Time Nick Message 00:45 dcook Allo #koha 00:50 dcook Does anyone know if BSort1 is actually connected in any way to anything? 01:05 * dcook takes back his question 01:05 dcook Since Sort 1 and Sort 2 show as empty text fields when there is nothing defined in the BSort1 or BSort2 fields, I never realized that they were actually connected! 01:06 dcook And that drop-downs would be created if BSort1 and BSort2 were actually defined! 01:06 dcook ^_^ 02:19 NZICA Hi all :) 02:19 NZICA does anyone have 20 seconds to help with an SQL question? 02:20 rangi probably not many around this time of the day, its late at night or early in the morning for most people 02:21 NZICA Fair enough... didn't realise IRC users needed sleep >.> 04:03 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ffkp: "FFKP Weekly is out! http://t.co/1X6YRE4O ▸ Top stories today via @ludost11 @kohails @OSEPA_Project" 04:13 rangi hi cait 04:14 cait hi rangi 04:18 * dcook waves to cait 04:18 cait hi dcook :) 04:19 dcook :) 06:00 cait mveron++ 06:18 marcelr hi #koha 06:19 cait hi marcelr :) 06:53 ala_3v0 I have this koha software error message when launching the staff interface from browser: 06:53 ala_3v0 Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 680. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 33. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/moremember.pl line 39. BEGIN failed--com 06:53 ala_3v0 that is part of it 06:53 ala_3v0 can anyone help 06:56 rangi Does the early part say something about can't open koha-conf.xml ? 06:57 rangi Chances are it's file permissions if so 06:58 rangi You can paste the whole of the error at paste.koha-community.org 06:58 rangi But now I have to out my children to bed 06:59 mveron Hi #koha 07:00 ala_3v0 thanks rangi i'll try to paste it there 07:01 ala_3v0 what if I restore a backup sql file? 07:05 ala_3v0 http://mibpaste.com/lvFQLv 07:06 ala_3v0 The error message is on the link above 07:21 kf good morning #koha :) 07:23 mveron Hi kf 07:23 mveron :-) 07:23 kf hi mveron :) 07:27 gaetan_B hello :) 07:29 rangi hi kf mveron and gaetan_B 07:29 mveron hi rangi 07:29 kf please programmers, don't be too clever when constructing sentences in your templates... *sigh* (directed to noone special) 07:30 rangi untranslatable strings? 07:30 kf no 07:30 rangi actually thats a good rule in general, don't try and be too clever 07:30 kf sentences puzzled together with if constructs 07:30 rangi be it in templates or in code 07:31 rangi readable code > clever code 07:32 * kf nods 07:34 * mveron nods as well 07:36 * mbalmer suppresses a comment about "readable" and "Perl"... 07:37 * kf suppresses a comment about how you can write unreadable bad code in every language... 07:42 * mbalmer points at http://www.ioccc.org/ 07:45 * mveron will file a bug to have better translatable text in: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools 07:48 kf mveron++ 07:49 mveron And the file name: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/tools/picture-upload.tt 08:02 rangi hmm thats not a very helpful answer 08:02 rangi https://github.com/ssp/pazpar2-js-client/issues/1#issuecomment-7518531 08:03 * rangi decides not to use code when the author doesnt know what license he has put it under 08:04 kf probably safer 08:04 mveron Bug 8573 - not sure to which component it should belong 08:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, veron, NEW , Translation difficult in picture-upload.tt due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction 08:05 kf hm you could put it in i18n or templates 08:05 mveron kf: Ok switched it to templates 08:06 kf translate.koha... would be more used for a problem with pootle I think :) 08:38 rangi hi eythian 08:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:38 eythian hiya 08:42 rangi wow mail from may! 08:43 rangi must have been stuck in a mail queue somewhere 08:56 kf hi eythian :) 08:56 * kf is counting days... :P 08:56 eythian hello 08:56 eythian heh 08:57 mveron Hi eythian :-) 08:58 mveron kf: Patch for Bug 8573 would need a critical eye... 08:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8573 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Translation difficult in picture-upload.tt due to nested sentence in if/foreach/if/elsif - construction 09:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #124: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/124/ 09:41 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 8547 - JS error in star ratings breaks IE 09:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8547 major, P2, ---, robin, Passed QA , Enabling star ratings causes javascript errors that cause IE to have a boo boo 09:58 hdl !later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today 09:59 hdl @later tell BobB creating koha-OZ lists today 09:59 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded. 10:00 kf hdl: have you seen the request for an arabic list? 10:10 eythian mveron: that's for that signoff on the stars things - it's a hard bug to reproduce sometimes. 10:16 eythian mveron: *thanks* for that... 10:16 eythian too early in the afternoon... 10:31 drojf good day #koha 10:32 rangi hi drojf 10:33 drojf hey rangi 10:34 * gaetan_B is again looking for a high res version of the koha logo... 10:39 gaetan_B don't we have a more recent and better version than this one ? : http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/images/Koha-logo-black-and-white.jpg 10:41 gaetan_B i thought the tagline was more like 'open-source integrated library system' 10:41 rangi we have both 10:42 rangi and thats only one of the logos 10:42 drojf from june 17: 10:42 drojf (11:50:02) mbalmer: I was asking slef about the availability of a vectorized Koha logo. 10:42 drojf (11:50:23) slef: We will have one used on our banners and will publish it as soon as we've paid the designer. 10:42 drojf (11:50:53) slef: I think there may be an earlier one around, used on Calyx's banner, but I need to email Irma to ask. 10:44 gaetan_B rangi: hmmm, where are ther other ones ? 