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mib_jtzy1e |
ok |
00:02 |
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rangi |
id have a look on the wiki |
00:02 |
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rangi |
wiki? |
00:02 |
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wahanui |
wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
00:02 |
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rangi |
and see if someone else has started :) |
00:03 |
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rangi |
also |
00:03 |
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rangi |
bugs? |
00:03 |
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wahanui |
bugs is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too. |
00:03 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
how about for a built in digital repository |
00:04 |
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rangi |
there has been some talk of that |
00:04 |
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Judit |
good morning |
00:05 |
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rangi |
however im off the opinion that there are already good floss digital repositories out there |
00:05 |
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rangi |
so best to make it work well with them |
00:05 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
yes we have inspected Dspace |
00:05 |
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rangi |
fedora/fez i like too |
00:05 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
cool |
00:05 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
i will look at that |
00:06 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
i am fairly new to the koha world and I am not much of a programmer, but what would suggest I do if I wanted to start learning to program for koha |
00:06 |
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rangi |
do you know much perl? |
00:06 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
no |
00:07 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
i learn languages fairly quickly when I use them |
00:07 |
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rangi |
id start off with the learning perl book, you'll rip through that fast |
00:07 |
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rangi |
once you have the basic concepts .. then doing some unit tests is a good way to learn the code base |
00:07 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
awesome |
00:07 |
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mib_jtzy1e |
thank you |
00:31 |
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rangi |
oh hey Judit :) |
00:31 |
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rangi |
just realised i didnt say hi |
00:32 |
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Judit |
hi rangi how is winter treating you guys |
00:33 |
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rangi |
pretty mild actually, rainy but not cold at all |
00:33 |
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rangi |
no snow like last year :) |
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01:07 |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
01:07 |
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rangi |
afternoon :) |
01:08 |
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Judit |
haha |
01:08 |
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Judit |
monring |
01:08 |
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rangi |
moonring to you too |
01:09 |
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dcook |
Gotta love the diversity of timezones :D |
01:11 |
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Judit |
this is just reminds me of this: http://www.choice.com.au/media[…]ice%20divide.aspx |
01:25 |
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dcook |
I don't suppose anyone knows if it's possible to include a default value in the jQuery Datatables select list? |
01:26 |
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dcook |
In other words, for "holds to pull", to have the user's branch be the default rather than "none" |
01:26 |
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rangi |
no idea sorry |
01:26 |
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rangi |
but id expect yes |
01:27 |
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dcook |
No worries. I'm thinking so too. I just hope it doesn't involve too much code additions |
01:27 |
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dcook |
too many * |
01:27 |
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rangi |
you'd need to set seomthing in the template, that the jquery can use to know the users branch of course |
01:27 |
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dcook |
Mhm |
01:27 |
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dcook |
I suppose it would be easy enough to do that after the table is drawn |
01:28 |
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dcook |
But it would look a little sloppy to have JS choosing the branch after |
01:28 |
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dcook |
Hmm |
01:29 |
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* dcook |
digs a bit more |
01:38 |
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02:40 |
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dcook |
Partial success! |
02:52 |
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dcook |
Total success! |
03:47 |
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rangi |
woot |
03:48 |
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rangi |
http://paste.koha-community.org/58 |
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cait |
good morning #koha |
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04:26 |
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mtj |
wow, that test is next-level |
04:26 |
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mtj |
is it the first Test::MockModule test for koha, ever? |
04:29 |
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mtj |
the other thing i've just clicked to is... |
04:29 |
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mtj |
all our Koha db testing code could (or should?) be replaced with a DBD::Mock database? |
04:30 |
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mtj |
... which removes the problem of people having to set up a 'test' db, with mysql user-perms and such |
04:30 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
04:30 |
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mtj |
(which they usually never do, or do correctly)... and get a bunch of failed db tests |
04:31 |
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mtj |
hi mtompset |
04:33 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, mtj |
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mtompset |
Cool! jcamins_away found a sources.list generator. Great! He'll be able to test to his heart's content once the script is polished up some more. :) |
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rangi |
mtj: thats the plan |
05:08 |
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rangi |
im hoping to teach the 2 academy kids how to do that |
05:12 |
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cait |
rangi++ academy_kids++ |
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rangi |
hey bartjorgensen |
05:14 |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter/HTML_Report/? |
05:15 |
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rangi |
http://paste.koha-community.org/59 |
05:19 |
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mtj |
rangi: -> http://dash.kohaaloha.com .... work for you ? |
05:19 |
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cait |
does for me |
05:20 |
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mtj |
thanks cait - i had some 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' problems, that i've hopefully fixed |
05:21 |
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cait |
not sure what that means, but I see a dashboard :) |
05:21 |
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cait |
are you planning to enhance it? |
05:21 |
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mtj |
yep, thats the plan :) |
05:21 |
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mtj |
... just setting up a dev instance |
05:23 |
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mtj |
hey bart - long time, no see |
05:26 |
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mtj |
and on that successfully note, i'm off.... |
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05:27 |
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mtj |
ciao cait - have a great day :) |
05:29 |
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cait |
good night mtj :) |
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rangi |
hey its jorgia ! |
05:33 |
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jorgia |
bartjorgensen, hows it going ? :) |
05:49 |
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mezwor |
Hi all |
05:51 |
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mezwor |
3what are the advantages and disadvatges of installing koha via Git or .tar file? |
05:53 |
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mezwor |
3any1 there? |
05:55 |
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cait |
it depends on what you want to do |
05:55 |
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cait |
will you be developing? |
05:55 |
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cait |
do you want to customize the code you run in production (which is not strictly recommendable)? |
06:02 |
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mtompset |
which install to use?\ |
06:05 |
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mtompset |
which install to use? |
06:05 |
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wahanui |
If you're developing, you should use git. If you're not developing on a deb-based system, you should use packages. If you're not developing on a different flavour of Linux, you should use the tarball. |
06:07 |
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mtompset |
(packages = koha-common, etc.) |
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pastebot |
"rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "testing paste" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60 |
06:11 |
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mezwor |
3I want to use for production env |
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mezwor |
3Cait: Yes no detail customization only changing the look and feel |
06:14 |
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alex_a |
bonjour ! |
06:15 |
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cait |
git is mostly good if you want to develop |
06:15 |
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pastebot |
"jorgia" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "testing" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/61 |
06:15 |
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cait |
mezwor: why are you not using the packages? it's a third option and easier than the tarball |
06:15 |
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mezwor |
3You guys are suggesting to use tarball for production env |
06:16 |
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cait |
mezwor: suggesting you use the debian or ubuntu packages for Koha |
06:16 |
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cait |
packages? |
06:16 |
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wahanui |
packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
06:16 |
