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mtj |
yep :) |
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Judit |
morning |
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mtj |
virtual one is already installed, already configured |
| 00:04 |
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mtj |
hi Judit :) |
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bag |
mtj? |
| 03:21 |
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wahanui |
DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 03:21 |
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bag |
love it! |
| 03:25 |
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mtj |
bag , ive just 'discovered' portlandia -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3nMnr8ZirI |
| 03:25 |
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bag |
yeah that's a funny show :) |
| 03:26 |
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mtj |
i'm kinda thinking about growing a sweet goatee, and getting some big holes in my earlobes... |
| 03:27 |
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mtj |
i mean *really* big holes |
| 03:27 |
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bag |
ha |
| 03:28 |
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bag |
do the goatee first then you can match the holes to that :) |
| 03:28 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 03:28 |
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mtj |
pop a kinder-surprise thingy in them, use them for additional storage |
| 03:29 |
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mtj |
rangi be noes where i be cumin' from |
| 03:29 |
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rangi |
http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/ <-- got the mobile theme running |
| 03:29 |
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rangi |
peep that on your phone |
| 03:30 |
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rangi |
(or just resize your browser to small) |
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mtj |
handles a resize, real nice |
| 03:35 |
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mtj |
damn, i really that new opac look |
| 03:35 |
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mtj |
-> love |
| 03:36 |
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rangi |
yeah needs a few follow ups fixing translation issues but is pretty sweet |
| 03:37 |
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mtj |
and... its quite similar-ish to my opac theming attempts, too |
| 03:38 |
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mtj |
cart and lists moved up tha' top, etc... |
| 03:40 |
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rangi |
yep, they work better up there i reckon |
| 03:41 |
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mtj |
i reckon too :) |
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mtj |
heya bart |
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bartsimpson |
hi :) |
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bartsimpson |
rangi: is "text" the same as "varchar" when making mock data? |
| 04:09 |
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rangi |
yup, you can treat them the same |
| 04:13 |
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rangi |
mtj: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/cigame/? |
| 04:15 |
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mtj |
rangi, nice :) can we ring it so i get points for qa-ing stuff? |
| 04:16 |
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mtj |
s/ring/rig/ |
| 04:16 |
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rangi |
heh, it only works on patches that improve the build (or don't break it) |
| 04:16 |
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rangi |
easiest way to get points, fix a failing test, or create new tests |
| 04:17 |
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rangi |
so bartsimpson is gonna get some points when his patches are pushed :) |
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mtj |
ah yep - i actually knew that (but then forgot it too) |
| 04:22 |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
| 04:23 |
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cait |
hi mtj :) |
| 04:23 |
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rangi |
mtj: i started adding descriptions, ill keep doing that :) |
| 04:24 |
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mtj |
hey cait |
| 04:24 |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.org/user/mtj/? |
| 04:27 |
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cait |
mtj: I love your logo :) |
| 04:30 |
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mtj |
thanx, its a 'work in progress' |
| 04:30 |
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mtj |
(as my inkscape skills get better) |
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cait |
:) |
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mtj |
rangi++ |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, julian_m |
| 06:40 |
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mtompset |
I haven't had a chance to look at your feedback on the bug report yet. |
| 06:40 |
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julian_m |
hello mtompset |
| 06:41 |
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mtompset |
bug 8350 |
| 06:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $search = '0' or 0 will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding |
| 06:41 |
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mtompset |
I vaguely remember in some search looking for space. |
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mtompset |
' ' |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:47 |
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julian_m |
mtompset, network issues... what do you want to ask me? |
| 06:48 |
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mtompset |
Sorry to hear that. -- I vaguely recall locking for just a ' ' in some search related issue I encountered. |
| 06:48 |
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mtompset |
Perhaps the title is wrong, and it is a space? |
| 06:48 |
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mtompset |
I haven't had time to go look back at bug 8350. |
| 06:48 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $search = '0' or 0 will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding |
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Judit |
i sthere a maximum number of branches koha can handle |
| 06:56 |
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magnuse |
not that i have heard of |
| 06:57 |
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Judit |
what is the max at the moment out there |
| 06:57 |
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magnuse |
good question :-) |
| 06:58 |
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Judit |
100?1000? |
| 06:59 |
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magnuse |
this is the biggest one i can think of off the top of my head: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary.org/ |
| 07:00 |
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magnuse |
looks like 45 branches |
| 07:00 |
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Judit |
oh |
| 07:00 |
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Judit |
hm |
| 07:01 |
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Judit |
the biggest db? |
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| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
maybe National Library of Venezuela: http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]library.pl?RC=927 |
| 07:02 |
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magnuse |
marshall breeding says they have 7131660 volumes, but they night not all be in koha |
| 07:03 |
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magnuse |
Near East University Library has the number 1.500.000, but not sure that's records or items |
| 07:03 |
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magnuse |
i started a list here: http://libriotech.no/node/74 |
| 07:04 |
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Judit |
thanks |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:08 |
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magnuse |
bonjour gaetan_B |
| 07:12 |
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mveron |
good morning everybody |
| 07:12 |
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mveron |
:-) |
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kf |
hi again #koha |
| 07:29 |
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magnuse |
guten morgen mveron and kf and kohakhan |
| 07:30 |
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kf |
morning magnuse :) |
| 07:30 |
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kf |
hey, have you heard? tomorrow is GBSD! |
| 07:34 |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
| 07:34 |
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magnuse |
next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 07:34 |
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magnuse |
next gbsd? |
| 07:34 |
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wahanui |
next gbsd is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 07:34 |
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magnuse |
wahanui: forget next gbsd |
| 07:34 |
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wahanui |
magnuse: I forgot next gbsd |
| 07:34 |
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magnuse |
next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 07:34 |
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magnuse |
next gbsd? |
| 07:34 |
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wahanui |
well, next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 07:35 |
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magnuse |
w00t! |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
evening |
| 07:35 |
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magnuse |
morning |
| 07:36 |
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magnuse |
in fact, for rangi gbsd is only 4.5 hours away! |
| 07:37 |
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kf |
oh wow |
| 07:37 |
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kf |
and he is already leading the dashboard :) |
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magnuse |
dashboard? |
| 07:42 |
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wahanui |
dashboard is at http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 07:42 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
| 07:43 |
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* magnuse |
hopes someone will take pity on the SIP patches that have been waiting a looong time... |
| 07:43 |
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kf |
yeah :( |
| 07:43 |
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kf |
still have not ifgured out how to test those |
| 07:43 |
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hdl |
magnuse: http://granthalaya.org/ |
| 07:43 |
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kf |
there is also one for ldap |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
hdl: speaking of lots of branches? |
| 07:45 |
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hdl |
magnuse: in order to cope wih SIP, you need the machine. |
| 07:45 |
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hdl |
lots of items |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
ah, ok |
| 07:45 |
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kf |
there are programs to test SIP |
| 07:45 |
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hdl |
It is the biggest one I know of |
| 07:45 |
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kf |
if you don't have the machine :) |
| 07:46 |
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kf |
simulators |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
hdl: do you know the number? |
| 07:46 |
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wahanui |
somebody said the number was right |
| 07:46 |
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rangi |
plano is big |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
wahanui: that sounds promising |
| 07:46 |
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wahanui |
magnuse: sorry... |
| 07:47 |
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rangi |
67 schools |
| 07:48 |
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rangi |
http://catalog.pisd.edu/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl |
| 07:48 |
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hdl |
magnuse: nevermind: seems broken |
| 07:48 |
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magnuse |
would a page of "large koha installations" on the wiki be a good idea? |
| 07:49 |
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kf |
rangi: didn't you do a blog post about big libraries? :) |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
http://findingheroes.co.nz/201[…]r-than-you-think/ |
| 07:50 |
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rangi |
kf: you can actually test sip with telnet |
| 07:50 |
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rangi |
telnet and cut and paste :) |
| 07:51 |
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magnuse |
ah, cool blog post! |
| 07:52 |
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kf |
rangi: yeah, only never have used telnet so far :) and not sure where to cut and paste from - but I knwo it can be done. only not figured out the specifics yet :) |
| 07:59 |
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rangi |
actualy bug 7560 seems to work fine |
| 07:59 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7560 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , SIP Self Checkout Ignoring Fines Thresholds for Not Being able to Check Out Books |
| 08:16 |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
woohoo :) rangi++ |
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eythian |
huginn: you have news for me? |
| 08:30 |
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huginn |
eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 08:55 |
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mtompset |
RDA? |
| 08:55 |
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wahanui |
RDA is probably a room in a twisty maze of standards |
| 08:55 |
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mtompset |
standards? |
| 08:56 |
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mtompset |
Well, that was a nice dead-end. :( |
| 08:56 |
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eythian |
wahanui: a standard is what you use to hold up a fence. |
| 08:56 |
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wahanui |
i haven't a clue, eythian |
| 08:56 |
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eythian |
wahanui: standard is what you use to hold up a fence. |
| 08:56 |
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wahanui |
eythian: bugger all, i dunno |
| 08:56 |
