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librarygeekadam |
good evening to everyone |
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librarygeekadam |
I have a quick question if anyone can be of assistance |
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librarygeekadam |
I just installed Koha 3.06.02 on a single Ubuntu laptop following the instructions on the community page |
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librarygeekadam |
i am editing "Item Types" |
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librarygeekadam |
I am not given the option to add Renewals |
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librarygeekadam |
How many times a patron can renew an item |
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librarygeekadam |
any ideas? |
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librarygeekadam |
perhaps another question...can i revert my Koha back to the web install parts? |
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cait |
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alex_a |
morning cait |
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cait |
morning alex_a :) |
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magnuse |
good morning cait, alex_a and #koha |
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cait |
good morning magnuse :) |
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cait |
is there any reason we use different xslt for displaying itemtype images in opac and staff? |
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magnuse |
no idea |
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alex_a |
goooood morniiiing magnuse |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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alex_a |
:) |
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cait |
heh |
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hi koha |
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cait |
hi marcelr :) |
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hi cait |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
a new paul_p_android incarnation :) |
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cait |
bonjour paul_p_android |
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paul_p_android |
hello world! |
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marcelr |
hi paul |
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cait__ |
waves |
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paul_p_android |
meetong with a future customer this morning... |
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cait |
good luck :) |
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magnuse |
yeah, good luck paul_p_android |
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cait |
work time - brb |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour! |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
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marcelr |
& reiveune |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
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paul_p_android |
marcelr. is there a chance that you come to the hackfest? |
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marcelr |
paul_p: i was still hoping, but i do not think so now ... |
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paul_p_android |
:-(( |
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marcelr |
too bad |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (8:20 AM CET on January 26, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -8.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
windy here today - reports of up to 38 meters/second this night and more to come today... |
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@wunder konstanz |
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cait___: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.4�C (8:54 AM CET on January 26, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
the newsletter says "Koha 3.6.3 is scheduled for release on 25 January 2012." wasn't that yesterday? |
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asaurat |
hi |
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cait___ |
translations |
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magnuse |
? |
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francharb |
morning |
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marcelr |
hi asaurat & francharb |
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kf |
back :) |
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rangi |
back |
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rangi |
marcelr: you had a question about caching? |
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marcelr |
yes, you saw bugzilla |
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marcelr |
? |
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rangi |
yup |
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marcelr |
pref is not used? |
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rangi |
the usecache syspref is used in another bug |
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rangi |
7243 |
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marcelr |
i will look there |
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rangi |
hmm or something liket hat |
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rangi |
ill find it for ya |
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marcelr |
must be another onbe |
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rangi |
bug 7249 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Report webservices |
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rangi |
thats it |
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marcelr |
ok |
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rangi |
the env stuff was added recently, after that patch was written |
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rangi |
im not sure i like it |
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marcelr |
no it adds another approach to prefs |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
7249 allows this |
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rangi |
http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]/svc/report?id=15 |
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rangi |
and this |
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rangi |
http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]/svc/report?id=13 |
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rangi |
which in turn allows you to do |
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rangi |
http://academy17.catalyst.net.[…]s/Koha/start.html |
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rangi |
with jquery |
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rangi |
(its what we had the highschool students doing) |
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marcelr |
ok |
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rangi |
</blather> |
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rangi |
also, 7248, (when its fixed) allows bug 7387 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes |
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magnuse |
is there some other development that clashes with this? |
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rangi |
hmm dont think so |
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magnuse |
