Time Nick Message 20:24 jcamins Bye. 20:24 * jcamins decides to call it a day as well. 20:19 wizzyrea hehe 20:13 jcamins Two people said goodbye. 20:13 jcamins He's definitely slowing down. 20:13 jcamins Bye. 20:13 wizzyrea bye oleonard 20:13 oleonard Bye #koha 20:13 oleonard Okay, weekend time for me 20:12 bag it's more fun to waste 4 quaters and dream ;) 20:12 jcamins I bet there are people who actually understand this stuff. 20:11 * jcamins considers. Perhaps you don't just bet $1 each round. Perhaps you bet according to how high above $176mil the jackpot is. 20:11 jcamins Also, it'd be a really long wait. 20:10 jcamins bag: sorry, not today. 20:10 bag wanna loan me 103 million? 20:10 jcamins (only bet when the jackpot is above $176mil, and buy one $1 ticket every time that happens until you've spent $103mil) 20:09 jcamins bag: a shame that you'd have to spend $103million for the odds to even out. 20:06 bag I guess they are saying if no one wins tonight - then the jackpot will be a billion 19:55 chris_n but nothing beats a flame-kist marshmallow... 19:55 jcamins Hehe. 19:55 chris_n jcamins: something similar to this: http://www.amazon.com/Progressive-International-GMMC-68-Microwavable-SMores/dp/B001447LEE 19:54 * wizzyrea just makes smores with mochi and nutella and calls it good. 19:54 chris_n jcamins: no, not that simple :) 19:54 wizzyrea keurig machines are cool, except that they are terribly wasteful. And not very cost effective. 19:54 rangi for the packages 19:54 jcamins chris_n: a plate? 19:53 wizzyrea u-wave. have I mentioned how awesome you people are. 19:53 rangi oleonard: and debian/control 19:53 * oleonard thinks us devs could do better at updating those requirements 19:53 chris_n we recently got a device for making smores in the u-wave 19:53 * jcamins is pondering electric samovars. 19:52 * chris_n looks into getting a keurig now that wizzyrea has mentioned it 19:52 chris_n right 19:52 oleonard If Makefile.PL reports missing prerequisites, they should be added to ubuntu.packages, right? 19:50 chris_n quite an interesting talk on lotto theory: http://www.goodbonusguide.com/general-articles/what-happens-if-you-buy-every-combination-of-lottery-tickets.html 19:49 aarkerio thanks! 19:49 wizzyrea jcamins: we call those "robots" 19:47 jcamins ^^ probably there's one there. 19:47 wahanui i guess sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 19:47 jcamins sql reports library? 19:47 aarkerio hi! there is a report where can I see the items currently borrowed? 19:46 jcamins Maybe I should invent a tea machine. Choose which tea ceremony you prefer (Japanese, Persian, English, Turkish, etc.), and the device performs it perfectly every time. :) 19:45 wizzyrea slowly* 19:45 wizzyrea no. one has to go slow with tea. 19:45 wizzyrea (to both) 19:45 jcamins There aren't any tea machines. 19:45 wizzyrea hehe 19:44 jcamins I started reading the New Book of Tea on the subway on the way in this morning. 19:44 wizzyrea push the button... will coffee come out? It does! Yay! 19:44 aarkerio yea!! youtube.com/watch?v=mGgMZpGYiy8 19:44 wizzyrea hmm, tempting. we do have a keurig here, it's kind of the same thing. 19:44 * jcamins wants tea. 19:44 chris_n coffee then? 19:44 wizzyrea that is, if I drank soda. 19:44 chris_n lol 19:43 jcamins Oh, it's Friday. :) 19:43 * wizzyrea is going to treat soda machines like slot machines from now on. 19:43 * wizzyrea imagines chris_n putting his quarters in... pushing the button... waiting impatiently to see if his prize will come out... and squeeing maniacally when his soda comes out. 19:43 jcamins And you get a five cent deposit back, too. 19:41 * chris_n likes playing the soda machine... the odds are better ;-) 19:40 chris_n well, that's the whole point I'd guess 19:40 jcamins I just think it's an idiotic statistic to use. 19:40 jcamins chris_n: oh, I agree. 19:40 chris_n lol 19:40 chris_n without bothering with the math I'd say the odds of winning are less regardless of the population base you use for falling TVs 19:40 * jcamins sits back in his rocking chair and shouts at the youngsters to get off his lawn. 19:39 jcamins It could be that 300 people had TVs dropped on them in New Zealand, in which case an American is unlikely to be killed by a TV unless s/he visits NZ. 19:39 jcamins But my point is, it makes a huge difference whether the statistic is just based on Americans, or based on the entire world. 19:38 wizzyrea especially with some of the monstrous tv's available nowadays 19:38 chris_n and probably equally ridiculous :) 19:38 * wizzyrea could buy people getting killed by tv's falling off of walls 19:38 jcamins Billion, yes. 19:38 chris_n right, so your odds of winning the lotto are much less 19:38 wizzyrea billion* 19:38 wizzyrea falling out of a balcony, or plasma tv's falling off of walls 19:38 jcamins If the entire world, with a population of 6.79 million, that would mean that a whopping 347 people died from a TV falling on them last year. 19:36 jcamins chris_n: there are 309 million people in the US. If 9 out of 176 million people are killed by falling TVs every year, that'd be sixteen people a year in the US. 19:35 chris_n jcamins: maybe heavy population centers like big cities with high-rise apartments? 19:35 chris_n heh... probably a greater chance of suddenly evolving wings than of winning... 19:35 jcamins chris_n: but what population do they sample to figure that out? 19:34 bag oh wait darwin awards 19:34 bag darwin rules (of whatever that is) 19:34 chris_n like the odds of being hit by space junk 19:34 chris_n there's probably a stat for it somewhere 19:34 bag it must happen a lot ;) 19:33 jcamins How did they come up with the probability of getting killed by a falling TV? 19:32 bag whoops insert years into that statement 19:32 * chris_n will be on the look out for falling TVs 19:32 bag I like the little chart on the top - 12,800 for the average household to earn that money ;) 19:31 chris_n bad math that^^ 19:13 bag that's a bit mental 19:13 bag http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-29/megamillions-jackpot/53872762/1 19:05 jcamins Did I do a good job with highlighting mle? 19:04 jcamins Heh. I think mle should read my talk. :) 19:03 slef jcamins: we'll have mobiles and mine has a headphone jack so... 19:03 jcamins However, my suggestion was that some intrepid soul -- like mle! -- should read the presentation for me, and I could answer questions via IRC, since someone will no doubt have a data plan. ;) 19:03 cait mle mle mle 19:03 slef or let's hassle mle here by all saying his nick until he notices it :) 19:02 jcamins slef: I guess if there were a landline I could use Skype or the like to dial in. 19:02 slef cait: email the volunteers list and ask mle, he's handlng the venue and it'd make a nice change from me hassling him ;) 19:02 cait ouch :( 19:02 slef cait: or at least, not as far as I know. 19:02 jcamins slef: lol 19:02 slef cait: not 100% :( 19:02 slef jcamins: you could heckle by phone? 