Time |
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Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
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jcamins_away |
It sure will be. |
00:02 |
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00:03 |
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* jcamins_away |
finishes assembling the application, and goes to make pizza. |
00:03 |
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jcamins_away |
The incomplete application, that is. |
00:16 |
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00:16 |
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druthb |
o/ |
00:19 |
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mtj |
heya druthb |
00:19 |
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druthb |
hi, mtj! :D |
00:21 |
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* mtj |
waves from nz |
00:22 |
|
mtj |
had a great week after kohacon11 in goa |
00:22 |
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druthb |
glad you got home safe, and glad you had fun! :) |
00:22 |
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mtj |
but nice to be home now too |
00:22 |
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mtj |
yeah, will def. go back |
00:23 |
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mtj |
goa was crazy cheap, |
00:23 |
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jransom |
heya mason |
00:23 |
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jransom |
ruth |
00:23 |
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jransom |
et al |
00:23 |
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mtj |
and great food vege too |
00:23 |
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druthb |
jransom! Hey, babe! |
00:25 |
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libsysguy |
is there a shell marc export? |
00:25 |
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mtj |
hey jo, sad news re: K$HA trademark in NZ :( |
00:26 |
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mtj |
jransom: any plans for a paypal account soon, for donations, etc? |
00:27 |
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mtj |
libsysguy: hmm, not one in the koha repo ? i think |
00:28 |
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mtj |
ive def. written one (or two ) tho |
00:28 |
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jransom |
yup |
00:28 |
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jransom |
I had so many offers of help |
00:28 |
|
jransom |
pretty amazing |
00:28 |
|
jransom |
and humbling |
00:29 |
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jransom |
check your email and also the blog post on koha-community.org |
00:29 |
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mtj |
jransom: consider cross-posting your email to CODE4LIB and NZ-LIBS mailing-lists too, please... |
00:30 |
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jransom |
oh - sure - never thought of that |
00:32 |
|
* mtj |
checks its email... |
00:33 |
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mtj |
jransom: also NZOSS lists too |
00:33 |
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mtj |
http://nzoss.org.nz/mailinglists |
00:33 |
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* ibeardslee |
has asked the NZOSS council |
00:34 |
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mtj |
chur, bro ;) |
00:35 |
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jransom |
mason: can you post it to the NZOSS list? |
00:36 |
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mtj |
i think anyone can? |
00:36 |
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mtj |
but its prolly better posted by you, Jo |
00:37 |
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jransom |
sounds like ibeardslee has it in hand |
00:37 |
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mtj |
http://lists.nzoss.org.nz/mail[…]listinfo/openchat |
00:42 |
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mtj |
libsysguy: i checked my notes.... |
00:42 |
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00:42 |
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mtj |
$ mysql koha3_prod -e †select marc from biblioitems where marc is not null and date(timestamp) > ’2010-08-01′†> marc.txt |
00:42 |
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mtj |
... was how i was dumping Koha marc records to a file |
00:42 |
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libsysguy |
oh sweet…thanks mtj |
00:43 |
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libsysguy |
mtj++ |
00:43 |
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druthb |
mtj: that'd work, but post 3.4, would not include embedded items. |
00:43 |
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libsysguy is now known as libsysguy_dinner |
00:44 |
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mtj |
druthb: ah, yeah - no item records in my example |
00:45 |
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mtj |
items weren't required in my situ... |
00:57 |
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00:59 |
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druthb |
hi, BobB! :) |
01:02 |
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jransom |
heya Bob |
01:07 |
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01:19 |
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ibeardslee |
.. I suddenly got what HLT meant .. sigh |
01:23 |
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01:28 |
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BobB |
hi druthb |
01:28 |
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BobB |
hey Jo, not such great news for you today |
01:43 |
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01:45 |
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01:47 |
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02:01 |
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rangi |
back |
02:02 |
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jransom |
heya |
02:03 |
|
jransom |
Hi Bob - no - itsbeen a very sad day but feeling chirpier now |
02:03 |
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jransom |
koha community is an amazing thing |
02:04 |
|
eythian |
hi all |
02:04 |
|
* eythian |
is back in NZ again |
02:11 |
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rangi |
jransom: it really is |
02:23 |
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02:30 |
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eythian |
jransom: <koalulz> hmm, the paypal return address is http://blog.kete.net.nz/ which appears deaded. |
02:31 |
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jransom |
works for me mate |
02:31 |
|
jcamins_away |
Doesn't work for me, either. |
02:31 |
|
* jcamins_away |
just tested the URL. |
02:31 |
|
jransom |
and donations have been rolling in all day |
02:32 |
|
jransom |
ok - will off and investigate |
02:32 |
|
eythian |
jransom: well, it's only after you've donated that you get this |
02:32 |
|
eythian |
and it doesn't work for me either, fwiw :) |
02:32 |
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jransom |
ok - i'm on to it |
02:34 |
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02:34 |
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Phlunk3 |
is there somewhere written down what the actual issue with the copyright etc is? have heard it mentioned a few times but wasn't sure how it all came about. |
02:35 |
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rangi |
no issue with copyright |
02:35 |
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jcamins_away |
Phlunk3: you mean the trademark stuff? |
02:35 |
|
Phlunk3 |
yeah sorry, trademark :P |
02:35 |
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jcamins_away |
It should be described in the first post on the koha-community.org front page. |
02:35 |
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Phlunk3 |
tx |
02:36 |
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chris_n |
blog address didn't work from here either |
02:36 |
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jcamins_away |
There was an article by Galen Charlton. |
02:37 |
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jransom |
ok - I have redone it - linking back to koha-community after the donation is finished. |
02:37 |
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rangi |
http://lwn.net/Articles/386284/ is interesting too |
02:39 |
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Phlunk3 |
tx rangi |
02:39 |
|
eythian |
(note that it's over a year old, but still relevant) |
02:40 |
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jransom |
ok redone it on the koha-community site as well |
02:40 |
|
jransom |
sorry about that folks - |
02:40 |
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eythian |
sweet :) |
02:49 |
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02:51 |
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02:51 |
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ibeardslee |
I've just sent an email out to the NZOSS Openchat list. |
02:51 |
|
Brooke |
Kia Ora |
02:52 |
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02:56 |
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eythian |
http://youtu.be/t1F7N1waNWM |
02:58 |
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jransom |
brooke |
02:58 |
|
jransom |
you are awake :) |
02:58 |
|
Brooke |
of course |
02:58 |
|
* Brooke |
would not doze at this. |
03:01 |
|
jransom |
"will i just put down wasps" .. lol |
03:01 |
|
jransom |
crazy ethyian |
03:01 |
|
rangi |
hehe |
03:03 |
|
ibeardslee |
heh gah maybe I should get my mail client to check all folders more often |
03:14 |
|
eythian |
http://twitter.com/#!/jonobacon <-- only 8,100 followers... |
03:14 |
|
rangi |
yeah, just tweeted it too |
03:16 |
|
* jcamins_away |
retweeted as well. |
03:16 |
|
jcamins_away |
For all 4 followers who aren't connected to Koha. |
03:16 |
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rangi |
heh |
03:16 |
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eythian |
heh |
03:17 |
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03:33 |
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03:33 |
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AmitG |
heya chris, jrnasom |
03:33 |