ah, i misunderstood something earlier then - never mind |
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rangi |
marcelr: ill get chrisdothall to take a look at the bug tomorrow |
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marcelr |
good |
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rangi |
magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages <-- good write up |
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magnuse |
thanks, rangi - there's probably room for improvement, but it's a start |
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rangi |
yup |
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magnuse |
and hopefully lots of people will need something like that ;-) |
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rangi |
:) |
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fabio_t |
hi kohaphiles! :) |
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kf |
hi fabio_t |
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fabio_t |
hi there kf |
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kf |
hi asaurat1 |
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kf |
still having problems with the wifi? |
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asaurat1 |
hi kf ! no connection pb but I just had to move my laptop for a meeting =) |
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:) |
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Hi #koha |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536> |
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oleonard |
Hey, huginn` has been updated |
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kf_lunch |
hi oleonard - cool :) |
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kf_lunch |
gmcharlt++ |
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marcelr |
huginn was confused about 6536.. |
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o/ |
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\o |
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kf_lunch |
marcelr: why confused? |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: Quote #144: "library_systems_guy: (xslt) looks like html and lisp had an ugly baby." (added by wizzyrea at 08:48 PM, June 30, 2011) |
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marcelr |
kf: since 6536 changed back to assigned instead of needs signoff |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
druthb: Quote #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car" (added by brendan at 10:15 PM, November 16, 2009) |
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druthb |
lulz |
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oleonard |
So wait, huginn` isn't giving us the right message? |
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marcelr |
seems so |
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kf_lunch |
when I checked it was set to sign off |
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kf_lunch |
I mean needs sign-off |
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marcelr |
it was till i changed it to assigne |
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kf_lunch |
ah |
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kf_lunch |
hm |
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kf_lunch |
perhaps it gives us bugs leaving the needs sign-off status now instead of those entering it? |
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marcelr |
should status change be done there still |
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grumbles about the addition of a "supplierid" attribute to an HTML input tag |
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mbalmer |
hi, I have a printing question: as anybody used an EPSON T M-T88 receipt printer, connected serially to a Linux machine? |
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oleonard |
mbalmer: I've only ever used the T-1000 and I could never get it to talk to Linux. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:T-1000_002.png |
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mbalmer |
ok, I see. |
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oleonard |
;) |
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chris_n |
3.6.3 by noon est |
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chris_n |
so why is it that after completing a transfer the item status field still shows in transit? |
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hdl |
is updated when checked in |
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chris_n |
ie. http://oi39.tinypic.com/2mma4y8.jpg |
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chris_n |
hdl: so after completing the transfer it is also necessary to check in at the branch? |
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hdl |
yep |
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oleonard |
chris_n: What did you mean by "completing the transfer?" |
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hdl |
but you'd better ask paul_p_ |
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hdl |
this is what I experienced. |
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chris_n |
circ > transfer |
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chris_n |
when I attempt to check in, koha tells me its not checked out |
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chris_n |
perhaps some background will help |
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oleonard |
chris_n: check-in won't tell you that a transfer has been made, not if the book has arrived at its destination |
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chris_n |
one of our librarians check some books out while logged in under the wrong granch |
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chris_n |
branch eve |
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chris_n |
even |
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chris_n |
she later checked them in under the right branch |
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chris_n |
now each of those items shows an "in transfer" status, but they are listed in the correct location (see screenshot above) |
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chris_n |
feature or bug? |
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chris_n |
:) |
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oleonard |
Bug. Checking them in should have removed the transfer status |
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* chris_n |
wonders if this bug is in master |
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chris_n |
we're still running 3.2.x |
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chris_n |
I'll file a bug report in a few moments |
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chris_n |
I suppose I'll have to hack up some SQL to fix things in the db |
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chris_n |
tnx hdl, oleonard |
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hdl |
chris_n: no problem |
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mbalmer |
I found a CUPS driver for the â„¢-T88IV, but only for a different Linux distro |
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mbalmer |
no we use a windows 7 PC ;) |
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oleonard |
chris_n: I can't reproduce that in master. Checked out at Branch A, checked in a Branch B. |