19:01 cait slef: so not sorted out if we will have internet/wifi? 19:01 jcamins slef: given that remote presentations never work, it seems much safer to just send a script to someone. 19:01 cait oh 19:01 slef cait: if we can navigate the nasty university internet access policies or persuade the co-operative mobile & broadband to sponsor us ;) 19:00 cait I am still trying to get used to the idea to submit my own... talking about something complicated like analytics is scary 19:00 rangi ok code4lib done too 19:00 cait and I can click to make the slides change :P 19:00 cait or skype 19:00 jcamins slef: cait doesn't want to do it, so I'll shanghai someone else to do it. 18:59 cait we could make him appear by webcam 18:59 cait slef: internet! 18:59 slef rangi: a grue got me 18:59 jcamins slef: I meant someone presenting my slides. 18:59 jcamins cait: okay. 18:59 slef jcamins: yes, but we may pause it until we get the internet access sorted, unless you mean someone presenting your slides? 18:59 cait jcamins: wouldn't it make more sense to ask a native speaker? 18:56 rangi cool 18:56 jcamins Looked good to me. 18:56 jcamins And if cait isn't doing one on analytics, I don't think there are many others who would. 18:55 rangi ok, that email read ok? should i hit some other mailing lists with it? 18:53 jcamins slef: would you like me to submit a talk-by-proxy proposal? I know there's interest in analytics from a fair number of people. 18:52 jcamins 'S good. :) 18:52 cait lol 18:51 jcamins Good, so you can give my talk on analytics without it overlapping. :) 18:51 cait jcamins: I was thinking to talk about translations maybe 18:51 cait jcamins: myshkin... tempting 18:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records 18:49 bag bug 7818 18:47 jcamins And I'd prepare a slide deck with pictures of Myshkin. 18:47 cait not words she can't pronounce right 18:47 * cait wnats you 18:47 jcamins It'd be almost like having me there. :) 18:47 cait :( 18:45 jcamins I could write one then make cait read it, if she's not planning on talking about analytics. 18:45 * jcamins would submit a talk on analytics, but he won't be able to make it to Edinburgh. :( 18:42 rangi if it reads ok, ill do the same to code4lib 18:42 rangi email sent 18:41 cait slef++ 18:35 rangi heh 18:35 slef *** Ping time to rangi is 00:00.02 18:35 cait rangi++ 18:34 rangi cool 18:34 slef done 18:34 rangi cool, ping me when you are happy with the form, and ill do the koha list(s) and then code4lib 18:34 wizzyrea ^.^ 18:33 cait yay it works :) 18:33 slef rangi: small error in the form I'll just go fix 18:33 * wizzyrea is glad slef is receiving papers :) 18:33 slef rangi: I was doubting my mailserver! 18:33 slef rangi: I got two 18:30 rangi ill start emailing lists 18:30 rangi but if you confirm you got at least one of them 18:30 rangi :) 18:30 rangi slef: i think i submitted my paper twice 18:29 slef rangi: no :) 18:17 libsysguy hehe 18:17 * wizzyrea nods. 18:17 wahanui well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck 18:17 wizzyrea libsysguy? 18:17 wizzyrea we like to watch. 18:17 * libsysguy gets scared 18:17 libsysguy wait…who is looking at my patches :p 18:14 jcamins Peter Alsop. 18:14 jcamins I think it was Jonathan Sprout. Maybe it was Peter Alsop. 18:13 wizzyrea liking sandwiches is cool too :P 18:13 jcamins Jonathan Sprout sang a song about that. 18:13 libsysguy or maybe I just REALLY like sandwiches 18:12 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #195 added. 18:12 wizzyrea @quote add jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. I think he only programs when hungry. 18:12 libsysguy heh 18:12 wizzyrea lol 18:12 jcamins I think he only programs when hungry. 18:12 jcamins libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. 18:11 cait jcamins: that makes sense to me :) 18:11 jcamins Eat a sandwich. 18:11 rangi :) 18:11 rangi something 18:11 rangi stretch 18:11 jcamins cait: so far I've decided $a, $t, and $g are necessary. 18:11 rangi sure it takes some time, but have a coffee 18:11 rangi to sign off, it runs all the tests .. wont let me sign off if they fail 18:11 cait jcamins: hm, def the title and the pages 18:11 wizzyrea it runs em 18:11 jcamins If I'm voted in as RMaint, I'll add a git hook on push. 18:11 rangi so when i do git commit --amend 18:11 * rangi has a git hook on commit 18:10 wizzyrea i suspect we may be the exceptions to the rule :/ 18:10 * jcamins too. 18:09 * wizzyrea runs them before signoff with a git alias :P 18:09 jcamins *subfields 18:09 jcamins What fields would you like displayed on search results? 18:09 jcamins 773s. 18:09 jcamins Oh! 18:09 jcamins I've forgotten what it was. 18:09 jcamins cait! I had a question for you. 18:09 cait hi #koha 18:08 rangi yep, but why have unit tests if we dont use them? 18:08 jcamins There's a fix attached now. 18:08 wizzyrea oy 18:08 rangi thats what broke it 18:07 jcamins Ah, yeah, that's the patch. 18:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Passed QA , XSLT systempreference multi-language support 18:07 jcamins bug 7821 18:07 rangi 7821 18:07 jcamins What possible reason could there be for including C4::XSLT in C4::Items? 18:07 jcamins I'm confused why the use C4::Items (etc.) test fails. 18:06 rangi sheesh 18:06 jcamins Right. 18:06 rangi all 47 of them 18:06 rangi or they would all have failed 18:06 rangi yeah but the tests cant have been run before being pushed 18:05 jcamins Ah. Yeah, that was just patched. 18:05 rangi Bareword "C4::Templates::_current_language" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Koha_master/workspace/C4/XSLT.pm line 175. 18:05 jcamins Jenkins site? 18:05 wahanui it has been said that jenkins is far easier to move 18:05 jcamins jenkins? 18:05 jcamins It just went stable. 18:05 jcamins How did that happen? 18:04 rangi yep 18:04 jcamins On jenkins? 18:04 rangi 47 failures!! 17:49 rangi slef: about? 17:39 jcamins Not all of them, but a surprising number. 17:38 jcamins Fun fact... it would appear I was involved in a large percentage of the conversations involving "attr" in the Zebra sense. 17:36 francharb have a good week end 17:36 francharb see ya all 17:34 huginn jcamins: No matching quotes were found. 17:34 jcamins @quote search attr 17:07 francharb thanks jcamins! 17:07 francharb i didn"t test the script on the master branch but on a specific branch for one of our client! i will retest it on the master branch! 17:06 francharb i agree, amount and amountoutstanding should be the same in this case 17:05 jcamins That makes sense to me. 17:05 francharb i think 17:05 francharb it should stay at 20 17:05 francharb if the maxfine is set up at 10, but my patron, for any reason has a 20$ fine (lost item...) 17:05 jcamins Certainly the fact that the numbers are different is a bug. 17:04 francharb because at the end, my patron has a 10 euros fine and 20 euro to pay... 17:04 jcamins But I'm not sure if they should stay at 20 or go down to 10. 