IRC log for #koha, 2012-08-06

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00:45 dcook joined #koha
00:45 dcook Allo #koha
00:50 dcook Does anyone know if BSort1 is actually connected in any way to anything?
01:05 * dcook takes back his question
01:05 dcook Since Sort 1 and Sort 2 show as empty text fields when there is nothing defined in the BSort1 or BSort2 fields, I never realized that they were actually connected!
01:06 dcook And that drop-downs would be created if BSort1 and BSort2 were actually defined!
01:06 dcook ^_^
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02:19 NZICA Hi all :)
02:19 NZICA does anyone have 20 seconds to help with an SQL question?
02:20 rangi probably not many around this time of the day, its late at night or early in the morning for most people
02:21 NZICA Fair enough... didn't realise IRC users needed sleep >.>
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04:13 rangi hi cait
04:14 cait hi rangi
04:18 * dcook waves to cait
04:18 cait hi dcook :)
04:19 dcook :)
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06:00 cait mveron++
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06:18 marcelr hi #koha
06:19 cait hi marcelr :)
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06:53 ala_3v0 I have this koha software error message when launching the staff interface from browser:
06:53 ala_3v0 Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 680. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 33. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 33. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cg​i-bin/members/ line 39. BEGIN failed--com
06:53 ala_3v0 that is part of it
06:53 ala_3v0 can anyone help
06:56 rangi Does the early part say something about can't open koha-conf.xml ?
06:57 rangi Chances are it's file permissions if so
06:58 rangi You can paste the whole of the error at
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06:58 rangi But now I have to out my children to bed
06:59 mveron Hi #koha
07:00 ala_3v0 thanks rangi i'll try to paste it there
07:01 ala_3v0 what if I restore a backup sql file?
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07:05 ala_3v0
07:06 ala_3v0 The error message is on the link above
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07:21 kf good morning #koha :)
07:23 mveron Hi kf
07:23 mveron :-)
07:23 kf hi mveron :)
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07:27 gaetan_B hello :)
07:29 rangi hi kf mveron and gaetan_B
07:29 mveron hi rangi
07:29 kf please programmers, don't be too clever when constructing sentences in your templates... *sigh* (directed to noone special)
07:30 rangi untranslatable strings?
07:30 kf no
07:30 rangi actually thats a good rule in general, don't try and be too clever
07:30 kf sentences puzzled together with if constructs
07:30 rangi be it in templates or in code
07:31 rangi readable code > clever code
07:32 * kf nods
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07:34 * mveron nods as well
07:36 * mbalmer suppresses a comment about "readable" and "Perl"...
07:37 * kf suppresses a comment about how you can write unreadable bad code in every language...
07:42 * mbalmer points at
07:45 * mveron will file a bug to have better translatable text in: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools
07:48 kf mveron++
07:49 mveron And the file name:  koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/​modules/tools/
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08:02 rangi hmm thats not a very helpful answer
08:02 rangi[…]uecomment-7518531
08:03 * rangi decides not to use code when the author doesnt know what license he has put it under
08:04 kf probably safer
08:04 mveron Bug 8573  - not sure to which component it should belong
08:04 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, veron, NEW , Translation difficult in due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction
08:05 kf hm you could put it in i18n or templates
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08:05 mveron kf: Ok switched it to templates
08:06 kf translate.koha... would be more used for a problem with pootle I think :)
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08:38 rangi hi eythian
08:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:38 eythian hiya
08:42 rangi wow mail from may!
08:43 rangi must have been stuck in a mail queue somewhere
08:56 kf hi eythian :)
08:56 * kf is counting days... :P
08:56 eythian hello
08:56 eythian heh
08:57 mveron Hi eythian :-)
08:58 mveron kf: Patch for Bug 8573 would need a critical eye...
08:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Translation difficult in due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction
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09:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #124: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/124/
09:41 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 8547 - JS error in star ratings breaks IE
09:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8547 major, P2, ---, robin, Passed QA , Enabling star ratings causes javascript errors that cause IE to have a boo boo
09:58 hdl !later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today
09:59 hdl @later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today
09:59 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
10:00 kf hdl: have you seen the request for an arabic list?
10:10 eythian mveron: that's for that signoff on the stars things - it's a hard bug to reproduce sometimes.
10:16 eythian mveron: *thanks* for that...
10:16 eythian too early in the afternoon...
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10:31 drojf good day #koha
10:32 rangi hi drojf
10:33 drojf hey rangi
10:34 * gaetan_B is again looking for a high res version of the koha logo...
10:39 gaetan_B don't we have a more recent and better version than this one ? :[…]ack-and-white.jpg
10:41 gaetan_B i thought the tagline was more like  'open-source integrated library system'
10:41 rangi we have both
10:42 rangi and thats only one of the logos
10:42 drojf from june 17:
10:42 drojf (11:50:02) mbalmer: I was asking slef about the availability of a vectorized Koha logo.
10:42 drojf (11:50:23) slef: We will have one used on our banners and will publish it as soon as we've paid the designer.
10:42 drojf (11:50:53) slef: I think there may be an earlier one around, used on Calyx's banner, but I need to email Irma to ask.
10:44 gaetan_B rangi: hmmm, where are ther other ones ?
10:44 rangi i dont know
10:44 gaetan_B oh ok :D
10:44 rangi youd have to ask the people who hijacked the domain
10:44 gaetan_B i have to blame myself to some extent though
10:45 rangi because the were tifs on the old koha site
10:45 gaetan_B i did vectorize something a fex month back and i can't seem to find it again
10:45 gaetan_B *few
10:46 rangi ah ha!
10:46 rangi lucky im paranoid and backed that site up
10:46 rangi 5 mins ill put a copy of them all up for you
10:48 gaetan_B :)
10:50 rangi theres even an old freehand file there
10:52 rangi hmm 1500 .. we have a contestant in this
10:52 * rangi watches
10:58 * drojf is waiting for high res colour pictures of martians
11:02 * kf waves
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11:02 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
11:04 gaetan_B thanks rangi, i'll use one of those to try and do a vectorized version
11:04 kf gaetan_B: perhaps mail slef and ask? he might have one available now :)
11:05 gaetan_B kf: that's a good point
11:05 gaetan_B hmmm kf what's his real name / email address ?
