IRC log for #koha, 2012-01-06

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05:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7264] Display information about library on OPAC detail <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7264>
05:22 Oak Guten Morgen cait :) got home okay last night?
05:24 cait yes, thx Oak :)
05:24 Oak :)
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07:27 magnuse kia ora #koha!
07:28 cait good morning magnuse :)
07:28 cait happy gbsd!
07:29 magnuse yeah happy gbsd, and sorry for not sending out a reminder, opening the floodgates on twitter etc earlier...
07:29 cait ...
07:29 cait stop doing that :)
07:29 cait didn't remind you to send a reminder... now I am feeling bad too :P
07:30 magnuse nah, we'll survive ;-)
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07:34 alex_a bonjour
07:34 wahanui hola, alex_a
07:35 cait hi alex_a
07:35 AmitG heya cait
07:36 magnuse hiya alex_a and AmitG
07:36 cait hi AmitG
07:36 cait everyone ready for gbsd?
07:36 magnuse[…]bug_squashing_day
07:37 magnuse 53 bugs need signoff
07:38 cait yep
07:38 cait and lots of things to test and tidy up!
07:38 magnuse 219 bugs are... Status: NEW, ASSIGNED, REOPENED - Priority: PATCH-Sent - Patch Status: (is not equal to) Patch Pushed - Patch Status: (is not equal to) Signed off
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07:39 reiveune hello
07:39 alex_a hello magnuse, cait, AmitG
07:41 * cait gets out  some virtual chocolate cookies for gbsd
07:45 magnuse interesting:
07:45 magnuse sounds like fullfilment will harvest records just-in-case from those source a library wants to do ill from?
07:46 magnuse i don't think that will work well in norway, sadly...
07:46 cait I think fulfillment will work when you don't already have an ILL system in place
07:47 cait so not sure it iwll work for germany
07:47 magnuse hm, we better think about getting some ill functionality into koha, then...
07:48 cait yep
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08:00 paul_p good morning everybody !
08:00 cait good morning paul_p
08:00 rangi morning paul_p
08:01 matts_away is now known as matts
08:02 matts hi !
08:02 sophie_m hello
08:05 magnuse hiya sophie_m paul_p rangi matts
08:05 rangi heya magnuse, matts and sophie_m
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08:09 asaurat hi!
08:10 magnuse bonjour asaurat
08:13 cait heya rangi, matts, sophie_m and guten morgen asaurat :)
08:13 sophie_m Guten Morgen cait :-)
08:16 matts or "Moin !", as some German say !
08:16 matts (mainly northern germany, i think)
08:17 cait heh
08:17 asaurat they also say "Grüss Gott" there :D
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08:18 julian_m hello all
08:19 cait heh
08:19 cait now german bug sqashing day instead of global? ;)
08:19 sophie_m :-)
08:24 rangi asaurat: they say that lots in vienna too
08:24 rangi and tchuss in switzerland
08:24 rangi to confuse tourists who spent time trying to learn german before they travelled
08:25 cait ah?
08:25 wahanui somebody said ah was he here?
08:25 magnuse only german comments on bugs will accepted today!
08:25 cait what did the tourists learn?
08:25 magnuse wahanui: forget ah
08:25 wahanui magnuse: I forgot ah
08:25 asaurat oh ? a lot of tschüss in Berlin too
08:25 matts not to fall from the moutain...
08:25 asaurat well, the books teach "auf wiedersehen" :)
08:25 rangi auf wiedersehen
08:25 rangi exactly!
08:26 cait you can say that :)
08:26 cait or even italian: ciao
08:26 * matts needs to go to freiburg... Miss it !
08:27 cait :)
08:27 rangi but the one i did learn, and it was very useful in munchen
08:27 rangi ein bier, bitte
08:27 matts If only i could speak german as well as i speak english... I probably would be living in Germany right now :)
08:28 magnuse rangi: i imagine that might come in handy outside of m�nchen too... ;-)
08:28 matts rangi, you're right, that more than useful : that's survival ! :)
08:28 cait well
08:29 cait I offered to teach abou tbugs today
08:29 rangi and then for the next day
08:29 cait but I can extend to german lessons
08:29 rangi ein kaffee bitte
08:29 rangi to recover :)
08:29 cait ok, does someone wnat to learn something else? coffee, beer, cake?
08:29 magnuse cookies!
08:29 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
08:29 rangi how do you say
08:29 cait perhaps you should learn also: ein aspirin bitte (for the recovery)
08:29 rangi please sign off on this patch for me
08:29 magnuse wahanui hits the nail on the head!
08:29 wahanui magnuse: huh?
08:30 rangi :)
08:30 cait I have not found something good for sign off in german yet
08:30 cait something like abzeichnen I think
08:30 cait but it sounds werid
08:30 magnuse that's a hard one in norwegian too
08:30 cait zeichne diesen Patch für mich ab, bitte
08:31 magnuse i don't have too many norwegians to talk to about signing off patches with, though...
08:31 magnuse oops, that got mangled...
08:31 * cait gibt magnus kekse
08:32 cait ok
08:32 cait which bugs are you all working on right now? :)
08:32 * Oak goes to find German for bugger-off
08:32 asaurat ah, a good friend of mine in Berlin was learning norwegian and showed me a bunch of movies from there... that was very... unusual (in a good way ;))
08:32 cait shout out for your bug (or something like that)
08:32 asaurat I'm trying to see if 7307 can move on
08:33 asaurat bug 7307
08:33 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7307 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , OPACBaseURL not used in
08:34 cait asaurat++
08:34 Oak asaurat++
08:34 asaurat and I'll check if bug 7029 can be cancelled, it may come from a bad French translation in a system preference
08:34 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7029 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , searching : fuzzy et steming
08:35 cait cool :)
08:35 rangi asaurat: i agree with your comment 9 on 7307
08:35 cait I think I will take a look at bug 5358
08:35 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5358 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , keep track of cancelled orders
08:35 rangi i think the full path would work best
08:36 asaurat rangi: yes, but I fear that it could cause problems elsewhere ?
08:36 rangi hmm it might, would have to check the templates to make sure there werent ones that were http://[% url %]
08:36 matts my favorite norvegian movie : Dead Snow (Død snø). Plain funny horror movie :)
08:37 asaurat looks like not actually, but I'm still checking
08:37 rangi a grep should hopefully find them
08:38 asaurat oh, yes, found at least one http://url in opac-sendshelf
08:38 asaurat yes, that's what I'm reading, I'll make a patch going this way then
08:38 magnuse asaurat: remember any titles? ;-)
08:39 rangi asaurat: excellent!
