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Message |
| 00:13 |
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mtj |
obligatory friday doggy vs. kitty pics -> http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-st[…]gs/four-legs-good :) |
| 00:17 |
|
libsysguy |
anybody know how to checkout a single file in git from a local branch? |
| 00:30 |
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| 00:30 |
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rangi |
wow |
| 00:30 |
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rangi |
i have no idea what that email is about |
| 00:42 |
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libsysguy |
is there something I have to do with git bz to be able to attach bugs? |
| 00:42 |
|
libsysguy |
it keeps failing |
| 00:42 |
|
rangi |
it has a short timeout |
| 00:42 |
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rangi |
you have to be speedy |
| 00:43 |
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libsysguy |
oh lol |
| 00:43 |
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libsysguy |
ok ill try and hit yes in under a second lol |
| 00:43 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 00:43 |
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rangi |
the rest of it works apply etc ? |
| 00:43 |
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libsysguy |
damn…I don't think i can hit it any faster |
| 00:43 |
|
libsysguy |
yeah applies work |
| 00:43 |
|
rangi |
hmm |
| 00:43 |
|
libsysguy |
i get an html page returned |
| 00:43 |
|
libsysguy |
and a status 200 message |
| 00:44 |
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rangi |
oh hmm |
| 00:44 |
|
rangi |
wats the html page say? |
| 00:44 |
|
libsysguy |
We were unable to store the file you uploaded because of incomplete information |
| 00:44 |
|
libsysguy |
in the form you just submitted. Because we are unable to retain the file between |
| 00:44 |
|
libsysguy |
form submissions, you must re-attach the file in addition to completing the |
| 00:44 |
|
libsysguy |
remaining missing information above. |
| 00:44 |
|
libsysguy |
but im not really sure whats above |
| 00:45 |
|
libsysguy |
it looks like its all hidden fields |
| 00:45 |
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rangi |
ahh yeah that looks like some weird timeout thingy |
| 00:45 |
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libsysguy |
damn |
| 00:45 |
|
rangi |
old fashioned way eh |
| 00:46 |
|
rangi |
git-format-patch |
| 00:46 |
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libsysguy |
yeah I guess thats the way its going to be today |
| 00:46 |
|
libsysguy |
libsysguy, the 23 year old, old fashioned guy |
| 00:46 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 00:46 |
|
mtj |
for me, the timeout is around 3-5 secs |
| 00:47 |
|
libsysguy |
fitting i guess since i still refuse to use guis on a server |
| 00:47 |
|
libsysguy |
hmm |
| 00:47 |
|
rangi |
http://findingheroes.co.nz/201[…]r-than-you-think/ |
| 00:48 |
|
mtj |
libsysguy, thats not old-fashioned... that just smart :) |
| 00:49 |
|
libsysguy |
heh thanks mtj |
| 00:49 |
|
mtj |
rangi++ :) |
| 01:03 |
|
libsysguy |
rangi im almost embarrassed to ask this, but when I made those changes for hourly circ I did it in the branch that I did the instant checkin work. I was able to generate a patch for the hourly circ to work but when I tried to add my work for instant checkin it says that there are no changes. That work didn't go in the patch that i generated…do you know what I might have done wrong |
| 01:04 |
|
rangi |
hmm you didnt git stash it or something? |
| 01:04 |
|
mtj |
rangi: do you think the updatedatabase.pl script dying with DEBUG=1 is a feature, or bug ? :) |
| 01:04 |
|
libsysguy |
heh |
| 01:04 |
|
rangi |
feature |
| 01:04 |
|
libsysguy |
ugh yes…rangi++ |
| 01:04 |
|
rangi |
since we explcityly tell it to die mtj |
| 01:05 |
|
mtj |
i wonder if i should log it as a bug, and submit a patch sing eval{} , to 'fix' it ? |
| 01:05 |
|
libsysguy |
forgot I did that in the excitement of fixing hourly…damn it |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
hell no |
| 01:05 |
|
rangi |
its a handy feature for finding actual errors |
| 01:05 |
|
mtj |
rangi: ok :) |
| 01:06 |
|
rangi |
the bug would be running debug mode in production :) |
| 01:06 |
|
mtj |
yeah... you are right |
| 01:08 |
|
mtj |
the fix would be for update code to check if foreign-keys, tables , column, sysprefs , etc... actually exist - before attempting to create them? |
| 01:08 |
|
mtj |
... and display a message either way |
| 01:09 |
|
rangi |
yeah that would be the best fix |
| 01:09 |
|
mtj |
those red warning! type errors during upgrade, still freak most people out |
| 01:10 |
|
mtj |
and its still scary trying to guess what update warnings are harmless or fatal, etc (for the average person) |
| 01:10 |
|
rangi |
*nod* |
| 01:11 |
|
libsysguy |
@later tell oleonard are you working on rebasing bug 5079? |
| 01:11 |
|
huginn |
libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:11 |
|
rangi |
checking first, before trying to add a column etc |
| 01:11 |
|
rangi |
would be good |
| 01:11 |
|
mtj |
yea, perhaps even some general update subs() to do those boring tasks |
| 01:12 |
|
rangi |
*nod* |
| 01:12 |
|
mtj |
would be a satisfiying little project :) |
| 01:12 |
|
rangi |
using dbh->table_info |
| 01:12 |
|
mtj |
check_table(), check_col(), check_syspref() etc... |
| 01:12 |
|
rangi |
and column_info |
| 01:13 |
|
rangi |
you could do it database independently |
| 01:13 |
|
rangi |
http://search.cpan.org/~timb/D[…]DBI.pm#table_info |
| 01:13 |
|
rangi |
something like that |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
http://search.cpan.org/~timb/D[…]#foreign_key_info |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
etc |
| 01:14 |
|
rangi |
subs to wrap around those in the updater might be the way to go |
| 01:15 |
|
mtj |
oui, très élégant |
| 01:16 |
|
mtj |
ok, thanks for the advice :) |
| 01:16 |
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rangi |
no worries |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
| 02:31 |
|
Oak |
hello my hearties |
| 02:34 |
|
Oak |
later my hearies |
| 02:34 |
|
Oak |
crap |
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* kmkale |
rangi seems to be having "Happy ... Days" Good for him :) |
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Amit_Gupta |
heya kmkale |
| 05:25 |
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| 05:33 |
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cait |
hi #koha |
| 05:37 |
|
bag |
heya Amit_Gupta |
| 05:37 |
|
bag |
yo cait |
| 05:37 |
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cait |
hi bag |
| 06:05 |
|
mtj |
random perlcritic Q.... |
| 06:06 |
|
mtj |
does anyone know that this is all aboot? |
| 06:06 |
|
mtj |
Subroutine prototypes used at line 314, column 1. See page 194 of PBP. (Severity: 5) |
| 06:06 |
|
alex_a |
bonjour |
| 06:06 |
|
mtj |
i guess a sub-prototype is like this... |
| 06:06 |
|
mtj |
sub output_html_with_http_headers ($$$;$) { |
| 06:07 |
|
mtj |
so, if thats bad m'kay.... whats the fix for it? |
| 06:08 |
|
mtj |
changing the ($$$$;$) to () , stops perlcritic bitching (thats good) |
| 06:08 |
|
mtj |
but it also give a compilation-error :/ |
| 06:08 |
|
cait |
hm |
| 06:08 |
|
cait |
I think perhaps it's in the book |
| 06:08 |
|
cait |
but I don't have that :( |
| 06:10 |
|
mtj |
yep, page 194 :p |
| 06:10 |
|
mtj |
oooh, i got it ;) |
| 06:11 |
|
mtj |
this is bad.... |
| 06:11 |
|
mtj |
sub output_html_with_http_headers ($$$;$) { |
| 06:11 |
|
mtj |
this is good... |
| 06:12 |
|
mtj |
sub output_html_with_http_headers { |
| 06:12 |
|
mtj |
see, no prototypes used.. :) |
| 06:12 |
|
cait |
this is beyond my programming skills still |
| 06:13 |
|
cait |
I am still reading modern perl :) |
| 06:21 |
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mtj |
theres a bit of info about the net, on the topic |
| 06:22 |
|
mtj |
http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]on-prototypes-bad |
| 06:22 |
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mtj |
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=861966 |
| 06:22 |
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mtj |
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=406231 |
| 06:23 |
|
mtj |
ha, the last link is from grant.m at catalyst,nz ;) |
| 06:23 |
|
mtj |
"I recently had cause to resurrect my sermon against inappropriate use of Perl prototypes at a Perl Mongers meeting. I thought it might be of interest to some here too." |
| 06:26 |
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| 06:28 |
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mtj |
its nice to see grant also prefers this type of syntax... |
| 06:28 |
|
mtj |
sub border_style { |
| 06:29 |
|
mtj |
my($width, $style, $colour) = @_; |
| 06:29 |
|
mtj |
to this type... |
| 06:29 |
|
mtj |
sub border_style ($$$) { |
| 06:30 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 06:31 |
|
mtj |
this next one is my pet HATE.... |
| 06:31 |
|
mtj |
sub foo() { |
| 06:32 |
|
mtj |
my $x = shift; |
| 06:32 |
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mtj |
my $y = shift; |
| 06:32 |
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mtj |
my $z = shift; |
| 06:32 |
|
mtj |
rather than just... |
| 06:32 |
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mtj |
sub foo() { |
| 06:33 |
|
mtj |
my ($x, $y, $z) = @_; |
| 06:34 |
|
cait |
I am still very much at the beginning with perl |
| 06:35 |
|
cait |
but the second looks better to me |
| 06:36 |
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mtj |
oops, that should really be... |
| 06:36 |
|
mtj |
'sub foo { |
| 06:36 |
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mtj |
with no () |
| 06:38 |
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mtj |
"you don't want the '()' after the name of the sub - it should be 'sub foo {...'. With the '()' you are saying that foo accepts no arguments, which is not what you want in this case " |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:38 |
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cait |
hi reiveune |
| 06:38 |
|
cait |
and bye all - bbiab |
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mtj |
yep. i'm off too... ciao #koha |
| 06:42 |
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matts |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha! |
| 06:51 |
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Brooke |
kiiiaaora ;) |
| 06:51 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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mbalmer |
re |
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sophie_m |
hi #koha |
| 06:57 |
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Brooke |
hey sophie |
| 06:57 |
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magnuse |
hiya sophie_m |
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alex_a |
papa !! |
| 07:03 |
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* Brooke |
hugs francharb |
| 07:03 |
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francharb |
francharb, hugs Brooke |
| 07:03 |
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francharb |
;) |
| 07:03 |
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francharb |
hello #koha |
| 07:03 |
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Brooke |
drinking without me is a sin, you know :P |
| 07:03 |
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francharb |
;) |
| 07:04 |
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Joubu |
hello |
| 07:05 |
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* Brooke |
pauses to consider how the last statement manages to stack up against the life decisions that result at looking at a record for Verus Sacerdos. |
| 07:05 |
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francharb |
it was more like testing drinks than _drinking drinking! ;) |
| 07:05 |
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Brooke |
oh okay |
| 07:05 |
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francharb |
it was fun the same way |
| 07:05 |
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Brooke |
as long as you were bugtesting then it's fine |
| 07:05 |
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francharb |
sure! |
| 07:05 |
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francharb |
;) |
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kf |
back |
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gaetan_B |
hello! |
| 07:19 |
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kf |
god morgen magnuse :) |
| 07:20 |
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kf |
hi gaetan_B :) |