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rangi |
hi AmitG |
03:33 |
|
Brooke |
hi Amit |
03:34 |
|
jransom |
heya amit |
03:34 |
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03:34 |
|
jransom |
Koutubha ! |
03:34 |
|
eythian |
hi kmkale |
03:34 |
|
eythian |
(et al.)( |
03:34 |
|
eythian |
) |
03:35 |
|
Brooke |
other Indians in the house. |
03:35 |
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AmitG |
heya Brooke |
03:40 |
|
Brooke |
http://deathstarpr.blogspot.co[…]teach-us-for.html |
03:47 |
|
Judit1 |
oh, i started to watch star wars from the beginning |
03:47 |
|
Judit1 |
again |
03:47 |
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Brooke |
:) |
03:47 |
|
Brooke |
prolly do summat like that starting my Wednesday nightish |
03:47 |
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Judit1 |
but i still like the original 3 best |
03:48 |
|
eythian |
well. there's only 5 or 6 hours of watching anyway |
03:48 |
|
Brooke |
it helps me not be irritated by my stupid sister. |
03:50 |
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Judit1 |
more then 2 hours each |
03:50 |
|
Judit1 |
i think |
03:52 |
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eythian |
so a bit over 6 hours then, still not too bad :) |
03:53 |
|
Brooke |
13.28 according to IMDB for all |
03:53 |
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Judit1 |
u |
03:53 |
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jransom |
I am weary .... |
03:53 |
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eythian |
that implies they're about 4.5 hours each... |
03:53 |
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Brooke |
nope |
03:53 |
|
Brooke |
about 2 hoursish each |
03:54 |
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Judit1 |
just as i said :) |
03:54 |
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eythian |
that implies there are six movies... |
03:54 |
|
Brooke |
which there are :P |
03:54 |
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jransom |
Brooke: fancy answering the code4liv query? |
03:54 |
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Judit1 |
:D |
03:54 |
|
eythian |
no there aren't |
03:54 |
|
Judit1 |
3 and 3 |
03:54 |
|
Judit1 |
hm |
03:54 |
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jransom |
i'm ready for home - might walk dog on the beach for a bit |
03:54 |
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Judit1 |
what are you talking about ethyian |
03:54 |
|
Brooke |
you can cover your eyes and ears and pretend that 1-3 aren't there |
03:54 |
|
Brooke |
but they are :P |
03:54 |
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eythian |
jransom: a good day for it. |
03:54 |
|
eythian |
(at least, here) |
03:55 |
|
eythian |
Judit1: there are 4,5 and 6. |
03:55 |
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eythian |
that's all. |
03:55 |
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chrisdothall |
heh |
03:55 |
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rangi |
good idea jransom |
03:56 |
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eythian |
I always thought that a sequel to The Matrix could also be pretty neat. |
03:56 |
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jransom |
they did a trilogy |
03:56 |
|
eythian |
no they didn't. |
03:56 |
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rangi |
hehe |
03:56 |
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jransom |
um .... yeah 3 parts? |
03:56 |
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eythian |
nope. |
03:56 |
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jransom |
and they were good |
03:56 |
|
eythian |
Just one. |
03:56 |
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jransom |
matrix revolutions |
03:57 |
|
jransom |
was great (awesome soundtrack too) |
03:57 |
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eythian |
http://xkcd.com/566/ |
03:57 |
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Brooke |
obvious troll is obvious |
03:58 |
|
eythian |
I would never! |
03:58 |
|
eythian |
https://twitter.com/#!/webmink <-- going around the free software world at a rate of knots |
03:59 |
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Brooke |
</cmontgomeryburns> Eggsellent </monty> |
04:00 |
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rangi |
wow |
04:00 |
|
Brooke |
I think the rhum has infused the ice cubes |
04:00 |
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jransom |
ethian: you are very very sily today |
04:01 |
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04:01 |
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Brooke |
today is an unnecessary limiter. |
04:01 |
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jransom |
lol |
04:03 |
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eythian |
http://www.reddit.com/r/koha/c[…]_system_keep_its/ <-- also, upvote this and it may hit the front page |
04:07 |
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rangi |
hmm who downvoted it i wonder |
04:07 |
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eythian |
it's very hard to tell, reddit messes with the info you get to counter spamming and gaming of the system |
04:07 |
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Brooke |
I've one up 0 down on me tally |
04:08 |
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04:09 |
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eythian |
that's what I see, too |
04:10 |
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eythian |
oh no wait: 3 omhoogstemmen 1 stem omlaag |
04:10 |
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rangi |
yeah |
04:11 |
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kmkale |
Namaskaar #koha |
04:11 |
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kmkale |
Namaste jransom, eythian, Brooke, rangi :) |
04:11 |
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Brooke |
namaste |
04:12 |
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04:13 |
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jransom |
ok well thats me donw. sleep well some and work hard others :) |
04:14 |
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rangi |
:) |
04:14 |
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rangi |
cya jransom |
04:14 |
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Brooke |
bye bye |
04:14 |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/#!/mosborn[…]38813229840351232 |
04:15 |
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Brooke |
noice |
04:15 |
|
Brooke |
I think that fits your shanking definition of love nicely, yes? |
04:15 |
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jransom |
oh yes - definiotely |
04:15 |
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rangi |
:) |
04:15 |
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kmkale |
Namaste Irma :) |
04:15 |
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04:16 |
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Brooke |
last of the game yet |
04:16 |
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05:42 |
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cait |
morning #koha |
05:53 |
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eythian |
hi cait |
05:53 |
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cait |
morning robin |
05:53 |
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cait |
back from australia? |
05:53 |
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eythian |
yep, got back about midnight |
05:57 |
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cait |
how did your presenation go? |
05:57 |
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eythian |
it went well. Had a small but interested group, which is what this kind of thing tends to get. |
05:57 |
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cait |
:) |
05:59 |
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07:05 |
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magnus_away is now known as magnuse |
07:14 |
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rangi |
hey mtj |
07:14 |
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AmitG |
heya rangi, cait |
07:15 |
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rangi |
hmm hey magnuse |
07:15 |
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cait |
hi AmitG and magnuse |
07:15 |
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magnuse |
hiya rangi AmitG cait |
07:16 |
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AmitG |
heya magnuse |
07:18 |
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magnuse |
wow, human stupidity knows no bounds... :-( |
07:18 |
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rangi |
yeah, it really doesnt |
07:20 |
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magnuse |
i just made my (first) donation... |
07:21 |
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rangi |
:) |
07:27 |
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cait |
donated too |
07:29 |
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07:30 |
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07:30 |
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jransom |
heya susan |
07:31 |
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Susan |
hi jransom |
07:31 |
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Susan |
i want to try configuring koha |
07:31 |
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rangi |
heya jransom |
07:31 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that jransom is gonna *smek* someone. |
07:31 |
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rangi |
hi Susan |
07:32 |
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07:32 |
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Susan |
the programmers have already downloaded it |
07:32 |
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Susan |
hi rangi |
07:33 |
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07:34 |
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Susan |
someone help |
07:34 |
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rangi |
we need more information than htat |
07:34 |
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rangi |
have they installed it? |
07:34 |
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alex_a |
hell |
07:34 |
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alex_a |