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08:40 asaurat magnuse: "Den brysomme mannen" for example :)
08:40 magnuse matts: yeah, that is a good one. try "troll hunter" if you have not seen it ;-) (someone here had, but i don't remember who)
08:40 magnuse asaurat: ah, i've not seen that one, but i can sort of imagine what it's like from what i have heard
08:40 rangi troll hunter is great
08:40 cait of course it was rangi
08:40 magnuse yay!
08:40 cait heh
08:41 cait has been everywhere and knows lots of things :)
08:41 * magnuse takes a shot at bug 7264
08:41 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Display information about library on OPAC detail
08:41 magnuse rangi++
08:41 rangi i havent been to antartica
08:41 rangi or south america
08:41 matts troll hunter looks fun... will check this one !
08:41 * cait is still suggesting Konstanz ;)
08:41 rangi done the other continents tho
08:42 * magnuse would vote for kohacon in sout america ;-)
08:42 * rangi too
08:48 cait oh bug tweets
08:48 cait magnuse++
08:48 magnuse yeah, better late than never, i hope...
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08:55 cait hm no francharb today?
08:55 cait I thought he wrote down somewhere what all the different prices and column names in acq mean
08:55 cait but don't remember where
08:55 cait does someone else?
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08:58 christophe_c hi all
08:58 * paul_p switches to "pushing patches" mode ...
08:59 * cait hands paul_p a chocolate cookie
08:59 paul_p (but 1st fixing the updatedatabase stuff & sending a mail to mailing lists about that)
08:59 cait hi christophe_c :)
08:59 christophe_c hi cait happy new year
08:59 cait oh and good morning paul_p of course
08:59 cait christophe_c: happy new year to you too!
09:00 christophe_c ;-)
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09:09 francharb hello all
09:09 francharb hey cait
09:09 francharb[…]ugust/030270.html
09:09 francharb ;)
09:10 cait thx!
09:12 cait francharb: I often remember something is there, like a bug, and then can#t find it - pretty annoying!
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09:13 francharb 0/
09:14 francharb good luck cait!
09:14 francharb ;)
09:14 francharb 0/ kmkale (i mean)
09:15 francharb woaaaa, today is broken english day
09:15 francharb :)
09:16 matts is now known as matts_away
09:16 cait isn't everyday broken english day?
09:17 matts_away is now known as matts
09:17 francharb cait++
09:18 francharb you're right!
09:18 cait good, i was worried for a moment :)
09:18 francharb I just hope people like broken english as mush as I like broken french!
09:18 francharb ;)
09:20 cait well... I can't even offer that
09:25 cait hm
09:25 cait I created a basket
09:25 cait and cancelled the order in it
09:25 cait and now i can't find the basket?
09:25 magnuse bug 7264 could do with some more opinions i think - i have added a screenshot of what it looks like
09:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Display information about library on OPAC detail
09:28 cait commented
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09:30 cait hm
09:30 cait if the book is 8.00
09:30 cait and the tax rate is 10
09:30 cait why is my calculated price 6.99?
09:31 cait and default gist is 0
09:33 cait do I really want to know?
09:34 magnuse cait++
09:41 cait oh my
09:41 cait it's saving it wrong too
09:42 rangi no discount or anything eh?
09:42 cait nope
09:42 rangi or currency difference?
09:42 cait check the screenshots on bug 7264
09:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Display information about library on OPAC detail
09:42 cait oh
09:42 cait i can check that
09:43 cait and bug is 7410
09:43 cait ohohoh
09:43 cait you might be right
09:43 cait user problems are so much better than a bug here
09:44 rangi :)
09:45 cait exchange rate was not set to 1
09:45 wahanui cait: that doesn't look right
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09:45 cait normally working with german sample data
09:45 rangi that'd do it
09:45 cait yep
09:45 cait but
09:45 cait modified order line and it won't recalculate
09:45 cait stupid form
09:48 cait List Item Price Includes Tax:                      No - should it be adding the tax to the price?
09:52 cait sorry for complaining loud
09:52 cait all my fault :)
09:56 cait perhaps I am not awake enough for acq testing
09:56 * cait wanders off for a bit
09:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #581 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
09:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6328' <[…]1554e6e87f4248462> / follow-up of the previous follow-up: forgot the file <[…]f67c4882f9fc3128f> / follow-up: fixing mistake in database revision number <
10:00 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7307] OPACBaseURL not used in <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7307>
10:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6880' <[…]d165029100b804f02> / follow-up for DB rev number <[…]253e381619b7b14f0> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6530' <[…];h=2202ee78c3abf4
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10:26 * magnuse gives bug 7154 a shot
10:26 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7154 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Group borrower attributes and link between patron category and attribute
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10:28 sblib i have a query on circulation. though we have returned all items for a patron it does not allow to checkout items for that patron and gives a message patron had overdue items and is blocked for 835 days how to clear this message
10:49 sblib how to unlock patron if he is debarred
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10:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #581: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/581/
10:53 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: follow-up: fixing mistake in database revision number
10:53 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: follow-up of the previous follow-up: forgot the file
10:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #582 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
10:54 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7411] remove diacritics when automatically generating userid <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7411>
11:04 magnuse success! \o/
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11:42 magnuse hm, the number of patches that need to be signed off is going up, not down...
11:44 pastebot "kmkale" at pasted "Errors while updating via git" (5 lines) at
11:44 kmkale ^^
11:46 magnuse kmkale: did you see the recent emails from paul_p?
11:46 kmkale nope
11:47 magnuse i *think* he might be talking about what you are seeing
11:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #582: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/582/
11:47 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: follow-up: fixing DBrev wrong number
11:47 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: follow-up for DB rev number
11:47 pastebot "kmkale" at pasted "errors post upgrade via git" (1 line) at
11:48 kmkale ^^ is a new one to me :(
11:48 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7166] Modify order notes when basket is closed <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7166>
11:50 magnuse kmkale: me too...
11:51 * kmkale is reinstalling after a make clean
11:58 kmkale no dice
11:59 kmkale line 323 of is : my @recentSearches = @{thaw($searchcookie) || []};
12:00 kmkale and line 416 at is : eval { $self = mretrieve($frozen) };    # Call C routine
12:06 kmkale can't make out anything about this
12:08 sblib help required how to unblock patrons
12:08 sblib getting an error as patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 833 days
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12:43 nengard need some db help - in the serial table there is a status column with numbers - anyone know what each numbered status means?
