IRC log for #koha, 2012-09-19

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00:42 wajasu i'm testing bug 8702
00:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters
00:43 wajasu now i am trying to verify, so prepatch, i cataloged a record with  Jürgen  in the author,   and ren zebrasrv -v all  to see what its doing.
00:44 jcamins wajasu: bug 8702 has nothing to do with Zebra.
00:45 wajasu you are right its prefs.  i'm braindead
00:57 wajasu prepatch i added Jürgen to a couple of places in syspref value fields.  i search for it and don't get anything matching, but an info message that has a missing ü ( Jrgen ).  i patch and i still don't match to anything. but i do get the full "Jürgen" in the info message.
00:57 wajasu so its not eating the data in the form.  but the search/query might be suspect.
00:58 wajasu if it queries mysql db fields directly, maybe we need to NFC normalize the string to match.
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00:59 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:59 wajasu hi
00:59 mtompset Greetings wajasu. Hope you didn't mind your nick being used in a bug report. :)
01:00 wajasu naw, its all over the place for signoffs
01:00 mtompset bug 8780
01:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8780 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Lower dependency version for DateTime::TimeZone
01:01 wajasu i could signoff.   i've been downgrading and running with 1.20 since june.  :)
01:02 mtompset "Given that Colin says it should be okay to lower it to 1.20, and that Wajasu has purposefully tweaked his out since June (almost 3 months), I propose we lower the minimum value to 1.20 from 1.26. This will make git installs under Debian attainable."
01:02 mtompset I noted that in the bug report.
01:03 wajasu i'll signoff in a few minutes.  after what i'm working on.   bug 8702
01:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters
01:04 mtompset I wonder if it is related to the fact that libtext-unaccented-perl was not listed in debian.packages
01:05 wajasu i've been doing debian installs all day for tcohens patch, and i added libtext-unaccented-perl in my VM script. (installing koha-common wanted it)
01:06 mtompset bug 8784
01:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8784 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Missing files in debian.packages list
01:06 wajasu its not related.  this has to do with a regex that strips chars at input.
01:07 mtompset Ah.
01:12 wajasu maybe you can help me understand id i can pass this patch.  see what i irc'ed just before you logged on[…]2-09-19#i_1081185
01:12 mtompset Oh, I was just noticing line 298 on that patch for bug 8702... is it possible to trigger a search without searchfield being set?
01:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters
01:14 mtompset Is it searching syspref values or syspref keys?
01:14 mtompset key (eg. IntranetFavicon)
01:15 wajasu thats the action that is sent in when one presses the search button. the support multiple commands onthe page, so the "op" is the differentiator.
01:15 wajasu i don't know what its searching (i though any text matching)
01:16 mtompset Try switching languages.
01:16 mtompset Find text in the descriptions which have an accented character.
01:17 mtompset Then search for it.
01:17 wajasu i know if i search for "subdivisions"  it finds the entry with that in the value field.
01:17 wajasu good idea
01:18 wajasu now if i can.
01:18 wajasu i only have enlish on my staf IF
01:19 wajasu i might have to generate/translations
01:19 * mtompset nods.
01:19 wajasu or manually stick it in the db text :)
01:23 mtompset oh yuck.
01:23 mtompset Maybe.
01:24 wajasu i always document my testplan so QA can understand, and the original patch writer can cry wolf if i misunderstood what they needed. lets see.
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01:36 wajasu I added  "Jürgen" to the explanation column for ExportWithCsvProfile syspref.   it didn't find it.  maybe the search string needs to be NFC normailzed. lets see if i can find the query.
01:54 mtompset It would be much easier to switch languages. ;)
02:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #841 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago)
02:09 * wajasu taking a break.
02:10 mtompset I'm just tweaking out stylesheets right now.
02:10 mtompset Need to make sure the color.css reflects our colour scheme properly.
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02:19 mtompset That was a nice blip.
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02:30 mtompset *ping* Anyone here now? :)
02:40 mtompset Greetings, ago43
02:47 ago43 hi, mtompset!
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02:56 wajasu here still
03:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #841: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/841/
03:28 halcyonCorsair rangi: yo
03:29 rangi heya
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03:37 wajasu rangi:  bug 8702  patch seems to enable one to pass "Jürgen" (things with accents/diacritics/utf8  for possible search and match in sysprefs search.  i can see the information message doesn't drop the ü anymore.
03:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters
03:38 wajasu but i wondered if the patch was to enable an actual match in "explanation" text.
03:38 wajasu nothing that fancy in the patch itself.  but wouldn't that be the goal?
03:38 wajasu or do i need to switch languages
03:39 wajasu like mtompset suggested
03:39 rangi ive no idea, i didnt write that patch
03:39 wajasu i wish test plans were a requirement
03:39 mtompset I know there was an email saying people should include test plans.
03:40 mtompset In fact, I have now gone through the trouble of putting a test plan BEFORE I put the patch up.
03:40 melomind I'm looking for information regarding required hardware in order to set up KOHA for our small historical society library.  Is this the proper forum for that?  If not, could someone point me in the right direction?
03:40 rangi nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though
03:40 rangi melomind: the mailing list is probably better
03:40 mtompset It's just considerate for testers and QA'rs.
03:41 melomind I'll check there.  Thanks.
03:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #180 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
03:43 mtompset tends to focus on software requirements. I think checking the list is the best idea.
03:49 halcyonCorsair rangi: http://halcyoncorsair.tumblr.c[…]rom-git-with-chef
03:50 halcyonCorsair pt 1
03:50 halcyonCorsair now i need to mention it on the wiki somewhere I guess?
03:51 mtompset If it is a page about koha, wouldn't you want it ON the wiki?
03:51 * mtompset is just throwing the idea out there.
03:51 rangi halcyonCorsair: cool ;)
03:52 halcyonCorsair mtompset: sure, but I wanted to get it out there while it 'in progress', I'm travelling around a bit, so I do what I can when I can
03:52 halcyonCorsair installation? development sections?
03:53 mtompset This seems to be an advanced installation.
03:54 mtompset You may wish to run it by mtj the installation documentation manager. ;)
03:55 rangi id put it under dev
03:55 mtompset Hmmm... good point, you put it under installation and most people who aren't familiar with anything are going to start doing it.
03:55 rangi yep
03:56 mtompset Oh, and try to reword it to avoid keywords people might use for installation. ;)
04:03 halcyonCorsair A *very* quickly wikified page:[…]_Chef_and_Vagrant
04:03 halcyonCorsair err, i'll just adjust those categories
04:04 halcyonCorsair anyway, bedtime
04:04 halcyonCorsair feel free to leave me feedback, err, somehow ;)
04:07 mtj halcyonCorsair, /me love the bike stuff on yr blog :p
04:07 wajasu i figured it out.  the language specific .pref files in koha-tmpl and that is the text that is matched against.   So once I put an accented character I was able to match in the search for 8702.  now i can signoff.
04:08 mtj ' …but am soon alone with the great metal beasts' :)
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04:22 cait good morning #koha
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04:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #180: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/180/
04:45 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7690: hidelostitems not working in Normal Display
04:45 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8727 Minor stylistic change to help text
04:45 jenkins_koha * mtompset: Bug 8713 - Warning message triggered by clicking Keywords to MARC mapping
04:45 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8765 - Add series title to intranet search results
04:45 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8765 follow-up replace tabs by spaces
04:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7690 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , hidelostitems not working in Normal Display
04:45 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 8336 Support Sip Renewal Transaction
04:45 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8336 follow-up, tabs to space
04:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8727 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Correct help text in
04:45 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8275: xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called
04:45 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3782: Remove broken z39.50 targets from sample files
04:45 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 8717 - Wrong subscription notes are showing in catalogue detail view of serials in staff client
04:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8713 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Warning message triggered by clicking keyword to marc mapping.
04:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8765 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add series title to intranet search results
04:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8336 major, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , SIP Server does not process renewal transaction correctly
04:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called
04:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3782 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , delivered z39.50 targets wrong for NY Public Library and NY University Library
04:45 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8717 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Wrong subscription notes are showing in catalogue detail view of serials in staff client
04:45 mtompset Sweet. It's always need to see a patch pushed through. :)
04:48 cait :)
04:48 cait it is
04:58 libsysguy cait you're back awake?