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kf |
hi macphisto |
| 07:22 |
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macphisto |
hi everybody! |
| 07:22 |
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Brooke |
hey there |
| 07:22 |
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kf |
hi Brooke |
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| 08:11 |
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slef |
@query guarantor |
| 08:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5422 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Separate state field for patron's adresses |
| 08:11 |
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slef |
hi all ;) |
| 08:11 |
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kf |
hi slef |
| 08:11 |
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Brooke |
hi |
| 08:11 |
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wahanui |
hello, Brooke |
| 08:11 |
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slef |
kf: thanks for the email |
| 08:11 |
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slef |
@query Organization |
| 08:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2699 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Organization for Reports |
| 08:11 |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6698 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Detail page for organisations should show only valid fields |
| 08:12 |
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slef |
Does anyone else use||want organisations to guarantee other organisations? |
| 08:12 |
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Brooke |
did that get asked on list a while back? |
| 08:12 |
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slef |
it looks like it might be a UI-only change |
| 08:12 |
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juan_sieira |
good morning #koha |
| 08:12 |
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slef |
Brooke: oooh I've no memory, will search |
| 08:12 |
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* Brooke |
has a deja vu kind of feeling about that |
| 08:12 |
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slef |
hi juan_sieira |
| 08:13 |
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juan_sieira |
hi magnuse |
| 08:13 |
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Brooke |
it might also have been in the Patron Reports sidebar, or I can totally be imagining it... |
| 08:13 |
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magnuse |
hola juan_sieira |
| 08:14 |
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juan_sieira |
magnuse: i'm changing thouse files now, but I think I'll add a "update" on the bottom of those sql files |
| 08:15 |
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slef |
Brooke: I'm getting mainly hits on obnoxious footer disclaimers when I try to search the list for "Organization" and "guarantee" |
| 08:15 |
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juan_sieira |
magnuse: instead of changing all of the lines on all of them¡ |
| 08:15 |
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magnuse |
juan_sieira: |
| 08:15 |
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magnuse |
that might be a good idea |
| 08:15 |
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slef |
Brooke: can you try self-hypnosis to extract any more possible search terms? ;-) |
| 08:16 |
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magnuse |
juan_sieira: i'm using the sql files exported from the Web UI, so the maxlength column gets included there, and you don't have to worry about the normarc files |
| 08:16 |
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magnuse |
i'll take the blame if anyone has a problem with that :-) |
| 08:16 |
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juan_sieira |
ok |
| 08:16 |
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juan_sieira |
thanks magnus |
| 08:17 |
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juan_sieira |
i'll change the other files, and the updatedatabase |
| 08:18 |
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juan_sieira |
magnuse: when I changed updatedatabase, in sysprefs there is only the option between marc21|unimarc, that is because I didn't include normarc into it |
| 08:19 |
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magnuse |
the options for marcflavour? |
| 08:19 |
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magnuse |
normarc should be there... |
| 08:19 |
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juan_sieira |
yes.. I think, but now I'll include it |
| 08:21 |
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kf |
slef: I think Brooke is thinking about staff users should be able to have childs |
| 08:21 |
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magnuse |
yay! :-) |
| 08:22 |
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Brooke |
no I'm thinking that what slef is talking about |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
ok :) |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
and now... thinking about it |
| 08:22 |
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kf |
you are right |
| 08:23 |
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kf |
multilevel organisational patrons |
| 08:23 |
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Brooke |
is having summat like the Boys and Girls club being able to vouch for the Vincent de Paul or vice versa |
| 08:23 |
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kf |
there was somethin |
| 08:25 |
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slef |
Found 0 matching posts for multilevel organisational patrons in Koha |
| 08:25 |
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kf |
I think it was on the mailing list perhaps |
| 08:25 |
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Brooke |
meh |
| 08:26 |
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Brooke |
ask it again if all you're finding is vague memories anyway |
| 08:26 |
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Brooke |
plus |
| 08:26 |
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Brooke |
it was long enough ago that stuff prolly has changed |
| 08:28 |
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kf |
slef: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]tn-td4999474.html |
| 08:29 |
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kf |
hm that was only display |
| 08:29 |
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kf |
using othernames for the patron organisaton |
| 08:29 |
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magnuse |
bug 6697 |
| 08:29 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons |
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* magnuse |
dunno |
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kmkale |
Namaste #koha |
| 08:30 |
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Brooke |
Namaskar |
| 08:31 |
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slef |
kf: thank you! biab! |
| 08:31 |
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slef |
magnuse: thanks too! |
| 08:34 |
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kmkale |
namaste magnuse slef Brooke |
| 08:34 |
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magnuse |
namaskar kmkale |
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hdl |
hi juan_sieira |
| 08:34 |
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juan_sieira |
hi hdl |
| 08:34 |
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hdl |
hi all |
| 08:34 |
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juan_sieira |
this morning I'll return to Zebra works¡ |
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kf |
:) |
| 08:35 |
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juan_sieira |
but I have to tell you about something in facets, in a moment |
| 08:35 |
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juan_sieira |
I'm pushing a path now |
| 08:35 |
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kmkale |
Namaste kf hdl |
| 08:35 |
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Brooke |
oooh |
| 08:35 |
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Brooke |
I <3 facets |
| 08:35 |
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juan_sieira |
s/path/patch/ |
| 08:35 |
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kf |
hi kmkale :) |
| 08:35 |
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hdl |
Namaste kmkale and Brooke |
| 08:36 |
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Brooke |
how goes the flying frenchman? |
| 08:37 |
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kmkale |
what does <3 mean? |
| 08:37 |
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magnuse |
it's a heart! :-) |
| 08:38 |
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juan_sieira |
it's a kiss?? |
| 08:38 |
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magnuse |
rotate it 90 degrees anti-clockwise... |
| 08:39 |
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juan_sieira |
:) |
| 08:39 |
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Brooke |
magnuse is right :D |
| 08:39 |
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juan_sieira |
imagination has no frontiers |
| 08:40 |
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magnuse |
juan_sieira++ |
| 08:40 |
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asaurat |
<3 looks like ice cream to me |
| 08:41 |
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magnuse |
yum! |
| 08:42 |
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kf |
yum! |
| 08:42 |
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Brooke |
http://www.s-luca.co.uk/ |
| 08:42 |
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Brooke |
just sayin |
| 08:43 |
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juan_sieira |
hdl: is there paul? |
| 08:43 |
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hdl |
juan_sieira: paul has a headache. And should be there in a few hours. |
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Brooke |
juan, you've magical powers! |
| 08:44 |
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juan_sieira |
magnuse: I submit a new bug to correct what you said to me. The only file I didn't change is the normarc file. This is in your hands |
| 08:44 |
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juan_sieira |
Brooke: ..... I know... |
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magnuse |
juan_sieira: cool, thanks |
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kmkale |
ooh Brooke did you have icecreams when you were here? |
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Brooke |
I had some kulfi, but it was kinda so so |
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paul_p |
good morning world |
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Brooke |
my bad, cause I didn't get off the beaten track nearly as often as I ought to have |
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Brooke |
morning paul |
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Brooke |
I did have a mango vanilla pop at some point, but that was just prepackaged stuff. |
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* Brooke |
navigates cities by eateries. |
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kmkale |
nah I should have taken you ppl to some really nice icecream shops |
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kmkale |
I remember telling Jo about the best being right opposit your hotel |
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Brooke |
that would have required us to stop oogling fabric long enough for you to do so. XD |
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kmkale |
:_D |
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kmkale |
:-D |
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kmkale |
namaste paul_p |
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paul_p |
spring arrived in MArseille (24°C today)... ice cream time coming ;-) |
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kmkale |
:) |
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kf |
spring time here too - not that warm, but nice |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.4°C (10:54 AM CEST on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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kmkale |
@weather mumbai |
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huginn |
kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0°C (2:10 PM IST on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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kmkale |
it will go up to 40°C with humidity crossing 90 :( |