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mezwor |
3I use Debian mostly |
06:18 |
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mezwor |
3cait: packages, does the link provide all the necessary packages ? |
06:21 |
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cait |
the link provides instrustions |
06:21 |
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cait |
instructions |
06:21 |
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wahanui |
instructions are coming right now to the wiki near you |
06:22 |
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mezwor |
3Ya I got it, it is really helpful |
06:22 |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
06:23 |
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mezwor |
3Cait: Thanks I got it, I understand what you mean. |
06:24 |
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mezwor |
3Any idea on how to make the OPAC online - I mean DNS , Domain issues |
06:24 |
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mezwor |
3And which file I have to edit to dos so ... |
06:25 |
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mezwor |
3And which file configuration I have to edit to do so ... |
06:25 |
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mezwor |
3Cait: any idea ... |
06:26 |
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cait |
mezwor: these are not really koha questions |
06:26 |
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cait |
koha is not different to other things you run on servers |
06:27 |
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mezwor |
3I think there is a configuration issue to make OPAC available online so ... |
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cait |
you will need to look at apache |
06:28 |
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cait |
and your virtualhosts for koha |
06:28 |
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mtompset |
The instructions do contain some instructions on that. |
06:29 |
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* mtompset |
just realized how recursively weird that sounded. |
06:29 |
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cait |
heh |
06:29 |
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rangi |
Well that was productive from an empty ubuntu. To working koha installs from packages then switching the config to use the git clone in less than 2 hours |
06:30 |
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mezwor |
3Ya I did it, both staff and OPAC interface works fine in my localhost now I want to make OPAC online |
06:30 |
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rangi |
And we even wrote 3 new tests |
06:31 |
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cait |
woot |
06:31 |
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cait |
mezwor: then the question is probably if your server is reachable from the outside |
06:31 |
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mezwor |
3And I think there exists a configuration issue rlated to DNS and Domain name in koha, am I wrong? |
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francharb |
hi |
06:33 |
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rangi |
They are coming back next week to do some more, but are planning to do some from home too |
06:33 |
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rangi |
Hi francharb |
06:33 |
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francharb |
0/ rangi |
06:35 |
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cait |
rangi: sounds awesome |
06:35 |
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mezwor |
3Any help on what to do after successful installation of koha to make the OPAC live |
06:36 |
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mezwor |
3Cait: if apache was not configured properly, could I have access for staff and opac interface locally? |
06:36 |
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cait |
it's about your server I think - I am not a system administrator, so someone else might be more able to help you here. but it's really not a koha specific problem I think. |
06:37 |
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cait |
no it looks like what you have works. but you may have to change something if you want to access it from outside of the computer koha is running on |
06:37 |
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mezwor |
3How about the link you gave me earlier it says something about DNS |
06:38 |
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rangi |
That's not koha that's dns |
06:38 |
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rangi |
Ie a networking thing, not koha specific |
06:39 |
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mezwor |
3ok , sorry I think I am stupid about it |
06:40 |
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rangi |
Ie you need to be able to access your server from the network |
06:40 |
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rangi |
If you can access locally koha is ok |
06:40 |
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rangi |
The rest is network/apache setup |
06:41 |
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* rangi |
hopes that's helpful |
06:41 |
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mezwor |
3rangi: can you help on that? |
06:41 |
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mezwor |
3Just instructions |
06:41 |
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rangi |
No it will be specific to your set up |
06:42 |
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rangi |
I would tell you the wrong things |
06:42 |
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mezwor |
3means ? |
06:42 |
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mezwor |
3If you can help on general issues I will cascade it ... please |
06:43 |
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rangi |
Means no I can't help with that |
06:43 |
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mezwor |
3ok |
06:43 |
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mezwor |
3 10Q |
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reiveune |
hello |
06:47 |
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rangi |
Hmm is tweetbot dead? |
06:47 |
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rangi |
Hi reiveune |
06:48 |
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rangi |
Also DBD::Mock rules |
06:49 |
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cait |
it looks not too hard to copy from the unit test you attached |
06:49 |
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cait |
hope to see more exampls :) |
06:49 |
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cait |
brb |
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mtompset |
That is sweet. It will help Koha be more clean regardless of backend used. |
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julian_m |
hello |
07:03 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
07:06 |
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dcook_away |
allo gaetan_B :) |
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asaurat |
hello |
07:14 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, julian_m gaetan_B asaurat and dcook_away |
07:14 |
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julian_m |
hello mtompset |
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dcook_away |
hey mtompset |
07:22 |
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wahanui |
i guess mtompset is a human being in the Philippines, and is having musical flashbacks. |
07:24 |
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mtompset |
wahanui forget mtompset |
07:24 |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot mtompset |
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mtompset |
.msg wahanui mtompset? |
07:26 |
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mtompset |
Oops... :) |
07:28 |
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mtompset |
There... much better. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kf. |
07:28 |
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* dcook_away |
swears that he sees a new bug every time he looks at Koha these days... |
07:28 |
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kf |
dcook_away: it's normal sometimes, don't worry, it will work out |
07:28 |
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kf |
dcook_away: but file them :) |
07:28 |
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mtompset |
They aren't bugs. They are unintentional features. ;) |
07:29 |
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dcook_away |
lol |
07:29 |
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dcook_away |
nice one, mtompset :p |
07:29 |
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dcook_away |
Good call, kf. It's 5:27pm but I want to fix it.. |
07:30 |
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kf |
I think documenting htem is really the first step to make things better |
07:30 |
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kf |
and to make people aware |
07:30 |
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dcook_away |
Hmm, true enough! |
07:30 |
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* dcook_away |
patters away to bugzilla |
07:36 |
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kf |
dcook++ :) |
07:37 |
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dcook_away |
:) |
07:37 |
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dcook_away |
Bug 8508. I think it might have to wait until tomorrow... |
07:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8508 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds to Pull : jQuery datatable dropdown not displaying correctly when an item can be pulled from multiple libraries |
07:38 |
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kf |
the filing or the fixing? |
07:39 |
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kf |
:) |
07:41 |
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dcook_away |
The fixing ;) |
07:41 |
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dcook_away |
Actually, I'm still just learning jQuery, so it might take a little while. |
07:50 |
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kf |
dcook_away: also fixing the bugs you file is perfect - but you can also file stuff you don't intend to fix and you stumble upoon |
07:53 |
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dcook_away |
I have done that on a couple of occasions :). In this case, I've been doing a lot of work on the Holds Pull List, so it makes sense to keep plugging away at it |
07:54 |
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mtompset |
But, kf, if you leave it for someone else to do, it won't get done as fast. |
07:54 |
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mtompset |
Generally speaking. |
07:54 |
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dcook_away |
I'll just read up on how jquery datatables works tomorrow. I almost wonder if there are spaces rather than <br> tags that jquery might interpret them as separate pieces of data and thus break them into different strings to make different options |
07:55 |
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mtompset |
Also, if you find it, that means the library group you are working with are probably aware of it and want it fixed yesterday. |
07:55 |
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kf |
mtompset: true, but undocumented bugs are super evil - documentation is the first step always |
07:55 |
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dcook_away |
I'm definitely in agreement with kf |
07:55 |
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kf |