05:01 wajasu mtompset: just signed off on your 8780
05:03 mtompset wajasu++ # thanks for the sign off.
05:03 cait libsysguy: kind of
05:03 cait why are you still here?
05:04 * cait is still waking up :)
05:04 libsysguy I can't sleep
05:04 cait oh
05:04 libsysguy so I thought I'd work on my calendar patch
05:04 cait milk and honey? a really boring book?
05:04 cait oh or that :)
05:04 libsysguy heh yeah the calendar is kind of boring
05:04 cait I wnt to work on serials acquisition patches
05:05 libsysguy did that one patch from biblibre make it though
05:05 mtompset can we keep the datetime::BLAH dependencies to a minimum? ;)
05:05 cait there are 2 patches
05:05 libsysguy actually I just added some more mtompset
05:05 cait one needs the other to make the feature complete, took me a while to figure it out
05:05 libsysguy why do you not want them?
05:05 cait libsysguy: I think he means the version because that cuased some problems :)
05:05 libsysguy ohhh
05:06 libsysguy well I am introducing DateTime::Event::ICal
05:06 libsysguy for recurrence operations
05:06 libsysguy infinite recurrsions
05:08 libsysguy also DateTime::Format::ICal (maybe)
05:08 mtompset NOOOOOOOOOOOO! ;)
05:08 libsysguy I think i can remove that one actually
05:08 mtompset I already saw that. :)
05:08 libsysguy have you been peeking at my code mtompset ;)
05:08 mtompset It made it into
05:09 libsysguy yayy!!
05:09 mtompset Or something at least triggered an install of it.
05:09 mtompset Backing out DateTime perl libraries is a PAIN!
05:10 mtompset I ended up having to remove libxml-rss-perl as well to get them out.
05:10 libsysguy packages?
05:10 wahanui packages is at
05:11 mtompset Yes, packages removing with dpkg -r.
05:11 libsysguy you should take that up with the package maintainer then :p
05:11 mtompset Yes, but I have a package user here. It's easier to shoot the messenger. ;)
05:13 * libsysguy recommends CPAN for all your versioned module needs :p
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05:16 cait hi sophie_m - early! :)
05:16 sophie_m Hello cait
05:17 sophie_m At home, so no traffic ;-)
05:17 cait :)
05:19 * mtompset gives libsysguy the evil eye, "Don't joke about such vile things which prevent simplicity of upgrades."
05:21 libsysguy if you use cpan minus its almost as easy as apt :p
05:23 mtompset Let's just CPAN everything! ;)
05:24 libsysguy sometimes it just has to be done
05:24 libsysguy for old times sake
05:24 libsysguy just to make you really appreciate apt
05:28 * wajasu wonders if we can make a move to  carton (with cpanfile support) and possibly a loclal::lib dependency deb package for each release.
05:29 * cait does a git pull - feels nice every single time
05:29 wajasu :)
05:30 cait ok
05:30 cait now it stopped feeling nice
05:30 cait Template process failed: file error - /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-t​mpl/prog/de-DE/modules/installer/ not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/ line 132
05:30 cait ah, de-DE
05:31 libsysguy I have a question about repeatable_holidays
05:31 libsysguy does anybody have good data for the weekday selection bit
05:31 cait never mind, figured it out
05:31 libsysguy it looks like it is stored as an array
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06:03 wajasu just saw that 4222. whoa!
06:08 cait bug 4222
06:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client
06:08 cait wajasu: it got really close :(
06:08 cait wajasu: and we really should fix the FA framework
06:08 wajasu i mentioned it to my user, and he is storing spine labels in that field (i think).
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06:11 wajasu whats up with FA? a bug in mind?  I'm just scanning for  things that failedQA  that really need to make the freeze that might be resurrected.
06:16 cait wajasu: it's in the internal notes bug
06:16 cait wajasu: the fa framework still links to items.paidfor
06:16 cait which is bad
06:16 cait because we removed that link from all other frameworks, except that one
06:16 cait so it's an inconsistency in how the data is saved to the database
06:17 cait bah, and the stupid branch search is not working here :(
06:17 cait that was referring to what I am testing right now
06:18 mtj wajasu, re: carton i think it might be a great idea, for distros without packages, at least...
06:19 wajasu iINSTALL.otherdistro
06:19 alex_a1 bonjour
06:20 mtj … it looks like carton supports module versioning, thats its crucial feature
06:21 mtj carton would save sysadmins playing russian-roulette with pulling random modules from CPAN
06:22 wajasu i am testing an idea for BDD tests, and I might stick a cpanfile in there, so we can have test deps. to prove it out. then once folks like it, we can see if they want to mainstream it.
06:22 mtj … we could easily build a carton file, from koha's
06:23 mtompset ARG! There is no field validation on syspref entry of gist (at least).
06:23 wajasu my archlinux has cpanm, and i used that to bootstract carton.  then after that all is roses.  and metacpan is there.
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06:23 mtompset I just typed "a" for the tax rate.
06:23 mtj then autogen the carton file before every Koha release
06:23 wajasu mtj: yes.
06:24 mtj sounds like a useful 'pet project' :)
06:25 * mtompset mutters, "Let's assume the user has a valid value and work from there."
06:26 mtj wajasu,  afaik LL use carton (and perlbrew?) for their thing, so perhaps take a peek in their repo too
06:27 pastebot "wajasu" at pasted "carton test" (94 lines) at
06:28 wajasu i did this a few minutes ago to see what it takes to build a .deb
06:29 wajasu i'm going to test  perlbrew + carton to  maybe get more isolated from the host OS.
06:30 wajasu what used to take me 4-5 hours, takes 5 minutes.
06:32 mtj its nice to think that carton could be the solution to a CPAN versioning problem, thats never been fixed for Koha :)
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06:41 reiveune hello
06:43 mtompset BTW, I assume you saw my comment on your bug report, mtj?
06:45 mtj sorry, i havent checked today.. bug number?
06:46 cait *sigh*
06:46 cait ok, I won't finish this this morning
06:46 mtj … i get lots of bugs-emails everyday via QA stuff :/
06:46 cait anyway... if someone wants to take a look at bug 8415 and bug 8456 - feedback appreciated
06:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition
06:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription
06:47 cait I would really really like to see that go into 3.10
06:47 cait hi matts
06:47 matts hi !
06:47 cait :)
06:48 cait ok, time to leave - bbiab
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06:53 mtj mtompset, your questions/suggestions are all good to me,  (re: 8402 ?)
06:54 mtompset Right, I totally agree there needs to be a central point which regenerates things.
06:54 mtompset It will make things more consistent across the board.
06:55 mtj but, its a tricky general problem, lets fix it incrementally
06:55 mtompset Well, the format of debian/control is different than what is expected in debian.packages (or ubuntu.packages)
06:56 mtompset I think is the focal point.
06:56 mtj i agree
06:56 mtompset But perhaps that is wrong. Perhaps debian/control really is?
06:57 mtompset This is where the building folk should be able to make a good call.
06:57 mtj no, that file is debian specific?!
06:58 mtompset It may be...
06:58 mtompset But perhaps the problem is people think of the lib name rather than the perl lib name when extending.
06:59 mtompset Then question is ... does ever fall behind debian/control?
06:59 mtj … and um, contains no version info too
07:00 mtompset Perhaps the version information is an after thought added for compatibility when people use a different OS.
07:01 mtompset Back to patching those .packages files. ;)
07:02 mtj the goal is to generate perl deps from a *single* file, there are many ways to do it
07:02 mtompset Did you notice list-deps?
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07:03 mtompset It's a perl version of what I scripted without knowing about it.
07:03 mtompset My shell script is a bit more functional.
07:04 mtompset Excuse me... my ride is here.
07:06 mtj hmm, i guess it is possible to use debian/control as the only dependancies file, too...
07:07 mbalmer @wunder nuremberg
07:07 huginn mbalmer: The current temperature in Sugarloaf Mountain, Sugarloaf, Pennsylvania is 13.6°C (3:04 AM EDT on September 19, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:08 mbalmer @wunder nürnberg
07:08 huginn mbalmer: The current temperature in Fuerth, Fuerth, Germany is 11.3°C (9:00 AM CEST on September 19, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
07:09 mtj … but that just feels like a really complex and problematic way to do it, for no advantage
07:10 * mtj sticks that back on the too-hard pile
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07:23 mtj mtompset, ive been thinking, there might be some advantages to using debian/control as the single dep file
07:25 mtompset The key problem is that in addition to perl library, koha requires other things (eg. MySQL, Apache)
07:25 mtompset debian/control would have those listed, but the difficulty is the naming convention across OS's may not be consistent.
