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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 01:28 |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #137: "sekjal: the data's in there... it's just MARC" (added by cait at 06:40 PM, May 26, 2011) |
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rangi |
yay!!! |
| 01:29 |
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rangi |
thanks gmcharlt |
| 01:30 |
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rangi |
gmcharlt++ |
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druthb |
@quote random |
| 01:34 |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #95: "< robin> to be honest, I think if you mention Koha and Perl, your CV could say your hobbies include puppy-kitten cage-fights, and you'd be snapped up :)" (added by chris at 09:36 PM, October 06, 2010) |
| 01:34 |
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druthb |
we missed huginn! |
| 01:35 |
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gmcharlt |
sorry about that, I did an OS upgrade to that VM, then promptly ran away for Thanksgiving |
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druthb |
:) |
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rangi |
heh no worries |
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jcamins_away |
gmcharlt++ |
| 02:29 |
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jcamins_away |
@quote random |
| 02:29 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Quote #139: "library_systems_guy: I guess I could put (git-bz) in /usr/games because Koha + git = fun times" (added by wizzyrea at 05:55 PM, May 31, 2011) |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins_away |
@quote random |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) |
| 02:50 |
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jcamins_away |
Two quotes from wizzyrea. |
| 02:50 |
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jcamins_away |
@quote random |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Quote #129: "jcamins: take to heart the old saying- 'don't be a git, use git." (added by wizzyrea at 07:01 PM, April 27, 2011) |
| 02:50 |
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jcamins_away |
Three. |
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jcamins_away |
:) |
| 03:06 |
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jcamins_away |
@quote random |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) |
| 03:06 |
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jcamins_away |
@quote random |
| 03:06 |
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huginn |
jcamins_away: Quote #9: "pianohacker ponders drumstick->ear as a method of food acquisition...We haven't gone to this good mexican restaurant in a while..." (added by wizzyrea at 08:23 PM, June 19, 2009) |
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AmitG |
heya rangi |
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kmkale |
Namaskaar #koha |
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eythian |
Is there any way to check out an item that has no barcode? |
| 04:21 |
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eythian |
I can't find a way to do that at all, even a kind of painful, awkward way. |
| 04:29 |
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rangi |
naw no way to do that |
| 04:30 |
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chrisdothall |
should there be a link on the items page like 'checkout this item'? or is such thing not desirable? |
| 04:36 |
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rangi |
that'd be quite cool, as long as controlled by a syspref |
| 04:37 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 04:39 |
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rangi |
I think treasury were keen on that originally, but just barcoded things instead |
| 04:40 |
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eythian |
do you happen to know about the "monthly Te Puna reports" thing? |
| 04:40 |
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eythian |
how do people do that? |
| 04:41 |
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rangi |
hmm nope would have to ask paul or jo or something |
| 04:41 |
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rangi |
probaby just a report |
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| 04:41 |
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rangi |
they all have to do them so there must be a way |
| 04:42 |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
| 04:42 |
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rangi |
hi oak |
| 04:43 |
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Oak |
hello rangi :) |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
yeah, that's what I though |
| 04:43 |
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eythian |
hi Oak |
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Oak |
hello Brave Sir Robin |
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Oak |
:) |
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kmkale |
hi rangi eythian & Oak :) |
| 05:13 |
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eythian |
hello |
| 05:14 |
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Oak |
is this fine, or was Mr. Robin better? |
| 05:14 |
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eythian |
I'm not fussy :) |
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Oak |
heh |
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cait |
morning #koha |
| 05:23 |
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Oak |
Guten Morgen cait |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
| 05:23 |
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Oak |
@wunder KOnstanz |
| 05:23 |
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huginn |
Oak: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0�C (6:00 AM CET on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Falling). |
| 05:23 |
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Oak |
hmm |
| 05:26 |
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kmkale |
hi cait :) |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
hi kmkale :) |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
and thx for the weather report Oak :) |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
@wunder Islamabad |
| 05:26 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 15.0�C (10:00 AM PKT on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:26 |
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eythian |
hi cait |
| 05:26 |
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Oak |
oh certainly, no problem :) |
| 05:26 |
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Oak |
ah danke |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
hi eythian - still at work? |
| 05:26 |
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eythian |
yep, but it's still early for me |
| 05:28 |
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cait |
for me too |
| 06:03 |
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AmitG |
heya cait |
| 06:03 |
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AmitG |
heya kmkale :D |
| 06:03 |
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AmitG |
heya Robin |
| 06:03 |
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eythian |
howdy |
| 06:03 |
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wahanui |
niihau, eythian |
| 06:12 |
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cait |
hi AmitG :) |
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kmkale |
hi AmitG |
| 06:19 |
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kmkale |
hi indradg|Zzzzz |
| 06:20 |
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indradg|Zzzzz is now known as indradg |
| 06:21 |
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indradg |
hi kmkale finally /me woke up |
| 06:21 |
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indradg |
:) |
| 06:29 |
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AmitG |
heya indradg |
| 06:30 |
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kmkale |
sorry to wake you up indradg ;) |
| 06:36 |
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indradg |
kmkale, :) |
| 06:36 |
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indradg |
AmitG, hey |
| 07:22 |
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rangi |
hmm |
| 07:22 |
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cait |
morning rangi |
| 07:22 |
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cait |
hm or evening |
| 07:23 |
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rangi |
bug 6628 |
| 07:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6628 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , [security] help system use insecure REFERRER for file inclusion |
| 07:24 |
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rangi |
can i get a sign off on that from someone today I wonder |
| 07:24 |
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cait |
ah |
| 07:24 |
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cait |
had not seen the semarie did another patch |
| 07:24 |
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cait |
only saw his comment |
| 07:25 |
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rangi |
yeah i dont feel i should sign off, because its close to my original, probably better if someone else tests |
| 07:25 |
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cait |
if you help me test? |
| 07:26 |
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rangi |
first thing to do |
| 07:26 |
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rangi |
is apply it |
| 07:26 |
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cait |
done |
| 07:26 |
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rangi |
and check you can still see help |
| 07:26 |
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cait |
oh, huginn is back! |
| 07:26 |
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indradg |
egads! someone is using v2.9.9 and wants support with complete docs |
| 07:26 |
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indradg |
@wunder kolkata |
| 07:26 |
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huginn |
indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 28.0�C (12:50 PM IST on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 07:27 |
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| 07:27 |
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rangi |
heh, yeah, thats not gonna happen :0 |
| 07:27 |
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rangi |
cait: after you confirm help still works |
| 07:27 |
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rangi |
try something like |
| 07:27 |
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cait |
it doesn't |
| 07:27 |
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cait |
sorry |
| 07:27 |
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| 07:27 |
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cait |
tried opening the help on the start page |
| 07:27 |
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rangi |
what is the error you get? |
| 07:27 |
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cait |
got |
| 07:27 |
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cait |
Template process failed: file error - /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/.tt: not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 125. |
| 07:28 |
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cait |
ah |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
try that page without it |
| 07:28 |
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cait |
might be because there is no help for the start page |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
i bet it doesnt work either |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 07:28 |
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alex_a |
bonjour :) |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
hi alex_a |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
can you try under the catalogue or something? |
| 07:28 |
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cait |
hm no it works |
| 07:28 |
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rangi |
what works |
| 07:28 |
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cait |
it works with patch for cataloging |
| 07:28 |
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cait |
and it works on maser for the start page |
| 07:29 |
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cait |
there is a help file for the start page - I can log in, what's next? |
| 07:29 |
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cait |
language is set to en |
| 07:30 |
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rangi |
but it doenst work on the start page with the patch on? |
| 07:30 |
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cait |
rechecking |
| 07:30 |
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cait |
now it works |
| 07:30 |
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cait |
grr |
| 07:31 |
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cait |
so what happened? |
| 07:31 |
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rangi |
no idea :) |
| 07:31 |
