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dcook |
Allo #koha |
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dcook |
Does anyone know if BSort1 is actually connected in any way to anything? |
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* dcook |
takes back his question |
01:05 |
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dcook |
Since Sort 1 and Sort 2 show as empty text fields when there is nothing defined in the BSort1 or BSort2 fields, I never realized that they were actually connected! |
01:06 |
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dcook |
And that drop-downs would be created if BSort1 and BSort2 were actually defined! |
01:06 |
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dcook |
^_^ |
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NZICA |
Hi all :) |
02:19 |
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NZICA |
does anyone have 20 seconds to help with an SQL question? |
02:20 |
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rangi |
probably not many around this time of the day, its late at night or early in the morning for most people |
02:21 |
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NZICA |
Fair enough... didn't realise IRC users needed sleep >.> |
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rangi |
hi cait |
04:14 |
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cait |
hi rangi |
04:18 |
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* dcook |
waves to cait |
04:18 |
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cait |
hi dcook :) |
04:19 |
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dcook |
:) |
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cait |
mveron++ |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
hi marcelr :) |
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ala_3v0 |
I have this koha software error message when launching the staff interface from browser: |
06:53 |
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ala_3v0 |
Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 680. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/moremember.pl line 39. BEGIN failed--com |
06:53 |
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ala_3v0 |
that is part of it |
06:53 |
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ala_3v0 |
can anyone help |
06:56 |
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rangi |
Does the early part say something about can't open koha-conf.xml ? |
06:57 |
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rangi |
Chances are it's file permissions if so |
06:58 |
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rangi |
You can paste the whole of the error at paste.koha-community.org |
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rangi |
But now I have to out my children to bed |
06:59 |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
07:00 |
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ala_3v0 |
thanks rangi i'll try to paste it there |
07:01 |
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ala_3v0 |
what if I restore a backup sql file? |
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ala_3v0 |
http://mibpaste.com/lvFQLv |
07:06 |
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ala_3v0 |
The error message is on the link above |
07:13 |
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kf |
good morning #koha :) |
07:23 |
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mveron |
Hi kf |
07:23 |
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mveron |
:-) |
07:23 |
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kf |
hi mveron :) |
07:27 |
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07:27 |
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gaetan_B |
hello :) |
07:29 |
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rangi |
hi kf mveron and gaetan_B |
07:29 |
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mveron |
hi rangi |
07:29 |
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kf |
please programmers, don't be too clever when constructing sentences in your templates... *sigh* (directed to noone special) |
07:30 |
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rangi |
untranslatable strings? |
07:30 |
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kf |
no |
07:30 |
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rangi |
actually thats a good rule in general, don't try and be too clever |
07:30 |
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kf |
sentences puzzled together with if constructs |
07:30 |
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rangi |
be it in templates or in code |
07:31 |
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rangi |
readable code > clever code |
07:32 |
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* kf |
nods |
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* mveron |
nods as well |
07:36 |
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* mbalmer |
suppresses a comment about "readable" and "Perl"... |
07:37 |
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* kf |
suppresses a comment about how you can write unreadable bad code in every language... |
07:42 |
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* mbalmer |
points at http://www.ioccc.org/ |
07:45 |
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* mveron |
will file a bug to have better translatable text in: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools |
07:48 |
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kf |
mveron++ |
07:49 |
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mveron |
And the file name: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/picture-upload.tt |
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rangi |
hmm thats not a very helpful answer |
08:02 |
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rangi |
https://github.com/ssp/pazpar2[…]uecomment-7518531 |
08:03 |
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* rangi |
decides not to use code when the author doesnt know what license he has put it under |
08:04 |
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kf |
probably safer |
08:04 |
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mveron |
Bug 8573 - not sure to which component it should belong |
08:04 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, veron, NEW , Translation difficult in picture-upload.tt due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction |
08:05 |
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kf |
hm you could put it in i18n or templates |
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mveron |
kf: Ok switched it to templates |
08:06 |
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kf |
translate.koha... would be more used for a problem with pootle I think :) |
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08:38 |
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rangi |
hi eythian |
08:38 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
08:38 |
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eythian |
hiya |
08:42 |
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rangi |
wow mail from may! |
08:43 |
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rangi |
must have been stuck in a mail queue somewhere |
08:56 |
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kf |
hi eythian :) |
08:56 |
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* kf |
is counting days... :P |
08:56 |
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eythian |
hello |
08:56 |
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eythian |
heh |
08:57 |
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mveron |
Hi eythian :-) |
08:58 |
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mveron |
kf: Patch for Bug 8573 would need a critical eye... |
08:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Translation difficult in picture-upload.tt due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #124: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/124/ |
09:41 |
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jenkins_koha |
robin: Bug 8547 - JS error in star ratings breaks IE |
09:41 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8547 major, P2, ---, robin, Passed QA , Enabling star ratings causes javascript errors that cause IE to have a boo boo |
09:58 |
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hdl |
!later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today |
09:59 |
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hdl |
@later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today |
09:59 |
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huginn |
hdl: The operation succeeded. |
10:00 |
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kf |
hdl: have you seen the request for an arabic list? |
10:10 |
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eythian |
mveron: that's for that signoff on the stars things - it's a hard bug to reproduce sometimes. |
10:16 |
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eythian |
mveron: *thanks* for that... |
10:16 |
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eythian |
too early in the afternoon... |
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10:31 |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
10:32 |
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rangi |
hi drojf |
10:33 |
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drojf |
hey rangi |
10:34 |
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* gaetan_B |
is again looking for a high res version of the koha logo... |
10:39 |
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gaetan_B |
don't we have a more recent and better version than this one ? : http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ack-and-white.jpg |
10:41 |
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gaetan_B |
i thought the tagline was more like 'open-source integrated library system' |
10:41 |
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rangi |
we have both |
10:42 |
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rangi |
and thats only one of the logos |
10:42 |
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drojf |
from june 17: |
10:42 |
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drojf |
(11:50:02) mbalmer: I was asking slef about the availability of a vectorized Koha logo. |
10:42 |
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drojf |
(11:50:23) slef: We will have one used on our banners and will publish it as soon as we've paid the designer. |
10:42 |
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drojf |
(11:50:53) slef: I think there may be an earlier one around, used on Calyx's banner, but I need to email Irma to ask. |
10:44 |
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gaetan_B |
rangi: hmmm, where are ther other ones ? |
10:44 |
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rangi |
i dont know |
10:44 |
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gaetan_B |
oh ok :D |
10:44 |
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rangi |
youd have to ask the people who hijacked the domain |
10:44 |
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gaetan_B |
i have to blame myself to some extent though |
10:45 |
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rangi |
because the were tifs on the old koha site |
10:45 |
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gaetan_B |
i did vectorize something a fex month back and i can't seem to find it again |
10:45 |