17:04 jcamins francharb: yes, I would think so. 17:04 francharb don't you think, accountlines.amount and accountlines.amountoutstanding should have the some behaviour? 17:03 jcamins francharb: I'm not sure what it should do in that situation! 17:03 jcamins francharb: I think it adjusts the fine to be equal to the maximum fine allowed, which happens to be less than the current fine. 17:03 francharb i guess it 's a bug 17:02 francharb and i don"t understand why 17:02 francharb and i get accountlines.amount=10 17:02 francharb but accountlines.amount is uptdated 17:02 francharb to me it's ok 17:01 francharb accountlines.amountoutstanding is not updated, it's still accountlines.amountoutstanding=20 17:01 francharb and my patron already has 20 euros fin 17:01 francharb since maxFine is set up at 10 17:01 jcamins wizzyrea's query will tell you that, though. 17:01 francharb if I use the staticfines script which should give a 10 euro fine 17:01 jcamins SJeffery: my bet is that OCLC is actually providing you with MARC-8 encoded data. 17:00 francharb so there are accountlines.amount = 20 and accountlines.amountoutstanding=20 17:00 francharb my patron has a 20 euros fines on his account 16:59 francharb i've got a situation where MaxFin is set up at 10 16:59 huginn 04Bug 6858: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing 16:59 francharb http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6858 16:59 francharb actually, it's related to this script : 16:58 wizzyrea there we go. 16:58 wahanui oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 16:58 wizzyrea oleonard? 16:58 wahanui okay, wizzyrea. 16:58 wizzyrea oleonard is also Koha's master UI designer 16:58 wahanui well, jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine. 16:58 francharb ok jcamins 16:58 wizzyrea oleonard is Koha's master UI designer 16:58 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. 16:58 oleonard ..and just when I was figuring everything out too 16:58 jcamins oleonard? 16:58 jcamins oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. 16:58 wizzyrea nooooooooooooooo 16:57 * oleonard vanishes 16:57 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard, 16:57 wizzyrea forget oleonard, 16:57 wahanui i heard oleonard, was there a reason that all if the content in the opac isn't surrounded by the yui-main div? 16:57 jcamins oleonard, 16:57 jcamins wizzyrea: it was oleonard*,* 16:57 wizzyrea as if we could ever forget him 16:57 jcamins francharb: you are correct in your understanding. 16:57 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard 16:57 wizzyrea forget oleonard 16:57 * wizzyrea hates to do this 16:57 jcamins lol 16:56 francharb how are you doing? 16:56 wahanui somebody said oleonard, was there a reason that all if the content in the opac isn't surrounded by the yui-main div? 16:56 francharb oleonard, 16:56 francharb 0/ 16:56 francharb what's the difference between accountlines.amount and accountlines.amoutoutstanding? Is amountoutstanding the amount left to pay? 16:56 oleonard francharb: Can you be more specific? 16:55 SJeffery ok, just tried changing the encoding in the browser, that does not fix it 16:55 jcamins SJeffery: follow wizzyrea's suggestion. 16:55 wahanui the first question is "What are you trying to do?" 16:55 wizzyrea the first question 16:54 francharb but i'm not sure of what I understood so far 16:54 francharb i'm trying to figure out how the accountlines table works 16:54 wizzyrea at least for looking, it works just fine :) 16:54 jcamins wizzyrea++ 16:54 jcamins Brilliant! 16:53 jcamins ... you know, I never thought of that. 16:53 francharb \0/ 16:53 wizzyrea custom reports 16:53 jcamins At least, that's my recollection. 16:53 wizzyrea sure he does 16:53 jcamins wizzyrea: right, but SJeffery doesn't have database access easily. 16:53 wizzyrea which is why I always check that. 16:53 wizzyrea you know it will never display right if the data is wrong in the DB though. 16:53 wizzyrea data was ok in the db, but displayed improperly. 16:52 jcamins Also, IE is a bear. 16:52 wizzyrea there was a bug fixed recently for encoding problems in the OPAC when xslt was off and the catalog was indexed with -x 16:51 SJeffery I should be on 3.6 16:51 SJeffery What the...hold on 16:51 wizzyrea if you select * from biblio where biblionumber = a messed up record's biblionumber 16:51 jcamins I could've sworn you were on 3.6. 16:51 jcamins o.O 16:51 SJeffery 3.05.00.002 16:50 wizzyrea also, is it correct in the database? 16:50 jcamins I mean, change the encoding on the web browser when looking at the catalog. 16:50 jcamins If you change the encoding on the catalog, does it display properly? 16:50 wizzyrea what version are you on? 16:50 jcamins Hold on. 16:50 wizzyrea no. 16:50 wizzyrea ha 16:50 wahanui well, the fourth question is "Are we there yet?" 16:50 wizzyrea the fourth question 16:50 jcamins Wait. 16:50 jcamins My guess is that they're not *really* providing you with UTF-8. 16:50 wizzyrea the 4th question? 16:49 SJeffery Z39. OCLC is set to MARC21/USMARC and UTF-8 16:49 jcamins Did you pull them in using Z39.50, or the batch import tool? 16:49 jcamins SJeffery: incorrect encoding on import. 16:49 SJeffery Why would foreign language characters not display properly (boxes) in the catalog (both the front and back ends), yet those same characters display perfectly in worldcat (IE8)? 16:45 oleonard Bon weekend paul_p 16:40 paul_p almost 7PM here. Time to leave ! bye #koha, see you on monday ! 16:39 gmcharlt paul_p: ok ,cool 16:38 gaetan_B bye ! 16:38 paul_p gmcharlt see "Solr / zebra / search in Koha 3.10 => starting a workgroup" 16:37 jcamins gmcharlt: on that subject, did I report to you the issue with XML indexing? 16:37 paul_p gmcharlt i just sent a long mail to koha-devel, that includes 7818 16:37 gmcharlt paul_p: following up from yesterday, I think you had questions about 7818? 16:34 jcamins This is a good thing. :) 16:34 jcamins If Data::SearchEngine::Zebra extends Data::SearchEngine::Results, Koha can happily handle Data::SearchEngine::* the exact same way. 16:33 jcamins He agreed with my objection. 16:33 jcamins I already told Juan. ;) 16:33 jcamins paul_p: I object to Data::SearchEngine::Zebra not using Data::SearchEngine::Results. 16:32 jcamins paul_p++ 16:32 jcamins Yay! 16:32 paul_p jcamins => try again, should work 16:32 * slef looks at chanserv 16:32 paul_p jcamins yikes... I made (small) mistake = everyone can READ it, but now, I can't edit it anymore 16:30 * jcamins couldn't access it. 16:30 paul_p isn't this doc freely ? /me check 16:30 jcamins Could you give me access to the Google Doc? Pretty please with sugar on top? :) 16:30 wizzyrea yea 16:30 paul_p jcamins i'm here ;-) 16:29 jcamins paul_p: oh, are you still there? 16:29 jcamins wizzyrea: oh, well, we need *something*. 16:29 jcamins And clrh just left for the day so I won't get access to the Google Doc paul_p mentioned until Monday. :( 16:29 wizzyrea :/ etherpad didn't work so well 16:29 * jcamins recalls the need for etherpad.koha-community.org. 16:12 * oleonard grumbles 16:10 jcamins *! 