10:44 rangi i dont know 10:44 gaetan_B oh ok :D 10:44 rangi youd have to ask the people who hijacked the domain 10:44 gaetan_B i have to blame myself to some extent though 10:45 rangi because the were tifs on the old koha site 10:45 gaetan_B i did vectorize something a fex month back and i can't seem to find it again 10:45 gaetan_B *few 10:46 rangi ah ha! 10:46 rangi lucky im paranoid and backed that site up 10:46 rangi 5 mins ill put a copy of them all up for you 10:48 gaetan_B :) 10:49 rangi [off] http://stats.workbuffer.org/logos/koha-logo-2005-Libre-Bibliotheque.png 10:49 rangi [off] http://stats.workbuffer.org/logos/ 10:50 rangi theres even an old freehand file there 10:52 rangi hmm 1500 .. we have a contestant in this 10:52 * rangi watches 10:58 * drojf is waiting for high res colour pictures of martians 11:02 * kf waves 11:02 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 11:04 gaetan_B thanks rangi, i'll use one of those to try and do a vectorized version 11:04 kf gaetan_B: perhaps mail slef and ask? he might have one available now :) 11:05 gaetan_B kf: that's a good point 11:05 gaetan_B hmmm kf what's his real name / email address ? 11:06 kf mj 11:06 mtompset irc regulars? 11:06 wahanui hmmm... irc regulars is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars 11:06 kf it seems I forgot his last name 11:06 kf gaetan_B: look for mj on the mailing list :) 11:07 kf mj ray :) 11:08 drojf hi kf :) 11:08 mtompset If you wanted to change the font of h1#libraryname, how would you do it? 11:08 drojf mtompset: jquery maybe? 11:08 kf css? 11:08 wahanui well, css is probably easier 11:08 drojf probably ;) 11:09 mtompset Yes, I figured CSS. 11:09 kf but you know, fonts are not so easy 11:09 mtompset But for the life of me, I am dumbfounded. 11:09 kf you know that the font must be available on the computer viewing it? 11:09 mtompset The font on our webpage has reverted to the default, despite no CSS changes. 11:09 kf I think there are newer tricks around now, but haven't used one of those 11:09 kf which font did you use? 11:10 kf and did it really revert? are you looking at it from the same computer? 11:10 mtompset BlackJarRegular... it's not a normal font that is installed everywhere. 11:10 kf see... 11:10 mtompset Yes, it reverted. 11:10 kf you have it installed? did you install a newer version of your browser or changed the settings? 11:11 mtompset It works for my coworker. 11:11 kf ah 11:11 kf see 11:11 kf local 11:11 mtompset It stopped working for me. 11:11 kf I would say, font or browser settings 11:11 mtompset My co-worker is several hundred miles away. 11:11 mtompset He's never gone to the site before. 11:11 mtompset It stopped working for the users too. 11:14 mtompset Annoyingly, it's like the browser is loading the remote font, and then still decides to use default. 11:14 mtompset And it's not a browser thing, because I tried under IE and Firefox, and cleared both caches. 11:14 chinu hello 11:14 wahanui what's up, chinu 11:14 kf I think if you want to use a special font, it's probably easier to use a picture instead 11:14 kf safer 11:14 chinu i need answer for a Q 11:15 chinu have u used opac search 11:15 chinu ? 11:15 chinu opac search? 11:15 wahanui i guess opac search is good working for english biblios. i think only problem for mongolian. when i search mongolian than wrong results. 11:16 chinu how it serches? 11:16 kf chinu: what is your problem? 11:16 chinu u know about deatil? 11:16 kf wahanui: forget opac search? 11:16 wahanui kf: I forgot opac search 11:16 kf chinu: sorry, I can't help you if you don't have a more specific quesion 11:17 kf can you describe your problem? 11:18 eythian https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/status/232352317603713024 <-- drojf 11:18 chinu while searching which data it matches with query 11:18 chinu ? 11:19 kf eythian: you are mean, now I will have nightmares again 11:19 kf chinu: I am sorry, I don't understand. where are you from? 11:19 drojf eythian: lol excellent 11:21 chinu about opac-search u know? 11:22 drojf chinu: please try to explain a) what you are trying to do b) what is not working for you 11:24 chinu I want learn the perl program who searches for given query 11:25 chinu I am from computer science 11:25 eythian chinu: then you start with opac-search.pl and trace through it until you get to Search.pm 11:25 eythian (then you stop because you've started drinking) 11:26 drojf and then you have enough 11:26 drojf heh 11:26 * mtompset laughs. 11:26 chinu ??? 11:26 drojf you will understand once you looked at search.pm 11:26 chinu anybody from computer science? 11:27 eythian I have a masters degree in it... 11:28 kf ... and you don't dare to go into Search.pm? 11:28 eythian Nope. 11:28 eythian I just protest that computer science is all about the theory, not the implementation. 11:28 eythian And then go to the pub. 11:29 BobB hdl? 11:29 wahanui hdl is probably saying, who when where, how. 11:29 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_%26_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC 11:29 eythian BobB: he's having lunch right now 11:29 BobB hi eythian, are you at Biblibre now? 11:29 eythian Oui. 11:30 BobB ah, bien 11:30 BobB @later tell HDL thanks! I have let Irma know. 11:30 huginn BobB: The operation succeeded. 11:31 BobB eythian lunch must be good there. 11:31 BobB I like lunch. :) 11:31 eythian it is good here 11:32 eythian kf: in answer to the question: North Maharashtra University, Jalgaon, India 11:32 kf oh 11:32 kf thx 11:32 chinu how u get that I am from North Maharashtra university, Jalgaon, India? 11:33 eythian masters degree in computer science ;) 11:33 BobB LOL ! 11:34 chinu really tell me how? 11:34 chinu eythian? 11:34 wahanui eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence 11:34 chinu kf? 11:34 wahanui i heard kf was cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. 11:34 eythian http://youtu.be/hkDD03yeLnU <-- sorta like this 11:34 BobB shut up wahanui 11:35 eythian wahanui: shut up wahanui is <reply>$who is making me cry! 11:35 wahanui OK, eythian. 11:35 BobB shut up wahanui 11:35 wahanui BobB is making me cry! 11:36 hdl wahanui: forget hdl 11:36 wahanui hdl: I forgot hdl 11:36 BobB hi hdl 11:39 * mveron back from lunch 11:39 kf chinu: ip address I assume 11:39 mveron eythian: Thanks for the thanks above, welcome :-) 11:40 eythian kf: yep 11:43 kf hi nengard 11:43 nengard hello 11:45 mbalmer hi nengard 11:46 mbalmer nengard, say, I am writing an article about Koha, may I use your group picture from edinbrugh as an illustration? (magazine for swiss librarians) 11:46 nengard Of course you can. 11:50 mbalmer ok, many thanks! 11:54 mtompset Oh that was an overt demonstration of no knowledge on CSI's part. 11:59 mtompset Okay, perhaps cross site font downloads is the problem... let's try .... 