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eythian |
wahanui: standard is what \you use to hold up a fence. |
| 08:56 |
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wahanui |
i don't know, eythian |
| 08:56 |
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eythian |
?! |
| 08:56 |
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eythian |
wahanui: standard is \what \you use to hold up a fence. |
| 08:56 |
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wahanui |
...but standard is not so practical for that... |
| 08:57 |
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eythian |
wahanui: standards are \what \you use to hold up a fence. |
| 08:57 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 08:57 |
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eythian |
there we go |
| 08:57 |
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eythian |
finally |
| 08:58 |
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kf |
lol |
| 08:59 |
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kf |
I noticed he has some problemswith learning new facts lately |
| 08:59 |
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kf |
weather in germany is nice today |
| 08:59 |
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kf |
weather in Germany? |
| 08:59 |
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mtompset |
standards? |
| 08:59 |
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wahanui |
standards are what you use to hold up a fence. |
| 08:59 |
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eythian |
oh, no. It's just his grammar is a bit ... odd. |
| 08:59 |
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mtompset |
RDA? |
| 08:59 |
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wahanui |
RDA is, like, a room in a twisty maze of standards |
| 08:59 |
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mtompset |
standards? |
| 08:59 |
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wahanui |
standards are what you use to hold up a fence. |
| 08:59 |
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eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
| 08:59 |
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wahanui |
⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 08:59 |
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kf |
eythian: yeah, but is/are used to work? |
| 08:59 |
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mtompset |
Nice. |
| 08:59 |
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eythian |
kf: they still do work. It was "what" that was causing the issue |
| 09:00 |
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eythian |
kf: they still do work. It was "what" that was causing the issue |
| 09:00 |
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eythian |
oops |
| 09:00 |
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eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
| 09:00 |
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wahanui |
⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 09:00 |
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mtompset |
What is U+26C4? |
| 09:00 |
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kf |
something? |
| 09:00 |
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kf |
something is something |
| 09:00 |
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kf |
something? |
| 09:00 |
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kf |
not learning! |
| 09:00 |
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kf |
ok.. wouldn't be very useful :) |
| 09:01 |
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eythian |
mtompset: U+26C4 is the unicode for SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 09:01 |
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mtompset |
Yes, that is not useful. |
| 09:01 |
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eythian |
kf: I don't think he learns everything |
| 09:01 |
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eythian |
I'm not sure the criteria |
| 09:02 |
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eythian |
maybe length of the right-hand side (just a guess) |
| 09:02 |
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mtompset |
U+26C4 |
| 09:02 |
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mtompset |
U+26C4? |
| 09:02 |
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wahanui |
U+26C4 is, like, the unicode for SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 09:02 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 09:02 |
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eythian |
wahanui: literal the saddest thing |
| 09:02 |
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wahanui |
eythian: the saddest thing =is= <reply>⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 09:03 |
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eythian |
wahanui: the saddest thing is <reply>⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW|http://ur1.ca/9x67k |
| 09:03 |
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wahanui |
...but saddest thing is <reply>⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW... |
| 09:03 |
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eythian |
no wahanui, the saddest thing is <reply>⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW|http://ur1.ca/9x67k |
| 09:03 |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
| 09:03 |
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eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
| 09:03 |
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wahanui |
⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 09:03 |
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eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
| 09:03 |
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wahanui |
⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 09:03 |
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eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
| 09:03 |
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wahanui |
⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 09:03 |
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eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
| 09:03 |
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wahanui |
⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
| 09:03 |
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eythian |
?! |
| 09:03 |
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eythian |
wahanui: what is the saddest thing? |
| 09:03 |
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wahanui |
the saddest thing is, like, http://ur1.ca/9x67k |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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eythian |
(that last one really is the saddest thing, too) |
| 09:06 |
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kf |
morning drojf |
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eythian |
hi drojf |
| 09:06 |
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drojf |
hey kf and eythian |
| 09:07 |
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mtompset |
Perhaps it resonates at 52Hz... that's touching. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, drojf |
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drojf |
hey mtompset |
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wahanui |
hmmm... mtompset is currently in the Philippines and is coding up a bash script storm in the midst of seasonal typhoons. |
| 09:23 |
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mtompset |
Yes, that's about right. :) |
| 09:24 |
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mtompset |
Lost internet connectivity for a while due to flooding in the local vicinity. |
| 09:25 |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 19.4°C (11:12 AM CEST on August 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 28.0°C (5:00 PM PHT on August 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
YAY! a 16% point drop. Hopefully my colleagues won't be flooded out of the office much longer. |
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koyauni |
hi guys, I am new to Koha and I have used this to install it on my Debian dedicated server |
| 09:33 |
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koyauni |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 09:33 |
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koyauni |
I am stock in the middle is there anyone who can guid me please |
| 09:37 |
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eythian |
Where is "the middle"? |
| 09:39 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #128 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:42 |
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drojf |
wow, external harddisks are still ridiculously expensive. when was that flood when prices went up? a year ago? yeah for collusive pricing |
| 09:44 |
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koyauni |
yes .config file |
| 09:45 |
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eythian |
There is no .config file...you'll have to give more information. |
| 09:45 |
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drojf |
koyauni: it would help if you could ask a concrete question |
| 09:47 |
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koyauni |
there is in here http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 09:47 |
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koyauni |
in this file /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf |
| 09:47 |
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eythian |
that's .conf, there's a difference :) |
| 09:47 |
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eythian |
(mostly in that if you mix them up, stuff won't work) |
| 09:48 |
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koyauni |
that is why I am stock :( |
| 09:49 |
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eythian |
you'll have to ask a question though, or we can't really help you. |
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itachi |
hey follow this to install koha on debian http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.debian;hb=HEAD |
| 09:51 |
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eythian |
no, don't |
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eythian |
(unless you specifically want a git install) |
| 09:52 |
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drojf |
and spend a lot more time on your installation than necessary |
| 09:55 |
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itachi |
well can you please give me a link for a guide on how to install koha on debian |
| 09:56 |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze <-- right there |
| 09:57 |
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mtompset |
There are three ways to install Koha. |
| 09:57 |
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koyauni |
I would rather follow the one on wiki as I have done most of it, |
| 09:57 |
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mtompset |
packages? |
| 09:57 |
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wahanui |
i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 09:57 |
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mtompset |
git? |
| 09:57 |
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wahanui |
i think git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 09:57 |
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koyauni |
I do not want to get lost between different installation |
| 09:57 |
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mtompset |
tarball? |
| 09:57 |
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wahanui |
The tarballs are available at http://download.koha-community.org/ though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. |
| 09:57 |
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mtompset |
which install to use? |
| 09:57 |
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wahanui |
If you're developing, you should use git. If you're not developing on a deb-based system, you should use packages. If you're not developing on a different flavour of Linux, you should use the tarball. |
| 09:57 |
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mtompset |
koyauni is doing a packages install, which is correct. |
| 09:57 |
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drojf |
koyauni: yes, continue with that, it is what you want |
| 09:57 |
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itachi |
thank you.....what is the difference between those two kind of installation |
| 09:58 |
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koyauni |
I am basic user in Linus and new to Koha |
| 09:58 |
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mtompset |
packages is pre-built for the user. |
| 09:58 |
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mtompset |
everything is assembled, and it comes with handy-dandy scripts to boot. |
| 09:59 |
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koyauni |
just need help with that ,conf file what I actually need to write |
| 09:59 |
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koyauni |
I wish one day Koha become as easy as installing Drupal |
| 09:59 |
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eythian |
what you write depends on your setup. It has explanations for each of the options. |
| 10:00 |
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mtompset |
koha is way easier than drupal... well, I did do drupal on an RPM-based OS. |
| 10:00 |
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eythian |
if you're stuck on one of them, you should ask about it. |
| 10:00 |
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koyauni |
I mean put the pack in on folder and do web based config that it with Drupal, |
| 10:01 |
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koyauni |
first line I did |
| 10:01 |
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koyauni |
DOMAIN=".koyauniversity.org" # Any library instance will be a subdomain of this string. |
| 10:01 |
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eythian |
seems fine |
| 10:01 |
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* mtompset |
nods. |
| 10:01 |
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koyauni |
2nd one I left it as it is |
| 10:01 |
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koyauni |
INTRAPORT="80" # TCP listening port for the administration interface |
| 10:01 |
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eythian |
sure |
| 10:01 |
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koyauni |
3rd , INTRAPREFIX="admin" # For administration interface URL: Prefix to be added to the instance name. |
| 10:02 |
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koyauni |
I have one user URL as library.koyauniversity.org |
| 10:02 |
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koyauni |
and admin as libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org |
| 10:02 |
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eythian |
