IRC log for #koha, 2012-03-29

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00:09 bag @wunder 93109
00:09 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1°C (5:09 PM PDT on March 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
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00:16 Judit good morning
00:18 Judit i have some overdue items with fines and on my opac, on the 'my summery" tab, in the "Fines" column i have only a "No"
00:19 Judit should i have there the amount of the fine, or even a 'yes' would make more sense
00:19 Judit i havent seen a bug report on this, and i dont know if it is normal or not
00:19 Judit koha 3.6.4
00:25 eythian Wasn't someone (nengard?) asking about that the other day?
00:25 rangi yep
00:27 Judit not only me so
00:27 Judit kinda good
00:28 Judit is it a bug or intentional?
00:28 Judit or a syspref setting
00:31 Judit[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5688
00:31 huginn Bug 5688: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC My Summary tab fines column doesn't display accruing fines
00:31 Judit have it!
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00:46 slef am I being dim or does bug 7613 just never add items to the import?
00:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
00:49 rangi havent tested it enough to know sorry slef
00:50 slef I can't see what other url_params it acts upon. I doubt C4::ImportBatch is reading the parameters directly somehow. I thought import_mode=direct would be enough.
00:50 rangi ill see if srdjan is about to jump on irc
00:51 slef ta
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00:51 rangi there we go :)
00:52 slef beats BTS tennis
00:52 papa eh?
00:52 slef papa: I can't see what other url_params import_bib acts upon. I doubt C4::ImportBatch is reading the parameters directly somehow. I thought import_mode=direct would be enough.
00:52 papa import_mode=direct is just saying process immediately
00:53 papa you can see the whole list in that other daemon script usage
00:53 papa basically all drop-downs from the UI
00:55 slef how are they being passed anywhere outside import_bib?
00:55 slef Is GetWebserviceBatchId doing some magic with them?
00:56 slef no I see, it's passed to AddImportBatch which does it
00:57 papa tes
00:57 papa yes even
00:57 papa they are assigned to the import batch record
00:58 papa I assume that should suffice, I must say that I stopped there
00:58 slef no testing?
00:58 * slef runs
00:59 papa tested up to there, and processed, but did not check the details. I was happy that it appeared on the UI as expected
00:59 papa like I did not change anything in the process afterwards
01:01 slef I'm getting # Items 0 all the time now
01:01 * slef reverts and cleans all the imports and tries again
01:02 slef I'm not convinced it's possible to add items from import_bib now.
01:04 rangi before the patch even?
01:05 slef before the patch, import_bib didn't exist
01:06 rangi ah ok
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01:14 eythian I like how someone made the effort of making the cardnumber a link - on the printed recepits.
01:17 papa slef: so you can do that from UI?
01:17 slef papa: actually, reverting the import_bib import and then importing it again from the UI loads the items.
01:18 slef papa: my current theory is that it's something to do with the matcher
01:19 papa ok, now you need to tell me what knobs did you turn on on the ui
01:19 slef nothing
01:19 slef just clicked "Undo import into catalog"
01:19 slef then "Import this batch into the catalog"
01:19 slef and items appear
01:20 slef Interestingly, the results screen after "Undo import into catalog" claims "Number of items deleted: 1"
01:21 slef so I'm not sure what's going on here
01:21 slef doesn't seem to be the matcher
01:21 papa that may be "Number of items we said we would delete, present or not"
01:21 slef as I set matcher=ISBN this time and that's been recognised
01:22 slef it must be something import_bib does different to the web UI
01:22 papa Then I failed :)
01:22 slef probably some default we don't know
01:22 papa XML that you are using is the one attached to the bug?
01:23 slef oneitem.xml yes
01:23 slef is it buggy? ;)
01:23 slef I've others from clients but they're not FOSS
01:23 papa no idea, I had my own
01:23 slef did that work?
01:23 papa yes
01:24 slef items and all?
01:24 papa and had items
01:24 slef which were imported?
01:24 papa yes, with item_action=always or similar
01:24 slef Let's play spot the difference!  (Actually, I'll add a 942 to mine.)
01:25 slef always, not create_new?
01:25 papa let me check
01:26 slef ah always_add
01:26 slef is what I was using
01:26 papa yes, that one
01:26 slef now trying: curl -b svc.cookie -d '@oneitem.xml' -H 'Content-Type: text/plain' 'http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/s[…]add&matcher=ISBN'
01:27 slef heh the 942 got through but items still stripped off
01:27 rangi do you have a 952 itemtype?
01:28 rangi cos 942 is bib level
01:28 slef <subfield code="y">BK</subfield>
01:28 slef yeah
01:28 rangi hmm
01:28 rangi barcode?
01:28 wahanui rumour has it barcode is in 852p
01:28 slef I know. Mystifying.
01:28 slef yep
01:28 rangi wierd
01:28 slef wahanui: forget barcode
01:28 wahanui slef: I forgot barcode
01:29 slef wahanui: 942?
01:29 wahanui wish i knew, slef
01:29 * rangi has to head out now for parent teacher meeting, good luck
01:29 papa slef: can you please try it without mode=direct, and then process it from the UI
01:29 slef rangi: thanks
01:30 slef papa: will do, but surely that's going to behave like the reverted ones and then import with items OK... or am I looking for something else?
01:30 papa no, just to confirm that
01:31 papa maybe I also did it that way
01:31 slef interesting... it says it is staged, but still # Items is 0
01:31 slef (summary page)
01:32 papa ok, I'm taking your file and trying with it
01:32 slef it imported 1 item correctly, though
01:32 slef can I see your file, for comparison?
01:33 papa sorry, not any more, I changed work environment recently and lost it
01:33 mtj random daily Q... who's twitter account is this ->
01:34 mtj http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]er-td3060105.html
01:34 rangi mine
01:34 papa slef: what I did I exported a biblio from koha and worked with that
01:34 mtj lol, i thought it might have been on of mine - but perhaps not... :/
01:34 slef papa: I'll try that
01:35 mtj nicole asked that Q on ' oct 04, 2009' , so its very old
01:35 rangi[…]n_Social_Networks
01:35 rangi tells ya htere
01:35 slef slef's current theory?
01:35 wahanui slef, your current theory is that it's something to do with the matcher
01:35 * rangi really leaves now
01:35 mtj rangi:  bah, thanks
01:36 slef rangi is not always accurate about when he leaves IRC
01:36 slef wahanui: rangi?
01:36 slef heh
01:36 mtj rangi:  fyi the kohagit urls are glitchy
01:36 slef mtj: with a control character?
01:37 mtj rangi: and ignore my recent password reset requests :)
01:37 mtj slef:  yeah, i tjink
01:37 mtj[…]tm_medium=twitter
01:37 slef mtj: have you considered using your fingers instead of your toes to type on IRC?
01:37 mtj etc...
01:38 slef mtj: I blame
01:39 mtj slef: no, i pjefer toes
01:40 mtj and yeah, i think its too
01:40 slef papa: tried with a record downloaded from svc/bib/11?items=1 (which is another enh bug) and it failed
01:41 slef and I'm falling asleep now so I'll have to return to this in the morning :(
01:41 slef sorry
01:42 slef mtj: ah I know. failing to process URLs containing ;-delimited query strings correctly.
01:43 papa slef: thanks, it will be sorted when you wake up
01:43 slef very few things actively use ;-delimited instead of &-delimited. Stuff like is probably part of the reason why
01:44 slef papa: that would be very very cool.
01:44 slef papa: thanks for your work on making svc more useful. Maybe I'll update the docs with this unfun stuff which someone should have written before ;)
01:46 * mtj waves to papa :)
01:46 * papa waves back
01:47 papa slef: where are the docs?
02:12 eythian I really dislike how the zebra configuration won't log things that are clearly warnings, e.g. using the wrong username/password.
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02:46 mhussey Hello -  I am a first year LIS student, and I am doing a bit of research on koha for a class project. I understand that koha is a free program, but I know that some costs are involved.  Can anyone explain what they might consist of?  I don't need great detail, just a few ideas, because my instructor will ask this question and I haven't been able to find out.
02:47 eythian mhussey: There's no cost for the softwarem but if you have to pay someone to implement it for you, that'll be a cost.
02:48 eythian Also the server to run it on, or hosting fees depending which way you go with that.
02:48 eythian Basically the same costs for a proprietary system, except no license fees.
02:49 eythian and if you are a programmer, you don't have to pay someone for customisation as you can do it yourself.