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gaetan_B |
*few |
10:46 |
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rangi |
ah ha! |
10:46 |
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rangi |
lucky im paranoid and backed that site up |
10:46 |
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rangi |
5 mins ill put a copy of them all up for you |
10:48 |
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gaetan_B |
:) |
10:50 |
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rangi |
theres even an old freehand file there |
10:52 |
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rangi |
hmm 1500 .. we have a contestant in this |
10:52 |
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* rangi |
watches |
10:58 |
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* drojf |
is waiting for high res colour pictures of martians |
11:02 |
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* kf |
waves |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
11:04 |
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gaetan_B |
thanks rangi, i'll use one of those to try and do a vectorized version |
11:04 |
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kf |
gaetan_B: perhaps mail slef and ask? he might have one available now :) |
11:05 |
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gaetan_B |
kf: that's a good point |
11:05 |
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gaetan_B |
hmmm kf what's his real name / email address ? |
11:06 |
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kf |
mj |
11:06 |
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mtompset |
irc regulars? |
11:06 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
11:06 |
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kf |
it seems I forgot his last name |
11:06 |
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kf |
gaetan_B: look for mj on the mailing list :) |
11:07 |
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kf |
mj ray :) |
11:08 |
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drojf |
hi kf :) |
11:08 |
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mtompset |
If you wanted to change the font of h1#libraryname, how would you do it? |
11:08 |
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drojf |
mtompset: jquery maybe? |
11:08 |
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kf |
css? |
11:08 |
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wahanui |
well, css is probably easier |
11:08 |
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drojf |
probably ;) |
11:09 |
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mtompset |
Yes, I figured CSS. |
11:09 |
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kf |
but you know, fonts are not so easy |
11:09 |
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mtompset |
But for the life of me, I am dumbfounded. |
11:09 |
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kf |
you know that the font must be available on the computer viewing it? |
11:09 |
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mtompset |
The font on our webpage has reverted to the default, despite no CSS changes. |
11:09 |
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kf |
I think there are newer tricks around now, but haven't used one of those |
11:09 |
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kf |
which font did you use? |
11:10 |
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kf |
and did it really revert? are you looking at it from the same computer? |
11:10 |
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mtompset |
BlackJarRegular... it's not a normal font that is installed everywhere. |
11:10 |
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kf |
see... |
11:10 |
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mtompset |
Yes, it reverted. |
11:10 |
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kf |
you have it installed? did you install a newer version of your browser or changed the settings? |
11:11 |
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mtompset |
It works for my coworker. |
11:11 |
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kf |
ah |
11:11 |
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kf |
see |
11:11 |
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kf |
local |
11:11 |
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mtompset |
It stopped working for me. |
11:11 |
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kf |
I would say, font or browser settings |
11:11 |
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mtompset |
My co-worker is several hundred miles away. |
11:11 |
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mtompset |
He's never gone to the site before. |
11:11 |
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mtompset |
It stopped working for the users too. |
11:14 |
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mtompset |
Annoyingly, it's like the browser is loading the remote font, and then still decides to use default. |
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mtompset |
And it's not a browser thing, because I tried under IE and Firefox, and cleared both caches. |
11:14 |
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chinu |
hello |
11:14 |
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wahanui |
what's up, chinu |
11:14 |
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kf |
I think if you want to use a special font, it's probably easier to use a picture instead |
11:14 |
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kf |
safer |
11:14 |
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chinu |
i need answer for a Q |
11:15 |
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chinu |
have u used opac search |
11:15 |
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chinu |
? |
11:15 |
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chinu |
opac search? |
11:15 |
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wahanui |
i guess opac search is good working for english biblios. i think only problem for mongolian. when i search mongolian than wrong results. |
11:16 |
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chinu |
how it serches? |
11:16 |
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kf |
chinu: what is your problem? |
11:16 |
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chinu |
u know about deatil? |
11:16 |
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kf |
wahanui: forget opac search? |
11:16 |
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wahanui |
kf: I forgot opac search |
11:16 |
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kf |
chinu: sorry, I can't help you if you don't have a more specific quesion |
11:17 |
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kf |
can you describe your problem? |
11:18 |
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eythian |
https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/st[…]32352317603713024 <-- drojf |
11:18 |
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chinu |
while searching which data it matches with query |
11:18 |
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chinu |
? |
11:19 |
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kf |
eythian: you are mean, now I will have nightmares again |
11:19 |
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kf |
chinu: I am sorry, I don't understand. where are you from? |
11:19 |
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drojf |
eythian: lol excellent |
11:21 |
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chinu |
about opac-search u know? |
11:22 |
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drojf |
chinu: please try to explain a) what you are trying to do b) what is not working for you |
11:24 |
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chinu |
I want learn the perl program who searches for given query |
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chinu |
I am from computer science |
11:25 |
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eythian |
chinu: then you start with opac-search.pl and trace through it until you get to Search.pm |
11:25 |
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eythian |
(then you stop because you've started drinking) |
11:26 |
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drojf |
and then you have enough |
11:26 |
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drojf |
heh |
11:26 |
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* mtompset |
laughs. |
11:26 |
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chinu |
??? |
11:26 |
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drojf |
you will understand once you looked at search.pm |
11:26 |
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chinu |
anybody from computer science? |
11:27 |
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eythian |
I have a masters degree in it... |
11:28 |
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kf |
... and you don't dare to go into Search.pm? |
11:28 |
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eythian |
Nope. |
11:28 |
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eythian |
I just protest that computer science is all about the theory, not the implementation. |
11:28 |
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eythian |
And then go to the pub. |
11:29 |
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BobB |
hdl? |
11:29 |
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wahanui |
hdl is probably saying, who when where, how. |
11:29 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
11:29 |
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eythian |
BobB: he's having lunch right now |
11:29 |
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BobB |
hi eythian, are you at Biblibre now? |
11:29 |
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eythian |
Oui. |
11:30 |
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BobB |
ah, bien |
11:30 |
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BobB |
@later tell HDL thanks! I have let Irma know. |
11:30 |
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huginn |
BobB: The operation succeeded. |
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11:31 |
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BobB |
eythian lunch must be good there. |
11:31 |
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BobB |
I like lunch. :) |
11:31 |
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eythian |
it is good here |
11:32 |
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eythian |
kf: in answer to the question: North Maharashtra University, Jalgaon, India |
11:32 |
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kf |
oh |
11:32 |
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kf |
thx |
11:32 |
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chinu |
how u get that I am from North Maharashtra university, Jalgaon, India? |
11:33 |
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eythian |
masters degree in computer science ;) |
11:33 |
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BobB |
LOL ! |
11:34 |
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chinu |
really tell me how? |
11:34 |
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chinu |
eythian? |
11:34 |
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wahanui |
eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
11:34 |
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chinu |
kf? |
11:34 |