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cait |
checking again.. |
| 07:31 |
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rangi |
next thing to test is can you do something like |
| 07:31 |
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cait |
ah |
| 07:31 |
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cait |
ok |
| 07:31 |
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cait |
I closed the browser |
| 07:31 |
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cait |
logged back into koha |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
clicked on the help |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
error again |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
I go into catlaoging - help file opens |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
back to start page |
| 07:32 |
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rangi |
try that with master |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
help file opens |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
yep |
| 07:32 |
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cait |
on it |
| 07:33 |
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cait |
same error :) |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
so the thing to test is |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
cgi-bin/koha/help.pl?url=koha/../../../../../../etc/passwd%00.pl |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
or something similair |
| 07:33 |
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* Oak |
is also going to try this patch |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
its not anywhere as bad |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
as the cookie one |
| 07:34 |
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cait |
yay Oak :) |
| 07:34 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 07:34 |
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rangi |
because even without the patch it can only open files that end with .tt |
| 07:34 |
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rangi |
but potentially you could find some .tt file with stuff in it you shouldnt read |
| 07:34 |
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cait |
rangi: I get the template error when trying |
| 07:34 |
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rangi |
and really we should be sanitising user input |
| 07:34 |
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cait |
hm |
| 07:34 |
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rangi |
excellent, so you should |
| 07:35 |
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cait |
going back to localhost:8080 shows me nothing |
| 07:35 |
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cait |
what's the next step after trying the url? |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
thats it |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
its not like the cookie one |
| 07:35 |
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cait |
ok? |
| 07:35 |
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rangi |
in master try this |
| 07:36 |
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magnus_away is now known as magnuse |
| 07:37 |
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Oak |
magnuse |
| 07:38 |
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cait |
hi magnuse |
| 07:38 |
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cait |
rangi: this? |
| 07:38 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that this is an important potin to make too |
| 07:38 |
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rangi |
/cgi-bin/koha/help.pl?url=koha/../catalogue/advsearch.pl |
| 07:39 |
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cait |
hm |
| 07:39 |
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cait |
advsearch without css? |
| 07:39 |
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rangi |
yeah like i say |
| 07:39 |
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rangi |
you can make it show any .tt page |
| 07:39 |
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cait |
ah |
| 07:40 |
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cait |
even if I don't have the permissions? |
| 07:40 |
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rangi |
yup |
| 07:40 |
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rangi |
now try with the patch |
| 07:42 |
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rangi |
basically the patch will stop people being able to do directory traversal |
| 07:42 |
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rangi |
to find files they shouldnt be able to find |
| 07:42 |
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magnuse |
sounds like a good idea ;-) |
| 07:42 |
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cait |
signed off |
| 07:42 |
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wahanui |
i think signed off is approval |
| 07:43 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 07:44 |
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cait |
wahanui: forget this |
| 07:44 |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot this |
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cait |
wahanui this is <reply> |
| 07:44 |
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wahanui |
OK, cait. |
| 07:44 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 07:44 |
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wahanui |
niihau, reiveune |
| 07:44 |
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cait |
forget signed off |
| 07:44 |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot signed off |
| 07:44 |
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cait |
hi reiveune :) |
| 07:44 |
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reiveune |
hi cait, and everybody |
| 07:44 |
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reiveune |
:) |
| 07:47 |
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rangi |
heya reiveune |
| 07:47 |
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wahanui |
reiveune is connected through the VPN |
| 07:47 |
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cait |
heh |
| 07:47 |
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reiveune |
wahanui: wrong |
| 07:47 |
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wahanui |
reiveune: i'm not following you... |
| 07:48 |
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reiveune |
it is not very nice this bot |
| 07:49 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 07:49 |
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cait |
you can give him memory loss |
| 07:49 |
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cait |
forget reiveune |
| 07:49 |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot reiveune |
| 07:49 |
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reiveune |
lol |
| 07:49 |
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cait |
reiveune is working for biblibre |
| 07:49 |
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cait |
that's right? |
| 07:49 |
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reiveune |
yes |
| 07:50 |
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cait |
reiveune? |
| 07:50 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... reiveune is working for biblibre |
| 07:50 |
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cait |
you can add more with is also :) |
| 07:50 |
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cait |
ok, bbiab |
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indradg |
rangi, magnuse and all you bad bad people of #koha - see this "but where to download koha v3.6.x for windows" :P |
| 07:55 |
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* indradg |
is not going to help on koha-users for folks who request doze versions |
| 07:55 |
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rangi |
indradg: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4 |
| 07:55 |
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rangi |
if they really want to try, its possible |
| 07:55 |
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rangi |
not easy, but possible |
| 07:56 |
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indradg |
rangi, i know....but the demand is for complete steps with screenshots :P |
| 07:56 |
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rangi |
ahh yeah, not gonna happen |
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magnuse |
i'm not volunteering ;-) |
| 07:58 |
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Oak |
i'd rather clean my room |
| 07:58 |
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indradg |
lol |
| 07:58 |
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Oak |
:) |
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julian_m |
hi #koha |
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marcelr |
morning koha |
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rangi |
hi marcelr |
| 08:02 |
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rangi |
and julian_m |
| 08:02 |
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wahanui |
Good luck getting ten words out of this one... |
| 08:03 |
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marcelr |
hi rangi |
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sophie_m |
hi #koha |
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rangi |
hi sophie_m |
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marcelr |
hi sophie_m |
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matts_away is now known as matts |
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kf |
back :) |
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Oak |
welcome back |
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kf |
thx :) |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
| 08:17 |
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huginn |
kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (9:00 AM CET on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Falling). |
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paul_p |
hello world |
| 08:23 |
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* paul_p |
heading to push patches now |
| 08:23 |
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rangi |
hiya paul_p |
| 08:23 |
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marcelr |
hi paul_p |
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indradg |
hi paul_p |
| 08:24 |
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paul_p |
on friday, sophie has fixed the security issue on all of our customers setups. Then sent a mail. Funny to see some of them understanding strictly nothing about the problem... |
| 08:31 |
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rangi |
6628 is worth looking at too paul_p |
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paul_p |
rangi, ok, will do |
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rangi |
nowhere as bad as 6629, but does let you read .tt files that your shouldnt be able to |
| 08:32 |
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marcelr |
paul_p: is there already a fix for 6629 on the cookie error? |
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paul_p |
marcelr, yep. By rangi (reading it now) |
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rangi |
marcelr: master and 3.6.x arent vulnerable |
| 08:33 |
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marcelr |
rangi: but the commit breaks master now? |
| 08:33 |
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kf |
hi paul_p :) |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
only the webinstaller, which lead me to discover that under certain circumstances it was vulnerable |
| 08:34 |
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kf |
marcelr: webinstaller |
| 08:34 |
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kf |
and hi marcelr :) |
| 08:34 |
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marcelr |
hi kf |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
so the follow up patch fixes the error, and does input sanitisation on the webinstaller too |
| 08:34 |
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marcelr |
rangi: i got the impression that the follow up did not fix the error on webinstaller |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
did for me |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
and kf |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
who gave you that impression |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
the follow up hasnt been pushed yet |
| 08:35 |
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marcelr |
a quick test |
| 08:35 |
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rangi |
and jared confirms it does too |
| 08:36 |
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kf |
it worked fine for me, jared first thought it didn't but then it worked |
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kf |
I applied the patch, hit f5 and webinstaller was happy |
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marcelr |
ok, i wait and see |
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rangi |
so you applied it, and still got an error running the webinstaller? |
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marcelr |
yes i thought so |
