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kia ora #koha |
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cait |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
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Oak |
hello miss cait :) |
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cait |
mtj: still around? |
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mtj |
cait: here now... |
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cait |
ah :) |
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cait |
was about the patch from marc |
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mtj |
ah, yep - thanx for updating the bug :) |
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cait |
mtj: I did another sign off - want to add yours to the patch too? |
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mtj |
yes, will do now |
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mveron |
Good morning #koha |
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vinod |
hello all koha users |
| 05:49 |
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cait |
guten morgen mveron :) |
| 05:50 |
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vinod |
i am facing problem in import all data is imported successfully but call number does not shows |
| 05:51 |
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vinod |
but call number shows in marc format and other detail views |
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cait |
where did you store the call number? |
| 05:51 |
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cait |
and did you import items? |
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vinod |
082 $a and $b yes everything |
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cait |
082$b is not shown |
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cait |
you have to add the callnumbers to your items in 952 |
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rangi |
Needs to be on 952$o |
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cait |
right $o :) |
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rangi |
I think someone answered your email |
| 05:52 |
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cait |
evening rangi |
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vinod |
yes it is also automatically added |
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wahanui |
okay, vinod. |
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cait |
vinod: Koha does not show call numbers in the record, only in the items |
| 05:53 |
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rangi |
You added it to 952? |
| 05:53 |
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cait |
wahanui forget yes it |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot yes it |
| 05:54 |
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rangi |
It won't automatically add it |
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vinod |
during import i had given 082 field but it automatically takes in 952 $o also |
| 05:54 |
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rangi |
What does? |
| 05:54 |
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wahanui |
i guess does is calculate the discount on this price or the tax is removed before to calculte the discount on the price before taxes? |
| 05:54 |
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rangi |
Koha doesn't |
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mtj |
cait: done :) |
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vinod |
when i tried to manually edit the item record, it was already call number was already there and after saving that shows the call number in opac also |
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rangi |
Ok my bus stop bbl |
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vinod |
please tell me what to do |
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cait |
vinod: it only does that automatically when you use the cataloguing module |
| 05:57 |
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cait |
and add new items |
| 05:57 |
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cait |
when you import data |
| 05:57 |
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cait |
you have to have the infrmation in the right fields already |
| 05:58 |
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cait |
vinod: when you edit an item, koha will check for 082 to present you with a suggestion for your callnumber, this is controlled by the itemcallnumber system preference - but it's only because you opened the item for editing. |
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cait |
thx mtj :) |
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cait |
mtj++ |
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vinod |
ok than what to do so that imported items can be viewed directly |
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mtj |
cait++ too |
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cait |
vinod: put the callnumber in 952$o as rangi suggested |
| 06:02 |
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cait |
and then import them again |
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cait |
or if you are good with sql you can also populate items.itemcallnumber and run a full reindex |
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vinod1 |
please let me know how to add full call number in 952 $o field at the tie of bulk importing\ |
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francharb |
good morning |
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vinod1 |
after importing bulk data, opac does not shows full call number in table form but it shows in marc format |
| 06:12 |
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vinod1 |
hello anybody help please |
| 06:14 |
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mtj |
vinod1: use marcedit, or (my favourite) a perl script |
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mtj |
heya francharb |
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wahanui |
francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. |
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mtj |
ok, off for a bit... |
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vinod1 |
so do i need to add call number in 952 field also |
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vinod1 |
before importing the data |
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mtj |
wahanui: dude, i know... i was sitting next to him :) |
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wahanui |
mtj: excuse me? |
| 06:17 |
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mtj |
elephanta island... was a great day! |
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alex_a |
bonjour #koha |
| 06:17 |
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cait |
hi alex_a |
| 06:17 |
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cait |
vinod1: yes |
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mtj |
vinod1: yes, add callnumber-info to 952$o subfield... before import into Koha |
| 06:19 |
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vinod1 |
i have data in 082 $a and $b field please let me know in which format tags showl i add call number in 952 |
| 06:20 |
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mtj |
vinod1: 952$o |
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mtj |
@marc 952o |
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huginn` |
mtj: unknown tag 952o |
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vinod1 |
in 952 only one field is there how can i add two fields as in 082 |
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francharb |
0/ mtj |
| 06:21 |
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mtj |
@marc 952$o |
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huginn` |
mtj: unknown tag 952$o |
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mtj |
@marc 245a |
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huginn` |
mtj: unknown tag 245a |
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mtj |
@marc 245$a |
| 06:21 |
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huginn` |
mtj: unknown tag 245$a |
| 06:22 |
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mtj |
hmm, i'm not having much luck with the MARC plugin :) |
| 06:22 |
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mtj |
@marc 245 |
| 06:22 |
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huginn` |
mtj: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
| 06:23 |
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mtj |
aaah, it wants a space ' ' |
| 06:23 |
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vinod1 |
952$o is a full call number field so how can i use 082$a and $b in single 952$o |
| 06:23 |
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mtj |
@marc 952 o |
| 06:23 |
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huginn` |
mtj: unknown field/subfield combination (952/o) |
| 06:23 |
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mtj |
i always forget that... :/ |
| 06:24 |
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mtj |
vinod1: i have never used marcedit... so i would use a perl script - for that |
| 06:25 |
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mtj |
a perl script to manipulate for bib records... before import into Koha |
