IRC log for #koha, 2011-12-29

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03:27 AmitG heya bag
03:28 bag heya AmitG
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06:55 cait good morning #koha
07:43 rangi hmm this practice of having master and 3.6.x have the same version numbers makes things confusing
07:44 cait agreed
07:44 rangi like that message now on koha-devel
07:45 rangi I was all what? 3.6.3 doesn't exist yet
07:45 rangi then I realised it was master
07:46 cait I had said that it would make it hard
07:46 cait to help people
07:47 cait because it's confusing
07:47 cait hm, next irc meeting?
07:47 wahanui next irc meeting is probably 14 June 2011 1800 UTC+0
07:48 cait forget next irc meeting
07:48 wahanui cait: I forgot next irc meeting
07:50 rangi both chris_n and I emailed paul about the version numbers, ignored us, hopefully someone else will have more success
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07:53 cait I brought it up on the meeting
07:53 cait when did you mail?
07:54 rangi hmmm couple of months ago?
07:54 cait so before the meeting? meh.
07:57 cait we can only try again I guess.
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07:57 paul_p hello world
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07:59 cait good morning paul_p
07:59 rangi heya paul_p
07:59 rangi @wunder wellington nz
07:59 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0�C (8:00 PM NZDT on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
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08:00 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 3.3�C (8:59 AM CET on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Steady).
08:00 cait morning julian_m
08:00 cait rangi, you win
08:00 julian_m hi cait, hi all
08:00 rangi hi julian_m
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08:05 francharb hi
08:05 asaurat hi
08:05 wahanui privet, asaurat
08:05 AmitG heya cait, rangi, julian_m
08:05 rangi hi asaurat and francharb
08:06 rangi heya AmitG
08:06 cait hi asaurat, francharb and AmitG
08:06 julian_m hi AmitG and rangi
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08:16 gaetan_B hello
08:16 rangi hi gaetan_B and matts
08:17 * cait waves
08:17 matts hello !
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08:49 AmitG heya gaetan_b
08:49 rangi right check that out
08:50 rangi[…]=6948&action=diff
08:50 rangi if that patch goes in
08:51 rangi then in any template
08:51 rangi you can do
08:51 rangi [% USE KohaDates %]
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08:51 rangi [% somedate_from_the_db | $KohaDates %]
08:52 rangi and it will print out in the format specified by the syspref
08:52 cait rangi++
08:52 rangi so dont have to go round formatting them in the scripts
08:52 rangi first of many filter plugins i hope
08:52 rangi no reason we cant do one for currency
08:52 rangi or even
08:53 rangi [% USE KohaXSLT %]
08:53 rangi [% marcxml | $KohaXSLT %]
08:59 * cait confirms it works great
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09:45 magnuse kia ora #koha!
09:45 rangi hi magnuse
09:45 magnuse ata marie rangi
09:46 cait morning magnuse :)
09:46 magnuse rangi: yup, i'm sort of involved in donum
09:46 magnuse i'm on the board, but it's not my initiative
09:46 rangi ahhh
09:47 magnuse and i have been meaning to translate some stuff and send it to the list and the newsletter, by way of introduction
09:47 magnuse but have not gotten around to it yet...
09:47 rangi i hear that
09:47 rangi a round tuit
09:47 rangi everyone needs one
09:47 magnuse hehe
09:48 rangi
09:48 magnuse yeah, i remember it from an earlier discussion ;-)
09:48 rangi :)
09:49 magnuse very clever :-)
09:49 cait can I order a dozen?
09:50 rangi that reminds me of a bad christmas joke
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09:50 cait wb paul_p
09:51 magnuse i'd give one each to eythian and srdjan so they could wrap up you-know-what... ;-)
09:51 magnuse kia ora paul_p!
09:51 paul_p hello cait. My laptop wifi connection is silly today...
09:51 paul_p hello magnuse
09:51 rangi do you know who king wenceslas is magnuse ?
09:52 rangi the joke doesnt work unless you know the song :)
09:53 magnuse well, i have heard the name, but don't know much more than that
09:54 magnuse Wikipedia: "Good King Wenceslas" is a popular Christmas carol about a king who goes out to give alms to a poor peasant on the Feast of Stephen (the second day of Christmas, December 26). During the journey, his page is about to give up the struggle against the cold weather, but is enabled to continue by following the king's footprints, step for step, through the deep snow.
