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jcamins_away |
rangi: any idea why MARC::Record uses expat? |
| 00:38 |
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rangi |
hmm I think it uses whatever the xml parser is |
| 00:39 |
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rangi |
you could try messing with parserdetails.ini |
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rangi |
try libxml::xml instead or something |
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jcamins_away |
That's what I would've thought, but it looks like we're wrong. |
| 00:39 |
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rangi |
maybe you can tell it what to use |
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jcamins_away |
The configured parser is LibXML, and it's using that, but it also uses Expat, which is incredibly slow in comparison. |
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rangi |
its marc::file::xml eh? |
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* rangi |
is on phone so can't look |
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jcamins_away |
I'll poke around. |
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jcamins_away |
I was just hoping you knew off the top of your head. :) |
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jcamins_away |
Wow. We use every single parser module. |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
I suspect you can tell it what to use somehow |
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jcamins_away |
According to cfouts, expat is faster anyway. |
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rangi |
expat_xs maybe |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, right. They're different. Good point. |
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rangi |
xs means its a wrapper for compiled c binaries |
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druthb |
o/ |
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jcamins_away |
@later tell rangi In case you were wondering, ZOOM doesn't store IDs. |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
hey trea and cait |
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trea |
hey rangi |
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cait |
hi rangi :) hi trea |
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trea |
hi cait |
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rangi |
ur up late trea |
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trea |
yea, just noodlin around |
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* rangi |
has to head off in aminute to buy some groceries |
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cait |
don't forget the cookies :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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* rangi |
will bbiab |
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rangi |
back |
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cait |
wb rangi |
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bag |
hey there rangi and cait |
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cait |
heya bag |
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bag |
alright I'm off to bed |
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bag |
:D |
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rangi |
sleep well |
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magnus_afk is now known as magnuse |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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magnuse |
bbl |
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magnuse |
nick magnus_afk |
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cait |
hi magnuse :) |
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rangi |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya cait and rangi |
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druthb |
o/ |
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druthb |
\o |
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druthb |
\o/ |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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jcamins_away |
o/ |
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jcamins_away is now known as jcamins |
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* druthb |
is bringing another quarter-million library patrons into the world of being served by a Koha-powered library. :) |
| 12:01 |
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* magnuse |
is wowed |
| 12:02 |
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magnuse |
lucky quarter-million! |
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druthb |
:) |
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jcamins |
Well, eww. Zebra has some major issues, doesn't it? |
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magnuse |
it has been rumoured... |
| 12:04 |
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druthb |
wahanui: druthb? |
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wahanui |
She finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
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* druthb |
nods. |
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magnuse |
oops? |
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druthb |
hm. |
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druthb |
wahanui: magnuse? |
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wahanui |
magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
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* druthb |
giggles. |
| 12:08 |
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druthb |
wahanui: Brooke? |
| 12:08 |
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wahanui |
I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. or a ratbag. |
| 12:08 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 12:08 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -7.0�C (1:00 PM CET on January 07, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Pressure: 29.45 in 997 hPa (Falling). |
| 12:08 |
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druthb |
cait? |
| 12:08 |
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wahanui |
That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) |
| 12:08 |
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cait |
heya |
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druthb |
@wunder lawrence, ks |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 0.9�C (6:08 AM CST on January 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:09 |
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magnuse |
guten tag cait |
| 12:09 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 12:09 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0�C (1:00 PM CET on January 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). |
| 12:09 |
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druthb |
guten tag, cait. :) *hug* |
| 12:09 |
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magnuse |
+2 and light snow = slush ? |
| 12:09 |
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cait |
it melts when hitting the grond |
| 12:09 |
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cait |
ground |
| 12:10 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 12:12 |
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jcamins |
Welp, looks like using mod_perl with Zebra Might Not Be A Good Idea. |
| 12:13 |
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cait |
perhaps it's not zebra |
| 12:13 |
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cait |
but how we use it? |
| 12:13 |
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cait |
and hi jared |
| 12:13 |
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jcamins |
Alas, this is Zebra. |
| 12:14 |
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magnuse |
ouch? |
| 12:15 |
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magnuse |
would it be the same for plack? i don't know either of them... |
| 12:15 |
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pastebot |
"jcamins" at 98.14.120.176 pasted "Yikes! This is NOT O(n)" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/192 |
| 12:16 |
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jcamins |
The important bits are columns 1 and 4. |
| 12:17 |
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jcamins |
For 5k routines, Net::Z3950::ZOOM::event took 32735 seconds to run 95441 times. For 1k records, 71.1s to run 19181 times. |
| 12:19 |
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magnuse |
32735s is quite a long time... |
| 12:19 |
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jcamins |
It is. |
| 12:19 |
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jcamins |
It is *100* times as long per call. |
| 12:19 |
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magnuse |
what kind of operation are you profiling there? |
| 12:20 |
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jcamins |
I am currently telling myself "surely there's something I can do to make it happy." |
| 12:20 |
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jcamins |
link_bibs_to_authorities.pl. |
| 12:23 |
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magnuse |
ah, and you are running that with mod_perl? |
| 12:23 |
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jcamins |
Nope, running it from the command line. |
| 12:24 |
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magnuse |
ah, so where does mod_perl come into it? |
| 12:24 |
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* magnuse |
is confused |
| 12:24 |
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jcamins |
With CGI, Zebra connections are short-lived. |
| 12:24 |
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jcamins |
With mod_perl, not so much. |
| 12:26 |
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jcamins |
It's unfortunate that I can't check whether my changes help quickly. |
| 12:29 |
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jcamins |
To be clear, the problem is not Zebra, it's the Perl interface to it. |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
| 12:31 |
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jcamins |
Wait, maybe I didn't solve it. |
| 12:32 |
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jcamins |
Drat. |
| 12:32 |
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* magnuse |
knows the feeling ;-) |
| 12:32 |
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* druthb |
enjoys watching jcamins sometimes. |
| 12:33 |
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jcamins |
Hrm. Microseconds are smaller than milliseconds. |
| 12:33 |