02:49 mhussey Ah - that is exactly what I am looking for.  I am very new to all of this, so I wasn't even sure what to ask for.  Thank you!
02:50 eythian so it can range from zero cost (except the servers to run it on) if you do it all yourself, or more depending on which you choose to pay for.
02:51 mhussey This is the first class I have taken about code and creating web pages, and although I'm not very god at it yet, I find this fascinating.  Thanks so much!  What you've told me is perfect!
02:51 eythian no problem
02:52 mhussey Have a great evening!
02:53 eythian :)
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02:55 Brooke o/
03:31 Brooke huginn help @fight
03:31 huginn Brooke: Error: There is no command "@fight".
03:31 Brooke wahanui help @fight
03:31 Brooke typical. 2 male bots outperformed by one female bot. ;)
03:32 Judit :D
03:32 eythian you're the violent one here, clearly.
03:32 eythian wahanui: do you want to play a game is <reply>Global thermonuclear war? My favourite!
03:32 wahanui OK, eythian.
03:34 Brooke Zoia arranges cagematches :P
04:10 mtj eythian: some impressive beer on-tap at HZ at the mo :)
04:10 mtj
04:10 eythian mtj: yeah, I'm moving flat tomorrow though, need to finish packing tonight.
04:10 mtj 2 coranados and a green-flash :p
04:11 eythian it's not bad.
04:11 mtj meh, next time then :)
04:12 eythian though, the Caronado wit beer is very very strange.
04:12 bag ummm BEER!!!
04:12 bag sounds good about now
04:12 bag :D
04:12 mtj figures... you've been there, done that... :)
04:12 eythian mtj: it came out on tuesday. That was ages ago.
04:13 mtj pours brendan a glass of Coronado Stoopid Stout (9.4% ABV)
04:14 mtj even reading that, makes me feel slightly wobbly :p
04:14 eythian that one is very good.
04:14 mtj ok, gotta scoot guys
04:14 bag heh
04:14 bag late mason
04:15 mtj hope the move goes smoove-azz, eythian
04:15 eythian cheers, cya
04:26 liw eythian, are you going to offer to present on how the Koha .debs work and the various helpful things they can do for you, at Kohacon?
04:27 eythian liw: probably, possibly. I haven't had time to sit down and think up a talk topic yet. It's one entry on my severely overgrown todo list at the moment.
04:29 liw eythian, I think it might be welcome :) I am going to offer to give a generic Debian packaging tutorial (a repeat of the one I gave on my last day at Catalyst), during the hackfest
04:29 eythian OK cool, not a bad idea then.
04:29 eythian So far I know of two or three others around here who are regularly building their own Koha packages for use.
04:30 Topic for #koha is now Happy Birthday Eythian
04:30 eythian ...
04:30 rangi yep, magnuse and jcamins
04:31 liw I seem to occasionally notice discussions along the lines of "the packages do what for me? oh, that's nice, I didn't know that", so spreading that knowlege around sounds like a win
04:31 rangi yep
04:31 eythian rangi: also the Hungaustralians.
04:31 rangi ah yes
04:31 liw eythian, hyvää syntymäpäivää!
04:31 eythian liw: dankjewel
04:31 eythian liw: yeah, those do come up a bit
04:33 rangi you are awake early liw
04:34 liw rangi, yeah, interrupted sleep and going back to bed in a bit
04:34 rangi ahhh :) hope round 2 goes better :)
04:34 * eythian is off home. Got to go sign a lease, pay bond, pay deposit, etc.
04:35 liw eythian, have fun
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04:42 * rangi is compiling a kernel for the first time in about 8 years
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04:45 Brooke o/
04:48 bag well happy birthday eythian
04:49 Brooke orlly
04:49 * Brooke hands eythian a beer.
04:49 Brooke what is he, 17 now?
04:50 Judit 17 :)
04:51 Judit no beer for him then
04:51 Brooke fah, Kiwis are like the Irish
04:51 Brooke if someone can see over the bar, it's all good.
04:51 * Brooke ducks the rotten tomatoes.
04:54 Brooke feh
04:54 Brooke NZ has the same dumb thing going on with law that we do
04:54 Brooke You're old enough to shoot someone in service to your flag
04:54 Brooke but not old enough to knock back a pint.
04:55 rangi its 18 for both
04:56 Brooke[…],498805ddc,0.html
04:57 Brooke granted, our shenanigans let us ship out like 14 year olds. Highly unlikely that'll occur, but it *is* possible.
04:57 rangi yep, you cant be deployed until you are 18
04:57 rangi so you can be in the army when you are 17
04:57 rangi you cant shoot someone until you are 18
04:58 Brooke no, you can't shoot an enemy beyond your borders until 18.
04:58 rangi ydo you cant be deployed
04:58 rangi doesnt matter where
04:58 Brooke doesn't say you can't handle a rifle.
04:59 * Brooke remembers being in the pit with a pimple faced kid.
04:59 rangi you cant shoot someone
04:59 rangi you can handle a rifle just fine, you just arent allowed to use it
05:01 rangi if you want to be an officer, you can apply at 17.5 but cant enlist until you are 18
05:01 Brooke without parental consent
05:02 Brooke or spousal.
05:02 rangi no
05:02 rangi they wont take you
05:02 rangi and you have to be 19 by the time you graduate
05:02 rangi they dont want officers younger than 19
05:02 Judit if you have a rifle you can shoot anyone- evenif you dont have a permisson  to do so
05:02 * rangi spent a signficant amount of time in the defense building working in the archives when at uni
05:03 rangi Judit: and its against the law, no different to farmers or anyone else who has a rifle
05:04 rangi if you want to be electronic warfare, they wont even take you at less than 19
05:04 rangi as a recruit
05:05 Brooke it's 17 to join.[…]-up/am-i-eligible
05:06 liw I'm sure the NZ forces are happy to take on 17-year-olds to do dishes until they grow up :P
05:06 Brooke roflmao
05:06 rangi Brooke: depends on the role if you read further
05:06 Brooke good dishwashers are in short supply anywhere
05:07 liw (I did my military service in .fi mostly doing dishes)
05:07 Brooke right, but they'll take you at 17.
05:07 rangi and yes you can be a rifleman recruit at 17
05:07 rangi not for officers they wont
05:07 rangi or electronic warfare
05:07 rangi they wont take an officer recruit until 18
05:07 rangi you can apply at 17.5 tho
05:08 rangi you can drive a truck at 17 too
05:08 rangi or be a chef
05:08 Brooke
05:08 Brooke just sayin'
05:09 rangi yes cadets
05:09 rangi its not like they deploy cadets, or they are allowed to shoot people
05:10 liw I like armies that aren't allowed to shoot people
05:10 rangi apart from the SAS
05:10 liw they're almost as good as libraries that allow you to read books for free
05:10 rangi nz army hasnt fired a shot in combat in years
05:11 rangi and i guarantee theres no 17 year olds in the SAS :)
05:11 liw :)
05:12 rangi the nz army mostly goes round rebuilding stuff everyone else blew up these days
05:13 rangi and we dont even have a strike force in the airforce anymore
05:13 rangi we could crash a hercules at you
05:13 rangi or an orion
05:13 rangi :)
05:13 Brooke similar combat readiness to the proper Irish Army, imo.
05:14 Brooke one of the local magazines awarded that lot a case of suds once. Between them. XD
05:14 Brooke Standing guard + Neutral country = posh job
05:15 rangi oh we get shot at a lot
05:15 rangi we just dont get to shoot back
05:15 rangi there were engineers in iraq, and afghanistan
05:15 rangi building bridges et al
05:15 Brooke mm hmm
05:15 rangi and timor peace keepers etc
05:17 rangi i think we pulled the engineers out now, i think only one sas unit left .. but they will never confirm nor deny that fact
05:17 rangi thats how the SAS roll
05:17 rangi you only know where they were
05:17 rangi not where they are
05:18 Brooke >.>
05:18 Brooke <.<
05:18 rangi my maori oral history lecturer was ex SAS
05:19 rangi helped getting access to the defense records of WWII soldiers
05:19 Brooke yeah I was at a gathering the other day
05:19 Brooke and was like you need to talk to these 2 people
05:19 Brooke cause the guy was telling some pretty good stories
05:20 Brooke that I knew had at very least a kernel of truth
05:20 rangi . The final exercise is a 60-kilometre endurance march, carrying a 35 kg pack, web gear and rifle, to be completed in under 20 hours
05:20 rangi bugger that for a joke
05:20 Brooke yeah, I was just talking about a 50/20 at fencing
05:20 Brooke and I was like orlly
05:20 Brooke unburdened?