12:45 cait probably referring to arrived and late and such?
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12:49 paul_p cait is right
12:49 paul_p nengard, look at source code of a serial recieve, you'll see the values
12:50 jcamins_away Woohoo! Linking worked!
12:50 jcamins_away Kind of.
12:51 jcamins_away paul_p: you're just the person I wanted to talk to!
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12:51 jcamins paul_p: any idea how to get rid of the "Wide character in print" error when outputting to STDOUT?
12:52 jcamins Ah, here we go: binmode(STDOUT, ":utf8");
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12:54 cait hi jcamins
12:55 jcamins Hi cait.
12:58 cait working on the authorities again?
12:59 jcamins We've moved into the testing phase. :)
13:01 cait yay :)
13:01 jcamins Being very impatient, as soon as there was a sign that it was working, I decided to add caching.
13:01 cait :)
13:02 jcamins It takes approximately a gazillion years to link 167k records.
13:03 cait oh
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13:06 * jcamins didn't want to wait a gazillion years.
13:07 jcamins cait:
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13:08 nengard manual updated with info about serial table statuses:[…]fd8f63a4b6a8d67e8
13:10 seneca Anyone familiar/experienced with the overdue notices process?
13:11 seneca When I run the script the appropriate messages get put into the message_queue, but none of the to_address fields get filled
13:11 seneca though all our patrons have email addresses under "email" in borrowers
13:12 seneca I'm not proficient enough at Perl this morning to go digging through the overdue_notices script yet. ;)
13:12 cait they don't get filled
13:12 jcamins seneca: it never fills in to_address.
13:12 cait it's by design
13:12 jcamins Not sure why.
13:12 seneca oh
13:12 cait it pulls the address when sending htem
13:12 seneca so, my "fail" statuses aren't due to that
13:13 cait so it has the most up to date address
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13:13 seneca b/c what I'm really trying to figure out is why they all fail except for the one which is going to the library admin, and that one DOES have something in the to_address field
13:14 cait no it shouldn't be related to your fails
13:14 seneca good to know
13:14 seneca thanks
13:14 oleonard Hi bug-squashers
13:14 cait yes, because it's not a real user
13:14 cait you shouldn't use it
13:14 cait ah no sorry, ignore that comment
13:15 cait I assume you mean a kohaadmin user with a real patron account, right?
13:15 seneca heh ok - I was trying to figure out if it had something to do with me
13:15 seneca ;)
13:15 seneca no, I mean the message that goes to the librarian for patrons who don't have emails
13:15 cait not the root user
13:15 seneca right
13:16 cait ah ok
13:16 cait and your setting for the autoemail is now correct?
13:16 seneca you mean the triggers, yeah, I think so
13:16 seneca but I'm trying all of this manually for now
13:16 pastebot "nengard" at pasted "looking for report help (jcamins or cait - my report gurus are you around?)" (4 lines) at
13:16 seneca I can runthe overdue_notices script and it populates the message_queue in the db
13:17 seneca then when I run the process_message_queue script, all of the "pending" messages "fail" except the one that actually has something in the to_address field
13:17 seneca which is why I thought that was the problem
13:18 seneca I don't see anything in the mail.log about the failed messages either
13:18 cait no
13:18 cait i don't mean the triggers
13:18 cait I meant the system preference i told you about (or kf did)
13:19 cait autoemailprimaryaddress I think
13:19 seneca crud - I've got to run. If anyone has an idea I should investigate, email me at
13:19 seneca what is automailprimaryaddress?
13:20 cait ah system preference that tells the script which email to use
13:21 seneca I'm not quite understanding
13:21 seneca to use for the from_address or is this for each patron, to be used in the to_address?
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13:26 cait the to address
13:27 cait there are different email addresses in patron accounts
13:27 cait it tells the script which is the one that should be used
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13:27 cait AutoEmailPrimaryAddress
13:28 oleonard Anyone have a good bug for signoff? I don't have much time today, but I'd hate to miss out
13:28 cait not sure
13:28 cait the easy ones are probably all gone
13:28 jcamins oleonard: matts had an awesome bug.
13:29 jcamins Bug 7400.
13:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7400 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add auto-completion on auth_finder
13:29 oleonard Hmmm... if I have any authorities...
13:29 * oleonard could use some authorities sample data
13:30 nengard looking for report help - jcamins or cait - my report gurus can you help?
13:31 cait sorry, I don't have any accessible right now :(
13:32 seneca_away Oh! Where is AutoEmailPrimaryAddress kept? In the db or in a conf file?
13:32 cait it's a system preference
13:32 seneca_away nevermindm just found it in the staff client. :)
13:32 cait don't get confused if you find it grouped with another pref
13:32 seneca_away thanks!
13:32 cait thedescription is not right there
13:33 seneca_away I found it with AutoEmailOpacUser
13:33 seneca_away and the description seems to have something to do with sending an email to newly created patrons
13:33 cait it's wrong
13:33 cait listen to me in this case  :)
13:33 cait both are independent
13:33 seneca_away If I leave that as :don't send" but change the "email address", it'll still do what I want it to?
13:33 seneca_away cool
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13:33 cait yep
13:34 seneca_away I have learned to always listen to those in this channel ;)
13:34 cait make it first valid or the field you use in the patron records
13:34 cait and sorry, I got this question before this week
13:34 cait perhaps confused you :)
13:34 seneca_away got it
13:35 seneca_away but, even with this set, it won't fill in the to_address in the message_queue table, right?
13:35 cait hope they send now .)
13:35 cait no
13:35 seneca_away so I shouldn't verify witht hat
13:35 cait there is a bug for it
13:35 cait that it should fill them
13:35 cait after sending
13:35 cait but at the moment it doesn't afaik
13:35 seneca_away If the don't fail, then it worked. :)
13:35 seneca_away Thanks for all the help!
13:35 cait yep
13:35 seneca_away I'll report back
13:35 cait cool
13:35 cait good luck
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13:50 oleonard good morning sekjal
13:50 sekjal morning, oleonard
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13:51 francharb hey all
13:51 cait hey again francharb :)
13:51 cait morning sekjal
13:51 francharb i 've got a question about circulation rule
13:51 francharb morning sekjal
13:51 sekjal mornin', cait
13:51 sekjal morning, francharb
13:51 jcamins Morning sekjal.