16:10 jcamins oleonard: but think of all the bugs you found that you wouldn't have otherwise? 16:06 wizzyrea :( 16:06 oleonard Man, accidentally trashing my testing VM has really ruined my week 16:05 * oleonard added a comment on the bug 16:05 wizzyrea or make a new one 16:04 wizzyrea hm, I think best to just report this on that bug 15:59 wizzyrea oleonard: I think I see why 15:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference multi-language support 15:56 oleonard git bisect blames Bug 7821 and commit f91bd36399b1ab46649482f80e0ff1b438a8d9f6 15:54 oleonard /cgi-bin/koha/virtualshelves/shelves.pl 15:54 wizzyrea where did you see that 15:54 wizzyrea oleonard: denesting? 15:53 reiveune bye 15:48 oleonard Bye clrh 15:48 clrh bye 15:47 oleonard Uh oh, what's going on here: "Bareword "C4::Templates::_current_language" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/XSLT.pm line 175." 15:17 asaurat1 oleonard: you're welcome :) 15:16 wizzyrea bbiab peeps 15:15 jcamins matts_away: around? 15:15 oleonard Thanks for the revised patch asaurat1 15:15 huginn 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=8720&action=edit image/png, Screenshot showing updated interface, Bug-7781-staff-client-home-page.png 15:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7781 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Enhancements to the main page (first step) 15:15 oleonard For those who haven't tested Bug 7781, see attachment 8720 15:09 oleonard Thanks for the photos paul_p ! 15:07 Joubu goodbye! 14:56 * slef not yet 14:56 * jcamins too 14:56 * wizzyrea just moved too 14:56 wizzyrea you're telling me :) 14:56 jcamins So in other words, everyone in this conversation other than me actually has a printer. :P 14:56 slef wizzyrea: the fun of relocation 14:55 wizzyrea yikes! 14:55 slef wizzyrea: except mine is on the other side of England to me. 14:55 wizzyrea that would like, require furniture. 14:55 slef wizzyrea: well, technically, mine's the same. 14:55 jcamins It committed suicide by explosion two days before we were due to move. 14:55 * wizzyrea has a printer, it's not currently hooked up though 14:55 jcamins slef: yeah, we don't have a printer, either. 14:55 wizzyrea d'oh! 14:54 slef I have no printer any more. Have to send them out. 14:53 slef now I must do more Real Work TM while I wait for the invitation letters to arrive 14:53 wizzyrea sure :) 14:53 slef wizzyrea: thanks for the help 14:52 slef so I give up and just use it now :( 14:52 slef usually when I try that it either ignores me or just opens a widget anyway 14:52 slef oh that wasn't obvious :( 14:52 slef click and drag to pick a number 14:52 wizzyrea you can type them in 14:51 slef needs much better motor control than I have to select particular times 14:51 slef wow that's a bad UI 14:50 wizzyrea possibly 14:49 slef wizzyrea: I'll do that. But maybe this is why there are few things in the events category? 14:49 wizzyrea it should auto add the event category 14:49 slef wizzyrea: no. 14:49 wizzyrea then add your dates 14:49 wizzyrea scroll down until you see the + 14:49 wizzyrea did you add an event? 14:48 slef wizzyrea: the Events category checkbox is greyed out! 14:43 kf bbl 14:43 kf heh ok 14:42 slef adding deadline before kf does :) 14:21 wahanui logs is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 14:21 slef wahanui: logs 14:19 slef http://meetings.koha-community.org/ 14:19 wahanui IRC meetings are how most things are decided, so definitely put it on the agenda for discussion 14:19 slef wahanui: IRC meetings? 14:19 wahanui i don't know, slef 14:19 slef wahanui: meetings? 14:18 slef is gbenga on here? 14:16 slef and properly note what came from whom 14:16 jcamins Good morning, #koha. 14:14 slef but what really would help is having to show ID to be paid cash 14:14 slef there's an inexplicable push to stop cash payments for scrap to stop it 14:13 slef it's all due to what people will pay for scrap No Questions Asked 14:13 oleonard Crazy. 14:13 slef took them out for weeks 14:13 slef electric 14:13 slef oleonard: near BR's place a couple of years ago, they tried to cut a live electic feed 14:12 slef oleonard: oh that keeps happening here 14:12 oleonard Electric and phone went out for some people here yesterday because someone cut the cables to sell for scrap 14:11 slef kf: ouch 14:10 kf electricity will go out here in 50 min (some maintenance thing) 14:10 kf I will do a little later 14:09 slef kf: could you add it? I'm currently trying to get invitation letters into the air mail before Last Post 14:08 kf slef: I think most people postpone things like that ( I do) so having a deadline hopefully will help :) 14:08 kf slef: 20th sounds fine for me 14:06 * magnuse wanders off 14:04 * wizzyrea waves 13:49 wizzyrea Oak - that's probably bad sectors on your hard disk 13:42 slef updated http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/visa-info/ to ask for hotel info and link to sources of it 13:36 Oak great. thanks guys. 13:36 hdl it is all about the sorting engine 13:34 Oak what about this smartd line from syslog? 13:33 oleonard Sorry Oak, the error doesn't mean anything to me 13:33 Oak oleonard, anybody, is this what I think is the cause of my error: Mar 30 18:22:50 aridkoha smartd[1716]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors 13:31 slef hdl: I don't know that we have. 13:30 hdl gmcharlt: slef have you ever used FID_SORT_BIN in SIP ? 13:27 Oak any comment oleonard ? 13:24 slef we're not asking for full info 13:24 slef it's an easy form 13:24 slef but implore people to submit sooner 13:24 slef kf: what would you say? 20 April? 13:23 kf we could always extend if there are not enough talks 13:23 kf slef: having a deadline helps 13:23 kf slef: I think it would make people submit their talks a bit faster 13:22 slef kf: I think we're close enough first come first served-if-passed-by-reviewers would work, don't you? 13:18 Oak http://pastebin.com/Rp2LFNL1 13:18 Oak here oleonard :http://pastebin.com/Rp2LFNL1 13:17 Oak uh oh it local link... let me paste the error on pastebin 13:17 oleonard Oak: Should we be able to follow that link? It times out for me 13:16 Oak only this: http://10.16.18.71/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=24 is giving that error. other entries, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, ... etc are working okay. what can be the reason?? 13:12 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 13:12 kf @later tell slef should we set an end date for paper submissions? so that we can start to put a program together? 