we also encourage libraries to file bugs |
07:55 |
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mtompset |
Yes. |
07:55 |
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dcook_away |
I have a tendency to sometimes hold off on the bug report until I already have a patch |
07:56 |
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dcook_away |
But it makes sense just to report it and then patch it when you can, even if it is immediately |
07:56 |
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mtompset |
Bug file first... treat bugzilla like a TODO list. :) |
07:56 |
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kf |
dcook_away: you can assign yourself to the bug and add a note you are working on it |
07:56 |
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dcook_away |
Mmm, good one, kf |
07:56 |
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kf |
sometimes you will miss a duplicate bug |
07:56 |
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kf |
so a bug report can prevent doubled up work |
07:57 |
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kf |
and also someone might have an idea about the problem or a solution in mind |
07:57 |
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mtompset |
True. marcel caught a duplicate for me. :) |
07:58 |
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mtompset |
Certain was glad when I realized I didn't have to do anything because the attached patch on the other looked like it included the thing I caught. |
08:00 |
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mtompset |
The nice thing about the bugzilla as a TODO list, someone MAY actually do part of it. :) |
08:01 |
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kf |
yep |
08:01 |
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kf |
you pick on more people*s minds than only your own :) |
08:01 |
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kf |
and now I have a meeting :) |
08:02 |
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dcook_away |
Blah...now it looks like one of my enhancements may have caused a bug.. |
08:03 |
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kf_mtg |
good that you caught it :) |
08:03 |
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mtompset |
so fix it, no foul. :) |
08:04 |
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mtompset |
@wunder YVR |
08:04 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Marpole, Vancouver, British Columbia is 17.1°C (12:50 AM PDT on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
08:04 |
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dcook_away |
Thanks, kf_mtg :) |
08:04 |
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mtompset |
That's what I thought. Isn't it after 1AM where you are, dcook_away? |
08:05 |
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dcook_away |
True, mtompset. Now if only I could figure it out.. |
08:05 |
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dcook_away |
I'm in Sydney, Australia :p |
08:05 |
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dcook_away |
I don't go back to Vancouver for another 3 weeks |
08:05 |
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mtompset |
AH! Okay. |
08:06 |
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mtompset |
@wunder MNL |
08:06 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The current temperature in Manila, Philippines is 29.0°C (4:00 PM PHT on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
08:06 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
08:06 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
08:06 |
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mtompset |
Why does boo call up Bodo? |
08:07 |
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dcook_away |
Must be the code? |
08:07 |
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* dcook_away |
has an idea about his enhancement come bug... |
08:07 |
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* mtompset |
shrugs, "Probably an airport code, I guess." |
08:08 |
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dcook_away |
Mhm |
08:08 |
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* dcook_away |
dances a bit |
08:08 |
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dcook_away |
I'm glad that no one can see that... |
08:08 |
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mtompset |
Coding victory dance? |
08:08 |
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dcook_away |
Yep |
08:08 |
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* mtompset |
grins, "I like those moments too." |
08:09 |
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dcook_away |
I've introduced some extra JS to use the user's branch as the default filter for the hold's pull list |
08:09 |
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dcook_away |
So you don't see all the other branch's holds right away |
08:09 |
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dcook_away |
But I was forcing the filter before the other dropdowns were being populated |
08:09 |
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dcook_away |
tsk tsk |
08:10 |
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dcook_away |
So all the other dropdowns would be limited to options for the holds to pull for that library rather than all libraries |
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dcook_away |
Which isn't a problem until...you choose another library to filter and then you're hooped |
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dcook_away |
But yes, I like these moments :) |
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magnuse |
yeah, boo is the airport code for Bodø |
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mtompset |
@wunder NAIA |
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huginn |
mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. |
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dcook_away |
@wunder YQR |
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huginn |
dcook_away: The current temperature in Regina, Saskatchewan is 13.0°C (1:00 AM CST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
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dcook_away |
I've always liked that airport code. I assume the Q relates to the Queen... |
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mtompset |
Seems like a reasonable assumption. |
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dcook_away |
I might stay away from huginn. Around 15 years ago, I broke an IRC bot, so I've been wary of them ever since ;) |
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* dcook_away |
should be doing homework but bug fixing is too attractive... |
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mtompset |
What homework? |
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dcook_away |
I'm doing a class on developing educational programs for adult learners. Just need to wrap up my last assignment and then I'm free for another month ;) |
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dcook_away |
My project is actually about developing training programs for Koha :p |
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mtompset |
Sounds like you should be talking with nengard? |
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dcook_away |
Well, the assignment is finished. I just need to include some reflective statements about the overall process at the start and end. |
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dcook_away |
But I like the suggestion :) |
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* dcook_away |
wonders if anyone has any insight into the "createSelect" javascript method...\ |
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mtompset |
I haven't dived into the javascript world yet. Sorry. |
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asaurat |
is it normal that the "Expected" status of a serial disappears once another status has been selected ? when a librarian chooses something else by mistake, it's impossible to come back.. would that cause problems if I allowed the Expected status to be selected again? |
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asaurat1 |
I've been disconnected, if someone answered me please repeat =) |
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asaurat1 |
or I can just check the logs :p |
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magnuse |
asaurat1: noone answered while you were away ;-( |
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dcook_away |
Sorry, I don't have an answer off the top of my head and it doesn't look like anyone else wrote anything either |
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magnuse |
to me it sounds like it would be a good thing to be able to correct mistakes, but i'm no expert on serials! |
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dcook_away |
Actually, now that I think about it... |
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dcook_away |
If they've made a mistake and they want it to say "Expected", they can just delete it and "generate next" again |
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mtompset |
Sadly, I know nothing. |
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dcook_away |
I suppose the idea is that you don't want people to be able to change it to "Expected" manually, since "Expected" is changed programatically to "Late" |
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mtompset |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
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mtompset |
I thought it had something in there related to serials or bibliography at some point in time. Oh well. |
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mib_r3iam5 |
No holds allowed in koha search.....how it can be resolved |
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mib_r3iam5 |
any body help me??????????? |
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mtompset |
Sorry, I don't know enough to be able to help you. |
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mib_r3iam5 |
any one else? |
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cjh |
there are a few settings that need to be checked, searching for "hold" in system preferences should get them |
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cjh |
by default you cant place holds on items that are on shelf, something like AllowOnShelfHolds |
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cjh |
mib_r3iam5: does that help? |
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cjh |
oh also OPACItemHolds set to allow (so patrons can place holds in the OPAC) |
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cjh |
although that allows holds on specific items. |
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cjh |
mib_r3iam5: within the circulation tab in system preferences there is an entire "Holds Policy" section you may need to look at. |
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francharb |
I'm looking for a zebra expert. Anyone? |
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francharb |
It's an easy question I think |
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francharb |
I want to use the Title-host index |
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magnuse |
francharb: try your nearest zoo? |
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francharb |
\0/ |
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* magnuse |
couldn't resist the temptation ;-) |
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cjh |
heh |
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francharb |
good answer |
