused |
| 11:18 |
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kf_afk |
what about |
| 11:19 |
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kf_afk |
limist/Don't limit searches to libraries (we avoid branches) configured in the patron record. |
| 11:19 |
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Waylon |
Well... available.. as in, if the entire koha install had branches A B C and D, but you were only given access to A and B, your available branches, are A and B |
| 11:19 |
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Waylon |
ahh. |
| 11:19 |
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kf_afk |
and maybe add OPAC in thee |
| 11:20 |
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kf_afk |
and ignore the typos of course... |
| 11:20 |
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kf_afk |
Limit/Don't limit OPAC searches of a logged in patron... |
| 11:20 |
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kf_afk |
what does happen if the user is not logged in? |
| 11:21 |
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Waylon |
hmm.. this syspref would most likely be used by a logged-in only opac. |
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Waylon |
if not a secure opac.. hmm.... maybe a default patron record? |
| 11:22 |
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Waylon |
like "guest" or somesuch. |
| 11:22 |
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kf_afk |
hm |
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* Waylon |
shrugs. "Did not think about that." |
| 11:23 |
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kf_afk |
you could limit the functionality to private opacs maybe |
| 11:23 |
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kf_afk |
just make all searchable if the opac is not hidden? |
| 11:23 |
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Waylon |
yes, it wouldn't make sense otherwise. |
| 11:23 |
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kf_afk |
would be easier than using an anonymous patron maybe |
| 11:24 |
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Waylon |
Limit/Don't limit OPAC searches of a logged in patron to libraries configured in the patron record, provided that the opac is configured for secure. |
| 11:25 |
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Waylon |
"the opac is configured for secure" sounds abit wrong? needs rewording? |
| 11:28 |
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jcamins |
"... if OpacPublic is disabled." |
| 11:29 |
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Waylon |
yeah! hmm.. now for a short name. |
| 11:29 |
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Waylon |
for code purposes... eeek. |
| 11:30 |
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Waylon |
branchsearchlimit? |
| 11:31 |
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jcamins |
Just make sure you are cooperating with SearchMyLibraryFirst. |
| 11:31 |
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Waylon |
hmm? |
| 11:31 |
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Waylon |
which does? |
| 11:32 |
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jcamins |
I'm saying your code needs to. |
| 11:32 |
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Waylon |
I mean, what does SearchMyLibraryFirst do? |
| 11:34 |
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Waylon |
branchlimitsearch (hmm?) doesn't change the order of results, just limits them .. like a "limit by" |
| 11:35 |
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jcamins |
It doesn't have anything to do with sorting results. |
| 11:35 |
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jcamins |
It limits searches to the logged-in user's library by default. |
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* kf_afk |
nods |
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kf_afk |
Waylon: sorry - we are not trying to make this hard for you - but it has to integrate into existing featuers to make its way in |
| 11:37 |
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Waylon |
right. |
| 11:39 |
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Waylon |
limits searches to the home library by default, but allows for the selection of other libraries if needed? |
| 11:40 |
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jcamins |
I believe so. |
| 11:40 |
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jcamins |
I don't entirely recall at this point. |
| 11:42 |
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Waylon |
hmm.. as one of the features of mandumah is a library selection page (via checkboxes) at login, which i probably won't submit to koha community (who would want that feature?), id probably not touch that mechanic anyway. |
| 11:43 |
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jcamins |
Waylon: I am certain you will be touching the code involved. |
| 11:43 |
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Waylon |
id just commit the syspref changes, the borrowerextendedattribute changes and the search code changes... the interface changes... most likely all mandumah specific. |
| 11:44 |
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jcamins |
Waylon: the "search changes" will involve the exact same part of code that SearchMyLibraryFirst is involved in. |
| 11:47 |
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Waylon |
wait... the language used in the syspref, it sounds like its exactly what I want? |
| 11:48 |
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Waylon |
Limit/Don't limit patrons' searches to the library they are registered at. |
| 11:48 |
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jcamins |
Waylon: except you're doing something with multiple branches. |
| 11:48 |
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Waylon |
Yes. |
| 11:48 |
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jcamins |
That's why I'm saying you want to make sure that your changes don't conflict with that. |
| 11:49 |
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Waylon |
if SearchMyLibraryFirst is on, ignore multibranch? |
| 11:49 |
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Waylon |
since it takes security precidence? |
| 11:49 |
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jcamins |
Or make SearchMyLibraryFirst understand multibranch. |
| 11:50 |
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Waylon |
hmm.. its used in only Auth and opac-user |
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Waylon |
wooo massive netburp |
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Waylon |
hmm.. its used in only Auth and opac-user, and inserts the branch limit into masthead.inc's opac search... |
| 11:55 |
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kf_afk |
oleonard++ |
| 11:55 |
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Waylon |
did i miss something? |
| 11:56 |
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kf_afk |
that woudl make sense |
| 11:56 |
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kf_afk |
it changed the default setting of the masthead's opac search |
| 11:57 |
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Waylon |
it doesn't actually sanitise it, seems like one could add additional branches by adding limit_cgi themselves. |
| 11:57 |
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jcamins |
I have *got* to stop doing that. |
| 11:57 |
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Waylon |
doing what? |
| 11:57 |
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jcamins |
I keep on going "oh no, where's my new feature?!?!?!?" and getting very frustrated. |
| 11:58 |
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jcamins |
Then I remember that I forgot to disable it. |
| 11:58 |
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Waylon |
hmm? |
| 11:58 |
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jcamins |
*EN*able it |
| 11:58 |
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kf_afk |
lol |
| 11:58 |
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jcamins |
Fourth time today. |
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* kf_afk |
hands jcamins a cookie and reassures him all his nice features are fine and alive |
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* Waylon |