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05:20 Brooke no problem!
05:21 cait morning #koha
05:21 cait and happy birthday eythian :)
05:21 Brooke morning cait :D
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05:21 rangi hi cait
05:21 cait evening rangi
05:24 rangi i wonder if this computer will catch fire before the kernel finishes compliting
05:24 rangi compiling too
05:24 Brooke are we cheering for or against the fire?
05:24 cait the ithing again?
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05:24 Brooke it *is* beer o' clock...
05:25 liw rangi, are you compiling your own kernel in order to get a fix for fan control? :)
05:25 rangi partially :)
05:25 Brooke heh, wouldn't put it past him
05:25 rangi i inherited an old ibook 2.2 that was going to just leach toxic waste into the landfill, purged all the proprietary crap off it and got debian on it
05:26 rangi but the sleep/hibernate is a bit dicy
05:26 Brooke yeah
05:26 Brooke those little guys get hot, too
05:26 rangi so playing around to see if i can get it behave a bit nicer
05:26 Brooke almost burnt me lap at one point
05:27 rangi also with 600MB ram, taking things out of the kernel it doesnt use/need doesnt hurt too
05:27 * Brooke nods.
05:27 rangi then it will be a perfectly decent gcompris, kidsplay box for kahu
05:27 Brooke 600 seems an odd amount of ram. Didn't it used to be 512ish?
05:28 rangi MemTotal:         635416 kB
05:28 * Brooke votes for TuxRacer
05:28 * liw votes for Python ;-)
05:28 rangi :)
05:29 rangi well ill start with logo
05:29 rangi then maybe we'll jump to go :)
05:30 rangi skip ruby, or ill have to buy him a vespa and ironic tshirts
05:30 Brooke XD
05:30 Brooke did I tell you what my Da said to Tom?
05:30 cait lol
05:31 Brooke a few Thanksgivings back, we passed a scooter dealer.
05:31 Brooke and the little mister was like "Meh, why do they sell those, no one looks good on them."
05:31 Brooke I grunted, cause I have a few ideas of me own.
05:31 rangi ruby on rails
05:31 rangi its almost the law
05:31 Brooke the old man is like "Italian women look great on em."
05:32 Brooke certainly a meme for that methinks
05:33 Brooke it's like Librarians + Cats.
05:33 Brooke dogs are half optional
05:33 Brooke but cats seem near mandatory
05:33 liw there's a whole movie based on Ms. Hepburn and Mr. Peck looking good on a scooter
05:33 Brooke aye liw
05:33 Brooke liw++
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05:47 Amit_Gupta heya bag
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06:06 rangi liw: pleased to report obnam 0.26 is working fine on this ppc
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06:33 alex_a bonjour
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06:35 reiveune hello
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06:38 marcelr hello koha
06:39 cait hi marcelr :)
06:39 marcelr hi cait
06:39 rangi hi marcelr
06:40 cait marcelr: working on a fix for the serial subscription alert... or trying to
06:40 rangi and alex_a and reiveune
06:40 marcelr hi rangi
06:40 reiveune hi rangi marcelr cait and everybody :)
06:40 marcelr hi reiveune
06:41 cait hi reiveune :)
06:43 alex_a hi rangi, cait and marcelr
06:48 marcelr hi alex_a
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06:56 paul_p good morning #koha
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07:00 marcelr hi paul_p
07:00 paul_p ih marcelr
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07:06 asaurat hi
07:06 wahanui hello, asaurat
07:13 magnuse kia ora #koha!
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07:14 gaetan_B hello #koha
07:15 gaetan_B happy birthday eythian ! ;)
07:15 marcelr hi magnuse gaetan_B
07:16 alex_a ah ?
07:16 alex_a happy birthday eythian
07:16 magnuse hiya gaetan_B marcelr alex_a
07:16 magnuse happy birthday eythian
07:16 alex_a bonjour magnuse
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07:16 Joubu hello !
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07:19 marcelr hi joubu
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07:34 kf hi #koha
07:38 marcelr hi kf again
07:38 paul_p hi kf & magnuse
07:38 magnuse bonjour paul_p
07:39 paul_p marcelr any plan to do some QA today ?
07:39 paul_p I plan to work on QA/push all today, so maybe we should/could coordinate if you plan to
07:40 kf paul_p: I have a request
07:40 paul_p hey... some patches have passed QA during the night :D
07:40 magnuse paul_p++
07:40 kf please don't qa on biblibre patches
07:40 paul_p unfortunatly, the QAed ones are the easy ones.
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07:43 marcelr paul_p: i don't know yet
07:44 paul_p marcelr = OK, i'll report what i'm working on here then
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08:17 magnuse huh, no-one ever thought about making the news items in koha available as RSS?
08:18 kf you should do that then :)
08:18 magnuse i can at least create a bug for it
08:18 mbalmer twitter integration!
08:23 magnuse mbalmer: importing tweets into the opac or pushing news items out to twitter?
08:24 mbalmer the latter.  but I was not 100% serious..
08:24 magnuse hehe
08:30 rangi anyone know samuel desseaux ?
08:30 kf I think he was on the chan
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08:30 mbalmer only from the mail he sent.
08:30 kf and wrote some bugs
08:30 kf i was not aware that he is in france until now
08:31 macphisto hi everybody!
08:31 rangi hi macphisto
08:32 rangi i guess we might need to ask him to write up a quick proposal
08:33 kf hm yes
08:33 kf or a descripton about translation manager in general
08:33 kf I think people are not sure what it involves
08:33 rangi true
08:34 rangi maybe show him[…]_for_3.4_Proposal
08:35 kf meeting
08:35 rangi i can write a quick email if ppl think that would be useful
08:35 kf_mtg bbl
08:35 kf_mtg it would be :)
08:36 macphisto yes, it's me who has just added my name on the wiki. The link is a good summary of the position
08:38 rangi cool
08:38 rangi i think there is one i did for 3.2 too
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08:40 rangi but maybe not, cant find it
08:41 macphisto to be involved is a good idea but it takes many time, it 's sure. As librarian system, i know there's many ways to help the project
08:41 rangi yep, the main bit of time would be in setting up a pootle instance
08:41 rangi at the start
08:42 rangi then before each release, you need to commit the updated .po files
08:42 rangi the rest is mostly answering questions, and you have kf to help with that :) she knows a lot about how the translations work
08:43 rangi it might be that fredericd will want to continue to host the pootle instance
08:44 rangi and just hand over admin .. but I dont know .. a possibility maybe
08:47 macphisto ok
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08:54 rangi macphisto: where in france are you?
08:54 rangi paris?
08:55 macphisto yes
08:59 * rangi was last there in 2006 for kohacon
09:01 macphisto i work for this school
09:01 rangi ahhh
09:01 rangi cool
09:02 rangi we were at ecole des mines
09:02 macphisto ok, before, i work at the Ecole Nationale des Chartes (where koha run :-))
09:03 rangi ahhh
09:03 rangi maybe at your school in a few years too :)
09:07 macphisto cool
09:08 slef argh bugzilla silently discards emails if it doesn't recognise the sender? :(
09:09 * slef does the change-email-address shuffle
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09:23 paul_p bonjour samuel ( macphisto )
09:24 macphisto bonjour
09:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7701: Error when sending serial alerts <[…]1ce805bff875b157f> / Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid <[…]67f56e1b968aaf229> / Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU... <
09:26 slef paul_p: I resent the items=1 reply
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09:57 Oak kia ora #koha
09:57 magnuse Oak
09:57 Oak magnuse
09:57 magnuse yay!
09:57 Oak :)
09:59 macphisto see you soon :-)
10:01 Oak do many libraries use the Koha acquisition module?
10:02 magnuse Oak: impossible to tell specific numbers...
10:03 magnuse but i think there are a fair number that do
10:03 magnuse biblibre has done some development on it, so probably a number of their customers
10:03 Oak hmm
10:03 magnuse and some of kf's customers
10:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #687: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/687/
10:05 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7485 - Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add
10:05 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 4819: Add ids to OPAC detail page
10:05 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7436 - Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE
10:05 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT
10:05 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid
10:05 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 7701: Error when sending serial alerts
10:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7485 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add
10:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ID attribute to certain areas of OPAC so jquery can be used to hide them
10:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE
10:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT
10:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order
10:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7701 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error when sending serial alerts
10:05 magnuse success! woohoo!