12:03 mtompset Okay... so why don't cross-site font downloads work? 12:07 eythian probably something to do with security 12:08 eythian that's usually the reason cross-site <noun/verb> doesn't work 12:22 mtompset Their fonts! How can fonts be a security risk? 12:22 mtompset Do they have some evil pre-display hook? 12:27 eythian I think it's to prevent *ahem* <airquotes>stealing</airquotes> of fonts from other sites. 12:27 eythian If you set the Access-Control-Allow-Origin header, you can specify who is allowed to use them 12:27 kf @wunder Konstanz 12:27 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.0°C (2:25 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 12:32 oleonard Hi #koha 12:34 kf hi oleonard 12:34 kf :) 12:34 kf @wunder Konstanz 12:34 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.8°C (2:30 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 12:34 kf hm. it's raining huginn 12:35 eythian I hope huginn is not heavy, getting hit would but unpleasant 12:35 kf ? 12:35 eythian though, you'd think a raven would just fly. 12:35 eythian Well, you said it was raining huginn. 12:35 kf lol 12:36 jcamins Hehe. 12:38 mtompset Greetings, jcamins and oleonard . 12:42 mtompset @wunder MNL 12:42 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 23.0°C (8:00 PM PHT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). 12:42 mtompset Yep... that's about right. 12:42 mtompset It's a really loud rain. 12:45 kf hm rain in marseille, in Konstanz and in manila... who in #koha is to blame? :) 12:46 liw no rain in Manchester, UK 12:46 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 12:46 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.2°C (2:42 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). 12:46 oleonard Our rain was yesterday 12:46 eythian liw: I think maybe you're in the wrong UK 12:46 drojf it's sunny here actually 12:47 liw eythian, pfft, this is the right UK, it's that day of the month when it doesn't rain 12:47 eythian good old first-monday, eh. 13:02 * oleonard is more tired than he should be having not even stayed up late to watch a robot land on Mars 13:02 mtompset Greetings, tcohen 13:02 mtompset Greetings, ago43 13:04 tcohen hi mtompset 13:04 mtompset I'd look at my bugs list, but if I do that... I won't stop coding. 13:05 oleonard Hm, so suspending a hold doesn't exclude it from showing up in the holds queue report? That seems like a pretty major failure. 13:08 oleonard Bug 8419 13:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8419 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue 13:11 nengard oleonard bug 8412 is updated per your suggestions 13:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , add color icon set 13:12 jcamins nengard: is one of your libraries planning on using that? I don't think I've ever encountered a library willing to put that kind of time into noting the colors of books. 13:13 nengard jcamins nope, but I did read an article in a law library magazine about a library that does that 13:13 nengard and it doesn't really hurt anything to have the option there 13:13 jcamins No, it certainly doesn't. 13:13 nengard it is more likely to be used in a special library - law specifically - I think 13:14 nengard cause it's easy to bulk edit a bunch of items cause you know what color each series is :) 13:14 jcamins I was just amazed that someone was going to go back and retroactively fill all that out. 13:14 nengard I would be amazed if anyone did! 13:14 nengard in any way other than bulk editing 13:14 oleonard jcamins: This from the guy who added an option to allow libraries to scan and upload book covers ;) 13:15 * mtompset grins. 13:15 mtompset jcamins? 13:15 wahanui i guess jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins 13:15 mtompset That is going to haunt you for a long time, jcamins. :) 13:16 jcamins oleonard: there doesn't tend to be a lot of retrospective photography to do, if you're using that feature. 13:17 kf hm color bulk update feature using lists of scanned barcodes? :) 13:18 oleonard Now, just write an image-recognition bot to load OPAC results, average the color from book cover images, and set the color that way 13:18 kf but that's the cover color, not the spine color... 13:18 jcamins Or you have a digitization grant, I suppose. 13:18 jcamins However, I had forgotten how monotonous the colors of law books are... you have entire shelves that are all red or all green or the like. 13:26 eythian hey SQL people, why would these two queries give a different number of rows: http://paste.koha-community.org/73 and http://paste.koha-community.org/74 -- the only difference is the fields to select. 13:27 * mveron is about to sign-off Bug 5349 with 2 patches, but is stuck with the steps on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 13:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Moving an order 13:28 kf mveron: what is the problem? :) 13:28 mveron git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive What is this id? 13:29 kf ah 13:29 kf if you do git log 13:29 jcamins eythian: I have no idea. 13:29 kf the unreadable part 13:29 eythian jcamins: one gives 56, the other 106 (on the db I'm testing) 13:30 eythian I consider 56 to be the correct answer. 13:31 kf may I ask what it is you are trying to do? 13:31 mveron kf: Ok, I see some IDs... Reading helps. Reaing unreadable parts helps as well :-) 13:31 kf mveron: I was trying to find an example for you :) 13:31 kf didn't know how to describe it better 13:32 kf eythian: why all the unions? 13:32 eythian kf: to include the deleteditems and deletedbiblios 13:32 kf hmm 13:39 kf eythian: don't know why different results :( 13:41 eythian hmm, the longer ones appear to include duplicates from somewhere... 13:44 jwagner eythian, I think you're confusing it by trying to include biblionumber inside the union. 13:46 eythian the catch is, the real query has a ton of fields and gives me even more rows 13:48 kf hm 13:48 kf have you tried adding some parentheses? 13:52 eythian kf: no difference 13:52 kf yeah 13:52 kf I see the same in my database 13:52 kf using a different borrowernumer of course. 13:52 kf hmm. 13:53 kf hm 13:54 kf you could try to compare the results for each union separately 13:54 kf see where the difference comes from 13:55 eythian well. 13:55 eythian > select itemnumber from items where itemnumber in (select itemnumber from deleteditems); 13:55 eythian 30 rows in set (0.95 sec) 13:55 eythian that should not be the case. 13:56 kf uhoh 13:56 kf probably if you delete the last max itemnumber it gets reassigned? 