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| 01:01 |
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| 01:02 |
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Waylon |
hiya all |
| 01:03 |
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Waylon |
okay, using the old zebra config of mandumah gives 1011 error, bad user or password. the master zebra config works fine. ive checked the passwd file for both, and they are exactly the same. |
| 01:05 |
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| 01:06 |
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Waylon |
anyone have any idea whats going on? |
| 01:22 |
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| 01:45 |
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mtj |
Waylon, most likely a typo |
| 01:46 |
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mtj |
in your confg files |
| 01:47 |
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mtj |
last nite you had your old zebra configs working, just fine? |
| 01:47 |
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Waylon |
nope |
| 01:47 |
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Waylon |
had the master zebra config files working |
| 01:48 |
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Waylon |
switched back to old zebra config files.. reindexed... error 1011 |
| 01:49 |
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mtj |
heres what i would do then.... |
| 01:49 |
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mtj |
make a git branch |
| 01:50 |
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mtj |
reset your branch to relevant v3.0.x tag |
| 01:50 |
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mtj |
copy your zebra mods to it, then save the commit |
| 01:51 |
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mtj |
switch to your master branch, attempt to cherry-pick your modded commit |
| 01:51 |
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mtj |
that way, you now have a commit that contains your mod, at least.... |
| 01:52 |
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mtj |
(something you dont have currently) |
| 01:52 |
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mtj |
ie: you currently have no idea what zebra changes you've made ( i assume) |
| 01:54 |
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mtj |
and you cant intergrate your changes…. if you dont know what they are in the 1st place |
| 01:58 |
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mtj |
and if you 'switch' your configs using git, rather than using cp... |
| 01:58 |
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mtj |
… you also see to see the diff of whats changed between them |
| 01:59 |
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mtj |
thats a pretty useful bit of info, there... |
| 02:00 |
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wajasu |
error 1011 bad username/password |
| 02:00 |
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mtj |
aaah, the many real-world uses of git... |
| 02:01 |
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mtj |
… saves my stupid ass every day :p |
| 02:02 |
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mtj |
bad user/password caused by a bad file path? pointing to a bad zebra db?, etc... |
| 02:07 |
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| 02:07 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 02:08 |
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mtompset |
Attempting a fresh netinstall of Debian. |
| 02:08 |
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wajasu |
hi |
| 02:08 |
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mtompset |
I couldn't get my last one to do something as simple as "sudo apt-get update" without an error. |
| 02:08 |
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wajasu |
docmaster testing his instructions? |
| 02:09 |
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mtompset |
Yes, yes I am. These instructions are going to be da bomb. |
| 02:10 |
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wajasu |
jcamins told me i should instal/runl zebrasrv as root. but i told him the INSTALL infers root. sudo used before the commands. but i think if we can run it as koha, we should document it. |
| 02:11 |
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mtompset |
Okay, wajasu... Do you use Debian? |
| 02:12 |
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wajasu |
I run archlinux. i run debian in a VM to develop. |
| 02:12 |
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mtompset |
Because last install, I had to go through a hassle to get sudo to work, because I didn't set a root password, so the root account is disabled by default. |
| 02:13 |
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mtompset |
Should I just cave and set a root password? |
| 02:13 |
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wajasu |
in that auto install script, i set a root user/password (koha/koha) |
| 02:14 |
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wajasu |
the one i pasted the other day. |
| 02:14 |
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mtompset |
Right. Okay... not disabled it is. Let's try that way. |
| 02:15 |
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wajasu |
if you have libvirt running under debian, you could probably run my script and watch it all go by. |
| 02:15 |
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mtompset |
I'm running Windows 7 and virtualbox. |
| 02:15 |
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mtompset |
Yes, I know. A ridiculed platform. |
| 02:16 |
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wajasu |
nevermind. |
| 02:19 |
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mtompset |
Yes, the day after I set up my debian... the sudo apt-get update broke, because something decided to not exist. |
| 02:20 |
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wajasu |
if you refer to my script, which, you can see which apt-get and repos I set. i don't know if the preferred whay to install is to use koha-common now. |
| 02:20 |
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mtompset |
And as I have no idea what to fix, I'm just doing a fresh install today in hopes that it works now. |
| 02:20 |
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wajasu |
do you have to grant sudo to koha? |
| 02:21 |
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mtompset |
No. |
| 02:21 |
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mtompset |
not that I know of. |
| 02:22 |
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mtompset |
Though, I do recall having to grant cron or at access. Can't recall which. |
| 02:22 |
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mtompset |
But that was a post-install problem, not an install problem. :) |
| 02:22 |
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wajasu |
let me look at my VM script. |
| 02:27 |
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wajasu |
in my preseed.cfg there is a place for account setup that mentions: "Skip creation of a root account (normal user account will be able to |
| 02:27 |
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wajasu |
# use sudo)." though i do set the root password to koha. |
| 02:29 |
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wajasu |
i have: koha ALL=(ALL) ALL in my /etc/sudoers |
| 02:32 |
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mtj |
wajasu, thats a bad bad thing…. |
| 02:33 |
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wajasu |
i put that in my preseed.cfg because i had issues as well i guess. I had top chmod +rw the file, edit it, and chmod 0440 afterward. i believe the file must be secured with the correct permissions before sudoers will work. |
| 02:33 |
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wajasu |
i know. |
| 02:33 |
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wajasu |
its a dev VM. |
| 02:34 |
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wajasu |
but maybe you can specificy what koha may run as root. |
| 02:35 |
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rangi |
why would the koha user need to run anything as root? |
| 02:35 |
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wajasu |
why do we have sudo in INSTALL? |
| 02:35 |
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rangi |
you dont install with the koha user |
| 02:36 |
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rangi |
the koha user is who should own the files after install (or some user that does most definitely not have root privileges) |
| 02:36 |
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rangi |
thats the entire point |
| 02:37 |
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wajasu |
i usually do make install as root. |
| 02:37 |
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rangi |
and? |
| 02:37 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... and is that patch only for "$" or for "$ CAD" ? |
| 02:37 |
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rangi |
thats immaterial |
| 02:37 |
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mtompset |
I have to agree that koha ALL=(ALL) ALL is bad. |
| 02:38 |
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mtompset |
The point is to limit access for the koha account, not create another hackable point. |
| 02:38 |
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rangi |
anyway, i have work to do, ill leave you to your madness |
| 02:39 |
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wajasu |
so the the commands in INSTALL that have sudo before them infer what? koha has sudo abilites for those commands, OR one should be root . Maybe we should say "As root:" |
| 02:39 |
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mtompset |
When a person makes a system, they don't usually create the koha account first. They create their own first. |
| 02:40 |
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mtompset |
The koha account creation is AFTER. |
| 02:41 |
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mtompset |
And, from what I can tell, it is only necessary for a "standard" install, which is typically a tarball install. |
| 02:41 |
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wajasu |
are these instructions for koha-common at all. If so, I think koha-common creates the koha account in a pre/post install script. |
| 02:41 |
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wajasu |
3 years ago i used git. pulled things as koha. |
| 02:41 |
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mtompset |
Which instructions? |
| 02:41 |
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mtompset |
Because perhaps that's a point I need to clarify. |
| 02:41 |
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wajasu |
the ones you are editing/writing. I am only looking at INSTALL right now. |
| 02:42 |
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mtompset |
Link or filename, please. |
| 02:42 |
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wajasu |
kohaclone/INSTALL |
| 02:42 |
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mtompset |
That's not the file I am editing. |
| 02:42 |
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wajasu |
oh |
| 02:43 |
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mtompset |
I am currently editing http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
| 02:44 |
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mtompset |
I have put out INSTALL.ubuntu.12.04 |
| 02:44 |
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mtompset |
but that is tarball install focused. |
| 02:44 |
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wajasu |
koha-common isn't even something that I consider in production yet. its not mentioned in the git INSTALLs. |
| 02:45 |
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mtompset |
No, because there are three kinds of installs: |
| 02:45 |
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mtompset |
packages (koha-common) |
| 02:45 |
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mtompset |
git (dev) |
| 02:45 |
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mtompset |
and tarball (standard) |
| 02:45 |
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mtompset |
Both git and tarball need to be built. |
| 02:46 |
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mtompset |
When building git, you normally answer dev. |
| 02:46 |
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mtompset |
This means it goes into your home directory. |
| 02:46 |
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mtompset |
There's no need for a koha user. |
| 02:46 |
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mtompset |
It all runs as you. |
| 02:46 |
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mtompset |
It's a development system. |
| 02:46 |
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wajasu |
packages is new to me. this third way needs to be mentioned in INSTALL as an option. If its production ready. |
| 02:47 |
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wajasu |
right. |
| 02:47 |
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mtompset |
When building tarball (the old way of doing install prior to Koha 3.4)... |
| 02:47 |
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mtompset |
you answer standard. |
| 02:47 |
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mtompset |
You need the koha account. |
| 02:47 |
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wajasu |
the standard install is what i use. thats all i would know about from the git. |
| 02:47 |
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mtompset |
Because that is what everything runs as after the installation and everything is set up. |
| 02:48 |
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mtompset |
I think a standard install from git is possible, but it seems bizarre to mix development with what would normally be in production. |
| 02:49 |
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wajasu |
there is no wiki in my setup world. why? we don't refer to it in the gt INSTALLS. if something changed in 3.4 i wouldn't know. i'm someone updateing from 3.0 -> 3.10 (i hope). |
| 02:50 |
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wajasu |
so i go to git. pull code. read INSTALL. and have no clue about wiki or koha-common. i just think that is there is a new way, ie packages, we need to mention it in the INSTALL. |
| 02:50 |
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mtompset |
wajasu: That's why I was asking my questions on the koha-devel list. |
| 02:51 |
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mtompset |
Sadly, no one has replied with answers yet. |
| 02:52 |
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mtompset |
You'll notice that my very first question was about the recommended upgrade path from pre-3.4 to current. |
| 02:53 |
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mtompset |
Well, archlinux is not a debian-based OS, so you can probably continue to get away with tarball installs. |
| 02:53 |
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wajasu |
just as a techie, with open source, etc I would assume a tech, 1) grabs code from git. 2) reads README, and INSTALL, and INSTALL wiith distribution suffix. If nothing mentions packages, he won't go there, and it might take months to discover their existence. |
| 02:54 |
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mtompset |
Actually, I would assume: |
| 02:54 |
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mtompset |
Go to wiki |
| 02:54 |
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mtompset |
Look for OS |
| 02:54 |
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mtompset |
Look for Install |
| 02:54 |
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rangi |
no one does either of those |
| 02:54 |
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rangi |
they go to download.koha-community.org or koha-community.org |
| 02:55 |
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wajasu |
maybe for new gen. for old gen guys like me, its been what i wrote since the 1980s. |
| 02:55 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 02:55 |
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rangi |
git hasnt existed |
| 02:55 |
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| 02:55 |
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wajasu |
git, sv, cvs, zmodem, bbs, whatever |
| 02:55 |
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rangi |
and why you would install from git not a released version .... |
| 02:56 |
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rangi |
how old are you wajasu? |
| 02:56 |
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wajasu |
because its opensource :) |
| 02:56 |
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rangi |
thats ridiculous |
| 02:56 |
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wajasu |
45 |
| 02:56 |
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mtompset |
Okay... but if they go to download.koha-community.org they are going to get a tarball. |
| 02:56 |
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rangi |
yeah you dont have many years on me :) so you cant pull the old gen card on me |
| 02:56 |
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mtompset |
For a debian-based OS, that's an initial mis-step. |
| 02:57 |
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rangi |
yep, which is why the release notes tell people to use the packages, and when they are in debian proper, ppl will install from there rather than going to either |
| 02:58 |
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wajasu |
are the release notes in the git kohaclone directory? |
| 02:58 |
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rangi |
yes |
| 02:58 |
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wajasu |
well then we are cool then :) |
| 02:58 |
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rangi |
ppl who are running from git are the .00001% anyway |
| 02:59 |
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wajasu |
its the root of everything. (though not its distributed :) |
| 02:59 |
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rangi |
i mean running a non released version in production ... |
| 02:59 |
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wajasu |
i know folks do that. |
| 02:59 |
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rangi |
i know they do |
| 02:59 |
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mtompset |
That percentage will increase as khall's VM images become more popular. :) |
| 02:59 |
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rangi |
doesnt mean we should encourage that |
| 02:59 |
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rangi |
yes that's why its a bad idea |
| 02:59 |
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rangi |
the and VM should run from packages |
| 03:00 |
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wajasu |
lets write what you said in the install "It is suggested to..." because what i did 3 years ago was: |
| 03:02 |
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wajasu |
pull source. see install. spend weeks pulling deps. almost bailm and say, this is junk. but persisted. ran zebrasrv under root, though i wanted to run it as koha user. started migrating old lib db to koha "test environment" |
| 03:02 |
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wajasu |
then folks said, its a go. and there was know time to install over and over with all those cpan deps. |
| 03:03 |
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wajasu |
plus using VMs was newer then. |
| 03:03 |
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schnydszch |
if i delete the data in import_records and import_items table, could there be a problem? like it would delete bibliographic records and item records? or any other problems? |
| 03:03 |
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mtompset |
Okay, good the koha-community.org pages link to the old packages install info under Lucid. |
| 03:04 |
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wajasu |
because the install did not say "debian" is ..., i assume any linux/unix would suffice, becuase its perl., so archlinux. |
| 03:04 |
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wajasu |
but then i got burned after it ran for a year. |
| 03:05 |
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wajasu |
archlinux update (pacman (rpm/apt-get)) installed perl 14, now its per 5.16.1 |
| 03:05 |
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wajasu |
bam. koha broke. |
| 03:05 |
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wajasu |
had to rollback crippled. at 3.0.145 |
| 03:05 |
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rangi |
or you could have just cpanned the modules into 14 |
| 03:06 |
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wajasu |
each year, waiting for a version working as well as 3.0.145 to migrate to. |
| 03:06 |
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rangi |
i have an old 2.2.9 running under perl 5.16 |
| 03:07 |
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mtompset |
Actually, I was wondering if a "Requirements" link to http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ could be added to the http://download.koha-community.org/ page. |
| 03:07 |
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rangi |
koha itself wont have broken just modules it depends on will no longer by compiled for the right version of perl, and/or installed in a findable path |