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jcamins |
This is good. |
| 12:33 |
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druthb |
lol |
| 12:33 |
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cait |
heh |
| 12:33 |
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cait |
:) |
| 12:33 |
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magnuse |
yay |
| 12:33 |
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jcamins |
Wait... |
| 12:33 |
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* jcamins |
does some math. |
| 12:33 |
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jcamins |
14.6s < 71.1s. |
| 12:34 |
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jcamins |
Ladies and germs, we have solved the problem! |
| 12:34 |
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druthb |
yes, yes it is. |
| 12:34 |
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magnuse |
woohoo! |
| 12:34 |
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cait |
woohoo |
| 12:34 |
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druthb |
"we." You and Myshkin? |
| 12:35 |
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jcamins |
Actually, Myshkin has abandoned me to cuddle with Shari. |
| 12:35 |
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jcamins |
He doesn't like Zebras. |
| 12:35 |
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druthb |
At this hour on a Saturday morning...he's trying to set an example for you. |
| 12:35 |
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jcamins |
The problem, in case you were wondering, is that you have to destroy your Zebra recordSets when you're done with them. |
| 12:36 |
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cait |
destroy! |
| 12:36 |
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cait |
sounds radical :) |
| 12:36 |
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* magnuse |
hums "anarchy in the uk" |
| 12:36 |
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jcamins |
I didn't recognize that was the issue at first because we already had the destroy command. |
| 12:36 |
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jcamins |
But it was commented out. |
| 12:36 |
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jcamins |
Whoops. |
| 12:38 |
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cait |
so zebra is not so bad? ;) |
| 12:38 |
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jcamins |
No, thank goodness. |
| 12:39 |
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fredericd |
jcamins: what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 12:39 |
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* druthb |
finishes loading 400K+ bibs and the quarter-million patrons, and runs some touch-up scripts. |
| 12:40 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl on 167k records. |
| 12:40 |
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jcamins |
Without dying of boredom. |
| 12:40 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 12:40 |
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cait |
how long does it take now? |
| 12:40 |
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cait |
I think you began with an hour? |
| 12:40 |
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jcamins |
Being impatient, that last is problematic. |
| 12:40 |
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jcamins |
cait: well, 3k records just took... 308s. |
| 12:40 |
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jcamins |
cait: previously 5k records took... |
| 12:41 |
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jcamins |
33238s. |
| 12:41 |
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cait |
oh |
| 12:41 |
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cait |
so it should be faster now :) |
| 12:41 |
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jcamins |
No typo there. |
| 12:41 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 12:41 |
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fredericd |
what have you modified? |
| 12:42 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: for the performance change I just uncommented the oAResultSet->destroy(). |
| 12:42 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: more generally, I completely rewrote all the linking code. |
| 12:43 |
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fredericd |
intersting... |
| 12:43 |
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jcamins |
Bug 7284 |
| 12:43 |
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wahanui |
Bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. |
| 12:43 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 12:44 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: interesting things? Yes indeed. |
| 12:44 |
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wahanui |
jcamins: excuse me? |
| 12:45 |
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* jcamins |
has another idea for optimization. |
| 12:46 |
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cait |
heh |
| 12:46 |
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cait |
go jcamins go |
| 12:47 |
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jcamins |
I'll profile 10k, then try my modification. |
| 12:52 |
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magnuse |
bbl |
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druthb |
Namaskar, kmkale! |
| 12:59 |
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kmkale |
Namaste druthb :-D |
| 12:59 |
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kmkale |
LTNC |
| 13:00 |
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druthb |
Indeed. It's been a briskly busy fall for me, so I haven't been on here much. |
| 13:00 |
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jcamins |
I should make BiblioAddsAuthorities use the new working linking. |
| 13:01 |
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kmkale |
Namaste jcamins :) |
| 13:01 |
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jcamins |
Namaste, kmkale. |
| 13:09 |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! MySQL now takes more time than Zebra! |
| 13:20 |
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cait |
um yay? :) |
| 13:20 |
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jcamins |
cait: yes, that's good. |
| 13:21 |
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jcamins |
I mean, the fact that updating a record is hugely inefficient is bad, but it's progress. |
| 13:21 |
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| 13:22 |
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fredericd |
jcamins: is your code somewhere? |
| 13:23 |
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fredericd |
patch for bug 6990 could help |
| 13:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6990 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , TransformKohaToMarc enhancement |
| 13:23 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: https://github.com/jcamins/koha/commits/bug_7284 |
| 13:23 |
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jcamins |
Cool! |
| 13:23 |
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jcamins |
That's exactly what I was just thinking we needed! |
| 13:24 |
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jcamins |
fredericd++ |
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* jcamins |
may add an additional sign-off on that. |
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fredericd |
jcamins: A C4::Heading::UNIMARC class is required... |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: we've never had one in the past. |
| 13:26 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: I'll add a simple one, though. |
| 13:27 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: but that means someone will have to test it. :P |
| 13:27 |
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jcamins |
fredericd++ # for volunteering to test linking with UNIMARC. |
| 13:27 |
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jcamins |
:P |
| 13:27 |
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fredericd |
I don't say no :-) |
| 13:31 |
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jcamins |
What does TransformHtmlToMarc do? |
| 13:31 |
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jcamins |
It returns a MARC::Record object... |
| 13:31 |
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jcamins |
right? |
| 13:31 |
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jcamins |
Seems to. |
| 13:32 |
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| 13:34 |
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fredericd |
jcamins: I got your branch. Could you rebase it to HEAD? It would help tracking your modifications. |
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| 13:37 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: I'll rebase when I'm done. |
| 13:37 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: it is based on head as of two days ago. |
| 13:38 |
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jcamins |
I can't push branches after rebasing. |
| 13:40 |
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jcamins |
(I guess that's the disadvantage of frequent upstream changes... it makes sharing repositories difficult) |
| 13:43 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: what if I used a different branch? |
| 13:43 |
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jcamins |
That should work... right? |
| 13:44 |
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fredericd |
Yes. You could have a branch bug_7284_v2 for example |
| 13:45 |
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fredericd |
But I don't need it anymore |
| 13:45 |
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fredericd |
I was trying to figure out you modification |
| 13:45 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: does it make sense? |
| 13:46 |
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fredericd |
I can with git diff jcamins/master, where jcamins is the name of your remote repo |
| 13:46 |
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jcamins |
Ah. Cool! I didn't know that. |
| 13:46 |
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jcamins |
The "master" branch on there is spectacularly out of date. |
| 13:46 |
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jcamins |
GitHub won't let me push to it anymore. |
| 13:47 |
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jcamins |
I guess I should figure out why and fix that at some point. |
| 13:47 |
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fredericd |
you can do a git merge |
| 13:48 |
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fredericd |