o |
07:34 |
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rangi |
bonjour alex_a |
07:35 |
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alex_a |
bonjour rangi |
07:35 |
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Susan |
yes they have |
07:35 |
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rangi |
so its all installed and working fine, you just need to set up your preferences etc? |
07:36 |
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rangi |
and what version? |
07:36 |
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Susan |
we did a try and error before and when i went for the kohacon11 i discovered we were on the wrong truck |
07:36 |
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Susan |
3.6 |
07:36 |
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rangi |
cool |
07:37 |
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Susan |
let me try but when i get stuck i will come back to you |
07:37 |
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rangi |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/en/impadmin.html |
07:37 |
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Susan |
my bosses are disappointed at our first attempt |
07:37 |
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rangi |
heres a good place to start |
07:38 |
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rangi |
http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/ is the whole manual |
07:39 |
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Susan |
thanks |
07:40 |
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Susan |
so i have to read the whole of it first |
07:41 |
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Susan |
can i have 2 monitors, one for the manual and one with the system |
07:41 |
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Susan |
then i can configure while reading the manual? |
07:42 |
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magnuse |
sure! |
07:42 |
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rangi |
yup, id start with the implementation checklist |
07:43 |
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07:43 |
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07:43 |
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rangi |
but yeah, two monitors is a good idea |
07:43 |
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Susan |
ok |
07:43 |
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Susan |
thanks |
07:43 |
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rangi |
bonjour paul_p, Ça va? |
07:44 |
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Susan |
hi paul |
07:44 |
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cait |
hi paul_p |
07:44 |
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paul_p |
kia ora rangi & Susan & others |
07:44 |
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paul_p |
& cait |
07:44 |
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rangi |
paul_p: did you meet susan at kohacon11 ? |
07:44 |
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Susan |
yes we did meet |
07:44 |
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* paul_p |
will head for a meeting with AixMarseille university, to convince them switching to community/master in 2012... |
07:45 |
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rangi |
oh excellent |
07:45 |
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paul_p |
(and not go the StEtienne / Solr path) |
07:45 |
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07:45 |
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rangi |
wb jransom |
07:45 |
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cait |
paul_p: hope it goes well |
07:45 |
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paul_p |
rangi, yes, we met. And the last time we met was ... at the airport. His plane took off at 4AM, our at 3AM :\ |
07:45 |
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rangi |
eek |
07:46 |
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Susan |
it was at 4.30am |
07:46 |
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magnuse |
kia ora jransom |
07:46 |
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paul_p |
cait, yep. Lyon3 has choosen this way (community/master), that should help. |
07:46 |
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Susan |
was quite tired after checking in at midnight |
07:46 |
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jransom |
this time maybe |
07:46 |
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jransom |
i cant see any text |
07:46 |
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jransom |
oh there it is |
07:46 |
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rangi |
hehe |
07:46 |
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jransom |
hello world :) |
07:47 |
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magnuse |
hello jransom :-) |
07:47 |
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Susan |
hallo back |
07:47 |
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Susan |
:-) |
07:48 |
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07:49 |
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cait |
paul_p: very cool |
07:49 |
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cait |
time to go to work - bbiab :) |
07:49 |
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* cait |
waves at jo before running out |
07:49 |
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jransom |
heya Cait |
07:49 |
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rangi |
cya in a bit cait |
07:50 |
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07:50 |
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reiveune |
hello |
07:50 |
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wahanui |
hey, reiveune |
07:50 |
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07:52 |
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rangi |
heya reiveune |
07:52 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it reiveune is connected through the VPN |
07:53 |
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reiveune |
hi rangi, everybody |
08:00 |
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matts_away is now known as matts |
08:01 |
|
* kmkale |
has just donated some money to the HLT legal trademark fund :) |
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kmkale++ |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
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jransom |
champion :) |
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asaurat |
hi! |
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rangi |
hi asaurat and magnuse |
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rangi |
doh |
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rangi |
matts |
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rangi |
tab completion is failing me today |
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matts |
hi ! |
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rangi |
kmkale++ |
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hehe |
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francharb |
hi #koha! |
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rangi |
hi francharb |
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rangi |
wb kf |
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magnuse |
guten tag kf |
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magnuse |
bonjour francharb |
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kf |
:) |
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magnuse |
wow, having "OPAC 5.6" as the page title for a detail view is less than impressive ;-) http://bibliotek.kristianstad.[…]hed+korparna+a/ob |
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heh |
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ams |
is this the same koha that is in some kind of legal mess? |
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ams: not sure the description fits 100 per cent |
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kf |
but this is the koha ils channel, yes |
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ams |
http://diligentroom.wordpress.[…]iblime-trademark/ |
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magnuse |
tj�nare ams |
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ams |
was refering to that |
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magnuse |
yup |
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ams |
Has anyone talked to the FSF/SFLC for help? |
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ams |
http://www.fsf.org | http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ |
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ams |
magnuse: Ok, tjo hej tjo hopp :-) |
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magnuse |
;-) |
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AmitG |
heya ams :D |
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ams |
AmitG: hi, do i know you? |
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magnuse |
doesn't sound like anyone here at the moment has been in touch with fsf etc... |
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AmitG |
ams: don't know |
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rangi |
not me |
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ams |
magnuse: that is a pitty, specially the sflc which helps free software projects with legal stuff. |
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ams |
magnuse: the fsf might not be able to help directly, but the sflc should be able to do so. |
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ams |
AmitG: ah, so i'm the sore thumb sticking out here :-) |
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magnuse |
nope, not a sore thumb! you'd have to misbehave for a while to earn that monicker ;-) |
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rangi |
heh |
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kf |
magnuse: now I have to translate all your norwegian again! |
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kf |
or.. copy it over again with correct diacritics :) |
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magnuse |
kf: we really should find a better way to do that... |
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kf |