13:51 sekjal morning, jcamins
13:52 francharb cait, do you know why we have to set up a " default library / default category code / default item type" with the smart rules?
13:53 cait I don't know exactly why
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13:53 cait only that you need it to avoid the cofusing hold error message
13:53 jcamins 2500 records linked.
13:53 cait so it seems like a workaround for a bug
13:53 cait how long did it take?
13:53 francharb because, i'm with asaurat and the code didnt tell us where the test is done
13:54 cait ah
13:54 francharb the test on this rule
13:54 cait there is also a bug for circ rules
13:54 cait perhaps this would solve it - not sure
13:54 jcamins cait: long time. Half hour. I have to see if I can make it more efficient.
13:54 cait bug 4530
13:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4530 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific
13:54 francharb cait, it's maybe the same thing
13:54 cait not sure it's related but might touch the same area of code
13:54 cait and the default values
13:55 jcamins cait: the caching makes it much faster than it was, though. :)
13:55 cait cool :)
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13:57 francharb cait, i'm going to report this default thing
13:57 francharb and we will see later if we have to link these two bugs to each other
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14:00 cait brb
14:01 jcamins Time to head into the city.
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14:03 francharb cait, oupps, i thinks i'm going to tests this patch[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5872
14:03 huginn Bug 5872: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Enhancements to circulation (see comment 23 for details)
14:03 francharb before reportaing anything
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14:13 schuster bug 5668
14:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , Star ratings in the opac
14:13 cait hi schuster :)
14:14 schuster Hey all...  I was just thinking about this "enhancement" this morning and wondered the status...  Unfortunately it is beyond my understanding...  at this point!
14:15 oleonard schuster: The status is what the "patch status" says: Failed QA. That means the submitter needs to go back and fix something.
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14:17 maximep good morning everyone =)
14:19 schuster It would be great to get it into 3.8...  Student comments are problematic, but star ratings might not be too bad...  I was hopeful in creating some interest in this feature again... :)
14:22 oleonard I don't think anyone is going to go over the patch submitter's head and try to fix it. You'll have to bug mtj I think
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14:31 schuster hee hee hee...  ok thanks!
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14:35 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7412] Pre-filling items in cataloguing <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7412>
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14:44 skushner I'm installing git koha and getting this error, " Syntax error on line 230 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 32 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha: Expected </cql2rpn>/root/koha-dev/etc/ze​bradb/</cql2rpn> but saw </server>". Do I have to run and re-index zebra in order to start apache? thanks, as always..
14:45 magnuse skushner: i don't think reindexing will help there - it looks a syntax error in some config file
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14:45 magnuse in fact that looks kind of familiar, but i can't remember where i have seen it or if there was a solution...
14:47 magnuse skushner: what's on line 32 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha ?
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14:51 skushner </server>
14:52 maximep maybe the cql2rpn tag isn't closed properly ?
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14:53 libsysguy o/
14:53 magnuse i don't think cql2rpn should be in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha ?
14:53 magnuse you didn't link koha-conf.xml as /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha by any chance?
14:54 magnuse in stead of koha-httpd.conf
14:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7412] Pre-filling items in cataloguing <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7412>
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15:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 3651 Follow-up, Require patron login to send shelves and baskets <[…]425ccaaefd3809897> / Bug 7220 - Add IDs to check-in message dialogs to facilitate CSS customization <[…]1fdaa02c835067e70> / Fix for Bug 7194 - OPAC detail and recent comments pages corr
15:01 skushner Found the problem..thanks..
15:02 skushner Yes, magnuse..that's what happened..must have been tired
15:04 magnuse hehe, it happens ;-)
15:06 cait enthusiasm++
15:06 cait :)
15:07 skushner Yes, now getting apache forbidden 403, however..oh well.such is life
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15:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #583 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:16 cait yay!
15:17 francharb see ya
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15:21 schuster Off to work on another project in cataloging with authorities...  squash away!
15:21 schuster not related to Koha...
15:22 jcamins schuster: ooh, authorities.
15:26 schuster I am very curious about the project you are working on jcamins...  one of the reasons we selected Koha was because it had an authority file.  I didn't realize at the time how unusable it was at the time.
15:26 jcamins schuster: you saw my description in bug 7284?
15:26 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Authority matching algorithm improvements
15:27 jcamins The results are *very* promising, so far.
15:28 jcamins schuster: basically that project gets authority linking working.
15:29 schuster Yes - I'm still looking forward to the day in which see/see also references will be searched and displayed so you can select the See reference to access the books linked.
15:29 jcamins It does not implement heading flipping, or searching the catalogue with See/See-also, but it's the necessary first step to get those working.
15:29 cait hm I thik that might not be related to the work jcamins is doing
15:29 schuster We had a project in Texas schools linking authority records with see references to our state Educational standards, but in Koha they hardly work.
15:29 schuster I understand it isn't related to the work, but is a first step maybe...
15:30 jcamins cait: well, it's related in that without the fix for bug 7284, there's little to no hope of the see/see also references being usable.
15:30 jcamins (in catalogue searching)
15:30 schuster big smile yes catalog search... ;)
15:30 cait jcamins: ok :)
15:30 jcamins Once I've finished bug 7284, I'm going to propose fixing that part.
15:31 magnuse jcamins++
15:31 schuster OOOOO.... exciting! jcamins++++
15:31 jcamins Though my current clients don't care about that so much, so I'll be looking for more funding (hint hint;).
15:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6374: default value for Size in result pages <[…]8bbb2026aa4991f81>
15:31 schuster ok back to my other authorities project non Koha.
15:33 maximep sekjal: wow, that was a quick fix!
15:34 cait jcamins++ :)
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15:39 sekjal maximep: for bug 7016?
15:39 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7016 major, P1 - high, ---, ian.walls, NEW , CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily
15:39 maximep yup
15:39 sekjal I broke it, so I felt bad
15:39 maximep sekjal++
15:39 maximep haha
15:39 maximep took me quite a while to find the problem, but it's alright
15:39 maximep it happens =)
15:59 trea what's the "object" field in the log viewer refer to?
15:59 jcamins trea: What time of object, I think. bib/item/etc.
15:59 trea what time of object? or type?
15:59 jcamins *type
16:01 jcamins At least I managed to spell "etc" correctly. :)
16:02 jcamins trea: yeah, I just checked. That's the reference to the bib/item/etc.