I can't test your patch without having a C4::Heading::UNIMARC class! |
| 13:48 |
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jcamins |
I will add one. :) |
| 13:48 |
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fredericd |
and I don't like that much how C4::Heading::MARC21 hard code authorities definitions... |
| 13:50 |
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jcamins |
It's certainly not ideal, but it's been in Koha for years, so it can stay a bit longer. |
| 13:50 |
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jcamins |
I've been thinking of making it use the framework, though. |
| 13:51 |
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jcamins |
Thoughts? |
| 13:53 |
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fredericd |
The framework must contain info required to build $bib_heading_fields data structure |
| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, and I've been thinking that I'd prefer to use that. |
| 13:53 |
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jcamins |
Since someone might not want to link 655. |
| 13:57 |
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fredericd |
I have libraries who use specific authorities types located in the 69X biblio tags. For them, C4::Heading::MARC should have to be modified by hand ($bib_heading_fields) |
| 13:59 |
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jcamins |
So, the question is, how do I cache the results of SELECT authtypecode,tagfield FROM ... |
| 14:01 |
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jcamins |
Ah, got it. |
| 14:03 |
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jcamins |
Wait, no I don't. |
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fredericd |
This way, we even could merge MARC21 and UNIMARC classes... |
| 14:07 |
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jcamins |
Yes, I like that idea. |
| 14:07 |
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jcamins |
Except for one thing. How do I cache the results of the database access? |
| 14:08 |
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jcamins |
memoize valid_bib_heading_tag, and have it take $tag and $framework? |
| 14:09 |
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jcamins |
Oh, there's the problem. Subdivisions. |
| 14:10 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: do headings currently link with authorities in UNIMARC at all? |
| 14:10 |
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fredericd |
Yes, but they could stay hardcoded. Not absolutely sure, but I think that MARC21 and UNIMARC share the same letters to identify subdivisons |
| 14:11 |
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fredericd |
was replying to your subdiv question |
| 14:11 |
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jcamins |
The form subdivision in UNIMARC is $j. |
| 14:12 |
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jcamins |
Actually, bigger problem: UNIMARC uses different indexing. |
| 14:12 |
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jcamins |
GRS-1. |
| 14:13 |
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fredericd |
we don't use Zebra as we should/could |
| 14:13 |
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* jcamins |
is not writing UNIMARC indexing. |
| 14:14 |
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jcamins |
I'm getting paid to fix linking for MARC21, and I can add a UNIMARC class easily enough. |
| 14:14 |
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fredericd |
I have a pending patch for improving Zebra indexing, and facets building: bug 3216 |
| 14:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , UNIMARC author facets |
| 14:18 |
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fredericd |
jcamins: C4::Heading::MARC21::$bib_heading_fields has something to distinguish subject/series/main_entry |
| 14:18 |
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fredericd |
it doesn't exist in auth_tag_structure and auth_subfield_structure tables... |
| 14:18 |
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jcamins |
Yes, but that doesn't serve any useful purpose. |
| 14:19 |
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fredericd |
so, code using that should be removed before |
| 14:19 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I was just thinking of doing that. |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
3216 looks really interesting |
| 14:22 |
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cait |
will it work for marc21 too? |
| 14:22 |
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fredericd |
yes |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
and hi fredericd :) |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
we use icu for one library with hebrew |
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cait |
is this only icu for facets or will it use it in general then? |
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fredericd |
general |
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fredericd |
and you can choose during installation |
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cait |
sounds really good |
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cait |
hope to find time to look at it... but probably not for a while :( |
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fredericd |
cait: This patch is essential for UNIMARC libraries. Without it, authors facets don't include firstname |
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cait |
oh! |
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cait |
I think a sign off from someone knowing unimarc would be good then |
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cait |
and another for marc21 |
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cait |
there are some system preferences that don't work well with icu |
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cait |
I think it was stemming, fuzzy or/and field weighting |
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cait |
we never really figured it out, but there is some weirdness about them and icu |
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fredericd |
Yes. But it may have been fixed in Zebra/YAZ itself |
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cait |
worth a test :) |
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cait |
perhaps link that to the diacritics patch? |
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cait |
hm bug not patch |
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cait |
I have to run to catch my bus - bye all |
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jcamins |
AAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!! |
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jcamins |
We do the stupidest things! |
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* druthb |
occasionally worries about jcamins, you know. |
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jcamins |
druthb: ModZebra is part of C4::Biblio. |
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druthb |
yes....? |
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jcamins |
ModZebra. |
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wahanui |
it has been said that modzebra is part of C4::Biblio. |
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jcamins |
The function used to modify... |
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jcamins |
authorities. |
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druthb |
it's also used to trigger reindexing of a biblio. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I know. |
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druthb |
Properly, that probably ought to be two separate functions. If you check out an item, you need to update the index---you *don't* need to tinker with its' attached authorities at that point. |
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jcamins |
Ah, no, you misunderstand me. |
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jcamins |
In order to modify an authority record, you must call ModZebra. |
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jcamins |
In C4::Biblio. |
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jcamins |
Providing a "biblionumber" that looks suspiciously like the authid. |
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druthb |
ahhh... |
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druthb |
probably oughta put that in C4::Search::Zebra or some such, then, in the long run. |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
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* druthb |
is a little slow sometimes, but she usually gets it, eventually. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
Having exhausted members of his own family... |
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* jcamins |
moves on to cataloging imaginary books by members of druthb's family. |
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druthb |
lol |
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jcamins |
Excellent, this works. |
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druthb |
"Thick as mud", by D Ruth Bavousett. "Living with a Crazy Transsexual", by Lindsey Bavousett. "I'm a Teenager, Therefore My Life Sucks," by Libby Bavousett. "Meh, Whatever." by Captain Midnight Bavousett |
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* jcamins |
grumbles about circular dependencies. |
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jcamins |
druthb: lol |
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jcamins |
fredericd: I'm still having trouble figuring out how to cache the results of retrieving a list of tags linked to authorities. |
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jcamins |
fredericd: any thoughts? |
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jcamins |
It's too early for NZ still. |
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ktk |
hw to get rid of an error for patrons with message getting an error as patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 833 days We are getting this error for many patrons |
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jcamins |
ktk: I think I recall someone mentioning a bug that caused this, but I don't recall what it was. |
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jcamins |
(I mean, very recently someone mentioned it) |
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ktk |
is there any patch available to this bug then "to get rid of an error for patrons with message getting an error as patron has had overdue items and is blocked for x days" we are getting this error for several of our borrowers and we cant do any transactions |