| 03:07 |
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wajasu |
the real problem i found with running perl, groovy, or scripting stuff, is if the OS breaks the perl libs (archlinux was new with perl) and hardly had perl stuff. |
| 03:07 |
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mtj |
wajasu, if you choose an advanced/expert install on uncommon distros, expect unique problems |
| 03:08 |
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wajasu |
i did. |
| 03:08 |
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rangi |
thats why using cpan, if you can use packaged versions of modules, is discouraged .. so on .deb based or even rpm based ones (later centos anyway) |
| 03:08 |
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rangi |
upgrading perl, would upgrade those modules too |
| 03:08 |
|
rangi |
if you have used cpan, you need to upgrade them yourself |
| 03:09 |
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rangi |
same as if you had installed them from their tarballs, or because they are opensource, cloned each one and installed from there |
| 03:09 |
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mtj |
wajasu, i asked people what distro i should use, people recommended debian - ive had a painless install experience ever since... |
| 03:09 |
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rangi |
there are people running various ranges, even BSD |
| 03:09 |
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wajasu |
that was the problem. arch only had like 3 of the deps. i used a script for the other 50-80+. later when the dist added packages, they collided. |
| 03:10 |
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wajasu |
anyway. arch changes too often to be a server. it better for desktop devel. |
| 03:10 |
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mtj |
wajasu, if you asked/followed peoples advice , you would have had a painless install expereince too |
| 03:10 |
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mtompset |
If a "Requirements" link to http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ was added to the http://download.koha-community.org/ page this would provide a preventive step under debian-based OSes. :) |
| 03:10 |
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mtompset |
(preventitive of tarball installs) |
| 03:11 |
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wajasu |
oh. you have to remember, that LL stuff was going on, and it confused everything. |
| 03:11 |
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mtompset |
LL? |
| 03:12 |
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wajasu |
rangi knows. |
| 03:12 |
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wajasu |
who, what is koha |
| 03:13 |
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wajasu |
lime. |
| 03:13 |
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mtj |
wajasu, what does LL have to do with running a prod koha from git, on archlinux ? |
| 03:13 |
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rangi |
they might have told him to, sounds like something they would say |
| 03:14 |
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mtompset |
LL... Okay, clued in. |
| 03:14 |
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wajasu |
never spoke with them, but the net had links everywhere then, and I didn't know for sure which was koha. |
| 03:14 |
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wajasu |
i would go with either. |
| 03:14 |
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wajasu |
i just wanted the source to prove the code worked. |
| 03:15 |
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wajasu |
the other thing i did after std install was the make test. i never really got throught them at that point. |
| 03:17 |
|
wajasu |
i had to figure out how to create marc records, write a dump from legacy, import staged, etc. that took all my time. i let the user play with the product and never investigated it until it was in production. |
| 03:17 |
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wajasu |
i hoped to get them moved to a vendor. |
| 03:17 |
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wajasu |
which i will after 3.10, i hope. |
| 03:18 |
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mtj |
wajasu, well, congrats on being the 1st person to ever run a production Koha on archlinux |
| 03:19 |
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wajasu |
for 3 years. |
| 03:19 |
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mtj |
….from git, too |
| 03:20 |
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mtompset |
I can see an INSTALL.archlinux "Why are you even thinking of this?! Are you crazy?" |
| 03:20 |
|
mtj |
me... i just stuck with what the developers recommended, debian |
| 03:20 |
|
Waylon |
im thinking, might be best to examine all the zebra marc setup of old zebra, and make sure the setup is the same in the new zebra config. |
| 03:20 |
|
Waylon |
instead of trying to use this old config. |
| 03:20 |
|
* mtompset |
nods. |
| 03:21 |
|
mtj |
… and now i run from the deb packages… my experience has been smooth and painless |
| 03:22 |
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wajasu |
i found the debian packages by accident. i likes the debian packages as well. my dev VM uses them. gathering the cpan modules is the beast. |
| 03:22 |
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mtj |
so in every situation… first ask the advice of people wiser than you |
| 03:23 |
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wajasu |
there aren't too many out there these days. |
| 03:24 |
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wajasu |
without the IRC, all one had was INSTALL. |
| 03:24 |
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wajasu |
the wiki is golden now |
| 03:25 |
|
wajasu |
plus i never could bring myself to run make upgrade. |
| 03:25 |
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mtompset |
rangi: Do you know the answers to my 5 questions on koha-devel? |
| 03:26 |
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rangi |
maybe |
| 03:26 |
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rangi |
its not a tl;dr mail is it? |
| 03:26 |
|
* rangi |
has limited hours before a big conference nexxt week |
| 03:27 |
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mtompset |
tl;dr? |
| 03:27 |
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rangi |
too long; didnt read |
| 03:27 |
|
mtompset |
It's one screen on my computer (19" monitor) |
| 03:27 |
|
mtompset |
Though I think the "great wall of install" may have discouraged you from reading it. ;) |
| 03:30 |
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rangi |
there quick answer |
| 03:30 |
|
mtj |
… and the words 'hidden' throughtout it |
| 03:32 |
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wajasu |
i noticed bug 4460 never made it (i posted that in 2010). and now bug 8679 is in there. |
| 03:32 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4460 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost |
| 03:32 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8679 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove usage of Amazon API |
| 03:33 |
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wajasu |
not that a labrary would want revenue. if its available. |
| 03:33 |
|
rangi |
never made it because they kept changing their API, and more importantly their T&C |
| 03:33 |
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wajasu |
i don't mind. |
| 03:34 |
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wajasu |
its just because the accessid was in the preferences, and it cause us to go get one. we didn't need it. |
| 03:45 |
|
* wajasu |
reading koha-devel. no need to send patches to koha-patches list? |
| 03:46 |
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rangi |
no need, its still nice practice for new ones, don't bother sending signed off ones |
| 03:46 |
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wajasu |
now i can spend more time on test plan and writing tests. |
| 03:46 |
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rangi |
also, if i go mad one day and rm -rf the server that runs bugzilla |
| 03:46 |
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rangi |
you'd be glad they were in the mailing list archives |
| 03:46 |
|
rangi |
in newer git |
| 03:46 |
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rangi |
you dont even need to do a format-patch |
| 03:47 |
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wajasu |
you mean i can push? |
| 03:47 |
|
rangi |
git send-email does it for you |
| 03:47 |
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wajasu |
gotcha |
| 03:49 |
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wajasu |
whats the deal with bug 7844 |
| 03:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , plack scripts for developers |
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wajasu |
i looked at it. i wish it would use whatever my KOHA_CONF environment is out of the box/git. |
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mtj |
send a follow-up patch? |
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wajasu |
i can install via cpanm, but does won't need to get plack and other modules as "optional" dependencies? |
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wajasu |
ok followup. suggestion patch. |
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Waylon |
plack not ready for production? |
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rangi |
not even close |
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rangi |
thats why its scripts for developers |
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Waylon |
same answer for nginx? |
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rangi |
nginx is fine |
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rangi |
but you should not what you are doing |
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rangi |
s/not/know/ |
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Waylon |
right. |
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mtompset |
KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB environment variables depend on your build. |
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wajasu |
yes. |
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Waylon |
hmm... comp crashed. |
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Waylon |
hmmmmmmm... old zebra setup has alot of missing attributes from bib1.att.... curious. yet in koha 3.0 it worked fine.. |
| 04:31 |
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Waylon |
does the more attributes in bib1.att, equal more time to index the db? |
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Waylon |
.......... -facepalms- bad password due to bad path. |
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Waylon |
thankyou diff -r. |
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rangi |
14:00 < mtj> bad user/password caused by a bad file path? pointing to a bad zebra db?, etc... |
| 04:38 |
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Waylon |
yes. |
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Waylon |
had to diff it to find it.] |
| 04:40 |
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Waylon |
hmm.. odd.. subject(s) line, the subjects arn't split into a list, but instead, is one link, with lotsa and queries. |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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Waylon |
good morning drojf |
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drojf |
hi Waylon |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf and sorry for the massive delay in acknowledgement: Waylon. :) |
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drojf |
hi mtompset |
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Waylon |
anyone know why the subject list in Normal view, becomes one long link? |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 14.0°C (6:42 AM CEST on September 17, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
Woo hoo! Kudos go out to my friends in the Computer Science Club at the University of Waterloo in Canada. I can sudo apt-get update! |
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mtompset |
Okay... fresh debian install... let's see what happens. |
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Waylon |
to alter what information gets displayed in search results, and where/how it looks, i edit xslt? |
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Waylon |
xslt? |
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wahanui |
somebody said xslt was a maze of twisty turny passages, all alike. or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSLT and the pages at http://cs.au.dk/~amoeller/XML/transformation/ may be useful for learning the basics. |
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drojf |
Waylon: if you have xslt turned on (i think four sysprefs, results and detail for each staff client and opac) then yes |
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Waylon |
right, so all results get delivered, in full, to XSLT? |
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Waylon |
or does one have to actually declare what fields make it to XSLT |
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Waylon |
? |
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drojf |
but you can also specify visibility options for subfields in your MARC frameworks |
| 05:18 |
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drojf |
not all fields are in xslt by default, you can add what you like |
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Waylon |
okay, how do i give fields to XSLT? |
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drojf |
what i would do is open the xslt file you would like to edit and have a look there how it is done for fields that are present |
| 05:20 |
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Waylon |
ah? so koha does infact expose all fields to the XSLT system, and the file picks the ones it needs? |
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drojf |
you can check whether a field is available, check indicators, check subfields and then do stuff with that |
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drojf |
like <xsl:if test="marc:datafield[@tag=777]"> |
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drojf |
to see if you have that field |
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drojf |
and then <xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield[@tag=777]"> |
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drojf |
to do stuff for all your 777-fields |
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is off to the shower |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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drojf |
good morning cait :) |
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cait |
good morning drojf :) |
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cait |
are you as tired as me today? |
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cait |
hm as tired as I am? |
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drojf |
no, because i spend a lot of time relaxing yesterday while you had to ride the train for 10 hours |
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drojf |
spent even |
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cait |
make it 11 |
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drojf |
did you have a good trip home? |
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drojf |
uh |
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cait |
suicide/accident |
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cait |
somewhere in the black forrest |
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drojf |
omg |
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drojf |
:( |
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cait |
it was a long day |
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drojf |
so much for coming here more often |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
next time maybe take the plane... |
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drojf |
wouldn't it be better by plane actually? |
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drojf |
heh |
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cait |
:) |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha! |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
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cait |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya drojf and cait |
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cait |
ups |
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cait |
wrong window |
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magnuse |
nice pics though |
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cait |
hmpf |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
bonjour, alex_a |
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drojf |
hi alex_a |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
niihau, reiveune |
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mtompset |
Greetings, all who came in and I didn't get around to acknowledging. :) |
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* mtompset |
proceeds into the madness of doing a tarball install on Debian. ;) |
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* mtompset |
notes that this will help with a git install too, so it isn't as evil as it sounds. |
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julian_m |
hello |
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wahanui |
hello, julian_m |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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mtompset |
Yes, there are files to update. :) |
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* mtompset |
cackles with gleeful madness. |
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* mtompset |
is following Ubuntu tarball instructions on Debian, "How much more wrong can I get?" |
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drojf |
mtompset: "debian" sounded right, the rest not so much :P |
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* mtompset |
grins. |
| 07:29 |
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mtompset |
Well, the interesting this is I get to use my check_deps.sh script (which I haven't in a while). |
| 07:29 |
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mtompset |
Turns out there are several dependencies missing in the debian.packages file under install_misc |
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mtompset |
This makes for more commands to do a simple git install (which is something people who wish to develop should be doing) |
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mtompset |
Hmmm? |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #177 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf. |
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kf |
hi mtompset |
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schnydszch |
i'm having problem running a perl script specifically rebuild_zebra, i'm getting this error messsage: DBI connect('dbname=__DB_NAME__;host=__DB_HOST__;port=__DB_PORT__','__DB_USER__',...) failed: Unknown MySQL server host '__DB_HOST__' (1) at /home/koha/kohaclone//C4/Context.pm line 758 Unknown MySQL server host '__DB_HOST__' (1) at /home/koha/kohaclone//C4/C |
| 08:04 |
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schnydszch |
how do i fix the problem? |
| 08:07 |
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mtompset |
What are you using? |
| 08:08 |
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schnydszch |
koha 3.8.1 on debian |
| 08:09 |
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schnydszch |
it's a virtual machine actually, i've installed webmin |
| 08:09 |
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schnydszch |
I tried running the rebuild zebra script in webmin and in command line but I get that error message, what could be the problem? |
| 08:10 |
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schnydszch |
I didn't do anything with my database |
| 08:13 |
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mtompset |
Where did you get the virtual machine? |
| 08:15 |
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schnydszch |
kyle hall's virtual machine |
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mtompset |
I thought he had a newer one which is 3.8.4 |
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schnydszch |
oh the previous one |
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wahanui |
the previous one is probably now closed as a duplicate - stick to 6481 |
| 08:16 |
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schnydszch |
that was working ok last week |
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drojf |
wahanui: forget the previous one |
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wahanui |
drojf: I forgot previous one |
| 08:17 |
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schnydszch |
is there a new one? |
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drojf |
schnydszch: have you checked that mysql-server is running? |
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schnydszch |
it's running |
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mtompset |
drojf: I think he is running the script from the wrong directory, or something. |
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schnydszch |
at least in webmin |