yep |
| 10:02 |
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eythian |
then that's what you want |
| 10:03 |
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mtompset |
wait, wouldn't that be SUFFIX not PREFIX? |
| 10:03 |
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eythian |
oh |
| 10:03 |
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eythian |
good point |
| 10:03 |
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eythian |
yes |
| 10:03 |
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mtompset |
leave INTRANETPREFIX="" |
| 10:04 |
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mtompset |
and put INTRANETSUFFIX="admin" |
| 10:04 |
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mtompset |
that will map like you have said. |
| 10:04 |
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eythian |
INTRAPREFIX |
| 10:04 |
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eythian |
and INTRASUFFIX |
| 10:04 |
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wahanui |
i heard INTRASUFFIX was so you can put -admin or something as the suffix on the name of the staff client |
| 10:04 |
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koyauni |
thats where I stock |
| 10:04 |
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mtompset |
Oops... I made a typo. |
| 10:04 |
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mtompset |
leave INTRAPREFIX="" |
| 10:04 |
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mtompset |
and put INTRASUFFIX="admin" |
| 10:05 |
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eythian |
koyauni: right, you just do what makes sense there, which is the way mtompset is explaining it. |
| 10:05 |
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koyauni |
yes, |
| 10:05 |
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mtompset |
that will give the staff client libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org |
| 10:05 |
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mtompset |
and library.kohauniversity.org for OPAC. |
| 10:05 |
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koyauni |
oh I left the INTRAPREFIX empty |
| 10:05 |
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koyauni |
and next one "admin" |
| 10:05 |
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mtompset |
Yes. |
| 10:06 |
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eythian |
the "next one" is INTRASUFFIX, yes? |
| 10:06 |
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koyauni |
INTRASUFFIX="admin" |
| 10:06 |
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mtompset |
right. |
| 10:06 |
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koyauni |
INTRAPREFIX="" |
| 10:06 |
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* eythian |
really needs to make it ask these questions at install time. |
| 10:06 |
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mtompset |
yes. |
| 10:06 |
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koyauni |
what is OPACPORT="" |
| 10:07 |
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mtompset |
You could have it on a different port. |
| 10:07 |
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koyauni |
it did not ask me |
| 10:07 |
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mtompset |
if you wanted library.koyauniversity.org:12345 ... you'd put 12345 as the port. |
| 10:07 |
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koyauni |
ok |
| 10:07 |
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koyauni |
8080 |
| 10:07 |
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koyauni |
is ok then |
| 10:07 |
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eythian |
really? |
| 10:07 |
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wahanui |
Of course! |
| 10:08 |
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koyauni |
OPACPORT="8080" |
| 10:08 |
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mtompset |
no, because OPAC is NOT the staff client. |
| 10:08 |
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eythian |
normally you'd want port 80. |
| 10:08 |
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mtompset |
Yes, what eythian said. |
| 10:08 |
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koyauni |
OPACPREFIX="library" |
| 10:08 |
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eythian |
no |
| 10:08 |
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itachi |
no thats the users interface be careful |
| 10:08 |
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eythian |
that's a prefix, that's not the name |
| 10:08 |
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mtompset |
OPAC is the user client. |
| 10:08 |
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eythian |
if you do that you'll end up with "librarylibrary" |
| 10:08 |
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itachi |
yes |
| 10:08 |
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mtompset |
No, leave the OPACPREFIX and OPACSUFFIX blank. |
| 10:08 |
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koyauni |
so libraryadmin then |
| 10:08 |
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koyauni |
OPACPREFIX="libraryadmin" |
| 10:09 |
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mtompset |
No... blank. |
| 10:09 |
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itachi |
leaving it means 80 and nothing will show up after.org |
| 10:09 |
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mtompset |
OPACPREFIX="SAMPLE" |
| 10:09 |
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mtompset |
means SAMPLElibrary.koyauniversity.org |
| 10:09 |
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eythian |
OPAC is Online Public Access Catalog, this is not your staff client. |
| 10:10 |
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mtompset |
OPACSUFFIX="EXAMPLE" means |
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| 10:10 |
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mtompset |
SAMPLElibraryEXAMPLE.koyauniversity.org |
| 10:10 |
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eythian |
this is why Koha can't be set up like drupal, drupal doesn't need multiple interfaces to one application like this. |
| 10:11 |
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koyauni |
ok I leave those blank then |
| 10:11 |
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eythian |
yes |
| 10:11 |
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mtompset |
Yes. |
| 10:13 |
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koyauni |
ok |
| 10:14 |
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koyauni |
like this |
| 10:14 |
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koyauni |
OPACSUFFIX="" |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
DOMAIN=".koyauniversity.org" # Any library instance will be a subdomain of this string. |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
INTRAPORT="80" # TCP listening port for the administration interface |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
INTRAPREFIX="" # For administration interface URL: Prefix to be added to the instance name. |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
INTRASUFFIX="admin" # For administration interface URL: Suffix to be added to the instance name. |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
DEFAULTSQL="" # only needed if you're pre-populating from another Koha database |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
OPACPORT="80" # TCP listening port for the users' interface |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
OPACPREFIX="" # For users' interface URL: Prefix to be added to the instance name. |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
OPACSUFFIX="" # For users' interface URL: Prefix to be added to the instance name. |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT="marc21" # Specifies format of MARC records to be indexed by Zebra. Possible values are 'marc21', 'normarc' and 'unimarc' |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
ZEBRA_LANGUAGE="en" # Primary language for Zebra indexing. Possible values are 'en', 'fr' and 'nb' |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
Hmm.... should have pastebin'd that. |
| 10:14 |
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mtompset |
paste? |
| 10:14 |
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wahanui |
i guess paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 10:14 |
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pastebot |
"mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "What your file should look like." (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/85 |
| 10:15 |
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mtompset |
I assumed you were using Marc21 and EN. |
| 10:15 |
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koyauni |
yes |
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mtompset |
I'm assuming it will ask for the hostname part, eythian? Or is it going to grab it from the machinename? |
| 10:16 |
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koyauni |
the host name is the same as the main domain] |
| 10:17 |
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eythian |
mtompset: the hostname is the name you give to koha-create |
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| 10:17 |
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mtompset |
Ah, okay... so his koha-create command will be koha-create library? |
| 10:17 |
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eythian |
in koyauni's case, he'd want to do 'koha-create --create-db library' (later on, not now, work through the steps first, don't jump ahead) |
| 10:18 |
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eythian |
yeah, more or less |
| 10:18 |
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mtompset |
sudo koha-create --create-db library. |
| 10:18 |
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eythian |
no |
| 10:18 |
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eythian |
not yet |
| 10:18 |
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eythian |
also with no . at the end when the time comes |
| 10:18 |
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mtompset |
I know not yet... he's got a couple steps before that. |
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| 10:19 |
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mtompset |
Oh, an koyauni --- ignore that /etc/koha/passwd thing... it is a confusing comment for power user setups. |
| 10:19 |
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eythian |
I was making sure he didn't go and do it now because it would fail and cause an annoying situation to fix. |
| 10:20 |
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mtompset |
He's got the sudo a2enmod rewrite, sudo apt-get install mysql-server first. |
| 10:20 |
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eythian |
yeah, that passwd thing needs to be removed. |
| 10:20 |
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eythian |
or put somewhere else |
| 10:21 |
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mtompset |
I'm still pondering the install process how to better synchronize the tarball, git, and packages install instructions. |
| 10:22 |
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eythian |
I want to get more of it automated eventually |
| 10:23 |
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mtompset |
Because the pre-install stuff is the same for all three: add repo, apt-get update, upgrade |
| 10:24 |
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mtompset |
technically, the install mysql-server step could be combined with the tarball's dselect steps. |
| 10:25 |
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mtompset |
It's when you do the install koha-common vs. building... that's when it deviates. |
| 10:25 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 10:25 |
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mtompset |
But then it rejoins for some apache2 stuff... |
| 10:26 |
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mtompset |
sort of. |
| 10:27 |
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mtompset |
the koha-create step is kind of like the sudo make install. |
| 10:27 |
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eythian |
I won't conflate them, semantically and what they do is almost totally different. |
| 10:27 |
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mtompset |
but the the latter requires a bunch of linking. |
| 10:27 |
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eythian |
for example, running koha-create again is possible and will do something sensible, running make install won't |
| 10:28 |
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mtompset |
Yes, that is yet another advantage of packages... easy site management. |
| 10:29 |
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mtompset |
you can get multiple sites with packages, you can't with tarballs and gits. |
| 10:33 |
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itachi |
can i ask a question about managing the system? i mean koha |
| 10:34 |
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mtompset |
Seeing, as koyauni has gone quiet, why not? :) |
| 10:34 |
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itachi |
ok so after you have everything ready i mean the records and they all have Call Number and Control number |
| 10:35 |
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itachi |
how do you start sorting them in shelves ? |
| 10:37 |
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mtompset |
That sounds like a librarian type question. Sorry, I don't know. |
| 10:37 |
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itachi |
aha ok can you lead me to someone knows about those stuff |
| 10:44 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #128: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/128/ |
| 10:44 |
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jenkins_koha |
oleonard: Bug 8590 - checked out from missing on patron detail |
| 10:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8590 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , checked out from missing on patron detail |
| 10:44 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #129 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:46 |
|
* mtompset |
doesn't know. Sorry. I'm still pretty new to the community. |
| 10:47 |
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* mtompset |
wanders off for a meal called supper. |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
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drojf |
hi jcamins |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #129: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/129/ |
| 11:49 |
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jenkins_koha |
jcamins: Bug 8572: invalid auth shouldn't cause error |
| 11:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8572 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Attempting to view an invalid authority in the OPAC gives an error instead of 404 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, jcamins jwagner nengard and sophie_m |