07:26 mtj … it would give us the most conservative list of modules (and their minimum version) needed for a stable koha
07:27 mtompset That is true.
07:28 mtj a general dependancies file would need to be compiled from a debian-stable system, for every release
07:28 mtompset Compare the minimum versions against and we could check if the min_vers are really correct.
07:28 mtj yeah, thats it :)
07:28 mtj it would reveal/detect errors , like your date::timezone version bug
07:31 magnuse well this is weird: on one of my installations, when i go to cataloguing and choose the default framework it refuses to show. nothing in the logs and nothing in the firebug js console. other frameworks work fine and default framework works fine on other installations
07:33 mtj dump your good/bad frameworks to files and diff them
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07:34 mtj .. then load them into the other system, and test again - any difference?
07:34 magnuse yeah, might have to do that
07:35 mtj ok, i gotta scoot now
07:36 magnuse have fun mtj
07:37 mtj thanks for the debian/control idea mtompset - i think it could be a good one
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07:52 drojf good morning #koha
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07:59 kf good morning #koha
07:59 mbalmer off to nuremberg
08:00 drojf hi kf
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08:06 kf hi drojf
08:06 kf now I missed mb
08:06 kf good morning paul_p
08:07 drojf kf: nuremberg is not that far away ;)
08:19 * mtompset likes git blame.
08:20 mtompset Now I can know that paul_p didn't thoroughly test last year. ;)
08:20 paul_p mtompset ?
08:20 wahanui mtompset is probably trying to do a variety of projects in less than three months!
08:20 * mtompset grins.
08:20 mtompset I'm looking at acqui/
08:21 mtompset there is an if ($gist) line.
08:21 mtompset it belongs to you.
08:21 mtompset So I'm assuming that you didn't check the error logs for uninitialized variable warnings. :)
08:21 mtompset nothing terrible.
08:22 mtompset Just error log floody.
08:24 kf ah I ran into that this morning
08:24 kf neworderempty does that too
08:24 mtompset oh wait... used the git blame wrong... it's Jean-Andre Santoni.
08:24 mtompset He added the lines which trigger the errors.
08:24 mtompset Anyways... I'm going to patch that up now.
08:25 kf paul_p: do you think thre is a chance Joubu could take a look at bug 8456?
08:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription
08:25 mtompset Sorry, I was wrong, paul_p. :)
08:26 kf paul_p: I would really like to see the ordering of serials being improved for 3.10 - and we are close
08:27 kf Amit did rebase some of biblibre's patches and I fixed some problems in bug 8415, but the part that is missing is for the ordering forms now
08:27 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition
08:28 mtompset Is any of that going to affect
08:29 kf hm
08:29 kf I think it adds a link there
08:29 kf look at the patch for the latter bug
08:45 kf magnuse: around? :)
08:46 magnuse yup
08:46 kf bug 8558 :)
08:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Better confirmation message for importing frameworks
08:47 kf maybe we should mark mine or yours duplicate?
08:47 kf I thought it was annoying that it warns but doesn't tell which framework I am going to overlay
08:48 magnuse i'll mark mine as a duplicate
08:48 kf and good morning .)
08:48 magnuse yeah, kia ora!
08:49 magnuse done
08:50 kf :)
08:50 kf now we only have to find someone for fixing it :P
08:50 magnuse hmf. default framework does not display. i export it, create a new framework, import the default into that and it displays without any problems!
08:50 magnuse kf: yeah!
08:50 kf oh
08:51 kf I never tried witht he defualt framework
08:51 kf only with others
08:51 magnuse my current problem is not related to 8558...
08:51 magnuse i have trouble displaying a default framework when i try to catalogue
08:54 kf nothing in the logs?
08:55 magnuse nothing useful
08:56 magnuse complaints about some missing yui files, but i get the same complaints for the frameworks that do work
08:56 kf annoying
08:56 kf js error?
08:57 magnuse not really
08:58 magnuse but there is a small difference...
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09:01 mtompset oh... 3.8.4 package was missing a directory that the 3.8.4 tarball had.
09:02 mtompset Yep. That's the problem.
09:02 mtompset download the tarball, and paste those suckers in place.
09:02 magnuse but it works for other installations running off the same package install...
09:03 mtompset because they upgraded?
09:03 mtompset the fresh install has that problem.
09:03 magnuse no, i have several instances running off one package install, and they behave differently
09:04 magnuse on the same server
09:04 mtompset I don't understand multiple instances.
09:05 mtompset Do they share the /usr/share/koha/intranet and opac, etc. directories?
09:05 magnuse yup
09:05 mtompset And are these instances the same version?
09:05 magnuse i did "koha-create a" and "koha-create b" on the same server - now a has the problem and b does not
09:06 magnuse that would lead me to think it is a data problem, more than a code problem...
09:06 mtompset does the plugin directory exist?
09:07 magnuse lemme check
09:07 mtompset There could be a syspref that turns off dependency on that.
09:07 mtompset (I'm guessing)
09:08 mtompset Oh, and it is plugins. My bad. :)
09:09 magnuse nope, no plugins dir in /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs​/opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/
09:09 mtompset not opac, intranet.
09:10 magnuse um, oops :-)
09:10 magnuse nope, no plugins in /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs​/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/ either
09:11 mtompset If you have a git, you'll notice it is there.
09:11 mtompset If you grab a tarball, you'll notice it is there.
09:12 mtompset I don't know why it doesn't error for one, but the other. Stale CSS?
09:12 mtompset But you probably should grab that dir and whack it into place.
09:16 magnuse i just did. it fixed the js errors (and a nice "loading" widget is displayed), but the Default framework is still not displayed (but the copy of it is)
09:16 magnuse is there a bug for that missing plugins dir, btw?
09:17 kf hmdon't remember one
09:17 magnuse bug 5024
09:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5024 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Debian packages don't include YUI plugins
09:18 magnuse Reported: 2010-07-16
09:18 wahanui 1987
09:18 magnuse oops :-)
09:18 magnuse thanks wahanui, that's good to know
09:19 * magnuse gives eythian a nudge
09:19 mtompset magnuse: it was probably just a packaging problem.
09:19 mtompset Yes, let's all point at eythian. ;)
09:19 eythian give me more hours in a day instead maybe :)
09:19 magnuse hehe
09:20 magnuse s/nudge/friendly, non-stressful nudge/
09:25 kf hi eythian
09:25 eythian hi
09:25 kf we were just talking about you
09:25 kf coworker back from vacation asking about the workshop :)
09:25 eythian heh OK
09:25 kf btw the printers still hate me...
09:26 eythian <-- kf
09:31 * mtompset laughs, "Yes, that is extreme printer hate."
09:31 * kf hi
09:31 * kf thinks it's very reasonable behaviour
09:33 * mtompset laughs.
09:33 mtompset Not if you are the one paying for the printer.
09:35 mtompset ARG! son loosened internet cable again.
09:36 eythian electrify the outside?
09:36 mtompset I need a better layout, so he can't do that.
09:45 drojf heh that video shows pretty much what i did to my epson "i know you never print in colour, but colour is empty again and why would i let you print black when colour is empty?" inkjet printer after i bought a bw laser printer
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09:50 mtompset okay, improved a little.
09:51 kf hm
09:51 kf wondering
09:51 kf do we have to teach the translation scripts about the new mobile theme?
09:51 mtompset That's a jcamins problem. ;)
09:51 mtompset Well, jcamins_away problem. :)
09:53 kf well
09:53 kf a lot of people want this to go in
09:53 mtompset What does a "warning: 1 line adds whitespace errors." mean?
09:53 kf that there is white space where it shouldn't be
09:54 kf at the end of a line for example
09:54 kf whitespace?
09:54 wahanui whitespace is probably[…]patches-with-git/
09:54 kf there
09:55 mtompset kf++ #thanks for the link.