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mtompset |
those values scream of blib. |
| 08:18 |
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schnydszch |
the mysql server |
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mtompset |
(prior to installation) |
| 08:19 |
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mtompset |
is there a /usr/share/koha directory? |
| 08:19 |
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schnydszch |
no, since kyle hall's different |
| 08:19 |
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mtompset |
you checked? |
| 08:19 |
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schnydszch |
i think it's in /home/koha/kohaclone something like that, i'm no linux expert yet.. |
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drojf |
i'm sorry i don't know anything about that virtual machine |
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schnydszch |
i've checked |
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drojf |
oh it's a git installation? |
| 08:20 |
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mtompset |
None of us do, and unfortunately khall is idle. |
| 08:20 |
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schnydszch |
no /usr/share/koha directory |
| 08:22 |
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schnydszch |
hours ago, my koha virtual machine hanged when i was editing biblio records, so i stopped the virtual machine, when I run rebuild_zebra -b -a -z I got the errots |
| 08:22 |
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schnydszch |
errors |
| 08:24 |
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magnuse |
how do you run rebuild_zebra? |
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magnuse |
which dir are you in when you run it? |
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schnydszch |
in webmin: $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null |
| 08:25 |
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schnydszch |
in command line /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra |
| 08:25 |
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schnydszch |
Environment variable KOHA_CONF = /home/koha/kohaclone/etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 08:25 |
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magnuse |
hm, that should be ok i think |
| 08:25 |
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schnydszch |
Environment variable PERL5LIB = /home/koha/kohaclone |
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schnydszch |
those were predefined I think but now I got the problem |
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magnuse |
no wait, KOHA_CONF might be wrong |
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drojf |
from the error it seems like it is |
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schnydszch |
where should or could it be? |
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magnuse |
is there a dir called /home/koha/koha-dev ? |
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schnydszch |
yes |
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schnydszch |
should i point it there? |
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magnuse |
yup |
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magnuse |
/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 08:28 |
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schnydszch |
but there is no koha-conf.xml there.. will try anyway |
| 08:28 |
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magnuse |
well, if there is no /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml it will not work |
| 08:29 |
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eythian |
'locate koha-conf.xml'? |
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schnydszch |
ah okay there is.. /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml /home/koha/kohaclone/blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml /home/koha/kohaclone/etc/koha-conf.xml |
| 08:30 |
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schnydszch |
in three directories |
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magnuse |
/home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml is the one to use, then |
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schnydszch |
i think it is the rebuild zebra is already running i'm just waiting for it to finish, how could that happen when /home/koha/kohaclone/etc/koha-conf.xml was working? |
| 08:36 |
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magnuse |
no idea ;-) |
| 08:39 |
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mtompset |
Oh... |
| 08:39 |
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mtompset |
WRONG config file. |
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drojf |
i don't think i like ready-built virtual machines much more than live-cds |
| 08:40 |
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mtompset |
~/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml? |
| 08:42 |
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mtompset |
drojf, I think this virtual machine is a DEV machine. |
| 08:43 |
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mtompset |
Does that file I said exist, schnydszch? |
| 08:44 |
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mtompset |
Oh well... I was probably on the right track. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #177: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/177/ |
| 08:45 |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: Bug 7409 : Missing dependency on DBD::Mock |
| 08:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7409 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Missing dependencies for Debian package |
| 08:45 |
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drojf |
mtompset: it appears to be a git installation. i'm not really sure as to why you would want to give that out ready-made, which to me kind of implies you can use it without knowledge of the system |
| 08:47 |
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mtompset |
The advantage of a git system is updating it becomes very easy. |
| 08:48 |
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mtompset |
And less bandwidth consuming than downloading a whole new image. |
| 08:50 |
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mtompset |
Actually, that bug above, reminds me of a bug I want to post. |
| 08:50 |
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mtompset |
datetime-timezone is only 1.20, but the minimum is 1.26 |
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rangi |
not as easy as the packages, and you can mess up a git installation a lot easier and make it harder to recover than packages |
| 08:51 |
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mtompset |
I don't know how they got 1.26 |
| 08:52 |
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mtompset |
Well, yes, that is true too, Rangi. |
| 08:53 |
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mtompset |
Any ideas on how to get DateTime::Timezone 1.26 considering the default repos, including debian.koha-community.org only have 1.20? |
| 08:54 |
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mtompset |
And I decided to go look at debian repos for items without candidate numbers, and there is a 1.46, but it seems strange to have to go to the repos like this for DEBIAN. |
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* drojf |
goes out to get some sun while it's out there |
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* mtompset |
grumbles, "Good thing I put this section in here about checking the repos for unmarked versions." |
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* mtompset |
grumbles, "Debian. BAH! Just as bad as Ubuntu for installing non-packages." |
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mtj |
i think Kyle's git VM is to show people how a git koha works |
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schnydszch |
thanks for the help guys.. it is now okay.. |
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mtj |
… so they can learn to configure there very own git koha |
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mtj |
if people do goofy things with it, thats not really Kyle's fault |
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eythian |
mtompset: I wonder if the minimum of 1.26 was actually checked for |
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eythian |
I could build higher versions, but it would be better that the versions were real minimums for everybody. |
| 09:35 |
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mtompset |
It's part of the koha_perl_deps.pl script. |
| 09:35 |
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mtompset |
If I'm doing a git install, I still have to run that. |
| 09:35 |
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eythian |
yes, but is it the real minimum, or is it just what was tested? |
| 09:35 |
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eythian |
If <1.26 wouldn't do the job, fair enough |
| 09:35 |
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eythian |
But if it would work fine, then the minimum should be reduced. |
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kf |
hey eythian |
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eythian |
hiya kf |
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mtompset |
I see what you mean, and it would make my life easier. :) |
| 09:38 |
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eythian |
I've not noticed any issues with the packaged version, but I haven't looked either |
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mtompset |
I went to CPAN... no bug reports for 1.20 ;) |
| 09:39 |
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mtompset |
ACTIVE bugs. |
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eythian |
@wunder den haag |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Green Valley Ranch Golf Club, Denver, Colorado is 8.4°C (3:37 AM MDT on September 17, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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eythian |
... |
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eythian |
@wunder the hague |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in VOORBURG, Netherlands is 18.2°C (11:37 AM CEST on September 17, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
... |
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eythian |
@wunder the hauge |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Teresina Aeroporto, Brazil is 24.0°C (6:00 AM BRT on September 17, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:40 |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.5°C (11:35 AM CEST on September 17, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:40 |
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eythian |
seriously |
| 09:41 |
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eythian |
I suppose voorburg isn't so far from here |
| 09:41 |
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mtj |
hmm, this might be a good patch for koha -> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/[…]ly-using-env.html |
| 09:42 |
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mtj |
#!/usr/bin/env perl ? |
| 09:42 |
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eythian |
mtj: it's in violation of debian policy |
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eythian |
> Perl policy §5.1 states: |
| 09:43 |
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eythian |
> "All packaged perl programs must start with `#!/usr/bin/perl' and may append such flags as are required." |
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mtj |
eythian, impressive quoting :p |
| 09:45 |
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eythian |
It was in my email, there was a discussion about it on debian-perl recently :) |
| 09:45 |
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mtj |
aaah, ok - its all news to me |
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eythian |
mtj: this doesn't mean we couldn't have a debian-specific patch for it if was generally thought to be more agreeable. |
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mtj |
yeah, either/or, i think it goes on the too-hard pile… |
| 09:48 |
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eythian |
@later tell dpavlin http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin[…]rt.cgi?bug=687427 |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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mtompset |
Now I know what happened yesterday.. my son kicked out the cable! |
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drojf |
mtompset: you just figuered out that you have been working without electricity all day? |
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mtompset |
No. Internet cable. |
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mtompset |
My netbook has wireless and wired. |
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mtompset |
My son kicked out the wired connection. |
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mtompset |
That explains why I found the dsl router falled and my cable disconnected yesterday. |
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mtompset |
fallen... Whatever. |
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drojf |
ah, ok. i would have found the electricity option more fascinating ;) |
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kf |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
what'd I do? |
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kf |
funny email |
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eythian |
ah right :) |
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vfernandes |
hi guys... one request: anyone uses XSLT and MARC21? i'm having a problem with subject search because it only searches the subfield $a.... for example if the subject is Medicine -- Periodicals, I want to search all the subfields and not only "Medicine" |
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vfernandes |
http://catalogo.ubi.pt/cgi-bin[…]iblionumber=84469 |
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vfernandes |
anyone has this modification on the XSLT? |
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eythian |
vfernandes: I don't think the XSLT and the search are related |
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vfernandes |
eythian... the problem is that the a href is built on the XSLT |
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eythian |
oh right, so no the search but the search string |
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vfernandes |
yes.. my bad :) |
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eythian |
I see your issue |
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vfernandes |
maybe someone had already done this modification to the XSLT |
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eythian |
vfernandes: one of our clients has this: https://library.plantandfood.c[…]iblionumber=43440 |
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eythian |
which seems to work fine |
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vfernandes |
that's exactly what I want, besides that being a "bad" example because the subject searches redirects to the same record and not gives the impression that being working fine |
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vfernandes |
but the url seems to be well built :D |
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vfernandes |
can you send me the XSLT file? |
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vfernandes |
PS: like the clean look of your OPAC :) |
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eythian |
looking for the file, I'm not sure how it differs from the current one. |
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eythian |
and yeah, it was just an example I grabbed without looking too closely. |
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eythian |
We have a good design team who do our OPACs |
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eythian |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]eads/mykoha-3.6.x <-- vfernandes |
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eythian |
keep in mind that this is still 3.6, so it may not work well with 3.8, but you can probably pull out the bits you want |
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vfernandes |
ok eythian... thank you so much for the help |
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jcamins_away |
vfernandes: there is a syspref you can use to set it to search all subfields. |
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vfernandes |
ok thanks jcamins :) |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
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kf |
good morning jcamins |
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magnuse |
kia ora jcamins |
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drojf |
good morning jcamins |
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kf |
bye äkoha |
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kf |
hm #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, nengard. |
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nengard |
morning! |
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wahanui |
morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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slef |
hi. Is the "don't use the system superlibrarian (kohaadmin as was)" tip on the websites somewhere? Not in the FAQ AFAICS |
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jcamins |
slef: I thought we added it to the FAQ. |
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slef |
http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
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jcamins |
You're right. |
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jcamins |
I don't see it. |
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magnuse |
is there a bug for it? i thought someone was talking about limiting the db user to creating libraries and users? |
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jcamins |
magnuse: someone was, but that hasn't happened yet. |
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* magnuse |
wasn't expecting miracles ;-) |
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magnuse |
Bug 8689 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8689 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , disable login via Koha's $database account |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora oleonard |
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magnuse |
koha gets a mention: http://szabgab.com/perl-based-[…]rce-products.html |
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wajasu |
mtompset: i always edit koha_perl_deps to have DateTime as 1.20 and have been running like that since june. no 1.26 in squeeze. |
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mtompset |
So perhaps it is as eythian though, and the minimum should be reduced. |
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mtompset |
Though, I should grep the code to see what actually uses it. |
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mtompset |
Perhaps there is a way to replace the dependency with something we already have, and thus simplify. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: DateTime is a very core requirement at this point. Removing it is not an option. |
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mtompset |
No, DateTime::Timezone. |
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mtompset |
wajasu didn't type the full name. |
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wajasu |
yes that the one |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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mtompset |
Debian doesn't have 1.26 by default. |
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wajasu |
i just woke up. |
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mtompset |
It only has 1.20 |
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mtompset |
I'll forgive you, wajasu. :) |
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mtompset |
So trying to do a git installation or a tarball install won't work. |
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jcamins |
The solution is to change the minimum version, not introduce subtle new bugs, I think. |
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mtompset |
And the datetime::timezone that doesn't have a candidate number in the repos has too many other dependencies to try to sort out. |
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wajasu |
someone here told me to reduce the version. some months back. its the best option. |
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wajasu |
i tried to suggest makeing this a bug and fixing it in git in a subsequent release. maybe they should in 3.10 |
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jcamins |
File a bug and submit a patch. |
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jcamins |
We know the change you made works, right? |
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wajasu |
yes. i 've been running like that since June |
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mtompset |
Actually, if I don't find it in use at all in the code, it could be removed as a dependency. |
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mtompset |
Then the problem doesn't exist. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: only if you can prove that it's definitely not required. |