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rangi |
just now? |
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marcelr |
10 mins ago\ |
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rangi |
this patch http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=6424 |
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rangi |
there are 2 follow ups |
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rangi |
[SIGNED-OFF] Bug 6629 : Follow up to trap vuln in webinstaller and fixing the error ( |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6629 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , [security] insecure use of Cookie for language selection |
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rangi |
and then |
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marcelr |
ok that should be it; i saw only one |
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rangi |
Bug 6629 : Follow up, sanitising in a couple more places |
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rangi |
ahh right |
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rangi |
yeah, you need both of them |
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marcelr |
ok |
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rangi |
if you pass qa, you might like to squash them |
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rangi |
make it easier for paul_p :) |
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marcelr |
well, paul probably pushes them now already.. |
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rangi |
@later tell chris_n the patch for 6629 [3.4.x] needs to be applied asap |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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paul_p |
marcelr, it's up to you: either I push both patches, or I wait for your squashed one |
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paul_p |
I have a few others to check/push though |
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marcelr |
paul_p: just push them; they work for me too now |
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paul_p |
OK, patch pushed |
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paul_p |
looking at 6628 now |
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rangi |
thanks paul_p |
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magnuse |
paul_p++ |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug_6629' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]10d830af5687e7e5e> / Bug 6629 : Follow up, sanitising in a couple more places <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4475be15ce14fc84e> / Bug 6629 : Follow up to trap vuln in webinstaller and fixing the error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c |
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kf |
monday starting good :) |
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francharb |
morning #koha |
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marcelr |
hi francharb |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug_6328' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4b10c582454ab8c4> / Bug 6328 : Previous patches broke templates, this is fixing them <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7315038c6dc8b6b9b> / Bug 6628 : Stopping a potential vulnerability <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ommitdiff;h=8664d |
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kf |
paul_p: I knew it wouldn't work - only being thorough in testing ;) |
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paul_p |
kf, working on 6894 now ! |
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kf |
ok |
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paul_p |
kf, if I understand correctly, the patch has not changed, it's only the description, right ? |
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paul_p |
(description & test case) |
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kf |
no changes to the patch |
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kf |
trying to make the test plan a bit clearer though |
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paul_p |
seems fair to me. Will push |
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kf |
so 2) is working for you now? |
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paul_p |
(being testing ;-) ) |
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paul_p |
nope, still not working. I : |
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paul_p |
- created a suggestion on the OPAC |
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paul_p |
- opened the suggestion on staff (http://koha-community:8080/cgi[…]tionid=1&op=edit) and still get AA as currency, where I should have EUR |
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kf |
that's so weird |
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kf |
has been working for a lot of people |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
I have no idea what's going wrong for you |
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kf |
I have restested it too - works for me |
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kf |
only difference is, I have CAD as first currency, not AA |
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kf |
and don't believe it's related to unimarc |
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kf |
bug 6894 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6894 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default currency on Acquisitions suggestion form |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
the code looks logical to me too |
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paul_p |
to me too, your code looks logical. what about asking on koha-devel for other tester/ideas ? |
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syed |
I have cleaned my db using "batch delete" and ran rebuild zebra.... but Client/OPAC search still showing the same recodes. |
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slef |
kmkale: jcamins_away: all co-ops are a bit like each other :) |
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rangi |
searching faq? |
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wahanui |
i think searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
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rangi |
syed take a look at that |
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syed |
rangi: ok |
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rangi |
theres one there for deleted records still showing |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 6629 : Follow up to trap vuln in webinstaller and fixing the error |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 6629 : Follow up, sanitising in a couple more places |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6629 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , [security] insecure use of Cookie for language selection |
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Starting build 541 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 10 j ago) |
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kf |
paul_p: are you looking at the right suggestion? |
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kf |
in your bug comment you have suggestionid: 2, but your url shows 1 |
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paul_p |
yikes !!!! |
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* paul_p |
apologize !!! |
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paul_p |
kf++ |
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paul_p |
kf++ |
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paul_p |
kf++ |
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paul_p |
(it was a new one, so suggestionid=3) |
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syed |
rangi: thanks... successfully done! |
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rangi |
cool |
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Oak |
kf++ |
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kf |
paul_p: very happy we found it :) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #541: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/541/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 6628 : Stopping a potential vulnerability |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 6328 : Previous patches broke templates, this is fixing them |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6628 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , [security] help system use insecure REFERRER for file inclusion |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6328 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Fine in days does not work |
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rangi |
yay http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Build/testReport/ |
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rangi |
2 tests passing, 11 to go :) |
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kf |
I tried the perlcritic... but that needs someone a lot wiser than me |
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paul_p |
rangi, ? about 7268 (templates), I still get a "not OK": |
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paul_p |
perl xt/author/translatable-templates.t |
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paul_p |
1..2 |
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paul_p |
not ok 1 - opac templates are translatable |
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paul_p |
# Failed test 'opac templates are translatable' |
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paul_p |
# at xt/author/translatable-templates.t line 51. |
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paul_p |
# ............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... terminé. |
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paul_p |
but no error reported. Anything I'm missing? |
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paul_p |
(without the patch, I had a # Wide character in print at ./xgettext.pl line 226., so there's a difference) |
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rangi |
hmm they pass here, im not sure why there is an error, the no error message doesnt help |
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paul_p |
agreed ;-) |
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paul_p |
I don't understand how this script is supposed to work.where does the podir come from ? which translation is it choosing to do the test ? |
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rangi |
orohiko:[git/7268-]:~/git/catalyst-koha% perl xt/author/translatable-templates.t |
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rangi |
1..2 |
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rangi |
ok 1 - opac templates are translatable |
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paul_p |
opac.po ? |
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paul_p |
I don't have any opac.po file |
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paul_p |
my $command = "./tmpl_process3.pl create -i $template_dir -s $po_dir/$module.po -r --pedantic-warnings"; => module.po contains 'opac' I think |
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rangi |
its creating it |
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rangi |
its testing creating the .po file |
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rangi |
it should make a opac.po and a intranet.po |
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rangi |
hmm try this |
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rangi |
on line 50 |
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rangi |
put |
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rangi |
diag join("\n", @warnings, ''); |
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rangi |
see if you get more info |
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paul_p |
rangi, nope, just getting the # .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. terminé. |
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paul_p |
(isn't this the origin of the problem ? the script think something went wrong because of the output ? |
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paul_p |
yikes ! |
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paul_p |
"terminé" ! |
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paul_p |
not "done" ! |
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rangi |
yeah |
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paul_p |
it's because i'm french |
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rangi |
thats probably it :) |
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rangi |
and because jenkins is too |
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rangi |
:) |
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paul_p |
jenkins is french locale ? |
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rangi |
yup |
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paul_p |
(because we're managing it ?) |
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rangi |
the server its on is |
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rangi |
yup |
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kf |