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francharb |
so... |
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francharb |
it's set up in the record.abs file |
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francharb |
I need to add it in the ccl.properties file |
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francharb |
I was thinking about doing this : Title-host 1=4 |
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francharb |
4 is the attribute in bib1.att for title |
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francharb |
but it"s already used for the tifle index |
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francharb |
Title 1=4 |
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francharb |
si my question is |
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francharb |
can I use the same attribute for 2 differents index? |
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francharb |
I think no but I want to be sure |
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francharb |
:) |
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magnuse |
francharb: all the other mappings seem to be 1:1 i think? |
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magnuse |
i think it would be better to change record.abs, to get the data into the Title index there, if that is what you want |
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* dcook_away |
glares at the holds to pull datatable |
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dcook_away |
I finally figure out a way to break apart the "branch<br>branch" string and get it to output as separate options... |
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dcook_away |
Then I realize that they're not distinct values |
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francharb |
ok magnuse, thank you |
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kf |
marcelr++ |
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kf |
frido_s++ |
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* dcook_away |
twitches a bit |
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kf |
shouldn't you be asleep? :) |
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dcook_away |
I should be doing homework :( |
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dcook_away |
Instead of finding ways to fix the holds pull list |
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kf |
oh what are you studying? |
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dcook_away |
I've been doing a course on planning programs for adult learners |
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dcook_away |
I just need to put the final touches on my final assignment, but playing with javascript is a bit more interesting ;) |
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kf |
dcook_away: I know... Koha is always more intersting than any study *sigh* |
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dcook_away |
Agreed |
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dcook_away |
But then I have a month off from study :) |
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dcook_away |
When I head back, I need to do some required courses, an odd elective, and then courses on preservation and taxonomies for my MLIS :) |
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dcook_away |
After that, I'll have my degree and I'll come back to Oz to work on Koha all the time, muahhaa |
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dcook_away |
I'll be doing some work while I'm back in Canada, but the rate will definitely be slower and I won't be able to do these ridiculous nights where I procrastinate study in favour of work... |
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* mtompset |
grins and chants, "ko-ha! ko-ha! code! code! code! code!" |
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kf |
dcook_away: the plan to work only on koha after that sounds good to me :) |
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dcook_away |
:) |
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kf |
hi matts |
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matts |
hi ! |
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kf |
:) |
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* dcook_away |
wonders if jcamins ever sleeps |
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jcamins |
dcook_away: it's 7:43. |
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dcook_away |
True, but you're often up when it's considerably earlier/later as well :P |
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* kf |
sends cait to sleep while kf is here :P |
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jcamins |
dcook_away: this is true. |
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dcook_away |
I was going to PM you about that kf :P |
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dcook_away |
Mind you, the difference might only be 12 hours, so maybe that's not so bizarre... |
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dcook_away |
In either case, hi :) |
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jcamins |
clrh: good morning/afternoon. |
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kf |
dcook_away: pm me? |
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mtompset |
That was an interesting bump. |
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mtompset |
I'm glad you find a URL, jcamins. |
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clrh |
jcamins: hello |
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mtompset |
I haven't had a chance to tweak the scripts, because today I had to get some backup scripts revised and working. |
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clrh |
jcamins: I am going to a internal meeting/training see you later |
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jcamins |
clrh: okay. Just wondering if you had an update on bug 7419. It can wait. :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Add authority deduplication script |
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clrh |
jcamins: ask julian_m for bug 7419 (after training) the script is gone in production so we can now proposed for a comunity version :) |
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jcamins |
Thanks. :) |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
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dcook_away |
au revoir, #koha |
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dcook_away |
See you in...11 hours :p |
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kf |
ah, now I missed him |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard. |
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jcamins |
julian_m_: clrh instructed me to nudge you for the script for bug 7419. :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Add authority deduplication script |
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mtompset |
So have you downloaded all the source.list files that you can think of, jcamins? ;) |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I have four. |
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jcamins |
Squeeze, Wheezy, Lucid, and Precise. |
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mtompset |
Why not Maverick? |
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mtompset |
We have an ubuntu .packages for it. |
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jcamins |
'Cause I don't care? :P |
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mtompset |
I'm going to see what I can whip up in an hour. |
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mtompset |
I have to get to sleep on time tonight, as I have an appointment in the morning. |
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jcamins |
Good plan. :) |
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mtompset |
Could you save me the effort and just email me the zip file of the four source.list files? ;) |
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jcamins |
Sure. |
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mtj |
mtompset: if its older that old-stable... we dont care (is the rule) |
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mtj |
ie: its offically unsupported |
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mtompset |
I know, but the file exists. |
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mtj |
deleted it, even |
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mtj |
sorry.. delete it, even? |
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mtompset |
Whose the release manager for 3.6.8? |
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jcamins |
RMaint. |
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mtompset |
and 3.8.4? |
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jcamins |
That's me. |
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kf |
^^ |
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jcamins |
rangi is 3.8.x. |
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mtompset |
I suppose if you two agree, the maverick file can be chucked. :) |
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drojf |
paul_p__: my mail client seems to screw up the patch when sending, please use only my last email with a gzipped patch for german koct translation and ignore the one before, sorry |
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mtompset |
irc logs? |
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wahanui |
irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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paul_p__ |
drojf no problem, don't worry |
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drojf |
wow that happens to every line in an attachment that starts with "From". that is annoying. either that is a "feature" of an extension i use or a bug in thunderbird/ iceweasel |
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oleonard |
Proposed revision of the sandboxes interface: http://www.screencast.com/t/Kc886n24 |
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jcamins |
Nice! |
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jcamins |
oleonard++ |
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chris_n |
oleonard++ |
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drojf |
very nice indeed |
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drojf |
oleonard++ |
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kf |
oleonard++ |
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kf |
very nice! |
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oleonard |
Thanks guys. I've submitted a patch directly to paul_p. |
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julian_m_ |
jcamins, sorry for the late, what do you want to know about 7419? |
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jcamins |
julian_m_: I understand you have a patch that requires signing off. :) |
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jcamins |
Well, and a follow-up adding my deduplication code. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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paul_p |
oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
Anyone know how to install rangi's dashboard application for local testing? |
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paul_p |
oleonard = yes I do. I tried (although not finished yet). You have to get the bugzilla database & a config file. Will send you a mail rangi sent to me |
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kf |
mtj did it this morning - but not sure how he did it :( |
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oleonard |
Thanks paul_p |