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wahanui |
i heard kf was cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
11:34 |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/hkDD03yeLnU <-- sorta like this |
11:34 |
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BobB |
shut up wahanui |
11:35 |
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eythian |
wahanui: shut up wahanui is <reply>$who is making me cry! |
11:35 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
11:35 |
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BobB |
shut up wahanui |
11:35 |
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wahanui |
BobB is making me cry! |
11:36 |
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hdl |
wahanui: forget hdl |
11:36 |
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wahanui |
hdl: I forgot hdl |
11:36 |
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BobB |
hi hdl |
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* mveron |
back from lunch |
11:39 |
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kf |
chinu: ip address I assume |
11:39 |
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mveron |
eythian: Thanks for the thanks above, welcome :-) |
11:40 |
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eythian |
kf: yep |
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kf |
hi nengard |
11:43 |
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nengard |
hello |
11:45 |
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mbalmer |
hi nengard |
11:46 |
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mbalmer |
nengard, say, I am writing an article about Koha, may I use your group picture from edinbrugh as an illustration? (magazine for swiss librarians) |
11:46 |
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nengard |
Of course you can. |
11:50 |
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mbalmer |
ok, many thanks! |
11:54 |
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mtompset |
Oh that was an overt demonstration of no knowledge on CSI's part. |
11:59 |
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mtompset |
Okay, perhaps cross site font downloads is the problem... let's try .... |
12:03 |
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mtompset |
Okay... so why don't cross-site font downloads work? |
12:07 |
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eythian |
probably something to do with security |
12:08 |
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eythian |
that's usually the reason cross-site <noun/verb> doesn't work |
12:22 |
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mtompset |
Their fonts! How can fonts be a security risk? |
12:22 |
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mtompset |
Do they have some evil pre-display hook? |
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eythian |
I think it's to prevent *ahem* <airquotes>stealing</airquotes> of fonts from other sites. |
12:27 |
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eythian |
If you set the Access-Control-Allow-Origin header, you can specify who is allowed to use them |
12:27 |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
12:27 |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.0°C (2:25 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
12:34 |
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kf |
hi oleonard |
12:34 |
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kf |
:) |
12:34 |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.8°C (2:30 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
12:34 |
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kf |
hm. it's raining huginn |
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eythian |
I hope huginn is not heavy, getting hit would but unpleasant |
12:35 |
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kf |
? |
12:35 |
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eythian |
though, you'd think a raven would just fly. |
12:35 |
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eythian |
Well, you said it was raining huginn. |
12:35 |
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kf |
lol |
12:36 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, jcamins and oleonard . |
12:42 |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 23.0°C (8:00 PM PHT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
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mtompset |
Yep... that's about right. |
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mtompset |
It's a really loud rain. |
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kf |
hm rain in marseille, in Konstanz and in manila... who in #koha is to blame? :) |
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liw |
no rain in Manchester, UK |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.2°C (2:42 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
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oleonard |
Our rain was yesterday |
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eythian |
liw: I think maybe you're in the wrong UK |
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drojf |
it's sunny here actually |
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liw |
eythian, pfft, this is the right UK, it's that day of the month when it doesn't rain |
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eythian |
good old first-monday, eh. |
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* oleonard |
is more tired than he should be having not even stayed up late to watch a robot land on Mars |
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mtompset |
Greetings, tcohen |
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mtompset |
Greetings, ago43 |
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tcohen |
hi mtompset |
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mtompset |
I'd look at my bugs list, but if I do that... I won't stop coding. |
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oleonard |
Hm, so suspending a hold doesn't exclude it from showing up in the holds queue report? That seems like a pretty major failure. |
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oleonard |
Bug 8419 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8419 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue |
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nengard |
oleonard bug 8412 is updated per your suggestions |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , add color icon set |
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jcamins |
nengard: is one of your libraries planning on using that? I don't think I've ever encountered a library willing to put that kind of time into noting the colors of books. |
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nengard |
jcamins nope, but I did read an article in a law library magazine about a library that does that |
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nengard |
and it doesn't really hurt anything to have the option there |
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jcamins |
No, it certainly doesn't. |
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nengard |
it is more likely to be used in a special library - law specifically - I think |
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nengard |
cause it's easy to bulk edit a bunch of items cause you know what color each series is :) |
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jcamins |
I was just amazed that someone was going to go back and retroactively fill all that out. |
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nengard |
I would be amazed if anyone did! |
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nengard |
in any way other than bulk editing |
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oleonard |
jcamins: This from the guy who added an option to allow libraries to scan and upload book covers ;) |
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* mtompset |
grins. |
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mtompset |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
i guess jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
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mtompset |
That is going to haunt you for a long time, jcamins. :) |
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jcamins |
oleonard: there doesn't tend to be a lot of retrospective photography to do, if you're using that feature. |
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kf |
hm color bulk update feature using lists of scanned barcodes? :) |
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oleonard |
Now, just write an image-recognition bot to load OPAC results, average the color from book cover images, and set the color that way |
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kf |
but that's the cover color, not the spine color... |
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jcamins |
Or you have a digitization grant, I suppose. |
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jcamins |
However, I had forgotten how monotonous the colors of law books are... you have entire shelves that are all red or all green or the like. |
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eythian |
hey SQL people, why would these two queries give a different number of rows: http://paste.koha-community.org/73 and http://paste.koha-community.org/74 -- the only difference is the fields to select. |
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* mveron |
is about to sign-off Bug 5349 with 2 patches, but is stuck with the steps on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Moving an order |
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kf |
mveron: what is the problem? :) |
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mveron |
git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive What is this id? |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
if you do git log |
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jcamins |
eythian: I have no idea. |
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kf |
the unreadable part |
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eythian |
jcamins: one gives 56, the other 106 (on the db I'm testing) |
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eythian |
I consider 56 to be the correct answer. |
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kf |
may I ask what it is you are trying to do? |
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mveron |
kf: Ok, I see some IDs... Reading helps. Reaing unreadable parts helps as well :-) |
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kf |
mveron: I was trying to find an example for you :) |
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kf |
didn't know how to describe it better |
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kf |
eythian: why all the unions? |
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eythian |
kf: to include the deleteditems and deletedbiblios |
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kf |
hmm |
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kf |
eythian: don't know why different results :( |
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eythian |
hmm, the longer ones appear to include duplicates from somewhere... |
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jwagner |
eythian, I think you're confusing it by trying to include biblionumber inside the union. |
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eythian |