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juan_sieira |
does anybody got a laptop with a hybrid hd here? |
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hdl |
hybrid hd ? solid state and other ? |
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juan_sieira |
its a hd with a little ssd inside, 500gb normal + 16gb ssd |
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juan_sieira |
like the samsung np530u4b |
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hdl |
lucky you :D |
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juan_sieira |
hdl: I'm hunting for the perfect notebook |
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juan_sieira |
hdl: this samsung it's a good choice, so It has a hybrid disk, and I don't know if I could used with linux. I know about people that cannot change the operating system in it ... |
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* kmkale |
likes http://www.dell.com/in/p/xps-13-l321x/pd |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7821 follow-up: escaping {} in regexp <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d5af3e3f3e19ea22> / Bug 7821 - {langcode} will be replaced with current interface language <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]80e0ff1b438a8d9f6> / Bug 4032 follow-up: removing ` in syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co |
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magnuse |
feels like spring here to, but it's gonna snow tomorrow... |
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vfernandes |
hi guys |
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vfernandes |
in the last weeks i've struggling with some encoding problems that only in some Koha pages: opac-MARCDetail, intranet MARCDetail, addbooks, additems and when using XSLT |
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vfernandes |
http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bi[…]iblionumber=92089 |
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vfernandes |
this page is a example of what is happening |
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vfernandes |
the accent character are all mess up... but in the database are correct |
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vfernandes |
database is in UTF8, apache is also in UFT8 as the locale |
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kf |
vfernandes: hm, those are pulled from the database |
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kf |
I think they are broken in the database - I have seen that before when I was not careful with my sql for the bibliographic frameworks |
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kf |
vfernandes: try changing the description for one of those broken fields in administration > bibliographic marc frameworks |
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kf |
and see if that fixes it |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #690 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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vfernandes |
i will change the field 101 |
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kf |
vfernandes: nice layout! |
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vfernandes |
kf: thanks :) but changing didn't solve |
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kf |
hmm |
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kf |
you changed both, opac and lib description? |
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kf |
for the field 101? |
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kf |
reentering it from your keyboard? |
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vfernandes |
yes, for the same description but reentered from the keyboard |
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kf |
using memcache? |
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vfernandes |
no |
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kf |
hm |
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vfernandes |
the problem seems to append in three tables: tags, branches and itemtypes |
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kf |
and it appears correctly when you open it in the editor in administration? |
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vfernandes |
*seems to appear |
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vfernandes |
yes in the editor works fine |
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kf |
sorry, I am a bit out of ideas |
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kf |
I have not seen that before |
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vfernandes |
thanks anyway kf |
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vfernandes |
i'm going now for a meeting |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #690: UNSTABLE in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/690/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* mjr: Bug 7729 : svc/bib: support appending ?items=1 to the URL to fetch or modify items |
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jenkins_koha |
* stephane.delaune: Bug 4032 XSLT systempreference takes a path to file rather than YesNo |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 4032 follow-up: DBRev number |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 4032 follow-up: removing ` in syspref |
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jenkins_koha |
* dpavlin: Bug 7821 - {langcode} will be replaced with current interface language |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: bug 7821 follow-up: escaping {} in regexp |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , svc API should allow modification of items |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference multi-language support |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7387] Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387> |
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slef |
baa |
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* paul_p |
head to lunch |
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Oak |
kia ora my hearties |
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mib_pwxs2g |
hallo guys, just installed koha, and it was working well. on rebooting the computer then this error came up:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. what could be the problem? my koha is running on ubuntu 11.04 |
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juan_sieira |
your mysql server is stopped |
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mib_pwxs2g |
how can i make it run? |
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juan_sieira |
just exec this command: /etc/init.d/mysql start |
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juan_sieira |
did you install mysql server??, if not do: sudo apt-get install mysql-server |
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mib_pwxs2g |
will that not affect the koha files? |
| 11:04 |
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juan_sieira |
no |
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mib_pwxs2g |
then does this mean that i will have to create another koha database? |
| 11:05 |
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slef |
hopefully not! |
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slef |
if it asks you to, pause and let people suggest other things to check! |
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juan_sieira |
did you start mysql server? |
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mib_pwxs2g |
well, it gave this as the result: rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, eg service mysql start. |
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juan_sieira |
ok, exec: service mysql start |
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juan_sieira |
with sudo, it you're not root |
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mib_pwxs2g |
it gives the following as the results: start: job is already running: mysql |
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mib_pwxs2g |
but it is still giving the initial error on the browser. |
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juan_sieira |
you can check the file koha-conf.xml, at the bottom, host user ... parameter of your mysql server |
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juan_sieira |
this file it's in your install folder / etc / koha-conf.xml |
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mib_pwxs2g |
ok let me check. |
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mib_pwxs2g |
what should i check on the koha-conf.xml |
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juan_sieira |
hostname and port |
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juan_sieira |
should be localhost and 3306 |
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mib_pwxs2g |
i cant see these values. its just a bunch of zebra and other stuff |
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slef |
juan_sieira is wrong |
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slef |
not 3306 anyway |
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slef |
let me open my koha-conf.xml |
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slef |
oh no, he's right |
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slef |
it just ignores 3306 |
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slef |
it's right near the end |
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slef |
can you see it mib_pwxs2g ? |
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slef |
<config> |
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slef |
<db_scheme>mysql</db_scheme> |
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slef |
<database>... |
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slef |
try running: mysql -u USERNAME-GIVEN-IN-THERE -p DATABASE-GIVEN-IN-THERE |
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slef |
and see if you can log in |
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mib_pwxs2g |
am getting this error when i try to access my koha on the browser: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can i solve it? |
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mib_pwxs2g |
am getting this error when i try to access my koha on the browser: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can i solve it? |
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slef |
mib_pwxs2g: fine. Ignore me. |
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slef |
mib_pwxs2g: please don't repeat yourself. |
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mib_pwxs2g |
am getting this error on mysql installation.:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can isolve it?? |
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mib_pwxs2g |
am getting this error on mysql installation.:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can isolve it?? |
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mib_pwxs2g |
Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. |
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mib_pwxs2g |
hallo |
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mib_pwxs2g |
sorry, how can i solve it? |
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slef |
it means koha cannot login to mysql |
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slef |
see if you can login with: mysql -u USERNAME-GIVEN-IN-KOHA_CONF -p DATABASE-GIVEN-IN-THERE |
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slef |
using the details from koha-conf.xml |
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slef |
it is almost always a problem with how one set up mysql, rather than koha |
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mib_pwxs2g |
ok let me see if this will solve. |
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slef |
mib_pwxs2g: it will not solve, but it will give more information. |
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mib_pwxs2g |
this happened after running chown -R mysql and some path command |
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slef |
mib_pwxs2g: were you told that here? |
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slef |
wahanui: logs? |
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wahanui |
logs is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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slef |
wizzyrea: I think you have an email for me. Sorry for not checking the settings enough! |
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slef |
@seen wizzyrea |
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huginn |