is keeping a bugzilla on his dev machine, for devel planning / notes.] |
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Waylon |
so yeah, seems like the limit isn't actually enforced in opac-search.pl |
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Waylon |
one could add multiple branches into multiple &limit's, and get more than their home branch. |
| 12:02 |
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jcamins |
Waylon: hence "first" ;) |
| 12:05 |
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Waylon |
unless OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown is turned on, in which case, other branches wouldn't appear... [% IF ( mylibraryfirst ) %] (in [% mylibraryfirst %] only)[% END %] is enacted.... but not actually enforced. |
| 12:06 |
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jcamins |
Right, it's available only through the advanced search due to the way Apache handles environment variables. |
| 12:06 |
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* jcamins |
gets ready to head into the city. |
| 12:07 |
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Waylon |
hmm? |
| 12:10 |
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Waylon |
okay, time to stop work, relax then bed. |
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kf_afk |
sleep well |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: 36k lines? Surely there's a better way to do that? |
| 12:27 |
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mtj |
hopefully.. yes! |
| 12:27 |
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jcamins_away |
Maybe a "generate carton" script? |
| 12:28 |
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mtj |
jcamins_away++ yeah, a very nice idea |
| 12:28 |
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jcamins_away |
Updating that by hand looks not reasonable. |
| 12:28 |
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jcamins_away |
(and as RM presumptive for 3.12, I'd be the one doing it :P) |
| 12:29 |
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mtj |
im hoping to get some discussion about the tool, so i send an initial patch… for discussion :) |
| 12:29 |
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jcamins_away |
wajasu likes it. |
| 12:30 |
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mtj |
but yeah… that .lock file could be autogened, from a script, at install time |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins_away |
That's the ticket! |
| 12:32 |
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jcamins_away |
Surely you didn't just write all that by hand. Just copy your history into a script, and attach that too. :) |
| 12:36 |
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mtj |
no, not written by hand - and yes, i'll attach the build steps too |
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mtj |
jcamins_away, install steps added to bug, ftw |
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jcamins |
mtj++ |
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mtompset |
number? |
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wahanui |
number is right |
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mtompset |
wahanui: forget number |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot number |
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* mtompset |
waves bye. |
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* Guest8029 |
waves |
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* jcamins |
waves back. |
| 13:32 |
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jcamins |
I came across a recipe that I thought "ooh, wizzyrea would love this," but now I can't remember what it was. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
it will come to you |
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* druthb |
waves to wizzyrea. |
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wizzyrea |
sup peeps |
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oleonard |
Hi wizz and jc |
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* jcamins |
waves to oleonard. |
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nengard |
I'm trying to document bug 7993 but I'm not sure how to add a subgroup .. I put some in the authorized value but they don't show when adding a report ? can someone who tested this (or who understands this) point me in the right direction? |
| 13:35 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies |
| 13:36 |
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nengard |
speaking of recipes ? I'm gonna try this later this week (once the ingredients arrive): http://www.skinnytaste.com/201[…]-oats-in-jar.html |
| 13:36 |
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nengard |
YUM! |
| 13:37 |
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mveron |
oleonard++ (For signing off Bug 8810 tha fast! ) |
| 13:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8810 normal, P3, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Opac: Cart should display branchname instead of branchcode |
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* oleonard |
likes an easy signoff to distract him from other work |
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nengard |
:) |
| 13:43 |
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nengard |
figured bug 7993 out .. now to figure out how to make that clear to people reading the manual |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies |
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* oleonard |
looks forward to learning how that works |
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samuel |
hi to all |
| 13:55 |
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samuel |
could someone explain to me this message "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/*mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) " |
| 13:56 |
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jcamins |
samuel: it means MySQL is not running, most likely. |
| 13:57 |
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jcamins |
Or you have the path wrong. |
| 13:57 |
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jcamins |
Probably the wrong path. |
| 13:57 |
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jcamins |
I don't know what that "*" would be doing there. |
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drojf |
in what path would i find the actual mysql data used by my koha installation? |
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jcamins |
drojf: uh-oh |
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gmcharlt |
drojf: /var/lib/mysql (most commonly) |
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jcamins |
/var/lib/mysql/[database]/* + /var/lib/mysql/ibdata* |
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jcamins |
First has table definitions, second has data, I think. |
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drojf |
ah yes there we are. thanks a lot gmcharlt and jcamins |
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* drojf |
is putting together bits and pieces of his development pi |
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jcamins |
Easiest is to restore *all* MySQL databases at once when recovering from ibdata, I think. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: (depends - if you have innodb_file_per_table set, /var/lib/mysql/database/* also has the data) |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: ah, true. |
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drojf |
i'll try to just copy the whole /var folder over from the broken installation to the backup i restored i guess. |
| 14:10 |
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drojf |
either it will explode or not ;) |
| 14:10 |
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mveron |
oleonard: If you like to get the score point on the dshboard you should switch status Bug 8810 to signed off :-) |
| 14:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8810 normal, P3, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Opac: Cart should display branchname instead of branchcode |
| 14:11 |
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* oleonard |
forgets when git-bz is doing everything else for him |
| 14:11 |