the catch is, the real query has a ton of fields and gives me even more rows |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
have you tried adding some parentheses? |
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eythian |
kf: no difference |
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kf |
yeah |
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kf |
I see the same in my database |
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kf |
using a different borrowernumer of course. |
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kf |
hmm. |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
you could try to compare the results for each union separately |
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kf |
see where the difference comes from |
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eythian |
well. |
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eythian |
> select itemnumber from items where itemnumber in (select itemnumber from deleteditems); |
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eythian |
30 rows in set (0.95 sec) |
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eythian |
that should not be the case. |
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kf |
uhoh |
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kf |
probably if you delete the last max itemnumber it gets reassigned? |
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eythian |
and 7 for the deletedbiblio |
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eythian |
no, the incrementer should always just increment |
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jcamins |
That doesn't sound good at all. |
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kf |
nope |
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kf |
thre goes my dream of undoing deletes in the near future... |
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mtompset |
Good day (24 hour period), #koha. MAybe tomorrow I'll get to work on Koha stuff. |
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mtompset |
That's why I don't really like autoincrementing fields myself, kf. |
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* mtompset |
waves bye. |
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kf |
eythian: share if you find out what's happening? I am curious what's wrong with that sql |
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eythian |
kf: nothing, I think |
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eythian |
I think it's that the data is weird. |
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eythian |
going to do more science on it though |
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kf |
eythian: I have the same here... an dmy data isn't weird :) |
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* kf |
believes in her data |
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* eythian |
heads to the station to book tickets. |
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tcohen |
hi #koha, is the cover image showing feature conditional to the existence of it? |
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tcohen |
i mena, we have a cover uploaded, will it still search for it in google (for example) |
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tcohen |
? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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oleonard |
If you have multiple image sources enabled Koha will try to show covers from each of them |
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tcohen |
oleonard, is that a bug or a feature? |
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tcohen |
http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/[…]ialogo+filosofico |
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oleonard |
I consider it a bug. Bug 7187 I think matches |
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kf1 |
hm |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next |
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* jcamins |
agrees. |
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jcamins |
Definitely bug. |
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tcohen |
oleonard, thanks for pointing it |
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* jcamins |
is looking forward to kmkale's fixing of said bug. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Do you know if kmkale has code in progress? |
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tcohen |
another question, would it be usefull to provide a daily circulation report on the circulation page? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I do not. |
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tcohen |
i provided one to my librarians, and they are really missing it |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Someone tried something similar in Bug 6828 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, barry, Failed QA , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users. |
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tcohen |
so i'd implement it anyway |
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tcohen |
(since we went live with 3.8 stock) |
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tcohen |
i'll look at those bugs |
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tcohen |
thanks |
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tcohen |
how would #koha propose to achieve that priority thing in bug 7187? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next |
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tcohen |
a | separated list of values? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: that'd be my preference. |
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tcohen |
a new <Service>Weight preference for each cover-provider? |
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jcamins |
I'd prefer the single list. |
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tcohen |
any other vote? |
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tcohen |
(i find it error-prone, but can't think of better solutions) |
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tcohen |
two prefs? one to choose a default and another to set it to traverse the activated services or just use the default? |
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jcamins |
That would work too. |
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tcohen |
is it ok to change the bug to origin/master ? |
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jcamins |
Yes, it should be versioned against master. |
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tcohen |
done |
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tcohen |
time to study that code :-D |
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oleonard |
I wonder if Google's TOS forbids caching book cover images |
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tcohen |
a web proxy is doing it for sure |
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tcohen |
Prohibitions on Content:... |
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tcohen |
Scrape, build databases or otherwise create permanent copies of such content, or keep cached copies longer than permitted by the cache header; |
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tcohen |
(Google TOS) |
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oleonard |
Yeah, I think it's the same for Amazon |
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tcohen |
do we have a place on the wiki to paste links to this relevant info? |
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oleonard |
Without caching you have to run through each of your cover image sources every time... very time-consuming. |
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tcohen |
oleonard, it depends |
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tcohen |
on your infrastructure |
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tcohen |
if you are on a university and have a transparent proxy... |
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oleonard |
I'm talking about out-of-the-box Koha |
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tcohen |
I agree |
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oleonard |
We should design it to be as efficient as we can all by itself |
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tcohen |
cd op |
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tcohen |
hehe, missed the terminal |
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gaetan_B |
do i need specific permissions to upload an image to the wiki ? |
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oleonard |
gaetan_B: I don't think so. Are you having trouble? |
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gaetan_B |
i'm trying to upload a cleaned up and vectorized logo on the wiki |
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gaetan_B |
i probably just can't find the right tool :-/ |
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oleonard |
gaetan_B: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Special:Upload |
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gaetan_B |
aaah tanks oleonard :) |
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gaetan_B |
s/tanks/thanks |
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oleonard |
gaetan_B: I see that link in the left-hand sidebar down towards the bottom |
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gaetan_B |
yes, somehow all these links had been pushed all the way to the bottom of the page when i clicked "edit" |
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gaetan_B |
now i see them :) |
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tcohen |
OPACAmazonCoverImages pref is not used in opac-detail.pl? |
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gaetan_B |
aah but you can't upload svg files it seems... too bad |
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oleonard |
Weird. Maybe it's a configuration thing which could be changed? |
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oleonard |
"Allow upload of SVG files in the LocalSettings.php file: $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg';" |
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oleonard |
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/[…]_upload_of_images |
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kf1 |
oleonard: I would think so |
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jcamins |
gaetan_B: could you please tell joubu to sign onto #koha? |
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jcamins |
I have a question for him about Moo. |
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gaetan_B |
jcamins: sorry he has already left ! |
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jcamins |
gaetan_B: ah well. |
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PRA |
How to upgrade koha 2.0.0 on redhat to koha 3.8 |
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oleonard |
That's a big question to have answered in under one minute! |
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drojf |
PRA is still here, PR left ;) |
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jcamins |
PRA: that's going to be a bit of a challenge. There's a document on the wiki, I think. |
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oleonard |
Aside from the platform issues, isn't the process 2 -> 3 -> 3.8 ? |
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jcamins |