| 06:25 |
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cait |
vinod1: you have to combine both fields into one 952$b |
| 06:25 |
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mtj |
s/for/your/ |
| 06:26 |
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mtj |
ok, gotta scoot now.... |
| 06:26 |
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mtj |
ciao #koha |
| 06:26 |
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cait |
bye mtj |
| 06:27 |
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vinod1 |
means something like 952 $o500 KNM |
| 06:27 |
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vinod1 |
082$a 500$bKNM |
| 06:28 |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha! |
| 06:28 |
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vinod1 |
is there any way so that 952$o field should automatically pick data from 082 at the time of importing? |
| 06:29 |
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cait |
welcome back magnuse :) |
| 06:29 |
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magnuse |
thanks cait |
| 06:31 |
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vinod1 |
is there any way so that 952$o field should automatically pick data from 082 at the time of importing? |
| 06:34 |
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cait |
no |
| 06:36 |
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vinod1 |
=952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p1000$yBK |
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vinod1 |
=952 \\$aMAIN$bMAIN$p663$yBK |
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vinod1 |
=082 \\$a621.3$bKNO |
| 06:36 |
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vinod1 |
please tell me how can i add the call number in above items |
| 06:37 |
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vinod1 |
the record is only one |
| 06:38 |
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vinod1 |
for two or more items i have only one record and the call number is common how i can i add call number to each item |
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reiveune |
hello |
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samuel |
hi everybody! |
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paul_p |
good morning #koha |
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paul_p |
rangi = are you about ? ( and available for a few dozen of min to speak of Release process ? ) |
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julian_m |
hello |
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asaurat |
hi |
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gaetan_B |
hello #koha :) |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
guten morgen kf |
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samuel |
good morning kf & magnuse |
| 07:31 |
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magnuse |
hiya samuel |
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paul_p |
hello kf & magnuse & samuel |
| 07:32 |
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kf |
hi magnuse, samuel and paul_p :) |
| 07:32 |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
| 07:33 |
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* kf |
wonders how to translate 'item floats' |
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samuel |
kf: in which language do you want to translate "item floats"? |
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asaurat |
kf: Freizugigkeitsbescheinigung |
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kf |
samuel: German - it's ok |
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kf |
I opted for describing it |
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kf |
"item stays where it was returned" |
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samuel |
yeah, sounds good |
| 07:37 |
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kf |
asaurat: Wildschwein? :) |
| 07:38 |
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asaurat |
ok, these are my two favorite words in German :D |
| 07:38 |
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samuel |
:-) |
| 07:39 |
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kf |
:D |
| 07:41 |
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esofiane |
Hi everybody |
| 07:41 |
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kf |
hi esofiane |
| 07:42 |
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rangi |
paul_p: i am now |
| 07:42 |
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paul_p |
rangi wonderful ! |
| 07:43 |
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paul_p |
so, my question was to know how you did the releases |
| 07:43 |
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paul_p |
(+ you wanted to speak of something yesterday) |
| 07:45 |
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rangi |
the hard bit is writing the release notes |
| 07:46 |
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rangi |
to roll the release i did |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
perl Makefile.PL |
| 07:49 |
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rangi |
make |
| 07:50 |
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rangi |
make manifest tardist |
| 07:50 |
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rangi |
then you end up with a tar.gz |
| 07:51 |
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paul_p |
rangi about the release notes, I agree it's a big deal. I've started already, and will submit something before the release, for proof reading and/or comments |
| 07:51 |
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rangi |
but with git you can do |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
git archive --format=tar --prefix=koha-3.8.0/ master | gzip > koha-3.8.0.tar.gz |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
gpg -sb koha-3.8.0.tar.gz |
| 07:55 |
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rangi |
md5sum koha-3.8.0.tar.gz > koha-3.8.0.tar.gz.MD5 |
| 07:56 |
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rangi |
gpg --clearsign koha-3.8.0.tar.gz.MD5 |
| 07:57 |
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rangi |
you also want to tag it in git |
| 07:57 |
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rangi |
with git tag annotate |
| 07:58 |
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rangi |
and branch too |
| 07:58 |
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paul_p |
tagging & branching, I was aware. I discover (and carefully write) the make manifest tardist & git archive ! |
| 07:59 |
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rangi |
what i did was make the tarball |
| 07:59 |
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rangi |
then install it in a vm |
| 08:00 |
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rangi |
to make sure it worked, before i brnached, tagged, and signed it etc |
| 08:03 |
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kf |
12933 words need attention *sigh* |
| 08:04 |
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magnuse |
34383 words need attention *2x sigh* |
| 08:04 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 08:04 |
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kf |
magnuse: ok, you win :) |
| 08:05 |
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magnuse |
or loose... |
| 08:06 |
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kf |
is that bokmal only= |
| 08:06 |
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magnuse |
but *a lot* of it is fuzzy strings that can just be ok'd :-) |
| 08:06 |
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kf |
? |
| 08:06 |
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magnuse |
kf: yup |
| 08:06 |
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kf |
ouch |
| 08:06 |
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magnuse |
i try not to think about nynorsk at all |
| 08:06 |
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kf |
does it work? |
| 08:06 |
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magnuse |
not thinking about it? |
| 08:09 |
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magnuse |
or ok'ing? |
| 08:19 |
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kf |
not thinking about it :) |
| 08:19 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that works really well |
| 08:20 |
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magnuse |
i don't know nynorsk wel enough to do anything about it anyway... |
| 08:23 |
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kf |
:) |
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slef |
wahanui: faq? |
| 09:46 |
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wahanui |
i think faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 09:51 |
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kf |
hi slef :) |
| 09:51 |
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slef |
hi all |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
| 10:57 |
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drojf |
slef: how long is the abstract for a kohacon paper supposed to be? |
| 10:59 |
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slef |
drojf: a reasonable paragraph, probably 100 words or less I think. |
| 10:59 |
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drojf |
ok thanks |