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julian_m_ |
jcamins, no patch have been sumbitted yet for 7419, i still have to work on it |
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paul_p |
oleonard mail sent |
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julian_m_ |
jcamins, what follow-up are you talking about? |
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oleonard |
tinkering with the dashboard interface would be a nice thing to do when I should be doing other things |
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jcamins |
julian_m_: the one I haven't written yet. :) |
13:49 |
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jcamins |
julian_m_: I started work before I heard that you had a patch for submission. |
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kf |
oleonard: sounds like fun :) |
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jcamins |
So all the code that I wrote should be integrated to work with yours. |
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mtompset |
I am just thinking of parameters again, jcamins. |
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mtompset |
should it be --list-dir or --sources? |
13:50 |
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mtompset |
Do we have to force sanity on the user? |
13:50 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: either one is fine with me. |
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mtj |
oleonard: i'm having a go at a css theme for teh dashboard, too :) |
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jcamins |
I'll only call it from another script. |
13:51 |
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kf |
mtj: why are you not asleep? :) |
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oleonard |
mtj: You were successful in getting it running locally? |
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julian_m_ |
jcamins, ok, i have to leave now, i will try to rebase the patch soon, and maybe we can talk about it once the patch is submitted? |
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mtj |
yes mam, yes sir |
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jcamins |
julian_m_: do you have a sense of when you will be doing that? |
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jcamins |
I hate to duplicate your work, but I also have code. |
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* oleonard |
will not do anything with it if mtj is already working on something |
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julian_m_ |
maybe tomorrow, at last beginning of next week |
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mtompset |
Is this going to turn into the eating philosophers problem? |
13:53 |
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mtompset |
and everyone starves? |
13:53 |
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mtj |
oleonard, cool, i'll have something sorted in a day or 3... |
13:53 |
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jcamins |
julian_m_: awesome! |
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jcamins |
julian_m++ |
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julian_m_ |
jcamins, i have to go, see you! |
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wizzyrea |
has anyone looked at civicrm, I really like how they do their "configuration checklist" |
13:59 |
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wizzyrea |
basically "Set these things up, fool." |
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mtompset |
Are there any linux distribution names that have something other than letters in the name that we care about, jcamins? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: not to my knowledge. |
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mtompset |
I figure I should do SOME sanity checking on the parameters. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I'm not seeing that. Where did you find it? |
14:02 |
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jcamins |
Ah, found it. |
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jcamins |
nengard: sekjal has been working on finding a Meebo alternative for UMass. |
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nengard |
well he might like my list of open source chat options :) |
14:04 |
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nengard |
it's in the comments on that post |
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wizzyrea |
mtj++ |
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oleonard |
drojf == Mirko? I did not put that together until now. |
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drojf |
heh. yes |
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mtompset |
You're slower than me. ;) |
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mtompset |
Not enough caffeine, I suppose. :) |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal ought to look at mibew |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I think the problem was bridging it to chat networks. |
14:10 |
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* oleonard |
suggests a visit to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars to all who haven't already |
14:11 |
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* drojf |
thought he already put his name in there |
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drojf |
seems like i did not |
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mtompset |
oleonard++ # for suggesting that. |
14:12 |
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mtompset |
Sometimes it is hard to know what is in the wiki, because you didn't know you were to be looking for it. |
14:12 |
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wizzyrea |
irc regulars? |
14:12 |
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wahanui |
i heard irc regulars was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
14:12 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
14:12 |
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wizzyrea |
wahanui knows lots of thigns |
14:12 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: i'm not following you... |
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drojf |
lol |
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oleonard |
Looks like libsysguy needs to update his entry |
14:12 |
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wizzyrea |
but is easily confused |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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libsysguy |
true |
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oleonard |
...and some people should have their "regular" status revoked. *cough*pianohacker*cough* |
14:13 |
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* oleonard |
hopes he's doing well |
14:13 |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
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* libsysguy |
is updated |
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wizzyrea |
hm libsysguy |
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wahanui |
libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
14:15 |
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wizzyrea |
if you are in there |
14:16 |
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libsysguy |
well |
14:16 |
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wizzyrea |
nuke out (lol) joetho, pianohacker |
14:16 |
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libsysguy |
it was updating |
14:16 |
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libsysguy |
ok going to nuke |
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oleonard |
joetho's not working in a Koha system anymore eh wizzyrea? |
14:17 |
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wizzyrea |
no, sadly |
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libsysguy |
ok they are gone too |
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wizzyrea |
bg turns into bag |
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libsysguy |
now libsysguy is koha's youngest developer again!! |
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wizzyrea |
libsysguy is also koha's youngest developer |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
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wizzyrea |
libsysguy? |
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wahanui |
libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer |
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libsysguy |
hehe |
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* jcamins |
is not! o/ |
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wizzyrea |
that's a lot of 'ests' |
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wizzyrea |
very good thanks libsysguy |
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wizzyrea |
libsysguy++ |
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* oleonard |
hands libsysguy the scissors with the rounded ends |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
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libsysguy |
:'( |
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oleonard |
Oh man those sucked so bad didn't they? |
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libsysguy |
oleonard are those to cut out the bad code in Koha |
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libsysguy |
if so, imma need a sharper pair :p |
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wizzyrea |
just remember |
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wizzyrea |
walk with the tips pointed towards the floor. |
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libsysguy |
and don't trip |
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wizzyrea |
don't grab the blades. |
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wizzyrea |
can you tell I recently had this conversation with a little person? |
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libsysguy |
haha little people scare me |
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mtompset |
You once were a little person. :P |
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libsysguy |
I was afraid of myself then too :p |
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libsysguy |
actually I hated being called a little kid |
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mtompset |
jcamins, I decided to tweak the parameters a bit, but I'm not going to get to test them yet. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: take your time. |
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mtompset |
Instead of: check_deps.sh [--koha-dir=<path>] [--list-dir=<path> [--dist=<dist> --release=<release>]] [<file> [<full>]]? |
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mtompset |
--file=<file> |
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mtompset |
and --full=[01] |
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jcamins |
Why not just --full to specify full=1 and no --full to specify full=0? |
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mtompset |
that way the parsing of the parameters is a lot easier. :) |
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mtompset |
That's extra code. :P |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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* chris_n |
upgrades to quantal to get bugfixes which should be in precise >:-( |
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mtompset |
because then I have to check if there wasn't an = and value. |
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jcamins |
Doesn't getopt do it for you? |
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mtompset |