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wizzyrea |
oh yea |
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wizzyrea |
that's a known thing - 2x checkins on transits = bad |
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wizzyrea |
there's a bug for it.... |
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wizzyrea |
bug 6226 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6226 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Returning a misrouted item twice causes transit to correct receiving library to disappear |
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* chris_n |
looks |
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wizzyrea |
I'd welcome a patch for that |
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wizzyrea |
NEKLS has a testing protocol for that one. |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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wizzyrea |
easy to sign of on from here. |
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wizzyrea |
s/of/off/ |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: is that the same as what I'm seeing? |
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chris_n |
ie |
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wizzyrea |
either way, receiving a transit twice often causes weirdness |
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chris_n |
check item out at branch a |
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chris_n |
return at branch b |
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wizzyrea |
I suspect it's a variant of this |
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chris_n |
and end up with things looking as they do in my screenshot above? |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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chris_n |
k |
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chris_n |
I'll add my notes to that bug them |
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chris_n |
along with the screamshot |
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chris_n |
oopps |
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chris_n |
screenshot |
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wizzyrea |
it either ends up with a stuck transit, or a transit that disappears and orphans the item at the wrong branch |
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oleonard |
I tried that: check item out a branch a, return at branch b... Couldn't reproduce in master. |
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wizzyrea |
hehe screamshot |
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wizzyrea |
is that on master chris_n? |
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wizzyrea |
i admit I haven't tried to reproduce that on master recently |
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wizzyrea |
but we see the "double checkin does weird stuff" thing even now on 3.6.0 |
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wizzyrea |
(for transits) |
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chris_n |
no, 3.2.x |
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wizzyrea |
ah then yea |
15:14 |
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wizzyrea |
that bug and it's variants would be in full force. :P |
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* chris_n |
feels like doing a screamshot sometimes ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
sometimes checking out and checking in the item clears the transit - sometimes. |
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chris_n |
I'll try that |
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wizzyrea |
this bug is the reason that nekls wants a "check status" that's separate from the check in box. |
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wizzyrea |
rangi and I talked about that - the catalog would work fine for that if you could just scan a barcode and bring back exactly the item you were looking for. |
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wizzyrea |
we talked about a tickbox for "exact search" |
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wizzyrea |
in the staff client catalog |
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wizzyrea |
oh, and good morning. |
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chris_n |
interesting |
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wizzyrea |
right now our librarians often want to quickly check an item, but scanning in the barcode to search doesn't bring back the item they're looking for |
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wizzyrea |
so they use the checkin |
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chris_n |
I just checked the item out at branch b and then in at branch a and the status corrected itself |
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wizzyrea |
WOO! |
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wizzyrea |
nice :) |
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chris_n |
what a lot of work to do |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
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chris_n |
probably a dozen or more items are wrong :P |
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wizzyrea |
oh yuck. |
15:18 |
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chris_n |
bug_fixing++ |
15:18 |
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chris_n |
I'll add this case to the bug |
15:18 |
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chris_n |
right after releasing 3.6.3, though ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
15:19 |
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chris_n |
chrome application short cuts are very slick and extremely useful for anyone interested |
15:19 |
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chris_n |
they allow you to run multiple independent log-ins to koha under the same user account |
15:20 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* did you happen to get kiosk mode working with silent printing? |
15:20 |
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chris_n |
w/o the chocolate chip cookies getting mixed up with the sugar cookies |
15:20 |
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wizzyrea |
mmm cookies. |
15:20 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: hmm.... not yet |
15:20 |
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wizzyrea |
ah is no biggie |
15:20 |
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wizzyrea |
that's something I should probably look at |
15:20 |
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wizzyrea |
the firefox update thing is really irritating |
15:20 |
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chris_n |
koha looks very slick inside an application-style window, though |
15:21 |
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wizzyrea |
it nukes our printer settings and header/footer settings for receipts every time it updates |
15:21 |
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wizzyrea |
and it updates like, every month. |
15:21 |
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chris_n |
eekkk |
15:21 |
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wizzyrea |
i'd switch us to chrome in a heartbeat |
15:23 |
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wizzyrea |
if only we could get kiosk silent printing :) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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druthb |