09:54 magnuse
09:54 rangi yep
09:55 rangi so the joke is
09:55 rangi how does King Wenceslas like his pizza?
09:55 rangi Deep pan, crisp and even
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09:56 * magnuse is baffled
09:56 rangi ah
09:56 rangi you need to read the lyrics
09:56 rangi
09:57 rangi 4th line
09:57 magnuse ah! hehe
09:57 rangi
10:02 magnuse mmm, pizza...
10:02 rangi hehe
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10:12 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 929] See details of a budget <[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=929>
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10:37 magnuse heh, that's a fun way to include an image in an email
10:54 cait huh?
10:55 magnuse maybe it was just gmail? recent mail to the list that showed a looong string of hexadecimal or whatchamancallit
11:15 cait not sur ewhichmail you refer too
11:15 cait can't see one with attachement
11:16 magnuse cait:[…]ember/031605.html
11:17 cait ah
11:17 magnuse might be gmail playing tricks
11:17 cait html attachementscrubbed
11:17 cait it's not gmail I think, it's the attachement
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11:18 cait yep
11:18 cait saved it as .html and now it shows text and screenshot
11:19 cait she is not using the xslt views
11:19 magnuse ah
11:23 * magnuse had some fun creating a simple munin plugin for koha (running off the packages) last night:[…]lob/master/koha_- it can monitor the number of rows in any table in the db
11:23 magnuse not sure how useful that is...
11:30 cait for checking on the gratis koha? :)
11:34 magnuse yup, and the customers, when i move them to tha packages
11:35 cait oh the link is broken
11:37 magnuse[…]blob/master/koha_
11:37 magnuse shouldn't have the - at the end
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12:51 nengard http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/mailman/listinfo is loading up but I can't get to the koha-docs list to approve a post ? any ideas?
12:51 magnuse heh, norwegian broadcasting did an item on bad eyesight - check out the graphic they chose to illustrate it with:[…]hp?artid=10032833 ;-)
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12:52 cait hm not sure
12:52 cait did they start moving them?
12:53 nengard not sure
12:54 nengard is paul_p around?
12:54 paul_p yep.
12:54 paul_p good morning nengard
12:54 nengard Hiya paul!
12:54 nengard do you know why i can't access the documentation list?
12:54 matts is now known as matts_away
12:54 nengard works, but not the docs list and I have an email to approve
12:55 paul_p nengard, nope, https://lists.koha-community.o[…]istinfo/koha-docs works for me
12:55 paul_p (except I can't login, I don't know the password)
12:55 nengard hmmm
12:55 nengard it keeps timing out for me
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12:56 paul_p https://lists.koha-community.o[…]n/admin/koha-docs works well
12:56 paul_p (do you notice the httpS ?)
12:57 nengard i am clicking the link you're pasting and it's timing out
12:57 nengard and i clicked the link in my email and the link on the page as well
12:57 nengard all time out
12:57 nengard cait can you try it?
12:57 cait times out for me too paul_p
12:57 cait on it :)
12:57 cait it works with http
12:57 paul_p shame on our VPN I think.
12:57 cait but something in the setup seems wrong then
12:57 cait perhaps not move that part over :)
12:58 * paul_p just called lducos to come here, it's our sysadmin
12:59 cait nengard: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]n/admin/koha-docs
12:59 nengard that worked!
12:59 nengard thanks cait
12:59 paul_p does it mean we don't need lducos anymore ?
12:59 paul_p ( nengard &cait ) ?
13:00 nengard i'm not sure what lducos is
13:00 nengard oh your sys admin
13:00 jcamins_away nengard: paul_p's sysadmin.
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13:00 nengard well the http link works
13:00 nengard so the links on the page are wrong, but i can get in
13:01 cait paul_p: who is hiding behind lducos?
13:01 paul_p cait, Laurent Ducos
13:02 nengard okay my password isn't working
13:02 nengard anyone know how i get that reset?