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mveron |
:-) |
| 14:11 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: that's why I hacked git-bz to do it for me. |
| 14:11 |
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jcamins |
jcamins' git-bz? |
| 14:11 |
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* drojf |
considers stealing the point just for the fun of it :P |
| 14:11 |
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mveron |
drojf: As I did wit one of your points a couple of weeks ago... |
| 14:11 |
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jcamins |
jcamins' git-bz is https://github.com/jcamins/git-bz |
| 14:12 |
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oleonard |
How does it work jcamins? |
| 14:12 |
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* mveron |
should put his glasses... |
| 14:12 |
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drojf |
mveron: exactly ;) |
| 14:13 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: exactly the same as the regular one, except you uncomment the new status you want to set. |
| 14:13 |
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mveron |
ddrojf: But I gave you the chance to get an other point back :-) |
| 14:13 |
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jcamins |
The only problem is that if you uncomment an illegal status, it gets very grouchy and you have to repeat the command. |
| 14:14 |
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oleonard |
"illegal?" |
| 14:14 |
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drojf |
mveron: yes, also we did not know then that you would get the point for that :) |
| 14:14 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: if you try to move from "Needs Signoff" to "Passed QA" or "Pushed to Master" to "Needs Signoff." |
| 14:14 |
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jcamins |
That sort of thing. |
| 14:14 |
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oleonard |
Clever. |
| 14:15 |
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nengard |
uh oh! my favorite reports feature doesn't work anymore |
| 14:15 |
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nengard |
bug 8811 |
| 14:15 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8811 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't run report after saving |
| 14:17 |
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drojf |
i guess i will have to limp to the library to renew my books before restoring my koha git. damn short loan period |
| 14:19 |
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jcamins |
nengard: are you sure the link ever got into Koha? |
| 14:19 |
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jcamins |
I remember testing it, but never actually saw it outside my test branch. |
| 14:19 |
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nengard |
it's there in 3.8.4 |
| 14:20 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 14:20 |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
| 14:20 |
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jcamins |
Guess this would be because I rarely create new reports. |
| 14:20 |
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nengard |
added an image from 3.8.4 |
| 14:21 |
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nengard |
all I do is create reports :) |
| 14:27 |
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kf_afk |
nengard: do you have permission to run the reports? |
| 14:27 |
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nengard |
i'm superlibrarian |
| 14:27 |
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kf_afk |
I think creating and running are different |
| 14:27 |
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kf_afk |
maybe try adding the perm for a test? |
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* oleonard |
agrees that nengard is |
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oleonard |
I don't even remember seeing that button before |
| 14:32 |
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wajasu |
libsysguy: did you see my comment about using $ENV{'DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS'} = 1; to squelch the the DBIx validation warning? |
| 14:32 |
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oleonard |
nengard: The link doesn't appear because [% id %] is not present in the template, and the button doesn't work because [% id %] isn't present in the template |
| 14:33 |
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oleonard |
the edit button won't work either for the same reason |
| 14:33 |
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nengard |
so it's a template bug? |
| 14:33 |
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nengard |
can you fix it? if so I'll sign off immediately :) |
| 14:33 |
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nengard |
both button and link used to work |
| 14:33 |
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nengard |
and have been there for a while :) |
| 14:33 |
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* oleonard |
is checking |
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oleonard |
nengard: Are you in master? |
| 14:35 |
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nengard |
ues |
| 14:35 |
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nengard |
or |
| 14:35 |
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nengard |
yes |
| 14:37 |
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* oleonard |
blames Bug 7993 |
| 14:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies |
| 14:38 |
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nengard |
oleonard yes, that's what I'm documenting |
| 14:38 |
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nengard |
that's where i found the problem |
| 14:39 |
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nengard |
figured if it was a small template fix though it just needed a new bug report instead of messing with the bigger dev/feature |
| 14:40 |
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oleonard |
No, not a template bug as far as I can tell. Something changed which used to pass the report ID to the template after saving a new report (work with editing a report) |
| 14:41 |
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kf_afk |
uhoh. |
| 14:41 |
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oleonard |
Oh wait, maybe I spoke too soon |
| 14:45 |
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nengard |
about which? |
| 14:49 |
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oleonard |
Figured it out |
| 14:49 |
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oleonard |
The part of the script which passes the report name and id was summarily dropped. |
| 14:49 |
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oleonard |
Was it considered superfluous? I don't know. |
| 14:51 |
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oleonard |
No, it's bug introduced by changes to the script |
| 14:51 |
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nengard |
meh |
| 14:51 |
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* oleonard |
fixes |
| 14:51 |
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nengard |
oooo :)( |
| 14:51 |
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nengard |
that was :) |
| 14:51 |
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nengard |
can't type today |
| 14:56 |
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libsysguy |
wajasu: sorry I was AFK |
| 14:56 |
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oleonard |
patch sent |
| 14:56 |
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oleonard |
jcamins++ # for the git-bz tweak |
| 14:56 |
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libsysguy |
yeah I saw it, I was trying to decide how to proceed |
| 14:58 |
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libsysguy |
wajasu: if that went in would it merit a sign-off? |
| 14:58 |
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libsysguy |
;) |
| 14:58 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I suppose I should also add a "take this bug" option to git-bz. |
| 14:59 |
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oleonard |
Yes, and have it give my coffee a warm-up too |