13:07 libsysguy crap 13:06 huginn libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 13:06 libsysguy @quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you 13:06 nengard LOL 13:06 libsysguy dang it…I am registered :'( 13:06 huginn libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 13:06 libsysguy @quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you 12:56 libsysguy jw how to register with nickserv 12:56 tcohen hi #koha 12:55 oleonard libsysguy: Not sure what you're trying to do, but IRC commands require a "/" before them 12:51 libsysguy info libsysguy 12:46 libsysguy identify libsysguy 12:46 libsysguy its sad because that was a good one 12:44 libsysguy hmm 12:44 nengard looks like you're not registered 12:43 huginn libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 12:43 libsysguy @quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you 12:43 nengard druthb knows how though 12:43 nengard libsysguy i never learned how to add quotes ... 12:43 Oak getting this when search for "Marketing" on OPAC, then on page 2, click on this book with link: http://10.16.18.71/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=24 12:42 Oak For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([no address given]), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. 12:42 Oak Can't use string ("00800nam a22002537a 450000100050") as an ARRAY ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1493. 12:42 Oak Software error: 12:42 Oak getting this: 12:42 libsysguy dang it I know im using that wrong 12:41 huginn libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 12:41 libsysguy @quote add I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you 12:40 nengard then I beat the knowledge in to you :) 12:40 nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn 12:39 nengard LOL 12:39 libsysguy nengard is very scary :p 12:39 libsysguy I've seen you in training action 12:38 nengard i'm not scary :) 12:38 nengard ?? 12:37 libsysguy well after I saw where nengard spotted it i got scared :p 12:37 oleonard If you're working on it, yes 12:37 libsysguy oleonard do I need to take it back? 12:37 jcamins_away Hehe. Wishful thinking? :) 12:36 libsysguy LOL 12:36 oleonard Oh, and you're the one that assigned it to me libsysguy :P 12:35 libsysguy kf++ i didn't know this either 12:35 libsysguy and ahhh ok 12:35 libsysguy I was about to rebase my work on it last night but didn't want to start something you were working on 12:35 oleonard Oh, I'm just the default assignee for OPAC bugs 12:35 kf libsysguy: there is a history link on every bug (I just discovered that recently) that's cool for checking if someone changed something 12:34 libsysguy it just said it was assigned to you and for some reason I thought that had changed from a few days ago 12:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs 12:34 oleonard I'm not working on bug 5079, why do you ask? 12:34 libsysguy whats up oleonard 12:33 libsysguy yeah 12:33 oleonard libsysguy around? 12:33 Oak hmm 12:31 wahanui what's up, oleonard 12:31 oleonard Hi 12:31 kf hi oleonard :) 12:31 kf you could use css I think...but they might get blurry 12:29 Oak can I increase the size of book cover images in details page... 12:17 wahanui :) 12:17 kf wahanui botsnack antidote 12:17 kf quite torturing poor wahanui 12:16 wahanui errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! 12:16 slef wahanui: die! 12:16 kf lol 12:16 wahanui slef: i'm not following you... 12:16 slef wahanui: I LOVE YOU 12:16 kf not sure, perhaps I increased the script size in the browser settings somewhere 12:16 wahanui Windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server. 12:16 slef Windows? 12:16 kf oh 12:16 slef yeah, it's nowhere near the right-edge of the box for me... about 4em away 12:14 kf my text is big? 12:14 kf if you click on the edit symbol it opens a popup - but yes, I think so 12:14 slef I'll do that if people start cocking it up 12:14 slef ah is that what goes after the last |? 12:14 slef kf: your text is big 12:14 kf on hover 12:14 kf I think you can also define more hints about the fields 12:14 slef kf: not sure if enough 12:13 kf cool 12:13 kf if we could make it fit in the box would be a bit nicer 12:13 slef kf: I shortened it a little 12:13 kf so got a little confused 12:13 kf slef: I wondered if the text continued 12:11 slef biab 12:11 slef fixed 12:09 slef let me fix that 12:09 slef actually it should be GPLv2+ like Koha 12:09 slef but I wanted to put in a helpful default 12:09 slef I could just drop the "- or change this" 12:09 slef also the form thingy, losing half a letter doesn't worry me. Should it? 12:08 slef if you beat me to it 12:08 slef it's in Appearance: Themes in the wp-admin 12:08 kf ah ok 12:08 slef the theme 12:08 kf I will tell wizzyrea later 12:08 slef Also we could look for a new release of GP2 12:08 slef I'm in 3. I'll check in 8 later but I'm not in a place I can upgrade to 9. 12:08 kf I have been using documentation and support before without noticing it 12:07 kf I think it used to work 12:07 kf firefox 9.0.1 12:07 slef which browser? 12:07 slef theme or browser bug :( 12:07 kf weird 12:07 kf oh I do 12:06 slef kf: wow, freaky on the top nav - do you get something similar in Support? 12:03 kf [off] http://opac.bsz-bw.de/koha_temp/cfp.png 12:02 slef kf: bbi60, will try to fix then, plus post some announcements 12:02 slef http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/call-papers/ is posted, please get submitting if it works for you! 12:00 kf yep sec 12:00 slef kf: looks fine for me. Can you screenshot? 11:59 slef looking 11:59 kf the subnavigation for kohacon12 11:59 kf and the longer license text does not work for me - becaue I can't read all of it 11:59 wahanui well, which one is it 11:59 slef which one? 11:59 kf the navigation bar looks a bit wrong 11:59 slef kf: what problems? 11:58 kf slef: problems with navigation on kc.org? 11:57 slef mib_pwxs2g: sorry but I'm going to be away for an hour now. Maybe someone else can help you, if you can say what that chown command was. 11:55 huginn slef: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 51 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> hmm. MaxReserves? 11:55 slef @seen wizzyrea 11:54 slef wizzyrea: I think you have an email for me. Sorry for not checking the settings enough! 11:54 wahanui logs is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 11:54 slef wahanui: logs? 11:53 slef mib_pwxs2g: were you told that here? 11:52 mib_pwxs2g this happened after running chown -R mysql and some path command 11:49 slef mib_pwxs2g: it will not solve, but it will give more information. 11:48 mib_pwxs2g ok let me see if this will solve. 11:47 slef it is almost always a problem with how one set up mysql, rather than koha 11:47 slef using the details from koha-conf.xml 11:47 slef see if you can login with: mysql -u USERNAME-GIVEN-IN-KOHA_CONF -p DATABASE-GIVEN-IN-THERE 11:46 slef it means koha cannot login to mysql 11:46 mib_pwxs2g sorry, how can i solve it? 11:45 mib_pwxs2g hallo 11:45 mib_pwxs2g Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. 11:45 mib_pwxs2g am getting this error on mysql installation.:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can isolve it?? 11:45 mib_pwxs2g am getting this error on mysql installation.:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can isolve it?? 11:45 slef mib_pwxs2g: please don't repeat yourself. 