| 10:59 |
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slef |
drojf: as long as it needs to be to get passed by a reviewer |
| 10:59 |
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drojf |
:) |
| 10:59 |
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slef |
drojf: kf, Brooke or rangi might have tips. |
| 10:59 |
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slef |
we have had one abstract that looked like it could be the entire talk so far! |
| 10:59 |
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drojf |
heh |
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kf |
;) |
| 11:00 |
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drojf |
no idea if i will be allowed to come to kohacon, the person in charge is gone until next week. but i still have some hope |
| 11:14 |
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* slef |
drafts an announcement about sponsorship |
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slef |
announcement emailed |
| 11:32 |
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slef |
thanks fredericd and magnuse ! |
| 11:32 |
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kf |
fredericd++ magnuse++ |
| 11:33 |
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magnuse |
huh? yay! |
| 11:33 |
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slef |
if anyone has time to turn that email into a post on koha-community.org before I do, that would be great |
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magnuse |
fredericd++ |
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slef |
"Sorry, this file type is not permitted for security reasons" |
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slef |
:-/ |
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* slef |
converts it |
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magnuse |
slef: exe ftw! |
| 12:12 |
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slef |
magnuse: it was svg. Can that even contain executable code? |
| 12:12 |
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magnuse |
no idea! |
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kf |
probably only missing in a list of allowed formats? |
| 12:12 |
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magnuse |
that would do it |
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slef |
no matter - converted |
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slef |
it accepted PNG |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
| 12:24 |
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slef |
hi all? |
| 12:24 |
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wahanui |
yeah, yeah, hello, hello. Now fix some bugs for me, please. |
| 12:24 |
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paul_p |
good morning oleonard |
| 12:25 |
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samuel |
i've the following error "Can't locate Log/Log Lite.pm in @INC" with sudoc loader: i think it's a problem with a missing perl module but which? |
| 12:26 |
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kf |
hi oleonard |
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kf |
samuel: not sure what the sudoc loader is? |
| 12:26 |
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magnuse |
samuel: my guess: Log::LogLite |
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samuel |
it is for french universities |
| 12:28 |
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kf |
ah, right |
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kf |
not sure then |
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samuel |
a bit long to explain. |
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kf |
it's ok, I work for bsz - we also have pica as software for our union catalog |
| 12:30 |
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kf |
I think i have an idea what it does :) |
| 12:31 |
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oleonard |
samuel: That's an error you're getting from Koha? |
| 12:35 |
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samuel |
yes and i've now another problem with the module "Log:: LogLite" when i want to make the install |
| 12:35 |
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samuel |
make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-Iblib/lib" "-Iblib/arch" test.pl 1..6 Can't locate IO/LockedFile.pm in @INC (@INC contains: blib/lib blib/arch /usr/share/perl/5.10 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at blib/lib/Log/Log |
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oleonard |
I don't find any reference to "LogLite" in Koha code |
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samuel |
this is the link of the tool which would be useful for us http://git.biblibre.com/?p=sudoc.git;a=summary |
| 12:41 |
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* oleonard |
passes the conversation to paul_p |
| 12:41 |
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slef |
package found: libio-lockedfile-perl - IO::LockedFile Class - supply object methods for locking files |
| 12:42 |
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slef |
package found: liblog-loglite-perl - Perl module that facilitates lightweight logging |
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slef |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
| 12:58 |
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mveron |
After learning to create patches from KF I just commited my first enhancenment patch: Bug 7621 [ENH]- Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories |
| 12:58 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7621 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Circulation: Match age restriction of title with borrower's age without using categories |
| 12:59 |
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mveron |
Hope I did it the right way :-) |
| 12:59 |
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magnuse |
mveron++ |
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samuel |
slef: i make on cpan "look Log::LogLite", it 's ok but the problem begin when i do "make test" |
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kyleh |
can the $KohaDates filter handle datetimes? Could that be the problem with the suspend reserves error? |
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kyleh |
nope, changed to datetime to date, no difference. |
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* mveron |
Has to give driving lessons to his daughter |
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mveron |
Bye #koha |
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kyleh |
tried a fresh install from master and got this: ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 2821: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '- biblionumber int(11) NOT NULL, - rating_value tinyint(1) NOT NULL, - ' at line 2 |
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slef |
samuel: you probably wantto install packages not use cpan |
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slef |
kyleh: search the mysql tree for that near string, probably kohastructure.sql |
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magnuse |
kyleh: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=5668#c87 |
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huginn` |
Bug 5668: blocker, P3, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Star ratings in the opac |
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paul_p |
(i'm about to push the follow-up for 5668 |
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paul_p |
) |
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samuel |
slef: that's what i do , instead of using cpan |
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kyleh |
the issue is the ratings table in kohastructure.pl, but I'm not sure what the problem is. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #712 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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magnuse |
kyleh: have a look at the comments here: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=5668#c87 |
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huginn` |
Bug 5668: enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Star ratings in the opac |
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magnuse |
paul_p is pushing a fix for it now |
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paul_p |
kyleh push fixed 2mn ago |
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kyleh |
paul_p, excellent! |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5668' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1046b66d790aefeae> / Bug 5668 Error during during insall with web installer, Step 3 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9da4c1ea031635917> |
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benjix |
14:44benjixI need help 14:44benjixcan any one help out 14:44benjixI install koha on opensuse11.4 14:45benjixit was working but an update has changed everything |
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clrh |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, clrh |
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benjix |
hi |
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benjix |
this problem displays |
| 13:46 |
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benjix |