13:02 paul_p nengard, lducos once again ;-)
13:02 nengard hehe
13:02 cait heh
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13:03 cait so we need him :)
13:03 * cait waves at lducos
13:03 nengard hi lducos
13:03 lducos hello koha
13:03 nengard we have a couple issues
13:03 nengard #1 I can't log in to the koha-docs mailing list admin
13:04 paul_p ( URL: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/admin/koha-docs)
13:04 nengard #2 all the links to the mailing lists start with https but time out with https for those of us not at biblibre
13:04 nengard if you go to and click any link they time out
13:05 paul_p lducos, I confirm I can reach the https version, but not nengard or cait. My feeling is that it's a VPN problem. Note that #2 is not a blocker, as the http link work
13:06 nengard true, but when i click links in the admin interface they all go to https so i need to edit the url in the address bar for them all - so it's kinda annoying
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13:16 lducos nengard:  I inform you as soon as I solved this problem
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14:03 * jcamins is very caffeinated.
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14:07 oleonard Hi jcamins, nengard, everyone
14:08 nengard :)
14:11 jcamins Good morning, oleonard.
14:11 paul_p good morning oleonard & jcamins
14:12 * paul_p working on bug 7376
14:12 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7376 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Transfer limits should be checked at check out And when checkin should be overridable.
14:12 paul_p very hard to setup a working sandbox ! (harder than fixing the bug I fear :( )
14:12 jcamins paul_p: once you have a working sandbox, take a snapshot of your data so that it can be used for testing that sort of thing in the future.
14:13 paul_p jcamins, sandbox is a wrong word here. I mean defining parameters
14:13 jcamins Ah.
14:13 paul_p 3 sysprefs, branch_transfer_limits, barcodes, 2 branches, switching branches when issuing/returning,...
14:15 jcamins I agree. Fixing it is going to be much easier than figuring out the configuration.
14:23 magnus_afk lol
14:30 paul_p grrr... it took more than 1 hour to understand that my tests could not work because I had "IndependantBranches ON"...
14:30 jcamins paul_p: ugh. I hate that.
14:30 * cait sends paul_p cookies
14:30 cait I am still stuck on my holds testing
14:30 cait it will not recognize the hold on check-in
14:31 * cait feels with paul_p
14:31 oleonard What are you testing cait?
14:32 cait I was preparing to start testing on allowonshelfholds in circ matrix
14:33 * oleonard is having a problem in our production system with some holds not prompting on check-in
14:34 cait oh
14:34 cait what version are you running?
14:34 cait the only thing I am suspecting right now is that it doesn't work bcaue the hold was done in staff overriding some limit
14:34 cait but it's the only item on the record
14:34 cait and it will and will not prompt
14:36 oleonard We haven't been able to figure out why most prompt just fine but a few don't.
14:39 cait hm
14:39 cait perhaps i managed to create one of those on master?
14:39 cait there were warnings in the logs
14:39 cait but I didn't figure out what was going wrong
14:39 cait will have to look at it again
14:40 cait perhaps with someone helping me to debug
14:43 patric Good morning
14:45 patric Marc research is not really lots of fun, just sayin'
14:45 cait it's marc
14:45 cait patric: what are you trying to do?
14:46 cait @marc 245 a
14:46 huginn cait: Title
14:46 cait @marc 245 b
14:46 huginn cait: Remainder of title
14:46 jcamins patric: I don't think I've ever heard of anyone liking MARC.
14:47 patric I have a plain text export from an old library system, and I'm working with a .net-based conversion tool to turn them into marc recrords for koha
14:47 lducos nengard : it's your email address :   ?
14:47 cait oh
14:48 patric With the log of this place being posted on the web, isn't posting email addresses kinda bad?
14:51 oleonard Depends on your attitude about such things I suppose. But yeah, most people post addresses in private messages.
14:51 oleonard[…]11-12-29#i_854188
14:55 nengard yes that's y email
14:55 nengard that's my email
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14:56 nengard and I don't mind that you posted it - it's all over the web
14:56 patric got it.
14:56 * oleonard would rather trust Gmail's spam filter than make it hard for people to email me
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14:57 patric here's to google's spam filter, they didn't buy postini for nothing
14:58 lducos nengard: ok i send you'r password by mail
14:58 nengard sure, i'm assuming once i'm logged in i can change it?
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15:07 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7376] Transfer limits should be checked at check-in <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7376>
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16:15 oleonard Bug 7383 seems at odds with Bug 4274
16:15 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7383 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , cart name is [Blank] when not logged in
16:15 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4274 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Cart now requires login before emailing contents
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16:25 oleonard ...because Bug 3651 was undone by Bug 4289
16:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3651 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, REOPENED , Require patron login to send shelves and baskets
16:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4289 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a syspref 'OpacPublic', to hide OPAC search-bar and force authentication on all OPAC pages
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16:38 edveal I am trying to build a search form to allow patrons to pull up newest acquisitions by item type. I would rather not reinvent the wheel. Has anyone done that already?