ah, it's ok :) |
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magnuse |
i hope normarc will be gone in 2-3 years time, though |
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magnuse |
well, i'd like not to worry about translating unimarc-specific stuff too... |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
yeah we must be able to do something about that |
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magnuse |
yay :-) |
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kf |
rangi++ for fixing the diacritics :) |
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rangi |
i did? |
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kf |
yep you did :) |
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kf |
broken diacritics in the po files |
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rangi |
oh cool |
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rangi |
yay |
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magnuse |
rangi++ # so awesome he fixes things without noticing ;-) |
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kf |
hehe |
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reed |
howdy |
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reed |
did I miss anything? |
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rangi |
lol |
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* reed |
has been under a rock for 6 or so months |
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rangi |
with a hobbit on top? |
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reed |
yep, and similar |
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reed |
hobbits w/ray guns |
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rangi |
ahhh |
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* rangi |
is just about to go to sleep, got a demo/meeting in the morning |
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reed |
it's an odd place for sure, fun tho |
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rangi |
but radio nz, 7.15am |
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reed |
have a good night, will catch you later |
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rangi |
check it out if you are awake |
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reed |
cool, will listen |
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reed |
probly will be |
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reed |
is jo going to set up an bank account? |
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liw |
hi, reed |
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hey! |
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reed |
i better wander off too, just wanted to check in; political agitation makes me want to write softwares as a way to fight back and silliness |
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reed |
night all |
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reed |
er something |
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reed |
anyhow, planning to try to get back into it now that I've adjusted to my new work schedule some |
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magnuse |
yay |
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:) |
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NateC |
Morning #Koha! |
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jwagner |
Hi, NateC |
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francharb |
hi again |
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francharb |
if i want to display the subscription tab on a specific biblio, i need biblio.serial=1, right? |
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kf |
I think that might be unimarc specific |
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francharb |
kf, i dont think so |
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kf |
I am not sure |
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francharb |
kf, you can map biblio.serial with any biblio field... |
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kf |
I thought for marc21 it's set to detect something in the leader |
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francharb |
ah ok |
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kf |
yep, but I think it's not mapped for marc21 |
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kf |
and the check uses the leader - but might be wrong |
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francharb |
thanks |
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oleonard |
The subscriptions tab displays if you have subscriptions attached to it |
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oleonard |
I don't think it obeys biblio.serial anymore |
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kf |
oleonard: that makes sense |
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boo! I missed Reed! |
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hey wizzyrea :) |
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Carl |
Hi! |
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Carl |
Carl here |
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Carl |
What about place holds on ordered material? |
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Carl |
Without any item records |
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kf |
youneed items to place holds |
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Carl |
well, I have heard that |
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kf |
but you can have items for ordered materials |
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Carl |
but our cataloguers doesn't like that |
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Carl |
:-) |
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kf |
it's eitheror |
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wizzyrea |
what our libraries do |
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Carl |
Que? |
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wizzyrea |
is create a dummy item |
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wizzyrea |
then turn that item into a "real" item when the first copy is received |
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Carl |
yes, that could be the way: a temporary item |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]g-on-order-items/ |
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Carl |
ok, thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
this is how my system does it |
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Carl |
Great! |
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oleonard |
Mine too |
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Carl |
ok, see ya! |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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jwagner |
morning, jcamins |
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oleonard |
jcamins: have you finished providing DNA samples for your coop application? |
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kf |
lol |
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jcamins |
oleonard: the DNA samples for Shari and me weren't too bad. |
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jcamins |
It was DNA samples going back four generations that was a bit problematic. |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
what does bar over bar mean?? |
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kf |
it's somewhere in the 007 plugin |
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jcamins |
Uhhh... no idea. |
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* oleonard |
hasn't heard that |
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Oak |
bar, james bar |
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jcamins |
Oh, music. |
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jcamins |
It's, you know, music. |
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kf |
? |
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Oak |
you are so analytical kf |
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jcamins |
Like for keyboards, with multiple hands. |
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Oak |
:) |
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kf |
Oak: that's new to me |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
and I am still confused |
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kf |
trying to finish the translation |
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* jcamins |
had never heard a special term for this. |
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kf |
and I have the german marc21 translation, but can't find the right term |
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Oak |
hm |
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jcamins |
kf: http://www.all-about-beethoven[…]lightsonata_I.pdf |
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kf |
ah |
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* Oak |
decides to let kf work |
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jcamins |
See, there's the right hand and the left hand, one on top of the other. |
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kf |
it's related to braille |
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* kf |
sends Oak cookies |
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kf |
jcamins: thx :) |
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Oak |
:) danke |
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jcamins |
kf: you're welcome. I'm not sure I'm riht. |
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jcamins |
Oh, yes, I am. |
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jcamins |
Cool! |
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oleonard |
being_right++ |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
jcamins++ :) |
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Oak |
jcamins++ |
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Carl |
Hi again! |
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Carl |
What about this: http://koha-community.org/plea[…]ua-library-trust/ |
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Carl |
It's horrendous |
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Oak |
? |
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Carl |