hi, magnus! |
15:29 |
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magnuse |
howdy druthb |
15:30 |
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oleonard |
Leave it to Internet Explorer to take a perfectly valid page and screw up the rendering |
15:30 |
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oleonard |
IE-- |
15:30 |
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oleonard |
and IE 8 no less. |
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* oleonard |
wants that browser to die completely, no new version, nothing |
15:34 |
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magnuse |
hear, hear |
15:34 |
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* chris_n |
runs a final pass of the test suite before rolling up 3.6.3 |
15:34 |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
15:34 |
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chris_n |
and we're go for lift-off |
15:37 |
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magnuse |
chris_n++ |
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magnuse |
chris_n: i hope you will be able to include norwegian bokm�l in the list of "Complete or near-complete translations" for 3.6.4 :-) |
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chris_n |
that would be great |
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chris_n |
3.6.3 rolling up as you read this <--- |
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hdl |
congrats chris_n |
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magnuse |
yeah, hooray for chris_n! |
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oleonard |
chris_n++ |
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chris_n |
and you may now get it @download.kc.org |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n++ |
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chris_n |
now to crow about it a bit :) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #32 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: FIXED) |
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chris_n |
done deal |
15:51 |
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* wizzyrea |
throws confetti |
15:51 |
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chris_n |
mega bug fixes |
15:51 |
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* wizzyrea |
puts out an array of hot, cold, bubbly, and not bubbly drinks for everyone to enjoy |
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maximep |
haha |
15:52 |
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oleonard |
Aw man, I only drink lukewarm slightly-bubbly drinks |
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* wizzyrea |
gets room temperature, 30 minute old ginger ale for oleonard |
15:53 |
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druthb |
>.< |
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druthb |
ewwwww |
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maximep |
wizzyrea++ for making me laugh on this very bad morning |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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chris_n |
3.4.8 on saturday |
15:58 |
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wizzyrea |
I'm always glad to hadn out laughs. |
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wizzyrea |
squee! |
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chris_n |
3.4.8 will have mega bugfixes too |
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chris_n |
that will be a hard branch to kill |
15:59 |
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* chris_n |
should use the more gentle "lay to rest" |
15:59 |
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wizzyrea |
I think we're pretty generous in supporting 2 major releases back. |
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wizzyrea |
hdl is wise. |
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* magnuse |
starts building his packages from 3.6.3 |
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rangi |
the problem with 3.4.x isnt that it's ill, it's that it is very solid |
16:03 |
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rangi |
if it had problems, end of life would be an easy choice :) |
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chris_n |
exactly |
16:05 |
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rangi |
stats out for 3.6.3, 3 patches from academy students, 2 from jransoms son connor (who is 14 .. our youngest committer yet I think) |
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hdl |
is 3.6 the one ill then ? |
16:05 |
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chris_n |
and barring any serious changes, it will probably stay that wy |
16:05 |
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chris_n |
way, even |
16:05 |
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rangi |
3.6.x is solid too |
16:06 |
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rangi |
http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]istics-for-3-6-3/ |
16:07 |
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* magnuse |
is a little bit worried by bug 7445 and has applied a quick-and-dirty patch for it, but has otherwise not had any complaints about 3.6.x |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist" |
16:08 |
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rangi |
magnuse: language picker so should be a TT plugin :) |
16:08 |
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rangi |
cached using TT caching too |
16:08 |
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oleonard |
sekjal wants everything in a matrix, rangi wants everything in a TT plugin |
16:08 |
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magnuse |
huh? i don't think this is related to the language picker |
16:09 |
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magnuse |
so a matrix of tt plugins = bliss |
16:09 |
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rangi |
nope, it just reminded me |
16:09 |
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magnuse |
ah, ok, i'm less confused then ;-) |
16:10 |
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rangi |
ok, the wind seems to have finally quietened down, going back to sleep |
16:11 |
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magnuse |
ah, thaought it was a tad early for rangi... |
16:21 |
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chris_n |
wizzyrea: updated bug 6226 |
16:21 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6226 major, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Returning a misrouted item twice causes transit to correct receiving library to disappear |
16:25 |
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wizzyrea |
chris_n++ thx |
16:25 |
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magnuse |
gah, first attempt at building packages was tripped up by tests failing on database dependent tests - t/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t and t/Reports.t |
16:26 |
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wizzyrea |
hm what do they need |
16:26 |
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magnuse |
i'm just getting "Can't connect to local MySQL server" |
16:26 |
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wizzyrea |
bleh |
16:27 |
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magnuse |