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jcamins |
Which is, unfortunately, much harder than it sounds. |
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wajasu |
i'll make a patch today. i grepped, I don't see it in master find . -name "*.*" -exec grep -Hn "DateTime::Timezone" {} \; |
| 12:56 |
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jcamins |
But we may not be `use`ing it directly. |
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wajasu |
I'll run my VM create script and create a fresh environment without it, and see what complains |
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mtompset |
C4::Context uses it. |
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mtj |
curious - when was the 1.26 requirement added? |
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mtompset |
DateUtils.t uses it as well. |
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jcamins |
bug 5549 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it bug 5549 is libsysguy's white whale |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Hourly Loans |
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wajasu |
how do you guys do a historical git search where somethings like DateTime::TimeZone or "1.26" in C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm would have shown up? |
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wajasu |
is something like that available in gitweb? |
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mtompset |
Yes, jcamins you grok git good. How search? |
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mtj |
$ git blame -L 204 ./C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm |
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mtj |
c82d114f (Colin Campbell |
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mtj |
so, colin added those deps... |
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mtj |
ask him why he decided on 1.26 ? |
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wajasu |
i guess, with those hashes on the left, one could find/associate what commit and bug#? |
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mtj |
poss. as a dep of DateTime-0.58 ? |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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jcamins |
wajasu: yes, that's how I got bug 5549 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Hourly Loans |
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jcamins |
Though I could've told you which bug without checking, actually. ;) |
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wajasu |
now i remember. eythian is robin :) the pbuilder expert? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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eythian |
since when did I become an expert? |
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wajasu |
who else builds packages? |
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eythian |
jcamins and magnuse have both built packages. |
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eythian |
I'm sure others have too |
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wajasu |
good to know. |
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jcamins |
eythian: since liw left the Debian packaging to you. |
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eythian |
it's designed not to be too much of an ivory tower process :) |
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oleonard |
I'm sticking with expert. |
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* liw |
points at eythian and says "expert" |
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eythian |
aww man |
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mtompset |
But if DateTime 0.58 requires 1.26, then why does 0.61 only require 1.20? |
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liw |
eythian, you have no escape, you're an expert now :) |
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wajasu |
i started to build packages in my debian VM, but i think i needed too much disk space in it, or something. then someone shoed me the kc repo |
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eythian |
mtompset: probably because they revised the dependencies |
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eythian |
wajasu: it can take a fair bit of disk sometimes. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: there's no point in speculating. Ask Colin. |
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mtompset |
Sorry, but the name is just a name to me. Ask how? |
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jcamins |
Post a note on the bug? |
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jcamins |
Or send an e-mail? |
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jcamins |
I don't think he's on IRC much anymore. |
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wajasu |
the other thing. when i was building archlinux, i did a grep search/replace script to use #!/usr/bin/env perl and things ran fine. I think i recal finding some rogue perl being called and required a manulal edit though. |
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jcamins |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
what'd I do now? |
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jcamins |
wajasu: /usr/bin/perl is required by Debian. |
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eythian |
also there are non-specific security issues. |
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jcamins |
eythian: Recommended against writing a logger from scratch. |
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eythian |
ah right |
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eythian |
I used to live in the java world |
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eythian |
it was a very common thing there |
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jcamins |
eythian: where everyone writes their own loggers? |
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eythian |
yeah |
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wajasu |
slf4j |
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jcamins |
wtf? |
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eythian |
before they discover lig4j or commons-logging or whatever |
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* jcamins |
thinks the Java world must be a very strange place. |
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eythian |
It's usually the defining line between someone with experience and someone without, whether they go and do that. |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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* eythian |
wrote one, and then later changed it to all be log4j or whatever it is |
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wajasu |
strong typed dev, with a team vs dynamic typing annd lots of bugs later and work pushed to QA and tests needed even more. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: I like strongly-typed languages, but it wouldn't even occur to me to write my own logger from scratch. |
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eythian |
oh, actually, apparently I use Java's inbuilt logging system |
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eythian |
which makes a bit of sense I guess |
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wajasu |
most everyone uses slf4j.org API, and its pluggable. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: yeah, that makes sense to me as the *first* approach would try, not the last. :) |
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eythian |
I think the SDK one is a bit simpler, but if you need fancier stuff later, you can just drop in sfl4j and it'll become the manager for the internal stuff. or something like that. |
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* eythian |
pokes through some java code I haven't looked at since 2009 |
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khall |
just finished a new solution for bug 8559, this one should satisfy oleonard. It forces a librarian to either cancel the waiting hold, or revert it to a non-waiting hold when issuing a currently waiting item to a different patron. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8559 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , conflicting item statuses |
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oleonard |
Thanks khall I will test it today |
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* oleonard |
is finishing his follow-up for Bug 7067 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , allow patron self registration via the opac |
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khall |
excellent! It should be pretty easy to test. |
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khall |
also good news! Let me know when you post your patch, and I'll give it a test. |
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* khall |
wonder what the record is for most comments on a bug. 7067 has 93 at the moment. |
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oleonard |
khall: 7067 doesn't hold the record, I checked :) |
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khall |
heh, do you know which bug is the current record holder? |
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oleonard |
Bug 5327 holds the record |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, bart.tj, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
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khall |
wow, 241. That's impressive. |
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jcamins |
Sure is. |
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jcamins |
Maybe time to open a new bug for that. |
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eythian |
star ratings only made it up to 91 :( |
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mtompset |
Well, email sent off to Colin regarding DateTime::TimeZone. |
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eythian |
I think that 5327 is cheating however, as it's a rolling bug |
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wajasu |
i'm glad your are persuing this mtompset. :) |
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khall |
it would be better to use it as a parent bug with many blocks, but I think that's me wanting to normalize it like a database. |
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jcamins |
khall: no, I think I'm in agreement with you. |
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jcamins |
It gets to be a bit much. |
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jcamins |
(241 comments much!) |
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eythian |
that's often how we structure things internally |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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mtompset |
I thought bugs were supposed to be short, tiny, testable pieces? |
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eythian |
this is a bug about testing |
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wajasu |
do you guys use that debian unstable repo for things like latter cpan modules? |
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eythian |
no |
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eythian |
I build them myself if I must |
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jcamins |
No, I roll my own packages if I need something on in Squeeze. |
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mib_yqrzg1 |
Hello, where can I find which languages the Koha software is available in? |
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eythian |
translations? |
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wahanui |
translations are always committed on the stable branches |
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eythian |
hmm |
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jcamins |
translate? |
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eythian |
no wahanui, translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
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jcamins |
no, wahanui, translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, jcamins. |
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jcamins |
Oops. |
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eythian |
heh |
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jcamins |
mib_yqrzg1: you can look at that page to see the status of the various translations. |
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eythian |
mib_yqrzg1: that URL is the answer |
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khall |
is there any reason we shouldn't just use cpan minus and put all Koha it's own perl land separate from the OS's? We could then put the deps in the git repo and simplify installation. |
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jcamins |
Is there an echo in here? |
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eythian |
Echo? |
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jcamins |
lol |
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khall |
Echo? |
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wajasu |
ethian. have you thought about using carton and cpanfile to build a local::lib of koha modules? i can use -L to "contain" everything without using the OS distribution. |
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eythian |
wahanui: echo is <reply>echo# |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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eythian |
wahanui: echo =~ s/#/?/ |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian |
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eythian |
echo? |
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wahanui |
echo? |
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jcamins |
khall: I don't know enough about cpan minus to comment. |
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mib_yqrzg1 |
Thank you. So, if I am understanding it correctly, the Polish version of Koha (to take one example) is in progress but not yet ready to be used? |
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eythian |
wajasu: nope. I just make .deb files and put them in the repo |
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khall |
it's a great tool. I've been using it for catalyst framework based applications. |
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eythian |
mib_yqrzg1: you'd have to have a look, it might well be the OPAC is well translated but the staff client isn't so much |
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wajasu |
i see carton and cpanfile in wheezy. |
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mib_yqrzg1 |
Thank you for your help! |
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jcamins |
mib_yqrzg1: the OPAC is mostly translated for 3.8.x. |
| 13:39 |
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jcamins |
Staff client, not so much. |
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Waylon |
Is there an echo in here? |
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Waylon |
hmmm. |
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mib_yqrzg1 |
I see. Thanks for explaining it to me. |
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Waylon |
wahanui, Is there an echo in here? =~ s/#/echo in here/ |
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Waylon |
Is there an echo in here? |
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Waylon |
okay.. i fail. |
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wajasu |
Waylon: i am thinking of doing my migration form 3.0 to master this week, now that I see your struggles. I'll keep notes. |
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jcamins |
wahanui: \is there an echo in here is <reply> echo in here# |
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wahanui |
OK, jcamins. |
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Waylon |
cool. but what mods you got to deal with? |
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jcamins |
is there an echo in here? |
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wahanui |
echo in here# |
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jcamins |
wahanui: echo =~ s/#/?/ |
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wahanui |
That doesn't contain '#', jcamins |
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jcamins |
wahanui: \is there an echo in here =~ s/#/?/ |
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wahanui |
I didn't have anything matching '\is there an echo in here', jcamins |
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jcamins |
Sorry, Waylon, I tried. |
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* jcamins |
packs up and heads into the city. |
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Waylon |
wahanui, forget is there an echo in here |
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wahanui |
Waylon: I forgot is there an echo in here |
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Waylon |
wahanui: \is there an echo in here is <reply> echo in her |
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wahanui |
OK, Waylon. |
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Waylon |
ahf.. |
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Waylon |
wahanui, forget is there an echo in here |
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wahanui |
Waylon: I forgot is there an echo in here |
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Waylon |
wahanui: \is there an echo in here? is <reply> echo in here? |
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wahanui |
waylon: bugger all, i dunno |
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Waylon |
hahaha |
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Waylon |
wahanui: \is there an echo in here? is <reply> echo in here\? |
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wahanui |
bugger all, i dunno, waylon |
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Waylon |
wahanui: \is there an echo in here? is <reply> echo in here |
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wahanui |
OK, Waylon. |
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Waylon |
Is there an echo in here? |
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wahanui |
echo in here |
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wajasu |
this bot reminds me of a program i downloaded off a BBS in 1979 called eliza. it was a psychologist that prompted conversation. |
| 13:45 |
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Waylon |
wajasu, how much modding do you need to port to koha master? |
| 13:45 |
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Waylon |
i have something like 25 mods. |
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Waylon |
wahanui, are you a bot? |
| 13:45 |
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wahanui |
wish i knew, waylon |
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wajasu |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA wow my memory is in wikipedia |
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eythian |
wajasu: you'll also find it in the 'help' menu of emacs |
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Waylon |
ah.. not 25.. 16 or so |
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wajasu |
Waylon: custom XSLT, patron images, some javascript for custom cart/list buttons |
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wajasu |
Waylon: removing biblioitems script. |
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Waylon |
ah... not as bad as mine then, wajasu |
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Waylon |
wahanui, version? |
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wahanui |
waylon: no idea |
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Waylon |
wahanui, help? |
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eythian |
wahanui: info |
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wahanui |
eythian: excuse me? |
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eythian |
wahanui: status |
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wahanui |
Since Wed Aug 29 09:23:54 2012, there have been 896 modifications and 255 questions. I have been awake for 19 days, 4 hours, 21 minutes, 39 seconds this session, and currently reference 21198 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode. |
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eythian |
that's the one |
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wajasu |
no holdings, no circ, no budgets, just bibs, |
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Waylon |
wahanui, karma for liblime? |
| 13:48 |
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wahanui |
i haven't a clue, waylon |
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eythian |
@karma liblime |
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huginn |
eythian: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 13 times for a total karma of -13. |
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eythian |
@karma C |
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huginn |
eythian: Karma for "C" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16. |
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wajasu |
but, there are lots of auths with duplicates and maybe buggy dups I need to research. |
| 13:49 |
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Waylon |
ah.. wahanui isn't tracking karma? |
| 13:49 |
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eythian |