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16:44 oleonard edveal: You can do an advanced search, limit by itemtype, and sort by acquisition date
16:44 * wizzyrea waves
16:45 oleonard Hi wizzyrea
16:45 wizzyrea hiyas
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16:49 edveal But what I am looking for is to build a form that allows the patron to choose the item type or location from a dropdown similar to what is found here[…]koha/
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16:50 wizzyrea a view source on that is pretty instructive
16:53 edveal Yes, I have tried and when I dump it into a page it always call the advance search page. Could that be do to no new acquisitions in my test site?
16:53 wizzyrea hmm, or nothing in those item types
16:53 wizzyrea or a malformed search
16:53 wizzyrea ^^ is more likely
16:54 cait oh old koha
16:54 edveal Yes... It if from an older version.
16:54 wizzyrea so you probably just need to reform the url to reflect the newer search syntax
16:55 cait hlt has new acquisitions as search on the front page:
16:55 wizzyrea nekls used to - now we use a button instead.
16:55 wizzyrea turned out that all people ever wanted was new books and new movies
16:55 wizzyrea the rest they never clicked on
16:55 cait makes sense
16:56 edveal That helped Thanks....
16:56 francharb bye all
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17:15 paul_p RM newsletter #2 is out ;-)
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17:58 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3651] Require patron login to send shelves and baskets <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3651>
17:58 oleonard The nice thing about doing a search sorted by acquisition date rather than with a fixed date range is you always get results
17:58 oleonard If you say "in the last 30 days" and there's no results you have to go back and expand the date range.
17:59 wizzyrea well
18:00 wizzyrea and there's always the argument that acquisitiondate < copyright date
18:01 wizzyrea the argument of "new to you" vs "actually new"
18:01 wizzyrea so - what is your definition of "new"
18:03 oleonard ...and copyright date is a year, period, whereas an acquisition date is a real date.
18:03 wizzyrea yep
18:04 wizzyrea and I don't think you can sort by copyright date
18:04 wizzyrea so you have to do a date limiter.
18:05 oleonard You can sort by "Publication/Copyright Date"
18:06 wizzyrea i stand corrected
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18:06 oleonard But for me it doesn't work. Whatever it's sorting on doesn't seem to be a consistent piece of data in our records
18:07 wizzyrea hm I think I had that issue too
18:10 oleonard[…]rt_by=pubdate_dsc
18:11 oleonard That's supposed to be "newest to oldest," but the first item says 2008
18:11 oleonard I jquery out the pubdate option in our opac
18:12 rangi its from the 003 or 008 or some control field, that it is using, not 260
18:12 rangi so invalid marc records ie 99.999999% of them in the wild
18:12 rangi arent sortable
18:13 wizzyrea ohh
18:13 oleonard Yeah, we got invalid marc records out the wahzoo.
18:14 bag yup it's from the 008 usually
18:14 bag like postions 7through 10
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18:30 * cait is glad union catalog required a four digit pub year in one field
18:31 cait so they have to fill it in and data is nice
18:31 rangi @wunder wellington nz
18:31 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
18:31 rangi light rain my Butt
18:31 cait @wunder Reutlingen
18:31 huginn cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 4.1�C (7:31 PM CET on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Steady).
18:31 bag @wunder 93109
18:31 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.9�C (10:30 AM PST on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady).
18:31 wizzyrea heavy rain then?
18:31 wizzyrea @wunder lawrence ks
18:31 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 10.6�C (12:31 PM CST on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006.3 hPa (Steady).
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18:32 bag oh man rangi I've got the win right now
18:32 bag @wunder 06516
18:32 huginn bag: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 1.1�C (1:30 PM EST on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -11.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Rising).
18:32 magnuse @wunder boo
18:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0�C (7:20 PM CET on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Rising).
18:32 wizzyrea seems warm for bodo in dec
18:32 bag @wunder 94117
18:32 huginn bag: The current temperature in Cole Valley, San Francisco, California is 10.3�C (10:31 AM PST on December 29, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady).