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ktk |
does it sort out issue with any latest version of koha? or is there any way to make changes in the database directly and get this error sorted out. |
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fredericd |
jcamins: how to cache what? |
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jcamins |
fredericd: which fields are associated with authority records. |
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fredericd |
I don't understand |
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jcamins |
Wait, never mind. |
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jcamins |
As I wrote out my question in more detail I found the answer. |
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fredericd |
good for you |
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jcamins |
Oh, no, I didn't. |
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jcamins |
Un-never mind. |
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jcamins |
We discussed looking up in the framework which fields were authority-controlled, rather than hardcoding it. |
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jcamins |
So I need to figure out whether a given field is authority-controlled. |
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jcamins |
I do not want to query MySQL *every* time I am processing a heading. |
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fredericd |
jcamins: I suppose you have during initialization and populate the appropriate data structure |
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jcamins |
Yeah, my difficulty is that I really need the equivalent of the C++ "static". |
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jcamins |
Maybe I'll try memoize. |
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fredericd |
In C4::Heading::MARC21 ? |
| 18:10 |
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jcamins |
Well, just in C4::Heading. |
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jcamins |
That doesn't have to be specific to the MARC flavor. |
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jcamins |
Wait, maybe it does. |
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jcamins |
Drat. |
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fredericd |
Have you checked that: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlmod.html#BEGIN,-UNITCHECK,-CHECK,-INIT-and-END |
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jcamins |
I have not. |
| 18:12 |
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jcamins |
Cool! |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jcamins |
Okay... it doesn't like variables declared with my. |
| 18:29 |
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jcamins |
our? |
| 18:30 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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rangi |
and make sure you clear/reset that variable whenever the db changes, or it will cause a big mess when running in a persistent environment like mod_perl or plack |
| 18:36 |
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jcamins |
rangi: how do I do that? |
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rangi |
find the routine that sets the value in the db, and make that clear the variable |
| 18:36 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 18:36 |
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jcamins |
That's in a different file. |
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rangi |
right so that will now need to call a sub in the other one called something like clear_cached_heading or something |
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rangi |
for cgi it doesnt matter so much, the variable dies when the script does |
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rangi |
in mod_perl .. it will last forever |
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rangi |
i think preferences in Context does it |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 18:42 |
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jcamins |
Okay... what's plan B? |
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rangi |
either way, if you cache something, you have to clear it when you change the value |
| 18:44 |
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jcamins |
Right, it used to be hardcoded. |
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rangi |
yep |
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jcamins |
That has not bothered anyone in 3 years. |
| 18:44 |
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rangi |
yep, but now its not |
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jcamins |
My plan C is "put it back to hardcoded because this really isn't the issue that I'm trying to deal with." |
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rangi |
so caching it will not be the same |
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jcamins |
Well, it was up until I decided fifteen minutes ago not to hardcode it. |
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rangi |
ah |
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rangi |
id probably do the dynamic bit as a separate thing then |
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jcamins |
Right, that's the plan. |
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jcamins |
"No regressions" = good enough for me. |
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rangi |
yup |
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jcamins |
Sorry, fredericd. |
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rangi |
it can be a separate patch |
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rangi |
but i wouldnt hold up your matching work trying to do it |
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rangi |
kaizen :) |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
I was only doing it 'cause fredericd asked and it looked easy. |
| 18:51 |
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jcamins |
I was wrong about that last bit. |
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jcamins |
Good news! I remembered my alphabet after a few tries! |
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jcamins |
fredericd: UNIMARC pushed. |
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jcamins |
Argh! |
| 18:57 |
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jcamins |
I just pushed a typo. |
| 18:58 |
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jcamins |
fredericd: UNIMARC pushed without typo, now. |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
140k records matched today. |
| 18:59 |
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jcamins |
Several orders of magnitude faster. |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
awesome |
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jcamins |
rangi: incidentally, having ModZebra in C4::Biblio is horrifying. |
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jcamins |
Just thought I'd point that out. |
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jcamins |
Also, the AuthoritiesMarc<->Biblio dependency cycle is very vexing. |
| 19:06 |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
thats the main idea behind Koha:: in my mind |
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rangi |
is make new modules there, more carefully and transition to them |
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rangi |
but not to try to do it all in one go |
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jcamins |
If we had Koha::Search::Engine already, I could've mostly resolved that problem. |
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jcamins |
(AuthoritiesMarc<->Biblio, not cycles in general) |
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rangi |
and i dont think we need to create the whole module |
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jcamins |
No, just the part that does searching. :P |
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rangi |
no in general |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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rangi |
what i dont want to see |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 19:08 |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
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rangi |
is one huge patch that shifts a whole module over |
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rangi |
unless that module is already clean |
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rangi |
but start with Koha::Biblio for example |
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rangi |
and redo one subroutine to start |
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rangi |
the nice thing with a new namespace is you can do it carefully without busting anything already existing :) |
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rangi |
in theory |
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rangi |
:) |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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rangi |
if i were redoing biblio, i think its totally a candidate for OO |
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rangi |
using Class::Accessor as base |
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rangi |
so i can do |
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rangi |
$biblio->biblionumber(); |
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rangi |
thats as far as ive thought :) |
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jcamins |
:) |
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rangi |
oh look its wizzyrea |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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* jcamins |
waves back. |
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wizzyrea |
whassup |
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* rangi |
use to wave then he took an arrow to the kneww |
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rangi |
knee |
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rangi |
joke fail |
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* wizzyrea |
laughs |
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wizzyrea |
naw, not a fail - still pretty funny. |
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* jcamins |
didn't get the joke. |
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bag |
hi there wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
see: skyrim memes |
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wizzyrea |
heya bag |
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cait |
heya #koha |