'cause you shouldn't need mysql to build the packages |
16:27 |
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magnuse |
i think rangi said they could/should be moved to the dir for the db-dependent tests... |
16:28 |
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* magnuse |
rips them out and tries again and wanders off to make dinner |
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16:28 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.6.x build #32: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/32/ |
16:28 |
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jenkins_koha |
* f.demians: Version 3.6.3 Strings Update |
16:28 |
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jenkins_koha |
* chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.03.000 26 Jan 2012 15:06:56 Z |
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* wizzyrea |
throws more confetti, and adds a disco ball |
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kf_mtg |
whoohoo |
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wizzyrea |
oo it looks like 7001 is going to require some updates to the tests. |
16:41 |
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wizzyrea |
possibly. |
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* wizzyrea |
just set up the pre-commit git hooks. very informative. |
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* oleonard |
supposes he should have a pre-comit hook which checks template and translator validity |
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reiveune |
bye |
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16:55 |
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kf_mtg |
chris_n++ |
16:56 |
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chris_n |
off to lunch |
16:56 |
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wizzyrea |
that is a lunch well deserved. |
16:56 |
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oleonard |
Bring a fine feast for the release maintainer! |
16:57 |
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* oleonard |
looks around for the servants |
16:57 |
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kf_mtg |
:) |
17:00 |
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kf_mtg |
oleonard++ |
17:00 |
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kf_mtg |
will try to test asap |
17:00 |
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wizzyrea |
druthb++ |
17:00 |
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kf_mtg |
druthb++ :) |
17:00 |
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kf_mtg |
for what this time |
17:00 |
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kf_mtg |
? |
17:00 |
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wizzyrea |
for finding the cause of an especially insidious problem |
17:00 |
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kf_mtg |
yep, that sounds like her |
17:01 |
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wizzyrea |
i kno rite?! |
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* druthb |
blushes |
17:02 |
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kf_mtg |
:) |
17:03 |
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druthb |
I'll have a maintenance script that helps with one of the problems in Bug 3069 out as a patch here in an hour or so. Worked a treat on one of our sites. |
17:03 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3069 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha Z39.50 client process discussion |
17:05 |
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wizzyrea |
well and clearing the reservoir has always been a task that support companies do |
17:05 |
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trea |
so, we need a clean reservoir cronjob? |
17:05 |
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wizzyrea |
well yea |
17:06 |
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trea |
in /etc/cron.monthly |
17:06 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
17:06 |
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wizzyrea |
this |
17:06 |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt! |
17:06 |
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trea |
gmcharlt: o/ |
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hdl |
gmcharlt: :D |
17:06 |
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gmcharlt |
seriously, such a cronjob would be handy, with a couple cavets |
17:07 |
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gmcharlt |
first, since it's used both to cache Z39.50 search results *and* import batches |
17:07 |
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gmcharlt |
the cronjob should distinguish |
17:07 |
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kf_mtg |
I agree |
17:07 |
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gmcharlt |
not that one can't delete import batches, but not willy-nilly, since a batch has to be present in order to do a revert |
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kf_mtg |
I don't want it to touch our regular imports, only z3950 |
17:07 |
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kf_mtg |
but I think the information is in the database |
17:07 |
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druthb |
In this case, my script did not distinguish, but the partner site had not done any cleans since 2009, so it needed doing Real Real Bad. I put in a date param, and it cleans everything before then. |
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17:09 |
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wizzyrea |
also a UI spot to "purge z39.50 batches" |
17:09 |
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gmcharlt |
secondly, I'm curious about use cases for the reservoir itself -- are there any advantages to keeping it (as more than just a very short-lived cache) when one could just requery the Z39.50 server? |
17:09 |
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druthb |
Easy enough to parameterize letting you choose batch, z, or both, and a "keep this many days" param. |
17:09 |
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druthb |
Then it'd be cronnable. |
17:10 |
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gmcharlt |
druthb: maybe add a locked column for import batches? |
17:10 |
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wizzyrea |
I do like the idea of getting away from the idea of a cache for z results though |
17:10 |
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druthb |
"Don't delet this one, no matter what?" |
17:10 |
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gmcharlt |
druthb: exactly |
17:10 |
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wizzyrea |
there must have been a reason for that at some point? |
17:11 |
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druthb |
gmcharlt: I like the idea, but that'd be a v.next enhance. I'm in KISS mode right now. |
17:11 |
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gmcharlt |
fair enough |
17:11 |
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druthb |
wizzyrea: persistence...as in, Koha Doesn't Have It. Gotta store that data *somewhere*, and just like the sessions table, knowing when to drop it is Kinda Hard. |
17:11 |
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gmcharlt |
but in that case, purging import batches shouldn't be a default option, just z |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: and possibly as a limiting mechanism to avoid pushing too hard on slow/creaky/remote Z39.50 servers? |