I suppose I could have done it that way. :P |
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mtompset |
But I've never used getopt before. |
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* jcamins |
only uses it in Perl. |
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mtompset |
I was thinking of purposefully writing out a perl script from the bash script just to deal with parameters. ;) |
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mtompset |
but I decided that would be too ugly. |
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nengard |
can someone explain a bit more about the IntranetSlipPrinterJS preference? The description says to 'Define at least function printThenClose(). ' but that function isn't in the box and that seems to imply that you need that in there at the very least |
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jcamins |
mtompset: better to just use Perl in that case? |
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mtompset |
BAH! |
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jcamins |
nengard: no idea, but didn't Kyle write that? |
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kf |
nengard: best to ask mveron - but I think there is also an example on the bug |
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kf |
jcamins: nope, mveron's bug :) |
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kf |
nengard: he did write up a lot about how it works |
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jcamins |
Oh, never mind. |
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nengard |
i'll look at the bug report to see if i can figure it out |
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nengard |
nope, no clue :) |
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nengard |
left a comment on there |
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oleonard |
nengard it looks like there's two basic steps: Install the jsPrintSetup addon, and populate the pref |
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oleonard |
That first comment gives you an example for what to populate the pref with in Step 4 |
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nengard |
THANK YOU |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
I was missing the whole install the add on part |
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nengard |
we should update the description on that preference to make it clearer |
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oleonard |
Hmmm... not sure about the "Choose printer using one or more of the following functions" step |
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kf |
nengard: I think you could use other addons too maybe, it allows to add custom javascript |
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kf |
ah never mind |
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* kf |
goes back to rebuilding her dev env and cries a little |
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oleonard |
kf: :( |
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kf |
new computer and my old vm refused migration very stubbornly |
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mtompset |
why would it do that? |
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* chris_n |
hands kf some chocolates |
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mtompset |
what's your VM ware? |
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kf |
virtualbox |
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wahanui |
i heard virtualbox was good for that sort of thing |
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kf |
but it was broken a bit since the day my computer froze while taking a snapshot |
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mtompset |
Oh. |
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kf |
I got it back running... but then I couldn't shut it down and reboot, which made things difficult |
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mtompset |
I've never had a problem transplant my VMs with virtualbox. |
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kf |
long story |
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kf |
starting over is probably best |
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mtompset |
transplantING... |
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kf |
only a bit painful |
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* mtompset |
nods. |
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oleonard |
nengard: Are you trying that now? |
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nengard |
nope .. |
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nengard |
i'm working on the manual right now |
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nengard |
for now i put a placeholder there for the preference |
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mtompset |
well, I must go to bed. |
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mtompset |
I think I have the parameter code almost done. |
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reiveune |
bye |
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mtompset |
Now to integrate it back into the script later. |
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jcamins |
paul_p: rebased bug 3462. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Link see alsos in authorities |
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kf |
wizzyrea: still around? |
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paul_p |
jcamins thx. bug 8204 also just failed QA (but I LOVE it !) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8204 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless |
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kf |
wizzyrea: didn't you write a script for updating child to adult? (bug 3410?) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3410 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, REOPENED , Update Child to Adult Patron |
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jcamins |
paul_p: hm. I tested it with UNIMARC, but maybe my authority wasn't valid. |
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jcamins |
Any chance you could attach a UNIMARC authority to that patch? |
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jcamins |
*bug |
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paul_p |
jcamins = i've a better suggestion = clone the sandbox repo, sandbox1.sql.gz is a valid UNIMARC database ;-) |
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jcamins |
Oh, right. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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kf |
paul_p++ and jcamins++ - hope to see the new view soon :) |
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kf |
and now leaving - bye all! |
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paul_p |
bye kf |
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jcamins |
paul_p: there are no authorities at all in the sandbox. |
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paul_p |
jcamins ??? strange... |
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* paul_p |
investigating |
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paul_p |
jcamins = unimarc is on sandbox2.sql, not sandbox1 ! |
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jcamins |
Oh! |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jcamins |
I'll try that, then. :) |
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nengard |
is there a perl module i need to install to be able to use the --help notation? |
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paul_p |
jcamins = about bug 8207: i'm really not sure it's OK. The line "removed" has no frameworkcode, where the line "added" has one. (the rest of the diff being s/tab/space/Ã |
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paul_p |
) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8207 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Modify authority type frameworks to allow see also fields to link to thesauri |
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jcamins |
nengard: maybe perldoc? |
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jcamins |
paul_p: oh, was I looking at something different than what you were looking at? |
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* jcamins |
will check. |
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nengard |
trying that |
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paul_p |
jcamins = for example, line 779- and 781+ have as last parameter '' (authtypecode), where line 780 has 'CORPO_NAME' |
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paul_p |
jcamins = sounds illogical to me to mix authtypes, so I thought it was a mistake |
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nengard |
jcamins how do i install it? |
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nengard |
cpan perldoc didn't work |
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jcamins |
Ohhh. |
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nengard |
what's the module for apt get |
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jcamins |
nengard: use packages, always. |
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jcamins |
perldoc. |
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wahanui |
somebody said perldoc was at http://perldoc.koha-community.org for the C4 modules and more |
15:40 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: oh, I see. |
15:40 |
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jcamins |
The last parameter is not for framework but for the thesaurus to use for see also references. |
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nengard |
i'm totally lost |
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nengard |
i see nothing related to perldoc on that page |
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jcamins |
nengard: the package is 'perldoc' |
15:41 |
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jcamins |
apt-get perldoc |
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jcamins |
paul_p: does that answer your question? |
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jcamins |
nengard: wahanui was just making conversation. ;) |
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paul_p |
jcamins yes, |
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paul_p |
jcamins = not sure I understand "UNIMARC is sensible". Does it mean we should do a patch for it ? |
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jcamins |
paul_p: no, I mean that UNIMARC *already* supports thesauri. |
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paul_p |
jcamins ok, thx |
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jcamins |
paul_p: I found the problem with UNIMARC. |
15:50 |
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jcamins |
And fixed it. |
15:50 |
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jcamins |
:) |
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paul_p |
yeah ! will test again immediately ;-) |
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jcamins |
Should I squash it, or attach a follow-up? |
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paul_p |
jcamins a follow-up pls |
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paul_p |
(so it will retain the initial sign-off & i'll add mine on the follow-up |
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jcamins |
Okay, that's what I figured. :) |
15:53 |
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jcamins |
Attached. :) |
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mtompset |
Okay... I obviously don't know when to stop coding. |