09:55 kf it's very useful
09:59 mtompset I'll reset my 3.8.x and see if the patch applies back to it.
10:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8597' <[…]604763f832a5c0574> / Bug 8597 follow-up translation issues <[…]d9e6251c5292ca3d3> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8597' <[…]commitdiff;h=3847
10:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #842 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago)
10:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7751 follow-up adding updatedatabase for sysprefs decreateLoanHighHolds* <[…]922a81f9b3b687935>
10:18 kf paul_p++
10:32 mtompset things are getting pushed like crazy.
10:45 kf we are close to the deadline
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11:10 mtompset okay... bug 8788 logged and loaded.
11:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8788 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Viewing basket for acquisitions triggers error log entries.
11:10 koyauni hi guys, is there anyway you can attach an eSoruce to its records,
11:10 jcamins_away kf: nope.
11:10 koyauni is filed 856 for this propose
11:10 kf jcamins_away: ?
11:11 mtompset I think jcamins_away meant no to koyauni
11:11 mtompset And yes, I believe that is what 856 is for.
11:11 koyauni ohh, so the NO is mine, and there no way
11:11 jcamins_away mtompset: no, I meant "no, we don't need to teach the translation scripts about the new field."
11:11 jcamins_away *theme
11:11 mtompset Ah... okay, delayed response. Cluing in. :)
11:12 mtompset how do you spell clue-ing?
11:12 jcamins_away koyauni: yes, that's what field 856 is for.
11:12 kf jcamins_away: so you tested? :)
11:13 jcamins_away kf: I did. I'll test again, though.
11:13 * mtompset let's out his breath, "WHEW!"
11:13 jcamins_away There is the possibility that we *do* need to teach the translator, and what I determined was that it was easy to fix.
11:13 mtompset kf, you should know jcamins_away is a test freak. ;)
11:14 kf jcamins: something in the back of my mind said: maybe add another path
11:14 mtompset Speaking of tests, jcamins. I almost felt the urge to write something with www::mechanize.
11:14 kf but I haven't tested, I added a note so I wouldn't forget
11:15 mtompset But I'd thought I'd ask you for some reference/example.
11:15 jcamins kf: something in the back of my mind said "but you added another path," after I answered your question.
11:15 jcamins mtompset: bug 8300
11:15 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
11:16 kf jcamins: lol - so who is sitting in the other's mind whispering now?
11:16 koyauni I put data in 856 but it does nto show up in dtail view
11:16 kf which fields did you use?
11:17 kf subfields I mean
11:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #842: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/842/
11:18 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: Invoices management improvement
11:18 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: perltidy on added files
11:18 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5339 follow-up DBRev
11:18 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8597 follow-up: add missing lib files
11:18 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8597 follow-up translation issues
11:18 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 7751 follow-up adding updatedatabase for sysprefs decreateLoanHighHolds*
11:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Parcel closing in acq
11:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view
11:18 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds
11:23 magnuse looks like a memcached restart solved my problem with the default framework - corrupted cache, perhaps?
11:25 mtompset I don't have anything memcached, but the next unlogged bug I was going to look at seemed related to $framework not being defined.
11:25 mtompset jcamins: It says => for the Tests::More... I can't see where the tests are?
11:27 mtompset There's 20 tests in there?
11:28 jcamins mtompset: Test::WWW:Mechanize.
11:28 jcamins It does tests.
11:28 mtompset So each $agent-> is a test?
11:30 jcamins Some are, some aren't.
11:30 jcamins The perldoc for Test::WWW::Mechanize lists all the possible tests.
11:31 mtompset Okay.
11:31 mtompset Dumb question. What if I don't know how many tests it will do?
11:31 mtompset (eg. write some sort of looping click mess)
11:32 jcamins Put done_testing; at the end, and don't give a number of tests at the beginning.
11:33 mtompset Sweet... sounds like I could have a click-happy testing run.
11:33 mtj 'There are cases when you will not know beforehand how many tests your script is going to run. In this case, you can declare your tests at the end.'
11:33 mtj[…]/lib/Test/
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11:40 * mtompset sighs. Is there a default framework setting somewhere in Koha?
11:42 mtj afaik, no, its on a todo list somewhere
11:42 mtj if you goof the frameworks, just drop/load them again from the shell
11:43 mtompset The reason I ask is because of
11:43 mtompset The script is called without a framework code.
11:44 mtompset Then it tries to go out to whereever and finds nothing matches, because there's no framework code.
11:44 mtompset all the while spamming the error logs.
11:45 jcamins mtompset: the default framework doesn't have a framework code.
11:45 jcamins You probably just want to put ||= '' somewhere.
11:46 mtompset Okay, so " ||  q{}"
11:47 jcamins That'd be my guess.
11:52 mtompset I think I'll jump back to my backup project. My brain is fried.
11:52 mtompset I really hate finding a two bugs in close vicinity.
11:52 jcamins Bug 8633.
11:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8633 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Translate script hardcoded to prog template
11:53 jcamins We do need to add ccsr.
11:53 jcamins I'd forgotten that fredericd objected to it.
11:54 fredericd jcamins: hello!
11:54 jcamins fredericd: hello. :)
11:55 fredericd Chris reply is fine for me.
11:55 fredericd Do you have a patch? Do you want one from me?
11:56 jcamins fredericd: I do not have a general patch. If you are able to write a patch, I would trust it a lot more than I would trust what I can come up with. ;)
11:57 * fredericd was reading that yesterday:[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC
11:57 fredericd impressive
11:57 jcamins fredericd: I think you mean "crazy" :P
11:57 mtompset All hail the background indexing king. :)
11:57 fredericd :-)
12:00 mtompset Nice to see you say something on the channel while I'm here, fredericd. :)
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12:01 mtompset Anyways, I'm off. I have some database splitting to do.
12:01 mtompset Good day (24 hour period) everyone.
12:15 jcamins I guess it's morning.
12:15 jcamins (the cat wants breakfast)
12:16 kf :)
12:18 jcamins Now he is contemplating my degrees.
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12:21 oleonard Hi #koha
12:23 kf hi oleonard
12:23 * kf thinks 3.10 is shaping up nicely
12:23 kf lots of cool features waiting to be explored and documented
12:23 kf and tested tested tested during the feature freeze
12:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #843 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago)
12:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7993' <[…]d9b941a5ddec6470f> / Bug 7993 follow-up to fix POD DOC <[…]93bae644c6333c524>
12:28 magnuse kf: yeah, that would be a good time to write automated tests ala bug 8300
12:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
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12:29 jcamins It's *always* a good time to write mechanized tests.
12:29 * druthb sneaks in
12:29 kf hi druthb
12:32 * jcamins waves.
12:33 magnuse \o/
12:33 magnuse jcamins: true, of course! ;-)
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12:46 fredericd druthb++ (as translation manager)
12:46 kf fredericd++ for being a great translation manager
12:47 druthb :)  Thanks, fredericd.    I'm looking forward to it.  You've done a great job; those are big shoes for me to fill.
12:47 druthb fredericd++
12:47 druthb Just need to figure out what needs handing off, and how, at some point.
12:48 fredericd druthb: You can count on me for the transition
12:49 druthb I'm planning to have a new Pootle server spun up in the next week or two, ready to go.  Other than that, any prep work I should be doin'?
12:51 * oleonard cheers druthb
12:51 fredericd Not much more. When you're ready drop me a line: I will document my workflow on the Koha wiki, and give you a script I use to automatize conversion between Koha language naming convetion and Pootle one
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12:52 druthb Excellent!  Thanks!
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12:53 kf druthb++ and fredericd++ :)
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12:54 magnuse yeah! druthb++ and fredericd++
12:56 koyauni do you know any good software to cat number process please
13:09 * paul_p head to bug 2060 ...
13:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
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13:10 paul_p fredericd = as you're around, I need help to test bug 7421 !!!
13:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7421 enhancement, P4, ---, frederic, Passed QA , UNIMARC authorities DOM indexing mode
13:15 fredericd paul_p: vu
13:16 * paul_p retreat from bug 2060, as it does not apply :(
13:16 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Patch doesn't apply , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
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13:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #843: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/843/
13:33 jenkins_koha Paul Poulain: Bug 7993 follow-up to fix POD DOC
13:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies
13:35 kf paul_p: oh :( and jcamins_away just left
13:42 paul_p OK, ladies & men, the "passed QA" queue is empty ! (the 8215 and 7421 being waiting for answers or actions)
13:43 kf paul_p++ :)
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13:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8624: Move famfamfam out of theme directory <[…]b719d007825563d3d> / Bug 6689 [Follow-up] Improve styling of table pager <[…]6e97862684865d138> / Bug 7401 - Shelving Location facet <[…]tdiff;h=881ee1b1a
13:53 kf hm
13:53 kf hmm
13:53 kf the mail from Seth Mayo on the list--- I had that happening in my dev installation
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13:54 mveron Hi #koha
13:54 kf hi mveron
13:55 * mveron waves to kf
13:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #844 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago)
14:03 jcamins_away paul_p: rebasing 2060 now.
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14:12 jcamins_away paul_p: sorry, not anymore! :P
14:12 samuel hi everybody
14:12 jcamins That said, paul_p++
14:12 samuel what does it mean a message like this 16:07:54-19/09 zebraidx(4197) [warn] Cannot access path /tmp/7HwXhpGqlW/biblio [No such file or directory]  -->i've just seen that in my log
14:14 jcamins samuel: most likely it means that either A) you don't have any bib records or B) your Koha user doesn't have permissions to write to /tmp
14:15 tcohen greetings #koha
14:16 jcamins Greetings, tcohen.
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14:17 kf wb drojf
14:17 drojf hello again :)
14:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6448' <[…]8246db56027931cac> / Bug 6448 - carp on invalid barcode <[…]15a018d494f063843> / Bug 8185: Change some more strings from Italian to English <[…]it;a=commitdiff;h
14:27 kf hm
14:27 kf does someone know to which feature the tables collections and collections_tracking belong?
14:27 kf I can't remember seeing htem in a database before
14:29 jcamins Rotating collections.
14:29 kf oh
14:29 jcamins Dead code?
14:29 kf why do we have the tables?
14:29 kf yeah - but it's only hidden, it's still there in Koha
14:29 jcamins Ah. I guess that's why we still have the tables.
14:38 tcohen can't we just delete that so I don't hear about for the rest of my life?
14:39 kf tcohen: I would think we can
14:39 kf isn't there a bug even? hmm
14:40 jcamins Replace it with something that puts a message in syslog: "You were using zebraqueue_daemon. Go set up your cron jobs."
14:42 tcohen or "Use koha-index-daemon (from Koha::Contrib::Tamil) instead"?
14:43 jcamins Or that.
14:54 libsysguy[…]48433711920586753
14:55 libsysguy[…]48433862319931394
14:55 jcamins Bet NateC is jealous.
14:59 kf NateC?
14:59 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
14:59 drojf lol
15:00 santy Hi everybody! Say you have an ubuntu ext4 500GB LVM filesystem just for koha 3.8... what would you recommend sizewise for this partitions: / (containing bin, sbin, dev and root), /usr, /var, /boot, /home, /opt and /tmp?
15:01 jcamins santy: lots of space for /var
15:01 jcamins santy: but I don't have exact numbers
15:02 santy for tmp too?... yesterday I noticed that zebra indexing quite uses tmp
15:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #844: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/844/
15:03 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7401 - Shelving Location facet
15:03 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 6689 [Follow-up] Improve styling of table pager
15:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8624: Move famfamfam out of theme directory
15:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Shelving Location facet instead of Branch facet when only 1 branch configured
15:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve styling of table pager
15:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8624 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , famfamfam should be outside theme directory
15:03 jcamins A fair amount of space for /tmp is a good idea, but there is an upper boundary for that- twice the size of the MARC records in your catalog converted to XML.
15:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #845 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago)
15:04 jcamins There's no upper limit, really, on /var.
15:06 tcohen you can always put all the available space for /var and make a symlink /tmp -> /var/tmp
15:06 jcamins (though I wouldn't consider it *likely* that you're going to need more than... 80GB?)
15:06 jcamins tcohen++ # for being clever
15:06 jcamins paul_p: I rebased bug 2060.
15:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
15:07 santy ok, do you have an estimate for an average marc21 xml record size? 1K?
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15:08 jcamins santy: I do not, but that sounds reasonable. Double it to 2 because space is cheap?
15:08 santy ok
15:08 tcohen 50GB for / should be more than enough
15:08 santy there will probably be 500k records
15:09 tcohen /dev/xvda1       20G   15G  3.9G  80% /
15:09 santy at most
15:09 tcohen /dev/xvdc1       78G   29G   46G  39% /var
15:09 tcohen (mysql is on a sepatare server in our setup)
15:09 santy mysql will be on the same machine
15:09 tcohen Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
15:11 tcohen what I mean to say is that 50GB for /, some GB for swap and the rest for /var
15:11 tcohen will be ok
15:11 jcamins I think I have 8GB for / and 20GB for /usr
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15:14 wajasu note: /tmp is sometimes a tmpfs or shm in RAM , and in some distros(VPSes and such) is cleaned at reboot.  /var/tmp should be large and is not usually/supposed to be auto cleaned at reboot.
15:14 tcohen jcamins, in recent 3.8.x i found that this was added to koha-conf.xml
15:14 tcohen <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>
15:14 tcohen <zebra_auth_index_mode>dom</zebra_auth_index_mode>
15:15 tcohen (dom/grs1) who uses that?
15:15 jcamins tcohen: yes, DOM was pushed to 3.8.2
15:15 tcohen i actually dont have that in my production servers
15:15 tcohen so i guess i'm using grs1
15:15 jcamins Yes, they're using grs1.
15:15 santy is tmp cleaning at reboot desirable/undesirable/inconsecuential for koha
15:15 jcamins Any installations pre-DOM will remain GRS1.
15:16 jcamins santy: it doesn't make a difference, since nothing important is stored in /tmp.
15:16 jcamins That said, you'll reboot so infrequently that you won't notice.
15:16 tcohen may I encounter problems if updating my .conf files and reindex?
15:16 jcamins tcohen: you'll need the new Zebra config files as well.
15:17 jcamins Once you have them, all you need to do is set the index modes to DOM, and point Zebra at the *-dom.cfg files.
15:21 paul_p jcamins yeahhh !!! bug 2060 works nicely !!!
15:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
15:21 paul_p (in UNIMARC, with diacritics, and all that sort of things !!!)
15:21 jcamins Woohoo!
15:22 paul_p Lycée d'état,  Besançon, ...
15:22 jcamins paul_p: and now that you have it working, aren't you amazed that you survived years without the ability to import authorities from the staff client?
15:22 paul_p jcamins frankly ? not at all :D
15:22 paul_p I think I could have lived for years without this feature :D :D
15:23 paul_p (speaking personnally, not as library support provider)
15:23 jcamins paul_p: heh. Well, *I* have long missed this feature. :P
15:24 wajasu is it getting about time to regen a new, or will that happen after 3.10.  I use it for reference alot.
15:24 jcamins wajasu: probably it is.
15:25 tcohen feature freeze may be the time to do it
15:25 wajasu yeah, thats what I thought.
15:27 wajasu when i ran a DBIx schema loader tool, it complains about some belongs_to/has_many column that is nullable.
15:30 wajasu kf: 8415 - do you just need signoff on the followup?   do you want me to investigate how we may create an order without being force to create items?
15:37 * oleonard grumbles that the rotating collections code should be removed since it never worked properly and has never been updated
15:37 * jcamins doesn't know what it is, but thinks you're probably right.
15:41 oleonard Anyone else care to comment on Bug 8570?
15:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Signed Off , Add pagination to the Z39.50 results page
15:42 * jcamins defers to you on this.
15:46 jcamins I am comfortable with it being included on the basis of your signoff, provided the code passes QA.
15:48 oleonard *sigh* a productive morning-killing meeting is still a morning-killing meeting.
15:53 wajasu whenever i do a z3950 search i get a popup with search fields and servers. fine.  but after i search, the results popup/form has a table and the links on the right are always cut off (I have to resize to click import) is that desired? or should i add an enhancement bug?
15:53 oleonard wajasu: You can't accurately predict the size the table will need
15:53 jcamins wajasu: that's why you can click anywhere in the table to bring the links up.
15:56 wajasu oooh! an easter egg popup link navigator.