17:12 |
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druthb |
gmcharlt: The way I write scripts, the default is don't do *anything*. I'm paranoid. |
17:12 |
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gmcharlt |
druthb: cool, then I won't be out to get you |
17:12 |
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gmcharlt |
(or will I?) |
17:12 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
17:13 |
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trea |
dun dun dunnnnn |
17:13 |
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wizzyrea |
limit how many you keep at all? |
17:13 |
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druthb |
You'll *have* to specify either -b, -z, or both, (as well as --update) or nothing at all will happen. |
17:14 |
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kf_mtg |
bye all |
17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
byeeee |
17:14 |
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* oleonard |
managed to crash IE after not too long a wait |
17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
oh good I was starting to worry |
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druthb |
hm. gmcharlt's little enchancement will delay the patch a little, as I have other fish to fry. Should get it out tonight, tho. |
17:16 |
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* druthb |
finds a way to blame gmcharlt for all sorts of things. |
17:17 |
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druthb |
Delayed patches, the housing bust, global warming...it's all gmcharlt's fault. |
17:17 |
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* gmcharlt |
promises to turn off the lights more regularly |
17:18 |
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trea |
:D |
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oleonard |
It's gmcharlt's fault I can't stop thinking about cats |
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paul_p_ |
OK, time to leave for me. Lyon 3 university is live with Koha 3.6, everything is OK, except a problem/glitch with their 3M self-checkout. I hope to be back to RM business tomorrow morning... |
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wizzyrea |
I love cats. I love every kind of cats. |
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oleonard |
Does the entire world of Inernet Explorer-using people just assume the whole web looks like crap? |
17:44 |
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wizzyrea |
that could explain some things. |
17:50 |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: low expectations can become self-sustaining |
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* wizzyrea |
starts a campaign "the web doesn't have to suck - try a different browser" |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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wizzyrea |
wb cait |
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cait |
:) |
17:58 |
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maximep |
i'm sure people using ie6 and ie7 know that everything looks like crap and it only gets worst |
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maximep |
the entire quebec governement is still using ie6... pure madness |
17:58 |
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oleonard |
The awful things I'm seeing in IE8 convince me that it just doesn't get better |
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maximep |
oh common, ie8 is easy to support |
18:00 |
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maximep |
compared to ie6 and 7 |
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maximep |
ie9 is probably also very hard because it's too good |
18:01 |
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maximep |
-_- |
18:01 |
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* maximep |
is glad he isn't doing that job |
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cait |
wizzyrea: I have a queston for you |
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cait |
or a general question where I hope wizzyrea has an opinion :) |
18:05 |
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cait |
the itemtype display in result list and detail page are different |
18:05 |
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cait |
the detail page shows less information than the result list |
18:05 |
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cait |
is there any reason for that? |
18:05 |
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cait |
and do we want to keep it like that? |
18:05 |
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cait |
talking about the small icons |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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rangi |
Morning |
18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
cait - screenshot? please? |
18:40 |
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cait |
hey, good morning rangi |
18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
i suspect that I don't have itemtype images defined or on |
18:40 |
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cait |
oh |
18:40 |
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cait |
you can see at hfjs.bsz-bw.de |
18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
even better :) |
18:43 |
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cait |
there are 2 icons |
18:43 |
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cait |
on the results list |
18:43 |
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wizzyrea |
cait you mean the "format, literary form display |
18:43 |
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cait |
but only one on the detail |
18:43 |
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cait |
yep that |
18:44 |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
18:44 |
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wizzyrea |
I don't see it in english... switching to deutsch |
18:44 |
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cait |
hmm |
18:44 |
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cait |
give me a minute |
18:44 |
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cait |
so I don't burn my soup |
18:45 |
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cait |
and when it's simmering I will look for links |
18:45 |
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wizzyrea |
I don't see it in deutsch either |
18:45 |
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wizzyrea |
screencast is broken atm |
18:45 |
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cait |
perhaps I turned it off there... hmmm |
18:45 |
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cait |
I will find examples |
18:45 |
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wizzyrea |
no I just only see one icon |
18:46 |
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wizzyrea |
so I may not be clear on what you're asking |
18:46 |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/2I1rMOAZ |
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wizzyrea |
hey that keyboard thing you have is pretty wicked. |
18:47 |
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aarkerio |
hi! somebody knows a Webpage about how import journal articles in koha? |
18:48 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: thx :) |