| 12:01 |
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nengard |
:) |
| 12:04 |
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koyauni |
sorry guys, |
| 12:04 |
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koyauni |
I was doing what every father does, feeding my child :) |
| 12:04 |
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koyauni |
I have done up to sudo koha-create --use-db biblio where I force the installation to use our DB |
| 12:05 |
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mtompset |
no no no... |
| 12:05 |
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koyauni |
and created a passwd file as well |
| 12:05 |
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mtompset |
Okay... I just did this the other day. |
| 12:05 |
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mtompset |
taking my data from another system and putting it into the packages version. |
| 12:05 |
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koyauni |
it world not work |
| 12:06 |
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koyauni |
no thsi is just empty DB |
| 12:06 |
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mtompset |
okay... So, you haven't run the koha-create yet? |
| 12:06 |
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koyauni |
but the DB is created in Plesk and then I can have auto backup on that DB via Plesk |
| 12:06 |
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koyauni |
I did run sudo koha-create --use-db myDB |
| 12:07 |
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mtompset |
well 'library' was what you were supposed to use. :) |
| 12:07 |
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koyauni |
and it was fine |
| 12:07 |
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mtompset |
that way it sets up for library.koyauniversity.org |
| 12:08 |
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mtompset |
and libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org |
| 12:08 |
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koyauni |
ok, so I do not need to do anything else then |
| 12:08 |
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mtompset |
well... let's see... |
| 12:08 |
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mtompset |
Pulling up the page |
| 12:08 |
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mtompset |
packages? |
| 12:08 |
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wahanui |
packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 12:08 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: didn't rangi suggest using koha-create to create the database and then setting up Plesk to do the automatic backup? |
| 12:08 |
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koyauni |
thsi is a new server and DNS still point to the old server |
| 12:09 |
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eythian |
that would make a lot more sense |
| 12:09 |
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koyauni |
does it make any different |
| 12:09 |
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eythian |
you're trying to make shortcuts when you don't really know the way |
| 12:09 |
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eythian |
that's a bad idea doomed to failure |
| 12:10 |
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* mtompset |
nods, "Been there. Done than. Doomed ideas that is." |
| 12:10 |
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koyauni |
ok, I can do it that way |
| 12:10 |
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jcamins |
koyauni: yes. You are inexperienced with Linux, but you're trying to do something no one else has done. |
| 12:10 |
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koyauni |
:) |
| 12:10 |
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koyauni |
can I reverse that step |
| 12:11 |
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mtompset |
What is it? koha-remove? |
| 12:11 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 12:11 |
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koyauni |
and do this now sudo koha-create --create-db biblio |
| 12:11 |
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eythian |
no |
| 12:11 |
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eythian |
where does biblio come from? |
| 12:11 |
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koyauni |
or it is now done! and way back |
| 12:11 |
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eythian |
why do you keep doing that? |
| 12:12 |
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mtompset |
koyauni: I told you use library, because you want library.koyauniversity.org |
| 12:12 |
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drojf |
because its in the example… |
| 12:12 |
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koyauni |
ohh that is from wiki instruction page |
| 12:12 |
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mtompset |
biblio is AN EXAMPLE. |
| 12:12 |
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koyauni |
sudo koha-create --create-db mykohaLibrary |
| 12:12 |
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mtompset |
Your case you want ..... |
| 12:12 |
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mtompset |
NO. |
| 12:12 |
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mtompset |
library. |
| 12:12 |
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wahanui |
library is given the option, via the "/" of whether or not to be that specific in their own classification of the book. |
| 12:13 |
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mtompset |
sudo koha-create --create-db library |
| 12:13 |
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magnuse |
wahanui: forget library |
| 12:13 |
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wahanui |
magnuse: I forgot library |
| 12:13 |
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koyauni |
sudo koha-create --create-db library |
| 12:13 |
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mtompset |
yes |
| 12:13 |
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koyauni |
it has to be that then |
| 12:13 |
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mtompset |
yes, because you want library.koyauniversity.org |
| 12:13 |
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koyauni |
yes, so db should be the same as subdoamin |
| 12:13 |
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koyauni |
domain |
| 12:14 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 12:14 |
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koyauni |
ok, lets do this then |
| 12:14 |
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eythian |
oh, someone's edited that page and made things more confusing |
| 12:15 |
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mtompset |
That would be you. :P |
| 12:15 |
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mtompset |
May 13-August 9... you made changes, eythian |
| 12:16 |
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mtompset |
Unless you are talking about Narcisgarcia's April 25-26 stint. |
| 12:17 |
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eythian |
I didn't add anything to do with the passwd stuff, I have changed it to make it more obvious that it's optional |
| 12:17 |
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eythian |
but not obvious enough |
| 12:17 |
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eythian |
Using an existing db should be considered advanced |
| 12:18 |
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eythian |
and not in the standard instructions |
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jcamins |
julian_m++ |
| 12:19 |
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mtompset |
Yes, it was Narcisgarcia. April 25. |
| 12:20 |
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mtompset |
But you did edit it after. You didn't read the whole page? ;) |
| 12:20 |
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julian_m |
:) |
| 12:20 |
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eythian |
Not with that in mind |
| 12:20 |
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eythian |
I've been putting it off a bit because I know it needs a start-from-scratch rewrite |
| 12:21 |
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koyauni |
I did that now |
| 12:22 |
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eythian |
cool. All going well, it might be working now. |
| 12:23 |
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mtompset |
I don't think it needs a start from scratch rewrite. |
| 12:23 |
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mtompset |
It generally is pretty good. |
| 12:23 |
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mtompset |
It needs a couple things cut and added, but not much. |
| 12:23 |
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eythian |
Well, I want to make it a bit more step-by-step really. And maybe link to optional things |
| 12:24 |
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eythian |
though right now, I'm going to remove that stuff about the passwd and existing database and such. |
| 12:24 |
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eythian |
It's tripped a few people up |
| 12:24 |
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mtompset |
And add a comment about the name after --create-db is linked to the subdomain. |
| 12:25 |
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koyauni |
I think screenshots are best |
| 12:25 |
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eythian |
koyauni: screenshots of terminal commands are hard to copy-paste :) |
| 12:26 |
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* mtompset |
grins, "Yes, it's sort of silly to have a screen shot." |
| 12:26 |
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mtompset |
If it was a graphical install, then most certainly, but terminal commands... just formatted text. |
| 12:26 |
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liw |
not having many steps to install is best |
| 12:26 |
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koyauni |
it need to be consistence references to element in this process. it need to be dummy prove ! |
| 12:27 |
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mtompset |
Sadly, koyauni, there is a better dummy born every minute. |
| 12:27 |
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mtompset |
So dummy proof is extremely hard to get. |
| 12:28 |
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eythian |
koyauni: the problem is installing a server application onto a server operating system when you don't know how servers work properly. That's like saying it should be dummy-proof to add a room onto your house when you don't know anything about building. |
| 12:28 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hey i take over for koyauni |
| 12:28 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
instancename:username:password:databasename |
| 12:28 |
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mtompset |
I cleaned up the tarball install instructions for Ubuntu, and someone complained I didn't explain how to set up a memcached server. |
| 12:29 |
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eythian |
There are so many possible configurations that it's hard to know what someone wants. |
| 12:29 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: you should ignore that step |
| 12:29 |
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eythian |
in about 3 minutes it'll be deleted |
| 12:29 |
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koyauni |
is this correct instancename:username:password:databasename |
| 12:29 |
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mtompset |
NO! |
| 12:29 |
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eythian |
no. |
| 12:29 |
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mtompset |
you don't need it. |
| 12:29 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
instance=library......databasename=what ever database we use |
| 12:29 |
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mtompset |
Trust me,... I had the pleasure of figuring that out lately. |
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mtompset |
mib_sdkm9v: Don't follow that step. |
| 12:30 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
ok |
| 12:30 |
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mtompset |
Stop doing steps. |
| 12:30 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
then i delete the passwd file |
| 12:30 |
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koyauni |
so in my case that file of passwd should contain instancename:username:password:library |
| 12:30 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
right? |
| 12:30 |
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eythian |
koyauni: the password file doesn't need to exist at all |
| 12:30 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: yep, deleting it is fine |
| 12:30 |
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koyauni |
:( so no step thing |
| 12:31 |
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eythian |
koyauni: also, why have you gone backwards through the process? |
| 12:31 |
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drojf |
what is wrong with that file? |
| 12:31 |
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* drojf |
is confused now |
| 12:31 |
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koyauni |
ok I remove it |
| 12:31 |
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mtompset |
eythian is cleaning up the instructions, so please slow down, mib_sdkm9v. |
| 12:31 |
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koyauni |
I will be back in 2 hrs and check again |
| 12:31 |
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koyauni |
sorry I have to go, many thanks for your time |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins |
drojf: it confuses people. |
| 12:31 |
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eythian |
drojf: it's totally and completely unnecessary unless you are doing advanced things |
| 12:32 |
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eythian |
I've never ever used it. |
| 12:32 |
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eythian |
for example |
| 12:32 |
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mtompset |
I thought it was necessary as part of transplanting our DB into packages... it isn't. |
| 12:32 |
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drojf |
i dont know what advanced things it would do, i thought its just to set your password yourself |
| 12:33 |
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jcamins |
drojf: it lets you share a database between multiple instances. |
| 12:33 |
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mtompset |
You only need to log into koha ONCE as the default user. |
| 12:33 |
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mtompset |
No need to try to set your own password. |
| 12:34 |