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bag |
yo cait |
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wizzyrea |
wow! |
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jcamins |
Ah. Yeah, I won't get those. |
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jcamins |
Hi bag and cait. |
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rangi |
hey cait! |
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wizzyrea |
i am installing ancient windows games in wind |
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wizzyrea |
wine* |
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cait |
morning rangi, hi wizzyrea and jcamins :) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: excellent! |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: you could play Starcraft! |
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cait |
oh starcract |
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cait |
starcraft |
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wizzyrea |
hehe, I love starcrack |
| 19:26 |
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wizzyrea |
but i've really only played SC2 |
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rangi |
http://soundcloud.com/dubstep/[…]knee-by-rameses-b |
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jcamins |
Morrowind? |
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rangi |
skyrim is elder scrolls jcamins |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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rangi |
the latest one |
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jcamins |
rangi: I know, but Morrowind is old enough it might work in wine. |
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rangi |
yup |
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* rangi |
hasnt played it, my dad has it tho |
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jcamins |
Wait... |
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wizzyrea |
I think skyrim will, but I don't have my super good video card in linux |
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jcamins |
Skyrim runs under Wine? |
| 19:28 |
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jcamins |
Wow! |
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wizzyrea |
would be better to run it in windows |
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jcamins |
That's incredible! |
| 19:28 |
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wizzyrea |
*I think* |
| 19:28 |
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wizzyrea |
I got Rift to play in Wine |
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wizzyrea |
and WoW |
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rangi |
wine is pretty sweet these days |
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wizzyrea |
it really is, quite impressive |
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wizzyrea |
of course they keep thinking of new, novel ways to break it |
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wizzyrea |
but usually 6-8 months and they'll have a tweak for it |
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jcamins |
Morrowind is the only game I've played since Myst 3. |
| 19:30 |
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jcamins |
Wow... there have been two more Mysts. |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
i only play games at my parents house |
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* wizzyrea |
finds this funny |
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* jcamins |
wasn't so impressed with Myst III. |
| 19:31 |
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jcamins |
It took a week to win. :( |
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jcamins |
Myst took *years* |
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jcamins |
Okay, that might be because I was... errr... not very old... when it came out. |
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jcamins |
Apparently Myst came out almost 20 years ago. |
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rangi |
lords of midnight |
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cait |
has anyone played day of the tentacle? |
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* cait |
loved that |
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cait |
but was young too :) |
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jcamins |
Never played either of those. |
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rangi |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T[…]Lords_of_Midnight |
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rangi |
i was 11 when we got that |
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rangi |
i played that for years |
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rangi |
drew maps on graph paper |
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cait |
heroes of might and magic - I drew maps for that |
| 19:34 |
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rangi |
course it took about 17 minutes to load each time |
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cait |
hm not heroes |
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cait |
only might and magic |
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rangi |
on my zx spectrum |
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* jcamins |
didn't have one of those. |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
so actually i spent years listening to a tape squeal |
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cait |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_%26_Magic |
| 19:35 |
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rangi |
ah yeah i played that one |
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cait |
i got soo scared in those dungeions |
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cait |
and when I looked at it years later... it seemed quite silly |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 19:38 |
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rangi |
anyone play ultima ? |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins |
Ooh... almost done with the 167k linking. |
| 19:38 |
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jcamins |
Not me. |
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jcamins |
I know about it, though. A bit of a cult classic, I think. |
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rangi |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_(series) |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
it was fun |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
i played 1 - 5 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:41 |
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rangi |
my nephew (who is 4) was running around yesterday yelling |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
"where's my sword, brigands are attacking" |
| 19:42 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
i suspect he has been watching his dad play games |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
it was at the market, was quite funny |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
Bib 167198. |
| 19:43 |
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jcamins |
167313 |
| 19:44 |
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jcamins |
^^ do you see that? In just a few seconds it did over a hundred! |
| 19:44 |
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rangi |
nice |
| 19:44 |
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rangi |
and because it doesnt need to rebuild everything in one go thats totally good enough |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
Heh. Producing the linking report takes a long time. |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
Wow. It's a 21MB file. |
| 19:46 |
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rangi |
whoa |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
It includes a list of every single bib it processed. |
| 19:46 |
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rangi |
ahhh |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
Right... guess I need to write a script that will remove that list. |
| 19:47 |
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rangi |
that'd do it, well too much info beats not enough |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
First time running it on the entire database. |
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cait |
jcamins++ :) |
| 19:49 |
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jcamins |
12.5MB for the report only. |
| 19:54 |
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jcamins |
340k unlinked; 495k linked; 5877 fuzzily linked. |
| 19:54 |
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rangi |
oh thats pretty darn good |
| 19:55 |
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jcamins |
Now, how to improve it? |
| 19:56 |
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rangi |
well i think thats a good improvement from the current one |
| 19:56 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, certainly. |
| 19:56 |
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cait |
what does fuzzy link mean? |
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rangi |
and worth getting others to test |
| 19:57 |
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rangi |
like cait |
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rangi |
hehe |
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jcamins |
:) |
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* cait |
hides |
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cait |
I gave him data! |
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* jcamins |
will be trying with cait's data. :) |
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cait |
how long did it take for those now? |
| 19:57 |
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jcamins |
I didn't try your data yet. |
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cait |
and you know that our data could be perfectly linked... if the script understood the $0 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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cait |
:P |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
hmm |
| 19:58 |
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rangi |
i wonder if that paul guy would give you data |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins |
cait: you can write your own linker for that, you know. Very easy with my new architecture. |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins |
I'm sure he would. |
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* jcamins |