13:56 eythian and 7 for the deletedbiblio 13:57 eythian no, the incrementer should always just increment 13:57 jcamins That doesn't sound good at all. 13:57 kf nope 13:58 kf thre goes my dream of undoing deletes in the near future... 14:03 mtompset Good day (24 hour period), #koha. MAybe tomorrow I'll get to work on Koha stuff. 14:04 mtompset That's why I don't really like autoincrementing fields myself, kf. 14:04 * mtompset waves bye. 14:04 kf eythian: share if you find out what's happening? I am curious what's wrong with that sql 14:04 eythian kf: nothing, I think 14:05 eythian I think it's that the data is weird. 14:05 eythian going to do more science on it though 14:05 kf eythian: I have the same here... an dmy data isn't weird :) 14:05 * kf believes in her data 14:26 * eythian heads to the station to book tickets. 14:29 tcohen hi #koha, is the cover image showing feature conditional to the existence of it? 14:30 tcohen i mena, we have a cover uploaded, will it still search for it in google (for example) 14:30 tcohen ? 14:30 oleonard Yes 14:31 oleonard If you have multiple image sources enabled Koha will try to show covers from each of them 14:36 tcohen oleonard, is that a bug or a feature? 14:36 tcohen http://ffyh.biblio.unc.edu.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=dialogo+filosofico 14:37 oleonard I consider it a bug. Bug 7187 I think matches 14:37 kf1 hm 14:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next 14:38 * jcamins agrees. 14:38 jcamins Definitely bug. 14:38 tcohen oleonard, thanks for pointing it 14:38 * jcamins is looking forward to kmkale's fixing of said bug. 14:38 oleonard jcamins: Do you know if kmkale has code in progress? 14:39 tcohen another question, would it be usefull to provide a daily circulation report on the circulation page? 14:39 jcamins oleonard: I do not. 14:39 tcohen i provided one to my librarians, and they are really missing it 14:39 oleonard tcohen: Someone tried something similar in Bug 6828 14:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6828 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, barry, Failed QA , Add Admin Dashboard for staff users. 14:39 tcohen so i'd implement it anyway 14:40 tcohen (since we went live with 3.8 stock) 14:40 tcohen i'll look at those bugs 14:41 tcohen thanks 14:46 tcohen how would #koha propose to achieve that priority thing in bug 7187? 14:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kmkale, NEW , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next 14:46 tcohen a | separated list of values? 14:46 jcamins tcohen: that'd be my preference. 14:46 tcohen a new <Service>Weight preference for each cover-provider? 14:46 jcamins I'd prefer the single list. 14:47 tcohen any other vote? 14:47 tcohen (i find it error-prone, but can't think of better solutions) 14:50 tcohen two prefs? one to choose a default and another to set it to traverse the activated services or just use the default? 14:52 jcamins That would work too. 14:55 tcohen is it ok to change the bug to origin/master ? 14:56 jcamins Yes, it should be versioned against master. 14:56 tcohen done 14:57 tcohen time to study that code :-D 15:00 oleonard I wonder if Google's TOS forbids caching book cover images 15:07 tcohen a web proxy is doing it for sure 15:10 tcohen Prohibitions on Content:... 15:10 tcohen Scrape, build databases or otherwise create permanent copies of such content, or keep cached copies longer than permitted by the cache header; 15:11 tcohen (Google TOS) 15:11 oleonard Yeah, I think it's the same for Amazon 15:11 tcohen do we have a place on the wiki to paste links to this relevant info? 15:12 oleonard Without caching you have to run through each of your cover image sources every time... very time-consuming. 15:12 tcohen oleonard, it depends 15:12 tcohen on your infrastructure 15:13 tcohen if you are on a university and have a transparent proxy... 15:13 oleonard I'm talking about out-of-the-box Koha 15:13 tcohen I agree 15:13 oleonard We should design it to be as efficient as we can all by itself 15:14 tcohen cd op 15:14 tcohen hehe, missed the terminal 15:17 gaetan_B do i need specific permissions to upload an image to the wiki ? 15:18 oleonard gaetan_B: I don't think so. Are you having trouble? 15:19 gaetan_B i'm trying to upload a cleaned up and vectorized logo on the wiki 15:19 gaetan_B i probably just can't find the right tool :-/ 15:20 oleonard gaetan_B: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Special:Upload 15:20 gaetan_B aaah tanks oleonard :) 15:20 gaetan_B s/tanks/thanks 15:21 oleonard gaetan_B: I see that link in the left-hand sidebar down towards the bottom 15:21 gaetan_B yes, somehow all these links had been pushed all the way to the bottom of the page when i clicked "edit" 15:21 gaetan_B now i see them :) 15:24 tcohen OPACAmazonCoverImages pref is not used in opac-detail.pl? 15:25 gaetan_B aah but you can't upload svg files it seems... too bad 15:26 oleonard Weird. Maybe it's a configuration thing which could be changed? 15:27 oleonard "Allow upload of SVG files in the LocalSettings.php file: $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg';" 15:28 oleonard http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Administration#Enable_upload_of_images 15:34 kf1 oleonard: I would think so 15:41 jcamins gaetan_B: could you please tell joubu to sign onto #koha? 15:42 jcamins I have a question for him about Moo. 15:42 gaetan_B jcamins: sorry he has already left ! 15:42 jcamins gaetan_B: ah well. 15:50 PRA How to upgrade koha 2.0.0 on redhat to koha 3.8 15:52 oleonard That's a big question to have answered in under one minute! 15:52 drojf PRA is still here, PR left ;) 15:53 jcamins PRA: that's going to be a bit of a challenge. There's a document on the wiki, I think. 15:53 oleonard Aside from the platform issues, isn't the process 2 -> 3 -> 3.8 ? 15:53 jcamins Yes, I think so. 15:54 * oleonard wonders if this is up to date: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 15:55 PRA ok. it's not possible. tell me how to export bibilo from koha 2.0 in *.mrc file? 15:55 jcamins No, it is possible. Just very difficult. 15:58 PRA Ok. How to export bibilo from KOHA 2.0 in marc forma? 