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eythian |
drojf: it can be used to let you define the password yourself, but that's not something that's necessary. |
| 12:34 |
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drojf |
ah ok. i only used it with a database that i just created in the koha-create command and that did not seem to be a problem. but then i did not really see what it would be useful for |
| 12:35 |
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mtompset |
By the way, does the koha package still exist? Is bug 5071 ever going to get fixed? |
| 12:35 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5071 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Make the 'koha' package set things up so that zebra etc. just work |
| 12:35 |
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jcamins |
We should probably remove it, I suppose. |
| 12:35 |
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eythian |
mtompset: it's on my "want to fix" list |
| 12:36 |
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eythian |
the problem you end up with though is that you can't pick a configuration that'll work for many people all that easily |
| 12:36 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
mtompset...eythian what should i do to finish the installation ? :) |
| 12:36 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: wait one moment |
| 12:36 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
ok :) |
| 12:40 |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ueeze#Quick_Start <-- this is now hopefully less confusing |
| 12:40 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
thank you |
| 12:41 |
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liw |
eythian, "OPACSUFFIX="" # For users' interface URL: Prefix to be added to the instance name." -- s/Prefix/Suffix/ ? |
| 12:42 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
can ai past a out put here |
| 12:42 |
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eythian |
liw: fixed, ta |
| 12:42 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
of koha-sites.conf |
| 12:42 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: if it's a couple of lines, yes. Otherwise use pastebin |
| 12:42 |
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eythian |
wahanui: paste |
| 12:42 |
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wahanui |
i guess paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 12:42 |
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eythian |
liw: I want to make debconf build that file at some stage. |
| 12:43 |
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jcamins |
nengard: Long Island City? Not exactly a hopping vacation spot. :) |
| 12:43 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
9 lines exactly |
| 12:43 |
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nengard |
LOL |
| 12:43 |
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jcamins |
Use paste.koha-community.org |
| 12:43 |
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liw |
eythian, *nod* |
| 12:43 |
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nengard |
Just going to teach them all about wordpress for the day |
| 12:43 |
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nengard |
and then home |
| 12:43 |
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nengard |
I use tripit to track work travel :) |
| 12:43 |
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mtompset |
http://paste.koha-community.org/85 |
| 12:43 |
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pastebot |
"mib_sdkm9v" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-sites.conf" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/87 |
| 12:43 |
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mtompset |
This is what I pasted before for koyauni. |
| 12:44 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: that looks OK to me |
| 12:44 |
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jcamins |
There is a very good sea food restaurant in LIC. Don't know exactly where, though, or what it's called, so... |
| 12:44 |
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mtompset |
Yes. |
| 12:44 |
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mtompset |
That is fine, mib_sdkm9v |
| 12:44 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
ok very good |
| 12:44 |
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jcamins |
If you run into an excellent seafood restaurant, let me know 'cause Shari and I would like to go back. ;) |
| 12:45 |
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eythian |
mtompset: can you have a glance over that page and see if it's clearer for you now? |
| 12:46 |
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eythian |
(my problem is I know how it all works too deeply) |
| 12:46 |
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mtompset |
debian? |
| 12:46 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... debian is what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that |
| 12:46 |
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mtompset |
packages |
| 12:46 |
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wahanui |
packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 12:46 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 12:46 |
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mtompset |
I would have left the localhost version in. |
| 12:47 |
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eythian |
I was thinking that would be better off on another page |
| 12:47 |
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eythian |
I want to have a limited amount of options on here |
| 12:47 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hmm when i enter libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org it gets directed to www.koyauniversity.org |
| 12:48 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
dns problems right? |
| 12:48 |
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mtompset |
Yes, but inevitably, someone is going to ask, what if I don't have a named host? |
| 12:48 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: most likely |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: |
| 12:48 |
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eythian |
libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org is an alias for koyauniversity.org. |
| 12:48 |
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eythian |
koyauniversity.org has address 69.64.90.112 |
| 12:48 |
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eythian |
www.koyauniversity.org has address 69.64.90.112 |
| 12:48 |
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eythian |
definitely a DNS problem |
| 12:49 |
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eythian |
mtompset: in that case, I would suggest that they use their /etc/hosts file to set it up |
| 12:49 |
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eythian |
which means that as soon as they get DNS set up, it will work. |
| 12:50 |
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mtompset |
Yes, but I'm running in a local host VM environment. I don't want named hosts. I know the ip address of the machine and will be going to it. |
| 12:50 |
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mtompset |
particularly since the ip address is dynamic. |
| 12:50 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
so what i do with the host file |
| 12:51 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: nothing |
| 12:51 |
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eythian |
well |
| 12:51 |
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eythian |
it depends |
| 12:51 |
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eythian |
is it easier for you to fix your DNS now, or do you want something that'll make it go now? |
| 12:52 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
im not quite femiliar with cpanal if there is anything i can do in terminal tell me |
| 12:52 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
to fix the dns problem |
| 12:52 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
nope |
| 12:52 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: we can't guide you in that, it's up to your network administrators to do so. |
| 12:52 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i want to fix the DNS |
| 12:53 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i am my network administrator its my own |
| 12:53 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
:/ |
| 12:53 |
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eythian |
mtompset: I'm running in a local host VM environment. My hostnames are 'koha' and 'koha-intra', and they're defined in /etc/hosts |
| 12:53 |
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mtompset |
yes, but then you get into the editor wars. |
| 12:53 |
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eythian |
in that case, however you've set up the DNS entry for library. and libaryadmin., you'll have to change them to point to your koha box |
| 12:53 |
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mtompset |
less edit'ing good. |
| 12:54 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
they are defined there cuz your are on a localhost |
| 12:54 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
and my koha box is>? |
| 12:54 |
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mtompset |
Yes, I know how to do it, but it's a pain. |
| 12:54 |
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eythian |
mtompset: the problem is that if you want to take your locally setup box and make it work on a LAN, it's now more work. |
| 12:54 |
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eythian |
which is the sort of thing people want to do. |
| 12:55 |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... I can see your point. |
| 12:55 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: use 'ifconfig' to find that out, it'll tell you your IP address. |
| 12:55 |
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eythian |
I think erring towards a best-practices setup is the best idea. |
| 12:55 |
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magnuse |
best-practices++ |
| 12:55 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
so i got ifconfig after that what |
| 12:57 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: it tells you your IP address. You put that IP address into the system that runs your DNS in order to point the right domain names at the koha system. |
| 12:57 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
aha |
| 12:57 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
got it ;) |
| 12:58 |
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eythian |
cool |
| 12:58 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
but just so you knwo |
| 12:58 |
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mtompset |
Okay... so do I leave domain blank on the initial install, or do I take a wild guess at where I will be hosted? |
| 12:59 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
the koha is on the same server which handle everything |
| 12:59 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
you get me |
| 12:59 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: ohh |
| 12:59 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yup |
| 12:59 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
-_- |
| 12:59 |
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eythian |
as in, it's supposed to be on the same server that hosts www.koyauniversity.org as well? |
| 13:00 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yes its on the same server |
| 13:00 |
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eythian |
ah, then the DNS is correct. |
| 13:00 |
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eythian |
Most people put it on a different server |
| 13:00 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yes |
| 13:00 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
well its on the same server |
| 13:00 |
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eythian |
in that case, you'll have to have a look at your apache configuration to see how it needs to change |
| 13:01 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
and there is only one ip which is koyauniversity.org's one |
| 13:01 |
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eythian |
you will have /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library and that contains the config generated for koha |
| 13:02 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yes i know i installed many git versions before without any problem its a server problem |
| 13:03 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
editing the file been shortcut to sites-available is better |
| 13:03 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
right? |
| 13:04 |
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eythian |
cool, I usually find when that happens that I've done something silly with my virtual host config |
| 13:04 |
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jcamins |
mib_sdkm9v: it's the same file. |
| 13:04 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: they're both the same file |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i know but editing from the files and not the shorts |
| 13:05 |
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eythian |
it makes no difference really |
| 13:06 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
and the dns which handle them is on the same server |
| 13:06 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
you get me>? |
| 13:06 |
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jcamins |
mib_sdkm9v: are you are using A records for all the DNS? |
| 13:06 |
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eythian |
jcamins: the koha stuff is a CNAME |
| 13:07 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: that's a fairly bad idea, in general. |
| 13:07 |
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jcamins |
eythian: ah, missed that part. |
| 13:07 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i well i dont know i just started working on this server 10 mins ago |
| 13:07 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
well thats how is it |
| 13:07 |
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eythian |
heh OK, not your fault then :) |
| 13:07 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
everything on one server |
| 13:08 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
and one dedicated ip address |
| 13:08 |
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eythian |
I think I'd probably make the gateway a reverse proxy so I could split servers up behind it in that situation. |
| 13:09 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
-_- more work |
| 13:09 |
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eythian |
or just make everybody move to IPv6 so it was no longer an issue :) |
| 13:09 |
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* jcamins |
would probably switch the DNS to A records... easier to troubleshoot. |
| 13:09 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hhhhhhhhh |