would probably prefer to beg MDAH for data, though. |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
i just thought might be a nice PR |
| 19:59 |
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jcamins |
Not that it's likely they'd refuse to give it to me. |
| 19:59 |
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jcamins |
True. |
| 20:00 |
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* jcamins |
will consider. |
| 20:00 |
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cait |
jcamins: I should have seen that coming... |
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rangi |
:) |
| 20:01 |
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jcamins |
Ohh. |
| 20:02 |
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jcamins |
Figured out why these aren't linking. |
| 20:02 |
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jcamins |
No auth record. |
| 20:02 |
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jcamins |
The cataloger is going to be *pissed*. |
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jcamins |
(but, when you don't have an authority record, you're kind of SOL on the whole "automatic linking" thing. |
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jcamins |
cait: remind me where to find your data? |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
ah |
| 20:04 |
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jcamins |
Wait, found it. |
| 20:04 |
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cait |
thought you had downloaded it |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
I did. |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
But I want to test it on a server, and I have a lousy home connection. |
| 20:05 |
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cait |
want me to find the link? |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
No, I have it. |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
What's the difference between _1 and _2? |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
Just different parts of the data? |
| 20:05 |
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cait |
I think so |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
sliced up a bit |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.ph[…]n:openaccess:maub |
| 20:06 |
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cait |
says 2 parts |
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jcamins |
cait: you'll be glad to know that writing your linker module will be super-easy. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
bbiab |
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cait |
jcamins: will be even happier when you help me doing it :) |
| 20:14 |
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jcamins |
Can I softlink to a file which is under a softlinked directory? |
| 20:16 |
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jcamins |
Answer: yes. |
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* jcamins |
refuses to ask the follow up question: "Should I?" |
| 20:17 |
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cait |
don't look at me |
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cait |
i don't know |
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* cait |
offers dried cherries |
| 20:24 |
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jcamins |
Wow! |
| 20:24 |
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jcamins |
cait: can I please use your data center? |
| 20:24 |
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jcamins |
Pretty please? :) |
| 20:24 |
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cait |
my what? |
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jcamins |
BSZ-BW's data center. |
| 20:25 |
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jcamins |
I've never gotten 5MB/sec download before. |
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cait |
oh |
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jcamins |
:) |
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cait |
perhaps has something to do with belwue? |
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jcamins |
It's nice and fast, whoever hosts it. :) |
| 20:26 |
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cait |
and you are probably downloading at a good time |
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cait |
our servers are at the data center of university of konstanz |
| 20:26 |
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jcamins |
Oh, maybe they have Internet2. |
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cait |
http://www.belwue.de/ - perhaps that's the reason? |
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jcamins |
Ah. Maybe. |
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jcamins |
cait: aut = authorities, tit = biblios? |
| 20:30 |
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jcamins |
cait: oh, in answer to your question earlier, "fuzzy" is whatever the linker defines it as |
| 20:30 |
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cait |
yep |
| 20:31 |
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cait |
sounds right |
| 20:31 |
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jcamins |
In this case, it means "more than one authority matched." |
| 20:33 |
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jcamins |
Importing Mannheim's data. |
| 20:34 |
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jcamins |
1.4 million titles? |
| 20:34 |
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jcamins |
Eek. |
| 20:34 |
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* jcamins |
will try just importing _1. |
| 20:34 |
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jcamins |
Hopefully that will be enough. |
| 20:34 |
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cait |
are there 2 auth files? |
| 20:34 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jcamins |
20k imported... |
| 20:39 |
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jcamins |
50k imported... |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
cait: you have this in a Koha instance? |
| 20:41 |
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cait |
nope |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
It seems to me that this must be one of the larger installations. |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
| 20:41 |
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jcamins |
I guess it's not, then. |
| 20:41 |
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cait |
it's data from the union catalog |
| 20:41 |
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cait |
oh |
| 20:41 |
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cait |
and it's not converted... with our koha converter |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
so you will have wrong normalization perhaps |
| 20:42 |
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jcamins |
What does your Koha converter do? |
| 20:42 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 20:42 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
unicode normalization |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
and some other evil things |
| 20:42 |
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jcamins |
Well, I'll bug you if it doesn't work. :P |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
like moving the subject chains |
| 20:42 |
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jcamins |
Moving the subject chains? |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
breaking them up into single subjects and move them to the proper marc21 fields |
| 20:42 |
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cait |
689 |
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cait |
look at that |
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jcamins |
Uh-oh. So there aren't subjects in 650s? |
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cait |
hm |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
there might be some from loc |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
oh right |
| 20:43 |
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jcamins |
That won't help me test your subject headings. :P |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
I should have told you that... |
| 20:43 |
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jcamins |
Yeah... |
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cait |
sorry |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
didn't think about it |
| 20:44 |
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jcamins |
That's okay. |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
about that part... the other things should not make a big difference |
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jcamins |
Well, I have 90k authorities from BSZ-BW imported now. |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
there will be |
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cait |
corporate authors |
| 20:45 |
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cait |
personal names |
| 20:45 |
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cait |
no meeting |
| 20:45 |
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cait |
topical, geographic |
| 20:45 |
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jcamins |
Eh. It's running on a server. We'll see what happens. |
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jcamins |
:D |
| 20:45 |
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jcamins |
Better increase the size limits on the Zebra directories... |
| 20:46 |
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jcamins |
40GB each better be enough, 'cause I don't have infinite disk space on this server. |
| 20:46 |
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cait |
the structure of the 689 is ... not so nice I think |
| 20:47 |
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jcamins |
That's very diplomatic. |
| 20:47 |
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jcamins |
Perhaps Uli will be interested in testing the linking, to see if it can simplify things for you at all. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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cait |
at the moment we don't link then |
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cait |
them |
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cait |
we import them linked |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
but it would be nice to not rely so much on our authority number |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
but use koha internal numbers for linking |
| 20:49 |
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jcamins |