18:48 |
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cait |
I put a howto on the wiki for the keyboard |
18:49 |
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aarkerio |
I found this: |
18:49 |
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aarkerio |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ruary/017032.html |
18:51 |
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cait |
wizzyrea: seems there is a difference between 3.2.2 and 3.6.3 |
18:51 |
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wizzyrea |
ah |
18:51 |
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cait |
but |
18:51 |
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cait |
the second part is missing |
18:51 |
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cait |
from the detai lpage |
18:51 |
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cait |
say we have something like |
18:51 |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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cait |
Type: Continuing Resource; Format: print ; Type of continuing resource: series |
18:51 |
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cait |
in result list |
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cait |
but only type: series |
18:52 |
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cait |
in detail |
18:52 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I did notice that |
18:52 |
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cait |
and on 3.6.3 I had sometmes 2 items showing in the result list |
18:52 |
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cait |
but only always one |
18:52 |
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cait |
on detail |
18:52 |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder if there's some logic there that shows both biblevel and itemlevel itype that isn't working? |
18:52 |
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wizzyrea |
maybe a TT thing? |
18:53 |
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wizzyrea |
but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense - which item would it pull the item level itemtype from |
18:53 |
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wizzyrea |
so no, probably not that. |
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cait |
nope |
18:56 |
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cait |
it's all from the record |
18:56 |
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cait |
leader, 007, 008 |
18:56 |
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cait |
it's supposed to show you what it is |
18:56 |
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cait |
I have a bug report form one of our libraries |
18:57 |
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wizzyrea |
huh. weird. |
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cait |
complainging about a book when there should be a cd |
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cait |
so I started looking into it |
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cait |
and I think it sould be in utils |
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cait |
or somewhere |
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cait |
and I think we do it differently for opac and staff... but have to confirm that |
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rangi |
TT filter! |
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cait |
xslt |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
once you have your xslt filter done.... |
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cait |
perhaps? ;) |
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rangi |
U can finish it st hackfest |
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rangi |
at even |
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rangi |
Hmm someone sent release notes to Marshall? |
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rangi |
My stop bbiab |
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cait |
wizzyrea: never mind, I will dive into it and come back with better questions :) |
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wizzyrea |
ah it's np |
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oleonard |
"Item 33000000087725 waiting at Athens hasn't been transferred yet from The Plains" |
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oleonard |
How exactly...? |
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wizzyrea |
hah |
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rangi |
back |
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wizzyrea |
i don't think I've ever seen the message "hasn't been transferred yet" |
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oleonard |
That's on the holds tab on circulation.pl |
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wizzyrea |
h |
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wizzyrea |
m |
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oleonard |
detail.pl says "Current location: The Plains; Status: Waiting for X at Athens" |
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wizzyrea |
ooo yea |
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wizzyrea |
sounds like a botched transfer. |
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wizzyrea |
i have seen that |
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wizzyrea |
a checkout/in should clear that |
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wizzyrea |
what version? |
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oleonard |
But I don't even know where the item is... I'm assuming actually in transit between The Plains and Athens |
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wizzyrea |
well it had to have arrived in athens to be marked waiting |
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oleonard |
3.6.1 |
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oleonard |
...except they say it's not there. |
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oleonard |
(of course they could be wrong) |
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wizzyrea |
I have heard this story before |
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wizzyrea |
all branches should shelf check for it |
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wizzyrea |
:/ |
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wizzyrea |
i am trying to remember |
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oleonard |
Maybe Koha needs some kind of "all branches shelf check" management system... |
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wizzyrea |
select * from branchtransfers where itemnumber = x - you should see an un completed transfer |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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wizzyrea |
we call that the "cattle prod" |
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wizzyrea |
but in the reserves table |
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wizzyrea |
the same reserve will be marked W |
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wizzyrea |
in theory you should never have a w and an uncompleted transfer, unless the item got misrouted along the way |
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oleonard |
2010-08-10 19:21:32 | PPL | 2010-08-12 17:49:34 | APL |
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wizzyrea |
whoa... |