ah |
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rangi |
jenkins_koha> Starting build 541 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS |
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rangi |
#491 1 mo. 10 j ago) |
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rangi |
10 j :) |
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rangi |
thats def french |
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rangi |
that explains it then :) |
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kf |
how do we fix it? |
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rangi |
next if /^\.* terminé\.$/; |
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kf |
I think easy for jenkins, but the tests will fail when run locally? |
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* kf |
has the same problem |
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rangi |
it should be matching that |
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paul_p |
maybe test \.*\A* (ie: any number of points followed by any number of alphabetical letters) ? |
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paul_p |
( \A not sure ) |
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rangi |
hmmm |
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rangi |
yeah that might work |
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rangi |
right time for sleep i think |
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kf |
good night rangi |
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paul_p |
good night rangi |
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paul_p |
(and of course, there are diacritics, so it's not so easy to handle...) |
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fabio_t |
good morning #koha |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: fixing the translatable-template.t to handle localized setups <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]84a3d15a6e8e8cc57> / Bug 7268: Fixing failing tests for translatable templates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]de91977b3394d1c0c> |
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marcelr |
hi fabio_t |
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kf |
lunch time |
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Starting build 542 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 10 j ago) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6894' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5f7c1d0c6359be31b> / Bug 6894: Order from suggestion defaulting to wrong currency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ac7e34615e604edc> |
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Project Koha_master build #542: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/542/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6894: Order from suggestion defaulting to wrong currency |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 7268: Fixing failing tests for translatable templates |
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* paul.poulain: fixing the translatable-template.t to handle localized setups |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6894 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default currency on Acquisitions suggestion form |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7268 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Templates failing translation tests |
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fabio_t |
away for lunch, bye! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7270] Removing double itemtype on shelve contents page when no icon is shown <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7270> |
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oleonard |
What an exciting holiday weekend in #koha. |
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kf |
the security fixes? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
kept us busy |
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oleonard |
Has PTFS posted their fix for the vulnerability yet? |
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kf |
or more my coworker who had to apply them |
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kf |
it's in the repo |
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jcamins_away |
Well, the fix for one of the vulnerabilities. |
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kf |
their repo, there was a link on twitter |
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kf |
they know about the other too now |
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Oak |
who funds public libraries? |
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Oak |
the gumment? |
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oleonard |
Generally speaking the definition of a public library could be one that is publicly funded |
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oleonard |
But funding can be different from place to place. |
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Oak |
how does a public library make money so it does not have to rely on government's grant? |
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kf |
I think it's different |
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Oak |
okay |
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kf |
public library here means theat the town or city is funding it |
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Oak |
so what are some of examples of funding sources? |
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kf |
most of the time |
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Oak |
hmm |
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kf |
some are funded by the church I think |
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oleonard |
Examples: direct state/local/regional funding; foundation funding; local levies (direct taxpayer funding) |
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Oak |
hm. i see. |
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kf |
what is the question behind your question? |
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Oak |
:) well, we were given a (mini) project by the Project Management teacher to draw a proposal for a new library. |
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Oak |
we (our group) have written the proposal but our (fictional) funding source is government. so, govt. gave us money now, but who will give us money after one year? |
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kf |
not so mini :) |
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Oak |
that's what i was thinking |
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Oak |
should i send it to you for reading when you get home? |
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kf |
hehe I am not your teacher! |
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Oak |
you *are*. |
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kf |
hmpf |
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kf |
I never had courses abut project management |
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Oak |
and i've never worked in a library |
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Oak |
it'll be a perfect combination for review |
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oleonard |
Oak, why is your fictional government funding one-time? |
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oleonard |
Doesn't your government have a funding model for public libraries? |
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Oak |
i see. i don't know. |
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Oak |
so may be our govt. will keep giving us money year after year |
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Oak |
i should google that... funding model for public libraries... |
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magnuse |
in norway, there's a law saying that every municipality myst have and fund a public library |
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magnuse |
it does not say anything about the level of service that should be provided, though |
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magnuse |
on the other hand it does say that the leader of the library should be educated as a librarian |
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kf |
magnuse: that's very cool! |
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kf |
libraries are not mandatory here and funding varies |
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magnuse |
but it does not say he/she has to work 100%, and lots of municipalities have gotten exemptions, because no one with the education applied for the job |
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jcamins |
Libraries aren't particularly mandatory in the States, either. |
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slef |
magnuse: similar here. Recently Somerset County Council lost a court case when it tried to close libraries improperly. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15752432 |
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magnuse |
no court cases here that i know of, but some municipalities with tight budgets spend as little as they can on libraries... |
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chris_n |
is it safe for turkeys to come out now? |
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jcamins |
Apparently people in Iceland are the most optimistic about the possibilities of entrepreneurship, followed by the people of Norway, Sweden, and China. Least optimistic about entrepreneurship as a way to make a living are the Japanese, Dutch, and Hungarian. |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #109: "<darling>yep — china kicks ass" (added by wizzyrea at 10:29 PM, December 01, 2010) |
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chris_n |
wb gmcharlt |
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jcamins |
Checking that huginn is still working? :) |
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magnuse |
wow, that quote was eerily relevant to what jcamins just said |
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magnuse |
wb gmcharlt - we missed huginn... and you! ;-) |
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jcamins |
magnuse: it is, isn't it? |
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wizzyrea |
I swear he's becoming sentient |
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wizzyrea |
and good morning |
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magnuse |
hiya wizzyrea |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: the last four quotes I've seen from huginn were all added by you, I think. |
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jcamins |
@quote random |
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huginn |
jcamins: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 02:02 PM, March 17, 2010) |
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magnuse |
@quote random |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #153: "<rangi> merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better" (added by gmcharlt at 07:49 PM, September 13, 2011) |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
it's because I'm here, huginn doesn't want me getting a big head. |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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jcamins |
@quote random |
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huginn |
jcamins: Quote #151: "<seneca> you guys are my heroes" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, August 31, 2011) |
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jcamins |
Okay, huginn's not that concerned, I guess. |
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jcamins |
Have a nice Thanksgiving, wizzyrea? |
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jcamins |
And gmcharlt? |
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wahanui |
gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
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wizzyrea |
well, aside from the puking kid, 5 days off in a row was pretty great. |
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slef |
jcamins: what was that entrepreneurship thing from? |
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wizzyrea |
but the puking was only one day |
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magnuse |
1_day_puking++ |
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magnuse |
2_or_more_days_puking-- |
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wizzyrea |
if you're gonna have it, one day is the best possible outcome ;) |
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jcamins |
slef: Gallup organization survey. http://ec.europa.eu/public_opi[…]ash/fl_283_en.pdf |
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slef |
jcamins: oic |
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kf |
jcamins: I wanted to ask you something about a bug |
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* jcamins |
hides. |
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kf |
jcamins: do you have a few minutes? :) |
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kf |
ah, I can ask again later ;) |