15:58 * jcamins doesn't know, sorry. 15:58 drojf my guess is that is not possible 15:58 jcamins I started using Koha at 3.0.6/3.2. 16:03 rangi why im awake 16:03 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7426862/Mt-Tongariro-erupts-warning-for-North-Is-regions 16:04 rangi http://geonet.org.nz/images/volcano/drums/ch/wtvz/10/drum.png 16:05 PRA ok. thanks. 16:05 jcamins Wow. 16:10 jwagner rangi, where is Mt Tongariro -- is that one of the ones near Lake Taupo? 16:10 rangi yep 16:10 rangi the three of them there, normally it is ruapehu erupting 16:11 jwagner I saw them when I was touristing. They said the last eruption was in the 90s sometime? That would have been Ruapehu? 16:11 rangi yep 16:11 gaetan_B bye #koha, see you tomorrow ! 16:11 rangi ngaruhoe smokes a lot, but hasnt erupted in ages 16:11 rangi tongariro they thought was dormant 16:12 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8W_sGYAQlc <-- thats ruapehu 16:13 liw rangi, you live in a country with exiting geology! 16:13 rangi yes, and i crazily have alerts on my phone which wake me up 16:13 * rangi switches them off and goes back to sleep 16:13 jwagner I'd say "let me sleep until the lava gets near my house" :-) 16:13 oleonard Crazy like a fox who doesn't want to get covered in lava 16:17 * wizzyrea waves 16:17 * wizzyrea startles at the early rangi sighting 16:17 oleonard Because volcano wizzyrea! 16:17 wizzyrea I know! 16:17 wizzyrea CRAZY 16:21 oleonard How could one do original cataloging if Koha couldn't connect to MySQL? 16:21 * oleonard reading the Koha mailing list 16:21 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "Encrypting SIP2 Traffic with Koha http://t.co/N1MPpiiS via @wordpressdotcom #kohails" 16:21 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Encrypting SIP2 Traffic with Koha http://t.co/XxXfzq7V via @wordpressdotcom #kohails" 16:21 jcamins Yeah, I was wondering about that. 16:22 jcamins I am thinking maybe he was able to do it before. 16:23 jcamins (but couldn't if he tried now) 16:24 wizzyrea I'm rather surprised that he can do anything if he can't connect to mysql 16:24 jcamins wizzyrea: I think he couldn't do anything now. 16:25 jcamins I will respond once I finish what I'm working on. 16:25 wizzyrea you should let us peons answer that ;) 16:25 jcamins Heh. 16:36 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Managing Lists in the OPAC in Koha 3.4 http://t.co/0anXabI4" 17:01 wizzyrea oh, guess the latest SIP doesn't work with Overdrive - really need to get that set up to allow the line endings to be defined in the conf :/ 17:02 jcamins wizzyrea: yes. That's why it's not going into 3.6.x. 17:04 wizzyrea silly. 17:13 * oleonard can confirm that, unfortunately 17:20 wizzyrea ez fix tho :) 17:24 Callender Has anyone seen a problem in 3.08 where when going into the Guided Report Wizard and creating a New Definition, Step 3 is a blank page? I notice that the "Current Terms" section doesn't display either on the dictionary screen 17:24 jcamins Callender: the guided report wizard doesn't work at all. 17:24 jcamins Don't use it. 17:24 jcamins We should probably remove it. 17:25 Callender ok 17:26 wizzyrea hm i'm not having a problem with that actually 17:27 wizzyrea step 3 on both guided reports *and* the dictionary works for me 17:27 wizzyrea s/works/work 17:27 Callender I get nothing over here. I wonder if it's something with the DB when it's trying to grab those columns 17:27 wizzyrea what exact steps are you following? 17:28 wizzyrea the first question? 17:28 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" 17:28 wizzyrea the second question? 17:28 wahanui the second question is "What is the exact error message?" 17:28 wizzyrea the third question? 17:28 wahanui the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/find-version-koha-running/ 17:28 wizzyrea also, which version of 3.8? 17:29 Callender This one is, 3.08.00.001 17:29 wizzyrea ah, i'm looking at master 17:29 wizzyrea is an upgrade possible? 17:30 jcamins Yeah, using 3.8.0 is probably not such a good idea. 17:30 wizzyrea heh 17:30 wizzyrea that might be understatement ;) 17:30 jcamins wizzyrea: given that I feel doubtful about 3.8.3... yeah, it just might be. 17:30 wizzyrea 3.8.3 is pretty solid though 17:30 Callender Go to reports > Guided report wizard > View Dictionary > and at that point, I don't see the columns that should be there. If I go into create a new definition, getting to step 3.. just a blank screen. 17:31 wizzyrea WFM :) 17:31 Callender lets hold off then for me, I'll upgrade this system 17:31 wizzyrea cool beans :) 17:31 Callender and I'll see if that takes care of it 17:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "How Koha 3.8 Handles Lost Statuses http://t.co/ndov7R4T #kohails" 17:31 wizzyrea it's really likely it'll be better 17:31 wizzyrea I kind of remember this bug 17:31 wizzyrea sorta 17:31 * wizzyrea has slept since then 17:31 Callender thanks guys.. and gals! :) 17:32 * wizzyrea salutes Callender "anytime!" 18:09 * tcohen is wondering how to acknowledge that his work on Koha is sponsored by UNC 18:09 jcamins Sponsored-by: University N... Cordoba. :) 18:09 jcamins I sent an e-mail to koha-devel about this. 18:09 tcohen in the patch comment? 18:10 cait jcamins: maybe put it in the coding guidelines as an option? 18:10 jcamins cait: I think I did. 18:10 jcamins tcohen: yup. 18:10 jcamins I'll check. 18:11 tcohen found it 18:12 jcamins I guess it's not in the coding guidelines. Adding now. 18:12 tcohen some time in the future, i'd need my bosses to see it as my contract says any work I do belongs to the University 18:13 tcohen 'belongs' in the sense of meaning the university has commited some work to an open source project 18:14 tcohen not in the sense of IP and that stuff 18:15 tcohen is it clear what I mean jcamins? 18:15 jcamins tcohen: yeah, that's what Sponsored-by is for. 18:15 tcohen thanks! 18:15 jcamins I was just editing the coding guidelines. 