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eythian |
I've never had problems with CNAMEs |
| 13:09 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
jcamins i think its the way its working |
| 13:10 |
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eythian |
also, it's not the DNS issue here, I think it's an apache config thing |
| 13:10 |
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jcamins |
eythian: nor have I. However, right now www and koha are on the same box. I foresee fun times in a year when things are rearchitected, and the website gets moved without the CNAMEs being updated. |
| 13:10 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
which .conf exactly |
| 13:10 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
? |
| 13:11 |
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eythian |
yeah, fair enough |
| 13:11 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: we could have no possible idea |
| 13:11 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hhhhh damn -_- |
| 13:11 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i must check them all |
| 13:11 |
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mtompset |
Isn't there a grep to help? |
| 13:11 |
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eythian |
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2[…]sts/examples.html <-- this kind of thing may be useful |
| 13:12 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: without knowing what the problem is, it would be problematic. |
| 13:12 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
no no i can find the files |
| 13:12 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
but which one has the problem ...looks like no one knows |
| 13:12 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hey the httpd.conf file |
| 13:13 |
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eythian |
the problem is that it's caused by something that's specific to your configuration |
| 13:13 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
is it supposed to be empty? |
| 13:13 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 13:13 |
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mtompset |
mine is? |
| 13:14 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
another question |
| 13:15 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
is the sites available there is library |
| 13:15 |
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mtompset |
which is the same as sites-enabled. |
| 13:15 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
dose adminlibrary need to be there too |
| 13:15 |
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eythian |
it should be inside that file |
| 13:15 |
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eythian |
it should have two virtualhost entries |
| 13:15 |
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mtompset |
ls |
| 13:15 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yes |
| 13:15 |
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mtompset |
Oops... |
| 13:15 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i know |
| 13:16 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i found something |
| 13:16 |
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eythian |
the second one should say "ServerName libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org" or similar |
| 13:16 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
the virtual host and the intranet (admin panal) are on the same port |
| 13:16 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
which is 80 |
| 13:16 |
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eythian |
that's normal |
| 13:16 |
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eythian |
that's why they're virtual hosts :) |
| 13:17 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
:/ everything looks good there |
| 13:18 |
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mtompset |
Did you restart apache2? |
| 13:18 |
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eythian |
a good question. |
| 13:18 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yup -_- |
| 13:18 |
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mtompset |
Are the named hosts in ports.conf? |
| 13:19 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
a sec |
| 13:19 |
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eythian |
I don't think you need to do that |
| 13:19 |
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eythian |
I just have, e.g. NameVirtualHost *:80 |
| 13:19 |
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eythian |
or similar |
| 13:19 |
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mtompset |
But NameVirtualHost shouldn't be commented out, should it? |
| 13:19 |
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eythian |
No |
| 13:19 |
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mtompset |
Right. |
| 13:20 |
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* mtompset |
laughs, "We're agreeing in a bizarre way." |
| 13:20 |
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eythian |
:) |
| 13:20 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hhhhhhh everything looks good guys |
| 13:20 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
it must be a dns problem |
| 13:21 |
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eythian |
I don't think it is |
| 13:21 |
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eythian |
the DNS looks OK |
| 13:21 |
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mtompset |
does the ip address of ifconfig match the ip address of library.koyauniversity.org? |
| 13:22 |
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mtompset |
perhaps there is some bizarre reverse proxy that needs to know about it. |
| 13:22 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
library.koyauniversity.org is a subdomain |
| 13:22 |
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eythian |
it still has an IP address |
| 13:22 |
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eythian |
69.64.90.112, specifically |
| 13:24 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
the ipconfig output and the library.koyauniversity.org are the same |
| 13:24 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
ifconfig* |
| 13:24 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
where did you get that its not that |
| 13:25 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
oh God |
| 13:25 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
let me make it clear |
| 13:25 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
that domain was hosted on another server |
| 13:25 |
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eythian |
$ host libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org |
| 13:25 |
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eythian |
libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org is an alias for koyauniversity.org. |
| 13:25 |
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eythian |
koyauniversity.org has address 69.64.90.112 |
| 13:25 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, eythian. |
| 13:25 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
which is the ip you got |
| 13:25 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
but now its on a new server with a new ip address |
| 13:26 |
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eythian |
If you've changed it within the past 4 hours or so, I could be seeing an old version |
| 13:26 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
maybe |
| 13:26 |
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mtompset |
I see the same as you, eythian. |
| 13:27 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
but if it changed why it get directed to our site right? |
| 13:27 |
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eythian |
I actually get: Site under maintenance |
| 13:27 |
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eythian |
Koya University's new web site is currently under construction. Thank you for your patience. |
| 13:27 |
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eythian |
maybe your internal DNS is doing something different |
| 13:27 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yes thats it |
| 13:28 |
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eythian |
OK, fwiw that's not a redirect, that's apache serving it up under that name. |
| 13:28 |
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eythian |
minor difference, but maybe useful when debugging |
| 13:28 |
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mtompset |
I got a parallels page. |
| 13:29 |
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mtompset |
paste? |
| 13:29 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 13:29 |
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eythian |
germs? |
| 13:29 |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 13:29 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
wait please |
| 13:29 |
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pastebot |
"mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Part of what I see when I go to http://library.koyauniversity.org/" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/88 |
| 13:29 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i have an idea |
| 13:30 |
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eythian |
oh, I get something different from library and libraryadmin |
| 13:30 |
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eythian |
that is really quite odd |
| 13:31 |
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mtompset |
Yes, that is truly bizarre. |
| 13:31 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
damn odd -_- |
| 13:31 |
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eythian |
also terrifically insecure |
| 13:31 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hmmmm |
| 13:31 |
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mtompset |
Oh shoot.... www.koyauniversity.org is down. |
| 13:31 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i think i know why its like that |
| 13:32 |
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mtompset |
Same site under maintenance message. |
| 13:32 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
thats because ppl are working on it |
| 13:32 |
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mtompset |
(as libraryadmin) |
| 13:32 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
listen to me for a sec |
| 13:32 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i think the problem is the domain is hosted by 2 servers |
| 13:33 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
different servers |
| 13:33 |
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eythian |
ah, so you have a reverse proxy that's not set up right? |
| 13:33 |
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eythian |
(or similar) |
| 13:33 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
thats why one direct to somewhere and the other is directing to somewhere else |
| 13:33 |
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mtompset |
YAY! I guessed that already. ;) |
| 13:34 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
no no the domain was on another old server before they get it on this one |
| 13:34 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
but i think they didnt delete or disable it there |
| 13:34 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
thats why this shit is happning |
| 13:34 |
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mtompset |
Okay... so you were on domain X. Decided to jump domain providers. |
| 13:34 |
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eythian |
that'd make some sense |
| 13:35 |
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mtompset |
And now you are in the transitional mess? |
| 13:35 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yup |
| 13:35 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
idk |
| 13:35 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
really |
| 13:35 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
just let me check that idea |
| 13:35 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
libraryadmin.thenewip.org |
| 13:35 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
that might work |
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| 13:36 |
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jcamins |
You can't use subdomains with IP addresses. |
| 13:36 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
cuz the new ip directs to another place not the maintenance page |
| 13:36 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
-_- |
| 13:37 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
then what should i do |
| 13:37 |
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eythian |
edit the hosts file on your local machine? |
| 13:37 |
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eythian |
if you do that, just remember you did, or you'll get really confused why things behave differently on your machine vs. another one. |
| 13:37 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yes yes |
| 13:38 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
thats why i dont want to do that :/ |
| 13:38 |
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mtompset |
And this has become a networking/apache problem far beyond the typical scope of Koha. |
| 13:39 |
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mtompset |
out of curiousity... how many files were in the sites-enabled directory? |
| 13:39 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yes sorry guys appreciate it |
| 13:39 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
aha |
| 13:40 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
3 :/ should be 2 or 1 right |
| 13:40 |
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mtompset |
what are their names? |
| 13:40 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
the 000-default and library and another one |
| 13:41 |
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mtompset |
I don't know about everyone else here, but I tend to edit the 000-default to be port 4080, and then add a listen 4080 to the ports.conf |
| 13:42 |
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mtompset |
of course... if this hosts the university's pages, that's probably a bad idead. |
| 13:42 |
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mtompset |
idea. |
| 13:43 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hey the koyauniversity.org get the maintenance page while the new server ip which detected to it get another page |
| 13:43 |
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drojf |
mib_sdkm9v: 000-default is the apache test page. you can turn that off with 'sudo a2dissite default'. unless you changed that page and it does something useful of course |
| 13:44 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
the koyauniversity.org is still one the 69 ip which should have changed to the new ip |
| 13:44 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
thats not a problem |