11:06 kf mj
11:06 mtompset irc regulars?
11:06 wahanui hmmm... irc regulars is at
11:06 kf it seems I forgot his last name
11:06 kf gaetan_B: look for mj on the mailing list :)
11:07 kf mj ray :)
11:08 drojf hi kf :)
11:08 mtompset If you wanted to change the font of h1#libraryname, how would you do it?
11:08 drojf mtompset: jquery maybe?
11:08 kf css?
11:08 wahanui well, css is probably easier
11:08 drojf probably ;)
11:09 mtompset Yes, I figured CSS.
11:09 kf but you know, fonts are not so easy
11:09 mtompset But for the life of me, I am dumbfounded.
11:09 kf you know that the font must be available on the computer viewing it?
11:09 mtompset The font on our webpage has reverted to the default, despite no CSS changes.
11:09 kf I think there are newer tricks around now, but haven't used one of those
11:09 kf which font did you use?
11:10 kf and did it really revert? are you looking at it from the same computer?
11:10 mtompset BlackJarRegular... it's not a normal font that is installed everywhere.
11:10 kf see...
11:10 mtompset Yes, it reverted.
11:10 kf you have it installed? did you install a newer version of your browser or changed the settings?
11:11 mtompset It works for my coworker.
11:11 kf ah
11:11 kf see
11:11 kf local
11:11 mtompset It stopped working for me.
11:11 kf I would say, font or browser settings
11:11 mtompset My co-worker is several hundred miles away.
11:11 mtompset He's never gone to the site before.
11:11 mtompset It stopped working for the users too.
11:14 mtompset Annoyingly, it's like the browser is loading the remote font, and then still decides to use default.
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11:14 mtompset And it's not a browser thing, because I tried under IE and Firefox, and cleared both caches.
11:14 chinu hello
11:14 wahanui what's up, chinu
11:14 kf I think if you want to use a special font, it's probably easier to use a picture instead
11:14 kf safer
11:14 chinu i need answer for a Q
11:15 chinu have u used opac search
11:15 chinu ?
11:15 chinu opac search?
11:15 wahanui i guess opac search is good working for english biblios. i think only problem for mongolian. when i search mongolian than wrong results.
11:16 chinu how it serches?
11:16 kf chinu: what is your problem?
11:16 chinu u know about deatil?
11:16 kf wahanui: forget opac search?
11:16 wahanui kf: I forgot opac search
11:16 kf chinu: sorry, I can't help you if you don't have a more specific quesion
11:17 kf can you describe your problem?
11:18 eythian[…]32352317603713024 <-- drojf
11:18 chinu while searching which data it matches with query
11:18 chinu ?
11:19 kf eythian: you are mean, now I will have nightmares again
11:19 kf chinu: I am sorry, I don't understand. where are you from?
11:19 drojf eythian: lol excellent
11:21 chinu about opac-search u know?
11:22 drojf chinu: please try to explain a) what you are trying to do b) what is not working for you
11:24 chinu I want learn the perl program who searches for given query
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11:25 chinu I am from computer science
11:25 eythian chinu: then you start with and trace through it until you get to
11:25 eythian (then you stop because you've started drinking)
11:26 drojf and then you have enough
11:26 drojf heh
11:26 * mtompset laughs.
11:26 chinu ???
11:26 drojf you will understand once you looked at
11:26 chinu anybody from computer science?
11:27 eythian I have a masters degree in it...
11:28 kf ... and you don't dare to go into
11:28 eythian Nope.
11:28 eythian I just protest that computer science is all about the theory, not the implementation.
11:28 eythian And then go to the pub.
11:29 BobB hdl?
11:29 wahanui hdl is probably saying, who when where, how.
11:29 rangi[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC
11:29 eythian BobB: he's having lunch right now
11:29 BobB hi eythian, are you at Biblibre now?
11:29 eythian Oui.
11:30 BobB ah, bien
11:30 BobB @later tell HDL thanks!  I have let Irma know.
11:30 huginn BobB: The operation succeeded.
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11:31 BobB eythian lunch must be good there.
11:31 BobB I like lunch.  :)
11:31 eythian it is good here
11:32 eythian kf: in answer to the question: North Maharashtra University, Jalgaon, India
11:32 kf oh
11:32 kf thx
11:32 chinu how u get that I am from North Maharashtra university, Jalgaon, India?
11:33 eythian masters degree in computer science ;)
11:33 BobB LOL !
11:34 chinu really tell me how?
11:34 chinu eythian?
11:34 wahanui eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence
11:34 chinu kf?
11:34 wahanui i heard kf was cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
11:34 eythian <-- sorta like this
11:34 BobB shut up wahanui
11:35 eythian wahanui: shut up wahanui is <reply>$who is making me cry!
11:35 wahanui OK, eythian.
11:35 BobB shut up wahanui
11:35 wahanui BobB is making me cry!
11:36 hdl wahanui: forget hdl
11:36 wahanui hdl: I forgot hdl
11:36 BobB hi hdl
11:39 * mveron back from lunch
11:39 kf chinu: ip address I assume
11:39 mveron eythian: Thanks for the thanks above, welcome :-)
11:40 eythian kf: yep
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11:43 kf hi nengard
11:43 nengard hello
11:45 mbalmer hi nengard
11:46 mbalmer nengard, say, I am writing an article about Koha, may I use your group picture from edinbrugh as an illustration?  (magazine for swiss librarians)
11:46 nengard Of course you can.
11:50 mbalmer ok, many thanks!
11:54 mtompset Oh that was an overt demonstration of no knowledge on CSI's part.
11:59 mtompset Okay, perhaps cross site font downloads is the problem... let's try ....