no, huginn does that here |
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Waylon |
@karma php |
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huginn |
Waylon: php has neutral karma. |
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Waylon |
@karma PHP |
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huginn |
Waylon: PHP has neutral karma. |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 02:02 PM, March 17, 2010) |
| 13:49 |
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Waylon |
php-- |
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oleonard |
khall: Follow-up submitted for 7067 |
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oleonard |
php++ |
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oleonard |
:P |
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gmcharlt |
C++ # gives us speedy and useful things like Yaz and Zebra |
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Waylon |
php is a language that melts brains. |
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Waylon |
okay, im done for night. |
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Waylon |
gnight all. |
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Waylon |
bug 7067 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , allow patron self registration via the opac |
| 13:53 |
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Waylon |
ah |
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* Waylon |
idly curious. |
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Waylon |
bug 42 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]how_bug.cgi?id=42 normal, P2, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, installer.pl could prompt user to send testing results in |
| 13:54 |
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Waylon |
hmm.. how... uninteresting. |
| 13:54 |
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eythian |
bug -1 |
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eythian |
aww |
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eythian |
bug 0 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]show_bug.cgi?id=0 was not found. |
| 13:54 |
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Waylon |
bug 1 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition |
| 13:54 |
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Waylon |
bug 666 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=666 major, P2, ---, paul.poulain, RESOLVED FIXED, Unnecessary use of non-core perl module |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins_away |
bug 5773 # happy new year |
| 13:54 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Allow the librarians to specify the search indexes for advanced search |
| 13:54 |
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jcamins_away |
Nice! |
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* jcamins_away |
really leaves, now. |
| 13:55 |
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Waylon |
bug 777 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=777 minor, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, permissions for librarians |
| 13:55 |
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Waylon |
hmm? indexes for advanced search? |
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mtompset |
OOO.... nasty karma counts. |
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mtompset |
@karma mtompset\ |
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huginn |
mtompset: mtompset\ has neutral karma. |
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mtompset |
@karma mtompset |
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huginn |
mtompset: Karma for "mtompset" has been increased 20 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 19. |
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mtompset |
I thought php was a language written by people with melted brains. ;) |
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mtompset |
Anyways. I'm still recovering from this sore throat and ear ache mess. Better get some regular hours of sleep. |
| 14:05 |
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mtompset |
Good day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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oleonard |
Exactly. People who like things we don't like are stupid. |
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mtompset |
melted brains != stupid... smart overloaded. :) |
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* mtompset |
waves. |
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tcohen |
eythian, i'm amazed of your response to that weird paul |
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eythian |
heh |
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oleonard |
eythian++ |
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wajasu |
i see my bug 8378 got pushed to master. yay? chris said i need to create patch for 3.8. |
| 14:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
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wajasu |
i can do that. |
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eythian |
@later tell druthb does your migration toolkit stuff handle symphony unicorn? |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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* oleonard |
grumbles that no one added a test plan as a result of his plea for test plans |
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oleonard |
Although khall++ for adding one when asked directly |
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* libsysguy |
sympathizes with oleonard |
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libsysguy |
actually jcamins++ for generally always having a test plan |
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oleonard |
Can someone please explain this syntax to me? |
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oleonard |
($it->{'author'} eq '') and $it->{'author'} = ' '; |
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eythian |
oleonard: erm |
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eythian |
that's weird |
| 14:40 |
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eythian |
oh |
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eythian |
no it's not |
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eythian |
if author is '', then make it be ' ' |
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eythian |
same as $boolean && do_something() |
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oleonard |
Okay, thanks |
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libsysguy |
that seems like a weird way to do it |
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libsysguy |
or at least not the most obvious way |
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oleonard |
Commit message for that change: "circulation.pl cleaned up. I think you'll like the difference. Less" |
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eythian |
it's a common shorthand, though I think I prefer using && as it looks a bit more distinctive. |
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eythian |
(the precedence differs though |
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eythian |
) |
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* oleonard |
wonders if there was supposed to be more to that commit message |
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eythian |
heh |
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* oleonard |
can't understand why an $author '' should be converted to $author ' ' |
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eythian |
I was ignoring that as it was strange |
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slef |
Plack Handbook http://bit.ly/PqZnJU |
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* tcohen |
is looking for a good soul with .deb-generating skills to provide packages to test Bug 8773 |
| 14:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 14:49 |
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eythian |
tcohen: there was another bug along those lines too |
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eythian |
bug 8774 |
| 14:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8774 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , make a deb package of Koha::Contrib::Tamil::IndexerDaemon |
| 14:51 |
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tcohen |
yes, i've added the dependecy on that bug |
| 14:51 |
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tcohen |
but I'd like to test it anyway |
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tcohen |
do u know who can help on getting Koha::Contrib::tamil to be packaged?¿ |
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wajasu |
i originally tested that bug. i might take a shot at trying to build a deb package. i can try. |
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tcohen |
wajasu, it's the same use of koha-index-daemon, adjusted to .deb per instance setup |
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wajasu |
i remember now. i am running debian in a VM. and to build a deb pacakge pbuilder needs to bootstrap another debian (or chroot) within i think, and i hadn't allocated enought VM disk space, so i bailed. let me see if i can. |
| 14:56 |
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eythian |
yeah, you should have a fair bit of space |
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eythian |
enough for a minimal debian install |
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* eythian |
has to go, bye all |
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tcohen |
bye eythian |
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wajasu |
i have to do a patch for 3.8 first, so i'll try later today. |
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tcohen |
wajasu: no problem |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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tcohen |
anyone, how can I completely reset my pbuild base system? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: sudo pbuilder create |
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tcohen |
thanks jcamins |
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tcohen |
$ sudo pbuilder --create --distribution precise --architecture amd64 |
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tcohen |
? |
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jcamins |
That should work. |
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jcamins |
Wait, without the -- before create |
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jcamins |
It's just sudo pbuilder create |
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jcamins |
(plus whatever arguments you want to pass it) |
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tcohen |
the result would be an overwrite of base.tgz? |
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jcamins |
So far as I understand, yes. |
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tcohen |
perfect |
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tcohen |
do u know whos responsible of creating perl packages for debian.k-c.org? |
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jcamins |
eythian. |
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wahanui |
i guess eythian is a good influence or located somewhere. |
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oleonard |
Nice to hear eythian is located somewhere. |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The Next General Meeting is 10 October 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
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wajasu |
ahh |
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tcohen |
jcamins, is there a GUI tool for cherry-picking or is it done in command-line? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: command-line. |
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jcamins |
Well, there may be a GUI tool, but I don't use it. |
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tcohen |
i tried gitg |
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* jcamins |
uses git log and a steady hand. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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tcohen |
:) |
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tcohen |
everything a RM needs :-P |
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jcamins |
tcohen: and horse sense. |
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jcamins |
And a cool head and a keen eye. |
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wajasu |
and a horse with no name |
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oleonard |
It takes judgement, brains, and maturity |
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jcamins |
oleonard++ # for getting the reference |
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* oleonard |
learned the song in roundabout way, from a Stan Freberg album on which he does a version |
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jcamins |
Good enough for me. :) |
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tcohen |
i get an error message when applying patch fr Bug 8773 (on friday It didn't cause this trouble) |
| 15:59 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 15:59 |
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tcohen |
fatal: cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8 |
| 15:59 |
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tcohen |
it is strange that the patch says: |
| 15:59 |
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tcohen |
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 |
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tcohen |
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit |
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tcohen |
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" |
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jcamins |
tcohen: if you open up the patch in a text editor, you can remove the second Content-Type line, and it will start working again. |
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tcohen |
do u know if it is a bug in git bz? or my own setup? |
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tcohen |
(maybe gmail...) |
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tcohen |
(nevermind, used git-bz, no gmail) |
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jcamins |
No, git does it. |
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jcamins |
I don't know why. |
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jcamins |
Ooh! Maybe this was one of Cristophe's ancestors! A bookseller in Paris ca. 1789! |
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wajasu |
jcamins: was it that .gitconfig [format] things that everyone did. then i found that in newer git versions thats not needed. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: removing that line fixes the problem, and doesn't garble UTF-8 commits? |
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wajasu |
i took headers = "content-Type: ... line out. so no dups when patches are applied. |
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wajasu |
yes |
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jcamins |
Cool! |
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jcamins |
You should update the wiki to note that isn't required on recent versions of git. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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wajasu |
it seems to have been needed in the past, but if you are in a newer git vesion you get dups. |
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wajasu |
that means i need to get a login. |
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jcamins |
Yes it does. |
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tcohen |
jcamins, do u know how to disable tests for building ,debs? |
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jcamins |
Or you can delegate to someone else who is here who can log in to the wiki at present (not me). |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I do not, no. I've always wanted them to run. |
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tcohen |
wajasu, I can login to wiki |
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tcohen |
jcamins, they fail right now, and need to test that patch |
| 16:08 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: they fail? |
| 16:08 |
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jcamins |
Oh dear. |
| 16:08 |
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tcohen |
# Failed test 'use C4::HoldsQueue;' |
| 16:08 |
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jcamins |
I think you can skip tests using an environment variable. |
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wajasu |
tcohen: just put a note: that on recent git versions (, one doesn't need the format headers = content-type line. |
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tcohen |
ok |
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wajasu |
i'm on version 1.7.12, but if you search the irc logs you will se i had this conversation about this in june or august and i might have mentioned the git version this was fixed. |
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wajasu |
git version |
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jcamins |
tcohen: unfortunately, I can't figure out which environment variable that would be. |
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tcohen |
wajasu, jcamins, ok |
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jcamins |
eythian would know, but he's not here. |
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* mveron |
says hello to cait |
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jcamins |
liw: I don't suppose you know how to make pbuilder skip tests? |
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jcamins |
(when using build-git-snapshot) |
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liw |
jcamins, do you mean how to tell pbuilder to tell the package to not run its build-time tests? |
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jcamins |
liw: right. |
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* cait |
waves :) |
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liw |
jcamins, in that case, http://www.debian.org/doc/debi[…]bianrules-options specifies the env var to set (DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck), but I don't recall how to get pbuilder to set it (maybe: sudo DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck pbuilder ....) |
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cait |
liw++ :) |
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jcamins |
liw++ |
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jcamins |
tcohen: that seems promising. |
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tcohen |
yes jcamins, thanks liw |
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liw |
no worries |
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tcohen |
if it doesnt work I'll empty t/ :-P |
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wajasu |
tcohen: i found the day i had the same discussion with jcamins. http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]g/koha/2012-08-30 no git version mentioned though. |
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jcamins |
huginn: do you warn people you are a bot? |
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huginn |
jcamins: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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tcohen |
i think is a git bug anyway |
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wajasu |
huginn: when will RDA be ready? |
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huginn |
wajasu: downloading the Perl source |
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wajasu |
huginn: do you know eliza? |
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wahanui |
i think eliza is the one you're thinking of |
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huginn |
wajasu: downloading the Perl source |
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tcohen |
liw, jcamins, it worked |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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* chris_n |
just could not resist |
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chris_n |
jumping into the melodrama that is :-) |
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jcamins |
lol |
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* jcamins |
wonders if Christophe is related to Andre Croullebois, bookseller at the end of the eighteenth century. |
| 16:47 |
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wajasu |
tcohen: are you working on the pbuilder for the Koha::Contrib::Tamil::IndexDaemon? should i try now? |
| 16:47 |
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jcamins |
Someone from BibLibre: you should ask him. Inquiring minds want to know. :) |
| 16:57 |
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wajasu |
are there alot of 3.6.x folks deployed. i wonder if i should attach a 3.6.x patch to the bug as well. so they can get their overdues notices running again. |
| 16:58 |
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wajasu |
maybe its not broken in 3.6, so i will forget about that. |
| 16:58 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: overdue notices are working. |
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jcamins |
(in 3.6.x) |
| 16:59 |
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wajasu |