Yes, I think so. |
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* oleonard |
wonders if this is up to date: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 |
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PRA |
ok. it's not possible. tell me how to export bibilo from koha 2.0 in *.mrc file? |
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jcamins |
No, it is possible. Just very difficult. |
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PRA |
Ok. How to export bibilo from KOHA 2.0 in marc forma? |
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* jcamins |
doesn't know, sorry. |
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drojf |
my guess is that is not possible |
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jcamins |
I started using Koha at 3.0.6/3.2. |
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rangi |
why im awake |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-North-Is-regions |
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rangi |
http://geonet.org.nz/images/vo[…]/wtvz/10/drum.png |
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PRA |
ok. thanks. |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
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jwagner |
rangi, where is Mt Tongariro -- is that one of the ones near Lake Taupo? |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
the three of them there, normally it is ruapehu erupting |
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jwagner |
I saw them when I was touristing. They said the last eruption was in the 90s sometime? That would have been Ruapehu? |
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rangi |
yep |
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gaetan_B |
bye #koha, see you tomorrow ! |
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rangi |
ngaruhoe smokes a lot, but hasnt erupted in ages |
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rangi |
tongariro they thought was dormant |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8W_sGYAQlc <-- thats ruapehu |
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liw |
rangi, you live in a country with exiting geology! |
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rangi |
yes, and i crazily have alerts on my phone which wake me up |
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* rangi |
switches them off and goes back to sleep |
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jwagner |
I'd say "let me sleep until the lava gets near my house" :-) |
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oleonard |
Crazy like a fox who doesn't want to get covered in lava |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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* wizzyrea |
startles at the early rangi sighting |
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oleonard |
Because volcano wizzyrea! |
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wizzyrea |
I know! |
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wizzyrea |
CRAZY |
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oleonard |
How could one do original cataloging if Koha couldn't connect to MySQL? |
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* oleonard |
reading the Koha mailing list |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I was wondering about that. |
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jcamins |
I am thinking maybe he was able to do it before. |
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jcamins |
(but couldn't if he tried now) |
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wizzyrea |
I'm rather surprised that he can do anything if he can't connect to mysql |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I think he couldn't do anything now. |
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jcamins |
I will respond once I finish what I'm working on. |
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wizzyrea |
you should let us peons answer that ;) |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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wizzyrea |
oh, guess the latest SIP doesn't work with Overdrive - really need to get that set up to allow the line endings to be defined in the conf :/ |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yes. That's why it's not going into 3.6.x. |
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wizzyrea |
silly. |
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* oleonard |
can confirm that, unfortunately |
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wizzyrea |
ez fix tho :) |
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Callender |
Has anyone seen a problem in 3.08 where when going into the Guided Report Wizard and creating a New Definition, Step 3 is a blank page? I notice that the "Current Terms" section doesn't display either on the dictionary screen |
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jcamins |
Callender: the guided report wizard doesn't work at all. |
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jcamins |
Don't use it. |
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jcamins |
We should probably remove it. |
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Callender |
ok |
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wizzyrea |
hm i'm not having a problem with that actually |
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wizzyrea |
step 3 on both guided reports *and* the dictionary works for me |
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wizzyrea |
s/works/work |
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Callender |
I get nothing over here. I wonder if it's something with the DB when it's trying to grab those columns |
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wizzyrea |
what exact steps are you following? |
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wizzyrea |
the first question? |
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wahanui |
"What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
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wizzyrea |
the second question? |
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wahanui |
the second question is "What is the exact error message?" |
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wizzyrea |
the third question? |
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wahanui |
the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ |
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wizzyrea |
also, which version of 3.8? |
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Callender |
This one is, 3.08.00.001 |
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wizzyrea |
ah, i'm looking at master |
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wizzyrea |
is an upgrade possible? |
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jcamins |
Yeah, using 3.8.0 is probably not such a good idea. |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
that might be understatement ;) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: given that I feel doubtful about 3.8.3... yeah, it just might be. |
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wizzyrea |
3.8.3 is pretty solid though |
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Callender |
Go to reports > Guided report wizard > View Dictionary > and at that point, I don't see the columns that should be there. If I go into create a new definition, getting to step 3.. just a blank screen. |
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wizzyrea |
WFM :) |
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Callender |
lets hold off then for me, I'll upgrade this system |
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wizzyrea |
cool beans :) |
17:31 |
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Callender |
and I'll see if that takes care of it |
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wizzyrea |
it's really likely it'll be better |
17:31 |
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wizzyrea |
I kind of remember this bug |
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wizzyrea |
sorta |
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* wizzyrea |
has slept since then |
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Callender |
thanks guys.. and gals! :) |
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* wizzyrea |
salutes Callender "anytime!" |
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* tcohen |
is wondering how to acknowledge that his work on Koha is sponsored by UNC |
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jcamins |
Sponsored-by: University N... Cordoba. :) |
18:09 |
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jcamins |
I sent an e-mail to koha-devel about this. |
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tcohen |
in the patch comment? |
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cait |
jcamins: maybe put it in the coding guidelines as an option? |
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jcamins |
cait: I think I did. |
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jcamins |
tcohen: yup. |
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jcamins |
I'll check. |
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tcohen |
found it |
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jcamins |
I guess it's not in the coding guidelines. Adding now. |
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tcohen |
some time in the future, i'd need my bosses to see it as my contract says any work I do belongs to the University |
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tcohen |
'belongs' in the sense of meaning the university has commited some work to an open source project |
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tcohen |
not in the sense of IP and that stuff |
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tcohen |
is it clear what I mean jcamins? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: yeah, that's what Sponsored-by is for. |
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tcohen |
thanks! |
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jcamins |
I was just editing the coding guidelines. |
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jcamins |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]od_commit_message |
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tcohen |
great jcamins |
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tcohen |
the missing bit would be setting the commit message editor to insert that automagically |
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jcamins |
Yeah, if you only have the one client you could certainly do that. |
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jcamins |
Though- it would be a problem for signing off. |
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tcohen |
u r right |
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jcamins |
git config --global commit.template $HOME/.gitmessage.txt |
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jcamins |
git++ # git is totally awesome |
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jcamins |
tcohen: http://git-scm.com/book/ch7-1.html |
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* oleonard |
uses that trick to preface each commit with "And so it came to pass..." |
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wizzyrea |
LOL |
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wizzyrea |