12:03 mtompset Okay... so why don't cross-site font downloads work?
12:07 eythian probably something to do with security
12:08 eythian that's usually the reason cross-site <noun/verb> doesn't work
12:22 mtompset Their fonts! How can fonts be a security risk?
12:22 mtompset Do they have some evil pre-display hook?
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12:27 eythian I think it's to prevent *ahem* <airquotes>stealing</airquotes> of fonts from other sites.
12:27 eythian If you set the Access-Control-Allow-Origin header, you can specify who is allowed to use them
12:27 kf @wunder Konstanz
12:27 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.0°C (2:25 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
12:32 oleonard Hi #koha
12:34 kf hi oleonard
12:34 kf :)
12:34 kf @wunder Konstanz
12:34 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.8°C (2:30 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
12:34 kf hm. it's raining huginn
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12:35 eythian I hope huginn is not heavy, getting hit would but unpleasant
12:35 kf ?
12:35 eythian though, you'd think a raven would just fly.
12:35 eythian Well, you said it was raining huginn.
12:35 kf lol
12:36 jcamins Hehe.
12:38 mtompset Greetings, jcamins and oleonard .
12:42 mtompset @wunder MNL
12:42 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 23.0°C (8:00 PM PHT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
12:42 mtompset Yep... that's about right.
12:42 mtompset It's a really loud rain.
12:45 kf hm rain in marseille, in Konstanz and in manila... who in #koha is to blame? :)
12:46 liw no rain in Manchester, UK
12:46 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
12:46 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.2°C (2:42 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
12:46 oleonard Our rain was yesterday
12:46 eythian liw: I think maybe you're in the wrong UK
12:46 drojf it's sunny here actually
12:47 liw eythian, pfft, this is the right UK, it's that day of the month when it doesn't rain
12:47 eythian good old first-monday, eh.
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13:02 * oleonard is more tired than he should be having not even stayed up late to watch a robot land on Mars
13:02 mtompset Greetings, tcohen
13:02 mtompset Greetings, ago43
13:04 tcohen hi mtompset
13:04 mtompset I'd look at my bugs list, but if I do that... I won't stop coding.
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13:05 oleonard Hm, so suspending a hold doesn't exclude it from showing up in the holds queue report? That seems like a pretty major failure.
13:08 oleonard Bug 8419
13:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8419 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue
13:11 nengard oleonard bug 8412 is updated per your suggestions
13:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , add color icon set
13:12 jcamins nengard: is one of your libraries planning on using that? I don't think I've ever encountered a library willing to put that kind of time into noting the colors of books.
13:13 nengard jcamins nope, but I did read an article in a law library magazine about a library that does that
13:13 nengard and it doesn't really hurt anything to have the option there
13:13 jcamins No, it certainly doesn't.
13:13 nengard it is more likely to be used in a special library - law specifically - I think
13:14 nengard cause it's easy to bulk edit a bunch of items cause you know what color each series is :)
13:14 jcamins I was just amazed that someone was going to go back and retroactively fill all that out.
13:14 nengard I would be amazed if anyone did!
13:14 nengard in any way other than bulk editing
13:14 oleonard jcamins: This from the guy who added an option to allow libraries to scan and upload book covers ;)
13:15 * mtompset grins.
13:15 mtompset jcamins?
13:15 wahanui i guess jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins
13:15 mtompset That is going to haunt you for a long time, jcamins. :)
13:16 jcamins oleonard: there doesn't tend to be a lot of retrospective photography to do, if you're using that feature.
13:17 kf hm color bulk update feature using lists of scanned barcodes? :)
13:18 oleonard Now, just write an image-recognition bot to load OPAC results, average the color from book cover images, and set the color that way
13:18 kf but that's the cover color, not the spine color...
13:18 jcamins Or you have a digitization grant, I suppose.
13:18 jcamins However, I had forgotten how monotonous the colors of law books are... you have entire shelves that are all red or all green or the like.
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13:26 eythian hey SQL people, why would these two queries give a different number of rows: and -- the only difference is the fields to select.
13:27 * mveron is about to sign-off Bug 5349 with 2 patches, but is stuck with the steps on[…]_bz_configuration
13:27 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Moving an order
13:28 kf mveron: what is the problem? :)
13:28 mveron git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive   What is this id?
13:29 kf ah
13:29 kf if you do git log
13:29 jcamins eythian: I have no idea.
13:29 kf the unreadable part
13:29 eythian jcamins: one gives 56, the other 106 (on the db I'm testing)
13:30 eythian I consider 56 to be the correct answer.
13:31 kf may I ask what it is you are trying to do?
13:31 mveron kf: Ok, I see some IDs...  Reading helps. Reaing unreadable parts helps as well  :-)
13:31 kf mveron: I was trying to find an example for you :)
13:31 kf didn't know how to describe it better
13:32 kf eythian: why all the unions?
13:32 eythian kf: to include the deleteditems and deletedbiblios
13:32 kf hmm
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13:39 kf eythian: don't know why different results :(
13:41 eythian hmm, the longer ones appear to include duplicates from somewhere...
13:44 jwagner eythian, I think you're confusing it by trying to include biblionumber inside the union.
13:46 eythian the catch is, the real query has a ton of fields and gives me even more rows
13:48 kf hm
13:48 kf have you tried adding some parentheses?
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13:52 eythian kf: no difference
13:52 kf yeah
13:52 kf I see the same in my database
13:52 kf using a different borrowernumer of course.
13:52 kf hmm.
13:53 kf hm
13:54 kf you could try to compare the results for each union separately
13:54 kf see where the difference comes from
13:55 eythian well.
13:55 eythian > select itemnumber from items where itemnumber in (select itemnumber from deleteditems);
13:55 eythian 30 rows in set (0.95 sec)
13:55 eythian that should not be the case.
13:56 kf uhoh
13:56 kf probably if you delete the last max itemnumber it gets reassigned?