10:05 Oak but it's okay to skip configuring/using it if the client want to do acquisitions the way they like to do...
10:05 Oak manually
10:06 magnuse yeah sure, you don't have to use it
10:06 Oak good. okay.
10:16 paul_p marcelr = I've QAed 4032, but as it's a BibLibre patch, I haven't set "passed QA" status. If you can have a look at it...
10:17 marcelr paul_p: saw it
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10:30 kmkale Happy birthday eythian :)
10:32 paul_p marcelr same thing for bug 7291
10:32 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , claims management improvement
10:32 paul_p and it's time to head for lunch... brb
10:33 Oak kmkale, any Z39.50 server from India I can use for importing MARC records for management sciences LPE books?
10:35 kmkale Oak: Not that I am aware of
10:43 magnuse Oak:
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10:50 Safwan83 hey
10:51 Safwan83 anyone here?
10:52 Safwan83 i have a question plz sombdy answear me...ay Koha community member around?
10:52 Safwan83 any*
11:05 Oak thank you magnus_lunch !
11:13 BobB @seen slef
11:13 huginn BobB: slef was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 47 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <slef> paul_p: I resent the items=1 reply
11:14 BobB slef: ping
11:22 BobB @later tell slef to check his email re kohacon12 letter
11:22 huginn BobB: The operation succeeded.
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11:50 hdl hi BobB
11:51 hdl @later tell eythian happy birthday
11:51 huginn hdl: The operation succeeded.
11:51 BobB hi hdl  :)
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11:56 hdl hope you're fine.
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12:14 gmcharlt good morning
12:14 slef gmcharlt: no, not really ;) Hope yours is better
12:15 gmcharlt slef: oh dear ... what happened?
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12:15 slef gmcharlt: server throwing a disk slowly
12:16 slef gmcharlt: or actually, the disk has been replaced once (yay RAID) after tests by the hardware supplier but now it's dying again, so maybe it's something else. Not much fun.
12:18 gmcharlt slef: indeed not; best wishes for a speedy recovery
12:21 oleonard Hi #koha
12:21 marcelr hi oleonard gmcharlt
12:23 gmcharlt hi marcelr
12:30 paul_p good morning oleonard & gmcharlt
12:30 gmcharlt hi paul_p
12:32 paul_p gmcharlt will you be available in a few hours, I may want to speak with you of your bug 7818
12:32 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records
12:32 paul_p (for now, i'm QAing & pushing...)
12:33 gmcharlt paul_p: yes
12:34 liw rangi, obnam on ppc: awesome
12:38 paul_p marcelr i'm on bug 7641 now (that has some trivial conflicts)
12:38 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves.
12:39 marcelr ok, not qa-ing for now
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13:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7835 - submit and cancel buttons on diff lines on notices <[…]2fc6389484b0cc7d8> / bug 7641 follow-up: remove some unconditionnal warns <[…]9136bece143841dbc> / bug 7641 follow-up: activate use strict (see coding guidelines) <
13:30 oleonard Whew, it had been too long since I had a patch pushed. I was starting to get the shakes.
13:32 kf oleonard++
13:32 magnus_afk oleonard++
13:33 oleonard kf++ # for taking notes for me during my talk on staff client interface patterns
13:33 oleonard I'm staring to go through them finally
13:33 kf oh
13:33 kf hope they are understandable
13:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #688 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:33 magnus_afk kf++
13:34 oleonard magnus_afk: Will you be at KohaCon?
13:34 magnus_afk nope, sorry
13:35 oleonard Me neither, so at least I'm not missing another opportunity to meet you in person.
13:35 * wizzyrea won't be there either :(
13:35 * kf sniffs
13:35 magnus_afk we're having a baby - it's due on june 26th, but i better stick around at home :-)
13:35 * magnus_afk sniffs too
13:35 * kf passes the paper tissues
13:35 magnus_afk oleonard: there will be more opportunities
13:35 * wizzyrea recalls oleonard being at kohacon09 with a baby due in the next... several weeks?
13:36 oleonard Yup, I took the chance :)
13:36 wizzyrea but he was only in texas :P
13:36 * magnus_afk is very curious about if and where there will be a kohacon13...
13:36 wizzyrea actually, probably about the same distance
13:36 * wizzyrea forgets how huge the US is
13:36 * oleonard is glad he took the chance or he wouldn't have met wizzyrea in person
13:36 wizzyrea and takes it for granted, all at the same time
13:36 wizzyrea :D me too.
13:37 wizzyrea maybe it will be mexico city
13:37 wizzyrea that would be cool
13:37 * wizzyrea has a passport and (funds permitting) isn't afraid to use it
13:37 magnus_afk yay!
13:37 * oleonard plans a pity-party for all the non-KohaCon-goers
13:37 wizzyrea y'all can come down to lawrence :P
13:38 magnus_afk yes please!
13:38 kf I would like croatia :)
13:38 * oleonard votes for Croatia too!
13:38 wizzyrea sure why not :)
13:38 magnus_afk fine by me!
13:38 * jcamins_away is planning on going to Lawrence for the "no KohaCon for you" pity party this year.
13:38 magnus_afk but it's hardly europe's turn again...
13:39 wizzyrea we really ought to make that sort of official.
13:39 kf do we have to? :(
13:39 magnus_afk the pity party?
13:39 magnus_afk or the continent "rule"?
13:39 * chris_n hears a big splash in his pool of assigned bugs
13:40 kf lol
13:40 kf big one?
13:40 wizzyrea well a "can't travel to europe but still want to have a koha hackfest in the US at or near the same time" thing.
13:40 chris_n right now they're all big kf :-)
13:40 wizzyrea no I like the continent rule
13:40 kf ok, gone again
13:40 kf bbl
13:41 macphisto hi! i plan too for the kohacon.There's a meeting in Paris in May for the french users (a colleague gave me the news yesterday) and it will be my first kohacon
13:41 magnus_afk according to wolfram alpha the distance from bodø to edinburgh is 1558 km
13:41 jcamins_away Hehe.
13:41 jcamins This is odd.
13:41 jcamins Finally!
13:41 jcamins I can't seem to change my nick.
13:41 wizzyrea how far from athens to plano texas?
13:41 jcamins Okay...
13:41 wizzyrea athens ohio
13:41 jcamins That was weird.
13:42 * chris_n looks around for the space-time continuum warping module
13:42 magnus_afk 1488km
13:42 magnus_afk[…]to+plano%2C+texas
13:42 * magnus_afk takes the dogs for a walk
13:42 jcamins Heh. Only 70km difference.
13:42 wizzyrea I got 1 749
13:43 wizzyrea from google
13:43 wizzyrea but that's "road distance"
13:43 wizzyrea shorter if you fly :P
13:44 wizzyrea chris_n: busy busy eh?
13:44 chris_n well, I thought you could use it to be in europe and n america at once ;-)
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13:54 chris_n dpavlin++ # for bug 7846
13:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , get_batch_summary massive speedup
13:54 chris_n massive is an understatement
13:54 tcohen hi #koha
13:54 chris_n wizzyrea ^^
13:54 chris_n your folks should love that one
13:55 chris_n heya tcohen
13:55 wizzyrea oooh
13:55 tcohen can anyone give me some explanation of a proper my-own-git setup for a production server?
13:55 wizzyrea holy crap
13:55 wizzyrea that's amazing.
13:55 chris_n complete with flames
13:56 tcohen i'd like it to follow 3.6.x
13:56 chris_n maybe photons really can exceed the speed of light, heh?
13:56 jcamins tcohen: don't use git for production.
13:56 chris_n tcohen: what he said
13:56 chris_n use packages
13:57 tcohen r they suitable for production already?
13:57 tcohen never used them
13:58 jcamins tcohen: yes. git is not.
13:58 tcohen suppose we already use git for every project here at the university
13:59 tcohen and would like to maintain some of our customisations in our dev git repo
14:00 tcohen i mean, we need to use git, locally
14:02 tcohen does anyone use a dev install against a git checkout?
14:02 wizzyrea almost everyone does - for dev.
14:02 wizzyrea version control using git
14:02 wahanui somebody said version control using git was at[…]Control_Using_Git
14:02 wizzyrea that's really the best guide
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14:04 tcohen i suppose some vendors use some kind of dev install for their customers...
14:04 tcohen if they sell and maintain customizations
14:04 jcamins tcohen: sorry, I misunderstood what you wanted.