18:33 rangi its not light, not really heavy but not light :)
18:33 * rangi is still proud of the new filter he added for bug 929
18:33 huginn Bug[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=929 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , See details of a budget
18:33 magnuse rangi++
18:34 cait rangi++
18:34 cait is very happy that this feature was added back
18:34 rangi hopefully others will see how to do it and make more
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18:36 rangi I think oleonard will come up with some cool ones
18:36 cait heh
18:36 oleonard Maybe ideas for some cool ones...
18:37 cait I was thinking to try one for currency display
18:37 oleonard But I'm glad you reminded me to take a look at that one to see how you did it
18:37 rangi I might add a caching plugin today so u can cache includes in memcache
18:37 cait :)
18:37 cait yay!
18:37 rangi oleonard: its easy really
18:37 wizzyrea ohh
18:37 rangi at least if that gets pushed it will be
18:38 rangi it does all the groundwork
18:38 cait the last patch has to be signed-off... :)
18:38 rangi when I get to work
18:38 rangi if no one beats me :)
18:39 * cait can't this time
18:51 * jcamins_away is looking forward to the XSLT plugin, too.
18:51 rangi :)
18:53 rangi my stop bbiab
18:54 magnuse did anyone look closer at the option to cache compiled templates?
18:54 cait ok, dinner time
18:54 cait will be back later :)
18:55 ago43 is now known as ago43_lunch
18:56 * jcamins_away hopes rangi is grabbing some breakfast on the way into the office. That would be amusing.
18:57 oleonard ?
18:58 jcamins_away oleonard: cait is having dinner, ago43 is having lunch, all we need is for someone to be having dinner and every meal is being eaten simultaneously in #koha. :)
18:58 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
18:58 oleonard When is tea time?
18:59 cait breakfast ;)
18:59 jcamins oleonard: slef is currently signed in, so it's teatime for someone on #koha. :)
19:00 magnuse wizzyrea: zero is not unusual - normal winter weather here is fluctuations between something like +5 and -5 once or twice a week all through winter
19:00 rangi back
19:01 rangi i did actually
19:01 wizzyrea ooo
19:01 rangi but its up & go
19:01 * magnuse shares a bunch of xmas marzipan with #koha
19:01 wizzyrea yum
19:01 jcamins rangi: good enough.
19:01 jcamins And it's dessert time, too.
19:01 rangi[…]eakfast/up-and-go
19:01 rangi choc ice
19:01 * wizzyrea made chex mix and peanut brittle and spud made ginger snaps
19:02 magnuse "a nutritious liquid breakfast designed for people who live life on the go" ;-)
19:02 rangi magnuse: did you see this[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7385
19:02 huginn Bug 7385: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Enrich OPAC with wikipedia content
19:02 wizzyrea mmmm fiber
19:03 oleonard I thought coffee was already liquid breakfast.
19:03 rangi magnuse: or when its the 3 day week between 2 4 day weekends and no cafes are open
19:03 magnuse rangi: yeah, interesting! but i can't help thinking it will be much more robust if we have some linked data to build it on ;-)
19:03 rangi heh :)
19:04 oleonard For me it's quitting time (early!)
19:04 rangi quitting time at 2pm today here
19:04 oleonard See y'all next time
19:04 wizzyrea nice!!
19:04 * jcamins just got into work.
19:04 rangi well thats when new years beer oclock starts
19:04 wizzyrea bye :)
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19:04 jcamins rangi: on the 30th? Wow, you take New Years beer-ing pretty seriously, don't you? ;)
19:05 wizzyrea 31st there
19:05 wizzyrea oh no
19:05 wizzyrea nm
19:05 * wizzyrea doesn't know what day it is
19:05 jcamins wizzyrea: I noticed.
19:05 jcamins wizzyrea: I hope you didn't tell Spud that it was going to be NYE tomorrow night.
19:05 jcamins ;)
19:06 magnuse hehe
19:06 wizzyrea nope :0
19:06 wizzyrea oh they have vanilla ice up n go
19:06 jcamins Did you tape the ball dropping last year so that you can play it for him at 7, and get him to bed at a reasonable hour?
19:06 jcamins :)
19:06 wizzyrea lol mo
19:07 wizzyrea no
19:07 * magnuse hopes there will be some time to play with[…]i/Linked_Data_RFC in 2012...
19:07 jcamins I guess Jonathan was about six when suddenly the ball dropping was something he *had* to see.