13:56 eythian and 7 for the deletedbiblio
13:57 eythian no, the incrementer should always just increment
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13:57 jcamins That doesn't sound good at all.
13:57 kf nope
13:58 kf thre goes my dream of undoing deletes in the near future...
14:03 mtompset Good day (24 hour period), #koha. MAybe tomorrow I'll get to work on Koha stuff.
14:04 mtompset That's why I don't really like autoincrementing fields myself, kf.
14:04 * mtompset waves bye.
14:04 kf eythian: share if you find out what's happening? I am curious what's wrong with that sql
14:04 eythian kf: nothing, I think
14:05 eythian I think it's that the data is weird.
14:05 eythian going to do more science on it though
14:05 kf eythian: I have the same here... an dmy data isn't weird :)
14:05 * kf believes in her data
14:26 * eythian heads to the station to book tickets.
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14:29 tcohen hi #koha, is the cover image showing feature conditional to the existence of it?
14:30 tcohen i mena, we have a cover uploaded, will it still search for it in google (for example)
14:30 tcohen ?
14:30 oleonard Yes
14:31 oleonard If you have multiple image sources enabled Koha will try to show covers from each of them
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14:36 tcohen oleonard, is that a bug or a feature?
14:36 tcohen[…]ialogo+filosofico
14:37 oleonard I consider it a bug. Bug 7187 I think matches
14:37 kf1 hm
14:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next
14:38 * jcamins agrees.
14:38 jcamins Definitely bug.
14:38 tcohen oleonard, thanks for pointing it
14:38 * jcamins is looking forward to kmkale's fixing of said bug.
14:38 oleonard jcamins: Do you know if kmkale has code in progress?
14:39 tcohen another question, would it be usefull to provide a daily circulation report on the circulation page?
14:39 jcamins oleonard: I do not.
14:39 tcohen i provided one to my librarians, and they are really missing it
14:39 oleonard tcohen: Someone tried something similar in Bug 6828
14:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, barry, Failed QA , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users.
14:39 tcohen so i'd implement it anyway
14:40 tcohen (since we went live with 3.8 stock)
14:40 tcohen i'll look at those bugs
14:41 tcohen thanks
14:46 tcohen how would #koha propose to achieve that priority thing in bug 7187?
14:46 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next
14:46 tcohen a | separated list of values?
14:46 jcamins tcohen: that'd be my preference.
14:46 tcohen a new <Service>Weight preference for each cover-provider?
14:46 jcamins I'd prefer the single list.
14:47 tcohen any other vote?
14:47 tcohen (i find it error-prone, but can't think of better solutions)
14:50 tcohen two prefs? one to choose a default and another to set it to traverse the activated services or just use the default?
14:52 jcamins That would work too.
14:55 tcohen is it ok to change the bug to origin/master ?
14:56 jcamins Yes, it should be versioned against master.
14:56 tcohen done
14:57 tcohen time to study that code :-D
15:00 oleonard I wonder if Google's TOS forbids caching book cover images
15:07 tcohen a web proxy is doing it for sure
15:10 tcohen Prohibitions on Content:...
15:10 tcohen Scrape, build databases or otherwise create permanent copies of such content, or keep cached copies longer than permitted by the cache header;
15:11 tcohen (Google TOS)
15:11 oleonard Yeah, I think it's the same for Amazon
15:11 tcohen do we have a place on the wiki to paste links to this relevant info?
15:12 oleonard Without caching you have to run through each of your cover image sources every time... very time-consuming.
15:12 tcohen oleonard, it depends
15:12 tcohen on your infrastructure
15:13 tcohen if you are on a university and have a transparent proxy...
15:13 oleonard I'm talking about out-of-the-box Koha
15:13 tcohen I agree
15:13 oleonard We should design it to be as efficient as we can all by itself
15:14 tcohen cd op
15:14 tcohen hehe, missed the terminal
15:17 gaetan_B do i need specific permissions to upload an image to the wiki ?
15:18 oleonard gaetan_B: I don't think so. Are you having trouble?
15:19 gaetan_B i'm trying to upload a cleaned up and vectorized logo on the wiki
15:19 gaetan_B i probably just can't find the right tool :-/
15:20 oleonard gaetan_B:[…]ki/Special:Upload
15:20 gaetan_B aaah tanks oleonard :)
15:20 gaetan_B s/tanks/thanks
15:21 oleonard gaetan_B: I see that link in the left-hand sidebar down towards the bottom
15:21 gaetan_B yes, somehow all these links had been pushed all the way to the bottom of the page when i clicked "edit"
15:21 gaetan_B now i see them :)
15:24 tcohen OPACAmazonCoverImages pref is not used in
15:25 gaetan_B aah but you can't upload svg files it seems... too bad
15:26 oleonard Weird. Maybe it's a configuration thing which could be changed?
15:27 oleonard "Allow upload of SVG files in the LocalSettings.php file: $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg';"
15:28 oleonard[…]_upload_of_images
15:34 kf1 oleonard: I would think so
15:41 jcamins gaetan_B: could you please tell joubu to sign onto #koha?
15:42 jcamins I have a question for him about Moo.
15:42 gaetan_B jcamins: sorry he has already left !
15:42 jcamins gaetan_B: ah well.
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15:50 PRA How to upgrade koha 2.0.0 on redhat to koha 3.8
15:52 oleonard That's a big question to have answered in under one minute!
15:52 drojf PRA is still here, PR left ;)
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15:53 jcamins PRA: that's going to be a bit of a challenge. There's a document on the wiki, I think.
15:53 oleonard Aside from the platform issues, isn't the process 2 -> 3 -> 3.8 ?
15:53 jcamins Yes, I think so.
15:54 * oleonard wonders if this is up to date:
15:55 PRA ok. it's not possible. tell me how to export bibilo from koha 2.0 in *.mrc file?
15:55 jcamins No, it is possible. Just very difficult.
15:58 PRA Ok. How to export bibilo from KOHA 2.0 in marc forma?