slef: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 51 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> hmm. MaxReserves? |
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slef |
mib_pwxs2g: sorry but I'm going to be away for an hour now. Maybe someone else can help you, if you can say what that chown command was. |
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kf |
slef: problems with navigation on kc.org? |
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slef |
kf: what problems? |
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kf |
the navigation bar looks a bit wrong |
| 11:59 |
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slef |
which one? |
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wahanui |
well, which one is it |
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kf |
and the longer license text does not work for me - becaue I can't read all of it |
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kf |
the subnavigation for kohacon12 |
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slef |
looking |
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slef |
kf: looks fine for me. Can you screenshot? |
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kf |
yep sec |
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slef |
http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/call-papers/ is posted, please get submitting if it works for you! |
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slef |
kf: bbi60, will try to fix then, plus post some announcements |
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slef |
kf: wow, freaky on the top nav - do you get something similar in Support? |
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kf |
oh I do |
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kf |
weird |
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slef |
theme or browser bug :( |
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slef |
which browser? |
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kf |
firefox 9.0.1 |
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kf |
I think it used to work |
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kf |
I have been using documentation and support before without noticing it |
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slef |
I'm in 3. I'll check in 8 later but I'm not in a place I can upgrade to 9. |
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slef |
Also we could look for a new release of GP2 |
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kf |
I will tell wizzyrea later |
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slef |
the theme |
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kf |
ah ok |
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slef |
it's in Appearance: Themes in the wp-admin |
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slef |
if you beat me to it |
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slef |
also the form thingy, losing half a letter doesn't worry me. Should it? |
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slef |
I could just drop the "- or change this" |
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slef |
but I wanted to put in a helpful default |
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slef |
actually it should be GPLv2+ like Koha |
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slef |
let me fix that |
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slef |
fixed |
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slef |
biab |
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kf |
slef: I wondered if the text continued |
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kf |
so got a little confused |
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slef |
kf: I shortened it a little |
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kf |
if we could make it fit in the box would be a bit nicer |
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kf |
cool |
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slef |
kf: not sure if enough |
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kf |
I think you can also define more hints about the fields |
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kf |
on hover |
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slef |
kf: your text is big |
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slef |
ah is that what goes after the last |? |
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slef |
I'll do that if people start cocking it up |
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kf |
if you click on the edit symbol it opens a popup - but yes, I think so |
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kf |
my text is big? |
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slef |
yeah, it's nowhere near the right-edge of the box for me... about 4em away |
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kf |
oh |
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slef |
Windows? |
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wahanui |
Windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server. |
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kf |
not sure, perhaps I increased the script size in the browser settings somewhere |
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slef |
wahanui: I LOVE YOU |
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wahanui |
slef: i'm not following you... |
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kf |
lol |
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slef |
wahanui: die! |
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wahanui |
errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! |
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kf |
quite torturing poor wahanui |
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kf |
wahanui botsnack antidote |
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wahanui |
:) |
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Oak |
can I increase the size of book cover images in details page... |
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kf |
you could use css I think...but they might get blurry |
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kf |
hi oleonard :) |
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oleonard |
Hi |
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wahanui |
what's up, oleonard |
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Oak |
hmm |
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oleonard |
libsysguy around? |
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libsysguy |
yeah |
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libsysguy |
whats up oleonard |
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oleonard |
I'm not working on bug 5079, why do you ask? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs |
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libsysguy |
it just said it was assigned to you and for some reason I thought that had changed from a few days ago |
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kf |
libsysguy: there is a history link on every bug (I just discovered that recently) that's cool for checking if someone changed something |
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oleonard |
Oh, I'm just the default assignee for OPAC bugs |
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libsysguy |
I was about to rebase my work on it last night but didn't want to start something you were working on |
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libsysguy |
and ahhh ok |
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libsysguy |
kf++ i didn't know this either |
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oleonard |
Oh, and you're the one that assigned it to me libsysguy :P |
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libsysguy |
LOL |
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jcamins_away |
Hehe. Wishful thinking? :) |
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libsysguy |
oleonard do I need to take it back? |
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oleonard |
If you're working on it, yes |
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libsysguy |
well after I saw where nengard spotted it i got scared :p |
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nengard |
?? |
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nengard |
i'm not scary :) |
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libsysguy |
I've seen you in training action |
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libsysguy |
nengard is very scary :p |
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nengard |
LOL |
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nengard |
I'm only scary if you don't want to learn |
| 12:40 |
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nengard |
then I beat the knowledge in to you :) |
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libsysguy |
@quote add I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you |
| 12:41 |
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huginn |
libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 12:42 |
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libsysguy |
dang it I know im using that wrong |
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Oak |
getting this: |
| 12:42 |
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Oak |
Software error: |
| 12:42 |
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Oak |
Can't use string ("00800nam a22002537a 450000100050") as an ARRAY ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1493. |
| 12:42 |
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Oak |
For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([no address given]), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. |
| 12:43 |
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Oak |
getting this when search for "Marketing" on OPAC, then on page 2, click on this book with link: http://10.16.18.71/cgi-bin/koh[…]l?biblionumber=24 |
| 12:43 |
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nengard |
libsysguy i never learned how to add quotes ... |
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nengard |
druthb knows how though |
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libsysguy |
@quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you |
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huginn |
libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 12:44 |
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nengard |
looks like you're not registered |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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libsysguy |
its sad because that was a good one |
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libsysguy |
identify libsysguy |
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libsysguy |
info libsysguy |
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oleonard |
libsysguy: Not sure what you're trying to do, but IRC commands require a "/" before them |
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tcohen |
hi #koha |
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libsysguy |
jw how to register with nickserv |
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libsysguy |
@quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you |
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huginn |
libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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libsysguy |
dang it…I am registered :'( |
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nengard |
LOL |
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libsysguy |
@quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you |
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huginn |
libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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libsysguy |
crap |
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kf |
@later tell slef should we set an end date for paper submissions? so that we can start to put a program together? |
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huginn |
kf: The operation succeeded. |
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Oak |
only this: http://10.16.18.71/cgi-bin/koh[…]l?biblionumber=24 is giving that error. other entries, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, ... etc are working okay. what can be the reason?? |
| 13:17 |
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oleonard |
Oak: Should we be able to follow that link? It times out for me |
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Oak |