| 15:02 |
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nengard |
oleonard++ |
| 15:04 |
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libsysguy |
anybody seen bug 8798 yet? |
| 15:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Needs Signoff , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
| 15:04 |
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libsysguy |
it needs a sign-offer from a good friend :p |
| 15:05 |
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* jcamins |
has played with it. |
| 15:05 |
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libsysguy |
didn't you have some issues jcamins? |
| 15:05 |
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libsysguy |
i mean other than the normal ones :p |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I did, yes. |
| 15:06 |
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libsysguy |
did you get them worked out? or are they still pending |
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* jcamins |
hasn't decided yet what the proper response is. |
| 15:06 |
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* libsysguy |
is concerned you're waiting to pounce with a fail flag :p |
| 15:06 |
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jcamins |
lol |
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reiveune |
bye |
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| 15:07 |
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libsysguy |
he always does that |
| 15:08 |
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jcamins |
I think we need to have some kind of buffer against CPANed DBIx::Class screwing things up, since that's not going to be an uncommon issue for anyone who decided to try using Solr. |
| 15:08 |
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kf_afk |
jcamins: so are you pro or contra dbx:class is probably the question ;) |
| 15:08 |
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kf_afk |
oh |
| 15:08 |
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jcamins |
kf_afk: pro DBIx::Class. |
| 15:08 |
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jcamins |
Very strongly. |
| 15:08 |
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kf_afk |
is it only on cpan? |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
kf_afk: no, it's in packages. |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
The version in packages works great. |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
The last version from CPAN works great. |
| 15:09 |
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jcamins |
The version that was in CPAN when the Solr code was added to Koha does not work. |
| 15:10 |
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libsysguy |
so basically it works as long as you're not tinkering with solr |
| 15:10 |
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libsysguy |
if you are, you're going to have to fix your packages |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: it works as long as you *weren't* tinkering with Solr. |
| 15:11 |
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kf_afk |
ah |
| 15:11 |
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libsysguy |
right |
| 15:11 |
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kf_afk |
so in solr the version is hardcoded soewhere? |
| 15:11 |
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jcamins |
You can play with it all you want now. |
| 15:11 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
| 15:11 |
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kf_afk |
or it won't work with the newer? |
| 15:11 |
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libsysguy |
thats what I meant, I just didn't say it well |
| 15:11 |
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wajasu |
libsysguy: yes. i'd signoff |
| 15:11 |
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kf_afk |
or what I am missing here? |
| 15:11 |
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jcamins |
kf_afk: the problem is that developers who tried Solr right when it was added to Koha will encounter an error that won't be encountered by anyone else. |
| 15:11 |
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libsysguy |
ok i think i have completed my bribe of wajasu :p |
| 15:11 |
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libsysguy |
jk wajasyu |
| 15:12 |
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libsysguy |
wajasu** |
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jcamins |
kf_afk: so I'd like to find some way of warning people who may have installed DBIx::Class from CPAN while it was unstable that they need to just switch to packages. |
| 15:13 |
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jcamins |
Actually, no, it wasn't even DBIx::Class that was the problem. |
| 15:13 |
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jcamins |
It was Scalar::Utils. |
| 15:13 |
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jcamins |
I think. |
| 15:13 |
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kf_afk |
ok, still confused |
| 15:13 |
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wahanui |
somebody said confused was "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" |
| 15:13 |
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kf_afk |
but I am sure you know what you are talking about :) |
| 15:16 |
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kf_afk |
bye all :) |
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| 15:17 |
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libsysguy |
ok wajasu its updated |
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wajasu |
ok. testing... |
| 15:17 |
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wahanui |
i think testing is fun! or easier when you have a test plan. Hint hint. |
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oleonard |
Nice try anyway wahanui |
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libsysguy |
wahanui sounds like rangi's puppet :p |
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wahanui |
libsysguy: huh? |
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Topic for #koha is now happy birthday Nate |
| 15:39 |
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nengard |
you asked for an example in comment 2 but i'm not seeing one in a reply ? unless i'm missing it |
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jcamins |
nengard: I did get the example, because I wasn't able to figure it out initially. |
| 15:40 |
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jcamins |
Probably via IRC. |
| 15:40 |
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nengard |
right |
| 15:40 |
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nengard |
that's what I think |
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jcamins |
Let me see if I have that syspref still set. |
| 15:41 |
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jcamins |
I do not. |
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nengard |
hmmm |
| 15:42 |
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nengard |
okay |
| 15:42 |
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nengard |
I'll reply on the bug |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
I think it was 100a, etc. |
| 15:42 |
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jcamins |
But, not at all sure. |
| 15:43 |
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libsysguy |
jcamins, wajasu I just tested updating column definitions with the update script while preserving edited relationships and it works like a charm |
| 15:43 |
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wajasu |
sweet. |
| 15:51 |
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wajasu |
libsysguy: looking at what has been and may ever be installed on squeeze: https://launchpad.net/debian/+[…]publishinghistory |
| 15:54 |
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wajasu |
the fact that you probably did a cpan install, will that burn us later 7000-1( squeeze) vs 7025-1(wheezy), vs 7003(cpan) with a catch-22? |
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wajasu |
if folks develop by pulling from cpan, will that never get packaged for squeeze? |
| 15:56 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: oh, you're not using the version from Debian? |