14:04 jcamins I thought you were talking about the latter option.
14:04 jcamins (using a dev install for production)
14:05 jcamins That's a bad idea. Much better to use packages for production. For your own work, much better to use git.
14:05 jcamins Roll your own packages for installing on production if you have customizations.
14:06 tcohen jcamins: that's a good advise
14:07 tcohen packages are suitable for multi-site deploys, right?
14:08 jcamins Yes.
14:08 jcamins I use packages exclusively for production.
14:08 tcohen thanks jcamins, i'll try that way
14:08 jcamins I roll my own packages, based on 3.6.x, but with additional patches merged in.
14:09 tcohen and how do you maintain your git repo in sync?
14:09 tcohen do u push master against your git?
14:09 tcohen i mean, the 3.6.x branch?
14:09 jcamins My setup might be considered a bit Byzantine.
14:09 jcamins I have one system I do all my development on.
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14:09 jcamins That one has a gazillion branches, and is usually on Master.
14:10 tcohen so you do your work locally
14:10 jcamins I have another system which does not run Koha at all, just has the git repo for packaging.
14:10 slef jcamins: do you have git gr configured?
14:10 slef wahanui: git gr?
14:10 wahanui slef: bugger all, i dunno
14:10 jcamins git gr?
14:10 jcamins I push my 3.6.x-based changes to that repo, build the packages, and then deploy to a third system, which is my staging server.
14:11 slef git gr is gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color --pretty=tformat:"%x1b[31m%h%x09%x1b[32​m%x1b[0m%x20%s%x20%x1b[33m(%an)%x1b[0m" in the [alias] section of .gitconfig
14:11 slef wahanui: git gr?
14:11 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, slef
14:11 slef wahanui: you suck
14:11 wahanui slef: sorry...
14:11 slef wahanui: git gr is gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color --pretty=tformat:"%x1b[31m%h%x09%x1b[32​m%x1b[0m%x20%s%x20%x1b[33m(%an)%x1b[0m" in the [alias] section of .gitconfig
14:11 jcamins I test that everything's working as intended, then upload and install to my production servers.
14:11 slef wahanui: git gr?
14:11 wahanui slef: i don't know
14:11 * slef kills wahanui
14:11 slef wahanui: die!
14:11 wahanui slef: what?
14:11 slef wahanui: have a lethal botsnack
14:11 wahanui thanks slef :)
14:12 slef :)?
14:12 wahanui :) is ok
14:12 jcamins That is so cool!
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14:12 libsysguy soliciting thoughts: instant fine calculation on checkin?
14:13 slef libsysguy: what's the down side?  Race conditions?
14:13 Oak how do I display edition of a book in opac normal view?
14:13 libsysguy in addition to running it nightly/whenever so patrons can still see their fines
14:13 wizzyrea it doesn't show that in xslt view?
14:13 slef Oak: enable XSLT or ISBD display and edit the stylesheet or template if it's not shown?
14:13 libsysguy heh slef you might see a .0001 s knock in checkin performance
14:14 Oak okay got it.
14:14 Oak thank you!
14:14 libsysguy but since you're not doing it for all items, its very VERY nominal
14:14 slef anyone else think "normal" view is a bit misnamed? Or does it follow a norm that I've not noticed?
14:14 jcamins slef: it is very much misnamed.
14:14 wizzyrea yes, i think so.
14:14 wizzyrea what does it mean, actually?
14:15 libsysguy i think wizzyrea had some apprehension toward it when I brought it up about a yeah ago
14:15 jcamins libsysguy: I think that's a great idea, personally.
14:15 slef I think it's an HLT legacy view BICBW
14:15 libsysguy year**
14:15 * wizzyrea considers them "the sucky" and "not sucky" view
14:15 oleonard "What a general public patron would normally expect to see in a library catalog"
14:15 wizzyrea I did, but only because of performance issues
14:15 wizzyrea if it's not that big of a deal then sure, go ahead.
14:15 wizzyrea ;)
14:15 slef libsysguy: what happens if the same patron checks in two books at the same moment?
14:16 jcamins Yeah, I'd want to be very sure that it had minimal impact on performance.
14:16 jcamins However, if it really is completely minimal, it'd certainly be useful.
14:16 libsysguy oleonard: I meant to show you my new opac customizations[…]
14:16 Oak coool. worked.
14:16 slef oleonard: I think you mean usually, not normally.
14:16 oleonard Whatever.
14:17 libsysguy slef, it would just calculate when AddReturn got called
14:17 jcamins libsysguy: you should remove the "Actions" line.
14:17 oleonard Looks really nice libsysguy
14:17 * slef wanders off back into the git tree, muttering about these damned merkins breaking the language
14:17 jcamins And, for that matter, the "Log in to add tags" line.
14:17 libsysguy jcamins, agreed
14:17 jcamins And what happened to your nice two-line availability display?
14:18 libsysguy umm those got killed in the great rebase to master
14:18 libsysguy but i am working on rebasing my patch
14:18 libsysguy but I have to wander back off into the wiki to find out how to do syspref additions again
14:18 libsysguy apparently the way it is now is an old way
14:18 jcamins And you might want to set the background on the body tag to match that darker tannish color.
14:19 libsysguy oh for when the picture runs out?
14:19 libsysguy on say larger screen resolutions
14:19 libsysguy I have that problem at work too
14:19 jcamins Yeah.
14:19 wizzyrea it's purty :)
14:19 jcamins There's an unsightly bar at the bottom.
14:19 libsysguy I had to model it after this
14:20 libsysguy ugh I know…I think it is the opac credits
14:20 wizzyrea oh yea def set the background on the body tag.
14:20 libsysguy I haven't gotten around to building a footer yet
14:20 jcamins Hm, in that case you'll want to use that dark gray.
14:20 libsysguy yeah for sure
14:20 libsysguy my poor 13" screen misses some things
14:21 tcohen jcamins: thanks
14:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #688: UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/688/
14:21 jenkins_koha * kyle: Bug 7641: Suspend Reserves
14:21 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up DBRev number
14:21 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up: activate use strict (see coding guidelines)
14:21 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up: remove some unconditionnal warns
14:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves.
14:21 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7835 - submit and cancel buttons on diff lines on notices
14:21 jcamins Aside from all the work I just added to your plate, though, looks good!
14:21 jcamins :)
14:21 libsysguy jcamins, wizzyrea thanks for looking over it :)
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14:22 libsysguy I've been getting complaints all morning about instant fine calculation being gone :'(
14:22 libsysguy apparently it was a popular feature
14:22 jcamins I'm not surprised.
14:22 jcamins I certainly noticed the lack immediately when I started using Koha.
14:22 libsysguy for hourly its a super useful tool for horuly
14:23 libsysguy hourly**
14:23 libsysguy i just wanted to make sure if I submitted it I wouldn't get smacked down to the bottom of bugzilla :p
14:25 wizzyrea libsysguy: I'd say submit it
14:25 wizzyrea ffs evergreen does it.
14:25 wizzyrea :P
14:25 libsysguy ok, I'm creating the ticket now
14:29 gmcharlt wizzyrea: hey now! ;)
14:30 slef gmcharlt: as in: hey now hey now, don't dream it's over?
14:32 * jcamins heads over to the old apartment for almost the last time.
14:32 wizzyrea oh I know right.
14:33 * wizzyrea can't believe that windows doesn't natively untar things
14:33 * wizzyrea is righteously annoyed by this fact.
14:33 slef do I withhold a signoff for a cosmetic problem on an enh?
14:34 jcamins_away slef: depends how bad it is.
14:34 slef jcamins_away: every record numbered 0 instead of 1, 2, 3, ...  Doesn't seem to have a practical effect.
14:34 wizzyrea which bug slef?
14:34 slef bug 7613
14:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
14:35 slef it's a really really nice enh
14:35 wizzyrea you think it would be easy to fix in a followup?
14:35 wizzyrea and that the followup would be done before release?
14:35 slef depends on the root cause
14:35 jcamins_away ^^
14:35 * slef wonders why jcamins_away underlined "on" for him ;)
14:36 * jcamins_away was trying to point at wizzyrea's question.
14:36 wizzyrea I use it as a "what they said" mechanism
14:37 * jcamins_away actually leaves.
14:37 slef I don't know if the followup would be done pre-release
14:39 slef on further inspection, the bug isn't introduced by the enh... it's an older bug, merely exposed by it
14:40 slef I think I'll signoff
14:41 wizzyrea yep, I think that merits a signoff.