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oleonard |
http://www.whatsthatbug.com/ |
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Oak |
question: suppose a government, or some foundation is responsible for providing funds to a public library. then is it allowed for a public library to go its own fund raising and spend that money where they please? or will they have to provide details for how much they collected to the government also? |
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jcamins |
kf: sure. |
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Oak |
do* its own fund raising... |
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magnuse |
"Do you have a bug you need identified?" ;-) |
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jcamins |
Oak: they'd have to account for all their income/expenditures. |
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Oak |
uh oh |
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jcamins |
Most likely. |
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jcamins |
kf: I do have a few minutes. I was just hiding. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
a lot of libraries have foundations or friends groups that raise money for the library on the side |
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jcamins |
True. |
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wizzyrea |
but that money doesn't really belong to the library |
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Oak |
i see. hmm |
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Oak |
why? who does it belong to? |
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jcamins |
But any money that the *library* has must be accounted for. The Friends group will have to do their own accounting. |
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wizzyrea |
it belongs to the friends group |
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Oak |
i see |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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kf |
jcamins: :) |
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kf |
let me find the bug number |
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kf |
huginn++ |
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wizzyrea |
there are at least 4 (that I can think of) funding schemes in my system alone |
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rhcl_away |
Oak: our library is funded by taxes - our library district is independent of any state, county or municipal boundaries, although in fact it does follow county boundaries mostly. |
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kf |
bug 5269 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5269 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, link to patron edit form when editing turned off |
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rhcl_away |
so we are our own independent taxing district |
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wizzyrea |
NEKLS is funded by state statue, a small mill levy on property taxes in all areas of our region not collecting taxes for a local library |
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Oak |
rhcl_away, hmm. |
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rhcl_away |
yes, I should have added the tax is based on real property |
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wizzyrea |
our member libraries are funded by either municipal, district, or county taxes levied by the library board |
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Oak |
wizzyrea, what are those 4 funding schemes ... names? |
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Oak |
ah |
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jcamins |
kf: did I have anything to do with that? |
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rhcl |
wizzyrea: are u going to teach that class we were talking about? |
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wizzyrea |
which class? |
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kf |
typo... |
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kf |
but 5369 |
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* wizzyrea |
has been off for 5 days |
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kf |
bug 5369 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5369 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , se queries with paranthesis fail |
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* kf |
sends wizzyrea cookies |
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* jcamins |
sends cookies too. |
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rhcl |
"Intro to Koha Bug Fixing and Git" |
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wizzyrea |
O.o well, i'm an amateur at best ;) |
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rhcl |
basically, the steps to testing and signing off on bugs |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea++ # for teaching a course on Intro to Koha Bug Fixing and Git. |
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wizzyrea |
O.O |
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oleonard |
Drunken post-Thanksgiving class-volunteering? |
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rhcl |
see, we're (my tech and I) are probably smart enough to figure out perl, and someday we will wade through git, but if we just had somebody to take a 6-hour day and walk us through a series |
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wizzyrea |
if it was drunken, I missed it - unless I was drunk on puke. |
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rhcl |
of sign-offs we'd be smarter sooner |
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wizzyrea |
oh - well, sure you can come down here for a day |
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wizzyrea |
and we can go through it together if you want, but it'd be more of a "guide on the side" kind of thing |
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rhcl |
sure? don't let me talk you into this if you don't have the time or otherwise |
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wizzyrea |
not a "sage on the stage" |
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wizzyrea |
nah I'm always down for hosting kohapeeps |
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wizzyrea |
i have a wicked amount of time off this month though - let me figure out my schedule and we can figure something out |
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magnuse |
rhcl: seen this? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'this', magnuse |
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wizzyrea |
I should say, the wiki pages are wicked helpful |
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wizzyrea |
(in fact that was my first thought - just read the wiki - but I didn't want to seem rude. I know sometimes it's nice to get away from the library to learn stuff) |
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magnuse |
yeah, sounds like a lovely excursion - visiting wizzyrea to learn git |
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* jcamins |
books a plane ticket. |
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wizzyrea |
if jcamins comes I'll just let him teach it :P |
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rhcl |
yes, weell, for example, the instructions for testing: <quote>You test it.</quote> |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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rhcl |
I would really benefit from having a bit of meat with that tidbit |
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wizzyrea |
testing is easier when you have a test plan. Hint hint. |
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jcamins |
<.< |
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jcamins |
>.> |
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wizzyrea |
testing? |
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wahanui |
testing is fun! |
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jcamins |
^.^ |
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jcamins |
Did I write that? |
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sekjal |
"and somewhere, a miracle occurs" |
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wizzyrea |
testing is also easier when you have a test plan. Hint hint. |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
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wizzyrea |
testing? |
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wahanui |
somebody said testing was fun! or easier when you have a test plan. Hint hint. |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: did you ever have any success in developing your new way to keep the frameworks in line with the MARC standards? |
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wizzyrea |
well a "best practices for testing" would probably be nice |
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wizzyrea |
and "when to feel like a failure of a tester" too. |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
I think something like: test you can add new stuff, it displays right, you can change it, you can delete it |
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jcamins |
grs1-- |
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rhcl |
I am more of a sys admin (for all things tech), and have to fix hardware, manage a dozen "systems", including telephones, public access system, wireless controllers, file servers, virtual machines |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: not enough tuits |
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* wizzyrea |
gives gmcharlt more tuitus |
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wizzyrea |
wait. |
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wizzyrea |
not tutus. |
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wizzyrea |
tuits! |
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rhcl |
someday I might get the time to actually sit down and start looking at Koha code and figure it out on my own, but if I got out of my environment for a day and just had some tutoring without distractions.... |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I suspected you were asking for :) |
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jcamins |
tuits? |
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rhcl |
and I'm trying to work with two different groups coding a new public access control application at the local university |
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magnuse |
tuits? |
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wizzyrea |
as in "round tuits" |
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wizzyrea |
or "round to it's" |
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wizzyrea |
or "when I get around to it" |
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rhcl |
and my secretary forgot to make coffee for me this morning, so now I have to go do it. Just as well, she doesn't have the artisan skill of making coffee |
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gmcharlt |
not to be confused with square tuits |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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magnuse |
"A circular object giving its owner the ability to get done everything that would have otherwise been put off to a later date." http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round_tuit |
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wizzyrea |
I hear hexagonal tuits have supernatural powers. |
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magnuse |
wow, you learn something new every day on #koha :-) |
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* chris_n |
would be glad for any kind of tuit |
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chris_n |
never can seem to get "tuit," period :-P |
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magnuse |
and then there's tui, the nz bird |
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jcamins |
magnuse: and the iut, best known for his callowness here in New York. |
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magnuse |
"known for their noisy, unusual call, different for each individual, that combine bellbird-like notes with clicks, cackles, timber-like creaks and groans, and wheezing sounds" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tui_%28bird%29 |
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magnuse |
rumour has is ones that live near people can imitate mobile phobes ;-) |
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magnuse |
s/phobes/phones/ ;-) |
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* jcamins |
knows lots of mobilephobes. ;) |
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magnuse |
tee hee |
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kf |
time to leave - bye all |
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reiveune |
bye |
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libsysguy |
morning Koha |
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libsysguy |
I am trying to stage a marc file with about 300 records through the web interface |
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libsysguy |
and it seems to be hanging |