ok |
| 16:59 |
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jcamins |
At least, they seem to be. |
| 16:59 |
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jcamins |
And I am refusing all e-mail-related patches at this time, since they only seem to cause more problems than they solve. :( |
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wajasu |
what does that mean. you only pull from bugzilla? |
| 17:00 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 17:00 |
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jcamins |
I mean I won't accept patches that touch Koha's e-mail generating code. |
| 17:00 |
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mbalmer |
??? |
| 17:01 |
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jcamins |
Could someone respond to bug 8624 saying that A) I tested it with a standard install initially, but a lot has been pushed since then, B) it's only famfamfam because small changes are better than big ones. |
| 17:01 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8624 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , famfamfam should be outside theme directory |
| 17:01 |
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jcamins |
mbalmer: it's working now, and has had problems in 3.8.x and master. Why risk importing those problems to 3.6.x? |
| 17:02 |
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mbalmer |
yes, don't backport bugs, indeed. |
| 17:03 |
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wajasu |
ok. i'll do a standard install. |
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* jcamins |
waves to datadoctor, whispers about Koha's theme functionality. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8765 follow-up replace tabs by spaces <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]21ace0e51597ac308> / Bug 8765 - Add series title to intranet search results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bd37e9eab1317a4bc> / Bug 8713 - Warning message triggered by clicking Keywords to MARC mapping <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #836 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 15 days ago) |
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chris_n |
jcamins: what sort of problems |
| 17:13 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: sending baskets entirely stopped working for a while, and I think a change to overdue notices broke some of the placeholders. |
| 17:21 |
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chris_n |
so sending overdue notices did not break? |
| 17:21 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: I think it did not. |
| 17:22 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: but I use 3.6.x exclusively, and my libraries don't circulate. |
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* chris_n |
has been having some issues with od notices on 3.8.3 |
| 17:22 |
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jcamins |
... or maybe it did break entirely |
| 17:22 |
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chris_n |
but I'm not entirely focused on ils foo right now, so have not had time to shake it out yet |
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chris_n |
broken_stable-- |
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tcohen |
jcamins,wajasu: did u get my email? |
| 17:33 |
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tcohen |
oh, jcamins_away |
| 17:33 |
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wahanui |
i guess jcamins_away is probably not here, but you don't have to take my word for it! |
| 17:36 |
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jcamins_away |
Wow, nice! |
| 17:38 |
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SJeffery |
Does anyone know why Koha changes the order that Z39.50 results are displayed in depending on the results? |
| 17:39 |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: I didn't know that Koha did, but I'll speculate that it depends on which server responds first. |
| 17:40 |
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SJeffery |
Hmm. I suppose that makes sense. |
| 17:40 |
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jcamins |
Unless you're only searching one server, in which case I am utterly perplexed. |
| 17:41 |
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SJeffery |
If I search for an OCLC number and have it search two servers, and both return one results, the results are not in the same order each time. |
| 17:41 |
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libsysguy |
anybody know if the latest version of jquery will be pushed to the stable branches |
| 17:41 |
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libsysguy |
jcamins, rangi, paul_p |
| 17:41 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: no. |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: that is, I know the answer. It will not be. |
| 17:42 |
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* libsysguy |
just saw that email from oleonard |
| 17:42 |
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libsysguy |
is it just because only bug fixes get pushed and not enhancements? |
| 17:42 |
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libsysguy |
^^ honest question |
| 17:42 |
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jcamins |
Mostly. |
| 17:43 |
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jcamins |
And the scope for regressions with a jQuery upgrade from 1.3.2 to 1.7.1 is *massive*. |
| 17:43 |
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* jcamins |
will allow that he is not rangi, so rangi might have a different opinion. |
| 17:43 |
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jcamins |
But he doesn't. |
| 17:44 |
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libsysguy |
we were on 1.3.2 o_0 |
| 17:44 |
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libsysguy |
sweet baby jesus |
| 17:44 |
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jcamins |
Huge scope for regressions. |
| 17:44 |
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libsysguy |
we need a bot to pull in the latest stable releases for our releases that include other cod |
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libsysguy |
code* |
| 17:45 |
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jcamins |
And jQuery is already up to 1.8 something. |
| 17:45 |
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libsysguy |
think of all the features we are missing out on :p |
| 17:45 |
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libsysguy |
all those bouncing effects |
| 17:45 |
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datadoctor |
We just updated our jquery mobile and it broke a lot of our css. |
| 17:46 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: if you use bouncing effects in the OPAC, you are dead to me. :P |
| 17:46 |
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wajasu |
tcohen: saw the email. thx :) |
| 17:46 |
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libsysguy |
but how else am I supposed to engage the patrons by having their results use the quad-bounce-flash effect as they come in through my ajax queries |
| 17:47 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 17:47 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6151 follow-up, fix HTML4 coding guideline <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2fea174a9ca51f8ae> / Bug 6151 - Followup - Change 'itemnumber' to 'barcode' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4f2fcd47cf4a7a51> / Bug 6151 - Followup - Display message for failed returns on circulation.pl when retur... <http://git.koha-c |
| 17:47 |
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wajasu |
jcamins: I am sitting here with 8624 applied as a standard install. with the SIGNED off patch. any place/page i can go to confirm a fam icon? |
| 17:48 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: they're all over. Let me think. |
| 17:48 |
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libsysguy |
so I just went to rebase my working branch |
| 17:48 |
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SJeffery |
Wait a minute, we can have bouncing effects? Can we also use the blink tag? I will submit an enhancement request! |
| 17:48 |
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libsysguy |
guess where the conflicts are |
| 17:48 |
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libsysguy |
jquery |
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libsysguy |
-_- |
| 17:49 |
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jcamins |
Oh. XSLT results page. |
| 17:49 |
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jcamins |
All those little icons. |
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jcamins |
(on the OPAC) |
| 17:49 |
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libsysguy |
SJeffery please do, I really want some flashing banner adds on the intranet side |
| 17:49 |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: with a banner going across the top of the page saying "You win!" |
| 17:49 |
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datadoctor |
now I |
| 17:49 |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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libsysguy |
but the add has to be attached to the cursor, so you're forced to click on it. I'm pretty sure thats only a feature in jquery 1.8 |
| 17:50 |
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libsysguy |
so now we have to upgrade |
| 17:51 |
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datadoctor |
am thinking it was a relative path problem - maybe the css was conistent between jquery mobile versions - what do you see as the problem with the xslt results? |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
datadoctor: those are two different conversations. |
| 17:51 |
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datadoctor |
got it! |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
The XSLT results are where you can find a famfamfam icon. |
| 17:52 |
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jcamins |
jQuery is just a nuisance. |
| 17:52 |
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jcamins |
;) |
| 17:52 |
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jcamins |
But an awesome one, of course. |
| 17:52 |
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libsysguy |
hey now, you're hitting a little close to home there jcamins :p |
| 17:52 |
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datadoctor |
jquery has insinuated itself into everything - is there a website that doesn't use it? |
| 17:53 |
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jcamins |
datadoctor: ... ones with blink tags? ;) |
| 17:53 |
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datadoctor |
just like we became dependent on java, until Oracle ate it! |
| 17:53 |
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libsysguy |
if they don't use jquery they use mootools or scriptilous |
| 17:53 |
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jcamins |
Maybe. |
| 17:53 |
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oleonard |
datadoctor: http://yuilibrary.com/ ? |
| 17:53 |
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libsysguy |
or yui |
| 17:54 |
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datadoctor |
Yes! YUI is the coolest. I vote for YUI! |
| 17:54 |
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oleonard |
datadoctor: And jquery hasn't "insinuated itself" into anything. It has become popular. |
| 17:54 |
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jcamins |
For the record, I really like jQuery. |
| 17:55 |
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libsysguy |
jQuery +1 from me |
| 17:55 |
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jcamins |
But changing the API between versions is really, *really* annoying. |
| 17:56 |
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* libsysguy |
can deal |
| 17:56 |
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datadoctor |
I'm testing oleonard, I use jquery on all my websites. Nonetheless I think the YUI tools are pretty cool. |
| 17:56 |
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datadoctor |
I mean teasing... |
| 17:57 |
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datadoctor |
And I am ++++ for jquery mobile - I think it is very cool! |
| 17:58 |
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libsysguy |
uses jquery-ui mobile for his drupal site |
| 17:58 |
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libsysguy |
its fancy |
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jcamins |
Ooh. A bookplate in a language that might or might not be Greek. |
| 18:04 |
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jcamins |
With the Russian Imperial seal. |
| 18:04 |
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cait |
sounds nice :) |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
Perplexing is what it is! |
| 18:06 |
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cait |
that's what I meant ... ;)I |
| 18:08 |
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jcamins |
It is Greek. |
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SJeffery |
Welcome to my world:) |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: Greek is not unusual. What's unusual is that it's using the Cyrillic alphabet and is around the Imperial seal of Russia. |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
Or something that looks remarkably like the Imperial seal. |
| 18:09 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Hello everyone! I'm looking for a total expert on creating reports in Koha. |
| 18:11 |
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SJeffery |
Well good, you can handle all of our Greek stuff from now on:) |
| 18:12 |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: I didn't say I understood Greek, just that it wasn't unusual. |
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drojf |
YoungPublicLibrarian: i heard the wiki is kind of an expert http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 18:16 |
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jcamins |
Maybe it's the OCS alphabet! |
| 18:16 |
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drojf |
old church slavonic? (or how that is said in english) |
| 18:16 |
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jcamins |
drojf: exactly right. |
| 18:16 |
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jcamins |
I mean, I'm not sure that's what's going on here, but it seems possible. |
| 18:18 |
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cait |
:) |
| 18:18 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 18:18 |
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cait |
sounds like an interesting find |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #836: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/836/ |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 7991: Add itemcallnumber into the serial collection tab |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 4491: fix weird code in search scripts |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* jonathan.druart: Bug 4491: FIX buildQuery if called with an empty limit |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 8705: Software error on help of main page |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* mtompset: Bug 8714 - Poorly ordered and triggers warning in marctagstructure.pl |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7690: hidelostitems not working in Normal Display |
| 18:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7991 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Display in a holding summary tab informations about serial record |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* colin.campbell: Bug 8727 Minor stylistic change to help text |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* mtompset: Bug 8713 - Warning message triggered by clicking Keywords to MARC mapping |
| 18:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4491 trivial, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cleaning some weird code in *search.pl |
| 18:18 |
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jenkins_koha |
* dcook: Bug 8765 - Add series title to intranet search results |
| 18:19 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 8765 follow-up replace tabs by spaces |
| 18:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8705 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Software error on help of main page |
| 18:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8714 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Poorly ordered and triggers warning in marctagstructure.pl |
| 18:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7690 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , hidelostitems not working in Normal Display |
| 18:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8727 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Correct help text in rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh |
| 18:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8713 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Warning message triggered by clicking keyword to marc mapping. |
| 18:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8765 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add series title to intranet search results |
| 18:19 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #837 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 15 days ago) |
| 18:20 |
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drojf |
i thought i saw cait waving, but then this huge, loud jenkins-huginn-train drove by |
| 18:20 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 18:20 |
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cait |
lol |
| 18:20 |
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cait |
how is your head? |
| 18:21 |
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drojf |
better. how are you? |
| 18:21 |
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cait |
also better |
| 18:21 |
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cait |
waiting for a baking pumpkin :) |
| 18:21 |
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drojf |
so they did not poison us :D |
| 18:21 |
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cait |
hm it still might be ;) |
| 18:22 |
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drojf |
jcamins: ocs looks fancy |
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| 18:23 |
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drojf |
hm |
| 18:24 |
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drojf |
i guess my wireless cable fell out |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
do we have nightly master .deb packages? I mean, is anyone able to build .deb packages from master? |
| 18:24 |
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bag |
good morning :) |
| 18:24 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
The only problem with that link, drojf, is that some of the reports there don't work the way they are described to work... |
| 18:24 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: no, I don't think we do. |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
debian/rules failed in several lines |
| 18:25 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: spaces instead of tabs? |
| 18:25 |
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jcamins |
I keep on trying to fix that. |
| 18:26 |
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tcohen |
no, missing files on cp or rm -r |
| 18:26 |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: the report you were looking at was written by khall. He may be able to help you refine it to do what you want, since he has access to your system. |
| 18:26 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: really? What files? |
| 18:26 |
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tcohen |
install -m 0644 koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/skin.css I think |
| 18:27 |
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tcohen |
rm -r \ |
| 18:27 |
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tcohen |
$(TMP)/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui |
| 18:27 |
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jcamins |
Hmm. |
| 18:27 |
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tcohen |
i don't have enough scroll lines |
| 18:27 |
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jcamins |
I guess we need a follow-up for that. |
| 18:28 |
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tcohen |
are there patches for that? |
| 18:28 |
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jcamins |
I didn't realize that debian/rules had a special set of instructions for installing YUI. |
| 18:28 |
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tcohen |
bug #? |
| 18:28 |
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wahanui |
i guess bug # is there |
| 18:28 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 18:28 |
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jcamins |
Never saw that issue before. |
| 18:28 |
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jcamins |
@query yui |
| 18:28 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 18:28 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8290 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace Greybox library with jQueryUI Dialog |
| 18:28 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI |
| 18:28 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5024 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Debian packages don't include YUI plugins |
| 18:28 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI |
| 18:28 |
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jcamins |
@more |
| 18:28 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. |
| 18:28 |
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oleonard |
Bug 5024? |
| 18:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5024 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Debian packages don't include YUI plugins |
| 18:29 |
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jcamins |
No, this would be a follow-up to bug 8623. |
| 18:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories |
| 18:29 |
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jcamins |
Also, bug 5024 should probably be fixed. |
| 18:30 |
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jcamins |
Wow... that's... different. |
| 18:31 |
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jcamins |
(looking at the way we install YUI using packages) |
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* tcohen |
finds disturbing that he can't build deb packages even when using DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck |
| 18:33 |
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koyauni |
hello koha! |
| 18:34 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: well, debian/rules is failing. It's not a test. That's the actual build process. |
| 18:35 |
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koyauni |
We are new user of Koha for our university Library, it has multi lingual records, but the search is giving accurate result in English only, |
| 18:35 |
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jcamins |
If you change the yui lines to refer to the new yui location, that might fix it. |
| 18:35 |
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jcamins |
I can't test that now. |
| 18:35 |
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koyauni |
when you search in Arabic it always shows the same records, any idea how this can be fixed please |
| 18:36 |
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jcamins |
Plus, the Solr dependencies can't be built on Squeeze, so I wouldn't be able to test anyway. |
| 18:36 |
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tcohen |
link to the new yui libs? |
| 18:36 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: you need to activate ICU. I am not sure if there are instructions you could easily follow. |
| 18:36 |
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jcamins |
icu? |
| 18:36 |
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wahanui |
icu is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra |
| 18:36 |
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tcohen |
path? |
| 18:36 |
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wahanui |
i heard path was set in C4/Templates.pm |
| 18:37 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/lib/yui and koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/lib/yui |
| 18:37 |
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koyauni |
where do I find this ICU |
| 18:37 |
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wahanui |
ICU is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra |
| 18:38 |
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koyauni |
I thought Koha is UTF8 enabled and language would not matter |
| 18:38 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: you have to configure it by editing the configuration manually. Unfortunately, it is a bit involved. |
| 18:38 |
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koyauni |
http://library.koyauniversity.org/ |
| 18:39 |
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koyauni |
if I find instruction I might be able to do it |
| 18:39 |
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tcohen |
mmm, koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/lib/yui is not on master yet |
| 18:39 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: really? I didn't actually check whether the patch I was thinking of had been pushed or not. |
| 18:40 |
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jcamins |
Possibly this is not the issue after all, then. |
| 18:40 |
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tcohen |
(fixed debian/rules for opac at least, trying again) |
| 18:45 |
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wajasu |
jcamins: you know that idea i mentioned about the composable search plugin. what really fueled it was, when cataloging, a search for a bib is not immediately available(against zebra). so if we find no results, we could have a secondary search query directly against some of the database fields. |
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jcamins |
wajasu: but that would mean maintaining an additional set of search routines, which is not something we want to do. ;) |
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tcohen |
wajasu, just use my patches you signed, and change the interval to 10''? |
| 18:48 |
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wajasu |
yeah. thats sufficient. |
| 18:49 |
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wajasu |
tcohen: after i look at this famfamfam patch, do you still want me to try the pbuilder for Koha::Contrib::Tamil? |
| 18:49 |
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tcohen |
you mean my patch? or creating .deb packages for Koha::Contrib::Tamil? |
| 18:50 |
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wajasu |
creating the .deb packages |
| 18:50 |
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tcohen |
if you're talking about bug 8773 hold on |
| 18:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 18:50 |
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tcohen |
as building the packages for testing that patch is currently broken |
| 18:52 |
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wajasu |
ok |
| 18:54 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Thank you jcamins! |
| 18:54 |
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koyauni |
there is setting in Home › Administration › System preferences › Searching preferences for ICU, but it says that ICU should be enabled, do you think a installation by koha-common would have the this enabled |
| 18:55 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: it is not enabled by default. As I said, configuring it is rather involved. |
| 18:55 |
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koyauni |
:( is there any instruction around I can follow please |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
Probably, but I don't know of any off the top of my head. |
| 18:57 |
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tcohen |
jcamins, should I send a folowup for bug 8623 to fix that debian/rules file? |
| 18:57 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
And I'm not going to suggest you try instructions that I don't know for sure are good, because you'd end up in a much worse situation. |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: yes please. |
| 18:57 |
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tcohen |
both previous patches are pushed, and should i obsolete them? |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: make sure you include instructions for building packages for master (how you skipped the tests, and any other gotchas you encountered). |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
Yes please. |
| 18:59 |
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oleonard |
Bootstrap's UI widgets offer a compelling alternative to YUI buttons and menus (not to mention jQueryUI's) |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: mtj was doing a proof of concept with bootstrap. |
| 19:00 |
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oleonard |
For the OPAC I think. |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: does that mean I'd lose my sortable? :( |
| 19:01 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Only if we decided to dump jQueryUI in favor of all Bootstrap |
| 19:01 |
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oleonard |
Right now we've got jqueryUI and YUI, we might do jqueryUI + Bootstrap |
| 19:02 |
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oleonard |
At least Bootstrap is being actively developed, unlike YUI, and has working menus, unlike jQueryUI |
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* oleonard |
hates to add yet another different library but we should use what works |
| 19:03 |
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jcamins |
Sounds good to me. |
| 19:03 |
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jcamins |
Especially ditching YUI. |
| 19:04 |
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cait |
oleonard: bootstrap has menus? :) |
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oleonard |
http://twitter.github.com/boot[…]l#buttonDropdowns |
| 19:05 |
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oleonard |
It has lots of stuff. |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins |
After the 3.12 elections are over, we should pick up the discussion about GPL3+ again. |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
yay :) |
| 19:05 |
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cait |
jcamins: sounds good to me |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
Then we could potentially switch from YUI to bootstrap. :) |
| 19:06 |
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oleonard |
Right because right now we couldn't use Bootstrap because of the license? |
| 19:06 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
| 19:06 |
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cait |
oh? |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
But there is nothing in the way of us upgrading to GPLv3+, now that SIPServer has been relicensed. |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
cait: Apache 2.0 and GPL 2 are incompatible. |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
ah |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
one more reason to revisit the discussion soon |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
what is the procedure for updating? |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
do we have to get all developers to agree or can we update gpl a bit easier? |
| 19:08 |
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oleonard |
Bicker about it for several months, do nothing. |
| 19:08 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 19:08 |
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jcamins |
oleonard seems to understand the procedure. |
| 19:08 |
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cait |
and then return to it a year later and repeat? |
| 19:09 |
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jcamins |
Hopefully we'll be able to agree. |
| 19:09 |
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oleonard |
Actually it should be simpler now if we don't include "stick it to Liblime" as one of the main goals |
| 19:09 |
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oleonard |
(though doing that would be a bonus) |
| 19:09 |
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cait |
stick it to liblime? |
| 19:09 |
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oleonard |
punish them |
| 19:10 |
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drojf |
+1 for punish :P |
| 19:10 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: as I recall, the only substantial objection was SIPServer's license, and and that has been relicensed to 2+. |
| 19:11 |
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tcohen |
jcamins, what should be done with those solr files that break the build process?? |
| 19:12 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I don't know. I have been wondering that ever since they were pushed. |
| 19:12 |
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tcohen |
they look like might be installed in /etc/koha |
| 19:12 |
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koyauni |
jaxmins: can this one be the solution please |
| 19:12 |
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tcohen |
but don't know if they need to be installed in koha/sites/<site> |
| 19:12 |
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koyauni |
http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]guage%20searching |
| 19:13 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: I do not know, and I am not going to encourage you to do something that might break your system. |
| 19:13 |
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wajasu |
jcamins: ok i turned on the XSLT with "default" and see the BK.png in my details in opac and staff client. goning to just add a comment (no signoff needed) right? |
| 19:13 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: right. :) |
| 19:14 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: maybe add those files to debian/rules and stick them in /etc/koha/[whatever their path is in the repo]? |
| 19:14 |
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koyauni |
then it will not be easy |
| 19:15 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: no, it will not. |
| 19:15 |
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jcamins |
It's not that the changes are inherently hard, but they do have to be done correctly, and it would be very easy to mess up other things. |
| 19:16 |
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tcohen |
anyone from biblibre? |
| 19:17 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: here's a thought for a temporary solution: just delete those files in debian/rules |
| 19:17 |
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tcohen |
ok, i'll do it |
| 19:18 |
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tcohen |
is there a bug for that? |
| 19:19 |
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jcamins |
No, I never even got that far in the build process to get that error. |
| 19:20 |
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jcamins |
The one time I tried building packages on master, it failed before it started because the Solr dependencies can't be installed. |
| 19:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #837: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/837/ |
| 19:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* ian.walls: Bug 6151: Add AllowReturnToBranch system preference |
| 19:25 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 6151 follow-up DBREv & removing useless ` |
| 19:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 6151 - Followup - Display message for failed returns on circulation.pl when returning via issues table. |
| 19:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* kyle: Bug 6151 - Followup - Change 'itemnumber' to 'barcode' |
| 19:26 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6151 major, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , IndependantBranches and HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn can prevent items from being checked in |
| 19:26 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 6151 follow-up, fix HTML4 coding guideline |
| 19:26 |
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koyauni |
this Koha community page is not active is it? I have created membership, and when I log in, all I can see is WorkPress member area, |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: what? |
| 19:27 |
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jcamins |
Why are you trying to edit the website? |
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| 19:33 |
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oleonard |
Wow, Bootstrap widgets are REALLY easy to use. |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
yay :) |
| 19:34 |
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oleonard |
Definitely worth another 120K of assets, especially if we're dropping YUI for it |
| 19:34 |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
120k of assets? |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
Morning |
| 19:37 |
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rangi |
Hehe that joke fell flat |
| 19:37 |
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tcohen |
hi rangi |
| 19:38 |
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oleonard |
cait: Bootstrap js: 25KB, bootstrap CSS: 96KB |
| 19:38 |
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oleonard |
And the CSS can be slimmed down because we don't need all of it |
| 19:39 |
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oleonard |
rangi: ? |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
Eythian's joke |
| 19:40 |
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koyauni |
no I want to just post a question see if anyone can help |
| 19:40 |
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koyauni |
http://koha-community.org/wp-admin/user/ |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: looks like bootstrap is a lot smaller than YUI. |
| 19:40 |
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rangi |
What's the license on bootstrap? |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
rangi: Apache 2.0. |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: answers on the website are not answered. |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
Use the mailing list. |
| 19:40 |
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cait |
good morning rangi :) |
| 19:40 |
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koyauni |
but it does not have that option do it, I mean it is not a forum I guess |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
*questions on the website |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
No, it's a website. |
| 19:40 |
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rangi |
Cool that's compatible |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
rangi: only with GPL3/3+. |
| 19:40 |
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rangi |
Yep |
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koyauni |
<jcamins> there is not community base forum for koha then |
| 19:41 |
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oleonard |
The mailing list is that koyauni |
| 19:41 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: there is a mailing list. |
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* rangi |
is off to get a rental car then to Levin |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
Te takere opens soon |
| 19:42 |
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koyauni |
jcamins do you think there will be an answer to my issue or this room is the best I get on koha |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
Testing hardware |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: looks like JS for YUI is ~212kb, and CSS is ~89k. |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: you should send a message to the mailing list. Perhaps someone else will have done it recently. |
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koyauni |
ok I try |
| 19:44 |
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jcamins |
But understand you may not get an immediate response. All the people in the Koha community who help out are doing it for free. |
| 19:44 |
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* tcohen |
needs an ssd on his workstation to test .deb building without freaking out |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: hehe. It does take a while. |
| 19:46 |
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tcohen |
do u know how many GB does the pbuilder stuff need for building Koha? |
| 19:46 |
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tcohen |
maybe i'll try with a tmpfs |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I am not sure, no. |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
I'd like to set it up building on tmpfs when I get my new server... at least until I need the spare RAM for other things. :) |
| 19:47 |
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wajasu |
i tried it with a 6GB VM (why because i had 12GB RAM). but can't recall what i ran into. |
| 19:47 |
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wajasu |
on tmpfs. |
| 19:48 |
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tcohen |
we bought some 128GB servers last month, if they're not full of VM right now i'll ask for some RAM for testing |
| 19:49 |
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tcohen |
wow, I got the .debs finally |
| 19:50 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I have my laptop e-mail me when the build finishes, it takes so long. |
| 19:50 |
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rangi |
Maybe after we finish dealing with lawyers over spurious trademarks we can revisit joining spi, then have a way to handle donations and set up a build farm :-) |
| 19:50 |
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koyauni |
is nit better to create a google group forum for Koha, https://groups.google.com/forum/ |
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drojf |
no google please |
| 19:51 |
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drojf |
for anything |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
Hmm 20 mins on my desktop |
| 19:51 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: we already have mailing lists. |
| 19:51 |
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koyauni |
so people can share experiences |
| 19:51 |
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jcamins |