16:03 trea k that was my suspicion, but wanted to verify
16:07 cait jcamins++
16:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #583: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/583/
16:07 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7394 : Fixing scoping issue with XSLT processing. Also bailing out early for 404 inestead of doing unnessecary processing
16:07 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3184: Show creator and budget on order receive page
16:07 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5369: se queries with paranthesis fail
16:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 5369: Make series tracings use phrase indexes
16:07 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5369: Follow up fixing quotes
16:07 jenkins_koha * duncan: Bug 6627 [Signed Off] - Update to improve security in specified log files - bug 6627
16:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7394 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Broken detail page for last link from result page
16:07 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 6627 follow-up
16:07 jenkins_koha * christophe.croullebois: Bug 6147 : Correcting invalid RSS
16:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3184 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Show creator and budget receiving a document
16:07 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: Bug 7337 - Followup - Correcting instances of "debar" that crept back in.
16:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7337 - "Debarred Until" display in the opac tells patrons they are debarred until the year 9999
16:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5369 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , se queries with paranthesis fail
16:07 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 7338 Links on Serial Collection page
16:07 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7338: Follow up: show link only when there is more than 1 subscription
16:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6627 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , [security] insecure file creation
16:07 jenkins_koha * duncan: Bug 7341 - [SIGNED-OFF] Patch to fix error produced when clicking cancel in system preferences search results - bug 7341
16:07 jenkins_koha * duncan: Fix to make date obviously editable - bug 7193
16:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6147 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Reading RSS feeds via Netvibes
16:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7337 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , "Debarred Until" display in the opac tells patrons they are debarred until the year 9999
16:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7194 - OPAC detail and recent comments pages corrections for XHTML validity
16:07 jenkins_koha * chrish: Bug 7220 - Add IDs to check-in message dialogs to facilitate CSS customization
16:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7338 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , link to serial detail wrong
16:08 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 3651 Follow-up, Require patron login to send shelves and baskets
16:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #584 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7341 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Clicking cancel on system preferences search results causes error
16:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7193 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, duncan, ASSIGNED , can't remove end date from subscriptions
16:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7194 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , OPAC detail and recent comments pages require corrections for XHTML validity
16:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7220 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chrish, ASSIGNED , Add IDs to check-in message dialogs to facilitate CSS customization
16:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3651 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Require patron login to send shelves and baskets
16:09 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5339] Parcel closing in acq <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339>
16:11 magnuse 54 bugs need signoff - it was 53 this morning...
16:11 magnuse my head stopped working, i'm off to make pizza!
16:11 magnuse have fun, #koha!
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16:12 cait have fun magnus_afk :)
16:12 jcamins Mmm.
16:12 jcamins Pizza.
16:12 jcamins It _is_ pizza Friday, isn't it?
16:12 magnus_afk it is!
16:12 jcamins Mmm.
16:12 jcamins Pizza.
16:12 magnus_afk friday is always pizza friday (ell, almost always, anyway...)
16:13 jcamins I think we need to have some pizza this Friday too.
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16:13 magnus_afk yay! ;-)
16:13 schuster Cool can I get peperoni and mushroom - large...
16:13 maximep pizza sure sounds good right now
16:13 magnus_afk virtual pizza for anyone who signs off a patch!
16:16 * jcamins would prefer real pizza.
16:16 reiveune bye
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16:22 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:22 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0�C (5:00 PM CET on January 06, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
16:23 asaurat bye !
16:23 cait have a nice weekend asaurat
16:23 cait :)
16:23 asaurat thx, same to you all :)
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16:30 christophe_c happy WE all
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16:36 cait ok
16:36 cait I am invited to a party - bye all :)
16:37 cait and nice weekend of course :)
16:37 jcamins cait: #koha is always a party!
16:37 cait :)
16:37 maximep cya, have a nice WE
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16:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7077, follow-up <[…]3cfc25105f3719cd0> / Fix for Bug 7077 - Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode... <[…]f86256f15581698be> / Bug 6190: BorrowerUnwantedField syspref and removing fields from the patron entry <http://git.koha-comm
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17:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #584: SUCCESS in 52 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/584/
17:00 jenkins_koha adrien.saurat: Bug 6374: default value for Size in result pages
17:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6374 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there)
17:00 jenkins_koha Starting build #585 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:06 * oleonard cheers for Bug 7077
17:06 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7077 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field on circulation page
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17:51 edveal Does anyone know if there is a simple way to align the search boxes on the Advanced Search page?
17:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #585: SUCCESS in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/585/
17:54 jenkins_koha * srdjan: Bug 6190: BorrowerUnwantedField syspref and removing fields from the patron entry
17:54 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 7077 - Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field
17:54 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7077, follow-up
17:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6190 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Custom field removal from patron entry screens
17:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7077 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add system pref to control behavior of submitting empty barcode field on circulation page
17:54 oleonard align how edveal?
17:58 edveal Because the second and third options have "And" in front of them the first feild is shorter...
18:00 rangi buy people a glass of "zomg there's actually real things to care about" juice ?
18:01 oleonard :)
18:02 jcamins Someone should add that as a quote.
18:02 jcamins @quote get 23
18:02 huginn jcamins: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009)
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18:03 jcamins @quote add "rangi: buy people a glass of "zomg there's actually real things to care about" juice?"
18:03 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.  Quote #176 added.
18:03 jcamins @quote get 176
18:03 huginn jcamins: Quote #176: "rangi: buy people a glass of  zomg there's actually real things to care about" juice?"" (added by jcamins at 06:02 PM, January 06, 2012)
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18:07 seneca_away Good afternoon, everyone - or whatever it is where you are.
18:07 seneca_away is now known as seneca
18:08 seneca Can anyone tell me why my overdue notices are being regenerated when they've already been queued and sent before?
18:09 seneca Everytime I run, it creates a pending row in message_queue - is that supposed to happen?
18:09 seneca I guess I'm not sure on what it's supposed to do... :)
18:10 sekjal seneca:  are you overdue triggers set up?
18:13 seneca I caught everyone at lunch, didn't I... ;)
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18:25 seneca Nevermind, I can read the help, really I can.
18:28 maximep well it's the weekend for most already hehe
18:29 seneca Yeah, that's it...
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18:46 trea anyone recall seeing a bug that would cause frombranch to display thusly:
18:48 jcamins trea: it's jQuery.
18:48 trea jquery? how?
18:48 wizzyrea in the database?