19:08 * wizzyrea soesnt have network tv
19:08 magnuse the ball dropping?
19:08 wizzyrea 1h typing sry
19:08 wizzyrea in nyc
19:09 jcamins wizzyrea: Youtube video from last year? :)
19:10 wizzyrea hehe that's a good idea
19:10 wizzyrea 2h typing again yay
19:11 * jcamins never got the point of the whole thing, actually. I've worked December 31 and/or January 1 since coming back to the States.
19:16 trea is now known as trea-lunch
19:19 rhcl_away jcamins: where from did you come back to the states?
19:20 jcamins rhcl_away: Afghanistan/Russia/Edinburgh/Oxford.
19:20 jcamins (Oxford is the last place I lived before moving to NYC permanently, and Russia is where I was NYE 2008)
19:21 rangi jcamins: for you
19:21 jcamins rangi: thanks. :)
19:22 rhcl_away ah, yes, I see a pattern there
19:22 rhcl_away is now known as rhcl
19:23 rhcl I would think Afghanistan would offer some remarkably spectacular ball drops
19:23 jcamins rhcl: I left Afghanistan Christmas Eve.
19:24 jcamins rhcl: though, honestly, I'm not sure there weren't more explosions in Moscow for NYE.
19:25 jcamins Boy do they like their firecrackers in Moscow.
19:25 rhcl Sometime I'll share my travel stories from Korea, the PI, Cambodia, VN and Thailand
19:26 rhcl you and I obviously circulate in different circles
19:26 rangi i spent news year eve 1997 halfway up nz's tallest mountain, thats still my best one
19:27 rangi this year, ill be asleep by about 11
19:27 rhcl yea, that sounds good to me too!
19:28 ibeardslee it's just an excuse to have a couple of days off work really
19:28 rangi yeah, nice 4 day weekend
19:29 ibeardslee on the plus side, this year there should be no issues with people going camping and wanting a shower
19:29 jcamins ibeardslee: huh?
19:30 ibeardslee it pissing down here
19:30 rangi usually we have water shortages
19:30 ago43_lunch is now known as ago43
19:32 rhcl @wunder nzwn
19:32 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0�C (8:00 AM NZDT on December 30, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
19:32 rhcl hum, takes the location codes
19:33 rangi[…]r/all-new-zealand
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20:27 rangi[…]=6959&action=diff
20:30 magnuse yay
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20:31 cait yay :)
20:31 cait rangi++
20:31 rangi so if there are slow things
20:31 rangi like creating the language lists
20:32 rangi we can make that an include, and cache the rendered html
20:32 rangi etc
20:32 cait very nice
20:32 cait the language list is a great idea too
20:33 * rangi is just laying groundwork, someone else can find the slow bits and set them to be cached
20:33 * magnuse needs to figure out memcached for the server that will be running the packages... ;-)
20:33 rangi the nice thing is, this just works .. if you dont have memcached, you dont notice, if you do, you dont either cept its a bit faster
20:33 magnuse rangi++
20:33 chrisdothall rangi++
20:34 chrisdothall very cool
20:34 cait heya chrisdothall :)
20:34 jcamins rangi++
20:34 chrisdothall cait: morning :)
20:38 cait evening :)
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20:38 chrisdothall heh
20:47 rangi grammar people
20:47 rangi This item must be checked in at its home library.
20:47 * cait doesn't see it
20:48 rangi that rule always annoys me, its the exception to the apostrophe rule to indicate possession
20:49 rangi and that should have been it's :)
20:49 rangi see, annoying!
20:50 * rangi was just translating it to
20:50 rangi This item must be returned to its home library.
20:50 cait so its is right, right?
20:50 cait or
20:51 cait it's?
20:51 * cait is confused now
20:51 rangi its is right in that context
20:52 rangi but when i said its the exception, that should be it's the exception
20:56 liw it's its, or is it? it's possive is itchy, it's icky, it is. that's that, and a hat's hat is a fedora
20:57 rangi lol
20:57 rangi liw++
20:57 * liw bows
20:58 rangi[…]/Dolton-Fig-1.jpg
20:59 rangi its that good finnish education system :)
20:59 rangi it's !
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21:01 rangi[…]upil-performance/  the whole article is pretty interesting actually
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21:06 ibeardslee rangi: do you have a preorder in for hot chips?