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libsysguy |
when I did this install I had to go fetch from packages |
| 15:57 |
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libsysguy |
this box *should* be free of all cpam |
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wajasu |
i suspect folks will be on squeeze for some time. OR would there be a wheezy requirement by the time this stuff rolls out? |
| 15:57 |
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* jcamins |
had it work absolutely fine on the Debian version. |
| 15:57 |
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libsysguy |
in fact I know I haven't run any cpan installs on this box, all my cpan work is on my catalyst box |
| 15:59 |
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wajasu |
my test environment is official squeeze debian package pull (7000). that link above only shows 7000-1 for squeeze. how do you have 7033? |
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wajasu |
the test passes on my new fresh VM (with koha-perl-deps.pl reporting installed version (0.07000) and reqd version (0.07033) |
| 16:01 |
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libsysguy |
oh I know what happened |
| 16:01 |
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libsysguy |
instead of doing an apt-cache search I did a cpan search online |
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libsysguy |
apt-cache show libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl — Version: 0.07000-1 |
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wajasu |
so what is the correct solution? you dropping the version reqd? |
| 16:03 |
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libsysguy |
yeah |
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wajasu |
ok. i'll wait for the patch update. |
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libsysguy |
done |
| 16:04 |
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wajasu |
ok |
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wajasu |
libsysguy: did you mean to obsolete the prior Added... ? |
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libsysguy |
shoot, yes I did |
| 16:09 |
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libsysguy |
I can do that in the ticket |
| 16:10 |
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wajasu |
or i can obsolete it when i upload the signoff patch. |
| 16:10 |
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libsysguy |
its ok, I got it |
| 16:10 |
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libsysguy |
sorry about that |
| 16:10 |
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libsysguy |
sometimes its easy to miss that commented out bit |
| 16:11 |
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santy |
hi all! I'm trying to install koha-latest on centos 6.3 i386. I am following centos 6.2 i386 guide available on koha's wiki. Right now I'm stuck. I get Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC error when trying to perl Makefile.PL. Have searched, there seem to be various possible reasons or related dependencies (yaz, libyaz, libyaz-devel , and others) but none of them have worked yet. |
| 16:11 |
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jcamins |
santy: you probably need to install the Perl libraries for Net::Z3950. |
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santy |
jcamins: do you mean this: yum -y install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl? |
| 16:13 |
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jcamins |
santy: that sounds reasonable. |
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santy |
i get No package libnet-z3950-zoom-perl available |
| 16:14 |
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jcamins |
santy: I haven't used CentOS and don't plan on trying it. So I can't comment on what packages you need. |
| 16:15 |
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jcamins |
What you need are the Perl modules for Net::Z3950::* |
| 16:15 |
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jcamins |
You could probably try CPANing them. |
| 16:15 |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
| 16:15 |
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jcamins |
cpan Net::Z3950::ZOOM |
| 16:15 |
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jcamins |
(that will pull all the required ones in) |
| 16:16 |
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jcamins |
(well, it would on Debian, provided you installed the C dependencies) |
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martian523 |
Good morning! |
| 16:26 |
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martian523 |
I have a question from last week |
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rambutan |
@seen jcamins |
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huginn |
rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 10 minutes and 18 seconds ago: <jcamins> (well, it would on Debian, provided you installed the C dependencies) |
| 16:27 |
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rambutan |
ping jcamins |
| 16:27 |
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oleonard |
rambutan: Why don't you just ask him the question rambutan? |
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rambutan |
might could |
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* jcamins |
waves |
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martian523 |
I'm using 3.8.3, when trying to add an "Item Type" in Basic Parameters, according to the manual, there should be a field for renewable. However, this "Renewable" field is not there when i'm trying to add item. |
| 16:32 |
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martian523 |
and again, i should mention that i'm not IT |
| 16:32 |
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oleonard |
martian523: According to which manual? |
| 16:33 |
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martian523 |
the koha manual |
| 16:33 |
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martian523 |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#itemtypeadmin |
| 16:33 |
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oleonard |
Which Koha manual? What's the link? |
| 16:34 |
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oleonard |
I believe that is an error martian523 |
| 16:34 |
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martian523 |
what is the error? |
| 16:34 |
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oleonard |
You can set the number of renewals for an item type in Circulation and Fine rules |
| 16:35 |
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martian523 |
ok...now my next question |
| 16:35 |
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oleonard |
That line, "Enter the total number of renewals allowed for the item type in the 'Renewals' box" should be removed from the manual (attn: nengard ) |
| 16:35 |
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martian523 |
i did the circulation and fine rules for all my other item types |
| 16:35 |
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nengard |
k |
| 16:36 |
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martian523 |
but last week, we came across an item that does not allow any renewals, i set that up, and it seems like it can still let me renew |
| 16:37 |
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oleonard |
martian523: Could it be getting overridden by a more-specific rule somewhere? Library-specific or patron-specific or something like that? |
| 16:38 |
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martian523 |
well, my original settings is patron specific, all types, renewal allowed 1 time |
| 16:38 |
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martian523 |
so that all types override that specific type? |
| 16:38 |
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oleonard |
Do you have a default rule set up? |
| 16:39 |
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oleonard |
all patrons/all types/all libraries? |
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halcyonCorsair |
mtj: I'll check it out |
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martian523 |