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libsysguy |
is there anyway to do that via shell without having to do a full index |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: yeah, use stage_marc_something.pl |
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jcamins |
find ~/kohaclone -name "stage_marc*" -print |
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libsysguy |
haha thats what i just ran :p |
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jcamins |
Note, however, that if the records are not in UTF-8 you need kf's patch. |
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libsysguy |
they are |
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libsysguy |
but i didn't find that file |
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jcamins |
Hmm. |
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jcamins |
find ~/kohaclone -name "stage*.pl" -print |
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jcamins |
It's there. |
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jcamins |
Somewhere. |
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jcamins |
misc? |
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jcamins |
stage_biblios_file.pl |
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libsysguy |
found it |
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jcamins |
misc/stage_biblios_file.pl |
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libsysguy |
thanks jcamins |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. |
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libsysguy |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
@karma |
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huginn |
jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (444), "oleonard" (370), and "gmcharlt" (270). Lowest karma: "<!" (-106), "failed" (-68), and "-" (-37). You (jcamins) are ranked 12 out of 1803. |
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libsysguy |
@karma |
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huginn |
libsysguy: Highest karma: "rangi" (444), "oleonard" (370), and "gmcharlt" (270). Lowest karma: "<!" (-106), "failed" (-68), and "-" (-37). You (libsysguy) are ranked 48 out of 1803. |
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jcamins |
Whew! I can begin to recover from my huginn withdrawal. ;) |
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libsysguy |
haha |
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jcamins |
@karma jcamins_away |
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huginn |
jcamins: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. |
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jcamins |
@karma jcamins |
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huginn |
jcamins: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 113 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 112. |
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libsysguy |
if I need to use a matching rule….i see the flag but it doesn't really say how to specify it |
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libsysguy |
do you know jcamins |
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wahanui |
jcamins is, like, supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I think you specify the name. |
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libsysguy |
ok ill give it a shot |
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libsysguy |
that worked kind of |
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libsysguy |
we were doing an overlay |
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libsysguy |
and the changes didn't show up after a partial index |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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libsysguy |
should we rebuild from the xml? |
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libsysguy |
hi cait :) |
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cait |
hi libsysguy :) |
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libsysguy |
is it possible to run rebuild with -b -x -z |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: are the changes showing up when you view the records, and just not affecting search results? |
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libsysguy |
no its not showing up period |
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libsysguy |
when we view the marc record in the stage its correct |
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libsysguy |
and it says it matched |
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libsysguy |
but after processing and looking up the record in the staff client |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: in that case it has nothing to do with the index, and -- I suspect -- everything to do with the fact that you didn't go to Manage Batches and click "Import this batch." :P |
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libsysguy |
its not correct |
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libsysguy |
no we did that |
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libsysguy |
and it said it completed the import of records |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Well, definitely not an indexing issue. |
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jcamins |
That would only affect search results. |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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cait |
is your record in the bilbio table? |
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jcamins |
If you view the detail page and don't see the changes, the import wasn't actually done. |
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cait |
ah, overlay |
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cait |
ignore me |
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jcamins |
Try undoing the import, then doing it again? |
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* cait |
goes back to making dinner |
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libsysguy |
ok so after rerunning the import i went and looked at the db |
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libsysguy |
in the item record (we are changing the call number) it didn't change |
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jcamins |
And you're sure you have the overlay set up correctly? |
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libsysguy |
its set to overlay on the oclc #…and in the import it says it has all the records matched |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think you can overlay items |
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wizzyrea |
at least, that was my understanding |
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wizzyrea |
why not batch edit them? |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: that was my understanding, too. |
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sekjal |
nope, no way to overlay on items yet. you either add them or not... if you're adding, then if the barcode already exists, it won't update |
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wizzyrea |
^^ there you have it |
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wizzyrea |
see we forgot to ask the first question |
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wizzyrea |
"what are you trying to do" |
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wizzyrea |
the first question is what are you trying to do? |
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wizzyrea |
the first question? |
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wahanui |
the first question is probably why you would pick a strange version like that. 3.4.3 is the current stable release |
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wizzyrea |
forget the first question |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot first question |
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wizzyrea |
the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
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libsysguy |
sorry stepped away |
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wizzyrea |
the first question? |
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wahanui |
i guess the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
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libsysguy |
is there any work in getting overlaying for items working? |
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libsysguy |
we needed to add url's to items |
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libsysguy |
and that is kind of a one at a time thing |
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wizzyrea |
ah yea, adding url's = can't batch that |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: delete all items that you want to replace, then add items? |
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libsysguy |
yeah but that requires a full index right |
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jcamins |
Extract the list of barcodes, use the batch delete tool. |
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jcamins |
No. |
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jcamins |
Don't see why. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: does the batch item deletion tool update zebraqueue? |
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wizzyrea |
nope |
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wizzyrea |
yes, i mean |
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wizzyrea |
no it won't require a reindex |
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wizzyrea |
yes it does update zebraqueue |
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libsysguy |
ohh well there is a silver lining |
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sekjal |
jcamins: right, batch update/delete handle zebra |
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libsysguy |
sekjal since I have you around…hourly? |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: nothing to report |
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sekjal |
well, no |
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sekjal |
there is a bit |
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libsysguy |
uh oh |
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sekjal |
we're working with Catalyst to get a solid test instance set up |
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sekjal |
goal is to open that up to everyone, so we can get as many testers looking at it as possible |
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libsysguy |
oh w00t |
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sekjal |
holiday slowed me up a bit |
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libsysguy |
is there a snag in that…we might be able to provide something |
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libsysguy |
turkey always slows me down too |
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sekjal |
yeah, it's just a crowded time of year in the US, schedule-wise |
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libsysguy |
indeed |
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libsysguy |
well If i can put something up for you guys let me know |
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libsysguy |
we have a pretty strong VM cluster set up here |
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sekjal |
cool, thanks libsysguy |
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libsysguy |
np |
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sekjal |
what we really need, as a community as a whole, is a very detailed and robust set of testing data |
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sekjal |
so we can all test on the same thing |
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sekjal |
reduce one more variable in the process |
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sekjal |
FOR SCIENCE! |
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libsysguy |
agreed…inconvienent…but agreed |
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* wizzyrea |
has been playing portal 2 all weekend - don't talk to me about science! |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
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* oleonard |
just started it last night! |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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* sekjal |
allows himself a little bit of Minecraft, but that's it for video games |
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* libsysguy |
plays no videogames…he is only allowed to code from the basement |
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wizzyrea |
not even angry birds? |
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* jcamins |
doesn't play videogames. |
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libsysguy |
nope…my fuse is too short with games…it becomes a competition |
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wizzyrea |
...isn't that what games *are* |
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wizzyrea |
you don't have to play coop :P |
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wizzyrea |
or you mean you put your fist through the computer screen |