18:16 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Good_commit_message 18:17 tcohen great jcamins 18:18 tcohen the missing bit would be setting the commit message editor to insert that automagically 18:19 jcamins Yeah, if you only have the one client you could certainly do that. 18:19 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails How Koha 3.8 Handles Lost Statuses http://t.co/GVjbtqs6" 18:19 jcamins Though- it would be a problem for signing off. 18:20 tcohen u r right 18:20 jcamins git config --global commit.template $HOME/.gitmessage.txt 18:20 jcamins git++ # git is totally awesome 18:20 jcamins tcohen: http://git-scm.com/book/ch7-1.html 18:21 * oleonard uses that trick to preface each commit with "And so it came to pass..." 18:22 wizzyrea LOL 18:23 wizzyrea our commit messages could be so much more epic 18:23 wizzyrea AND SO IT CAME TO PASS THAT "bug 1398 - blah blah blah EPIC WIN" 18:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1398 normal, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED INVALID, Branch management not working with returns 18:23 jcamins lol 18:30 tcohen is it ok to require LIB ; import LIB 18:30 tcohen or is it better to use LIB ? 18:31 jcamins use LIB is generally better, I think. 18:31 tcohen i'm revisiting opac-detail.pl 18:31 tcohen and found both used 18:32 jcamins Hehe. I'm not surprised. 18:32 jcamins We prefer use. 18:32 jcamins Usually. 18:32 tcohen i think amazon and syndetics stuff should be loaded the same way bakertaylor stuff is 18:32 jcamins Agreed. 18:32 tcohen which checks for the syspref prior to loading the libs 18:33 tcohen but... bakertaylor uses that require ; import 18:33 tcohen schema 18:33 * jcamins doesn't really know much about it. If your patch works, though, I'll sign off. :) 18:34 jcamins The cover code, though, is all javascript. 18:34 tcohen haha 18:34 jcamins So far as I know. 18:34 tcohen yes 18:34 tcohen but... needs those variables set from the .pl 18:35 tcohen i'll continue to study that code, and guess i'll ask oleonard for some help 18:35 tcohen :-D 18:48 wizzyrea @marc 500 18:48 huginn wizzyrea: General information for which a specialized 5XX note field has not been defined. (Repeatable) [a,3,5,6,8] 19:14 mbalmer @marc balmer 19:14 huginn mbalmer: unknown tag balmer 19:14 mbalmer heh ;) 19:22 mveron @wunder Basel 19:22 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 17.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 19:23 wizzyrea @wunder 66049 19:23 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.5°C (2:21 PM CDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 19:23 wizzyrea ! seriously? yesterday it was in the 80's 19:24 wizzyrea well, 25C ish 19:25 oleonard @wunder 45701 19:25 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 30.6°C (2:50 PM EDT on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 19:27 mbalmer someone should change the topic to "Koha - The Weather Channel" 19:28 nengard is anyone around (oleonard maybe) who can explain what doc changes I need to make per bug 8392 19:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8392 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Stable , Memberentry is not enforcing birthdate restrictions 19:28 nengard Do I need to say that the birthday limit is only checked if that field is mandatory? 19:28 oleonard Yes 19:28 nengard or recommend that the birthday be made required if you want Koha to enforce the age limit 19:29 nengard oops .. yes which? 19:29 oleonard It will only check the birthdate limit if the field is mandatory 19:29 nengard got it 19:29 nengard thanks! 19:29 cait oleonard: I don't like that much :( 19:30 cait but I know it was not you :) 19:30 oleonard cait: How would it handle empty birthdates if the field was not mandatory? 19:30 cait not check 19:31 cait so you coul give the birthdate for not adult patrons 19:31 cait but leave it empty for adult patrons 19:32 oleonard You'd have to create a new preference to define which categories of patrons should require age enforcement 19:32 nengard i'm with cait 19:32 nengard but understand why it was done this way 19:32 nengard and now the manual reflects that :) 19:32 cait oleonard: the problem is that I was told dates of birth are sensitive data - most of our libraries don't store it at all 19:33 nengard so you could just not store it and not use the upper or minimum age limites 19:33 cait yes 19:33 cait but it would be nice to use it when needed :) 19:34 cait but it's really not a big deal, only a bit grumpy tonight 19:34 cait :) 19:35 jcamins cait++ # for fixing my unit test 19:35 cait lol - I only asked some stupid questions comparing to pieces of code :) 19:43 rangi Morning again 19:43 nengard good afternoon :) 19:44 jcamins You missed me flipping out about a unit test. 19:44 rangi Heh darn shall I read the logs? 19:44 nengard oh - jcamins - the training I just did was with an authorities fanatic she wanted so very many many more changes to authorities 19:44 jcamins No, mostly cait had to suffer. 19:44 nengard and I kept saying well we have an expert working on improving things 19:44 nengard :) 19:45 jcamins nengard: I'm not surprised. If you have a list I'd love to see it. 19:45 nengard i did report a bunch to calm her down 19:45 nengard mainly the lack of browse was a big deal 19:45 jcamins Ah, yeah, true browse is very problematic. 19:45 nengard the fact that you can't add an authority right from cataloging - you have to go out to authorities to create (unless you want Koha to create it for you based on what you type) 19:45 jcamins I didn't see that bug. 19:45 jcamins It's a duplicate. 19:46 jcamins I already implemented that. :P 19:46 nengard then the authority searching - the fact that united states -- encycopedia was getting too broad of results for her 19:46 nengard which did you do? the add authority in cataloging? 19:46 nengard bug #? 19:46 wahanui i think bug # is there 19:47 jcamins Bug 8208. 19:47 wahanui bug 8208 is, like, almost done 19:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin 19:47 nengard hehe 19:47 nengard awesome! 19:47 nengard I'll email the director over there with that one 19:47 nengard of course they're not on master yet, but they'll be happy to see it 19:48 jcamins As for the search, that'll be helped by bug 8206. 19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add additional search options to authority browser in OPAC 19:48 jcamins Which actually impacts the staff client, too. 19:48 jcamins It adds consistent options, including access to heading-match, which is what she wants. 19:51 nengard email sent 19:51 nengard I told them that you were working hard and that new stuff was coming all of the time 19:52 jcamins They should take a look at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_&_P_Authority_Control_Improvements_RFC 19:52 nengard I also got another library complaining about Koha's cataloging interface - shocker! 