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15:59 wajasu that suffices.  since so many results are high, i just thought moving the links to be stacked in the first column would work. but this works.
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16:10 jenkins_koha * tajoli: Bug 8185: plugin for linking records in MARC21
16:10 jenkins_koha * mirko: Bug 8185: Change some more strings from Italian to English
16:10 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 6448 - carp on invalid barcode
16:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Pushed to Master , Plugin for linking records in MARC21
16:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6448 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , EAN-13 barcode support
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16:15 tcohen jcamins, sorry to bother you again with this, i'm not moving to DOM right now
16:15 tcohen but, the absence of those new entries in koha-conf.xml, could break things?
16:15 tcohen I mean <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>
16:16 jcamins tcohen: nope. It defaults to grs-1.
16:16 tcohen ok, thanks
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16:23 * drojf wonders how one accidentally deletes all usernames and passwords of all staff users
16:23 rambutan too much power in the wrong hands
16:24 drojf hm and the university vpn does not allow me to send an email to the koha list. sorry claudio
16:27 cait drojf: there is probably nothing that can be done... to recover
16:27 drojf cait: db user
16:27 cait yeah, to get in
16:28 drojf and set new passwordss
16:28 cait but the data is probably lost .... well.. you could recover from a backup
16:28 drojf i think the users are still there, only the passwords and usernames are lost
16:28 drojf Hi Claudio,
16:28 drojf that sounds like quite some misunderstanding. To clarify, the accounts do still exist but they do not have usernames and passwords anymore?
16:28 drojf In that case you could login with the Koha database user from koha-conf.xml that you used at the time of installation to modify the accounts.
16:28 drojf -- Mirko
16:28 drojf i cant send it. mveron just volunteered to do so ;)
16:29 * mveron just sent the message for Claudio...
16:30 drojf one problem i see: if the person that deleted the logins and passwords is going to be the one using the db user now, they are going to have a bad time ;)
16:40 drojf kf: bug 8215 is what i had in mind when talking about "klassensatz". or is that something else?
16:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add Course Reserves
16:41 drojf hm you are cait now :D
16:41 cait it's something else :)
16:41 cait that's more what we would call semesterapparat
16:41 cait I think
16:42 * jcamins likes the word "klassensatz."
16:42 cait there are programs that offer features for klassensatz - maybe we should ask google
16:42 jcamins What does it mean?
16:42 cait i found some descriptions last time
16:42 cait basically it's enough books for a class (pupils)
16:43 cait school libraries are asking for features for those... but right now I am not exactly sure what they want to do with it
16:43 drojf hm me neither then
16:43 drojf semesterapparat is nice to have too though :)
16:43 cait ok, supermarket - brb :)
16:44 drojf why do you call me supermarket? :P
16:46 jcamins drojf: you mean you haven't volunteered to take care of food provision for #koha?!?
16:48 drojf jcamins: with me switching from "no wheat" to "no gluten" for a while to see how that goes, i guess i would not be a very interesting supermarket for #koha
16:48 jcamins drojf: it will certainly make pizza making more difficult.
16:48 jcamins But not impossible!
16:49 drojf true. i will know all about that soon i'm afraid
16:49 drojf it will certainly make it expensive :(
16:49 jcamins magnuse: in fact, do I recall you mentioning that you had switched to gluten-free baking for a while?
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16:51 drojf i fail to see why a class set (klassensatz) would require special handling. just use one item for the 20 or 30 copies? maybe i miss something about the concept
16:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #846 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 17 days ago)
17:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8185' <[…]636ae5176e2c62296> / Bug 6679 Avoid critic failure caused by ambiguous code <[…]1a2081d89454bebc8> / Bug 2060 follow-up DBRev & updatedatabase <[…]a.git;a=commitdif
17:08 * drojf heads home
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17:09 Oak good night cait
17:12 cait back
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17:25 wajasu cait: 8415 - do you just need signoff on the followup? do you want me to investigate how we may create an order without being force to create items?
17:29 cait wajasu: ah, I found the code for that :) but I have to create a patch an test
17:29 cait I would still appreciate if you would take a look
17:30 cait I hope to get to it tonight - but dinner first :)
17:33 wajasu i'll wait for your patch and look at it if/when your patch shows up.
17:34 wajasu i'm going to get into testing overdue_notice related patches ( 8687 6030 ) sincei have email setup.
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17:42 fredericd tcohen: what is the status of your work on the indexer daemon, and its init script?
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17:59 tcohen fredericd
17:59 wahanui fredericd is translation manager for 3.8
17:59 tcohen i have two functional patches
17:59 tcohen one for a usual .tar.gz setup
17:59 tcohen and one for a .deb install
18:01 tcohen bug 8519 and bug 8773 respectively
18:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup
18:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
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18:03 tcohen i didn't work on the indexer daemon itself as I understood that yours was chosen over a rewrite of on bug 5166
18:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several functions a lib
18:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #846: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/846/
18:03 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8117: Divide budget periods into two tabs
18:03 jenkins_koha * jonathan.druart: Bug 8117: Followup: remove h3 title (duplicate infos)
18:03 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8117 follow-up remove perl warning
18:03 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: A follow-up will be added though, because we understood why I had some javascript error and jonathan didn't. It's because I've plack + debug
18:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Divide budget periods into two tabs
18:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7475: Update configuration
18:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7475: Teach matching rules to handle authorities
18:03 tcohen so, my patches are only convenient init and helper scripts
18:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 2060: Update command line MARC import scripts
18:03 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 2060 follow-up: add support for UNIMARCAUTH
18:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7475 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Option to overlay authorities
18:03 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 2060 follow-up DBRev & updatedatabase
18:03 jenkins_koha * colin.campbell: Bug 6679 Avoid critic failure caused by ambiguous code
18:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
18:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Signed Off , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests
18:04 fredericd I don't understand the requirement of a deb package.
18:05 tcohen on bug 8519 there's no need for a .deb package
18:05 tcohen but bug 8773 needs a .deb package so the complete stack is installable via a repo
18:06 tcohen is that what you where asking?
18:07 fredericd But for 8519, Mason comment (the last one) seems to ask for a package
18:07 tcohen yes, I don't agree
18:08 fredericd ok
18:08 tcohen but as there is a tacit agreement on having all dependecies packaged
18:08 pastebot "wajasu" at pasted "Koha::Contrib::Tamil deps as a carton tree command reports" (85 lines) at
18:08 fredericd and a deb package isn't that easy since the script itself uses Moose
18:08 tcohen i mean, that every new dependency should be available...
18:08 fredericd which is a huge dependency
18:09 fredericd A consensus on introducing Moose as standard dependency for Koha would help...
18:09 tcohen right
18:11 tcohen i know nothing about how to have that consensus
18:11 wajasu plus the gpl3 discussion
18:11 tcohen gpl3 would be if we where to put that scripts inside koha tree
18:12 tcohen instead of external .deb packages
18:12 wajasu right.  you are pursuing an external to koha addon
18:13 wajasu though we agree it should be a behavior in koha.
18:14 magnuse jcamins_away: nope, not gluten free but low carb (not any longer, though...)
18:14 tcohen wajasu, i've already walked that path, without any luck
18:15 tcohen i just tried to get koha-index-daemon easy to use for the average user
18:16 wajasu what if we make a non-moose implementation using alot of existing deps.
18:16 tcohen as i see it there's no real interest on getting this feature into koha right now
18:17 tcohen maybe once SolR arrives...
18:17 tcohen take a look at bug 5166 if you have some minutes
18:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several functions a lib
18:18 wajasu i can see your frustation.  thrashing with solutions to the problem.
18:19 oleonard Hmm... OpenDNS says is a phishing site...
18:20 wajasu since they are reworking search/indexing and undoing coupled code, they probably aren't encouraging new solutions.
18:22 wajasu i suggested to jcamins to add a compositeSearch plugin to his search plugin API.  and then one would pick other search plugins to stack or run in parallel or federated)
18:23 wajasu so if one wanted to have a direct to db search for the biblio or item one just added, could run if the zebra/solr search did not give results.
18:23 wajasu but was seen as too much maintenence.