our commit messages could be so much more epic |
18:23 |
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wizzyrea |
AND SO IT CAME TO PASS THAT "bug 1398 - blah blah blah EPIC WIN" |
18:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1398 normal, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED INVALID, Branch management not working with returns |
18:23 |
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jcamins |
lol |
18:30 |
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tcohen |
is it ok to require LIB ; import LIB |
18:30 |
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tcohen |
or is it better to use LIB ? |
18:31 |
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jcamins |
use LIB is generally better, I think. |
18:31 |
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tcohen |
i'm revisiting opac-detail.pl |
18:31 |
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tcohen |
and found both used |
18:32 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. I'm not surprised. |
18:32 |
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jcamins |
We prefer use. |
18:32 |
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jcamins |
Usually. |
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tcohen |
i think amazon and syndetics stuff should be loaded the same way bakertaylor stuff is |
18:32 |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
18:32 |
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tcohen |
which checks for the syspref prior to loading the libs |
18:33 |
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tcohen |
but... bakertaylor uses that require ; import |
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tcohen |
schema |
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* jcamins |
doesn't really know much about it. If your patch works, though, I'll sign off. :) |
18:34 |
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jcamins |
The cover code, though, is all javascript. |
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tcohen |
haha |
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jcamins |
So far as I know. |
18:34 |
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tcohen |
yes |
18:34 |
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tcohen |
but... needs those variables set from the .pl |
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tcohen |
i'll continue to study that code, and guess i'll ask oleonard for some help |
18:35 |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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wizzyrea |
@marc 500 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: General information for which a specialized 5XX note field has not been defined. (Repeatable) [a,3,5,6,8] |
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mbalmer |
@marc balmer |
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huginn |
mbalmer: unknown tag balmer |
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mbalmer |
heh ;) |
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mveron |
@wunder Basel |
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huginn |
mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 17.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder 66049 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.5°C (2:21 PM CDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
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wizzyrea |
! seriously? yesterday it was in the 80's |
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wizzyrea |
well, 25C ish |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 30.6°C (2:50 PM EDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
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mbalmer |
someone should change the topic to "Koha - The Weather Channel" |
19:28 |
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nengard |
is anyone around (oleonard maybe) who can explain what doc changes I need to make per bug 8392 |
19:28 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8392 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , Memberentry is not enforcing birthdate restrictions |
19:28 |
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nengard |
Do I need to say that the birthday limit is only checked if that field is mandatory? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
19:28 |
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nengard |
or recommend that the birthday be made required if you want Koha to enforce the age limit |
19:29 |
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nengard |
oops .. yes which? |
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oleonard |
It will only check the birthdate limit if the field is mandatory |
19:29 |
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nengard |
got it |
19:29 |
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nengard |
thanks! |
19:29 |
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cait |
oleonard: I don't like that much :( |
19:30 |
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cait |
but I know it was not you :) |
19:30 |
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oleonard |
cait: How would it handle empty birthdates if the field was not mandatory? |
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cait |
not check |
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cait |
so you coul give the birthdate for not adult patrons |
19:31 |
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cait |
but leave it empty for adult patrons |
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oleonard |
You'd have to create a new preference to define which categories of patrons should require age enforcement |
19:32 |
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nengard |
i'm with cait |
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nengard |
but understand why it was done this way |
19:32 |
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nengard |
and now the manual reflects that :) |
19:32 |
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cait |
oleonard: the problem is that I was told dates of birth are sensitive data - most of our libraries don't store it at all |
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nengard |
so you could just not store it and not use the upper or minimum age limites |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
but it would be nice to use it when needed :) |
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cait |
but it's really not a big deal, only a bit grumpy tonight |
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cait |
:) |
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jcamins |
cait++ # for fixing my unit test |
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cait |
lol - I only asked some stupid questions comparing to pieces of code :) |
19:43 |
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rangi |
Morning again |
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nengard |
good afternoon :) |
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jcamins |
You missed me flipping out about a unit test. |
19:44 |
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rangi |
Heh darn shall I read the logs? |
19:44 |
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nengard |
oh - jcamins - the training I just did was with an authorities fanatic she wanted so very many many more changes to authorities |
19:44 |
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jcamins |
No, mostly cait had to suffer. |
19:44 |
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nengard |
and I kept saying well we have an expert working on improving things |
19:44 |
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nengard |
:) |
19:45 |
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jcamins |
nengard: I'm not surprised. If you have a list I'd love to see it. |
19:45 |
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nengard |
i did report a bunch to calm her down |
19:45 |
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nengard |
mainly the lack of browse was a big deal |
19:45 |
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jcamins |
Ah, yeah, true browse is very problematic. |
19:45 |
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nengard |
the fact that you can't add an authority right from cataloging - you have to go out to authorities to create (unless you want Koha to create it for you based on what you type) |
19:45 |
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jcamins |
I didn't see that bug. |
19:45 |
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jcamins |
It's a duplicate. |
19:46 |
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jcamins |
I already implemented that. :P |
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nengard |
then the authority searching - the fact that united states -- encycopedia was getting too broad of results for her |
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nengard |
which did you do? the add authority in cataloging? |
19:46 |
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nengard |
bug #? |
19:46 |
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wahanui |
i think bug # is there |
19:47 |
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jcamins |
Bug 8208. |
19:47 |
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wahanui |
bug 8208 is, like, almost done |
19:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin |
19:47 |
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nengard |
hehe |
19:47 |
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nengard |
awesome! |
19:47 |
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nengard |
I'll email the director over there with that one |
19:47 |
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nengard |
of course they're not on master yet, but they'll be happy to see it |
19:48 |
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jcamins |
As for the search, that'll be helped by bug 8206. |
19:48 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC |
19:48 |
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jcamins |
Which actually impacts the staff client, too. |
19:48 |
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jcamins |
It adds consistent options, including access to heading-match, which is what she wants. |
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nengard |
email sent |
19:51 |
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nengard |
I told them that you were working hard and that new stuff was coming all of the time |
19:52 |
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jcamins |
They should take a look at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Improvements_RFC |
19:52 |
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nengard |
I also got another library complaining about Koha's cataloging interface - shocker! |
19:52 |
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jcamins |
nengard: no! |
19:52 |
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rangi |
Bug 7417 is a good one too |
19:52 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches |
19:52 |
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rangi |
I get that all the time |
19:53 |
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rangi |
What's this MARC crap? |
19:53 |
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jcamins |
rangi: that's the one with the unit tests that were receiving many creative expletives. |
19:53 |
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jcamins |