mailing lists? |
| 19:51 |
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wahanui |
mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 19:51 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: ^^ look there. |
| 19:52 |
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jcamins |
rangi: they tell me that current desktops are superior to 2yo laptops. ;) |
| 19:52 |
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koyauni |
I got that, already member, but got lost already :( |
| 19:53 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: it's very simple. You send an e-mail to the list, everyone who subscribes receives the e-mail, and anyone who wants to can respond. |
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rangi |
There are searchable archives linked from that page too |
| 19:55 |
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rangi |
For building could fire up a beastly ec2 |
| 19:55 |
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rangi |
Build then shut it down |
| 19:56 |
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jcamins |
rangi: yeah, I've thought about that. It's one of those things that is permanently on my to-do list but never at the top. |
| 19:57 |
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rangi |
Yep |
| 19:57 |
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rangi |
Opensuse have a build farm |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
Could maybe use |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
Ok my stop gotta get the rental |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins |
Have a safe trip. |
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wajasu |
jcamins: just for the record. when i was testing the famfam patch, i noticed the suggestion HASH() showing. did you already address that in another bug? |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: yes. |
| 20:00 |
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wajasu |
ok |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: I think you signed off on it, too. :) |
| 20:01 |
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wajasu |
its probably not on master yet |
| 20:01 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 20:02 |
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wajasu |
so i looks like tcohen got debs. |
| 20:03 |
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tcohen |
two fixes for bug 8233 and bug 8623 to get them |
| 20:03 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 major, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
| 20:03 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories |
| 20:03 |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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jcamins |
tcohen++ |
| 20:04 |
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tcohen |
damn |
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tcohen |
i was testing the ,deb building oricess |
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tcohen |
process |
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jcamins |
tcohen: that's good. :) |
| 20:05 |
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tcohen |
so, I didn't get MY debs (for bug 8773) but just master ones |
| 20:05 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
Oh. Oops. :/ |
| 20:05 |
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tcohen |
so, my hands are empty and gotto leave! |
| 20:05 |
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tcohen |
hehe |
| 20:05 |
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tcohen |
maybe tomorrow |
| 20:05 |
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wajasu |
i'm off the hook then |
| 20:05 |
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wajasu |
time to write tests |
| 20:06 |
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tcohen |
wajasu, i'll bring you the packages tomorrow |
| 20:06 |
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tcohen |
bye #koha! |
| 20:06 |
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wajasu |
i will need a repo to pull them from |
| 20:06 |
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wajasu |
i don't have a local one. |
| 20:06 |
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tcohen |
we'll figure it out |
| 20:06 |
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wajasu |
ok |
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tcohen |
@search yui |
| 20:38 |
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huginn |
tcohen: There were no matching configuration variables. |
| 20:39 |
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jcamins |
@query yui |
| 20:39 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin |
| 20:39 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8290 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace Greybox library with jQueryUI Dialog |
| 20:39 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5481 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace YUI JS libraries with Jquery UI |
| 20:39 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5024 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Debian packages don't include YUI plugins |
| 20:39 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI autocomplete with jQueryUI |
| 20:39 |
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tcohen |
i'm at home and wanted to get that .debs built |
| 20:39 |
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tcohen |
he |
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jcamins |
Hehe. I'll get the bug number for you. |
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bag |
wb sekjal |
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sekjal |
hi, bag |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
Bug 8623. |
| 20:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories |
| 20:45 |
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jcamins |
Hi there, sekjal. How's UMass? :) |
| 20:45 |
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sekjal |
jcamins: bumpin'. all the students have swarmed back |
| 20:46 |
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sekjal |
and speaking of swarms, all evening activities are cancelled due to West Nile and East Equine Encephalitis risk |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
Uhhhh... really? |
| 20:46 |
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wahanui |
Of course! |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
That's different. |
| 20:46 |
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sekjal |
4 cases of EEE so far |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
Yikes! |
| 20:47 |
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sekjal |
hopefully we'll get our first hard frost soon |
| 20:47 |
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bag |
wow |
| 20:47 |
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jcamins |
Reasons 1 and 2 to not move to Massachusetts: West Nile virus and East Equine Encephalitis. |
| 20:48 |
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bag |
enh west nile is not that big a deal to us - but to younglings and oldlings - it is |
| 20:48 |
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bag |
it's like the flu for us |
| 20:48 |
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bag |
us being middle aged decently healthly people |
| 20:49 |
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bag |
now EEE that's a different issue |
| 20:49 |
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jcamins |
I have to tell you, those two things were not issues that I had previously considered. |
| 20:50 |
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bag |
oh west nile - most of the mosquitos on the east coast have got it (well most = high percentage) |
| 20:50 |
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bag |
I used to study birds - pre koha - and a west nile study was one that I was invovled in |
| 20:50 |
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jcamins |
Huh. You learn something new every day. |
| 20:51 |
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bag |
we studied mosquitos - near bird nests in maryland… |
| 20:52 |
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bag |
Basically always be careful of misquitos biting you - if you're going into a mosquito area - wear some bug repellant :) |
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jcamins |
That I knew. I am a mosquito magnet. |
| 20:53 |
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bag |
oh sorry |
| 20:53 |
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bag |
Sonja is one too |
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bag |
she's sweet ;) |
| 20:53 |
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bag |
so I guess that means you're sweet too (heh) ;) |
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jcamins |
Yeah, though I'm growing out of it as I age. :P |
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* sekjal |
still gets devoured |
| 20:56 |
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sekjal |
thankfully, I've got a pretty good immune system |
| 20:56 |
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sekjal |
anyway, I've got to get to my bus. just wanted to pop in and wave "hi" |
| 20:56 |
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* sekjal |
waves |
| 20:57 |
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jcamins |
Hi! |
| 20:57 |
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bag |
sekjal should be required to sign in here more :) |
| 20:58 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. Agreed. |
| 21:14 |
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wajasu |
what does "PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE)" mean. Though it says pushed to master. bug 6130 |
| 21:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6130 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , Letters: Fixing Subject encoding |
| 21:16 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: it means do not use that status. |
| 21:16 |
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jcamins |
Oh, on an existing bug? |
| 21:16 |
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tcohen |
wajasu, can I provide u with a koha-common*.deb file for you to test? |
| 21:16 |
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tcohen |
(once I get it created) |
| 21:16 |
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wajasu |
i wonder if bug 4420 is a dup. |
| 21:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4420 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , umlauts or diacritics in subject of notices are deleted |
| 21:16 |
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jcamins |
That means the patch predates the creation of the "Needs signoff" etc. statuses. |
| 21:18 |
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wajasu |
the reason i am looking at these is because when if fixed bug 8378 i think i addressed NFC coding and display of email subject/header fields and also the attachment filenames, so one can have unicode diacritics in them too. |
| 21:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
| 21:18 |
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jcamins |
They may well be obsolete. |
| 21:19 |
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jcamins |
If they are, mark them as resolved. |
| 21:19 |
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wajasu |
i guess i can just try master and send diacritics, then mark them resolved. ok then. |
| 21:22 |
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wajasu |
tcohen: sure. i just haven't installed debs directly. can i use agt-get or such? |
| 21:22 |
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tcohen |
dpkg -i <file> |
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wajasu |
ok |
| 21:22 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: use dpkg -i ${file} |
| 21:22 |
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wajasu |
let me know |
| 21:24 |
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tcohen |
http://es.koha-community.org/kc_files/ |
| 21:27 |
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wajasu |
so i assume you want me to install the koha-common and the koha ones. |
| 21:27 |
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wajasu |
.deb |
| 21:27 |
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tcohen |
just koha-common |
| 21:28 |
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tcohen |
right jcamins? |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
| 21:28 |
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tcohen |
(i'm not a packages expert at all) |
| 21:28 |
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wajasu |
can i do it on a VM that already has koha-common installed, or a fresh VM? |
| 21:28 |
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* jcamins |
was actually typing "Just koha-common" when tcohen said it, but thought that repeating him was silly. |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: it will replace the current version of koha-common. |
| 21:28 |
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tcohen |
don't try it on your production server hehe |
| 21:29 |
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wajasu |
i'm creating a new VM. give me a few minutes |
| 21:30 |
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tcohen |
hmm, dependecies, try installing koha-common from the debian.koha-communty.org repo first so it pulls all the deps |
| 21:32 |
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wajasu |
my vm build script applies the kc koha-common. so after the first boot, i will transfer your deb into the VM and try to apply it. |
| 21:32 |
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tcohen |
and u need to cpan Koha::Contrib::Tamil too |
| 21:32 |
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tcohen |
!! |
| 21:33 |
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wajasu |
whats in your koha-common? i thought it was the Tamil stuff? |
| 21:33 |
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wajasu |
oh. you are just getting the init script into koha common |
| 21:35 |
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tcohen |
it can be done (including tamils code into koha) |
| 21:35 |
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tcohen |
i was not sure what was the best |
| 21:35 |
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wajasu |
i thought you were going to build a Koha::Contrib::Tamil .deb for putting into the kc.org repo |
| 21:35 |
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tcohen |
bug 8774 |
| 21:35 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8774 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , make a deb package of Koha::Contrib::Tamil::IndexerDaemon |
| 21:36 |
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tcohen |
that's another bug this depends on |
| 21:37 |
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wajasu |
if its separate, later if we want to use plack as a server, that talks to zebra, it might be easier if its a separate package. |
| 21:37 |
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wajasu |
ok lets get through this one. |
| 21:37 |
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wajasu |
i'll cpan it |
| 21:37 |
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wajasu |
give me 20 min |
| 21:39 |
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jcamins |
Definitely better to keep the Tamil indexer in a separate package. |
| 21:43 |
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* wajasu |
debian net install in VM running...base...core... |
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tcohen |
wajasu, did u make it work? |
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* wajasu |
90% done creating VM and installing base software... |
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* wajasu |
the VM build is taking longer because i put the deps for pbuilder in. its installing perl modules... 92% done |
| 22:13 |
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* wajasu |
vm created. booting, then will transfer deb into VM with ssh, then dpkg -i it... |
| 22:14 |
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* wajasu |
on phone with client so stalled. |
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tcohen |
wajasu: WAIT |
| 22:15 |
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tcohen |
I had a typo |
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tcohen |
i can't belive i had just one typo :-D |
| 22:23 |
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tcohen |
wajasu, please download the new koha-common package first |
| 22:32 |
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* tcohen |
waves happily as he's got bug 8773 ready for testing |
| 22:32 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 22:32 |
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tcohen |
bye #koah |
| 22:45 |
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* wajasu |
off phone now. i'm downloading your new one. |
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melia |
are the attendance numbers for past KohaCons anywhere? I looked on the wiki but maybe not in the right place... |
| 23:38 |
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jcamins_away |
melia: they should be, but I think they are not. |
| 23:38 |
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melia |
ah well. thanks jacmins_away :) |
| 23:39 |
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jcamins_away |
khall or talljoy might be able to tell you approximately how many people were at the last KohaCon. |
| 23:39 |
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talljoy |
i just filled her in. |
| 23:40 |
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wajasu |
jcamins: i ran tcohen's koha-common but got an error for about every line of code it hit. 1st i had a libtext-unaccent-perl that it needed. |
| 23:41 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: you're going to run into lots of errors because Master\'s dependencies can't be installed on Squeeze. |
| 23:41 |
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wajasu |
do you think it uninstalled all original koha-common, and then had missing deps? |
| 23:41 |
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wajasu |
ok |
| 23:42 |
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jcamins |
If you run apt-get install it will install the missing dependencies that it is able. |
| 23:43 |
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jcamins |
(`apt-get install`) |
| 23:43 |
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jcamins |
Or maybe it's `apt-get -f install` |
| 23:44 |
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wajasu |
ok |
| 23:45 |
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wajasu |
it finishes that quick and starts the koha-common (see bug 8773 " initial test...." attachment |
| 23:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 23:46 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone have any ideas what to do with 1.5 pecks of apples, if you're not someone who is terribly fond of eating raw apples (and if you are getting another peck of apples in two days)? |
| 23:46 |
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wajasu |
i ran koha_perl_deps and had none missing that were required. |
| 23:46 |
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wajasu |
apple pie |
| 23:46 |
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wajasu |
apple sauce |
| 23:47 |
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jcamins |
wajasu: oh, you didn't go through the web installer. |
| 23:47 |
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wajasu |
no. i'll try. |
| 23:47 |
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jcamins |
That's all. |
| 23:47 |
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jcamins |
You can giignore those errors. |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins |
Blargh. |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins |
*ignore |
| 23:49 |
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jcamins |
I'm thinking massive volumes of apple crisp. |
| 23:50 |
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wajasu |
do i have to have KOHA_CONF set up |
| 23:51 |
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jcamins |
Here we go. |
| 23:51 |
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jcamins |
8lbs apples. :) |
| 23:51 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 23:51 |
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jcamins |
Or, you shouldn't. |
| 23:51 |
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jcamins |
If you do, the patch doesn'twroork. |
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wajasu |
this VM already has koha-common installed and everything ready at boot. i just usually hit the webinstaller and init the db. but what i did was cpan Koha::Contrib::Tamil and then dkpg -i koha-common |
| 23:54 |
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wajasu |
it stared unpacking the old (possibly uninstalling the original one), then had an error, missing libtext-unaccent-perl, so i apt-get install libtext-unaccent-perl, and after that installs it automatically retries the new koha-common. |
| 23:55 |
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wajasu |
the webinstaller/login page comes up. |
| 23:57 |
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wajasu |
drop this. the day is over for me. |
| 23:57 |
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wajasu |
thx. |