how so i solve it? |
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clrh |
thx kf for your comment on 7956 I don't know very well the community workflow on translation (I know it's bad) I just know that before the patch I have "failed" in update and after it is ok |
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benjix |
k |
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benjix |
thnak |
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benjix |
who to restart apache2 |
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benjix |
its missing from my installation |
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benjix |
how do I get it back? |
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oleonard |
Apache needs to be restarted, or it isn't installed? |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5345 [FOLLOW-UP] DataTables in Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1215af757ca86d148> |
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magnuse |
looks like zebra/koha can index georgian script out of the box - yay! |
| 13:54 |
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benjix |
how to get it installed back is the major problem |
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oleonard |
benjix: If Apache is not installed I suggest you search for instructions on how to install Apache on opensuse. We're not experts on that. |
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oleonard |
benjix: I see there is an INSTALL file for opensuse but it's a couple of years old |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
kf: is the page better? |
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kf |
sorry, longer meeting |
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wizzyrea |
is np, I just got in |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #712: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/712/ |
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jenkins_koha |
veron: Bug 5668 Error during during insall with web installer, Step 3 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Star ratings in the opac |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #713 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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kf |
paul_p: remember to add marc veron to the history? :) |
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kf |
kyleh: about 7641 - the plugin should be included in the template, not in the pl file |
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* wizzyrea |
pokes for a signoff on 7953 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 7953 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7953 trivial, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , opacuserjs to the sco template |
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kyleh |
kf: how does one include the plugin the template? |
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kf |
it's documented on the wiki |
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kf |
check the coding guidelines |
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kf |
coding guidelines? |
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wahanui |
coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
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slef |
wahanui: have a poisoned botsnack |
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wahanui |
thanks slef :) |
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slef |
wahanui: paul_p? |
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wahanui |
well, paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee. |
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slef |
wahanui: the issue? |
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wahanui |
the issue is, like, that his barcodes don't match what he entered into the system |
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slef |
wahanui: apache? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... apache is the ram hog |
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paul_p |
slef, here |
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slef |
paul_p: I was just wondering what wahanui would say about you |
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kf |
paul_p: taking advantage of you being here - add marc veron to the history! :) |
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paul_p |
true things ;-) |
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paul_p |
kf yep |
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kf |
thx :) |
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magnuse |
nengard++ for all the help files |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
still working |
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kyleh |
kf: thanks, I thought the KohaDates plugin was included in all templates already. |
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kf |
only in templates where it's used |
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kf |
I think at the moment it's still a work in progress, some modules are covered, but not sure all |
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kf |
julian_m and asaurat did a bunch during hackfest |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
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drojf |
hi jcamins |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7902 - Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4faedbc42c8af9ce> / Bug 7936: Reports Help Files for 3.8 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c16945be0ba3af8d> / Bug 7936: Patron Help Files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a99852ccf8643c3f1 |
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esofiane |
Bye :) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #713: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/713/ |
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jenkins_koha |
oleonard: Bug 5345 [FOLLOW-UP] DataTables in Koha |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , DataTables in Koha |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #714 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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reiveune |
BYE |
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kf |
wizzyrea++ thank youQ |
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kf |
thank you! even |
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wizzyrea |
yw |
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kf |
and bye all and have a nice weekend :) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #714: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/714/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: 3.8 Help Files |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Help file for Lists |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Cataloging Help Files |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Tools Help for 3.8 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7936 major, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , general ticket for 3.8 help file updates |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Tags help file |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Marc Export Help File |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Authorities Help Files |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Suggestion help file |
| 15:54 |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Comments Moderation Help File |
| 15:54 |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Holds Help File for 3.8 |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Circ Help Files |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Label Help Files |
| 15:54 |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Patron Card Help Files |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Catalogue Help Files |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Patron Help Files |
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jenkins_koha |
* nengard: Bug 7936: Reports Help Files for 3.8 |
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jenkins_koha |
* cnighswonger: Bug 7902 - Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7902 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables |
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nengard |
2 more folders of help files! almost there |
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slef |
Changes submitted for bug 7729 - there's a patch for new_bib which needs signoff, please. |
| 16:18 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , svc API should allow modification of items |
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slef |
no string changes AFAIK |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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nengard |
oleonard around? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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nengard |
you got the offline circ ff plugin to work right? |
| 16:33 |
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nengard |
would you mind giving me some tips? cause it's still not working for me and i need to document it and write the help file |
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oleonard |
What's not working? |