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* jcamins |
writes about Dziga Vertov's rapidly anti-Eisenstein stance instead. |
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jcamins |
s/rapidly/rabidly/ |
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* jcamins |
awards himself a cookie for having killed that conversation. |
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jcamins |
:P |
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sekjal |
Minecraft is delightfully pointless. like being immersed in a 3D Lego world |
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sekjal |
with monsters |
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* oleonard |
has never tried it |
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rhcl |
Vertov differed from Eisenstein (theatre vs documentary), but was he anti-Eisenstein? |
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jcamins |
rhcl: no, he was anti-Eisenstein-style film. |
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jcamins |
I was simplifying. |
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jcamins |
He was rabidly anti-"fiction" for proletarian film. |
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rhcl |
think we had same underlying thought |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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rhcl |
but he did propaganda films, right? |
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jcamins |
Vertov? Yeah. |
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rhcl |
or are you saying he was anti-proletarian? |
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jcamins |
Then he got in trouble for Sixth Part of the World |
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jcamins |
He was pro-proletarian, anti-"fiction." |
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rhcl |
ic |
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jcamins |
He felt the new world order required a new, non-fictional form of film. |
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rhcl |
I'm at the limits of my knowledge of the subject |
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jcamins |
rhcl: you know more than most people! |
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rhcl |
I confess I have a cursory exposure to many different subjects, but find I need to wikipeida frequently to refresh my memory. I can still quote Shakespeare at some length, for example, but sometimes forget the context. |
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rhcl |
One of those things which never made it to the status of a post-nominal |
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rhcl |
At one point I had completely memorized the "Masque of the Red Death", now only bits and pieces. |
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Oak |
night guys |
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rhcl |
later Oak |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 1623] Retain history of approved comments <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1623> |
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wizzyrea |
I need feedback on bug 7271 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7271 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Change sort on detail.pl to be by home library instead of holding branch |
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wizzyrea |
any other ideas are welcome as well |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: better to do the sorting as late in the game as possible, so it's easier to sort differently on different pages (or based on library prefs) |
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wizzyrea |
right - I was concerned about performance though |
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wizzyrea |
sql sort > tablesorter? |
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jcamins |
In terms of performance, much better. |
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wizzyrea |
yea that's what I was worried about :/ |
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wizzyrea |
and |
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wizzyrea |
the patch for 6600 changed the default sort |
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jcamins |
In terms of customizeability, I don't see any reason not to change the default sort back to what it was. This isn't a new feature. |
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wizzyrea |
a pseudo-regression, but not really |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, i'm taking quote 123 into account here - I understand that it might be only my libraries that want this sort |
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oleonard |
More unintended consequences |
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wizzyrea |
but - the home branch sort does have a certain kind of charm. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: but if the sort always used to be home branch with no options, I don't see how you're losing anything. |
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rhcl |
oleonard++ (Comments Bug 1623 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1623 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Retain history of approved comments |
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rhcl |
) |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
oleonard++ |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
good morning :) |
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rhcl |
rangi |
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chris_n |
hi rangi |
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cait |
hi chris_n :) |
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chris_n |
hey cait |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.9�C (7:49 PM CET on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@quote random |
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huginn |
cait: Quote #140: "<oleonard> That's why I'm the only one with a flying car. I just didn't figure anyone else would be interested." (added by gmcharlt at 12:39 PM, June 03, 2011) |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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huginn |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 18.0�C (1:35 PM EST on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
that's a lot nicr |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 29, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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chris_n |
its actually full-blown rain here |
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slef |
@wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET |
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huginn |
slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 12.2�C (6:55 PM GMT on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). |
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slef |
Light??? Rain |
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* slef |
goes to dry out |
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maximep |
@wunder yul |
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maximep: The current temperature in Montreal / Dorval International, Que, Quebec is 7.0�C (1:00 PM EST on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
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maximep |
not raining here for what seems like forever =) |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 18.7�C (1:56 PM EST on November 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). |
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maximep |
*for first time in forever |
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jcamins |
cait: what's the abbreviation for the Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin? |
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cait |
stabi I think |
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cait |
or the official? :) |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jcamins |
If there's an official one, that's even better. |
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cait |
I can look for one |
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cait |
apparently they call their opac stabikat :) |
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jcamins |
Hm. So Stabi probably is the official. Thanks. :) |
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cait |
SBB |
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jcamins |
Ah! Thanks. |
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cait |
jcamins: looks like SBB |
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cait |
http://stabikat.de/CHARSET=ISO[…]6&SRT=YOP&TRM=sbb |
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cait |
yeah, that looks right |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jcamins |
That takes up much less space than "Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin." |
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jcamins |
And is much easier to type. ;) |
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* cait |
thinks that is not a long name for a German library |
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jcamins |
No, but it takes up a lot more space than "LC" and "BL." |
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jcamins |
:P |
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chris_n |
2.2.9 windoz version... wow... |
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chris_n |
that's a real antique |
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rangi |
yup |
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* jcamins |
responded. |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
"Sorry, you're basically SOL." |
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cait |
SOL? |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
got it |
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jcamins |
:) |
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oleonard |
Personally I'm fond of the request for step by step screenshots or video in lecture form on how to integrate EBSCO, open access databases through pazpar2 |
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rangi |
heh |
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cait |
lol |
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oleonard |
I'm surprised no one has whipped that up |
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rangi |
i did |
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rangi |
but im refilming in 3D |
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oleonard |
:D |
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chris_n |
lol |
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jcamins |
oleonard: he signed onto IRC for five minutes to request that we provide him the step-by-step screenshots too. |
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cait |
lol |
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jcamins |
We tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, and convince ourselves it was a language issue, but indradg said that it wasn't so much a language issue as a belief that open source developers can be browbeaten into providing unlimited free support. It was a valiant effort on our parts, though. :) |
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jcamins |
This Russian journal from the twenties has a humor page. I don't get it. |
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oleonard |
You'd have to browbeat me pretty severely for me to throw together a video in lecture form |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
sorry, imagining it makes me laugh |
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jcamins |
If the browbeating involved a check for *a lot*, I could be pursuaded. |
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* cait |
goes back to her bug |
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indradg |
jcamins, we seem to be being hit by the "2.2.9 bug" from India :P |
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jcamins |
2.2.9 was a good vintage. |
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jcamins |
And it's not quite old enough to drink. |
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jcamins |
Yet. |
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jcamins |
Right? |
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indradg |
and unfortunately folks at DelNet think that 2.2.9 on windows is their way to library nirvana in india :P |
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wizzyrea |
oh my. |
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jcamins |
Oh dear. |
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jcamins |
Well, I'm glad they decided to go open source, anyway. |
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oleonard |
It may be, as long as they're providing support and patches |
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indradg |
just saw a post on koha-user asking for barcodes on 2.2.9 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I'm betting they're not. |
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indradg |
jcamins, good luck! now the queries will hit you directly instead of the m/l |