19:52 jcamins nengard: no! 19:52 rangi Bug 7417 is a good one too 19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches 19:52 rangi I get that all the time 19:53 rangi What's this MARC crap? 19:53 jcamins rangi: that's the one with the unit tests that were receiving many creative expletives. 19:53 jcamins I switched to DBD::Mock. 19:53 jcamins And DBD::Mock said "oh yeah? Just you try!" 19:53 nengard rangi i think we found that one while i was there 19:53 jcamins It was an epic battle. 19:54 jcamins I was losing, until cait told me to add a history check. 19:54 rangi Hehe 19:54 rangi Oh my blog was good for something! 19:54 jcamins At which point I discovered that the call to C4::Context->preference('marcflavour') was retrieving marcxml. 19:55 jcamins Yeah, but I liked the old layout a lot better. 19:55 rangi I might switch back 19:56 jcamins Good. 19:56 jcamins You should. 19:57 rangi Hehe 19:57 rangi I like the photo of kahu though 19:59 jcamins Take out the Twitter updates a couple of the other sidebars? 19:59 cait I liked the really old one best 20:00 cait but the last one is way better than what you have now :) 20:00 * cait hides 20:00 rangi Hehe 20:00 rangi I'm not fragile, I can change it 20:01 oleonard Can/does Koha log what Koha user performs the transaction when checking something out? 20:01 rangi I'll switch when I get to work 20:01 jcamins oleonard: I think so. Isn't that circ log? 20:01 rangi Hmm I thought so 20:04 oleonard I have IssueLog turned on, but when I check the modification log of a book which is checked out, I get nothing 20:04 jcamins Ummm... 20:04 rangi Hmm not modification log, it should be circ log 20:05 jcamins was there a bug about this recently? 20:05 jcamins I have a vague recollection. 20:05 rangi Changing numbers ... Not sure it was pushed tho 20:05 cait I know it does log it - ony not sure how to access from within koha 20:06 cait I used it to check which checkouts were done using the self check :) 20:06 rangi In the log viewer I think if you just view the circ log? 20:07 rangi The bug is it stores biblionumber not itemnumber 20:07 rangi Iirc 20:08 oleonard ...so it can't show the checkout history because biblionumber doesn't get you anything 20:08 rangi Yep 20:08 rangi But u can find it in the log 20:09 rangi You might want to try the patch 20:09 oleonard Do you know the bug? 20:09 wahanui it has been said that the bug is that if you scan the barcode on the circ page you aren't allowed to renew it that way 20:09 * rangi always looks for a signoff angle 20:10 rangi Not off the top of my head 20:10 jcamins Bug 7241. 20:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 20:10 jcamins Found it. :) 20:10 cait ah 20:10 cait you were faster :( 20:11 * oleonard had looked at that bug earlier, hoped fredericd was going to sign off since he seemed anxious for it to be pushed 20:13 * oleonard zips into his testing jacket 20:13 jcamins Ugh. 20:13 jcamins My tests no longer cover 100% of the files. 20:14 cait :) 20:14 jcamins Why is that? 20:14 rangi I think he is on vacation too 20:14 cait oleonard: does it have built in airbags? 20:14 jcamins Test coverage was at 100%. 20:14 jcamins Then I fiddled with things. 20:14 cait jcamins: scandalous - go and write more tests! 20:14 rangi Heh 20:15 rangi @wunder nzwn 20:15 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on August 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising). 20:15 rangi My stop brb 20:16 jcamins Oh, I see. 20:16 jcamins I inadvertantly mocked one of the subroutines. 20:17 wizzyrea you should apologize 20:17 jcamins Hehe. 20:17 wizzyrea you are going to hurt its feelings 20:22 * oleonard doesn't see anything new in action_logs 20:22 rangi back 20:23 jcamins Actually, no, I think the problem is that I misunderstood how Devel::Cover works. 20:24 magnuse @wunder boo 20:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on August 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 20:25 magnuse g'night #koha ;-) 20:25 jcamins That was part of the problem. 20:25 oleonard Oh wait yes I do. I guess it is working 20:25 rangi night magnuse 20:26 ExtraordinaryBen Hello, I'm helping my Library get Koha setup as their new ILS. I've got it up and running, but it doesn't seem to be remembering anything. (Library is always not set, etc.) Any help would be appreciated. ;) 20:26 jcamins ExtraordinaryBen: you should never log in as the database administrative user. 20:26 cait ExtraordinaryBen: you need to create real staff accounts - don't work with the root user 20:27 cait to do that, create a branch, a patron category with category staff and add a new patron - and then give it permissions from more in the toolbar 20:27 ExtraordinaryBen Okay, awesome. many thanks. (Ugh, knew it must have been something simple.) 20:28 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7426862/Mt-Tongariro-erupts-for-first-time-in-over-100-years <-- yuck 20:29 cait ExtraordinaryBen: :) 20:29 wizzyrea ewww 20:29 wizzyrea poor horses 20:29 rangi heh 20:29 rangi A few locals did drive to the Hirangi Marae in Turangi but most just stood and watched the spectacular show. 20:29 rangi "It's a volcano. If it goes. It will go. We'll all be vapourised. Ruapehu and Ngauruhoe have erupted regularly over the years. Now it is Tongariro's turn." 20:43 kathryn g'morning 20:43 jcamins http://screencast.com/t/Dz9fFKCfHIKa <-- this is what the coverage report should look like. 20:44 jcamins (no unit tests were run for code in C4::) 20:44 jcamins Good morning, kathryn. 20:44 kathryn :) 20:44 rangi jcamins: nice ;) 20:45 cait hi kathryn :) 20:45 kathryn hi cait :D 20:45 cait :) 20:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #125 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:55 jcamins Hey. 20:55 jcamins It seems to me that Net::ZOOM should have some unit tests. 