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nengard |
i put a barcode in the checkin and it doesn't save or go in the log - i do the same on checkout and it doesn't save or go in the log |
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nengard |
basically it doesn't do anything |
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jwagner |
nengard, see my update on Bug 7524 -- same problem, there are underlying errors |
| 16:35 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7524 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Make it possible to generate a .koc file using the Firefox KOCT plugin |
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nengard |
does the server field need an http:// |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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oleonard |
In mine it has it nengard |
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nengard |
k |
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nengard |
i'll try that |
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nengard |
once i get FF to retart |
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nengard |
it crashed |
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* wizzyrea |
retarts firefox all the time, the little web vixen. |
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nengard |
grrrr lost everything i had open :( |
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oleonard |
My problem is usually not getting it to restart but getting it to stop altogether when I want it to |
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jcamins |
I think I'll continue using Chrome. |
| 16:37 |
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jcamins |
(not for offline circ, just generally) |
| 16:38 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: how do you end up with a gazillion tabs if you're always restarting the browser? |
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oleonard |
Session restore? |
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wizzyrea |
re-tart not restart |
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jcamins |
lol |
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* wizzyrea |
made a funny that wasn't funny. |
| 16:38 |
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jcamins |
I missed that. |
| 16:39 |
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wizzyrea |
plus, I use chrome P |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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slef |
mmmm... apple retarts |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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slef |
wizzyrea: do you hate freedom? ;) |
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wizzyrea |
do you? |
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slef |
well I have chromium installed but I only use it for video |
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wizzyrea |
admittedly, I don't eat fries, french or otherwise. |
| 16:42 |
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wizzyrea |
oh oh |
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slef |
its user interface makes me want to kill its makers |
| 16:42 |
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wizzyrea |
that freedom. |
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* wizzyrea |
uses chromium on linux, chrome on mac |
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slef |
it's missing features and there are next to no add-ons |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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slef |
it's very hard to stop it leaking all your data to google and websites |
| 16:43 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: not even sweet potato fries? |
| 16:43 |
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wizzyrea |
well ok, sometimes those. |
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oleonard |
Mmmm... french fries... |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I thought so. Who can resist sweet potato fries? |
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slef |
I think bad browsers like chrome is why we now have cookielaw.org |
| 16:44 |
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jcamins |
No one, that's who! |
| 16:44 |
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* oleonard |
checks the clock for proximity to lunch time |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: I think it's past lunch time in your timezone |
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oleonard |
1PM for me |
| 16:44 |
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wizzyrea |
ah so |
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slef |
*** Time by oleonard is Friday, April 13, 2012 12:44:22 PM |
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slef |
:) love ctcp |
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nengard |
k - whole computer crashed |
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nengard |
i think it's time for lunch - then i'll try this ff plugin thing again |
| 16:46 |
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nengard |
worst case i don't write a help file for it yet |
| 16:46 |
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* oleonard |
is now getting "authentication failed" from the KOCT |
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* wizzyrea |
will try it |
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nengard_lunch |
that's more than i got |
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nengard_lunch |
i was gonna record it but then my computer crashed |
| 16:48 |
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nengard_lunch |
really going to lunch now :) hehe |
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* oleonard |
gets nothing in the KOCT log when using it in Ubuntu |
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wizzyrea |
well I got it to work on ff on mac |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
but what's the difference between "apply directly" and "commit to koha" |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
commit to koha gives "success" and apply directly, if you haven't committed first, gives "added" |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
it would not do a renewal |
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wizzyrea |
check in seems to work ok |
| 16:55 |
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wizzyrea |
of course, you miss the "hold found" messages |
| 16:55 |
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wizzyrea |
if you check in one that's on hold for someone else |
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* wizzyrea |
double checks that |
| 16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
right. No hold found messages are processed anywhere. that's a bit of a bug I think. |
| 16:57 |
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wizzyrea |
at least you need to get a report out that says "hey you, double check this item" |
| 16:57 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: you mean for all check-ins? |
| 16:57 |
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wizzyrea |
for koct checkins |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: right, I meant, all check-ins done using the KOCT plugin. |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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cait |
hi all |
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cait |
:) |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
hi cait :) |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Quick (hopefully) Question: How do you create a borrowers.db file to use with the Koha Offline Circulation tool? |
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cait |
YoungPublicLibrarian: I think you need to run a script on command line for that |
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cait |
I have never tried it out so far :( |
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wizzyrea |
it's in misc/cronjobs I think |
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wizzyrea |
create_koc_db.pl |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
misc/cronjobs? I don't know what that means...:( |
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jcamins |
That's where the file is. |
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jcamins |
You'll probably need libeo to set it up for you. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
lol, maybe I should stop asking. Considering I haven't the slightest clue what libeo is either... |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: who is your support vendor? |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: I meant your support vendor, whoever they are. |
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jcamins |
I thought I remembered hearing that they won an award for their work with you. :) |
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jcamins |
I also thought I remembered hearing that a support vendor called "Libeo" won an award. |
| 17:19 |
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jcamins |