18:24 tcohen we currently "officially" rely on to do the incremental indexing
18:24 tcohen so I thought we could use the exact same code, to properly have a daemon
18:25 tcohen (also using new sysprefs so there's no mess with switches and such)
18:25 tcohen it was the same code has
18:25 tcohen as fredericd's daemon emerged as an alternative, i decided that it was enough rebasing for that patches
18:26 tcohen and we even have official instrucions for setting 'background indexing'
18:26 tcohen as we where revisiting the docs (with mtompsett) i said to myself
18:26 tcohen 'what the hell, lets do some init scripts to make peoples life easier'
18:27 tcohen its a pathological behaviour I have
18:27 tcohen just that
18:29 mtj tcohen, feel free to change the blocker status on 8519 - i just make a suggestion, thats all
18:29 tcohen i think it doesn't make any difference
18:30 tcohen it is not a problem for me
18:35 jcamins_away wajasu: the problem is no one cares to pay for something like that.
18:36 wajasu i want it so when i add a bib or item or authority(now), that i can pull it up without waiting.  one day.
18:37 mtj the trick for 8519 is the split the patch into 2
18:37 mtj 1 patch to remove, and another patch to add the new indexer
18:38 bag mtj?
18:38 wahanui DeM KraZy NutZ!!
18:38 bag heh
18:38 bag love it
18:38 cait mtj: I think there was a problem with the indexer and the license?
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18:38 cait I am not sure what it was exactly, but was discussed in the channel yesterday
18:39 mtj aaah, gotcha its gpl3, yeah...
18:39 bag oh yeah mtj BTW it's national talk like a pirate day  (well here)
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18:39 cait mtj: I think rangi said it could live on a separate repo
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18:39 cait because you can use them together but not distribute together with Koha?
18:40 mtj *nod*
18:40 cait ... and try and sort things out for 3.12
18:41 mtj everyday is talk like a pirate day for bigB
18:43 cait ook
18:44 jcamins_away wajasu: right, but if implementing that was going to cost tens of thousands of dollars, would it be a high enough priority for you to actually do it?
18:46 jcamins_away (though it's all completely hypothetical at this point, as the rest of the search code has to be rewritten)
18:49 wajasu true.
18:51 jcamins_away Plus, reimplementing search in MySQL really has nothing to recommend it.
18:52 jcamins_away Much better to continue with integrating the background indexer.
18:54 oleonard Comparing a Bootstrap header menu with the current one:
18:54 jcamins_away First one is Bootstrap?
18:55 oleonard Yes
18:55 * jcamins_away could tell because it looked nicer.
18:55 wajasu i will only be a resource periodically, but now that i know your process in koha, i can jump in and add value where i can.
18:55 * cait waits for it to load :)
18:55 wajasu i am lovin the look of the staff client these days :)
18:55 cait oleonard: nice!
18:56 magnuse yeah, lookin good!
18:57 wajasu i wonder if we could get red or light red background color box around the field that are required.  i can't see those red asterisks that well these days. oh and turn it to background blue once data is entered.
18:58 oleonard Where do you mean wajasu?
18:58 wajasu adding a biblio.
18:59 wajasu i import.  then click the tabs and want to be able to see what needs to be filled in.
19:00 magnuse o/
19:00 wajasu also if we don't default to an itemtype, maybe we could have a button to the right i can click to make it my primary itemtype( so i don't have to use a drop down.
19:01 jcamins_away wajasu: the entire bib editor desperately needs an overhaul.
19:01 wajasu forget what i just said.  let the overhaul deal with it.
19:02 * wajasu back to overdue_notice bug fixes for html and such.
19:03 jcamins_away wajasu: I was kind of hoping you were volunteering to do the overhaul...
19:03 jcamins_away :P
19:03 wajasu :)
19:04 wajasu only if folks can agree on our OO strategy
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19:06 jcamins_away wajasu: not Moose.
19:06 wajasu i want to rewrite the letter/template stuff to use TT.  because i saw that I can redefine the [%  and %]  to  << and >>.  it would be nice to
19:06 jcamins_away That would be *awesome*.
19:10 wajasu then if we write a TT provider to grab them from the DB, we can let users write templates stored inthe DB for notices and custom pages/views. and nigrations would be easier if users didn't customized things in the filesystem.
19:10 * wajasu back to overdue_notice testing.
19:13 wajasu i hope bug 8687 gets its minor patch soon so I can test it while I have me email hat on.
19:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8687 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Failed QA , Improvements in
19:13 druthb botsnack cookie
19:14 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie
19:14 wahanui :)
19:14 druthb there.
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19:24 rangi Morning
19:25 drojf good morning rangi
19:26 cait good morning rangi
19:26 wajasu after searching the catalog, i see details.  it would be nice to have a checkout button that navigated me tothe checkout page with the barcode already filled in the box.
19:27 bag rangi - it's talk like a pirate day!!!
19:27 wajasu maybe a link in the holding details barcode area (right under the barcode) "Checkout" or such
19:27 rangi That was yesterday here
19:27 cait wajasu: the problem is, for which patron?
19:27 bag it be today here…
19:28 bag garsh - to the plank with that land lover rangi
19:28 cait lol
19:44 mtj aargh, i be yearning to kill thar swabbie tweetbot, arghhh...
19:46 bag mtj++
19:46 bag Yarr
19:47 mtj oleonard++ very nice!
19:55 oleonard I wonder if there is a T:T option to dump whitespace when outputting HTML
19:55 jcamins_away oleonard: yes.
19:55 jcamins_away [%- %]
19:55 jcamins_away Or [% -%] depending which side you want to dump whitespace on.
19:55 oleonard I mean globally. All whitespace between tags in a page
19:56 jcamins_away Ah.
19:56 jcamins_away I'm not sure.
19:56 mtj oleonard, like a TT compressor?
19:57 jcamins_away oleonard:[…]_CHOMP_POST_CHOMP
19:58 mtj oooh, thats nice
20:03 oleonard Kind of what I was imagining:[…]itespace-collapse
20:04 jcamins_away oleonard: how does that differ from setting PRE_CHOMP and POST_CHOMP to 1?
20:05 oleonard I don't know I didn't try it. Where do you set it?
20:05 rangi C4::Template
20:07 rangi oleonard: in the new sub
20:07 oleonard Found it, thanks
20:07 rangi bonus points
20:08 rangi make it a config option
20:08 oleonard In what sense? A preference?
20:08 rangi config file option
20:09 rangi so that when doing dev you can turn it on and off without having to hack perl
20:09 oleonard Anyway it's apparently not without hazards. Big JS error right off the bat.
20:09 rangi exactly
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20:09 oleonard I'll have to do some tests to see if and how it improves performance.
20:09 rangi <pre_chomp>1</pre_chomp>
20:09 rangi etc
20:09 rangi in the koha-conf.xml
20:10 rangi then you could have it on per site too, on shared infrastructure, if you desired
20:10 rangi see how its done with COMPILE_EXT
20:10 rangi like that
20:12 mtj oleonard, yeah - thats exactly what i was imagining too, re: w/s compressor
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20:13 rangi oleonard: you can use + to disable chomping
20:13 rangi might have to do that for the js bits that need it
20:13 mtj heya kathryn
20:14 kathryn hi there mtj :)
20:14 * oleonard scolds his brain for giving him another project
20:17 kathryn oh and morning all
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20:30 martian523 hi, i'm trying to enter an original marc
20:31 martian523 when it comes to field 100 and 650...etc.  these fields seems to be locked
20:31 martian523 is there a way to unlock them so i can enter the terms manually?
20:32 rangi faq?
20:32 wahanui faq is, like, found at
20:32 oleonard Bye #koha
20:39 martian523 tried, but still locked
20:40 rangi you switched it to allow?
20:40 martian523 yes
20:40 rangi no idea then, that works here
20:40 jcamins_away Are you sure you actually tried typing in the field?
20:41 jcamins_away The lock sign does not mean "typing is not allowed." It means "under authority control."
20:41 martian523 ahaha, stupid me, sorry
20:41 jcamins_away A lot of people get tripped up.
20:42 martian523 thanks
20:42 santy hi! I was following the ubuntu install guide and when I issued this command "sudo koha-create --create-db catalogocentral" I got an error 1470 saying String 'koha_catalogocentral' is too long for user name (should be no longer than 16)... so I exed the same command with "cc" as the user name.  The problem is, whenever I try to restart koha-common it starts zebra  for both catalogocentral and cc, what should I do?