20:55 * jcamins goes looking for them. 20:55 jcamins Or ZOOM. 20:55 jcamins Or whatever we use. 20:57 jcamins Well... 20:57 jcamins huh. 20:57 jcamins Was anyone else expecting the ZOOM test suite to pass? 20:58 rangi it fails on the connection to a test server, the test server is dead 20:58 rangi well thats what fialed for me last time 20:58 jcamins It's failing on scan. 20:59 jcamins Huh. 21:08 gmcharlt rangi: would I be correct in making a wild guess that 8181 is not a candidate for backporting to 3.8.x? 21:08 rangi lemme look 21:08 jcamins bug 8181 21:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version 21:08 cait night all 21:09 rangi im currently picking stuff out of the Passed QA queue, that are bug fixes, for 3.8.x (since nothing is going into master for 3 weeks) 21:09 gmcharlt asking mostly because one of its side-effects is fixing some breakage introduced by the patch for 2780 21:09 cait bug 2780 21:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Capitalize strings consistently 21:10 rangi probably not, unless i got another sign off 21:10 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8181#c12 21:10 huginn 04Bug 8181: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace DynArch calendar widget with jQueryUI version 21:10 rangi doesnt fill me full of confidence 21:11 gmcharlt rangi: yeah, that's what I thought 21:15 jcamins Is there any way in Perl to create an object that will automagically create any accessors it is called with, and return the same thing? 21:15 jcamins (no matter what the accessor) 21:16 rangi im sure there is, but my brain is not telling me how 21:17 jcamins Yeah, my brain decided that was too much thinking, so we moved on to plan b. 21:20 rangi jcamins: i cant get the patch for bug 8581 to apply on master 21:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8581 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority display doesn't like GND records 21:20 rangi atal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/authorities-search-results.inc). 21:20 rangi Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. 21:20 rangi Cannot fall back to three-way merge 21:21 jcamins rangi: did you apply bug 3462 first? 21:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Link see alsos in authorities 21:21 rangi ahh probably not 21:22 * rangi does 21:23 rangi ah yep that was it 21:24 rangi ohh easy peasy change 21:25 jcamins Yeah. There's more needed, but that was the first thing I noticed. 21:33 rangi signed off 21:34 jcamins Okay... 21:35 jcamins Putting multiple packages in one file screws up Test::MockModule. 21:35 * jcamins wasn't expecting that. 21:36 rangi why would we do that? 21:36 rangi running out of filehandles? :) 21:38 jcamins We wouldn't. 21:38 jcamins IndexData would. 21:38 rangi ahhh 21:38 rangi maybe filehandles cost more in denmark 21:39 mgeist Have a good evening all 21:39 rangi cya mgeist 21:40 jcamins Okay, got around that issue. 21:41 jcamins ... for one brief, shining moment. 21:42 jcamins Wait. 21:42 jcamins I can do better than this. 21:43 jcamins How do you do a switch statement in Perl? 21:44 jcamins The non-deprecated, non-experimental way. 21:44 rangi i dont 21:44 jcamins Okay. 21:44 * jcamins continues writing his ifelse statement. 21:44 rangi but i think its given/when 21:45 rangi which was added in 5.10 21:45 jcamins No, that's experimental. There's another syntax which is allowed. 21:45 rangi for 21:45 rangi http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Switch-Statements 21:46 rangi The foreach is the non-experimental way to set a topicalizer. I 21:46 jcamins Thanks. 21:48 jcamins Bwahahaha!!!! 21:48 * jcamins figures out how to trick ZOOM into thinking it has Zebra. 21:48 rangi :) 21:49 jcamins Okay... this leaves one slight problem. How do I get the kohaclone directory from a test. 21:49 rangi hmm? 21:49 rangi config? 21:49 wahanui well, config is still wrong. 21:51 jcamins But that's presupposing that I have a koha-conf.xml. 21:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #125: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/125/ 21:56 * jcamins learns about XS. 21:56 jenkins_koha robin: Bug 8391: prevent error when viewing circ history with bad dates 21:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8391 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , Cannot view reading record through staff client 21:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #126 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:52 martian523 i have a question about fines, it seems like it's not working 22:52 martian523 a book is overdue, but fine is not showing up 22:53 rangi what version of koha, and have you set up your rules? and have the cron job running, and have the fines mode set to calculate and charge? 22:53 martian523 version 3.8.1 22:53 martian523 set up my rules, 22:53 martian523 not sure about cron job 22:54 martian523 btw, i'm not an IT person 22:54 rangi ah, how did you install? 22:54 rangi or how did your it person install, using the debian packages? or from the tarball? 22:54 martian523 yeah 22:54 martian523 debian 22:54 rangi from http://debian.koha-community.org/ ? 22:55 martian523 maybe 22:55 rangi you will need to know for sure, either way, your IT person needs to check the cron job for the fines is running 22:55 martian523 i just found out about the cron job for email notices since i haven't received any automatic email notices 22:55 rangi and you need to check in systempreferences 22:55 rangi to see what finesmode is set to 22:56 martian523 we're still in the testing process 22:56 rangi ah well they wont be charging unless you set them to :) 22:56 rangi also, if you are still in testing, definitely upgrade to 3.8.3 22:57 rangi lots and lots of bugs fixed between 3.8.1 and 3.8.3 22:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #126: SUCCESS in 1 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/126/ 22:58 jenkins_koha tomascohen: Bug 8251 - Follow up, use 'day' instead of 'days' for Datetime::truncate 22:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin 23:01 martian523 thanks 23:02 rangi if it was installed using debian.koha-community.org it should be a simple apt-get upgrade 23:03 martian523 ok, i'll tell IT to look into that 23:04 rangi that was the most succesful mibbit interaction ever 23:17 rangi jcamins: do you have a 3.6.7 install up and running anywhere? 23:19 jcamins Depends what you want me to check. ;) 23:20 rangi just try editing a notice 23:20 rangi its not saving for me, and im pretty sure im running a stock 3.6.7 .. so wanted a second confirmation 23:22 jcamins Hm. 23:22 jcamins It worked for me. 23:22 rangi dangit 23:22 jcamins tools/letter.pl? 23:22 rangi :) 23:22 rangi yeah 23:22 rangi well thats good in a way :) 23:23 rangi thanks for checking 23:25 jcamins You're welcome. 23:27 rangi out of date en-nz templates, that was the problem 23:56 Judit good morning