14:43 slef done
14:43 slef bug 7613
14:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib
14:44 kf can someone point me in the right direction?
14:44 wizzyrea go north
14:45 kf I need an sql to replace / with - in a couple of barcodes
14:45 kf wizzyrea: it's cold in the north!
14:45 slef mysql manual?
14:45 wizzyrea sorry, go south
14:45 wizzyrea ^.^
14:45 wizzyrea but not too far south
14:45 reiveune bye
14:45 kf slef: yes, but was thinking about a function perhaps
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14:46 slef kf:[…]#function_replace
14:47 kf aha
14:47 kf thx
14:47 kf :)
14:47 slef mysql manual is
14:47 slef kf: if you're coding, mbalmer will tell you off if that's a mysqlism
14:47 slef ;)
14:47 kf missing the obvious again
14:48 kf slef: no, only need it to clean up some barcodes
14:48 slef (quite rightly)
14:48 kf to make the barcode autogeneration work
14:48 kf we have a mix of - and /
14:48 kf and it doesn't like that
14:50 oleonard I've found the mysql docs to be full of mysqlisms
14:51 kf slef++
14:52 kf it works very nicely :)
14:52 kf and so easy
14:52 kf I was scared I would have to fiddle around with substrings and the like
14:54 chris_n oleonard: LOL
14:54 chris_n bad habit they have there
15:08 mbalmer slef, I guess for most function calls we can either find a neutral form, and if not, we add it to C4::DBQ.
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15:32 paul_p passed QA list => Zarro bugs found ! signed-off list => 5 bugs found ! we need ppl signoff to feed the QA team & RM :D :D ...
15:36 slef paul_p: and the link to Needs Signoff is in the footer of
15:36 paul_p yep. 83 !
15:36 slef I can't help with bug 7619 because I am in the wrong country ;)
15:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , 3M self checkout don't work in France
15:36 paul_p a few of them being tricky, and waiting since more than 2 months
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15:37 paul_p slef not at all ! you can help by testing if your GB self checkout still work after applying the patch or not. that's the question I want to have an answer to for now.
15:37 slef ah I've already been breaking papa's balls on one bug. I think I will look for easy ones next !
15:37 slef paul_p: will need to wait for me to be on site and have time
15:41 wizzyrea paul_p: I think that happens only on the newest updated 3M software
15:41 nengard git help please :)
15:41 nengard how do revert the last commit?
15:42 wizzyrea on one file?
15:42 gmcharlt nengard: git revert HEAD
15:42 gmcharlt to revert the entire last commit
15:42 kf if you want to keep te changes you could do a git reset --soft HEAD^
15:43 paul_p and if you want to discard all git reset --hard HEAD^
15:43 * wizzyrea was going to suggest git checkout <file>, but that would be similar to a reset hard.
15:43 gmcharlt in other words, Git is actually Perl - TMTOWTDI
15:43 wizzyrea worse, really
15:44 wizzyrea didn't know about revert, thanks gmcharlt :)
15:44 nengard even if the commit has been pushed?
15:44 gmcharlt now if you're talking about revert a commit in a branch that you've published -- then do it via git revert
15:44 nengard i broke the manual :)
15:44 slef wahanui: TMTOWTDI?
15:44 wahanui i think TMTOWTDI is there's more than one way to do it
15:44 slef :)
15:45 gmcharlt nengard: right - in that case, definitely revert, then push
15:48 nengard thanks!
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16:02 nengard question about new SubscriptionDuplicateDroppedInput  preference (I know I can test-  but thought I'd ask first)
16:02 nengard the description isn't clear to me
16:02 nengard what happens to the fields I put in there?
16:02 nengard they aren't duplciated? or they are? and what table does it look for fields in?
16:02 nengard subscription I assume
16:07 nengard figured it out i think :)
16:10 paul_p nengard they aren't duplicated
16:10 nengard thanks
16:10 nengard that's what i foudn
16:10 nengard found
16:10 nengard and it's the subscription table
16:10 nengard in the DB
16:10 paul_p yep
16:11 paul_p for me it's family time now ! see you tomorrow #koha !
16:12 nengard see ya!
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17:09 slef @query libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl
17:09 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans
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17:13 slef anyone else think that's a missing build-depends?
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17:14 slef eythian: can you add libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl to Build-Depends, or shall I do the bug shuffle?
17:14 slef @seen eythian
17:14 huginn slef: eythian was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 39 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * eythian is off home. Got to go sign a lease, pay bond, pay deposit, etc.
17:14 libsysguy slef is that the dep for hourly?
17:14 slef libsysguy: seems like a mainstream dep
17:15 libsysguy ok i was jw, I saw where builds kept fialing
17:15 libsysguy failing**
17:15 slef oooh, build fails
17:15 slef jenkins_koha: status
17:15 jenkins_koha status of all projects:
17:15 jenkins_koha 3_6_Packages: last build: 7 (3 days 15 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/3_6_Packages/7/
17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_3.2.x: last build: 36 (3 mo 26 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/36/
17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_3.4.x: last build: 80 (1 mo 7 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/80/
17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_3.6.x: last build: 44 (24 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/44/
17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_Docs: last build: 41 (57 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_Docs/41/
17:15 jenkins_koha Koha_master: last build: 688 (3 hr 42 min ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/688/
17:15 jenkins_koha Master_Packages: last build: 22 (7 hr 10 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ster_Packages/22/
17:16 libsysguy looks better now :p
17:18 rangi No check console output master can't build packages
17:19 slef @query libreadonly-perl
17:19 slef that's missing too
17:19 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans
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17:22 rangi There is a module that has a create dbh call in the begin block. Breaks the tests when building packages plus the dependencies
17:22 tcohen anyone knows what is that apache2 package in the catalyst debian repo about?
17:22 slef so package-building is currently hopeless?
17:23 rangi On master yes needs 2 fixes
17:23 rangi Both easy
17:24 rangi Tcohen: you don't need the catalyst repo
17:24 slef C4/Barcodes/ and C4/External/ ?
17:24 slef point me at the bug or fix and let's get it to paul_p
17:24 tcohen rangi: what about the perl packages?
17:25 tcohen (hi rangi)
17:25 rangi It's all in mainline koha
17:26 rangi Slef can't easily on phone will when I get to a computer
17:26 tcohen rangi: there are unmet dependencies
17:26 slef rangi: ok, I'm out this evening. I'll return to this tomorrow.
17:27 rangi But Jenkins tells u if u look at console output
17:27 slef rangi: but I'll read logs in the morning
17:27 slef yeah I looked at that
17:27 slef it's where I got those filenames from
17:28 rangi It's not them its to do with heading:: something
17:28 rangi IIRC
17:28 slef C4::Heading::UNIMARC?
17:28 rangi Yeah that
17:28 wahanui i think Yeah that is fine as it is
17:29 rangi Or marc21
17:29 slef wahanui: die!
17:29 wahanui errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit!
17:30 rangi Tcohen: in 3.6.x ?
17:30 slef any pointers on the fix?
17:31 rangi All of them are in squeeze
17:31 tcohen i'm testing squeeze stable koha-common on Ubuntu Lucid
17:31 slef @query C4::Heading::UNIMARC
17:31 huginn slef: Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements
17:31 tcohen and ge tunmet dependencies
17:31 rangi Slef: it doesn't need to be in the begin
17:31 rangi Could be in the init sub instead
17:32 slef moving them, sending followup patch to 7284, reopening it
17:33 rangi Tcohen: lucid is old. Check the wiki for it. You will need to find the packages in the multiverse
17:33 tcohen i cannot find them
17:33 tcohen they are in catalyst's repo
17:33 tcohen we are waiting for 12.04 to move forward
17:33 rangi Look at the koha wiki
17:34 tcohen thanks rangi
17:34 rangi Ppl have packages on lucid working
17:35 tcohen before i end working on koha (hope i dont) i'll manage to invite you a beer
17:36 slef ok, building this again now, but leaving keyboard
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17:40 jcamins_away tcohen: I've installed via packages on Lucid.
17:41 jcamins_away Actually, I had a Puppet config to take care of that.
17:41 tcohen following the wiki for lucid?
17:41 tcohen don't know what it is
17:41 jcamins_away tcohen: yes, plus there are a few additional dependencies now, but I think they're mostly packaged.
17:41 jcamins_away Puppet is a configuration management system.