15:58 * jcamins doesn't know, sorry.
15:58 drojf my guess is that is not possible
15:58 jcamins I started using Koha at 3.0.6/3.2.
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16:03 rangi why im awake
16:03 rangi[…]-North-Is-regions
16:04 rangi[…]/wtvz/10/drum.png
16:05 PRA ok. thanks.
16:05 jcamins Wow.
16:10 jwagner rangi, where is Mt Tongariro -- is that one of the ones near Lake Taupo?
16:10 rangi yep
16:10 rangi the three of them there, normally it is ruapehu erupting
16:11 jwagner I saw them when I was touristing. They said the last eruption was in the 90s sometime? That would have been Ruapehu?
16:11 rangi yep
16:11 gaetan_B bye #koha, see you tomorrow !
16:11 rangi ngaruhoe smokes a lot, but hasnt erupted in ages
16:11 rangi tongariro they thought was dormant
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16:12 rangi  <-- thats ruapehu
16:13 liw rangi, you live in a country with exiting geology!
16:13 rangi yes, and i crazily have alerts on my phone which wake me up
16:13 * rangi switches them off and goes back to sleep
16:13 jwagner I'd say "let me sleep until the lava gets near my house" :-)
16:13 oleonard Crazy like a fox who doesn't want to get covered in lava
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16:17 * wizzyrea waves
16:17 * wizzyrea startles at the early rangi sighting
16:17 oleonard Because volcano wizzyrea!
16:17 wizzyrea I know!
16:17 wizzyrea CRAZY
16:21 oleonard How could one do original cataloging if Koha couldn't connect to MySQL?
16:21 * oleonard reading the Koha mailing list
16:21 jcamins Yeah, I was wondering about that.
16:22 jcamins I am thinking maybe he was able to do it before.
16:23 jcamins (but couldn't if he tried now)
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16:24 wizzyrea I'm rather surprised that he can do anything if he can't connect to mysql
16:24 jcamins wizzyrea: I think he couldn't do anything now.
16:25 jcamins I will respond once I finish what I'm working on.
16:25 wizzyrea you should let us peons answer that ;)
16:25 jcamins Heh.
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17:01 wizzyrea oh, guess the latest SIP doesn't work with Overdrive - really need to get that set up to allow the line endings to be defined in the conf :/
17:02 jcamins wizzyrea: yes. That's why it's not going into 3.6.x.
17:04 wizzyrea silly.
17:13 * oleonard can confirm that, unfortunately
17:20 wizzyrea ez fix tho :)
17:24 Callender Has anyone seen a problem in 3.08 where when going into the Guided Report Wizard and creating a New Definition, Step 3 is a blank page? I notice that the "Current Terms" section doesn't display either on the dictionary screen
17:24 jcamins Callender: the guided report wizard doesn't work at all.
17:24 jcamins Don't use it.
17:24 jcamins We should probably remove it.
17:25 Callender ok
17:26 wizzyrea hm i'm not having a problem with that actually
17:27 wizzyrea step 3 on both guided reports *and* the dictionary works for me
17:27 wizzyrea s/works/work
17:27 Callender I get nothing over here. I wonder if it's something with the DB when it's trying to grab those columns
17:27 wizzyrea what exact steps are you following?
17:28 wizzyrea the first question?
17:28 wahanui "What are you trying to do?"  "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?"
17:28 wizzyrea the second question?
17:28 wahanui the second question is "What is the exact error message?"
17:28 wizzyrea the third question?
17:28 wahanui the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?"[…]ion-koha-running/
17:28 wizzyrea also, which version of 3.8?
17:29 Callender This one is,
17:29 wizzyrea ah, i'm looking at master
17:29 wizzyrea is an upgrade possible?
17:30 jcamins Yeah, using 3.8.0 is probably not such a good idea.
17:30 wizzyrea heh
17:30 wizzyrea that might be understatement ;)
17:30 jcamins wizzyrea: given that I feel doubtful about 3.8.3... yeah, it just might be.
17:30 wizzyrea 3.8.3 is pretty solid though
17:30 Callender Go to reports > Guided report wizard > View Dictionary > and at that point, I don't see the columns that should be there. If I go into create a new definition, getting to step 3.. just a blank screen.
17:31 wizzyrea WFM :)
17:31 Callender lets hold off then for me, I'll upgrade this system
17:31 wizzyrea cool beans :)
17:31 Callender and I'll see if that takes care of it
17:31 wizzyrea it's really likely it'll be better
17:31 wizzyrea I kind of remember this bug
17:31 wizzyrea sorta
17:31 * wizzyrea has slept since then
17:31 Callender thanks guys.. and gals! :)
17:32 * wizzyrea salutes Callender "anytime!"
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18:09 * tcohen is wondering how to acknowledge that his work on Koha is sponsored by UNC
18:09 jcamins Sponsored-by: University N... Cordoba. :)
18:09 jcamins I sent an e-mail to koha-devel about this.
18:09 tcohen in the patch comment?
18:10 cait jcamins: maybe put it in the coding guidelines as an option?
18:10 jcamins cait: I think I did.
18:10 jcamins tcohen: yup.
18:10 jcamins I'll check.
18:11 tcohen found it
18:12 jcamins I guess it's not in the coding guidelines. Adding now.
18:12 tcohen some time in the future, i'd need my bosses to see it as my contract says any work I do belongs to the University
18:13 tcohen 'belongs' in the sense of meaning the university has commited some work to an open source project
18:14 tcohen not in the sense of IP and that stuff
18:15 tcohen is it clear what I mean jcamins?
18:15 jcamins tcohen: yeah, that's what Sponsored-by is for.
18:15 tcohen thanks!
18:15 jcamins I was just editing the coding guidelines.
18:16 jcamins[…]od_commit_message
18:17 tcohen great jcamins
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18:18 tcohen the missing bit would be setting the commit message editor to insert that automagically
18:19 jcamins Yeah, if you only have the one client you could certainly do that.