11:44 slef mib_pwxs2g: fine. Ignore me. 11:44 mib_pwxs2g am getting this error when i try to access my koha on the browser: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can i solve it? 11:44 mib_pwxs2g am getting this error when i try to access my koha on the browser: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can i solve it? 11:41 slef and see if you can log in 11:41 slef try running: mysql -u USERNAME-GIVEN-IN-THERE -p DATABASE-GIVEN-IN-THERE 11:41 slef <database>... 11:41 slef <db_scheme>mysql</db_scheme> 11:41 slef <config> 11:41 slef can you see it mib_pwxs2g ? 11:41 slef it's right near the end 11:41 slef it just ignores 3306 11:40 slef oh no, he's right 11:40 slef let me open my koha-conf.xml 11:40 slef not 3306 anyway 11:40 slef juan_sieira is wrong 11:34 mib_pwxs2g i cant see these values. its just a bunch of zebra and other stuff 11:21 juan_sieira should be localhost and 3306 11:20 juan_sieira hostname and port 11:19 mib_pwxs2g what should i check on the koha-conf.xml 11:18 mib_pwxs2g ok let me check. 11:16 juan_sieira this file it's in your install folder / etc / koha-conf.xml 11:16 juan_sieira you can check the file koha-conf.xml, at the bottom, host user ... parameter of your mysql server 11:13 mib_pwxs2g but it is still giving the initial error on the browser. 11:12 mib_pwxs2g it gives the following as the results: start: job is already running: mysql 11:11 juan_sieira with sudo, it you're not root 11:11 juan_sieira ok, exec: service mysql start 11:10 mib_pwxs2g well, it gave this as the result: rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, eg service mysql start. 11:07 juan_sieira did you start mysql server? 11:05 slef if it asks you to, pause and let people suggest other things to check! 11:05 slef hopefully not! 11:05 mib_pwxs2g then does this mean that i will have to create another koha database? 11:04 juan_sieira no 11:04 mib_pwxs2g will that not affect the koha files? 11:03 juan_sieira did you install mysql server??, if not do: sudo apt-get install mysql-server 11:02 juan_sieira just exec this command: /etc/init.d/mysql start 11:02 mib_pwxs2g how can i make it run? 11:02 juan_sieira your mysql server is stopped 11:01 mib_pwxs2g hallo guys, just installed koha, and it was working well. on rebooting the computer then this error came up:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. what could be the problem? my koha is running on ubuntu 11.04 10:49 Oak kia ora my hearties 10:28 * paul_p head to lunch 10:27 slef baa 10:26 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7387] Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7387> 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference multi-language support 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , svc API should allow modification of items 10:16 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7821 follow-up: escaping {} in regexp 10:16 jenkins_koha * dpavlin: Bug 7821 - {langcode} will be replaced with current interface language 10:16 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 4032 follow-up: removing ` in syspref 10:16 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 4032 follow-up: DBRev number 10:16 jenkins_koha * stephane.delaune: Bug 4032 XSLT systempreference takes a path to file rather than YesNo 10:16 jenkins_koha * mjr: Bug 7729 : svc/bib: support appending ?items=1 to the URL to fetch or modify items 10:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #690: UNSTABLE in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/690/ 09:39 vfernandes i'm going now for a meeting 09:39 vfernandes thanks anyway kf 09:38 kf I have not seen that before 09:38 kf sorry, I am a bit out of ideas 09:38 vfernandes yes in the editor works fine 09:38 vfernandes *seems to appear 09:37 kf and it appears correctly when you open it in the editor in administration? 09:37 vfernandes the problem seems to append in three tables: tags, branches and itemtypes 09:37 kf hm 09:37 vfernandes no 09:37 kf using memcache? 09:37 vfernandes yes, for the same description but reentered from the keyboard 09:36 kf reentering it from your keyboard? 09:36 kf for the field 101? 09:36 kf you changed both, opac and lib description? 09:36 kf hmm 09:35 vfernandes kf: thanks :) but changing didn't solve 09:34 kf vfernandes: nice layout! 09:34 vfernandes i will change the field 101 09:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #690 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 09:33 kf and see if that fixes it 09:33 kf vfernandes: try changing the description for one of those broken fields in administration > bibliographic marc frameworks 09:33 kf I think they are broken in the database - I have seen that before when I was not careful with my sql for the bibliographic frameworks 09:32 kf vfernandes: hm, those are pulled from the database 09:32 vfernandes database is in UTF8, apache is also in UFT8 as the locale 09:32 vfernandes the accent character are all mess up... but in the database are correct 09:31 vfernandes this page is a example of what is happening 09:31 vfernandes http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumber=92089 09:31 vfernandes in the last weeks i've struggling with some encoding problems that only in some Koha pages: opac-MARCDetail, intranet MARCDetail, addbooks, additems and when using XSLT 09:29 vfernandes hi guys 09:22 magnuse feels like spring here to, but it's gonna snow tomorrow... 09:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7821 follow-up: escaping {} in regexp <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9207da8f2693563b8059ba2d5af3e3f3e19ea22> / Bug 7821 - {langcode} will be replaced with current interface language <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f91bd36399b1ab46649482f80e0ff1b438a8d9f6> / Bug 4032 follow-up: removing ` in syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=co 09:11 * kmkale likes http://www.dell.com/in/p/xps-13-l321x/pd 09:09 juan_sieira hdl: this samsung it's a good choice, so It has a hybrid disk, and I don't know if I could used with linux. I know about people that cannot change the operating system in it ... 09:07 juan_sieira hdl: I'm hunting for the perfect notebook 09:06 hdl lucky you :D 09:06 juan_sieira like the samsung np530u4b 09:05 juan_sieira its a hd with a little ssd inside, 500gb normal + 16gb ssd 09:05 hdl hybrid hd ? solid state and other ? 