uh oh it local link... let me paste the error on pastebin |
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Oak |
here oleonard :http://pastebin.com/Rp2LFNL1 |
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Oak |
http://pastebin.com/Rp2LFNL1 |
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slef |
kf: I think we're close enough first come first served-if-passed-by-reviewers would work, don't you? |
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kf |
slef: I think it would make people submit their talks a bit faster |
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kf |
slef: having a deadline helps |
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kf |
we could always extend if there are not enough talks |
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slef |
kf: what would you say? 20 April? |
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slef |
but implore people to submit sooner |
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slef |
it's an easy form |
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slef |
we're not asking for full info |
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Oak |
any comment oleonard ? |
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hdl |
gmcharlt: slef have you ever used FID_SORT_BIN in SIP ? |
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slef |
hdl: I don't know that we have. |
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Oak |
oleonard, anybody, is this what I think is the cause of my error: Mar 30 18:22:50 aridkoha smartd[1716]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors |
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oleonard |
Sorry Oak, the error doesn't mean anything to me |
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Oak |
what about this smartd line from syslog? |
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hdl |
it is all about the sorting engine |
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Oak |
great. thanks guys. |
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slef |
updated http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/visa-info/ to ask for hotel info and link to sources of it |
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wizzyrea |
Oak - that's probably bad sectors on your hard disk |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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* magnuse |
wanders off |
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kf |
slef: 20th sounds fine for me |
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kf |
slef: I think most people postpone things like that ( I do) so having a deadline hopefully will help :) |
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slef |
kf: could you add it? I'm currently trying to get invitation letters into the air mail before Last Post |
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kf |
I will do a little later |
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kf |
electricity will go out here in 50 min (some maintenance thing) |
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slef |
kf: ouch |
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oleonard |
Electric and phone went out for some people here yesterday because someone cut the cables to sell for scrap |
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slef |
oleonard: oh that keeps happening here |
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slef |
oleonard: near BR's place a couple of years ago, they tried to cut a live electic feed |
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slef |
electric |
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slef |
took them out for weeks |
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oleonard |
Crazy. |
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slef |
it's all due to what people will pay for scrap No Questions Asked |
| 14:14 |
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slef |
there's an inexplicable push to stop cash payments for scrap to stop it |
| 14:14 |
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slef |
but what really would help is having to show ID to be paid cash |
| 14:16 |
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jcamins |
Good morning, #koha. |
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slef |
and properly note what came from whom |
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slef |
is gbenga on here? |
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slef |
wahanui: meetings? |
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wahanui |
i don't know, slef |
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slef |
wahanui: IRC meetings? |
| 14:19 |
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wahanui |
IRC meetings are how most things are decided, so definitely put it on the agenda for discussion |
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slef |
http://meetings.koha-community.org/ |
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slef |
wahanui: logs |
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wahanui |
logs is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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slef |
adding deadline before kf does :) |
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kf |
heh ok |
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kf |
bbl |
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slef |
wizzyrea: the Events category checkbox is greyed out! |
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wizzyrea |
did you add an event? |
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wizzyrea |
scroll down until you see the + |
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wizzyrea |
then add your dates |
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slef |
wizzyrea: no. |
| 14:49 |
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wizzyrea |
it should auto add the event category |
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slef |
wizzyrea: I'll do that. But maybe this is why there are few things in the events category? |
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wizzyrea |
possibly |
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slef |
wow that's a bad UI |
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slef |
needs much better motor control than I have to select particular times |
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wizzyrea |
you can type them in |
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slef |
click and drag to pick a number |
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slef |
oh that wasn't obvious :( |
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slef |
usually when I try that it either ignores me or just opens a widget anyway |
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slef |
so I give up and just use it now :( |
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slef |
wizzyrea: thanks for the help |
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wizzyrea |
sure :) |
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slef |
now I must do more Real Work TM while I wait for the invitation letters to arrive |
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slef |
I have no printer any more. Have to send them out. |
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wizzyrea |
d'oh! |
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jcamins |
slef: yeah, we don't have a printer, either. |
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* wizzyrea |
has a printer, it's not currently hooked up though |
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jcamins |
It committed suicide by explosion two days before we were due to move. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: well, technically, mine's the same. |
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wizzyrea |
that would like, require furniture. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: except mine is on the other side of England to me. |
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wizzyrea |
yikes! |
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slef |
wizzyrea: the fun of relocation |
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jcamins |
So in other words, everyone in this conversation other than me actually has a printer. :P |
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wizzyrea |
you're telling me :) |
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* wizzyrea |
just moved too |
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* jcamins |
too |
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* slef |
not yet |
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Joubu |
goodbye! |
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oleonard |
Thanks for the photos paul_p ! |
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oleonard |
For those who haven't tested Bug 7781, see attachment 8720 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7781 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Enhancements to the main page (first step) |
| 15:15 |
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huginn |
Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=8720&action=edit image/png, Screenshot showing updated interface, Bug-7781-staff-client-home-page.png |
| 15:15 |
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oleonard |
Thanks for the revised patch asaurat1 |
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jcamins |
matts_away: around? |
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wizzyrea |
bbiab peeps |
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asaurat1 |
oleonard: you're welcome :) |
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oleonard |
Uh oh, what's going on here: "Bareword "C4::Templates::_current_language" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/XSLT.pm line 175." |
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clrh |
bye |
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oleonard |
Bye clrh |
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reiveune |
bye |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: denesting? |
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wizzyrea |
where did you see that |
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oleonard |
/cgi-bin/koha/virtualshelves/shelves.pl |
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oleonard |
git bisect blames Bug 7821 and commit f91bd36399b1ab46649482f80e0ff1b438a8d9f6 |
| 15:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference multi-language support |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: I think I see why |
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wizzyrea |
hm, I think best to just report this on that bug |
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wizzyrea |
or make a new one |
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* oleonard |
added a comment on the bug |
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oleonard |
Man, accidentally trashing my testing VM has really ruined my week |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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jcamins |
oleonard: but think of all the bugs you found that you wouldn't have otherwise? |
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jcamins |
*! |
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* oleonard |
grumbles |
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* jcamins |
recalls the need for etherpad.koha-community.org. |
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wizzyrea |
:/ etherpad didn't work so well |
| 16:29 |
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jcamins |
And clrh just left for the day so I won't get access to the Google Doc paul_p mentioned until Monday. :( |
| 16:29 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: oh, well, we need *something*. |
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jcamins |
paul_p: oh, are you still there? |
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paul_p |
jcamins i'm here ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
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jcamins |
Could you give me access to the Google Doc? Pretty please with sugar on top? :) |
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paul_p |
isn't this doc freely ? /me check |
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* jcamins |
couldn't access it. |
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paul_p |
jcamins yikes... I made (small) mistake = everyone can READ it, but now, I can't edit it anymore |
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* slef |
looks at chanserv |
| 16:32 |