Or, do I missing the "big picture" |
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wizzyrea |
pretty sure you're not missing the big picture. |
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trea |
nope, not missing it. |
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Carl |
ok |
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Carl |
so, LibLime is just evil |
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Carl |
what about ByWater? |
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kf |
a- Safety base, undetermined? |
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Carl |
or the other commerical firms? |
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oleonard |
ByWater contributes all its developments back to the project |
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kf |
I think the big difference is that liblime does not offer koha - the others do |
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jcamins |
kf: that's film. |
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* wizzyrea |
imagines the safety base, immediately leaps to safety dance. |
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kf |
jcamins: yes, but no idea how to translate and can't find it *grumble+ |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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Carl |
ok |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]ovKfyTBII&ob=av3e |
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jcamins |
Photography book? |
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wizzyrea |
ah I miss the days when videos made sense ^.^ |
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Carl |
so, I guess this is a old and distressing issue |
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Barrc |
Anyone around who knows the member.pl script reasonably well? |
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wizzyrea |
carl: it's at least 3 years old |
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jcamins |
Barrc: make sure you have a default circulation rule for ALL-ALL-ALL. |
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jcamins |
Barrc: chances are good the lack of one is what's causing your problem. |
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kf |
jcamins: if it#s in film, why can't I find it :( |
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jcamins |
kf: I don't know. Do I look like a film expert? :) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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Barrc |
jcamins: But you haven't heard the problem yet!! |
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Carl |
wizzyrea: ok |
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kf |
jcamins: no, but you know a lot about marc21 :) |
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kf |
jcamins: and I needed someone to complain to |
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jcamins |
Barrc: true, that was going to be my next suggestion, that you tell us what it is. :) |
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* jcamins |
is in rare form today. |
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Barrc |
:-) |
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Barrc |
OK - for some patron searches I get this: |
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Barrc |
Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/member.pl line 138 |
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wizzyrea |
what version? |
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jcamins |
Barrc: hm. 3.6? |
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wahanui |
3.6 is, like, more relevant |
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wizzyrea |
define "some" |
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Barrc |
3.05.00.001 |
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Barrc |
that line - 138 - shows a dereferences value that doesn't exist - anywhere! |
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jcamins |
Barrc: you have corrupted patron records. |
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jcamins |
oleonard had this problem about a year ago. Does oleonard remember how it was solved? |
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Barrc |
jcamins: That is very possible! |
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oleonard |
I did? |
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oleonard |
The statute of limitations on that memory has expired. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: yeah, you did. Actually, it couldn't have been a year ago. 9 months, maybe. |
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Barrc |
The line in question is this: |
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Barrc |
%{$categories_dislay{$$borrower{categorycode}}}, |
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Barrc |
AAHHHH! |
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jcamins |
categories_dislay? That doesn't look right. |
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Barrc |
is it display> |
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Barrc |
instead of dislay |
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Barrc |
? |
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jcamins |
Seems possible. Could you update to 3.6.0? |
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Barrc |
I could..... |
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jcamins |
Nope, it's dislay. |
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jcamins |
Ooh! Check if your borrowers table still has a primary key. |
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jcamins |
Possibly you no longer have a primary key, and have duplicate borrowernumbers. |
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kf |
ouch! |
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wizzyrea |
would we have talked about it in IRC? |
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wizzyrea |
if so, it'd be in the log. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I suspect it would be in ByWater's ticketing system. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Now that sounds familiar |
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* wizzyrea |
looks around furtively |
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sekjal |
what issue? |
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Barrc |
primary key still intact |
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wahanui |
i think issue is if I want to do criculation (check out or check in) there will be an error in Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2829. |
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sekjal |
sorry (was in the other room) |
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sekjal |
ah, the hashref on 138? |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jcamins |
Barrc: hmm. So much for that idea. |
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Barrc |
sekjal - yes, it looks like its calling a value that doesn't exist |
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sekjal |
Barrc: ah, found it in our knowledge base |
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sekjal |
check the case on your borrower categorycodes |
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Barrc |
OK - should they be all lower? |
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jcamins |
Oh yeah. |
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sekjal |
upper, to match the code in the categories table |
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jcamins |
I was close. |
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Barrc |
cool - I will check it out. |
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Barrc |
sekjal: Thank you! lower case code in the borrowers table! Changing them now, I am sure that will resolve - thanks! |
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sekjal |
Barrc: glad to help |
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kf |
subfield c *cries* |
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jcamins |
kf: ? |
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* wizzyrea |
gives kf cookies |
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kf |
pootle works alphabetical |
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kf |
I am at subfield c- now |
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kf |
and there are a lot more |
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kf |
thx wizzyrea |
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* wizzyrea |
nods sympathetically |
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* kf |
really needs cookies |
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* jcamins |
bought eggs yesterday so he could bake. |
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* wizzyrea |
sends kf home made oatmeal chocolate chip coconut cookies |
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kf |
oooh! yummy! |
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jcamins |
Mmmm. |
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jcamins |
!! Mosfilm is posting 200 full films onto YouTube in 2011. |
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jcamins |
That's so cool! |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: that's a variant of my FAVORITE oatmeal cookie recipe - the one that you sent us that was coconut curry oatmeal cookies |
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jcamins |
:) |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I thought it might be. |
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* wizzyrea |
uses that recipe even if she doesn't put the curry in |
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rhcl |
I haven't had ginger snaps in 35 years |
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* jcamins |
too |
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wizzyrea |
love it because you can put fruit, nuts, chocolate, whatever in it and it always tastes good. |
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wizzyrea |
rhcl: pity, we made some just a couple of weeks ago |
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wizzyrea |
and they were delightful |
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rhcl |
oh |