18:19 jcamins Though- it would be a problem for signing off.
18:20 tcohen u r right
18:20 jcamins git config --global commit.template $HOME/.gitmessage.txt
18:20 jcamins git++ # git is totally awesome
18:20 jcamins tcohen:
18:21 * oleonard uses that trick to preface each commit with "And so it came to pass..."
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18:22 wizzyrea LOL
18:23 wizzyrea our commit messages could be so much more epic
18:23 wizzyrea AND SO IT CAME TO PASS THAT "bug 1398 - blah blah blah EPIC WIN"
18:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1398 normal, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED INVALID, Branch management not working with returns
18:23 jcamins lol
18:30 tcohen is it ok to require LIB ; import LIB
18:30 tcohen or is it better to use LIB ?
18:31 jcamins use LIB is generally better, I think.
18:31 tcohen i'm revisiting
18:31 tcohen and found both used
18:32 jcamins Hehe. I'm not surprised.
18:32 jcamins We prefer use.
18:32 jcamins Usually.
18:32 tcohen i think amazon and syndetics stuff should be loaded the same way bakertaylor stuff is
18:32 jcamins Agreed.
18:32 tcohen which checks for the syspref prior to loading the libs
18:33 tcohen but... bakertaylor uses that require ; import
18:33 tcohen schema
18:33 * jcamins doesn't really know much about it. If your patch works, though, I'll sign off. :)
18:34 jcamins The cover code, though, is all javascript.
18:34 tcohen haha
18:34 jcamins So far as I know.
18:34 tcohen yes
18:34 tcohen but... needs those variables set from the .pl
18:35 tcohen i'll continue to study that code, and guess i'll ask oleonard for some help
18:35 tcohen :-D
18:48 wizzyrea @marc 500
18:48 huginn wizzyrea: General information for which a specialized 5XX note field has not been defined. (Repeatable) [a,3,5,6,8]
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19:14 mbalmer @marc balmer
19:14 huginn mbalmer: unknown tag balmer
19:14 mbalmer heh ;)
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19:22 mveron @wunder Basel
19:22 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 17.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
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19:23 wizzyrea @wunder 66049
19:23 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.5°C (2:21 PM CDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
19:23 wizzyrea ! seriously? yesterday it was in the 80's
19:24 wizzyrea well, 25C ish
19:25 oleonard @wunder 45701
19:25 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 30.6°C (2:50 PM EDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
19:27 mbalmer someone should change the topic to "Koha - The Weather Channel"
19:28 nengard is anyone around (oleonard maybe) who can explain what doc changes I need to make per bug 8392
19:28 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8392 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , Memberentry is not enforcing birthdate restrictions
19:28 nengard Do I need to say that the birthday limit is only checked if that field is mandatory?
19:28 oleonard Yes
19:28 nengard or recommend that the birthday be made required if you want Koha to enforce the age limit
19:29 nengard oops .. yes which?
19:29 oleonard It will only check the birthdate limit if the field is mandatory
19:29 nengard got it
19:29 nengard thanks!
19:29 cait oleonard: I don't like that much :(
19:30 cait but I know it was not you :)
19:30 oleonard cait: How would it handle empty birthdates if the field was not mandatory?
19:30 cait not check
19:31 cait so you coul give the birthdate for not adult patrons
19:31 cait but leave it empty for adult patrons
19:32 oleonard You'd have to create a new preference to define which categories of patrons should require age enforcement
19:32 nengard i'm with cait
19:32 nengard but understand why it was done this way
19:32 nengard and now the manual reflects that :)
19:32 cait oleonard: the problem is that I was told dates of birth are sensitive data - most of our libraries don't store it at all
19:33 nengard so you could just not store it and not use the upper or minimum age limites
19:33 cait yes
19:33 cait but it would be nice to use it when needed :)
19:34 cait but it's really not a big deal, only a bit grumpy tonight
19:34 cait :)
19:35 jcamins cait++ # for fixing my unit test
19:35 cait lol - I only asked some stupid questions comparing to pieces of code :)
19:43 rangi Morning again
19:43 nengard good afternoon :)
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19:44 jcamins You missed me flipping out about a unit test.
19:44 rangi Heh darn shall I read the logs?
19:44 nengard oh - jcamins - the training I just did was with an authorities fanatic she wanted so very many many more changes to authorities
19:44 jcamins No, mostly cait had to suffer.
19:44 nengard and I kept saying well we have an expert working on improving things
19:44 nengard :)
19:45 jcamins nengard: I'm not surprised. If you have a list I'd love to see it.
19:45 nengard i did report a bunch to calm her down
19:45 nengard mainly the lack of browse was a big deal
19:45 jcamins Ah, yeah, true browse is very problematic.
19:45 nengard the fact that you can't add an authority right from cataloging - you have to go out to authorities to create (unless you want Koha to create it for you based on what you type)
19:45 jcamins I didn't see that bug.
19:45 jcamins It's a duplicate.
19:46 jcamins I already implemented that. :P
19:46 nengard then the authority searching - the fact that united states -- encycopedia was getting too broad of results for her
19:46 nengard which did you do? the add authority in cataloging?
19:46 nengard bug #?
19:46 wahanui i think bug # is there
19:47 jcamins Bug 8208.
19:47 wahanui bug 8208 is, like, almost done
19:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin
19:47 nengard hehe
19:47 nengard awesome!
19:47 nengard I'll email the director over there with that one
19:47 nengard of course they're not on master yet, but they'll be happy to see it
19:48 jcamins As for the search, that'll be helped by bug 8206.
19:48 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC
19:48 jcamins Which actually impacts the staff client, too.
19:48 jcamins It adds consistent options, including access to heading-match, which is what she wants.
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19:51 nengard email sent
19:51 nengard I told them that you were working hard and that new stuff was coming all of the time
19:52 jcamins They should take a look at[…]_Improvements_RFC
19:52 nengard I also got another library complaining about Koha's cataloging interface - shocker!