18:48 trea it's a sql query
18:48 jcamins trea: that particular library has some jQuery.
18:48 jcamins That messes with the holds code input.
18:49 wizzyrea hmm
18:49 wizzyrea nope, I've seen this particular thing too
18:49 wizzyrea and I don't have any jquery
18:50 wizzyrea that would do a transform from TONGANOXIE to Tonganoxie
18:50 trea only thing in the intranetuser on this system is $("#menu ul li a:contains('ISBD')").text("Full Description");
18:50 jcamins Hm. Apparently it's not jQuery, then.
18:50 wizzyrea :)
18:50 jcamins They had this problem before and we tracked it down to unauthorized jQuery-messing-with.
18:50 trea mmm
18:51 sekjal trea: is the incoming item data not in all caps, if it's being imported from some external source?
18:51 wizzyrea naw, this is in branchtransfers
18:52 wizzyrea and some are right
18:52 wizzyrea and some are wrong
18:52 wizzyrea for example
18:53 wizzyrea you can have a transfer frombranch = Tonganoxie tobranch= Tonganoxie
18:53 wizzyrea and the next one can be frombranch=TONGANOXIE tobranch=OSAWATOMIE
18:53 wizzyrea that's a bad example, because you'd never transit intralibrary
18:53 sekjal wizzyrea:  is it screwing up the capitalization consistently for any given itemnumber?
18:53 rangi does feel like something clientside then
18:54 wizzyrea nope
18:54 rangi or that, bad data in the items table
18:54 sekjal ^^
18:54 rangi if its not consistent
18:54 wizzyrea or they are transiting from 2 different processes
18:56 rangi its only either returns, or a manual transfer eh?
18:56 wizzyrea ok, so yea, we're looking at one that has a Studly Caps in the homebranch
18:56 wizzyrea on the itme
18:56 wizzyrea item
18:57 rangi yeah they should all have that
18:58 rangi all branches in items.holdingbranch and items.homebranch should be in caps
18:58 wizzyrea but 1. how did i get that way if you did "add item" and 2. why is the From branch Studly Caps too?
18:58 rangi it should be in caps
18:58 rangi branchcodes should be in caps
18:58 wizzyrea right
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18:58 sekjal question is, where are they getting 'uncapped'
18:59 rangi yes
18:59 wizzyrea yea, that's what I'm wondering
18:59 sekjal is it bad data entry?
18:59 sekjal or is something using the description instead of the code somewhere
18:59 wizzyrea i'm not sure, I"ve seen this at NEKLS too, but not lately
18:59 wizzyrea so it's possible that it got fixed in the meantime
18:59 sekjal it's rare
18:59 sekjal but we've seen it with one particular library now 3 times
19:00 wizzyrea and NEKLS has seen it, but we could never isolate why it happened.
19:01 rangi i think it might be wrong transfers
19:01 rangi ie
19:01 rangi if ( $messages->{'WrongTransfer'} and not $messages->{'WasTransfered'}) {                                                     $messages->{'WrongTransfer'} = GetBranchName( $messages->{'WrongTransfer'} );
19:02 sekjal oh ho
19:02 rangi TransferWaitingAt => $messages->{'WrongTransfer'},
19:02 rangi but would have to check the tt
19:02 rangi cos what it sets gets used here i think
19:02 rangi if ($query->param('WT-itemNumber')){                                                                                          updateWrongTransfer ($query->param('WT-itemNumber'),$query->para​m('WT-waitingAt'),$query->param('WT-From'));
19:03 rangi }
19:03 rangi but this is just from a quick code read, not actaully checking
19:04 trea mmm, wrongtransfer would show up in the comments field?
19:04 rangi who knows
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19:05 trea actually, yes. but in this particular case they both show a null comment
19:06 rangi then im leaning back to client side, or bad data
19:08 skushner hi, i am getting an error message from koha git install..".koha apache2 forbidden 403 error File does not exist: /etc/apache2/htdocs"...Does git install not create /usr/share/koha/....htdocs file? Is this why I'm getting the 403 error? It seems to be related to the git install and apache path or rights, somehow....anyone? thanks
19:09 wizzyrea wrongtransfer would show up in the comments field :)
19:10 rangi skushner: no it doesnt
19:10 rangi but thats not /etc/apache2/htdocs anway
19:10 rangi it does create a koha-httpd.conf if whereever you told it to when you chose the dir and dev install
19:11 rangi which you then need to link into /etc/apcahe2/sites-enabled/
19:12 skushner How do you link to sites-enabled?
19:13 skushner i set symlink to sites-available
19:13 rangi[…](Git_Method)#Koha
19:14 rangi did you do this bit
19:14 rangi sudo a2ensite koha
19:14 rangi assuming your link is called koha
19:15 skushner Yes
19:16 rangi and disabled the default? which might be getting in the way?
19:16 skushner deleted it
19:16 rangi either way nothing should be pointing at /etc/apache2/htdocs
19:16 rangi which is what the 403 is complaining about
19:16 skushner yes, and in error log
19:16 rangi so you might need to check you copied/linked the write koha-httpd.conf
19:17 rangi right even
19:17 rangi and then check if its indeed correct
19:17 skushner do i link to sites-available or sites-enabled?
19:18 skushner i linked to ln -s /root/koha-dev/etc/koha-httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha
19:18 rangi sites-available is fine
19:19 rangi because the a2ensite then links it to sites-enabled
19:19 skushner right
19:19 rangi look at the file in sites-enabled
19:19 rangi thats what is actually run
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19:20 trea make sure you're shift-refreshing your browser after making these changes; i've spun my wheels longer than i care to admit simply by virtue of not getting a fresh page load.
19:21 skushner right, nothing is pointing to htdocs in .conf file, but still getting 403, and apache log complaining about missing htdocs file
19:22 rangi maybe its in apache.conf itself
19:23 rangi apache2.conf even
19:23 rangi i havent run into this one before, wonder if running the install as root has made a mess somewhere
19:24 skushner i did run as root
19:24 rangi yep thats what i mean
19:24 rangi maybe that messed up permissions
19:25 wizzyrea oh yea, that would do it
19:25 rangi but either way, koha doesnt depend on /etc/apache2/htdocs
19:25 rangi so something else is unhappy about that
19:25 skushner right, but apache is looking for it
19:25 wizzyrea what all is in your sites-available?