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rhcl |
well, good, I'm glad you enjoyed them. |
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rhcl |
delightful, huh? |
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rhcl |
I can almost taste them |
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rhcl |
but not, of course |
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wizzyrea |
nod |
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kf |
sekjal: around? |
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sekjal |
kf: yes |
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kf |
can you take a look at bug 7250 perhaps? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7250 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , stage_biblios_file.pl is missing options for encodings, wrongly passing the MARC flavour instead |
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kf |
I am not sure how many people use that script |
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kf |
Uli tested it today and gave it a sign-off, but might need an external one too? |
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sekjal |
kf: will look |
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kf |
thx |
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Oak |
kf, time to go home. |
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kf |
Oak: right :) |
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Oak |
:) |
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jcamins |
I need a synonym for "film," that refers to the physical stuff. |
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kf |
tape? |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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kf |
or what do youmean with physical? |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
and I was so bad at synonyms at school :) |
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jcamins |
That's what I meant. |
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wizzyrea |
plastic film? |
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jcamins |
Hm, actually, that won't work, because people will understand "tape" to mean "VHS." |
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wizzyrea |
photographic plastic film |
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wizzyrea |
negatives? |
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wizzyrea |
photographic film? |
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kf |
bye :) |
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wizzyrea |
roll film? |
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jcamins |
Panchromatic film. |
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wizzyrea |
but yea, they're all types of film |
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jcamins |
Or Orthochromatic film. |
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wizzyrea |
because you have monochromatic film too |
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jcamins |
Probably orthochromatic film. |
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wizzyrea |
roll film |
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wizzyrea |
is what I would do |
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wizzyrea |
most film comes in rolls |
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wizzyrea |
of one sort or another |
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wizzyrea |
except of course polaroid |
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jcamins |
Ooh, "nitrate film" is probably clearest. |
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wizzyrea |
photographic material |
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wizzyrea |
celluloid |
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sekjal |
kf: 7250 passed QA |
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jcamins |
celluloid. Nice! |
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jcamins |
Thanks! |
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wizzyrea |
lol yw |
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magnuse |
sekjal: someone said bywater might be working on letting patrons self-register in the opac - ring any bells? |
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sekjal |
magnuse: yes, we've got a couple libraries requesting that functionality |
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sekjal |
no spec yet (so no code, either) |
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oleonard |
That's on our list for possible development in the next year |
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magnuse |
ah, ok, thanks |
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oleonard |
sponsorship that is |
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magnuse |
cool |
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magnuse |
i think Carl might be interested in that too, but i see he's not round anymore |
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magnuse |
sekjal, oleonard: can i namedrop the two of you to him, in case he's interested in discussing sharing the costs? |
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oleonard |
Fine by me |
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sekjal |
gladly |
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magnuse |
cool, thanks |
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sekjal |
I'd love to see an open, community-based spec for this |
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magnuse |
open++ |
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magnuse |
community-based++ |
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sekjal |
I'm sure any one libraries use-case would differ from another's, but if we can all chip in on how we'd want to use it, we can code more generically |
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* oleonard |
is picturing some kind of matrix |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
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* jcamins |
pictures patrons dodging bullets as they register for library cards. |
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jcamins |
(a la Matrix) |
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sekjal |
jcamins: when the times comes, they won't have to |
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magnuse |
something with vertically scrolling green text, eh? |
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oleonard |
sekjal: :D |
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wizzyrea |
rofl |
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jcamins |
sekjal++ # _that_'s taking the ball and running with it :) |
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sekjal |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
hey bag, how about b_g |
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magnuse |
thanks folks! time to make dinner here |
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jcamins |
Mmm. Pizza Tuesday? |
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jcamins |
Oh, wait, no, that's here in New York, not in Norway. :) |
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b_g |
hmm… |
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wizzyrea |
or b.g |
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wizzyrea |
or b.g. |
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wizzyrea |
b_g kind of looks like a face ^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
brendang? |
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brendangallagher |
bren dang |
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oleonard |
or brendagnabbit |
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brendangallagher |
how about dang |
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wizzyrea |
dangnabbit is a great name |
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* wizzyrea |
giggles |
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wizzyrea |
bilbio? |
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wizzyrea |
has a bit of an italian flair |
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francharb |
bye all |
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magnus_afk |
jcamins: friday is pizza day, at least where i am ;-) today is duck breast and orange sauce day |
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jcamins |
magnus_afk: mmm. That sounds tasty. |
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* jcamins |
has been having pizza a lot recently, because Shari can *always* be persuaded to eat pizza. All bets are off for other food. |
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magnus_afk |
heh |
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magnus_afk |
Shari++ |
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* paul_p |
head home |
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paul_p |
see you tomorrow #koha |
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bilbo |
heh /nick bilbio |
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Oak |
hello miss cait :) |
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wizzyrea |
bye paul_p thanks for pushing the patches this week :D |
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Oak |
paul_p++ |
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Oak |
me go now. time to sleep. later. |
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cait |
yep, paul_p++ |
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cait |
and hi all :) |
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wizzyrea |
wb cait :) |
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slef |
hi all |
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wizzyrea |
hi slef :) |
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magnus_afk |
hiya slef |
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magnus_afk |
just curious - any news on the dates for kohacon12? |
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slef |
no :((( |
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magnus_afk |
no worries - we'll get there ;-) |
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slef |
basically we asked how to pay one venue, now tumbleweed is blowing through... very strange! |
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slef |