patron specific/all types/library specific. ie. Alumni, all items, my library, renewals allowed (1) |
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martian523 |
so when I tried to set, all patrons/new book type/renewals allowed (0), it gets override? |
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oleonard |
martian523: I don't know if it's related to your issue, but it is recommended that you start with a default rule set up for all patrons/all types/all libraries. |
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halcyonCorsair |
mtj: that might make life a fair bit easier |
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pastebot |
"nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "I need some git help - how do I push my changes - what is this trying to say?" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/195 |
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jcamins |
nengard: you amended a commit to the manual, most likely. |
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nengard |
I did not type --amend in any commands ? so how did I do that without knowing? |
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nengard |
and how do I undo it? |
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jcamins |
Either that or you need to merge your new changes. |
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jcamins |
Or you're on the wrong branch. |
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jcamins |
That last just occurred to me. |
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jcamins |
I have no idea how you got a non-fastforward change, but I think probably you could merge the remote branch in, resolve any conflict, and continue on your merry way. |
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nengard |
jcamins what's the command to merge? |
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jcamins |
nengard: git merge. You'll have to experiment -- I'd recommend doing it in a new branch -- to figure out how exactly to resolve the problem. |
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jcamins |
Goodness. A married illustrator duo: Lois and Louis. |
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jcamins |
Is jsicot saying that AuthHierarchy doesn't work for him anymore, or that it's like a zombie risen from the grave? |
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wizzyrea |
the updatedatabase of death? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: that's what I got from it, too. |
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santy |
hi, have been trying to cpan and compile Net::Z3950::ZOOM v 1.28,1.26,1.25, using both yaz 3.0.49-1.el6, and 4.2.33-2.el6, but keep getting t/15-scan.t and t/25-scan.t errors when making test. And there aren't any package with z3950 as part of their name for centos. Can anyone give me a hint? |
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jcamins |
santy: it will have something to do with yaz, most likely. |
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santy |
why? |
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jcamins |
Because Net::Z3950::ZOOM uses yaz libraries. |
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jcamins |
And if it were missing something core, surely you'd have more errors. |
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jcamins |
(i.e. dependency must exist, just not be working right) |
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jcamins |
You could try skipping the tests, but I would like to point out again that I have no direct experience using CentOS. I am merely telling you what I *do* know, because you're going to have enough trouble without my sharing my non-CentOS knowledge. |
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jcamins |
*not sharing |
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santy |
ok, you mean just make installing and praying? |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
I'm not saying it's a good idea. |
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jcamins |
I'm saying, maybe later on you'll encounter something that explains the error so you can go back and fix it. |
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santy |
so shall it be then |
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santy |
centos comes with yaz 3.0.49-1 package... should I go for it or use yaz 4.2 from fedora? wht would you do? |
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nengard_lunch |
someone hacked the wiki homepage - i fixed it and blocked them - but it looks like we're getting spammed with people signing up again: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ial:RecentChanges |
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jcamins |
santy: I have yaz 4.0.11. |
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oleonard |
nengard: I had a friend ask me for help with a sudden deluge of comment spam. I wonder if there's a new bot on the market that defeats CAPTCHAs which were previously useful? |
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jcamins |
santy: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug[…]lay.html?id=77861 <-- looks like someone else had this problem. |
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jcamins |
santy: it looks like Andi Sugandi eventually got Koha installed on CentOS 6.2. |
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jcamins |
Based on my e-mail archives, I think he had trouble with almost every single step. |
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jcamins |
santy: e-mail says 4.2 and do a force install. |
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santy |
lol... thanks for the link... well, I tried version 1.28,1.26,1.25,1.24, they all yielded a lot of errors |
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santy |
ok, will keep yaz 4.2 and force the install |
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* jcamins |
tried tweeting at him to ask if he had encountered a problem with AuthDisplayHierarchies. |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure it worked, and not sure that I understood what he said anyway. |
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wizzyrea |
that guy seems irritated. |
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wizzyrea |
maybe it's a cultural thing. |
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jcamins |
Or a language thing. |
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oleonard |
I met him in Marseille, he's not a troll. |
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* oleonard |
denies the allegation that the jquery calendar is always in US format |
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oleonard |
...but if there's an exception I'd like to know about it. |
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nengard |
can somoene tell me how to checkout the manual3.8.x branch? |
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nengard |
I deleted mine cause it was borked |
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nengard |
but don't have notes on how to pull it down again apparently |
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jcamins |
git checkout -b manual3.8.x origin/manual3.8.x? |
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jcamins |
Substituting the appropriate names in the appropriate places. |
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jcamins |
It's no different from checkout out a branch when working on Koha. |
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nengard |
jcamins I've never done that :) |
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nengard |
but thanks now I can do it on manual and Koha :) |
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jcamins |
nengard: you must, otherwise you wouldn't be able to test things. You probably just call it something else. |
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nengard |
I create branches, but don't pull branches down |
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nengard |
I create a new branch and then apply the patch to that branch |
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nengard |
not quite the same as what I'm doing here |
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jcamins |
Uhh, yes it is. |
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jcamins |