21:06 rangi hehe
21:07 rangi had fish and chips last night actually
21:08 ibeardslee I wonder where the closest place that does hot chips to work is
21:08 ibeardslee ... that is open at this time of the year
21:08 rangi hmmm
21:09 rangi the one by the bakery on webb street might be
21:09 ibeardslee hell pizza as well .. although they'll work out pricey
21:09 rangi its owned by a malaysian/chinese family, they are pretty much always open
21:18 jcamins is now known as jcamins_away
21:29 NateC Kebabs?
21:30 NateC mmmmm Abra Kababra.... rangi, think you can DHL some of those my way?
21:30 rangi heh
21:30 wizzyrea kebabs?
21:30 wahanui are so awesomely delicious they will make grown men weep.
21:30 rangi whens the hobbit premiere?
21:30 wizzyrea that's better.
21:31 wizzyrea lol getting that one a lot?
21:31 NateC Hobbit Premier and Kebabs in NZ? The misses and I am so there!
21:32 NateC Customs will ask why im traveling to NZ and I will respond:
21:32 NateC Kebabs
21:32 NateC Hobbits
21:32 rangi hehe
21:32 NateC I like space
21:32 trea lol
21:32 NateC Think they'll let me in??
21:33 rangi and bag can stand in the background and say 'plah, palah, palah'
21:33 rangi that will help
21:33 wizzyrea The hobbit?
21:33 wahanui the hobbit: an unexpected journey will be released 14 December 2012
21:33 NateC but the premier will be before then no?
21:33 wizzyrea most surely
21:34 rangi speaking of bag, i wonder if that grill is set up now
21:34 NateC I would give my left... hand for tickets to that
21:34 wizzyrea gonna say you might need the other thing.
21:35 NateC actually lets make it my big toe instead
21:36 wizzyrea well, you might need both of your hands... for... stuff.
21:36 wizzyrea i hear it's hard to walk with only 4 toes
21:36 rangi they did it december 1
21:36 wizzyrea but doable, that might be your best bet
21:36 rangi for the lotr ones
21:36 NateC Right so its still a good tradeoff
21:36 NateC rangi; that early?
21:37 rangi[…]imageViewsIndex=1
21:37 rangi yep
21:37 rangi well rotk anyway
21:38 NateC nice pic: thats why i dont care if I get into the actual premier or not, as long as im there ill be happeee
21:38 wizzyrea yea exactly
21:38 rangi yeah and it will be on at every theatre in wellington
21:38 wizzyrea hey, I remember that food on willis place
21:38 rangi 24/7
21:38 rangi for 3 weeks or so
21:38 rangi hehe
21:38 wizzyrea[…]hp?g2_itemId=3598
21:38 rangi i think i saw rotk at 1am the first time
21:39 wizzyrea oh you're a regular papparazo
21:39 rangi after watching the other 2 first
21:39 wizzyrea or however you spell it
21:39 rangi stalker i think is the word you are after
21:39 wizzyrea oh right
21:39 wizzyrea "stalker"
21:40 rangi she was cool, used to be a regular on courtenay place
21:40 * wizzyrea imagines rangi skulking about after liv tyler
21:40 wizzyrea and why not
21:40 magnuse and then there is
21:41 rangi[…]hp?g2_itemId=3636 <-- guy in the middle ... one of laurels students
21:41 rangi he now is tilda swintons boytoy
21:42 trea is that a good thing?
21:42 NateC if I got to be an elf in that parade Id be her boy toy
21:42 rangi seems to work out well for the both of them
21:44 rangi i like his art too
21:44 rangi
21:45 wizzyrea ohh yea
21:45 rangi
21:46 rangi NateC: you remember reed eh?
21:46 NateC I do
21:46 rangi
21:46 rangi check that out :)
21:46 wizzyrea hah!
21:46 NateC SICK
21:46 wizzyrea hehe!
21:47 rangi  <-- another ex catalysta
21:48 rangi ohh new newsletter
21:50 * rangi reads
21:52 rangi danielg++
21:54 magnuse danielg++
21:55 cait danielg++
22:01 rangi oh and my christmas card from stephen hedges arrived yesterday, that guy is a legend
22:04 eythian
22:04 wizzyrea hehehe
22:11 magnuse g'night #koha
22:11 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
22:13 rangi cya magnus_away
22:13 cait good night magnuse
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