and I'm busy with 99 red balloo^W^W other things |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
slef: hope it works out soon :) |
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slef |
me too |
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Brooke |
o/ |
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oleonard |
Hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
oleonard++ |
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sekjal |
hey, Brooke |
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Brooke |
howday |
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* Brooke |
munches on her vestigial pulled pork sammich. |
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fredericd |
Has anybody get Koha SIP server get working with 3.4 version? |
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fredericd |
For me, it does't work as it used to. |
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sekjal |
fredericd: I've had SIP working from 3.2 to current |
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sekjal |
what's the issue you're having? |
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fredericd |
I can't describe... Command-line scenarios works but when connecting 3M Self Check, it doesn't work. There are some timeouts... |
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fredericd |
I can't say more precisely. I will try with anothe self check |
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Brooke |
hmm |
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Brooke |
sekjal do you know where dpavlin's notes are? |
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sekjal |
notes from KohaCon? |
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Brooke |
yeah those might help too |
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Brooke |
in case you're off line when frederic has questions |
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mtj |
oooh, jo on the radio in NZ |
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Brooke |
yep |
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Brooke |
station? |
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fredericd |
For example, a first check out takes ages to proceed, and then a following check out fails because the response from koha sip server seems to arrive lately |
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fredericd |
and it isn't network latencies |
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fredericd |
arrive lately for the first check out... |
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mtj |
http://www.radionz.co.nz/natio[…]november-2011.asx |
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sekjal |
fredericd: what do the logs show? anything? |
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cait |
there were some patches pushed in between |
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cait |
to sip |
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fredericd |
cait: that's what I have to look at |
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fredericd |
I have 3M and Koha logs. Koha logs seem fine and 3M logs report timeout |
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cait |
we have tested some of the pushed patches- hope nothing was missed |
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fredericd |
and it seems that the self check get crazy sending 99 command |
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cait |
we also have 2 libraries using sip server with 3.2.2 right now |
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cait |
my coworker is the expert here :( |
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slef |
random reply to the PTFS FU: OCCUPY KOHA! :) |
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Brooke |
rofl |
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fredericd |
Ulrich Kleiber? |
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fredericd |
I can see his patch |
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cait |
yes |
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fredericd |
And there is also a Colin patch, adding autoflush... |
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fredericd |
that's all |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
fredericd: I am looking at bugzilla |
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cait |
bug 5586? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5586 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , SIP line-endings should use proper SPEC-compliant \r |
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fredericd |
bug 6620 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6620 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Sip Server Output may be buffered |
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ibeardslee |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]r-software-patent |
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ibeardslee |
sigh .. legendary stuff reporting accuracy |
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fredericd |
cait: but you're correct, there is also a patch for your bug... |
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slef |
mtj: have I missed jransom or is she a long way into this asx? |
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rangi |
morning |
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Brooke |
morena |
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rangi |
ibeardslee: jo was just on nat radio |
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rangi |
which 4 days out from election, its pretty amazing |
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rangi |
shows the public interest |
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* Brooke |
nods. |
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oleonard-away |
We in the US are doing our part by having corporations evil enough to make the phrase "United States corporation" sound evil |
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rangi |
heh |
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Brooke |
ain't no humour like gallows humour cause gallows humour don't stop. |
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jcamins |
Always look on the bright side of life! |
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* jcamins |
whistles. |
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cait |
morning rangi, hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
howdy Cait. |
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* Brooke |
sings with jcamins. |
18:49 |
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Brooke |
"Life is full of shite, when you look at it." |
18:49 |
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cait |
lol |
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Brooke |
I think we should go off broadway, brah. |
18:49 |
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Brooke |
2 geeks sing showtunes |
18:49 |
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Brooke |
what's not to like? |
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cait |
heh |
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Brooke |
proper link is http://www.radionz.co.nz/natio[…]demark-'koha'.asx slef |
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slef |
poc |
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slef |
oic, even |
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* rangi |
is off to listen to a presentation on koha to a lot of 3 letter govt depts |
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ibeardslee |
I think it is just awesome the publicity |
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ibeardslee |
just sad that it is because of that |
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slef |
Connecting to server streaming.radionz.co.nz[202.7.7.96]: 80... |
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slef |
read: Resource temporarily unavailable |
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slef |
Failed, exiting. |
18:54 |
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ibeardslee |
AND a bonus, it is also highlighting to the general public that there is amazing stuff that comes from .nz (although Koha itself is now has people working on it globally) |
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Brooke |
try here too |
18:54 |
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Brooke |
http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/m[…]mark_koha-048.mp3 |
18:54 |
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slef |
tyvm |
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sekjal |
yes, ty Brooke |
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Brooke |
no problem |
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rangi |
yeah way bigger than just nz now |
18:55 |
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* Brooke |
is not just another pretty face. |
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ibeardslee |
rangi: enjoy, and it'll be interesting to see what those 3 letter departments think if the trademark issue |
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rangi |
*nod* |
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rangi |
slef++ |
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slef |
I'm doing a nice line in annoyed lately :-/ |
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slef |
I'm moving regions, so looking at the equivalent of the failed RISE co-op for my new region... and seeing some of the same anti-patterns in it. |
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rangi |
ahhh |
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slef |
I don't really want to reboot, rinse and repeat that experience. |
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cait |
? |
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slef |
Membership in one failed business support co-op is quite enough, thanks. |
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slef |
cait: ? |
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cait |
ignore me - tired |
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cait |
:) |
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jcamins |
slef: I suggest that you use a 200-page application. |
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slef |