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paul_p |
jcamins => try again, should work |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
| 16:32 |
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jcamins |
paul_p++ |
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jcamins |
paul_p: I object to Data::SearchEngine::Zebra not using Data::SearchEngine::Results. |
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jcamins |
I already told Juan. ;) |
| 16:33 |
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jcamins |
He agreed with my objection. |
| 16:34 |
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jcamins |
If Data::SearchEngine::Zebra extends Data::SearchEngine::Results, Koha can happily handle Data::SearchEngine::* the exact same way. |
| 16:34 |
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jcamins |
This is a good thing. :) |
| 16:37 |
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gmcharlt |
paul_p: following up from yesterday, I think you had questions about 7818? |
| 16:37 |
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paul_p |
gmcharlt i just sent a long mail to koha-devel, that includes 7818 |
| 16:37 |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: on that subject, did I report to you the issue with XML indexing? |
| 16:38 |
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paul_p |
gmcharlt see "Solr / zebra / search in Koha 3.10 => starting a workgroup" |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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gmcharlt |
paul_p: ok ,cool |
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paul_p |
almost 7PM here. Time to leave ! bye #koha, see you on monday ! |
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oleonard |
Bon weekend paul_p |
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SJeffery |
Why would foreign language characters not display properly (boxes) in the catalog (both the front and back ends), yet those same characters display perfectly in worldcat (IE8)? |
| 16:49 |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: incorrect encoding on import. |
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jcamins |
Did you pull them in using Z39.50, or the batch import tool? |
| 16:49 |
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SJeffery |
Z39. OCLC is set to MARC21/USMARC and UTF-8 |
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wizzyrea |
the 4th question? |
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jcamins |
My guess is that they're not *really* providing you with UTF-8. |
| 16:50 |
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jcamins |
Wait. |
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wizzyrea |
the fourth question |
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wahanui |
well, the fourth question is "Are we there yet?" |
| 16:50 |
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wizzyrea |
ha |
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wizzyrea |
no. |
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jcamins |
Hold on. |
| 16:50 |
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wizzyrea |
what version are you on? |
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jcamins |
If you change the encoding on the catalog, does it display properly? |
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jcamins |
I mean, change the encoding on the web browser when looking at the catalog. |
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wizzyrea |
also, is it correct in the database? |
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SJeffery |
3.05.00.002 |
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jcamins |
o.O |
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jcamins |
I could've sworn you were on 3.6. |
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wizzyrea |
if you select * from biblio where biblionumber = a messed up record's biblionumber |
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SJeffery |
What the...hold on |
| 16:51 |
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SJeffery |
I should be on 3.6 |
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wizzyrea |
there was a bug fixed recently for encoding problems in the OPAC when xslt was off and the catalog was indexed with -x |
| 16:52 |
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jcamins |
Also, IE is a bear. |
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wizzyrea |
data was ok in the db, but displayed improperly. |
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wizzyrea |
you know it will never display right if the data is wrong in the DB though. |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
which is why I always check that. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: right, but SJeffery doesn't have database access easily. |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
sure he does |
| 16:53 |
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jcamins |
At least, that's my recollection. |
| 16:53 |
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wizzyrea |
custom reports |
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francharb |
\0/ |
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jcamins |
... you know, I never thought of that. |
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jcamins |
Brilliant! |
| 16:54 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea++ |
| 16:54 |
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wizzyrea |
at least for looking, it works just fine :) |
| 16:54 |
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francharb |
i'm trying to figure out how the accountlines table works |
| 16:54 |
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francharb |
but i'm not sure of what I understood so far |
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wizzyrea |
the first question |
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wahanui |
the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: follow wizzyrea's suggestion. |
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SJeffery |
ok, just tried changing the encoding in the browser, that does not fix it |
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oleonard |
francharb: Can you be more specific? |
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francharb |
what's the difference between accountlines.amount and accountlines.amoutoutstanding? Is amountoutstanding the amount left to pay? |
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francharb |
0/ |
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francharb |
oleonard, |
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wahanui |
somebody said oleonard, was there a reason that all if the content in the opac isn't surrounded by the yui-main div? |
| 16:56 |
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francharb |
how are you doing? |
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jcamins |
lol |
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* wizzyrea |
hates to do this |
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wizzyrea |
forget oleonard |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard |
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jcamins |
francharb: you are correct in your understanding. |
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wizzyrea |
as if we could ever forget him |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: it was oleonard*,* |
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jcamins |
oleonard, |
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wahanui |
i heard oleonard, was there a reason that all if the content in the opac isn't surrounded by the yui-main div? |
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wizzyrea |
forget oleonard, |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard, |
| 16:57 |
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* oleonard |
vanishes |
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wizzyrea |
nooooooooooooooo |
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jcamins |
oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. |
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jcamins |
oleonard? |
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oleonard |
..and just when I was figuring everything out too |
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wahanui |
oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard is Koha's master UI designer |
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francharb |
ok jcamins |
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wahanui |
well, jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine. |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard is also Koha's master UI designer |
| 16:58 |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard? |
| 16:58 |
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wahanui |
oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 16:58 |
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wizzyrea |
there we go. |
| 16:59 |
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francharb |
actually, it's related to this script : |
| 16:59 |
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francharb |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6858 |
| 16:59 |
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huginn |
Bug 6858: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing |
| 16:59 |
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francharb |
i've got a situation where MaxFin is set up at 10 |
| 17:00 |
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francharb |
my patron has a 20 euros fines on his account |
| 17:00 |
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francharb |
so there are accountlines.amount = 20 and accountlines.amountoutstanding=20 |
| 17:01 |
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jcamins |
SJeffery: my bet is that OCLC is actually providing you with MARC-8 encoded data. |
| 17:01 |
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francharb |
if I use the staticfines script which should give a 10 euro fine |
| 17:01 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea's query will tell you that, though. |
| 17:01 |
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francharb |
since maxFine is set up at 10 |
| 17:01 |
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francharb |
and my patron already has 20 euros fin |
| 17:01 |
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francharb |
accountlines.amountoutstanding is not updated, it's still accountlines.amountoutstanding=20 |
| 17:02 |
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francharb |
to me it's ok |
| 17:02 |
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francharb |
but accountlines.amount is uptdated |
| 17:02 |
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francharb |
and i get accountlines.amount=10 |
| 17:02 |
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francharb |
and i don"t understand why |
| 17:03 |
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francharb |
i guess it 's a bug |
| 17:03 |
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jcamins |
francharb: I think it adjusts the fine to be equal to the maximum fine allowed, which happens to be less than the current fine. |
| 17:03 |
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jcamins |
francharb: I'm not sure what it should do in that situation! |
| 17:04 |
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francharb |
don't you think, accountlines.amount and accountlines.amountoutstanding should have the some behaviour? |
| 17:04 |
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jcamins |
francharb: yes, I would think so. |
| 17:04 |
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jcamins |
But I'm not sure if they should stay at 20 or go down to 10. |
| 17:04 |
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francharb |
because at the end, my patron has a 10 euros fine and 20 euro to pay... |
| 17:05 |
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jcamins |
Certainly the fact that the numbers are different is a bug. |
| 17:05 |
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francharb |
if the maxfine is set up at 10, but my patron, for any reason has a 20$ fine (lost item...) |
| 17:05 |
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francharb |
it should stay at 20 |
| 17:05 |
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francharb |
i think |
| 17:05 |
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jcamins |
That makes sense to me. |
| 17:06 |
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francharb |