20:43 jcamins_away santy: remove catalogocentral.
20:43 jcamins_away koha-remove catalogocentral
20:43 jcamins_away You'll get errors. Ignore them.
20:43 santy I did, to no avail
20:43 jcamins_away Hm.
20:44 santy it throws the same user name is too long - error
20:44 jcamins_away Remove the directory is what I'd do, I think. rm -Ri /etc/koha/sites/catalogocentral
20:44 santy ok Ill try
20:44 jcamins_away Also, you should follow the Debian guide.
20:44 jcamins_away packages?
20:44 wahanui packages is at
20:44 jcamins_away ^^ follow those instructions
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20:46 santy OK I will
20:53 martian523 is there a way to get a list of lost items?
20:54 cait martian523: there are lots of ways
20:54 cait i suggest you make yourself familiar with the built in reports in the reports module
20:55 rangi !jenkins build Koha_master now
20:55 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now
20:55 rangi i think we might get to 0 fails with this build
20:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #847 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 17 days ago)
20:55 rangi we will know in an hour
20:55 rangi then just this
20:55 rangi
20:55 rangi which has been failing since APRIL!
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20:57 dcook Afternoon/morning #koha
20:58 rangi hi dcook
20:58 cait hi dcook
20:59 dcook hey rangi
20:59 dcook hey cait
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21:01 dcook Does anyone have time to check if items are actually being created when AcqCreateItem is set to "receiving an order"?
21:01 dcook I swear that I've tried it in the past, but I'm not getting anything in 3.8+
21:02 cait dcook: that doesn't sound good
21:02 cait my 3.8 is not ready right now i think
21:03 cait did you configure an ACQ framework? do the item forms show up?
21:03 cait did you use a barcode that already exsited in the database?
21:03 dcook yeah, the framework is set up and the form shows up
21:03 cait (there is a bug with that, it will fail silently)
21:03 dcook Hmm
21:03 dcook I'm noticing a different javascript error when I click on the barcode field
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21:04 dcook Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'field_value' of undefined
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21:05 dcook The barcode was definitely unique :/
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21:06 cait dcook: is this javascript or from the logs?
21:07 dcook javascript
21:07 wahanui somebody said javascript was required for interactions with clicks
21:08 dcook But now that I look at it, that's for master...
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21:08 dcook My 3.8 doesn't get the error. I'll try a different barcode than the system generated one
21:09 dcook Actually, I should've articulated myself better from the start
21:09 dcook It's not just a lack of item creation. The order isn't being received :/.
21:10 dcook ...
21:10 dcook And I'm an idiot
21:11 dcook I was forgetting to hit "Add"
21:11 rangi heh
21:11 dcook I thought "Add" was to pop up a second form for a second item
21:11 rangi could probably go a better error message then?
21:11 rangi or better wording
21:12 dcook Mmm, maybe an error message
21:12 dcook Saying that no items have been received or added to be received
21:12 rangi yeah
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21:14 dcook I'll post an enh bug report in a minute. Now on to testing the actual thing I wanted to test, lol
21:14 rangi :)
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21:21 rangi jcamins_away: bug 7475
21:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7475 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Option to overlay authorities
21:22 rangi that should be pushed to master now right?
21:22 rangi[…]ha.git;a=shortlog
21:22 rangi since it and bug 2060 have been?
21:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client
21:23 rangi ok, just went through all the patches pushed last night (nz time) none of them needed in 3.8.x
21:24 cait dcook: i know exactly how you feel...
21:28 wajasu note: chris c requested a patch for bug 8378 for 3.8.x that i added 2 days ago.
21:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
21:28 rangi that chris c guy is a dick
21:30 cait yeah, and he never shows up on irc
21:35 mveron Good night #koha
21:35 santy ok, I started over and followed debians guide on ubuntu precise and arrived to about the same state... now, debians howto does not include the sax parser check procedures, I just checked and it says that it Looks bad... should I follow ubuntuses guide sax instructions anyhow?
21:37 dcook night mveron
21:38 rangi[…]12286&action=diff
21:38 rangi this changes GetPreparedLetter
21:38 rangi which is used by Reserves, Suggestions, Circ notices, borrower updates
21:38 rangi and more
21:39 rangi i dont have time to test this in the 2 days before 3.8.5 is released
21:39 rangi im holding it for 3.8.6
21:39 rangi it appears the only testing so far has been on overdues
21:40 santy to save you time, I edited ParserDetails.ini files now it Looks good.
21:45 santy following both guides (ubuntuses and debian's) I get to the same state... when I open the web page at port 80 there is the apache it works page.  But no koha interface could it be I didn't set up koha-sites.conf properly?
21:49 cait santy: what kind of installaton did you do?
21:49 cait are you using the koha-common packages?
21:49 cait whch installation manual are you following?
21:49 santy yes koha-common squeezes
21:50 santy 3.8 on debian... and saxes part of ubuntuses guide
21:50 cait so did you use the koha-create command?
21:50 cait to create an instance?
21:51 santy instance cc is set up, sax looks good, apache it works, but no koha webmin nor opac
21:51 cait hm
21:51 rangi sounds like a dns issue
21:52 rangi and or a hosts one
21:52 santy ping works
21:52 rangi what is the fqdn of your koha site
21:52 santy well its an ubuntu installation inside a vm... bridged network adapter
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21:53 santy what should I write into the domain linke of koha-sites.conf for a localhost environ?
21:53 rangi no
21:53 rangi dont touch that file
21:53 santy it actually did not exist
21:53 rangi look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
21:53 rangi good
21:53 rangi it shouldnt
21:54 rangi there should be a file cc in there
21:54 rangi edit that one
21:54 santy so should I delete it again?
21:54 rangi what? are you making files?
21:54 santy well, the guide says "To configure your server for use with DNS names: After install, edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf with details about your site. You may need to create this file."
21:55 rangi what guide
21:55 santy[…]base_Availability and[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
21:56 rangi oh, you didnt do that before you ran koha-create????
21:56 santy let me check
21:56 rangi did you just skip down
21:57 rangi nothing you change in there now will affect the site you created
21:57 rangi only new ones
21:57 rangi so look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
21:57 rangi and edit the file cc in there
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21:59 santy here is the sequence: sudo nano /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf -> sudo a2enmod rewrite -> sudo apt-get install mysql-server ->  sudo koha-create --create-db cc
22:01 rangi cool in that case
22:01 rangi the file you want to edit is in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
22:01 wahanui Hmm.  No matches for that, rangi.
22:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #847: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/847/
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22:04 santy the sites-enabled/cc file looks as if it had been configured using the koha-sites.conf file I edited...
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22:05 santy I think ths the ServerName attribute... I'll just put localhost... I'm just making tests on a LAN environment
22:16 santy ok, I got the admin interface working, had to edit ports.conf and add NameVirtualHost *:8082 and Listen 8082
22:16 santy but I'm getting still the apache works page instead of the opac
22:17 cait you will have to disable the default website maybe
22:17 cait not sure how the packages normally do that?
22:17 santy ... oh I think I have to run the webmin installer first right?
22:17 cait you have to run it first but it should show you a maintenance site for koha
22:18 santy hmm ok...
22:21 santy would you recommend me to install the optional things of the Other Data section in the installer for a multicatalog koha installation?
22:24 santy sorry there are many diverse options, Ill just select the ones that sound ok for us
22:28 santy ok, good hint... just removed the 000-default file from sites-enabled... restarted apache and now kohas beautiful opac interface shows up as intended!
22:30 cait :)
22:30 cait instead of removing the file - you could have used the apache command
22:30 cait a2dissite
22:31 santy humm thanks, will have that in mind
22:31 santy i'll put that in the spanish guide i'm writing
22:33 santy it just took me 1 and a half our to install ubuntu precise server and koha
22:40 dcook Morning/afternoon/evening, #koha!
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23:37 martian523 i was trying to run circulation statistics and 0 results found
23:37 martian523 but we did checkout books
23:38 martian523 custom reports show there are books being checked out, but not on the circulation statistics
23:46 martian523 as a matter of fact, all reports on statistics wizards have "0" results
23:57 tcohen a2dissite 000-default
23:57 tcohen async answer

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