17:42 tcohen oh, gonna take a look at it
17:42 jcamins_away The wiki is pretty good, though.
17:42 jcamins_away There are a few things that look like misspellings but aren't, though, as I recall.
17:45 tcohen jcamins_away: thanks, already installed, going forward to test it
17:45 tcohen got to update from 3.0.x to 3.6 so...
17:46 jcamins_away Heh. That'll be fun.
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17:58 cait hi #koha
18:01 oleonard wb cait
18:01 cait hi oleonard :)
18:03 libsysguy anybody got a copy of master running?
18:03 jcamins_away Not here.
18:04 libsysguy I am getting the "Checked out from" field is always blank on the patron details page
18:04 magnus_afk libsysguy:
18:04 wahanui it has been said that is up to date as of right now - login: demo/demo
18:04 magnus_afk ooh, thanks wahanui
18:04 jcamins_away magnus_afk: do you have a cronjob that pulls every hour or something?
18:04 libsysguy gracias
18:04 magnus_afk well, "right now" is an exaggeration
18:05 magnus_afk jcamins_away: it pulls every night (my night, that is)
18:05 jcamins_away Ah.
18:05 magnus_afk my thought was that it should pull when the rm is sleeping :-)
18:06 cait :)
18:06 cait magnuse++
18:06 * magnus_afk wanders off again
18:06 libsysguy magnus++
18:08 libsysguy jcamins_away: I was going to ask if you saw the advanced search page for my opac when you were poking around
18:08 jcamins_away libsysguy: I don't think I did.
18:08 libsysguy[…]ha/
18:08 libsysguy I 86-ed that table of item types
18:08 libsysguy and made it a list
18:09 jcamins_away Whoah!
18:09 * jcamins_away likes!
18:09 libsysguy all with jquery
18:09 libsysguy i was pretty proud of myself
18:18 gmcharlt @quote random
18:18 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #181: "*oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf." (added by wizzyrea at 05:52 PM, January 13, 2012)
18:18 wizzyrea hehehe that's a good one
18:19 jcamins_away Hehe.
18:21 libsysguy does anyone know if there is a database cleanup script?
18:21 libsysguy old patrons, tmp data, etc
18:22 jcamins_away libsysguy: there is.
18:22 jcamins_away It's in misc/cronjobs
18:23 libsysguy and there it is…dunno why I didn't think to look there
18:27 libsysguy i just dumped my db for a backup and it was right at 5 gigs…is that about right?
18:28 jcamins_away That seems a bit high.
18:28 jcamins_away (considering the size of your library)
18:29 libsysguy I have right under 300K biblios, and about 6000 patrons
18:29 libsysguy not all of them have been in to use the library but I just import them with a feed
18:30 jcamins_away That seems large. wizzyrea's DB is, what, 7GB, and they have a lot of statistics in it.
18:30 libsysguy im just trying to figure out what might be eating up all that space
18:30 jcamins_away Uncleaned imports?
18:31 libsysguy I would be willing to bet the people importing aren't cleaning them
18:31 * jcamins_away too.
18:31 * libsysguy goes to look
18:31 * libsysguy smh
18:31 libsysguy 9 pages of uncleaned imports
18:32 jcamins_away That'll be part of it.
18:32 jcamins_away If you're storing sessions in MySQL, and haven't been cleaning them out, that'll be part of it, too.
18:32 wizzyrea actionlogs?
18:32 libsysguy ok, the cleanup script should get the session
18:33 libsysguy i dumped and am going to import to my test db and clean it up
18:33 libsysguy to make sure I don't break anything
18:33 jcamins_away wizzyrea: the data only goes back a year.
18:33 wizzyrea still, lots can get stuffed into actionlogs.
18:33 libsysguy what are the actionlogs...
18:33 wizzyrea ours was 11 with actionlogs.
18:33 libsysguy forgive my still newbness
18:34 wizzyrea every time you do something, if you have logging on, it logs it in actionlogs.
18:34 wizzyrea add a patron, remove a patron, add a bib/item, delete a bib/item
18:34 wizzyrea edit a patron
18:34 wizzyrea edit an item
18:34 wizzyrea etc.
18:34 libsysguy yup…logging is on for sure
18:34 jcamins_away wizzyrea: if NEKLS had 6GB of actionlogs, after... four years? I don't see how UT Tyler could have anything really significant in one year.
18:34 jcamins_away I mean, yeah, it'll take up some space, but that's a heck of a lot of actions.
18:34 wizzyrea certainly they could have 1 or two though
18:34 libsysguy yeah and every gig counts :p
18:34 jcamins_away Yeah, that's true.
18:35 magnus_afk sessions in the db can take up a lot of space!
18:35 wizzyrea sessions are another biggie
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18:35 * jcamins_away is betting on sessions and uncleaned imports.
18:35 jcamins_away Uncleaned imports basically *triple* the space required for one record.
18:35 libsysguy ill run the cleanup script
18:36 libsysguy is there a quick way to run the cleans
18:36 libsysguy without having to click clean for each import
18:36 jcamins_away Hmm... not that I know of.`
18:36 libsysguy well that'll give me something to do when zebra is rebuilding lol
18:37 jcamins_away The entire time, yeah.
18:37 libsysguy heh
18:37 libsysguy poor zebra
18:37 libsysguy it just wants a friend…named solr :p
18:40 slef that's an abusive relationship!
18:40 slef bbml
18:41 cait perhaps a girlfriend?
18:41 cait lucy
18:42 libsysguy maybe just some chocolate
18:45 jcamins_away Mmm. Chocolate.
18:45 jcamins_away Green tea chocolate.
18:46 jcamins_away Green tea chocolate fudge.
18:46 jcamins_away That could be really good.
18:48 rangi zomgwtf
18:49 jcamins_away rangi: You don't like green tea?
18:49 * rangi chokes under a cloud of impulse
18:49 rangi Caught the bus full of school kids
18:51 rangi No! Don't spray more
18:51 wizzyrea oh dear
18:51 * rangi contemplates a dive roll out the window
18:51 jcamins_away lol
18:53 oleonard rangi: You'll arrive to work smelling bus-fresh?
18:53 rangi Like a 14 year old
18:54 oleonard Everyone will be all, "Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!"
18:55 wizzyrea @quote add oleonard: Everyone will be all, "Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!"
18:55 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #194 added.
18:56 rangi Heh
18:56 * jcamins_away thinks that's going to raise some eyebrows in a few months.
18:56 oleonard Now when that quote comes up randomly I can try to insist I was talking about Zebra.
19:00 rangi @wunder nzwn
19:00 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
19:00 oleonard @wunder 45701
19:00 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 17.0°C (2:50 PM EDT on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
19:00 wizzyrea zebra really *does* wish he could have sex. With solr.
19:00 rangi Cloudy my butt
19:00 gmcharlt what would the love child of *that* union look like?
19:00 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence, ks
19:00 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 25.8°C (2:00 PM CDT on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Falling).
19:00 wizzyrea shiny happy zebras holding hands?
19:01 rangi It's blue skies and crisp gonna be nice
19:01 oleonard Whoa, wizzyrea, summer in KS eh?
19:01 wizzyrea jeez, nearly.
19:01 * wizzyrea remembers it's march
19:01 wizzyrea OMG
19:02 rangi For 2 more days
19:04 magnus_afk @wunder boo
19:04 huginn magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 PM CEST on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
19:07 libsysguy @quote random
19:07 huginn libsysguy: Quote #188: "oleonard: 64-bit IE9, for when you want to surf the web in a *powerfully* bad browser." (added by sekjal at 07:22 PM, February 24, 2012)
19:08 oleonard That quote has held up well.
19:08 * oleonard glares at IE9
19:09 libsysguy heh id rather deal with IE 9 than IE 7 or 8
19:14 * libsysguy just overflowed the lock table size in mysql :-/
19:15 jcamins_away libsysguy: the lock table size?
19:15 libsysguy yeah i got this message The total number of locks exceeds the lock table size
19:16 jcamins_away What are you doing?
19:16 libsysguy running the cleanup script
19:16 libsysguy and eating a sandwich
19:16 libsysguy but i guess that is irrelevant to the error…or is it
19:16 libsysguy lol
19:16 jcamins_away lol
19:17 jcamins_away Increase the InnoDB buffer size.
19:17 jcamins_away Then run the cleanup script again.