I switched to DBD::Mock. |
19:53 |
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jcamins |
And DBD::Mock said "oh yeah? Just you try!" |
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nengard |
rangi i think we found that one while i was there |
19:53 |
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jcamins |
It was an epic battle. |
19:54 |
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jcamins |
I was losing, until cait told me to add a history check. |
19:54 |
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rangi |
Hehe |
19:54 |
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rangi |
Oh my blog was good for something! |
19:54 |
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jcamins |
At which point I discovered that the call to C4::Context->preference('marcflavour') was retrieving marcxml. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, but I liked the old layout a lot better. |
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rangi |
I might switch back |
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jcamins |
Good. |
19:56 |
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jcamins |
You should. |
19:57 |
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rangi |
Hehe |
19:57 |
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rangi |
I like the photo of kahu though |
19:59 |
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jcamins |
Take out the Twitter updates a couple of the other sidebars? |
19:59 |
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cait |
I liked the really old one best |
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cait |
but the last one is way better than what you have now :) |
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* cait |
hides |
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rangi |
Hehe |
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rangi |
I'm not fragile, I can change it |
20:01 |
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oleonard |
Can/does Koha log what Koha user performs the transaction when checking something out? |
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rangi |
I'll switch when I get to work |
20:01 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I think so. Isn't that circ log? |
20:01 |
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rangi |
Hmm I thought so |
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oleonard |
I have IssueLog turned on, but when I check the modification log of a book which is checked out, I get nothing |
20:04 |
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jcamins |
Ummm... |
20:04 |
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rangi |
Hmm not modification log, it should be circ log |
20:05 |
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jcamins |
was there a bug about this recently? |
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jcamins |
I have a vague recollection. |
20:05 |
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rangi |
Changing numbers ... Not sure it was pushed tho |
20:05 |
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cait |
I know it does log it - ony not sure how to access from within koha |
20:06 |
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cait |
I used it to check which checkouts were done using the self check :) |
20:06 |
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rangi |
In the log viewer I think if you just view the circ log? |
20:07 |
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rangi |
The bug is it stores biblionumber not itemnumber |
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rangi |
Iirc |
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oleonard |
...so it can't show the checkout history because biblionumber doesn't get you anything |
20:08 |
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rangi |
Yep |
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rangi |
But u can find it in the log |
20:09 |
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rangi |
You might want to try the patch |
20:09 |
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oleonard |
Do you know the bug? |
20:09 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that the bug is that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way |
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* rangi |
always looks for a signoff angle |
20:10 |
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rangi |
Not off the top of my head |
20:10 |
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jcamins |
Bug 7241. |
20:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number |
20:10 |
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jcamins |
Found it. :) |
20:10 |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
you were faster :( |
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* oleonard |
had looked at that bug earlier, hoped fredericd was going to sign off since he seemed anxious for it to be pushed |
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* oleonard |
zips into his testing jacket |
20:13 |
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jcamins |
Ugh. |
20:13 |
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jcamins |
My tests no longer cover 100% of the files. |
20:14 |
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cait |
:) |
20:14 |
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jcamins |
Why is that? |
20:14 |
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rangi |
I think he is on vacation too |
20:14 |
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cait |
oleonard: does it have built in airbags? |
20:14 |
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jcamins |
Test coverage was at 100%. |
20:14 |
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jcamins |
Then I fiddled with things. |
20:14 |
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cait |
jcamins: scandalous - go and write more tests! |
20:14 |
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rangi |
Heh |
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rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). |
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rangi |
My stop brb |
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jcamins |
Oh, I see. |
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jcamins |
I inadvertantly mocked one of the subroutines. |
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wizzyrea |
you should apologize |
20:17 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
20:17 |
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wizzyrea |
you are going to hurt its feelings |
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* oleonard |
doesn't see anything new in action_logs |
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rangi |
back |
20:23 |
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jcamins |
Actually, no, I think the problem is that I misunderstood how Devel::Cover works. |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
g'night #koha ;-) |
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jcamins |
That was part of the problem. |
20:25 |
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oleonard |
Oh wait yes I do. I guess it is working |
20:25 |
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rangi |
night magnuse |
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jcamins |
ExtraordinaryBen: you should never log in as the database administrative user. |
20:26 |
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cait |
ExtraordinaryBen: you need to create real staff accounts - don't work with the root user |
20:27 |
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cait |
to do that, create a branch, a patron category with category staff and add a new patron - and then give it permissions from more in the toolbar |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]in-over-100-years <-- yuck |
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cait |
ExtraordinaryBen: :) |
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wizzyrea |
ewww |
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wizzyrea |
poor horses |
20:29 |
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rangi |
heh |
20:29 |
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rangi |
A few locals did drive to the Hirangi Marae in Turangi but most just stood and watched the spectacular show. |
20:29 |
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rangi |
"It's a volcano. If it goes. It will go. We'll all be vapourised. Ruapehu and Ngauruhoe have erupted regularly over the years. Now it is Tongariro's turn." |
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kathryn |
g'morning |
20:43 |
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jcamins |
http://screencast.com/t/Dz9fFKCfHIKa <-- this is what the coverage report should look like. |
20:44 |
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jcamins |
(no unit tests were run for code in C4::) |
20:44 |
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jcamins |
Good morning, kathryn. |
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kathryn |
:) |
20:44 |
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rangi |
jcamins: nice ;) |
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cait |
hi kathryn :) |
20:45 |
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kathryn |
hi cait :D |
20:45 |
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cait |
:) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #125 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
20:55 |
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jcamins |
Hey. |
20:55 |
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jcamins |
It seems to me that Net::ZOOM should have some unit tests. |
20:55 |
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* jcamins |
goes looking for them. |
20:55 |
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jcamins |
Or ZOOM. |
20:55 |
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jcamins |
Or whatever we use. |
20:57 |
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jcamins |
Well... |
20:57 |
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jcamins |
huh. |
20:57 |
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jcamins |
Was anyone else expecting the ZOOM test suite to pass? |
20:58 |
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rangi |
it fails on the connection to a test server, the test server is dead |
20:58 |
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rangi |
well thats what fialed for me last time |
20:58 |
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jcamins |
It's failing on scan. |
20:59 |
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jcamins |
Huh. |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: would I be correct in making a wild guess that 8181 is not a candidate for backporting to 3.8.x? |
21:08 |
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rangi |
lemme look |
21:08 |
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jcamins |
bug 8181 |
21:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version |
21:08 |
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cait |
night all |
21:09 |
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rangi |
im currently picking stuff out of the Passed QA queue, that are bug fixes, for 3.8.x (since nothing is going into master for 3 weeks) |
21:09 |
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gmcharlt |
asking mostly because one of its side-effects is fixing some breakage introduced by the patch for 2780 |