A branch is a branch is a branch. |
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santy |
jcamins: how essential is this... perl translate install zh-Hans-TW |
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jcamins |
santy: uhhh... do you want Chinese? |
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jcamins |
If not, entirely unnecessary. |
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santy |
can I brute force install it, too? |
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santy |
ah ok |
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santy |
great |
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jcamins |
You don't need to do that at all. |
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santy |
it's just on the howto with no explanation, so I figured it could be something important |
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jcamins |
Nope. Apparently CentOS is popular in Chinese-speaking areas. :) |
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mtj |
nengard, theres a synced backup on github too, fyi -> https://github.com/Koha-Community/KohaDocs |
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halcyonCorsair |
mtj: i'm keen on any feedback you have on the chef-koha stuff in terms of specific use cases, etc |
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mtj |
halcyonCorsair, yep - will do |
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rangi |
On shitty WiFi can someone fix the wiki front page |
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jcamins |
rangi: nengard said she did. |
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* rangi |
is gone again |
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rangi |
Ta |
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nengard |
is it broken again? |
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jcamins |
nengard: doesn't look like it, no. |
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nengard |
whew |
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jcamins |
Though I might be looking at a cached copy, I guess. |
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i wonder if newer versions of mediawiki have better anti-spam systems |
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* oleonard |
whispers "Goodbye" to all the sleeping #kohaers |
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* jcamins |
isn't sleeping. |
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* jcamins |
is battling a serial. |
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* jcamins |
is losing. |
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* mveron |
just 'fixed' Bug 8796 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8796 major, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , patron cards not starting on designated card |
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is listening to new zztop :P |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5356 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f81be962578437c16> / Bug 5356: Followup: remove useless code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]96eb3c07a67f0cdf7> / Bug 5356: Followup: Add basket billing and delivery place on export pdf (layout3pages) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
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martian523 |
Hi, as I was entering a barcode for my item, the barcode number became a skype number for some reason. is there a way to fix that? |
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jcamins |
martian523: no, that's a problem with your browser. |
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martian523 |
o really? |
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martian523 |
but just that particular number, all the others are fine |
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rangi |
yes, its your browser doing autocomplete |
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rangi |
koha has utterly no idea what your skype numbers are:) |
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rangi |
in fact Koha hates skype for the proprietary annoying thing that it is |
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rangi |
(well it would if it was a human) |
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libsysguy |
anybody on used DBIx::Class? |
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libsysguy |
I can't for the life of me figure out how to do an or instead of an and |
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libsysguy |
in a where clause* |
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wajasu |
you get to be the first :) keep notes for the wiki for other folks later if you can. |
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* wajasu |
have to head out to get brake light switch so car will move out of park |
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libsysguy |
ah ha! i figured it out |
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* jcamins |
decides to call it a day, since appparently his wife got home about six hours earlier than expected. |
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jcamins |
Good night, #koha. |
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pastebot |
"libsysguy" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Where with OR" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/196 |
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libsysguy |
there is how to do an or statement with DBIx::Class |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #855: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/855/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 5356: delivery place and billing place centralised in basket management |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 5356: Followup: Add basket billing and delivery place on export pdf (layout3pages) |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 5356: Followup: remove useless code |
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jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 5356 follow-up DBRev number |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5356 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Shipping billing address improvements |
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mveron |
Good night #koha |
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mveron |
quit |
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wajasu |
libsysguy: that was just what i was thinking ;) |
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eythian |
hi |
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wajasu |
hi |
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wahanui |
hey, wajasu |
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wajasu |
ut oh |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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wajasu |
mtompset: remember the koha_perl_deps.pl enhancement to generate a cpanfile? |
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mtompset |
vaguely. |
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wajasu |
did you have any outstanding opinion. i wonder if i should submit that as an enhancement? or did you see anything wrong with it. |
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wajasu |
maybe i'll just submit it and see what the fallout/ideas come about. |
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mtompset |
Well, if I recall, the only thing I thought was strange was the way you handled the flag. |
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wajasu |
because i was dependent on the other flags? |
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mtompset |
-m -u -a -i ... those are the core flags. |
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mtompset |
your tweak added -g? as a core flag, but it behaved otherwise. |
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mtompset |
It's a good idea. I just didn't like the implementation. |
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wajasu |
i get you now. it should be an ooptional. ok. will revise. |
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mtompset |
right... so -m -g and -i -g and -u -g and -a -g would all make sense but produce different output. |