i agree, amount and amountoutstanding should be the same in this case |
| 17:07 |
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francharb |
i didn"t test the script on the master branch but on a specific branch for one of our client! i will retest it on the master branch! |
| 17:07 |
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francharb |
thanks jcamins! |
| 17:34 |
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jcamins |
@quote search attr |
| 17:34 |
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huginn |
jcamins: No matching quotes were found. |
| 17:36 |
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francharb |
see ya all |
| 17:36 |
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francharb |
have a good week end |
| 17:38 |
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jcamins |
Fun fact... it would appear I was involved in a large percentage of the conversations involving "attr" in the Zebra sense. |
| 17:39 |
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jcamins |
Not all of them, but a surprising number. |
| 17:49 |
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rangi |
slef: about? |
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| 18:04 |
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rangi |
47 failures!! |
| 18:04 |
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jcamins |
On jenkins? |
| 18:04 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
How did that happen? |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
It just went stable. |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
jenkins? |
| 18:05 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that jenkins is far easier to move |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
Jenkins site? |
| 18:05 |
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rangi |
Bareword "C4::Templates::_current_language" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Koha_master/workspace/C4/XSLT.pm line 175. |
| 18:05 |
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jcamins |
Ah. Yeah, that was just patched. |
| 18:06 |
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rangi |
yeah but the tests cant have been run before being pushed |
| 18:06 |
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rangi |
or they would all have failed |
| 18:06 |
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rangi |
all 47 of them |
| 18:06 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 18:06 |
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rangi |
sheesh |
| 18:07 |
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jcamins |
I'm confused why the use C4::Items (etc.) test fails. |
| 18:07 |
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jcamins |
What possible reason could there be for including C4::XSLT in C4::Items? |
| 18:07 |
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rangi |
7821 |
| 18:07 |
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jcamins |
bug 7821 |
| 18:07 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Passed QA , XSLT systempreference multi-language support |
| 18:07 |
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jcamins |
Ah, yeah, that's the patch. |
| 18:08 |
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rangi |
thats what broke it |
| 18:08 |
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wizzyrea |
oy |
| 18:08 |
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jcamins |
There's a fix attached now. |
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rangi |
yep, but why have unit tests if we dont use them? |
| 18:09 |
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cait |
hi #koha |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
cait! I had a question for you. |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
I've forgotten what it was. |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
Oh! |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
773s. |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
What fields would you like displayed on search results? |
| 18:09 |
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jcamins |
*subfields |
| 18:09 |
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* wizzyrea |
runs them before signoff with a git alias :P |
| 18:10 |
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* jcamins |
too. |
| 18:10 |
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wizzyrea |
i suspect we may be the exceptions to the rule :/ |
| 18:11 |
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* rangi |
has a git hook on commit |
| 18:11 |
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rangi |
so when i do git commit --amend |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins |
If I'm voted in as RMaint, I'll add a git hook on push. |
| 18:11 |
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wizzyrea |
it runs em |
| 18:11 |
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cait |
jcamins: hm, def the title and the pages |
| 18:11 |
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rangi |
to sign off, it runs all the tests .. wont let me sign off if they fail |
| 18:11 |
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rangi |
sure it takes some time, but have a coffee |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins |
cait: so far I've decided $a, $t, and $g are necessary. |
| 18:11 |
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rangi |
stretch |
| 18:11 |
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rangi |
something |
| 18:11 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins |
Eat a sandwich. |
| 18:11 |
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cait |
jcamins: that makes sense to me :) |
| 18:12 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. |
| 18:12 |
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jcamins |
I think he only programs when hungry. |
| 18:12 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 18:12 |
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libsysguy |
heh |
| 18:12 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. I think he only programs when hungry. |
| 18:12 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #195 added. |
| 18:13 |
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libsysguy |
or maybe I just REALLY like sandwiches |
| 18:13 |
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jcamins |
Jonathan Sprout sang a song about that. |
| 18:13 |
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wizzyrea |
liking sandwiches is cool too :P |
| 18:14 |
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jcamins |
I think it was Jonathan Sprout. Maybe it was Peter Alsop. |
| 18:14 |
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jcamins |
Peter Alsop. |
| 18:17 |
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libsysguy |
wait…who is looking at my patches :p |
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* libsysguy |
gets scared |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
we like to watch. |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
libsysguy? |
| 18:17 |
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wahanui |
well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 18:17 |
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* wizzyrea |
nods. |
| 18:17 |
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libsysguy |
hehe |
| 18:29 |
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slef |
rangi: no :) |
| 18:30 |
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rangi |
slef: i think i submitted my paper twice |
| 18:30 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 18:30 |
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rangi |
but if you confirm you got at least one of them |
| 18:30 |
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rangi |
ill start emailing lists |
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slef |
rangi: I got two |
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slef |
rangi: I was doubting my mailserver! |
| 18:33 |
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* wizzyrea |
is glad slef is receiving papers :) |
| 18:33 |
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slef |
rangi: small error in the form I'll just go fix |
| 18:33 |
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cait |
yay it works :) |
| 18:34 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 18:34 |
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rangi |
cool, ping me when you are happy with the form, and ill do the koha list(s) and then code4lib |
| 18:34 |
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slef |
done |
| 18:34 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 18:35 |
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cait |
rangi++ |
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slef |
*** Ping time to rangi is 00:00.02 |
| 18:35 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 18:41 |
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cait |
slef++ |
| 18:42 |
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rangi |
email sent |
| 18:42 |
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rangi |
if it reads ok, ill do the same to code4lib |
| 18:45 |
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* jcamins |
would submit a talk on analytics, but he won't be able to make it to Edinburgh. :( |
| 18:45 |
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jcamins |
I could write one then make cait read it, if she's not planning on talking about analytics. |
| 18:47 |
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cait |
:( |
| 18:47 |
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jcamins |
It'd be almost like having me there. :) |
| 18:47 |
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* cait |
wnats you |
| 18:47 |
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cait |
not words she can't pronounce right |
| 18:47 |
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jcamins |
And I'd prepare a slide deck with pictures of Myshkin. |
| 18:49 |
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bag |
bug 7818 |
| 18:49 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 18:51 |
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cait |
jcamins: myshkin... tempting |
| 18:51 |
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cait |
jcamins: I was thinking to talk about translations maybe |
| 18:51 |
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jcamins |
Good, so you can give my talk on analytics without it overlapping. :) |
| 18:52 |
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cait |
lol |
| 18:52 |
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jcamins |
'S good. :) |
| 18:53 |
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jcamins |
slef: would you like me to submit a talk-by-proxy proposal? I know there's interest in analytics from a fair number of people. |
| 18:55 |
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rangi |
ok, that email read ok? should i hit some other mailing lists with it? |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
And if cait isn't doing one on analytics, I don't think there are many others who would. |
| 18:56 |
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jcamins |
Looked good to me. |
| 18:56 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
jcamins: wouldn't it make more sense to ask a native speaker? |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
jcamins: yes, but we may pause it until we get the internet access sorted, unless you mean someone presenting your slides? |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
cait: okay. |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
slef: I meant someone presenting my slides. |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
rangi: a grue got me |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
slef: internet! |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
we could make him appear by webcam |
| 19:00 |
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jcamins |
slef: cait doesn't want to do it, so I'll shanghai someone else to do it. |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
or skype |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
and I can click to make the slides change :P |
| 19:00 |
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rangi |
ok code4lib done too |
| 19:00 |
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cait |
I am still trying to get used to the idea to submit my own... talking about something complicated like analytics is scary |
| 19:01 |
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slef |