21:09 |
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cait |
bug 2780 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Capitalize strings consistently |
21:10 |
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rangi |
probably not, unless i got another sign off |
21:10 |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=8181#c12 |
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huginn |
Bug 8181: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version |
21:10 |
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rangi |
doesnt fill me full of confidence |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: yeah, that's what I thought |
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jcamins |
Is there any way in Perl to create an object that will automagically create any accessors it is called with, and return the same thing? |
21:15 |
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jcamins |
(no matter what the accessor) |
21:16 |
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rangi |
im sure there is, but my brain is not telling me how |
21:17 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, my brain decided that was too much thinking, so we moved on to plan b. |
21:20 |
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rangi |
jcamins: i cant get the patch for bug 8581 to apply on master |
21:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority display doesn't like GND records |
21:20 |
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rangi |
atal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/authorities-search-results.inc). |
21:20 |
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rangi |
Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. |
21:20 |
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rangi |
Cannot fall back to three-way merge |
21:21 |
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jcamins |
rangi: did you apply bug 3462 first? |
21:21 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Link see alsos in authorities |
21:21 |
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rangi |
ahh probably not |
21:22 |
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* rangi |
does |
21:23 |
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rangi |
ah yep that was it |
21:24 |
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rangi |
ohh easy peasy change |
21:25 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. There's more needed, but that was the first thing I noticed. |
21:33 |
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rangi |
signed off |
21:34 |
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jcamins |
Okay... |
21:35 |
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jcamins |
Putting multiple packages in one file screws up Test::MockModule. |
21:35 |
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* jcamins |
wasn't expecting that. |
21:36 |
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rangi |
why would we do that? |
21:36 |
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rangi |
running out of filehandles? :) |
21:38 |
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jcamins |
We wouldn't. |
21:38 |
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jcamins |
IndexData would. |
21:38 |
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rangi |
ahhh |
21:38 |
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rangi |
maybe filehandles cost more in denmark |
21:39 |
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mgeist |
Have a good evening all |
21:39 |
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rangi |
cya mgeist |
21:40 |
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jcamins |
Okay, got around that issue. |
21:41 |
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jcamins |
... for one brief, shining moment. |
21:42 |
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jcamins |
Wait. |
21:42 |
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jcamins |
I can do better than this. |
21:43 |
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jcamins |
How do you do a switch statement in Perl? |
21:44 |
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jcamins |
The non-deprecated, non-experimental way. |
21:44 |
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rangi |
i dont |
21:44 |
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jcamins |
Okay. |
21:44 |
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* jcamins |
continues writing his ifelse statement. |
21:44 |
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rangi |
but i think its given/when |
21:45 |
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rangi |
which was added in 5.10 |
21:45 |
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jcamins |
No, that's experimental. There's another syntax which is allowed. |
21:45 |
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rangi |
for |
21:45 |
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rangi |
http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsy[…]Switch-Statements |
21:46 |
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rangi |
The foreach is the non-experimental way to set a topicalizer. I |
21:46 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
21:48 |
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jcamins |
Bwahahaha!!!! |
21:48 |
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* jcamins |
figures out how to trick ZOOM into thinking it has Zebra. |
21:48 |
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rangi |
:) |
21:49 |
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jcamins |
Okay... this leaves one slight problem. How do I get the kohaclone directory from a test. |
21:49 |
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rangi |
hmm? |
21:49 |
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rangi |
config? |
21:49 |
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wahanui |
well, config is still wrong. |
21:51 |
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jcamins |
But that's presupposing that I have a koha-conf.xml. |
21:56 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #125: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/125/ |
21:56 |
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* jcamins |
learns about XS. |
21:56 |
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jenkins_koha |
robin: Bug 8391: prevent error when viewing circ history with bad dates |
21:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8391 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Cannot view reading record through staff client |
21:56 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #126 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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22:52 |
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martian523 |
i have a question about fines, it seems like it's not working |
22:52 |
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martian523 |
a book is overdue, but fine is not showing up |
22:53 |
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rangi |
what version of koha, and have you set up your rules? and have the cron job running, and have the fines mode set to calculate and charge? |
22:53 |
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martian523 |
version 3.8.1 |
22:53 |
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martian523 |
set up my rules, |
22:53 |
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martian523 |
not sure about cron job |
22:54 |
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martian523 |
btw, i'm not an IT person |
22:54 |
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rangi |
ah, how did you install? |
22:54 |
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rangi |
or how did your it person install, using the debian packages? or from the tarball? |
22:54 |
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martian523 |
yeah |
22:54 |
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martian523 |
debian |
22:54 |
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rangi |
from http://debian.koha-community.org/ ? |
22:55 |
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martian523 |
maybe |
22:55 |
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rangi |
you will need to know for sure, either way, your IT person needs to check the cron job for the fines is running |
22:55 |
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martian523 |
i just found out about the cron job for email notices since i haven't received any automatic email notices |
22:55 |
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rangi |
and you need to check in systempreferences |
22:55 |
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rangi |
to see what finesmode is set to |
22:56 |
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martian523 |
we're still in the testing process |
22:56 |
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rangi |
ah well they wont be charging unless you set them to :) |
22:56 |
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rangi |
also, if you are still in testing, definitely upgrade to 3.8.3 |
22:57 |
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rangi |
lots and lots of bugs fixed between 3.8.1 and 3.8.3 |
22:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #126: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/126/ |
22:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Follow up, use 'day' instead of 'days' for Datetime::truncate |
22:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
23:01 |
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martian523 |
thanks |
23:02 |
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rangi |
if it was installed using debian.koha-community.org it should be a simple apt-get upgrade |
23:03 |
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martian523 |
ok, i'll tell IT to look into that |
23:04 |
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rangi |
that was the most succesful mibbit interaction ever |
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23:17 |
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rangi |
jcamins: do you have a 3.6.7 install up and running anywhere? |
23:19 |
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jcamins |
Depends what you want me to check. ;) |
23:20 |
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rangi |
just try editing a notice |
23:20 |
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rangi |
its not saving for me, and im pretty sure im running a stock 3.6.7 .. so wanted a second confirmation |
23:22 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
23:22 |
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jcamins |
It worked for me. |
23:22 |
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rangi |
dangit |
23:22 |
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jcamins |
tools/letter.pl? |
23:22 |
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rangi |
:) |
23:22 |
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rangi |
yeah |
23:22 |
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rangi |
well thats good in a way :) |
23:23 |
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rangi |
thanks for checking |
23:25 |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. |
23:27 |
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rangi |
out of date en-nz templates, that was the problem |
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Judit |
good morning |