Yes, but maybe you can find a use for it. :) |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
and it would be cool to figure that out until may |
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cait |
because they change the fomrat |
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cait |
for the authorities |
| 20:49 |
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jcamins |
In May? |
| 20:49 |
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jcamins |
Why? |
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cait |
it's a real big project |
| 20:50 |
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jcamins |
Uh-oh. Big projects are always bad news. ;) |
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jcamins |
140k imported. |
| 20:50 |
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jcamins |
This is blazing fast. |
| 20:50 |
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jcamins |
That worries me. |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
nice data? :P |
| 20:53 |
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jcamins |
I suppose that's possible. |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
it's not bad news, but it's really big |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
all union catalogs closing, converting data to new format |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
training catalogers |
| 20:53 |
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cait |
... |
| 20:54 |
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jcamins |
Exciting times. :) |
| 20:54 |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
and we will reload all koha libraries with union catalog data |
| 20:54 |
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cait |
authorities especially |
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cait |
but also the bibliographic records |
| 20:55 |
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jcamins |
Well... |
| 20:55 |
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jcamins |
This is weird. |
| 20:55 |
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cait |
the advantages of a central cataloging database :) |
| 20:55 |
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cait |
so it's a good time to make changes to the converter and improve things |
| 20:55 |
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jcamins |
I have 171k authority records in my database, but none show up in the staff client. |
| 20:56 |
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jcamins |
Actually, I'm just having issues figuring out how to access authority records. |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
so now they show? |
| 20:57 |
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jcamins |
Oh, I just don't know how importing authorities works, apparently. |
| 20:57 |
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jcamins |
Ignore me. |
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cait |
that wouldn't be very nice... to ignore yo |
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jcamins |
Authorities are working fine. |
| 20:58 |
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jcamins |
Strangely it's starting at 16million. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
what does it look at? |
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cait |
the number in 001? |
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jcamins |
001. |
| 20:59 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
that' scorrect |
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jcamins |
Something else you should've warned me about? :P |
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cait |
always 9 digits |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
this is a test |
| 20:59 |
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cait |
if I did tell you everything... would not be a lot of fun |
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jcamins |
What are you testing? |
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jcamins |
lol |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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cait |
hi magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
guten abend cait |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
jcamins: not you if you are worried about that :) |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Oh dear. |
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jcamins |
So... |
| 21:20 |
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jcamins |
Don't load Mannheim into a Koha database. |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
what happened? |
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jcamins |
The tablespace was filled. |
| 21:21 |
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cait |
? |
| 21:21 |
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jcamins |
DBD::mysql::st execute failed: The table 'auth_header' is full |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
full?? |
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* jcamins |
shrugs. |
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cait |
what doest hat mean full? |
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jcamins |
I have no idea. |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
that's kinda.. scary |
| 21:23 |
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jcamins |
Agreed. |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins |
I think I'll just drop that database and pretend it didn't happen. |
| 21:29 |
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cait |
oh :( |
| 21:29 |
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* magnuse |
shares some equinoxe from valrhona with the weekend/late night crew |
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cait |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi cait |
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magnuse |
"If a table-full error occurs, it may be that the disk is full or that the table has reached its maximum size." http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]n/full-table.html |
| 21:29 |
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* jcamins |
will beg you for a smaller dataset that you use for testing. |
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magnuse |
kia ora druthb! |
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druthb |
kia ora, magnuse. :) |
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cait |
jcamins: I was interested in the results of that! |
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cait |
:) |
| 21:30 |
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cait |
but remind me to dig for some data on monday |
| 21:30 |
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jcamins |
cait: me too, but it'd take days to reindex, too. |
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cait |
hm k |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
I have created a small dataset for testing |
| 21:32 |
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cait |
quite small... but might be interesting for you, lots of links and things |
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jcamins |
Perfect! |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
waiting for the 'converted' version |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
so then the subjects should be correct, but it's quite small |
| 21:33 |
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cait |
wanted to it for testing links in the opac |
| 21:36 |
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jcamins |
Okay, how to I rebase a whole bunch of patches onto a new branch? |
| 21:37 |
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jcamins |
*do I |
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magnuse |
jcamins: are they patch files, or commits on a branch? |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins |
Commits on a branch. |
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jcamins |
Usually I'd use git format-patch and apply that, but I'd prefer to do it the right way. |
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magnuse |
"just" rebase that branch onto the branch where you want the commits, then, i would guess? |
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jcamins |
But won't that eliminate the original branch? |
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* magnuse |
was doing it the wrong way a minute ago |
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magnuse |
the branch that you want to get the commits from? |
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magnuse |
hm, i'm no expert, but i think it will |
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magnuse |
but would you want to have the commits in two places? |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's what I'm trying not to do. |
| 21:40 |
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magnuse |
maybe cherry-picking? |
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jcamins |
Yes, because on the second branch I'm going to squash commits, and I want to have a working branch if I screw stuff up. |
| 21:40 |
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jcamins |
I thought that might be the answer. |
| 21:42 |
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jcamins |
Wait, I have an idea. |
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* magnuse |
is waiting |
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jcamins |
I can checkout a copy of my branch, then rebase the copy onto kc/master. |
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magnuse |
yeah, a copy sounds like what you want |
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jcamins |
That worked. |
| 21:46 |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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* magnuse |
has tried to rebase catalyst's l10n work on the 3.6.x branch and is now trying to build packages with translations off the result... |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! |
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jcamins |
magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
well, i did say *try to*! |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
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cait |
we believe in you :) |
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magnuse |
thanks |
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magnuse |
"debian/list-deps: unknown package for CGI::Session::Driver::memcached" does not look too promising, perhaps... |
| 22:04 |
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magnuse |