I combined the two to conclude that you worked with a vendor called Libeo. ;) |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Ah! Bywater Solutions is our vendor... |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: whoops... got you confused with a different library, I think. You're not located in Quebec, are you? |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: ByWater can generate the offline circulation database for you. |
| 17:22 |
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wizzyrea |
remember that it's always a skosh out of date |
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wizzyrea |
ad you'll have to remember to download it *before* you go offline |
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jcamins |
Sometimes more than a skosh. |
| 17:22 |
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wizzyrea |
otherwise it's no use to you |
| 17:22 |
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wizzyrea |
or of less use. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Ah okay. Well we haven't actually went live yet. But our old system is crashing and the director wanted to use the offline tool until our Koha system went live... |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: you'd need to talk to ByWater about that... I don't it'd work unless you made your old system entirely read-only until go-live. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Hmm...from what the director said ByWater suggested using it. Our old system is Voyager... |
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wizzyrea |
and it won't process renewals or fill holds. How long are we talking about |
| 17:28 |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: well, you'll definitely need to talk to ByWater. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Wizzyrea: We go live on the 23rd of April |
| 17:29 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Jcamins: Okay, thanks for all the information! |
| 17:30 |
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wizzyrea |
a week would be a long time on offline circ |
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jcamins |
I wouldn't want to use offline circ as a stopgap for more than a few days, because you won't be able to handle renewals or holds, and if ByWater doesn't have a completely current dump of your Voyager database, it'll get very, very confused. |
| 17:30 |
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wizzyrea |
right, and no adding patrons, no deleting patrons |
| 17:30 |
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jcamins |
No collecting fines. |
| 17:31 |
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jcamins |
Probably no reshelving, due to the holds issue. |
| 17:31 |
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wizzyrea |
in some ways it might be better to just use a spreadsheet, and track cards/items that way |
| 17:31 |
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jcamins |
^^ |
| 17:31 |
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wizzyrea |
and track renewals in a separate file |
| 17:31 |
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wizzyrea |
and checkins |
| 17:31 |
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wizzyrea |
because then, when you go back and put the data in on your live system |
| 17:31 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
I thought you could use the offline circ for collecting fines? |
| 17:31 |
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wizzyrea |
all of the usual things happen. |
| 17:32 |
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* wizzyrea |
was just looking at it |
| 17:32 |
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wizzyrea |
I saw no place to collect fines. |
| 17:32 |
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wizzyrea |
at least not using the firefox addon |
| 17:33 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Ah, no ByWater told us never to use the firefox addon because it was broke. They have a downloadable tool that we install on the computer and use as an application... |
| 17:33 |
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wizzyrea |
do note, we have 40 libraries, and we use a spreadsheet. |
| 17:33 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
We have over 70 libraries...but I'm sure we could manage it... |
| 17:34 |
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wizzyrea |
i haven't used the app one lately, last time I tested it, it was broken in ways that made me not want to use it. |
| 17:35 |
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wizzyrea |
but that has been a while |
| 17:35 |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: even if that supports fine collection, the reason I had in mind that you couldn't collect fines was that until ByWater gets the final dump from your Voyager database, the fine information in Koha will be unreliable. |
| 17:35 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: looks like it was last updated in October 2010. |
| 17:35 |
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wizzyrea |
not to mention not updating |
| 17:35 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Here is the link that ByWater provided us: http://millruntech.com/downloa[…]ulation-1-2-setup |
| 17:35 |
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wizzyrea |
sounds like a mess |
| 17:35 |
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wizzyrea |
yep, that's the version I last tested. |
| 17:36 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Yeah, a mess sums up the entire situation! :/ |
| 17:36 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Wizzyrea and Jcamins: Thanks for all the help! At least I understand a bit more than I did before! |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
I don't mean to sound negative - I don |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
really don't |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
it's just - a week is a long time, you probably have pretty high volume |
| 17:37 |
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wizzyrea |
no renewals, no holds processed, no fines processed (or it would be very messy if it was) |
| 17:37 |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: you might try using Voyager's offline circ, then shut down the OPAC a day early, and spend that day replaying the circs so that you can give ByWater a current dump? |
| 17:38 |
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* jcamins |
hasn't tried that. |
| 17:38 |
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jcamins |
And I have no idea how long replaying offline circs takes in Voyager. |
| 17:38 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: I think their server is like, deaths door crashing |
| 17:38 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: right, so it only has to be up for one day. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
^^ Exactly! |
| 17:38 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
We haven't been able to catalogue in almost three weeks! :( |
| 17:39 |
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wizzyrea |
yikes. |
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jcamins |
I think spreadsheets are the way to go. |
| 17:40 |
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jcamins |
A week is a *long* time, though. |
| 17:42 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
And very few people in at least half the libraries in our system have any decent understanding of spreadsheets...:S |
| 17:42 |
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wizzyrea |
here's what we do |
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wizzyrea |
column A: patron |
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wizzyrea |
column b: book barcode |
| 17:42 |
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wizzyrea |
returns can go in column d or e or f or wherever |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
then, when you are ready to replay them, you grab a page |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
and go at it, copy/paste style. |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
it's tedious. |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
it'll take a while |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
but it will work |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
and you won't miss things. |
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cait |
hm |
| 17:43 |
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cait |
you could also use 2 text files |
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cait |
one for returns and one for checouts |
| 17:43 |
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wizzyrea |
that has been done too |
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cait |
and scan the barcodes in there |
| 17:44 |
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wizzyrea |
we like spreadsheets because the data is segregated |
| 17:44 |
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cait |
but always be careful... whatever you use |
| 17:44 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, no crazy scanning. |
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wizzyrea |
go slowly, be aware. |
| 17:44 |
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wizzyrea |
like riding a motorcycle. |
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wizzyrea |
responsibly. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