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jcamins |
Clearly not. |
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mtompset |
The source.list stuff isnt' done. |
15:55 |
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mtompset |
But the parameters are there mostly. |
15:55 |
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mtompset |
See your email. |
15:55 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: yup, I saw it. :) |
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mtompset |
source.list stuff... tomorrow, and I don't mean 6 minutes from now. |
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jcamins |
lol |
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mtompset |
Shoot... found a bug already... the .fix file is appended. |
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mtompset |
I don't clear it out. |
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mtompset |
well, sleep. really. |
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* mtompset |
waves. |
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paul_p |
time to go back home for me. I'm tired today. Have a nice day/night/whatever & see you tomorrow ! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8204: fix UNIMARC display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dee8168bafe8a6002> / Bug 8204: Add user friendly authority view to OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57eed4aa8d64aef93> / Bug 8208 follow-up: move Clear and Create new buttons out of results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd |
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jcamins |
Someone talk me out of peach cobbler for lunch. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #794 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 22 days ago) |
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jcamins |
Right, none of those arguments were convincing. |
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* jcamins |
goes to make a cobbler. |
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* oleonard |
would only argue against peach cobbler in order to argue for apple crisp |
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jcamins |
oleonard: apples aren't in season yet. |
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jcamins |
However, good call on the apple crisp. |
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martian523 |
hi, is there a way to move the titles in acquisitions to catalog? |
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jcamins |
martian523: you have to attach acquisitions records to a record in your catalog. |
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martian523 |
meaning? |
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jcamins |
martian523: when you create an acquisitions record, you are linking it to a record in your catalog. There's no "moving" involved. |
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martian523 |
but what if those are new titles that are not in the catalog yet? |
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martian523 |
i got these records from the Z39 |
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martian523 |
these records got moved to the reservoir, |
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martian523 |
how can i get those records into the catalog? |
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jcamins |
You have to create a record for them. I promise, there will be a record (even if just a short one) by the time you've finished the acquisitions process. |
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jcamins |
You can use the cataloging module. |
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* jcamins |
should mention, though, that the acquisitions module always worked on actual records when he tried using it. |
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jcamins |
(not records in the reservoir) |
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martian523 |
is there an example i can refer to? |
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martian523 |
i'm kinda confused here, sorry |
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jcamins |
manual? |
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wahanui |
somebody said manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
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jcamins |
^^ look through the acquisitions section. |
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jcamins |
I don't generally use acquisitions. |
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martian523 |
ooh....maybe i get it now |
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martian523 |
i think i need to edit records for each title |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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mbalmer |
goodeveningmrmarcveronhowslifethefishandeverything? |
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mveron |
Hi mbalmer, everyting OK :-) |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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mbalmer |
grüezi cait |
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cait |
hi mbalmer |
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mveron |
Hi cait :-) |
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cait |
hi mveron |
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cait |
you have been busy :) |
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mveron |
Regarding the slip printer? I shoud set up a wiki page for it |
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drojf |
hi german-speaking feierabendcommunity ;) |
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mveron |
hi drojf |
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mbalmer |
der berliner... |
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cait |
mveron: it would be nice, but in general your documentation is quite good :) |
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mveron |
Thaks, cait :-) |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 30.7°C (6:42 PM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 31.0°C (7:00 PM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
really warm day here today |
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mveron |
@wunder Allschwil |
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huginn |
mveron: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Mulhouse FR, Basel, Switzerland is 33.3°C (6:37 PM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 32.8°C (12:41 PM EDT on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... |
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mbalmer |
@wunder gipf-oberfrick |
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huginn |
mbalmer: The current temperature in Erlinsbach, Switzerland is 32.1°C (6:59 PM CEST on July 26, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
Hot everywhere |
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mbalmer |
even in erlinsbach... |
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cait |
ah mbalmer beat me |
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mbalmer |
and you have a lake to jump in... |
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mveron |
Back in 30 minutes, dinner time :-) |
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cait |
mbalmer: cold shower ? :) |
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mbalmer |
outdoor sauna.... |
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* drojf |
just got his fan from the shelf |
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drojf |
much better |
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cait |
my apartment is nice and cool :) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #794: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/794/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* mtj: Bug 8470: remove depreciated H:T:P test |
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jenkins_koha |
* savitra.sirohi: Bug 7153 - Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8208: Add fast-add link to auth finder plugin |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8208 follow-up: move Clear and Create new buttons out of results |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8204: Add user friendly authority view to OPAC |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8204: fix UNIMARC display |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8470 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , remove depreciated H:T:P test file |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Pushed to Master , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8204 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless |
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Morthland |
I'm having an issue with Amazon AWS |
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jcamins |
Morthland: you should probably contact Amazon. |
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martian523 |
hi, does Koha not support asian languages? |
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oleonard |
martian523: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ohaUsers/EastAsia |
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cait |
martian523: do you have a specific problem? |
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martian523 |
i was using the Z39 to search for chinese books and it came back with unreadable characters |
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martian523 |
inputing new records has no problem, but retrieving records from external source has problem |
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jcamins |
martian523: your problem is the encoding you have set up for the Z39.50 server. |
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jcamins |
Change it from MARC-8 to UTF-8. |
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wahanui |
jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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jcamins |
(or, less likely, to a different encoding which matches that of the server you are trying to access) |
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martian523 |
hmmm... |
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cait |
hm and maybe try importing and check if it's still unreadable |
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cait |
I had issues with the marc preview and german umlauts lately (again) |
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cait |
night #koha |
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mveron |
Good night #koha |
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rangi |
hi mgeist |
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rangi |
also |
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mgeist |
Hola. |
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rangi |
git show --word-diff=color <-- for everybody |
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kathryn |
morning all |
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mgeist |
Would this be possible as a development: in a consortium setting, make it so that all holds requests from a specific library and their patrons, are ignored, for a set time period? |
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rangi |
anything is possible :) given resources to do it :) |
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rangi |
but yes, that would be doable, would be a decent chunk of work because it would have to be generic to be useful |
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mgeist |
Thanks, we were trying to find out if it was even feasible to try this with software changes. |