but i think i might know the solution, at least in theory |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
that module is at debian.kc |
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rangi |
ull just need that in ur sources list |
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magnuse |
yeah, i think eythian told me to do: |
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magnuse |
sudo pbuilder create --othermirror 'deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha [^] squeeze main' |
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magnuse |
oops, without the "[^]" of course |
| 22:10 |
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rangi |
should do it |
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jcamins |
That sounds right. |
| 22:11 |
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jcamins |
Wow. I really didn't expect this to involve quite so many lines. |
| 22:11 |
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jcamins |
+1709, -578, after squashing a bunch of small commits together. |
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jcamins |
Any idea how to sum up *all* the values in a hash? |
| 22:17 |
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rangi |
foreach loop? |
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* rangi |
attempts to burn down the house |
| 22:18 |
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rangi |
making popcorn |
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jcamins |
rangi: I was hoping there was a nicer way. |
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cait |
lol |
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rangi |
jcamins: there might be, but can't think of it |
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magnuse |
ooh, it's generating nb-NO templates from the translations... |
| 22:20 |
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jcamins |
Hooray! |
| 22:21 |
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magnuse |
still no guarantee of ultimate success... |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
crossing fingers |
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magnuse |
no luck... |
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magnuse |
dh_install: koha-common missing files (debian/tmp_docbook/*.8), aborting |
| 22:22 |
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magnuse |
make: *** [binary] Error 2 |
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magnuse |
dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2 |
| 22:22 |
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magnuse |
E: Failed autobuilding of package |
| 22:23 |
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rangi |
looks like man page stuff |
| 22:23 |
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magnuse |
yeah, weird |
| 22:25 |
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rangi |
hmmm |
| 22:25 |
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magnuse |
well, that's a headache for another day, i'm off to watch the last half hour of "Lewis", season 5 episode 3! |
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rangi |
:) |
| 22:25 |
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magnuse |
see ya tomorrow, folks! |
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magnuse is now known as magnus_away |
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rangi |
make sure u write it up :) |
| 22:26 |
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cait |
bye magnus_away |
| 22:26 |
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magnus_away |
rangi: will do |
| 22:26 |
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magnus_away |
c ya cait! |
| 22:34 |
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jcamins |
Is there a way to get git-bz to attach multiple patches with one command? |
| 22:35 |
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rangi |
not without hackery I think |
| 22:35 |
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jcamins |
That's what I figured. |
| 22:35 |
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cait |
jcamins: i do something like HEAD^^^ |
| 22:35 |
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cait |
and only -e for the first |
| 22:35 |
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cait |
and then just delete one ^ after the other |
| 22:36 |
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cait |
but not really elegant... |
| 22:36 |
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jcamins |
cait: that's what I do, too. |
| 22:37 |
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rangi |
read up on git, how to specify a range |
| 22:37 |
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rangi |
and try that |
| 22:37 |
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rangi |
it might work :) |
| 22:37 |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
| 22:37 |
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jcamins |
If I remember I'll try next time. |
| 22:38 |
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jcamins |
Already posted the patches. |
| 22:38 |
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jcamins |
Bug 7284 |
| 22:38 |
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wahanui |
Bug 7284 is probably the first step to making that happen. |
| 22:38 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 enhancement, P2, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 22:38 |
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rangi |
cool! |
| 22:38 |
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cait |
very cool :) |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
So, if anyone was looking for something *incredibly absurdly totally and utterly* awesome, today is your lucky day. |
| 22:40 |
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rangi |
Hehe |
| 22:40 |
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rangi |
I do need to do authority linking |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
Well, give it a whirl. |
| 22:40 |
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rangi |
but not for a week or so |
| 22:40 |
|
jcamins |
Grr. |
| 22:40 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 22:40 |
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rangi |
first I have to make the authorities |
| 22:40 |
|
rangi |
from a csv file |
| 22:41 |
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jcamins |
Hmm... |
| 22:41 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, might be a good idea. |
| 22:41 |
|
rangi |
on leave next week |
| 22:41 |
|
rangi |
taking the family to rotorua |
| 22:41 |
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jcamins |
Cool! |
| 22:42 |
|
rangi |
to see geysers and boiling mud etc |
| 22:42 |
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jcamins |
Mmm. Boiling mud. |
| 22:43 |
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rangi |
cait and magnuse have been there |
| 22:43 |
|
rangi |
and paul, hdl and slef too |
| 22:43 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 22:43 |
|
cait |
and geysir |
| 22:43 |
|
huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7284] Authority matching algorithm improvements <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284> |
| 22:44 |
|
cait |
I have heard they have 'mud for men' at the shop there :P |
| 22:44 |
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cait |
maybe you should get some |
| 22:44 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 22:44 |
|
rangi |
ill pass |
| 22:45 |
|
cait |
oh |
| 22:45 |
|
cait |
and they have kiwis |
| 22:45 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 22:45 |
|
rangi |
we have some here in the zoo |
| 22:45 |
|
rangi |
u can see them at zoodoo |
| 22:45 |
|
jcamins |
Kiwis? I guess this is something other than the fruit? |
| 22:46 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 22:46 |
|
rangi |
the fruit is kiwifruit |
| 22:46 |
|
rangi |
kiwi is the bird it takes it name from |
| 22:47 |
|
rangi |
small brown and hairy looking |
| 22:47 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 22:47 |
|
jcamins |
I didn't know that. |
| 22:47 |
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rangi |
I think the us drops the fruit bit off the name |
| 22:48 |
|
rangi |
maybe germany too cait? |
| 22:48 |
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cait |
yep |
| 22:48 |
|
cait |
only kiwi here |
| 22:58 |
|
cait |
rangi: going to take a hot bath too?... forgot how they are called |
| 22:59 |
|
rangi |
hot pool |
| 22:59 |
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cait |
yes hat |
| 23:00 |
|
cait |
that |
| 23:01 |
|
rangi |
yep I think we will |
| 23:01 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 23:19 |
|
* jcamins |
has been evicted. |
| 23:19 |
|
rangi |
oh? |
| 23:19 |
|
jcamins |
A higher life form has preempted my chair. |
| 23:19 |
|
rangi |
ahh |
| 23:20 |
|
jcamins |
He is currently *loudly* washing his paws. |
| 23:20 |
|
* cait |
waves at myshkin |
| 23:20 |
|
jcamins |
When I put my face near his, he licks my nose. It's very cute. |
| 23:21 |
|
jcamins |
I'm not sure exactly why. |
| 23:24 |
|
jcamins |
I guess it doesn't meet his standards of cleanliness. |
| 23:24 |
|
rangi |
heh |
| 23:24 |
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cait |
hehe :) |
| 23:25 |
|
magnus_away |
rotorua was fun! |
| 23:26 |
|
rangi |
heh you woke up to say that? |
| 23:26 |
|
* magnus_away |
saw a wild kiwi on kapiti |
| 23:26 |
|
magnus_away |
sure! |
| 23:27 |
|
rangi |
ohh a wild one |
| 23:27 |
|
rangi |
you a literally one in 100 million or so |
| 23:27 |
|
rangi |
to have done that |
| 23:28 |
|
magnus_away |
yay! |
| 23:36 |
|
rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 23:36 |
|
huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (12:00 PM NZDT on January 08, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:36 |
|
rangi |
hope that stops before tomorrow |
| 23:39 |
|
* magnus_away |
goes to sleep |
| 23:40 |
|
cait |
good night magnuse :) |
| 23:40 |
|
rangi |
sleep well |
| 23:40 |
|
cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 23:40 |
|
huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.8�C (12:35 AM CET on January 08, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:41 |
|
jcamins |
Good night, cait. |
| 23:41 |
|
cait |
oh |
| 23:41 |
|
cait |
that was for magnuse :) |
| 23:41 |
|
jcamins |
Yes, and that was for you. :) |
| 23:41 |
|
cait |
but actually... not a bad idea |
| 23:41 |
|
cait |
ohok |
| 23:42 |
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jcamins is now known as jcamins_away |
| 23:54 |
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cait left #koha |