19:26 wizzyrea and sites-enabled for that matter
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19:29 skushner they say something about adding this in apache config <Directory />  Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None  Order deny,allow allow from all </Directory>
19:30 skushner
19:31 wizzyrea but what about the other files in sites-enabled and sites-available
19:31 wizzyrea is koha the only one?
19:35 skushner yes
19:35 skushner what other files? you mean default and 000-default-ssl...???
19:36 wizzyrea yes, those
19:36 wizzyrea you ahve those in sites-enabled too? (or links to them)
19:36 skushner i usually delete those..never had a problem..but this is my first git install
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19:46 wizzyrea skushner: did you a2dissite default AND delete it?
19:47 skushner no
19:48 trea so in that case you'd need to run:
19:48 trea a2dissite default
19:48 trea apache2ctl restart
19:49 skushner they've been deleted
19:49 skushner how do you completely remove apache then?
19:49 skushner rm -r /etc/apache2....???
19:49 wizzyrea !
19:50 trea um, why on earth would you do that
19:50 wizzyrea that's kind of the nuclear option ^.^
19:50 skushner yea..i know
19:51 skushner The thing is, if I install koha from the tarball, I don't have these just seemed to crop up with the git install....
19:52 wizzyrea i haven't ever had that problem - did you follow the install instructions?
19:52 skushner yes
19:52 trea what's the name of the file that you're referring to?
19:52 wizzyrea except that you installed as root?
19:52 skushner which instructions..there are lots of instructions...
19:52 skushner ????
19:52 skushner yes
19:53 wizzyrea what's your OS?
19:53 wizzyrea debian?
19:53 wahanui it has been said that debian is what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that
19:53 skushner debian 32 bit
19:53 skushner squeeze
19:53 wizzyrea so install.debian should have been what you followed
19:55 trea
19:55 skushner[…]n_Squeeze_via_GIT
19:56 trea the above link might be more up to date skushner
19:57 skushner This was another...[…]eeze_(Git_Method)
19:58 skushner I guess I'll pave my server and use josh's install.debian again. is that best for git?
19:58 wizzyrea it's kept up to date, unlike the wiki
19:58 skushner ohhhhhh...ah so.....did not know that.
19:58 wizzyrea :)
19:59 skushner thx :0
19:59 skushner do i have to install as sudo..?
20:00 wizzyrea it works either way
20:00 skushner cool
20:00 skushner thanks again..++
20:00 mle @karma
20:00 huginn mle: Highest karma: "rangi" (497), "oleonard" (413), and "wizzyrea" (275).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-108), "failed" (-70), and "-" (-38).  You (mle) are ranked 126 out of 1896.
20:00 mle @karma help
20:00 huginn mle: help has neutral karma.
20:01 * mle faceplams
20:01 wizzyrea help++
20:01 wizzyrea feel better?
20:01 wizzyrea :)
20:01 mle : )
20:02 mle i wanted to invite huggin to a new chan
20:02 mle but it ignored me
20:02 wizzyrea hehe
20:02 wizzyrea he's picky about his friends.
20:02 * wizzyrea giggles
20:03 wizzyrea just kiddin.
20:03 trea you have to speak bocce
20:03 wizzyrea trea?
20:03 wahanui The support in the darkness. The watcher of the tickets. The fire that keeps partners happy, the light that brings code updates, the horn that wakes the devs, the shield that guards the realms of nerds.
20:03 wizzyrea hehhee
20:03 mle I can only speack bocce whan I am drunk
20:04 wizzyrea I like you.
20:04 wizzyrea :D
20:04 trea hat tip to you, good sir
20:04 * mle passes out the virtual pizza
20:05 * wizzyrea gets the beer.
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20:06 wizzyrea magnuse++
20:07 wizzyrea (thanks for signing off on #1 of 7388)
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20:44 magnus_afk yay!
20:45 magnus_afk ...he said and wandered off again
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20:45 jcamins_away Pizza!
20:45 jcamins_away ... he said and wandered off to make it so.
20:56 ebegin nengard, let me know if the numbering pattern that I suggest in the email works as expected ;)
20:58 trea is now known as trea-away
20:58 * rangi reaches final straw
20:59 jcamins_away Wow.
20:59 jcamins_away Read the damn bug.
20:59 rangi yeah
20:59 rangi and the pod
21:00 jcamins_away And, you know, don't do anything major on a production system.
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21:01 wizzyrea take a backup?
21:05 jcamins_away I _knew_ Windows was responsible for killing my computer when I ran it at 200% CPU for forty-five minutes.
21:06 jcamins_away :)
21:08 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
21:08 jcamins I need to make the linker more efficient.
21:08 jcamins Does anyone have a good intro to nytprof?
21:09 jcamins (I'm reading the POD, but before I try what it suggests, I wanted to make sure that no one has a preferred guide)
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21:24 * rangi puts away the trollfood and goes to enjoy weekend instead
21:25 jcamins Very wise.
21:25 * jcamins is in a bad mood today.
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21:33 jcamins (to clarify, the bad mood had nothing to do with that message, it just explains why I responded)
21:43 wizzyrea hmm
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22:03 jcamins I don't suppose anyone knows of any ways to speed up Zebra?
22:04 * wizzyrea gets out the snark
22:04 wizzyrea use solr
22:04 wizzyrea </snark>
22:04 jcamins lol
22:04 wizzyrea (no_
22:04 wizzyrea )
22:04 jcamins How much faster is solr?
22:06 jcamins Ooh! Found an optimization!
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22:19 jcamins Nice! Cut down on calls to resultset_record from 1357 to 605!
22:19 librarygeekadam good day, I am installing Koha 3.06.02 on Ubuntu 11.10 and I am receiving the "libyaz3 = (none)" message along with "libyaz3-dev = (none)" Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
22:20 jcamins I've never seen any message like that, but I'd try `sudo apt-get install libyaz3 libyaz3-dev`
22:21 sekjal jcamins:  oooh, sounds like a good optimizations
22:21 librarygeekadam i did try that and it tells me for libyaz3-dev that "is not available but is referred t o by another package...however the folling packages replace it: libyaz4-dev"
22:22 librarygeekadam I had this problem the last time I did the installation for 3.6.0 but I cannot remember how I fixed it
22:22 jcamins librarygeekadam: weird. Maybe try install libyaz4-dev?
22:22 * jcamins is totally making this up as he goes along.
22:23 jcamins sekjal: yeah, and I can do even more by not just skipping the counting but skipping *all* the metadata.
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22:27 wizzyrea must have worked?