It would take me 10 minutes to explain how to set up and use just the columns to most of the people in my library alone... |
| 17:47 |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: I don't think the offline circ option would be *easier*. |
| 17:47 |
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wizzyrea |
well, you've got two options - get the data and processes right, or use the offline circ |
| 17:47 |
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wizzyrea |
and really, confusion wise |
| 17:47 |
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wizzyrea |
they're about equal. |
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jcamins |
Except some people will know how to use spreadsheets. |
| 17:47 |
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wizzyrea |
and no one will know how to use offline circ. |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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talljoy_away |
YoungPublicLibrarian: hi! if you plan to use the offline circ tool, you will need a borrowers.db file and that can be given to you before your official go live date. |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: here's a suggestion: you have highschoolers as pages in a bunch of your libraries, right? |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
They're probably there during your peak periods. |
| 17:51 |
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jcamins |
Have them at the circ desks. |
| 17:51 |
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talljoy_away |
ha! more tech savvy than their elders often! |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
at least trained in excel. |
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jcamins |
talljoy_away: most of them will be able to figure out Excel, at least. |
| 17:52 |
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jcamins |
Increasingly, using spreadsheets is a skill taught in highschool. |
| 17:53 |
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jcamins |
Maybe even elementary or middle school, though I don't know anyone who has been to either of those recently. |
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talljoy |
my 8 year old knows spreadsheets better than me. lol |
| 17:53 |
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jcamins |
There you go. |
| 17:53 |
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talljoy |
had to create graphs for his science project. he had to teach me. |
| 17:53 |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: make the next week "bring your child to work week." |
| 17:53 |
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talljoy |
LOL |
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jcamins |
I am not entirely joking. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
That's not a bad idea...except it would be bring your "grand child" to work week! And only our school libraries have high schoolers for pages...Which is only about a third of our system... |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: who do you have for pages in your public libraries? |
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druthb |
o/ |
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talljoy |
hi druthb! |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
We don't...there are cataloguers and circulation assistants...most of our libraries do not use pages... |
| 18:08 |
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jcamins |
YoungPublicLibrarian: and the circ assistants do shelving? |
| 18:10 |
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* druthb |
catches up from the logs. |
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druthb |
jcamins, wizzyrea, talljoy: Part of the problem with using Voyager offline circ, as I understand it from George at Latah, is that it only does checkouts--not checkins. *INSANE* |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins |
druthb: yeah, but they can't reshelve anything anyway. |
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talljoy |
right, i guess i was referring to the offline Koha circulation. |
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jcamins |
druthb: because the Koha offline circ won't catch holds anyway. |
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talljoy |
right. and no fines |
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* druthb |
nods |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
yes, circ assistants do shelving, circ desk, computer support, and anything else needed in the library.... |
| 18:14 |
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druthb |
YoungPublicLibrarian: you're using Mibbit to chat with us in here, aren't you? Look up there^^^ there's *at least* one box flashing, indicating private messages for you. :) |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
druthb: LOL! Why yes I am! But they aren't flashing, just grey tabs showed up...and I was completely oblivious to them! |
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druthb |
:) |
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talljoy |
:-D |
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* druthb |
can't hardly use Mibbit--the message boxes are a little *too* unobtrusive; I have my Pidgin set to scream like a banshee when someone PMs me. |
| 18:18 |
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talljoy |
my pings and pings and pings all day. whenever you say my name! heh |
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oleonard |
Everyone be considerate to talljoy and only say talljoy's name when you really have something to say to talljoy |
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talljoy |
lol |
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talljoy |
ping ping |
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talljoy |
ping |
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druthb |
oleonard: That talljoy is pretty darn amazing, isn't she? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: stop picking on talljoy. |
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talljoy |
talljoy? |
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wahanui |
I CRUNCH DATA or kicking butt at words with friends |
| 18:19 |
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talljoy |
may need to update that to "enjoys seeing her name in lights" lol |
| 18:19 |
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cait |
hehe |
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* jcamins |
uses irssi, the ultimate in unobtrusive messaging. |
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nengard |
i think i'm done with the help files |
| 18:24 |
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nengard |
at the very least all the links to the manual are updated |
| 18:24 |
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nengard |
we might need some new help files ? hopefully not |
| 18:34 |
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jcamins |
nengard: I bet you could write a unit test for xt/ that would check automatically that everything had a help file. |
| 18:34 |
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nengard |
maybe someone could :) not sure if I could |
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jcamins |
It would also force people to provde help files when they add new features. |
| 18:39 |
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nengard |
what field populates the biblio.copyrightdate field? |
| 18:39 |
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nengard |
the 008 or the 260? |
| 18:42 |
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nengard |
jcamins? |
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wahanui |
somebody said jcamins was an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
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nengard |
hehe |
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cait |
260 |
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cait |
you cna only map fields |
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nengard |
thanks cait |
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cait |
not controlfields |
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cait |
you can see it in the koha-to-marc-mappings |
| 18:43 |
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jcamins |
Yes? |
| 18:43 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 18:47 |
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nengard |
:) |
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jcamins |
We should put the items table on the MARC and Labelled MARC views in the staff client, now that it no longer shows up in the MARC. |
| 19:03 |
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oleonard |
OPACViewOthersSuggestions doesn't seem to be working as I imagine it should |
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oleonard |
If AnonSuggestions and OPACViewOthersSuggestions are both on shouldn't I be able to see all suggestions even if I'm not logged in? |
| 19:04 |
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oleonard |
And if AnonSuggestions is off, should I have to be logged in to view others' suggestions? |
| 19:12 |
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oleonard |
Ugh, it's a mess. |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
oleonard: agreed |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