| 13:45 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hey eythhian take a look at what i said and tell me if you have an idea |
| 13:45 |
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eythian |
well, it sounds a lot like 000-default is taking over |
| 13:46 |
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eythian |
are you able to disable that without it affecting anything else? |
| 13:46 |
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eythian |
(as drojf said really) |
| 13:47 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
well i can enable it after that right? |
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mib_sdkm9v |
if anything got wrong |
| 13:47 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
or if it didnt change anything' |
| 13:48 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 13:48 |
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eythian |
just a2dissite default. To turn it back on, you can recreate the symlink |
| 13:48 |
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eythian |
(a2ensite will probably give it a different name, hence not doing that) |
| 13:50 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
it didnt change anything |
| 13:50 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
tell me how to re do what i did |
| 13:51 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
undo* |
| 13:51 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
-_- |
| 13:51 |
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eythian |
sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/default //etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default |
| 13:51 |
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eythian |
no wait |
| 13:51 |
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eythian |
sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/default //etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 13:51 |
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eythian |
that one |
| 13:51 |
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eythian |
err |
| 13:51 |
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eythian |
sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/default /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 13:51 |
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eythian |
THAT one |
| 13:52 |
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eythian |
did you restart apache after you did the dissite? |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yup |
| 13:53 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
man lets do this one more time |
| 13:53 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
when you type host koyauniversity.org |
| 13:53 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
it get you an ip address |
| 13:54 |
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eythian |
69.64.90.112 |
| 13:54 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
that ip address is the old servers ip address |
| 13:54 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
the new one is different so whats wrong |
| 13:54 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
? |
| 13:54 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
thats koyauniversit.org old server ip address |
| 13:55 |
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eythian |
your name server is at 64.150.179.21 and is still reporting the old address |
| 13:55 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
nah those are all the old servers things |
| 13:55 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
you get me |
| 13:56 |
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eythian |
dig +trace koyauniversity.org should get the absolute latest one I think |
| 13:56 |
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eythian |
and it's still saying the old one |
| 13:56 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
yes exactly |
| 13:56 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
so i say why>? |
| 13:57 |
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eythian |
Sounds like the changes haven't been committed on the DNS server |
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mib_sdkm9v |
or they are handled from 2 different servers and DNS s |
| 13:58 |
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mtompset |
Low can we go would have been better. ;) |
| 13:58 |
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drojf |
if i export marc biblio frameworks from the staff client in sql and import that sql into a fresh koha db, i don't see the new framework in the new staff client. what am i missing? |
| 13:58 |
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eythian |
mib_sdkm9v: also possible, yeah |
| 13:59 |
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eythian |
if one is out of sync, crazy things happen |
| 13:59 |
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mib_sdkm9v |
hum that could be it |
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mib_sdkm9v |
i will tell koyauni to disable the old servers things and i will tell him that his site is still handled by the old server |
| 14:01 |
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gaetan_B |
drojf: are you importing it directly in mysql or through the staff client ? |
| 14:01 |
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gaetan_B |
i've had problems importing through the staff client before |
| 14:02 |
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drojf |
directly in mysql |
| 14:02 |
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gaetan_B |
if a foreign key constraint fails, then the import fails silently |
| 14:02 |
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gaetan_B |
oh, can't help you i'm afraid then... :( |
| 14:03 |
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drojf |
thanks for trying though :) |
| 14:03 |
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eythian |
drojf: might be worth trying the non-SQL methods? |
| 14:03 |
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eythian |
the framework stuff is confusing to me |
| 14:04 |
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drojf |
eythian: yes we will have to do it that way. i think we have to manually create each framework and then load the csv or whatever out we have, i tried to avoid that. still way faster than clicking all the frameworks anew |
| 14:05 |
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drojf |
s/out/output/ |
| 14:05 |
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eythian |
the only time I've really had it work is when loading all the frameworks from one site into another one |
| 14:05 |
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eythian |
I think otherwise some sequences get upset or something |
| 14:06 |
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drojf |
yes i would have a look at the whole dump but i would need to get rid of the biblio data first. no fun scrolling through a 1,4gb file |
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mib_fpxghe |
. |
| 14:08 |
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drojf |
… |
| 14:10 |
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mtompset |
I blame auto-increment fields. ;) |
| 14:22 |
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drojf |
hm yes it might need a "drop table" and add all custom frameworks at once. "export all frameworks to one sql file" would be a nice option for that |
| 14:23 |
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drojf |
but that might lead to people complaining about losing all other frameworks after import ;) |
| 14:26 |
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mtompset |
BAH! Let them enter them again. We know how fun that is. ;) |
| 14:26 |
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drojf |
heh |
| 14:31 |
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drojf |
so it's gbsd for some people already? where's the music, the drinks, the people? |
| 14:33 |
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eythian |
ooh. awkward. No one invided drojf. |
| 14:33 |
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eythian |
*invited |
| 14:34 |
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drojf |
i may just sit quietly in the corner and do a frustration signoff later |
| 14:35 |
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eythian |
Try not to eat _all_ the ice cream ;) |
| 14:35 |
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kf |
drojf: technically it's not arrvied in germany yet :) |
| 14:36 |
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drojf |
i know, it seems to have not arrived in #koha too |
| 14:38 |
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mtompset |
Technically, it isn't for another 1.5hours for me. |
| 14:38 |
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mtompset |
I've never done a sign off before. |
| 14:39 |
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mtompset |
I much prefer finding and providing patches. |
| 14:39 |
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mtompset |
You need to work to your strengths. :) |
| 14:39 |
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drojf |
i'd like to start to avoid doing stuff that i should actually be doing |
| 14:40 |
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wizzyrea |
lol you guys are funny |
| 14:40 |
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drojf |
you should try signoffing too. it does not work if everybody adds patches and nobody does the testing |
| 14:41 |
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mtompset |
That would mean I'd have to know how to test. |
| 14:41 |
|
* wizzyrea |
has done many signoffs in her day |
| 14:41 |
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wizzyrea |
i've been frustrated lately by failing tests. |
| 14:41 |
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mtompset |
I still haven't mastered the data model. |
| 14:41 |
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mtompset |
Let alone the interface. |
| 14:42 |
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drojf |
it's a way to get around all things koha. you go to places you have never been before ;) |
| 14:42 |
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mtompset |
Is there a list of bugs somewhere? |
| 14:42 |
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mtompset |
bugs? |
| 14:42 |
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wahanui |
bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. |
| 14:42 |
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drojf |
but yes, it takes quite some time, even for th easy stuff that i was able to signoff on |
| 14:42 |
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drojf |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]doesn%27t%20apply |
| 14:42 |
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drojf |
this is labelled "patches for gbsd" in the wiki |
| 14:44 |
|
* drojf |
claims bug 8185 |
| 14:44 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Needs Signoff , Plugin for linking records in MARC21 |
| 14:44 |
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drojf |
i tested that one before |
| 14:44 |
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drojf |
and we could use it |
| 14:45 |
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drojf |
i think there used to be an etherpad or something to put it what you work on, so people don't work on the same stuff. at least we had that at the hackfest, no idea who provided that |
| 14:45 |
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drojf |
s/put it/put in/ |
| 14:47 |
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eythian |
I can make you an etherpad if you want it |
| 14:48 |
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drojf |
would be cool! |
| 14:50 |
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drojf |
mtompset: there is this really cool and easy to test bug 8377 if you want to try a signoff later ;) |
| 14:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Show HTML5 video/ audio for media files in OPAC and staff client |
| 14:50 |
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kf |
drojf++ |
| 14:51 |
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mtompset |
ha ha ha.... |
| 14:51 |
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drojf |
for spamming my patch? cool, i'll do that more often ;) |
| 14:51 |
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eythian |
https://etherpad.catalyst.net.nz/hzCeJFExU3 <-- drojf and everyone |
| 14:51 |
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kf |
no, for bringing gbsd to germany :) |
| 14:52 |
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kf |
mtompset: drojf is right - all developers should do their part in testing, it's much needed and you learn a lot about how Koha works |
| 14:52 |
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drojf |
woops, i got 37 windows trying to give me a cookie for the etherpad |
| 14:52 |
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kf |
plus others will be more likely to sign off on your patches :) |
| 14:52 |
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eythian |
drojf: I don't know how that would work |
| 14:53 |
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mtompset |
Well, I'll try to do one... but no guarantees. I don't make promises I can't keep. |
| 14:53 |
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kf |
eythian: could you put the link in the wiki maybe? |
| 14:53 |
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kf |
on the page for today's gbsd? |
| 14:53 |
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kf |
gbsd? |
| 14:53 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... gbsd is Global Bug Squashing Day |
| 14:53 |
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kf |
next gbsd? |
| 14:53 |
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wahanui |
i guess next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 14:53 |
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drojf |
set firefox from "no cookies" to "ask" when it does not work without the cooky, get a lot of windows that ask instantly ;) |
| 14:53 |
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eythian |
ah right, it probably fired off a bunch of ajax requests and you got a popup for each one |
| 14:54 |
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eythian |
what's the wiki page? |
| 14:55 |
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drojf |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 14:57 |
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eythian |
cool, yeah add it there if you like |
| 14:57 |
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drojf |
i will in a minute |
| 14:57 |
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drojf |
thanks for setting it up |
| 15:01 |
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drojf |
done |
| 15:13 |
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nengard |
anyone know where we are with bug 6413 ? |