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mtompset |
and I think -g doesn't make sense in combination with a -b, does it? |
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wajasu |
thats what i intended. i was trying to see if there is value in allowing those combos. instead of just (-a -g) |
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wajasu |
you are right -b -g is not useful. |
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mtompset |
So you might need to add some sanity check on the flags. |
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wajasu |
ok. i'll do that then. |
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mtj |
wajasu, i can think of some nice other uses for your tweak too |
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wajasu |
as it is or do you want me to add more logic? |
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mtj |
… generating a cpanfile based on your installed modules, not the required modules |
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wajasu |
that's new functionality right? that would pretty much cover all bases. |
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mtj |
ie: generate both on a deb-stable box, and diff the errors, etc |
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wajasu |
gotcha. |
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mtj |
afaik, the feature doesnt exist... yet |
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wajasu |
i have been having succes with cpanm -L local . and then i do du -s -h local to see how many megabytes of usage. |
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mtj |
^^ its the nicest way yet, to spot those errors |
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wajasu |
carton has and issue with matching ExtUtils::MakeMaker version, and i like the carton show and carton tree commands, but with the "issue" carton check seems to bail. |
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wajasu |
but just with cpanm its all worht it. |
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mtj |
yeah, i spotted some cartons glitches too, ( i didnt know if it was just me, or not) |
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mtj |
cpanm and carton play pretty nice together (same author) |
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mtj |
wajasu, hmm, i was going to QA a bug for you some days ago… what was it? |
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wajasu |
somethin i signed off on for someone? |
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wajasu |
maybe 8702 for fridolyn |
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wajasu |
or libsysguy's 8798 (i just signed off on that). or 8780 (thats easy, mtopset's) |
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wajasu |
my main bug that i worked on was 8378, but that is pushed to master |
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* wajasu |
i've got to go help a friend replace a brake light switch. fun fun fun. |
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* mtompset |
sings, "Hi ho! Hi ho! Let's split the big, great wall." |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Hello everyone! Just popping on to ask a really hard question |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Question is: How would one create a report that displayed the itype BOOK separated into Fiction and Non-Fiction? |
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jcamins_away |
YoungPublicLibrarian: do you have that data in the record somewhere? |
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jcamins_away |
(note: I'm really not here) |
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jcamins_away |
(you can tell by the way I'm not responding:P) |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
lol, okay. Well, I'm not actually sure....is there a way I could look? |
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jcamins_away |
I have no idea. You'd have to ask your catalogers if there is any indication. |
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jcamins_away |
There's a chance you have literary form set for fiction. |
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jcamins_away |
But then again you might not. |
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jcamins_away |
Depends on how strict your cataloging policies have been over the last fifty years. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Hm...the call number differs for NF and F, but I don't know if that has anything to do with what I'm wanting to do... |
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jcamins_away |
If that works for you, there's a report on the wiki that should do it. |
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jcamins_away |
Anyone around who could test something for me? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Which report would that be? I looked, but I have been looking at the screen all day...may have missed it. lol |
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jcamins_away |
YoungPublicLibrarian: something about items in a call number range. |
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mtj |
jcamins_away, me perhaps? |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: does the CCSR theme load YUI properly? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Ah, yes...no I remember. I tried that one but it gave so many results that my director went cross eyed... |
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jcamins_away |
YoungPublicLibrarian: of course it did. |
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jcamins_away |
You're going to have scads. |
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* jcamins_away |
leaves again to eat dinner. |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: could you highlight me with your answer so I see it later? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
lol, yeah...so now I'm working on finding something simpler...thanks for the help though. |
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jcamins_away |
YoungPublicLibrarian: you're going to have a ton of results. |
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mtj |
jcamins_away, yep - it does :) |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: it does load YUI properly? Good. |
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jcamins_away |
Hrm. |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Thanks Jcamins, I'll keep working on it. |
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* jcamins_away |
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mtj |
left side facets are wonky tho |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #185: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/185/ |
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jenkins_koha |
nengard: Bug 8721: Fixes minor typo in AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8721 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , typo in AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout |
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jcamins_away |
mtj: yeah, YUI isn't loading. |
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jcamins_away |
I could swear I patched that, too. |
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jcamins_away |
Oh well. I'll repatch it. |
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* eythian |
uploads 3.6 and 3.8 packages |
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eythian |
mtompset: packages update with 17 minutes to spare :) |
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eythian |
*updated |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... I see it. |
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mtompset |
But the package is kept back? |
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eythian |
yes |
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eythian |
it has new dependencies, so won't upgrade as part of a normal upgrade |
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eythian |
you have to explicitly upgrade it, or do a dist-upgrade |
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eythian |
I will be emailing to that effect soon. |
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* mtompset |
begins to upgrade his Q/A area. |