cait: if we can navigate the nasty university internet access policies or persuade the co-operative mobile & broadband to sponsor us ;) |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
oh |
| 19:01 |
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jcamins |
slef: given that remote presentations never work, it seems much safer to just send a script to someone. |
| 19:01 |
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cait |
slef: so not sorted out if we will have internet/wifi? |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
jcamins: you could heckle by phone? |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
cait: not 100% :( |
| 19:02 |
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jcamins |
slef: lol |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
cait: or at least, not as far as I know. |
| 19:02 |
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cait |
ouch :( |
| 19:02 |
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slef |
cait: email the volunteers list and ask mle, he's handlng the venue and it'd make a nice change from me hassling him ;) |
| 19:02 |
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jcamins |
slef: I guess if there were a landline I could use Skype or the like to dial in. |
| 19:03 |
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slef |
or let's hassle mle here by all saying his nick until he notices it :) |
| 19:03 |
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cait |
mle mle mle |
| 19:03 |
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jcamins |
However, my suggestion was that some intrepid soul -- like mle! -- should read the presentation for me, and I could answer questions via IRC, since someone will no doubt have a data plan. ;) |
| 19:03 |
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slef |
jcamins: we'll have mobiles and mine has a headphone jack so... |
| 19:04 |
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jcamins |
Heh. I think mle should read my talk. :) |
| 19:05 |
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jcamins |
Did I do a good job with highlighting mle? |
| 19:13 |
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bag |
http://www.usatoday.com/news/n[…]ackpot/53872762/1 |
| 19:13 |
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bag |
that's a bit mental |
| 19:31 |
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chris_n |
bad math that^^ |
| 19:32 |
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bag |
I like the little chart on the top - 12,800 for the average household to earn that money ;) |
| 19:32 |
|
* chris_n |
will be on the look out for falling TVs |
| 19:32 |
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bag |
whoops insert years into that statement |
| 19:33 |
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jcamins |
How did they come up with the probability of getting killed by a falling TV? |
| 19:34 |
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bag |
it must happen a lot ;) |
| 19:34 |
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chris_n |
there's probably a stat for it somewhere |
| 19:34 |
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chris_n |
like the odds of being hit by space junk |
| 19:34 |
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bag |
darwin rules (of whatever that is) |
| 19:34 |
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bag |
oh wait darwin awards |
| 19:35 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: but what population do they sample to figure that out? |
| 19:35 |
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chris_n |
heh... probably a greater chance of suddenly evolving wings than of winning... |
| 19:35 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: maybe heavy population centers like big cities with high-rise apartments? |
| 19:36 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: there are 309 million people in the US. If 9 out of 176 million people are killed by falling TVs every year, that'd be sixteen people a year in the US. |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins |
If the entire world, with a population of 6.79 million, that would mean that a whopping 347 people died from a TV falling on them last year. |
| 19:38 |
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wizzyrea |
falling out of a balcony, or plasma tv's falling off of walls |
| 19:38 |
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wizzyrea |
billion* |
| 19:38 |
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chris_n |
right, so your odds of winning the lotto are much less |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins |
Billion, yes. |
| 19:38 |
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* wizzyrea |
could buy people getting killed by tv's falling off of walls |
| 19:38 |
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chris_n |
and probably equally ridiculous :) |
| 19:38 |
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wizzyrea |
especially with some of the monstrous tv's available nowadays |
| 19:39 |
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jcamins |
But my point is, it makes a huge difference whether the statistic is just based on Americans, or based on the entire world. |
| 19:39 |
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jcamins |
It could be that 300 people had TVs dropped on them in New Zealand, in which case an American is unlikely to be killed by a TV unless s/he visits NZ. |
| 19:40 |
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* jcamins |
sits back in his rocking chair and shouts at the youngsters to get off his lawn. |
| 19:40 |
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chris_n |
without bothering with the math I'd say the odds of winning are less regardless of the population base you use for falling TVs |
| 19:40 |
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chris_n |
lol |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: oh, I agree. |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
I just think it's an idiotic statistic to use. |
| 19:40 |
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chris_n |
well, that's the whole point I'd guess |
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* chris_n |
likes playing the soda machine... the odds are better ;-) |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
And you get a five cent deposit back, too. |
| 19:43 |
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* wizzyrea |
imagines chris_n putting his quarters in... pushing the button... waiting impatiently to see if his prize will come out... and squeeing maniacally when his soda comes out. |
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* wizzyrea |
is going to treat soda machines like slot machines from now on. |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
Oh, it's Friday. :) |
| 19:44 |
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chris_n |
lol |
| 19:44 |
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wizzyrea |
that is, if I drank soda. |
| 19:44 |
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chris_n |
coffee then? |
| 19:44 |
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* jcamins |
wants tea. |
| 19:44 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm, tempting. we do have a keurig here, it's kind of the same thing. |
| 19:44 |
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aarkerio |
yea!! youtube.com/watch?v=mGgMZpGYiy8 |
| 19:44 |
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wizzyrea |
push the button... will coffee come out? It does! Yay! |
| 19:44 |
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jcamins |
I started reading the New Book of Tea on the subway on the way in this morning. |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
There aren't any tea machines. |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
(to both) |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
no. one has to go slow with tea. |
| 19:45 |
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wizzyrea |
slowly* |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
Maybe I should invent a tea machine. Choose which tea ceremony you prefer (Japanese, Persian, English, Turkish, etc.), and the device performs it perfectly every time. :) |
| 19:47 |
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aarkerio |
hi! there is a report where can I see the items currently borrowed? |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
sql reports library? |
| 19:47 |
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wahanui |
i guess sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
^^ probably there's one there. |
| 19:49 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: we call those "robots" |
| 19:49 |
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aarkerio |
thanks! |
| 19:50 |
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chris_n |
quite an interesting talk on lotto theory: http://www.goodbonusguide.com/[…]tery-tickets.html |
| 19:52 |
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oleonard |
If Makefile.PL reports missing prerequisites, they should be added to ubuntu.packages, right? |
| 19:52 |
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chris_n |
right |
| 19:52 |
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* chris_n |
looks into getting a keurig now that wizzyrea has mentioned it |
| 19:53 |
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* jcamins |
is pondering electric samovars. |
| 19:53 |
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chris_n |
we recently got a device for making smores in the u-wave |
| 19:53 |
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* oleonard |
thinks us devs could do better at updating those requirements |
| 19:53 |
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rangi |
oleonard: and debian/control |
| 19:53 |
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wizzyrea |
u-wave. have I mentioned how awesome you people are. |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins |
chris_n: a plate? |
| 19:54 |
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rangi |
for the packages |
| 19:54 |
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wizzyrea |
keurig machines are cool, except that they are terribly wasteful. And not very cost effective. |
| 19:54 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: no, not that simple :) |
| 19:54 |
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* wizzyrea |
just makes smores with mochi and nutella and calls it good. |
| 19:55 |
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chris_n |
jcamins: something similar to this: http://www.amazon.com/Progress[…]res/dp/B001447LEE |
| 19:55 |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 19:55 |
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chris_n |
but nothing beats a flame-kist marshmallow... |
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bag |
I guess they are saying if no one wins tonight - then the jackpot will be a billion |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins |
bag: a shame that you'd have to spend $103million for the odds to even out. |
| 20:10 |
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jcamins |
(only bet when the jackpot is above $176mil, and buy one $1 ticket every time that happens until you've spent $103mil) |
| 20:10 |
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bag |
wanna loan me 103 million? |
| 20:10 |
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jcamins |
bag: sorry, not today. |
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jcamins |
Also, it'd be a really long wait. |
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* jcamins |
considers. Perhaps you don't just bet $1 each round. Perhaps you bet according to how high above $176mil the jackpot is. |
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jcamins |
I bet there are people who actually understand this stuff. |
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bag |
it's more fun to waste 4 quaters and dream ;) |
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oleonard |
Okay, weekend time for me |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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wizzyrea |
bye oleonard |
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jcamins |
Bye. |
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jcamins |
He's definitely slowing down. |
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jcamins |
Two people said goodbye. |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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* jcamins |
decides to call it a day as well. |
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jcamins |
Bye. |
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