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wizzyrea |
there's only the one |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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wizzyrea |
and it's completed? |
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oleonard |
That's datesent | frombranch | datearrived | tobranch |
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wizzyrea |
oh I wonder, did something happen to the item in between? like, it was moved from one bib to another |
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wizzyrea |
:) I know :) |
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oleonard |
reserves does say W |
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wizzyrea |
is the bibnumber the same on both? |
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wizzyrea |
I guess branchtransfers doesn't tell you |
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wizzyrea |
it only works with items. |
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oleonard |
right |
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wizzyrea |
i saw one a week or so ago |
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oleonard |
but we don't move items from one bib to another |
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wizzyrea |
where there was a really bizarre status sort of like that |
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wizzyrea |
not even in the case of "I accidentally added this duplicate bib" |
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wizzyrea |
"let me move it's items to the right one" |
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wizzyrea |
its* |
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wizzyrea |
(this happens in nexpress all the time) |
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* oleonard |
gets out the cattle prod |
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aarkerio |
what kind of format is this: |
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aarkerio |
http://www.pakban.net/brooke/t[…]sm/getcan8_sm.gif |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea! Long time no see. |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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oleonard |
Search engines don't like it when you try a search like $("[ |
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wizzyrea |
i sincerely wish my testers would get to work on 7001 - I'd like to have my test server back. |
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* oleonard |
set out to try Bug 7452, ended up spending hours fixing XHTML and dealing with other IE bugs... |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7452 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC unable to delete list item in IE |
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wizzyrea |
oof |
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wizzyrea |
thanks for looking at that oleonard |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard++ |
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maximep |
isn't that a javascript error ? |
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oleonard |
Hahaha, I win! The patch I submitted for all the XHTML and display errors actually fixes Bug 7452! |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
:D:D |
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maximep |
o_O |
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oleonard |
The OPAC lists page had <form>s nested inside a <form> |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
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maximep |
Ô_ô |
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oleonard |
...but the nested <form>s were not really necessary, since the inputs are only used by JavaScript |
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wizzyrea |
ლ(ಠ_ಠლ) |
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maximep |
well that shows up as squares here :p |
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wizzyrea |
all of it? |
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wizzyrea |
there *are* in fact 2 squares. |
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maximep |
I see 4 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
â—”_â—” |
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wizzyrea |
what about that one |
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maximep |
some kind of small _ ? |
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wizzyrea |
hehe fair enough |
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wizzyrea |
it's an eyerolly thing |
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wizzyrea |
sincerely not important |
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oleonard |
http://screencast.com/t/gl4L1TZaap |
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maximep |
I should be in utf-8 :S |
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maximep |
LOL |
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wizzyrea |
yesssssss |
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maximep |
nice |
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wizzyrea |
hm i wonder why tuesday is always the high point of the week for our OPAC |
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wizzyrea |
monday is the worst day |
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maximep |
what's the definition of worst and best ?< |
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wizzyrea |
http://screencast.com/t/3ooChtXlNV |
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wizzyrea |
least visitors, most visitors |
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wizzyrea |
oh sorry sunday is the worst day |
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maximep |
weird. Id be curious to see our stats, but I can't |
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wizzyrea |
i suspect we have the most libraries open on tuesday maybe? |
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oleonard |
Our graph looks the same. Our biggest branch is closed Mondays. |
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schuster |
are you using google analytics? |
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wizzyrea |
no |
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schuster |
What ya using? |
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wizzyrea |
piwik |
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schuster |
ah I was looking at that the other day... |
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schuster |
One more thing... :) |
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maximep |
is piwik.org down ? |
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wizzyrea |
it's very slow anyway |
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schuster |
but you get stats are they helpful? We have some specific pages and so I was thinking about tracking those to see how much they are actually used. |
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wizzyrea |
yes, I think they are helpful |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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rangi |
cya oleonard |
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schuster |
by all |
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cu |
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rangi |
cya schuster |
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