09:03 juan_sieira does anybody got a laptop with a hybrid hd here? 08:58 kmkale it will go up to 40°C with humidity crossing 90 :( 08:57 huginn kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0°C (2:10 PM IST on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 08:57 kmkale @weather mumbai 08:57 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.4°C (10:54 AM CEST on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 08:57 kf @wunder Konstanz 08:57 kf spring time here too - not that warm, but nice 08:56 kmkale :) 08:56 paul_p spring arrived in MArseille (24°C today)... ice cream time coming ;-) 08:51 kmkale namaste paul_p 08:50 kmkale :-D 08:50 kmkale :_D 08:50 Brooke that would have required us to stop oogling fabric long enough for you to do so. XD 08:50 kmkale I remember telling Jo about the best being right opposit your hotel 08:49 kmkale nah I should have taken you ppl to some really nice icecream shops 08:49 * Brooke navigates cities by eateries. 08:49 Brooke I did have a mango vanilla pop at some point, but that was just prepackaged stuff. 08:48 Brooke morning paul 08:48 Brooke my bad, cause I didn't get off the beaten track nearly as often as I ought to have 08:48 paul_p good morning world 08:47 Brooke I had some kulfi, but it was kinda so so 08:46 kmkale ooh Brooke did you have icecreams when you were here? 08:45 magnuse juan_sieira: cool, thanks 08:44 juan_sieira Brooke: ..... I know... 08:44 juan_sieira magnuse: I submit a new bug to correct what you said to me. The only file I didn't change is the normarc file. This is in your hands 08:44 Brooke juan, you've magical powers! 08:43 hdl juan_sieira: paul has a headache. And should be there in a few hours. 08:43 juan_sieira hdl: is there paul? 08:42 Brooke just sayin 08:42 Brooke http://www.s-luca.co.uk/ 08:42 kf yum! 08:41 magnuse yum! 08:40 asaurat <3 looks like ice cream to me 08:40 magnuse juan_sieira++ 08:39 juan_sieira imagination has no frontiers 08:39 Brooke magnuse is right :D 08:39 juan_sieira :) 08:38 magnuse rotate it 90 degrees anti-clockwise... 08:38 juan_sieira it's a kiss?? 08:37 magnuse it's a heart! :-) 08:37 kmkale what does <3 mean? 08:36 Brooke how goes the flying frenchman? 08:35 hdl Namaste kmkale and Brooke 08:35 kf hi kmkale :) 08:35 juan_sieira s/path/patch/ 08:35 Brooke I <3 facets 08:35 Brooke oooh 08:35 kmkale Namaste kf hdl 08:35 juan_sieira I'm pushing a path now 08:35 juan_sieira but I have to tell you about something in facets, in a moment 08:34 kf :) 08:34 juan_sieira this morning I'll return to Zebra works¡ 08:34 hdl hi all 08:34 juan_sieira hi hdl 08:34 hdl hi juan_sieira 08:34 magnuse namaskar kmkale 08:34 kmkale namaste magnuse slef Brooke 08:31 slef magnuse: thanks too! 08:31 slef kf: thank you! biab! 08:30 Brooke Namaskar 08:30 kmkale Namaste #koha 08:30 * magnuse dunno 08:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons 08:29 magnuse bug 6697 08:29 kf using othernames for the patron organisaton 08:29 kf hm that was only display 08:28 kf slef: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/bug-6303-Display-Organisation-and-Parent-Organisation-names-when-viewing-a-borrower-of-type-organistn-td4999474.html 08:26 Brooke it was long enough ago that stuff prolly has changed 08:26 Brooke plus 08:26 Brooke ask it again if all you're finding is vague memories anyway 08:25 Brooke meh 08:25 kf I think it was on the mailing list perhaps 08:25 slef Found 0 matching posts for multilevel organisational patrons in Koha 08:23 kf there was somethin 08:23 Brooke is having summat like the Boys and Girls club being able to vouch for the Vincent de Paul or vice versa 08:23 kf multilevel organisational patrons 08:22 kf you are right 08:22 kf and now... thinking about it 08:22 kf ok :) 08:22 Brooke no I'm thinking that what slef is talking about 08:21 magnuse yay! :-) 08:21 kf slef: I think Brooke is thinking about staff users should be able to have childs 08:19 juan_sieira yes.. I think, but now I'll include it 08:19 magnuse normarc should be there... 08:19 magnuse the options for marcflavour? 08:18 juan_sieira magnuse: when I changed updatedatabase, in sysprefs there is only the option between marc21|unimarc, that is because I didn't include normarc into it 08:17 juan_sieira i'll change the other files, and the updatedatabase 08:16 juan_sieira thanks magnus 08:16 juan_sieira ok 08:16 magnuse i'll take the blame if anyone has a problem with that :-) 08:16 magnuse juan_sieira: i'm using the sql files exported from the Web UI, so the maxlength column gets included there, and you don't have to worry about the normarc files 08:15 slef Brooke: can you try self-hypnosis to extract any more possible search terms? ;-) 08:15 magnuse that might be a good idea 08:15 magnuse juan_sieira: 08:15 juan_sieira magnuse: instead of changing all of the lines on all of them¡ 08:15 slef Brooke: I'm getting mainly hits on obnoxious footer disclaimers when I try to search the list for "Organization" and "guarantee" 08:14 juan_sieira magnuse: i'm changing thouse files now, but I think I'll add a "update" on the bottom of those sql files 08:13 magnuse hola juan_sieira 08:13 Brooke it might also have been in the Patron Reports sidebar, or I can totally be imagining it... 08:13 juan_sieira hi magnuse 08:12 slef hi juan_sieira 08:12 * Brooke has a deja vu kind of feeling about that 08:12 slef Brooke: oooh I've no memory, will search 08:12 juan_sieira good morning #koha 08:12 slef it looks like it might be a UI-only change 08:12 Brooke did that get asked on list a while back? 08:12 slef Does anyone else use||want organisations to guarantee other organisations? 08:11 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6698 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Detail page for organisations should show only valid fields 08:11 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2699 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Organization for Reports 08:11 slef @query Organization 08:11 slef kf: thanks for the email 08:11 wahanui hello, Brooke 08:11 Brooke hi 08:11 kf hi slef 08:11 slef hi all ;) 08:11 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5422 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Separate state field for patron's adresses 08:11 slef @query guarantor 07:22 kf hi Brooke 07:22 Brooke hey there 07:22 macphisto hi everybody! 07:21 kf hi macphisto 07:20 kf hi gaetan_B :) 07:19 kf god morgen magnuse :) 07:19 gaetan_B hello! 07:09 kf back 07:05 francharb ;) 07:05 francharb sure! 07:05 Brooke as long as you were bugtesting then it's fine 07:05 francharb it was fun the same way 07:05 Brooke oh okay 07:05 francharb it was more like testing drinks than _drinking drinking! ;) 07:05 * Brooke pauses to consider how the last statement manages to stack up against the life decisions that result at looking at a record for Verus Sacerdos. 07:04 Joubu hello 07:03 francharb ;) 07:03 Brooke drinking without me is a sin, you know :P 07:03 francharb hello #koha 07:03 francharb ;) 07:03 francharb francharb, hugs Brooke 07:03 * Brooke hugs francharb 07:03 alex_a papa !! 06:57 magnuse hiya sophie_m 06:57 Brooke hey sophie 06:57 sophie_m hi #koha 06:53 mbalmer re 06:51 magnuse yay! 06:51 Brooke kiiiaaora ;) 06:50 magnuse kia ora #koha! 06:42 matts hi #koha 06:40 mtj yep. i'm off too... ciao #koha 06:38 cait and bye all - bbiab 06:38 cait hi reiveune 06:38 reiveune hello 06:38 mtj "you don't want the '()' after the name of the sub - it should be 'sub foo {...'