19:52 jcamins nengard: no!
19:52 rangi Bug 7417 is a good one too
19:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches
19:52 rangi I get that all the time
19:53 rangi What's this MARC crap?
19:53 jcamins rangi: that's the one with the unit tests that were receiving many creative expletives.
19:53 jcamins I switched to DBD::Mock.
19:53 jcamins And DBD::Mock said "oh yeah? Just you try!"
19:53 nengard rangi i think we found that one while i was there
19:53 jcamins It was an epic battle.
19:54 jcamins I was losing, until cait told me to add a history check.
19:54 rangi Hehe
19:54 rangi Oh my blog was good for something!
19:54 jcamins At which point I discovered that the call to C4::Context->preference('marcflavour') was retrieving marcxml.
19:55 jcamins Yeah, but I liked the old layout a lot better.
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19:55 rangi I might switch back
19:56 jcamins Good.
19:56 jcamins You should.
19:57 rangi Hehe
19:57 rangi I like the photo of kahu though
19:59 jcamins Take out the Twitter updates a couple of the other sidebars?
19:59 cait I liked the really old one best
20:00 cait but the last one is way better than what you have now :)
20:00 * cait hides
20:00 rangi Hehe
20:00 rangi I'm not fragile, I can change it
20:01 oleonard Can/does Koha log what Koha user performs the transaction when checking something out?
20:01 rangi I'll switch when I get to work
20:01 jcamins oleonard: I think so. Isn't that circ log?
20:01 rangi Hmm I thought so
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20:04 oleonard I have  IssueLog turned on, but when I check the modification log of a book which is checked out, I get nothing
20:04 jcamins Ummm...
20:04 rangi Hmm not modification log, it should be circ log
20:05 jcamins was there a bug about this recently?
20:05 jcamins I have a vague recollection.
20:05 rangi Changing numbers ... Not sure it was pushed tho
20:05 cait I know it does log it - ony not sure how to access from within koha
20:06 cait I used it to check which checkouts were done using the self check :)
20:06 rangi In the log viewer I think if you just view the circ log?
20:07 rangi The bug is it stores biblionumber not itemnumber
20:07 rangi Iirc
20:08 oleonard it can't show the checkout history because biblionumber doesn't get you anything
20:08 rangi Yep
20:08 rangi But u can find it in the log
20:09 rangi You might want to try the patch
20:09 oleonard Do you know the bug?
20:09 wahanui it has been said that the bug is that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way
20:09 * rangi always looks for a signoff angle
20:10 rangi Not off the top of my head
20:10 jcamins Bug 7241.
20:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
20:10 jcamins Found it. :)
20:10 cait ah
20:10 cait you were faster :(
20:11 * oleonard had looked at that bug earlier, hoped fredericd was going to sign off since he seemed anxious for it to be pushed
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20:13 * oleonard zips into his testing jacket
20:13 jcamins Ugh.
20:13 jcamins My tests no longer cover 100% of the files.
20:14 cait :)
20:14 jcamins Why is that?
20:14 rangi I think he is on vacation too
20:14 cait oleonard: does it have built in airbags?
20:14 jcamins Test coverage was at 100%.
20:14 jcamins Then I fiddled with things.
20:14 cait jcamins: scandalous - go and write more tests!
20:14 rangi Heh
20:15 rangi @wunder nzwn
20:15 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
20:15 rangi My stop brb
20:16 jcamins Oh, I see.
20:16 jcamins I inadvertantly mocked one of the subroutines.
20:17 wizzyrea you should apologize
20:17 jcamins Hehe.
20:17 wizzyrea you are going to hurt its feelings
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20:22 * oleonard doesn't see anything new in action_logs
20:22 rangi back
20:23 jcamins Actually, no, I think the problem is that I misunderstood how Devel::Cover works.
20:24 magnuse @wunder boo
20:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
20:25 magnuse g'night #koha ;-)
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20:25 jcamins That was part of the problem.
20:25 oleonard Oh wait yes I do. I guess it is working
20:25 rangi night magnuse
20:26 ExtraordinaryBen Hello, I'm helping my Library get Koha setup as their new ILS. I've got it up and running, but it doesn't seem to be remembering anything. (Library is always not set, etc.) Any help would be appreciated. ;)
20:26 jcamins ExtraordinaryBen: you should never log in as the database administrative user.
20:26 cait ExtraordinaryBen: you need to create real staff accounts - don't work with the root user
20:27 cait to do that, create a branch, a patron category with category staff and add a new patron - and then give it permissions from more in the toolbar
20:27 ExtraordinaryBen Okay, awesome. many thanks. (Ugh, knew it must have been something simple.)
20:28 rangi[…]in-over-100-years  <-- yuck
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20:29 cait ExtraordinaryBen: :)
20:29 wizzyrea ewww
20:29 wizzyrea poor horses
20:29 rangi heh
20:29 rangi A few locals did drive to the Hirangi Marae in Turangi but most just stood and watched the spectacular show.
20:29 rangi "It's a volcano. If it goes. It will go. We'll all be vapourised. Ruapehu and Ngauruhoe  have erupted regularly over the years. Now it is Tongariro's turn."
20:43 kathryn g'morning
20:43 jcamins <-- this is what the coverage report should look like.
20:44 jcamins (no unit tests were run for code in C4::)
20:44 jcamins Good morning, kathryn.
20:44 kathryn :)
20:44 rangi jcamins: nice ;)
20:45 cait hi kathryn :)
20:45 kathryn hi cait :D
20:45 cait :)
20:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #125 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:55 jcamins Hey.
20:55 jcamins It seems to me that Net::ZOOM should have some unit tests.
20:55 * jcamins goes looking for them.
20:55 jcamins Or ZOOM.
20:55 jcamins Or whatever we use.
20:57 jcamins Well...
20:57 jcamins huh.
20:57 jcamins Was anyone else expecting the ZOOM test suite to pass?