22:27 jcamins Or he accidentally closed the window. ;)
22:30 jcamins Nice!
22:31 pastebot "jcamins" at pasted "sekjal: Summary of improvements" (3 lines) at
22:32 jcamins Now if only there were a faster alternative for GetMarcBiblio.
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22:36 jcamins And a way to cut down on calls to MARC::Record::Field in inner loops.
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22:37 * cait waves
22:38 * jcamins waves back.
22:38 jcamins Actually, never mind that last bit. I did cut down on calls to MARC::Record::field.
22:43 jcamins sekjal: if you're interested, the last commit shows what I did.
22:43 sekjal jcamins: which commit?
22:43 wahanui well, which commit is it?
22:44 jcamins sekjal:
22:45 sekjal looks good
22:46 jcamins Still slow, but might not take a gazillion years.
22:47 rangi can u batch it?
22:48 jcamins Batvh what?
22:48 rangi ie is runnable incementally
22:48 jcamins Yeah.
22:48 rangi or does it has to complete?
22:48 jcamins That's what I'm doing.
22:48 rangi and is it runnable in parallel?
22:48 jcamins I'm just *very* impatient.
22:48 jcamins Ooooooohhhh...
22:49 rangi :)
22:49 jcamins I don't know.
22:49 jcamins Should be.
22:49 rangi I think that might be something to look at
22:50 rangi even if it was just a fork
22:50 rangi with an option to tell it how many to fork
22:51 rangi course I just like playing with parallel stuff
22:51 rangi so feel free to ignore me
22:52 cait :)
22:52 cait I was reading about fork this morning
22:52 cait yay
22:52 * cait has an idea what you are talking about
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22:54 rangi heheh
22:54 rangi cool
22:56 jcamins Of course, it does seem to be using ~95% CPU.
22:57 rangi hmm only 1 cpu/core?
22:57 rangi if so yeah, wont help
22:57 jcamins VirtualBox.
22:57 wahanui virtualbox is good for that sort of thing
22:58 jcamins wahanui: well, kind of.
22:58 wahanui jcamins: excuse me?
22:59 rangi are their any repitive taks that return the same?
22:59 rangi like get the framework?
22:59 rangi memoize
23:00 rangi without memcached in this case
23:00 rangi because a long running script
23:00 rangi will speed those up
23:01 jcamins Hm, looks like we manage to call just about everything.
23:01 rangi heh
23:01 jcamins Including C4::ClassSource::GetClassSort.
23:01 jcamins What does that even do?
23:01 rangi heh dunno
23:01 rangi how long does it take?
23:01 jcamins Classification sources.
23:01 jcamins Not long.
23:02 jcamins Just a few dozen milliseconds.
23:02 jcamins It just caught my eye as something I'd never heard of.
23:03 rangi right
23:03 rangi anything that runs more than once and is slow (obviously duh me)
23:03 jcamins Right.
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23:04 jcamins At this point XML parsing and ZOOM take up most of the time, I think.
23:05 jcamins And SearchAuthorities.
23:05 jcamins That still sucks.
23:06 rangi ahh
23:06 jcamins Yikes!
23:06 rangi its parsing a diff record each time?
23:06 jcamins s/ really sucks, doesn't it?
23:06 jcamins Yup.
23:07 jcamins There must be a better way to express $query=~/\S+/
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23:07 cait jcamins++ and rangi++ :)
23:07 rangi hm whats it doing that for?
23:08 jcamins Uhhh... to make sure it's not just blank space?
23:08 * cait sets out a plate of cookies
23:08 jcamins Honestly, I have no idea what the point is.
23:08 jcamins if (defined $query && $query=~/\S+/){
23:08 jcamins $query= $and x $attr_cnt . $query . (defined $q2 ? $q2 : '');
23:10 rangi right so if the query is defined and contains at least one non whitspace char
23:10 rangi i cant imagine that is actually slow
23:11 jcamins It seems convinced that it's a problem. It's in red.
23:12 rangi how many milliseconds does it reckon it takes
23:12 jcamins 26.6.
23:12 jcamins Oh, but that's total, not per call.
23:12 rangi yeah
23:12 jcamins First time using NYTProf.
23:12 rangi no worries :)
23:12 rangi so it gets called a lot
23:13 rangi persumably because we have to construct the search term from scratch each time
23:13 jcamins Right.
23:14 jcamins I wish there were some way to retrieve record ids from Zebra without parsing the entire MARC file.
23:14 rangi im sure there is
23:14 rangi i think ive seen it done with yaz-client
23:14 rangi but i might be dreaming
23:15 jcamins Geez their documentation is poorly organized.
23:16 rangi are we using  Net::Z3950::ZOOM;
23:16 jcamins I think so, yes.
23:16 rangi or just ZOOM
23:16 rangi k
23:16 rangi lemme check
23:17 rangi ahh ZOOM
23:17 rangi cool
23:17 jcamins Wait, no, just ZOOM.
23:17 rangi thats better
23:17 rangi nicer interface
23:17 jcamins Oh, I'm looking at the wrong thing, I think.
23:17 rangi and still thin layer on top of c
23:18 rangi so you get a ResultSet back
23:19 jcamins Right.
23:19 jcamins Then I go through it retrieving each record.
23:19 jcamins But I don't want the record.
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23:21 rangi yep
23:21 rangi but what we do is get the raw one right, then create a MARC::Record object from it?
23:21 rangi and that is the slow bit
23:22 rangi i wonder if using ->render
23:22 rangi No parameters. Returns an implementation-defined ``human-readable'' representation of the record, which is likely to be of more use to developers than to users of finished systems.
23:22 rangi returns something that is regexable
23:23 jcamins Right.
23:23 jcamins And all to retrieve *one* field.
23:23 rangi well it is an indexing engine, not a database
23:23 rangi so thats not super suprising
23:24 jcamins Right.
23:24 jcamins Well, I think I'll call it a night and go eat pizza.
23:24 jcamins Good night, #koha.
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23:35 rangi i wonder
23:35 rangi creating a temp table in mysql using extractvalue
23:36 rangi to get the fields you want, then querying that
23:36 rangi so creating a temporary table at the start of the script that contains the info you need to search
23:36 rangi skip zebra
23:36 rangi dunno if it is feasible, because im not sure what you are searching on and how complex it is
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23:37 rangi can drop the tbale at the end
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23:54 jcamins_away Nah, I need Zebra to do the searching.
23:54 jcamins_away Intriguing idea, though.
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