| 15:13 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6413 major, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Failed QA , Notes in Fines doing wonky things |
| 15:15 |
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wizzyrea |
looks like it failed qa for varying things |
| 15:17 |
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wizzyrea |
dunno, we should try it again I think |
| 15:18 |
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wizzyrea |
doesn't apply :( |
| 15:18 |
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nengard |
yeah - added a note to get a new patch maybe |
| 15:18 |
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nengard |
i would love to see this finally fixed in 3.10 at least |
| 15:19 |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
| 15:19 |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
| 15:22 |
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wizzyrea |
I think facebook has changed the way I want to use most things. |
| 15:22 |
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wizzyrea |
and google +1 |
| 15:22 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm looking at a bug, and I don't want to add a comment "yes, what he said" |
| 15:22 |
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wizzyrea |
I just want to +1 or like it |
| 15:22 |
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wizzyrea |
to say I agree. |
| 15:22 |
|
* wizzyrea |
is impossibly lazy. |
| 15:22 |
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drojf |
write a patch for bugzilla ;) |
| 15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 15:23 |
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drojf |
i would not be suprprised to see that available in some form. you can have plugins in bugzilla, right? |
| 15:24 |
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wizzyrea |
hm yes |
| 15:24 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: it's sorta how gerrit works I think |
| 15:24 |
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eythian |
well, a bit different |
| 15:24 |
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eythian |
launchpad has a "this affects me" button |
| 15:24 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, I like that too |
| 15:25 |
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wizzyrea |
slightly different context but also a better metric for judging severity |
| 15:25 |
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wizzyrea |
if lots say "yes I have this problem too" it's easy to know what to fix |
| 15:25 |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: have you ever seen a package build not run the makefile? |
| 15:26 |
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eythian |
it went straight into running the rest of the rules, which obviously failed. |
| 15:37 |
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jcamins |
eythian: never. |
| 15:37 |
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eythian |
damn. Me neither until today. |
| 15:38 |
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eythian |
Hmm |
| 15:38 |
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eythian |
I wonder if because I was working on the code in one timezone, moving stuff over with git, and attempting the build there that something was getting out of sync timestamp-wise |
| 15:38 |
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jcamins |
Maybe. |
| 15:39 |
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jcamins |
Pretty weird, though. |
| 15:39 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 16:00 |
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mtompset |
It looks like I'll be focusing on a couple of my own bugs for a bit. |
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| 16:16 |
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jcamins |
eythian: stop trying to be sensible and doing things correctly. |
| 16:16 |
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eythian |
it's a curse, I know |
| 16:18 |
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drojf |
there goes my signoff :/ |
| 16:19 |
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eythian |
running builds on my fairly hefty laptop is still a lot slower than my 2.5 year old ddesktop machine. |
| 16:20 |
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* jcamins |
is counting on a new server being much much faster than his laptop. |
| 16:20 |
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eythian |
my laptop is an i7 with a hybrid HD, it should be speedy. |
| 16:21 |
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jcamins |
Mine is a Core2duo or whatever it's called, with an ordinary hard drive. I never thought it was going to be particularly speedy. |
| 16:22 |
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eythian |
so 00-valid-xml.t doesn't tell you where an error is when it fails :/ |
| 16:22 |
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eythian |
> Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output |
| 16:22 |
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eythian |
not helpful |
| 16:23 |
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jcamins |
No, not at all. |
| 16:23 |
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jcamins |
Well, it must be whatever file was changed last? |
| 16:23 |
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eythian |
no, it was some stray data I had lying around |
| 16:23 |
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eythian |
but it didn't tell me that |
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mtompset |
12:28... and it is sitting at 85. http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl |
| 16:31 |
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cait |
that's not too bad |
| 16:31 |
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cait |
maybe we can go 70? :) |
| 16:31 |
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* cait |
likes reaching for the starts |
| 16:31 |
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cait |
stars |
| 16:36 |
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mtompset |
No, no... Dancing with the Stars. ;) |
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| 16:40 |
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mtompset |
Oh shoot... |
| 16:41 |
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mtompset |
it should say "bug ####:"? |
| 16:41 |
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mtompset |
my git commits have been "bug #### - " |
| 16:41 |
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jcamins |
It doesn't matter. |
| 16:41 |
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jcamins |
As long as it is "Bug ####" it'll get into the release notes. |
| 16:41 |
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mtompset |
Well, it says to avoid [bug ####] |
| 16:41 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 16:42 |
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jcamins |
No brackets. |
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mtompset |
workflow? |
| 16:42 |
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mtompset |
work flow? |
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mtompset |
workflow is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
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jcamins |
Usually one word, but it doesn't matter. |
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mtompset |
wahanui: workflow is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, mtompset. |
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mtompset |
workflow? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it workflow is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
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mtompset |
work flow is workflow spelled less correctly. |
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mtompset |
work flow? |
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wahanui |
work flow is workflow spelled less correctly. |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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mtompset |
guidelines? |
| 16:46 |
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mtompset |
coding guidelines? |
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wahanui |
coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
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mtompset |
formatting guidelines? |
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mtompset |
format guidelines? |
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mtompset |
document guidelines? |
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* mtompset |
grumbles, "ARG! Programming bug somewhere. Can't work on Koha. :(" |
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* mtompset |
waves. |
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mtompset |
Bye, #koha. |
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jcamins |
fcapovilla++ # for bug 8610 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8610 normal, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Normalize records imported from Z39.50 servers to prevent Zebra search problems. |
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drojf |
i should have a virtual machine running all my virtual machines, it's getting confusing |
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maximep |
fcapovilla is a machine :p |
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maximep |
I can't keep up with him :p |
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drojf |
hrm. why would i have only the "set flags" button, but no actual flags to set when i want to set permissions for a user? |
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jcamins |
You can only set permissions that your user has. |
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drojf |
ah you mean my user that tries to set the permissions lacks the permissions so he cannot set them for the other user? |
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drojf |
but its the default user, shouldn't that be superlibrarian? |
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jcamins |
You mean database user? |
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drojf |
yes |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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drojf |
heh. that's odd. never used this vm, made it in edinburgh. i guess i made something funny when changing paths from package to git |
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eythian |
so the report date picker is only in 3.8? |
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eythian |
(and above) |
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eythian |
Query OK, 1708404 rows affected (4 min 42.31 sec) |
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eythian |
not as bad as I expected |
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rangi |
well, after 2 weeks of being the only one not to get the flu on level 7, or at home, ive sucumbed |
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eythian |
urg |
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rangi |
yeah, its a nasty one |
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eythian |
If you feel like SQL will help, I can't get a query to run in a reasonable time :) |
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rangi |
i suspect i got some strain of it from the ED, the vaccine had been protecting me up to there |
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eythian |
ED? |
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rangi |
atarau had a febrile seizure, caused by the flu, so we ended up at ED on wednesday |
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rangi |
ill just write my whereis |
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rangi |
and then ill take a look at the sql |
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jcamins |
I'm sure he's fine, but how are his parents doing? :) |
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eythian |
ah, no fun |
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eythian |
annoyingly, if I break it down into parts it's fast enough, it's when it's all together that it's not |
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rangi |
explain doesnt tell you anything useful? |
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jcamins |
eythian: are you doing a select over biblioitems? |
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eythian |
http://paste.koha-community.org/81 <-- jcamins |
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eythian |
the subqueries seem fast enough (I put indices in to help), it's the two joins |
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jcamins |
If you remove the items join temporarily, does it run quickly? |
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eythian |
yep |
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jcamins |
What does explain say? |
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eythian |
everything except aqorders is using a key |
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eythian |
(that's the case even when it's fast though) |
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jcamins |
What order is it selecting in? |
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eythian |
aqorders, biblio, items, then the two subqueries |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... |
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rangi |
http://us2.campaign-archive1.c[…]085&id=80ce9994ad <-- who saw this coming |
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* jcamins |
is shocked, surely. |
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drojf |
damn fascists |
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jcamins |
Wasn't there supposed to be some new, more-open micropayments handler? |
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drojf |
we need one, that's for sure |
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rangi |
ok, apparently i have to play cars |
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rangi |
bbiab |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #130 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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* wizzyrea |
waves to the newcomers |
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* kathryn |
waves back |
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* cait |
waves too |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #130: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/130/ |
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jenkins_koha |
fridolyn.somers: Bug 8440: Dates does not appear in suggestions management |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8440 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , Dates does not appear in suggestions management |
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dcook |
Allo #koha |
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dcook |
Does anyone know what happens if you already have a systempreference in your DB but updatedatabase.pl tries to insert it anyways? |