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jcamins |
indradg: I considered that, and decided it's easy enough to say "please respond to the mailing list, I will delete all private communication going forward." |
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jcamins |
And then set up a filter doing that. |
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oleonard |
See you later #koha |
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rangi |
right im off home |
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rangi |
chicken pox in the hizzouse |
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magnuse |
ouch? |
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rangi |
yeah if the operation wasnt enough, atarau now has chicken pox |
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wizzyrea |
oh my gracious! |
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wizzyrea |
poor little thing! |
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cait |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
:( |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: we already had to wash the bear |
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magnuse |
here's hoping he gets well real soon! |
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rangi |
after he tried to feed it cheerios |
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wizzyrea |
lol :D |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
i'm so glad he likes it ^.^ |
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rangi |
ok spotyas later |
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cait |
:) |
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magnuse |
g'night #koha |
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cait |
now he was faster - g'night #koha |
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wizzyrea |
gracious, like rats on the titanic |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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rhcl |
? |
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rhcl |
subject - verb - direct object format? |
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so many people left all at once |
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rhcl |
ah |
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Judit |
hi |
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wahanui |
what's up, Judit |
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wizzyrea |
hi judit |
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Judit |
hi rea |
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Judit |
how are you |
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wizzyrea |
i am well :) |
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wizzyrea |
how about you? |
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Judit |
the rain is gone, sunshine is here |
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Judit |
so i am happy |
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wizzyrea |
woohoo! |
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Judit |
:) |
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Judit |
bike time too |
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ibeardslee |
rangi: or anyone else .. any further updates on the trademark 'process'? |
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wizzyrea |
rangi is away with a sick kiddo today. |
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wizzyrea |
or at least he was. |
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ibeardslee |
oh yeah that's right |
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wizzyrea |
but to answer your question, I have not heard anything new |
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wizzyrea |
but I'm not really in the sekkrit club that knows stuff. ;) |
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rangi |
we have one of those? |
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wizzyrea |
he arises! |
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rangi |
http://www.itwire.com/business[…]has-stronger-case |
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rangi |
http://www.librarian.net/stax/[…]e-us-new-zealand/ |
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rangi |
those came through in my feed reader today |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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wizzyrea |
whaddup :) |
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rangi |
hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
:D |
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eythian |
I see mtj gets a passing shout out in that first one |
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rangi |
yup, sounds like he has a strong case |
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wizzyrea |
any opinions about this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7271 (and the patch that's there) |
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huginn |
Bug 7271: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Change sort on detail.pl to be by home library instead of holding branch |
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rangi |
its putting it back the way it used to be eh? |
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wizzyrea |
well not exactly |
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wizzyrea |
the way it used to work anyway |
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wizzyrea |
I believe I preserved the thing that 6600 was trying to fix |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
im gonna be annoying and say, maybe the sort should be sysprefable |
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wizzyrea |
it probably should be |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
but if im gonna say that, i should step up and do it |
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wizzyrea |
gaga |
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wizzyrea |
crazy hat and all |
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Brooke |
rangi++ |
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wizzyrea |
no, I mean haha |
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rangi |
reverting to previous sort order seems ok to me |
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rangi |
id have put that as the bug name too, cos it soounds more betterer hehe |
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wizzyrea |
the way in which it's done is ok? |
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wizzyrea |
lol ok |
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Brooke |
Mebbe get a little place in Strongbadia? |
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wizzyrea |
there betterer? |
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Brooke |
eythian? |
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wahanui |
eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
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eythian |
Brooke? |
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wahanui |
I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. or a ratbag. |
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* wizzyrea |
slaps wahanui |
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Brooke |
wahanhui eythian is also brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin |
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wizzyrea |
brooke is not a ratbag. |
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Brooke |
heh it's funny as, keep it! |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: yep seems ok to me |
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wizzyrea |
brooke? |
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wahanui |
I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. or a ratbag. |
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wizzyrea |
see, still a ratbag. |
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wizzyrea |
oh I wasn't going to change it |
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Brooke |
once a ratbag, always a ratbag. |
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wizzyrea |
but I do like slapping wahanui about |
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wizzyrea |
ok |
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wizzyrea |
hometime |
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wizzyrea |
gotta go |
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Brooke |
you mean smeking, yes? |
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wizzyrea |
right |
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wizzyrea |
smecking |
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wizzyrea |
with my fush and chups. |
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Brooke |
hehehehh |
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Brooke |
speak proper english! |
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Brooke |
@later tell oak I will totally help you with your project. Send it to me via email. |
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huginn |
Brooke: The operation succeeded. |
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Judit |
uh |
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Judit |
i wanted to ask something |
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Judit |
what was it |
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Judit |
yes |
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Judit |
i am trying to help a friend to set up the first koha on hungary |
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Judit |
and all looks ok, but i added a hungarian z39.50 server |
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* Brooke |
shakes the magic 8 ball |
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Judit |
and after a search |
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Brooke |
you have to reset the daemon? |
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Judit |
hang on:) |
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Judit |
so the charaters are all gone weird |
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* Brooke |
shakes the ball again |
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Judit |
we have many special charaters like üóéáúű |
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Brooke |
Encoding is a bitch. |
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Judit |
and they all com up like#$%$^ |
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Judit |
that is in the search, but also after the import into koha |
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Judit |
even though i select utf 8 |
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Brooke |
okay |
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Brooke |
check the tabby thing labeled i18nl10n |
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Brooke |
Home > Administration > System Prefs |
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Judit |
which tab is that on.... |
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Judit |
:) |
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Judit |
oh |
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Judit |
i found it |
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Brooke |
and unless your friend is Agnes Imecs, might not be the first Library in Hungary. |
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Brooke |
so in theory someone knows how to fiddle with this a lot better than me. |
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Judit |
okay |
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Judit |
just a sec |
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Brooke |
also, the interwebs is whispering that there's a cage match between ISO Latin 2 and UTF 8 for proper display |
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Judit |
hm who is AGnes Imecs |
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Judit |
yeah, i know, google is my friend:) |
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Brooke |
in theory, someone that did a bit of Hu translate work back before the swap of the decade ;) |
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Brooke |
that too |
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rhcl is now known as rhcl_awa |
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rhcl_awa is now known as rhcl_away |
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Brooke |
another thing to do |
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Brooke |
would be to visit http://translate.koha-community.org/hu/ |
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Brooke |
and stalk the folks that aren't you. |
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Judit |
what is wrong with me?:) |
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* Brooke |
shakes the magic 8 ball. |
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Judit |
what if i want to stalk myself< |
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Brooke |
Tell me about your mother? |
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Judit |
:D |
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rhcl_away |
u 2 are funny |
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