19:17 libsysguy yeah thats what I just did…waiting to see if it crashes again
19:17 libsysguy i couldn't find that entry in my.cnf
19:17 libsysguy so I just added it
19:17 libsysguy oh it says its done
19:17 libsysguy maybe that was the trick
19:18 jcamins_away You should switch to storing sessions in memcached.
19:18 * rangi munches on his hot cross bun and drinks his flat white
19:18 * libsysguy would have to set up memcache
19:18 * wizzyrea cries
19:18 wizzyrea j/k
19:18 wizzyrea kinda.
19:18 jcamins_away It's not as bad as wizzyrea makes it out to be.
19:18 rangi libsysguy: its very easy
19:18 wizzyrea no, about the hot cross buns and flat whites.
19:18 libsysguy oh well then
19:19 rangi ahh
19:19 rangi i think technically im a week early
19:19 libsysguy would I have to rebuild koha or just alter the .conf file?
19:19 wizzyrea probably - palm sunday is this week
19:19 jcamins_away libsysguy: just alter the koha-httpd.conf file.
19:20 libsysguy ok *phew*
19:20 libsysguy I thought about setting up a dedicated mysql server seperate from Koha
19:20 libsysguy so see if that would speed it up a bit
19:20 * jcamins_away didn't realize that hot cross buns were something other than a song. ;)
19:20 libsysguy maybe one server for writes and one for reads
19:20 oleonard You know, buns. With a hot cross.
19:23 rangi libsysguy: seriously you take about 30writes/sec off the db
19:23 rangi when you shift sessions
19:23 libsysguy oh wow
19:23 rangi and thats under moderate load
19:23 rangi anytime anyone does anything
19:23 libsysguy ok, well i may work on getting that set up
19:23 rangi sessions change
19:23 libsysguy is there a wiki for config?
19:23 rangi hmm not sure
19:23 libsysguy wiki session?
19:23 libsysguy darn
19:23 libsysguy i was sure the bot had some info
19:23 rangi but its not bad
19:24 rangi sudo apt-get install memcached
19:24 libsysguy ok I'll give it a go
19:24 rangi and the perl module
19:24 rangi lib something something session-perl :)
19:24 rangi its on
19:24 rangi then edit the config
19:24 libsysguy heh its always something long
19:24 libsysguy and then just alter the conf file
19:24 rangi <memcached_servers>127.0.0.​1:11211</memcached_servers>
19:25 rangi <memcached_namespace>KOHA</memcached_namespace>
19:25 rangi something like that
19:25 rangi and then switch the syspref
19:25 rangi make sure you try it on staging first
19:25 libsysguy gotcha
19:25 rangi it also means it cleans up after itself
19:25 rangi no stale sessions filling up the table :)
19:25 * libsysguy likes it when a server knows how to wipe its own…well you know
19:26 jcamins_away wahanui: search memcached
19:26 wahanui jcamins_away: what?
19:26 jcamins_away rangi: I thought we pulled the memcached configuration out of koha-conf.xml and put it into environment variables?
19:27 magnus_afk libsysguy: i forgot to mention: you could just have truncated the sessions table - much faster than running the script on it
19:27 * magnus_afk wanders off to make waffels
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19:27 libsysguy heh thanks magnus_afk
19:27 rangi oh in master yeah
19:27 rangi sorry i always assume ppl are running stable
19:28 jcamins_away rangi: everyone other than libsysguy and chris_n is. :P
19:28 libsysguy never runs a stable version :p
19:28 libsysguy likes life on the edge
19:28 chris_n stable? what's that?
19:28 libsysguy ^^
19:28 rangi so yeah those things need to be in your apache config, not the koha-conf.xml
19:29 rangi accept the syspref of course
19:29 rangi assuming of course someone has made the changes consistently
19:29 * rangi checks
19:30 libsysguy yeah i see it in koha-httpd.conf
19:31 jcamins_away It looks like SetEnv memcached_servers whatever, I think.
19:32 libsysguy yeah, ok got it switched over
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19:38 cait wizzyrea: around?
19:38 wizzyrea yep, sup
19:38 cait need your help :)
19:38 wizzyrea shoot
19:40 libsysguy jcamins_away: I think to clean those records I can just call the cleanbatch function from in a script with the batchid
19:40 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, that would make sense.
19:40 libsysguy there are over 200 so its worth my time to find out
19:40 libsysguy lol, thats a lot of clicking
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19:42 rangi libsysguy: you should test that new batch improvement thingy
19:43 rangi but not live :)
19:43 libsysguy is it pushed or needs signed off?
19:44 rangi needs signoff
19:44 rangi apparently makes it a zillion times faster
19:44 libsysguy bug 7486?
19:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7486 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED INVALID, empty columns (call number, barcode) on holds tab
19:44 libsysguy bug 7846**
19:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , get_batch_summary massive speedup
19:47 libsysguy jcamins_away: for the record the cleanup script only took off about 300 meg
19:47 libsysguy ill see what happens after i clean up all the imports
19:47 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, I didn't think you could have *that much* in the sessions table.
19:47 jcamins_away You would've noticed the slowdown if you did.
19:48 libsysguy well sessions are running on memcached now
19:48 libsysguy the cleanup script i wrote is taking awhile though
19:48 libsysguy maybe its deleting a bunch
19:48 * libsysguy hopes
19:55 oleonard Worst part of setting up a new Koha install: getting Zebra to work and getting holds to work
19:55 oleonard Why can't holds just work?!
19:55 * jcamins_away has often wondered that. But they sure don't.
19:55 oleonard The worst part is not getting any information about why you can't place holds
19:56 libsysguy holds don't work?
19:56 libsysguy out of the box
19:56 oleonard "No copies are available to be placed on hold" except for the copes which are available, I can see them right there
19:56 jcamins_away libsysguy: no, you never noticed that?
19:56 libsysguy no I haven't
19:56 libsysguy but then again I don't actually check out books
19:57 libsysguy i just torrent them
19:57 cait oleonard: maxreserves and a defaultdefaultdefault rule set?
19:57 oleonard Yes, both
20:00 cait hmm
20:02 wizzyrea independant branches?
20:02 oleonard No
20:03 wizzyrea hmm. MaxReserves?
20:03 wahanui MaxReserves is, like, very useful
20:03 libsysguy jcamins_away: cleaning up those imports reduced the db size to 1.6 gigs
20:03 libsysguy holy moly
20:03 jcamins_away Who called it?
20:03 jcamins_away :)
20:04 libsysguy jcamins_away is the man :p
20:04 libsysguy jcamins++
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20:09 cait wizzyrea++
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20:16 oleonard Bye #koha
20:16 Brooke cheers
20:16 Brooke Friday?
20:16 wahanui Friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
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20:34 * jcamins_away becomes really away instead of just _away
20:35 cait ooh
20:35 cait pizza?
20:35 wahanui i think pizza is in the oven.
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21:12 Topic for #koha is now Happy Friday NZ
21:22 Brooke @later tell Space_Librarian scandalous Mozart theme continues.
21:22 huginn Brooke: The operation succeeded.
21:27 * magnus_afk wishes #koha a good night
21:28 cait good night magnuse :)
21:28 cait good night #koha
21:28 cait :)
21:29 rangi night cait and magnus_away
21:29 magnus_away :-)
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21:43 libsysguy rangi did you see what I told jcamins_away about the database size?
21:43 libsysguy all the space was being hogged up my uncleaned imports….3.5 gig
21:44 rangi yeah, that'd do it
21:45 rangi yay!
21:45 rangi[…]tml-entities.html
21:46 libsysguy awesome
21:47 rangi might have to add that into xt/
22:05 rangi dpavlin++
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22:34 rangi !jenkins build Koha_Master now
22:34 jenkins_koha rangi: job Koha_Master build scheduled now
22:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #689 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #687 13 hr ago)
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23:07 melia question about notices
23:07 melia can I add <<items.content>> to the preduedgst instead of just the <<count>> of items due? or will that not work?
23:23 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
23:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #689: FIXED in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/689/
23:23 rangi not sure sorry melia
23:23 melia that's ok rangi. I'll just try it and see what happens. :)
23:23 libsysguy when things get checked in, it just calls AddReturn right?
23:23 rangi i think so libsysguy
23:24 libsysguy ok cool, thanks rangi
23:31 libsysguy rangi if you are around can you search cpan?
23:32 rangi for?
23:32 rangi or just in general
23:32 rangi
23:32 libsysguy in general
23:32 libsysguy yeah its showing up as down for me
23:32 rangi hmm works for me
23:32 libsysguy weird
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