20:58 rangi it fails on the connection to a test server, the test server is dead
20:58 rangi well thats what fialed for me last time
20:58 jcamins It's failing on scan.
20:59 jcamins Huh.
21:08 gmcharlt rangi: would I be correct in making a wild guess that 8181 is not a candidate for backporting to 3.8.x?
21:08 rangi lemme look
21:08 jcamins bug 8181
21:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version
21:08 cait night all
21:09 rangi im currently picking stuff out of the Passed QA queue, that are bug fixes, for 3.8.x (since nothing is going into master for 3 weeks)
21:09 gmcharlt asking mostly because one of its side-effects is fixing some breakage introduced by the patch for 2780
21:09 cait bug 2780
21:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Capitalize strings consistently
21:10 rangi probably not, unless i got another sign off
21:10 rangi[…]g.cgi?id=8181#c12
21:10 huginn Bug 8181: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version
21:10 rangi doesnt fill me full of confidence
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21:11 gmcharlt rangi: yeah, that's what I thought
21:15 jcamins Is there any way in Perl to create an object that will automagically create any accessors it is called with, and return the same thing?
21:15 jcamins (no matter what the accessor)
21:16 rangi im sure there is, but my brain is not telling me how
21:17 jcamins Yeah, my brain decided that was too much thinking, so we moved on to plan b.
21:20 rangi jcamins: i cant get the patch for bug 8581 to apply on master
21:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority display doesn't like GND records
21:20 rangi atal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/incl​udes/
21:20 rangi Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge.
21:20 rangi Cannot fall back to three-way merge
21:21 jcamins rangi: did you apply bug 3462 first?
21:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Link see alsos in authorities
21:21 rangi ahh probably not
21:22 * rangi does
21:23 rangi ah yep that was it
21:24 rangi ohh easy peasy change
21:25 jcamins Yeah. There's more needed, but that was the first thing I noticed.
21:33 rangi signed off
21:34 jcamins Okay...
21:35 jcamins Putting multiple packages in one file screws up Test::MockModule.
21:35 * jcamins wasn't expecting that.
21:36 rangi why would we do that?
21:36 rangi running out of filehandles? :)
21:38 jcamins We wouldn't.
21:38 jcamins IndexData would.
21:38 rangi ahhh
21:38 rangi maybe filehandles cost more in denmark
21:39 mgeist Have a good evening all
21:39 rangi cya mgeist
21:40 jcamins Okay, got around that issue.
21:41 jcamins ... for one brief, shining moment.
21:42 jcamins Wait.
21:42 jcamins I can do better than this.
21:43 jcamins How do you do a switch statement in Perl?
21:44 jcamins The non-deprecated, non-experimental way.
21:44 rangi i dont
21:44 jcamins Okay.
21:44 * jcamins continues writing his ifelse statement.
21:44 rangi but i think its given/when
21:45 rangi which was added in 5.10
21:45 jcamins No, that's experimental. There's another syntax which is allowed.
21:45 rangi for
21:45 rangi[…]Switch-Statements
21:46 rangi The foreach is the non-experimental way to set a topicalizer. I
21:46 jcamins Thanks.
21:48 jcamins Bwahahaha!!!!
21:48 * jcamins figures out how to trick ZOOM into thinking it has Zebra.
21:48 rangi :)
21:49 jcamins Okay... this leaves one slight problem. How do I get the kohaclone directory from a test.
21:49 rangi hmm?
21:49 rangi config?
21:49 wahanui well, config is still wrong.
21:51 jcamins But that's presupposing that I have a koha-conf.xml.
21:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #125: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/125/
21:56 * jcamins learns about XS.
21:56 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 8391: prevent error when viewing circ history with bad dates
21:56 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8391 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Cannot view reading record through staff client
21:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #126 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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22:52 martian523 i have a question about fines, it seems like it's not working
22:52 martian523 a book is overdue, but fine is not showing up
22:53 rangi what version of koha, and have you set up your rules? and have the cron job running, and have the fines mode set to calculate and charge?
22:53 martian523 version 3.8.1
22:53 martian523 set up my rules,
22:53 martian523 not sure about cron job
22:54 martian523 btw, i'm not an IT person
22:54 rangi ah, how did you install?
22:54 rangi or how did your it person install, using the debian packages? or from the tarball?
22:54 martian523 yeah
22:54 martian523 debian
22:54 rangi from ?
22:55 martian523 maybe
22:55 rangi you will need to know for sure, either way, your IT person needs to check the cron job for the fines is running
22:55 martian523 i just found out about the cron job for email notices since i haven't received any automatic email notices
22:55 rangi and you need to check in systempreferences
22:55 rangi to see what finesmode is set to
22:56 martian523 we're still in the testing process
22:56 rangi ah well they wont be charging unless you set them to :)
22:56 rangi also, if you are still in testing, definitely upgrade to 3.8.3
22:57 rangi lots and lots of bugs fixed between 3.8.1 and 3.8.3
22:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #126: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/126/
22:58 jenkins_koha tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Follow up, use 'day' instead of 'days' for Datetime::truncate
22:58 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin
23:01 martian523 thanks
23:02 rangi if it was installed using it should be a simple apt-get upgrade
23:03 martian523 ok, i'll tell IT to look into that
23:04 rangi that was the most succesful mibbit interaction ever
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23:17 rangi jcamins: do you have a 3.6.7 install up and running anywhere?
23:19 jcamins Depends what you want me to check. ;)
23:20 rangi just try editing a notice
23:20 rangi its not saving for me, and im pretty sure im running a stock 3.6.7 .. so wanted a second confirmation
23:22 jcamins Hm.
23:22 jcamins It worked for me.
23:22 rangi dangit
23:22 jcamins tools/
23:22 rangi :)
23:22 rangi yeah
23:22 rangi well thats good in a way :)
23:23 rangi thanks for checking
23:25 jcamins You're welcome.
23:27 rangi out of date en-nz templates, that was the problem
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23:56 Judit good morning

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