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rangi |
holds are undergoing a decent amount of change at the moment, that should make it easier than it was before |
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rangi |
but it would still need to touch code in quite a lot of places |
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mgeist |
Oh, i will need to read up on the changes. Is this going to be in v10? |
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jcamins |
mgeist: you might want to think, though, about what exactly your goal is. |
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rangi |
issues, returns, reports, would you need them to be hidden on the biblio record too? or maybe just greyed out |
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jcamins |
You can't do quite what you asked about, but I think once the hold rewrite stuff is done you'll be able to disallow hold requests from patrons at a particular branch (rangi, do I remember correctly that Srdjan was working on this?). |
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rangi |
you'd want to spec it up as fully as you can, and then people will be able to figure out how to do it |
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rangi |
i like using user stories to do this |
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mgeist |
Our goal would be to limit a specific set of libraries, and their patrons, from receiving holds. ie. If you dont share your new stuff, you cant have new stuff from other branches. |
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rangi |
1/ librarian a places a hold from branch b |
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rangi |
2/ something happens |
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rangi |
3/ ??? |
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rangi |
4/ profit |
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mgeist |
lol |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
and yep srdjan (papa is his irc nick) was working on that |
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rangi |
disallow holds |
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jcamins |
mgeist: it would not be nearly as slick as what you asked about, but it might be a good temporary option. |
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jcamins |
(in 3.10) |
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mgeist |
We hope it woudlnt have to be used for more than a month or two |
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rangi |
ahh the old carrot and stick :) |
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rangi |
mgeist: would not letting them place holds if they are from that branch work? |
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rangi |
its kinda the other way round |
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rangi |
rather than stopping them receiving, they cant even ask to have them |
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rangi |
? |
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rangi |
if that would work, you might be able to use that |
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rangi |
and |
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rangi |
koha supports holds that dont start until a certain period |
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rangi |
so you could find all their holds in the db |
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rangi |
and do |
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rangi |
update reserves set startdate='2012-10-10' where branchcode='wedontshare'; |
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rangi |
so they cant place any new ones, and all the oens in the db now, dont get looked at by koha until after that date |
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rangi |
hackery version 2 |
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rangi |
you could cron that |
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rangi |
and juts let them place it, but have a script change the start date |
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rangi |
(im not recommending that approach :)) |
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mgeist |
Hrm, that looks like it could work. I save off your suggestion and recommend that. |
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jcamins |
rangi: ooh, what about some jQuery that automatically sets the startdate to a ways out for users from that library? |
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jcamins |
Users with javascript blockers (or very savvy users) would get around it, but it might be easier to do, politically speaking? |
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rangi |
oh yes that would work |
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rangi |
and the cron could run once a night |
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rangi |
to fix any ones that sneaked past :) |
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rangi |
mgeist: that jquery option, is probably the least work, and will most likely work the best |
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mgeist |
Oh, except, we really only want to limit their holds on items that are 2 months old or less. Can you restrict it to that, or is it blanket no holds? |
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Starting build #108 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
hmmm |
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rangi |
no |
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rangi |
its blanket |
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mgeist |
Too bad! |
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rangi |
however you could craft sql that checks that |
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rangi |
eg |
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rangi |
update reserves set startdate='2012-10-10' where branchcode='wedontshare' and itemtype='newbook'; |
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rangi |
(that wont actually work, it would be more complicated than that) |
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rangi |
but something like that may be possible |
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rangi |
however we are getting into pretty hacky land |
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rangi |
it depends on how permanent a solution you want this to be |
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rangi |
and if other libraries might ever want it |
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mgeist |
Hopefully mere threats, and some actual "and this is how we would implement it" threats would work. But we are only looking for ideas now. |
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jcamins |
You could do some fancy jQuery, I suppose. |
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jcamins |
Very fancy. |
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mgeist |
I have what i need now. Thank you both for your assistance. |
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rangi |
no worries |
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rangi |
hmm 7153 is probbaly safe for 3.8.x because it only affects new installs and just adds openlibrary as a search target for more searches |
21:43 |
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rangi |
bug 7153 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Pushed to Master , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page |
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rangi |
any counter opinions? |
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rangi |
(no updatedatabase, only modifies the syspref.sql file) |
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jcamins |
Fine with me. |
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mgeist |
hometime! bye. |
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wizzyrea |
doesn't bother me |
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rangi |
ill take it |
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* rangi |
pushes |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #108: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/108/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7943: Authority search results are untranslatable |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 7943 follow-up: Fix template filename |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7943 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable strings in OPAC's authority search |
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rangi |
ohh a rtfmm |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #109 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
read the f'n marc manual |
21:57 |
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rangi |
doug_dearden++ |
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Project Koha_3.8.x build #109: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/109/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* mtj: Bug 8470: remove depreciated H:T:P test |
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jenkins_koha |
* savitra.sirohi: Bug 7153 - Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8470 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , remove depreciated H:T:P test file |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Pushed to Stable , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page |
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rangi |
jcamins: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/cigame/? |
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jcamins |
Yay! I'm winning! :P |
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rangi |
hehe well 9 points is bad |
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rangi |
isnt even |
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rangi |
its 9 more than me :) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... |
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jcamins |
if we're using that, I'll have to push patches one at a time. |
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jcamins |
(presuming I'm elected RM) |
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rangi |
ah yeah i push them in batches, so its not really valid |
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rangi |
tis is silly fun tho :) and requires no effort |
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rangi |
and if you end up in a group that loses -10 |
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rangi |
you can gang up on the build breaker *grin* |
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* jcamins |
thinks maybe putting that on the dashboard would be useful. |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
i wonder if it has an api, the rest of jenkins does |
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rangi |
its tres cool |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.org/api/ |
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rangi |
nope, not for the game |
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rangi |
i could mechanize it tho |
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jcamins |
404. |
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jcamins |
Bah. |
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dcook |
morning, #koha |
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* dcook |
curses IE < 9 |
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rangi |
you dont need the < 9 biut |
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rangi |
IE-- |