but yeah, only works if you are logged in |
| 19:27 |
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JesseM |
Card Catalogs still have a use! :P http://vimeo.com/39461899 |
| 19:28 |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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druthb |
hi, rangi! :) |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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wahanui |
morning is a state of mind. |
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jcamins |
JesseM: you could make it into a turing machine by using a wall of card catalogs for the game of life. |
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druthb |
morning is also whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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wahanui |
okay, druthb. |
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jcamins |
Morning |
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jcamins |
Morning? |
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wahanui |
i guess Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 19:31 |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
| 19:31 |
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wahanui |
morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 19:31 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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rangi |
https://kohakenya.wordpress.co[…]r-i-p-the-kardex/ |
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rangi |
slef: about? |
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cait |
t |
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rangi |
g |
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cait |
was so quiet :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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cait |
dpavlin++ |
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rangi |
i have that effect |
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cait |
lol |
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nengard |
@later tell paul_p i finished the help files and they're attached to bug 7936 Thanks!! |
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huginn` |
nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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oleonard |
Happy weekend all |
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cait |
happy weekend oleonard |
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cait |
hah! i did it before you logged out :) |
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cait |
and meaning it too :) |
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oleonard |
:) |
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slef |
rangi: no. why? |
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rangi |
cant remember, mustnt have been important |
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slef |
hehehe |
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slef |
new_bib?items=1 maybe? |
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slef |
or something I stuffed up on sponsorship... 2 so far today |
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rangi |
oh, kohacon, anymore things you want me to review |
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rangi |
excellent! |
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slef |
erm not sure. probably. |
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slef |
how many do you want? |
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rangi |
hmm a couple? |
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rangi |
how are we looking numbers wise for speakers now? i figure we need about 7 per day? (of conf itself) |
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slef |
not sure. I need to count up but haven't had chance today |
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rangi |
sweet as |
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rangi |
i might send another mail to the list |
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rangi |
7 days until call for papers close |
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rangi |
think it's a good idea? |
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wizzyrea |
more reminders are never a bad idea |
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wizzyrea |
see how it worked for jcamins and his authorities dev? ;) |
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wizzyrea |
HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
ill try to sign off your new_bib thing this evening too slef |
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slef |
yes it's a good idea. I really must repost this one to LIS-KOHA too |
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rangi |
ahh yes |
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rangi |
good idea |
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rangi |
on its way |
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slef |
wizzyrea: 2 people report not getting the sponsor form autoreply today. I'm going to check the form settings, but are you able to check the webserver mail logs if needed? |
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slef |
form settings look OK |
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slef |
mailing them and grabbing times and IPs to message you |
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wizzyrea |
sure I can check |
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wizzyrea |
(but it's almost time for me to go, just fyi - gotta pick up the kiddo) |
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slef |
except I'm an idiot and deleted the form times and IPs |
| 21:38 |
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slef |
but the recipient email addresses are with you now |
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slef |
no rush. I've remailed them the info |
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slef |
they're both using outsourced anti-spam |
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slef |
I bet it traps wordpress forms |
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slef |
and that folks is why I hate outsourced anti-spam. It's too often out of control rubbish that causes trouble. |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
yup |
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slef |
rangi: I bet you loved using gmail at a previous workplace... |
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rangi |
well it started off zimbra |
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rangi |
but yes moved to gmail |
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wizzyrea |
ah yea it might be spam related - it's ec2 so hard to get reverse DNS for it |
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wizzyrea |
well, not SO hard. |
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wizzyrea |
I just don't recall if I *did* or not. |
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slef |
I'll check |
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rangi |
and yeah, running your workmail through gmail .. not something id do |
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slef |
yeah, there's reverse DNS |
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wizzyrea |
oh good so it's not *that* |
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slef |
ec2-174-129-1-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com, but it's still good |
| 21:43 |
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* slef |
has been postmaster almost as long as webmaster |
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wizzyrea |
slef, must be spam catching - it's not stuck in the queue |
| 21:47 |
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wizzyrea |
and looks like it technically sent ok |
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slef |
wizzyrea: can you se... right, thanks. |
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slef |
questions answered before they're asked :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
i'm efficient like that ;) |
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slef |
wizzyrea++ |
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slef |
biab |
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wizzyrea |
do lmk if you see a lot of that though |
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wizzyrea |
it would be nice to know why people think it's spam |
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rangi |
it could be just that wordpress forms were(are?) used a lot to spam through |
| 21:52 |
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wizzyrea |
could be |
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rangi |
ok, off to hang out with the hippies and peaceniks |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
30th anniversary of wellington becoming nuke free |
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rangi |
have good weekends all |
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ibeardslee |
rangi: wow, didn't know that. |
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jcamins_away |
lol |
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jcamins_away |
Reminders did seem to help with 7284, didn't they? |
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