. With the '()' you are saying that foo accepts no arguments, which is not what you want in this case " 06:36 mtj with no () 06:36 mtj 'sub foo { 06:36 mtj oops, that should really be... 06:35 cait but the second looks better to me 06:34 cait I am still very much at the beginning with perl 06:33 mtj my ($x, $y, $z) = @_; 06:32 mtj sub foo() { 06:32 mtj rather than just... 06:32 mtj my $z = shift; 06:32 mtj my $y = shift; 06:32 mtj my $x = shift; 06:31 mtj sub foo() { 06:31 mtj this next one is my pet HATE.... 06:30 cait :) 06:29 mtj sub border_style ($$$) { 06:29 mtj to this type... 06:29 mtj my($width, $style, $colour) = @_; 06:28 mtj sub border_style { 06:28 mtj its nice to see grant also prefers this type of syntax... 06:23 mtj "I recently had cause to resurrect my sermon against inappropriate use of Perl prototypes at a Perl Mongers meeting. I thought it might be of interest to some here too." 06:23 mtj ha, the last link is from grant.m at catalyst,nz ;) 06:22 mtj http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=406231 06:22 mtj http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=861966 06:22 mtj http://stackoverflow.com/questions/297034/why-are-perl-5s-function-prototypes-bad 06:21 mtj theres a bit of info about the net, on the topic 06:13 cait I am still reading modern perl :) 06:12 cait this is beyond my programming skills still 06:12 mtj see, no prototypes used.. :) 06:12 mtj sub output_html_with_http_headers { 06:11 mtj this is good... 06:11 mtj sub output_html_with_http_headers ($$$;$) { 06:11 mtj this is bad.... 06:10 mtj oooh, i got it ;) 06:10 mtj yep, page 194 :p 06:08 cait but I don't have that :( 06:08 cait I think perhaps it's in the book 06:08 cait hm 06:08 mtj but it also give a compilation-error :/ 06:08 mtj changing the ($$$$;$) to () , stops perlcritic bitching (thats good) 06:07 mtj so, if thats bad m'kay.... whats the fix for it? 06:06 mtj sub output_html_with_http_headers ($$$;$) { 06:06 mtj i guess a sub-prototype is like this... 06:06 alex_a bonjour 06:06 mtj Subroutine prototypes used at line 314, column 1. See page 194 of PBP. (Severity: 5) 06:06 mtj does anyone know that this is all aboot? 06:05 mtj random perlcritic Q.... 05:37 cait hi bag 05:37 bag yo cait 05:37 bag heya Amit_Gupta 05:33 cait hi #koha 04:58 Amit_Gupta heya kmkale 04:43 * kmkale rangi seems to be having "Happy ... Days" Good for him :) 02:34 Oak crap 02:34 Oak later my hearies 02:31 Oak hello my hearties 02:30 Oak kia ora #koha 01:16 rangi no worries 01:16 mtj ok, thanks for the advice :) 01:15 mtj oui, très élégant 01:14 rangi subs to wrap around those in the updater might be the way to go 01:14 rangi etc 01:14 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~timb/DBI-1.618/DBI.pm#foreign_key_info 01:13 rangi something like that 01:13 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~timb/DBI-1.618/DBI.pm#table_info 01:13 rangi you could do it database independently 01:12 rangi and column_info 01:12 mtj check_table(), check_col(), check_syspref() etc... 01:12 rangi using dbh->table_info 01:12 mtj would be a satisfiying little project :) 01:12 rangi *nod* 01:11 mtj yea, perhaps even some general update subs() to do those boring tasks 01:11 rangi would be good 01:11 rangi checking first, before trying to add a column etc 01:11 huginn libsysguy: The operation succeeded. 01:11 libsysguy @later tell oleonard are you working on rebasing bug 5079? 01:10 rangi *nod* 01:10 mtj and its still scary trying to guess what update warnings are harmless or fatal, etc (for the average person) 01:09 mtj those red warning! type errors during upgrade, still freak most people out 01:09 rangi yeah that would be the best fix 01:08 mtj ... and display a message either way 01:08 mtj the fix would be for update code to check if foreign-keys, tables , column, sysprefs , etc... actually exist - before attempting to create them? 01:06 mtj yeah... you are right 01:06 rangi the bug would be running debug mode in production :) 01:05 mtj rangi: ok :) 01:05 rangi its a handy feature for finding actual errors 01:05 rangi hell no 01:05 libsysguy forgot I did that in the excitement of fixing hourly…damn it 01:05 mtj i wonder if i should log it as a bug, and submit a patch sing eval{} , to 'fix' it ? 01:04 rangi since we explcityly tell it to die mtj 01:04 libsysguy ugh yes…rangi++ 01:04 rangi feature 01:04 libsysguy heh 01:04 mtj rangi: do you think the updatedatabase.pl script dying with DEBUG=1 is a feature, or bug ? :) 01:04 rangi hmm you didnt git stash it or something? 01:03 libsysguy rangi im almost embarrassed to ask this, but when I made those changes for hourly circ I did it in the branch that I did the instant checkin work. I was able to generate a patch for the hourly circ to work but when I tried to add my work for instant checkin it says that there are no changes. That work didn't go in the patch that i generated…do you know what I might have done wrong 00:49 mtj rangi++ :) 00:49 libsysguy heh thanks mtj 00:48 mtj libsysguy, thats not old-fashioned... that just smart :) 00:47 rangi http://findingheroes.co.nz/2012/03/30/open-source-ils-much-bigger-than-you-think/ 00:47 libsysguy hmm 00:47 libsysguy fitting i guess since i still refuse to use guis on a server 00:46 mtj for me, the timeout is around 3-5 secs 00:46 rangi heh 00:46 libsysguy libsysguy, the 23 year old, old fashioned guy 00:46 libsysguy yeah I guess thats the way its going to be today 00:46 rangi git-format-patch 00:45 rangi old fashioned way eh 00:45 libsysguy damn 00:45 rangi ahh yeah that looks like some weird timeout thingy 00:45 libsysguy it looks like its all hidden fields 00:44 libsysguy but im not really sure whats above 00:44 libsysguy remaining missing information above. 00:44 libsysguy form submissions, you must re-attach the file in addition to completing the 00:44 libsysguy in the form you just submitted. Because we are unable to retain the file between 00:44 libsysguy We were unable to store the file you uploaded because of incomplete information 00:44 rangi wats the html page say? 00:44 rangi oh hmm 00:43 libsysguy and a status 200 message 00:43 libsysguy i get an html page returned 00:43 rangi hmm 00:43 libsysguy yeah applies work 00:43 libsysguy damn…I don't think i can hit it any faster 00:43 rangi the rest of it works apply etc ? 00:43 rangi :) 00:43 libsysguy ok ill try and hit yes in under a second lol 00:43 libsysguy oh lol 00:42 rangi you have to be speedy 00:42 rangi it has a short timeout 00:42 libsysguy it keeps failing 00:42 libsysguy is there something I have to do with git bz to be able to attach bugs? 00:30 rangi i have no idea what that email is about 00:30 rangi wow 00:17 libsysguy anybody know how to checkout a single file in git from a local branch? 00:13 mtj obligatory friday doggy vs. kitty pics -> http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/blogs/four-legs-good :)