jcamins: sounds like a way to make a co-op fail, but what do I know? ;-) |
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jcamins |
slef: I'm _sure_ that's how it should be done. |
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Brooke |
maybe you should purchase another corporation, fail to find a business model, and then just pirate shite for fun and profit. |
19:24 |
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slef |
Your message to Koha awaits moderator approval // Too many recipients |
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slef |
bleah |
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jcamins |
Brooke: I was thinking about doing that. |
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Brooke |
can I be first mate? I'll even buy a parrot/ |
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jcamins |
It depends. How are you at dealing with arrers? |
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Brooke |
To the brig! |
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ibeardslee |
where the chains are? |
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wizzyrea |
walk the plank! |
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mtj |
hmm, someone needs to correct that 'stuff' article head-line :/ |
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mtj |
'Small library fights US corporation over software patent' |
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wizzyrea |
yea it's not quite right |
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mtj |
trademark, not patent |
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wizzyrea |
content is correct tho |
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mtj |
i might drop them a clue |
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ibeardslee |
@nzstuff on twitter |
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huginn |
ibeardslee: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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ibeardslee |
shush, wasn't talking to you |
19:35 |
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slef |
can we rename it "HLT's ratbag-repelling fund"? |
19:35 |
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slef |
;) |
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Brooke |
++ |
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Brooke |
I just read that and laughed loud enough to draw an eyebrow from the little mister. |
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ibeardslee |
Stuff has changed the title of the article |
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Brooke |
outstanding |
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Brooke |
Whose tubes? Our tubes! |
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ibeardslee |
o_0 |
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slef |
I think Brooke is getting militent. |
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wizzyrea |
http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/m[…]mark_koha-048.mp3 |
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Brooke |
now, now, I'll have you know that not too many years ago, a petty dictator referred to me in a blanket statement as a professional troublemaker. |
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Brooke |
My response was "Where's my paycheck?" |
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slef |
ok, posted to http://www.software.coop/ front page |
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wizzyrea |
slef++ |
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slef |
I am tempted to post "RT @tararobertson: Wow. PTFS/LibLime are a bunch of dicks: http://t.co/3UegADF0 #kohails" but probably shouldn't. :) |
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mtj |
yep, the absolute baseline :) |
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rangi |
bbl |
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oleonard |
Not sure why any of that needed to be off the record? |
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* jcamins |
neither. |
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wahanui |
neither is running out of time and beeing a nolifer because of all the zebra problems... |
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jcamins |
wahanui: true. |
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wahanui |
true. is probably it possible to have automatic recurring invoices for each patron? |
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oleonard |
jcamins: yeah, and if there's prior art you shouldn't get a patent. We all see how well that works. |
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slef |
I just did it because I was replying to an off the record comment. |
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slef |
oleonard: I signed a call for a World Intellectual Wealth Organisation to replace WIPO, years ago. Some battles don't change. |
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wizzyrea |
forget true |
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slef |
forget true. |
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slef |
wahanui: forget true. |
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wahanui |
slef, I didn't have anything matching true |
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slef |
heh |
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mtj |
heh , i did it to be funny , coz i said "for the record" :p |
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slef |
silent forgetfulness |
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* wizzyrea |
pulled the jedi mind trick on wahanui |
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* Brooke |
<3s Jedi Mind Tricks. |
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mtj |
i'm looking forward to a response from PTFS about this NZ trademark stuff |
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francharb_away |
i'm looking forward to a response from mtj about ra one |
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francharb_away |
;) |
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mtj |
... i guess they are trying to work out if its a better strategy for them to reply, or to shut-up |
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mtj |
haaay, we did see it - across from victoria station |
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francharb_away |
neat! |
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francharb_away |
how was it? did you like it? |
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mtj |
so it was quite exciting seeing VT station explode in the movie!! |
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francharb_away |
i got the soundtrack before leaving... i was less than 200 rupies |
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francharb_away |
:) |
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francharb_away |
thats right! |
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francharb_away |
i forgot about that |
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francharb_away |
wooo |
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francharb_away |
you got the whole experience |
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francharb_away |
was it 3D? |
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mtj |
(we could have possibly been hurt in real life, given the cinema's proximity to the station) |
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francharb_away |
heh |
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mtj |
yep, 3D :p |
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francharb_away |
lucky you! |
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mtj |
the 'chummy chello' song is still sung often |
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oleonard |
I'm not aware of PTFS responding publicly to things like this. In the past they've only used proxies |
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mtj |
"will you be my 'chummy chello'?" |
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francharb_away |
hey ho hey ho |
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chris_n |
cfouts has already responded |
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chris_n |
probably their first "proxy" shot |
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francharb_away |
it's chammak challo by the way but who cares? ;) |
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* francharb |
wondering what kmkale thought about it... |
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francharb |
@later tell kmkale : so ra one? from the perspective of somebody who do understand indi... is it that bad? |
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huginn |
francharb: The operation succeeded. |
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mtj |
'chummy chello' has makes more sense in kiwi |
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francharb |
i bet! |
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mtj |
loosely translates to 'friendy friend' :)p |
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francharb |
have you seen the indglish version? |
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Brooke |
Character Dheela > Chammak Challo |
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* Brooke |
might have drunk the Sallu kool aid... |
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* oleonard |
shakes his fist at Koha's error handling |
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oleonard |
I must have deleted a title on a list, and now I can't open the list |
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jcamins |
oleonard: fear not! Brooke is here to throw them into the brig! |
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oleonard |
Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Koha.pm line 1217. |
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Brooke |
yarrrr |
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jcamins |
oleonard: didn't we fix that bug? |
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wizzyrea |
indexing? |
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wahanui |
indexing is done by Zebra. |
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francharb |
wahanui? |
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wahanui |
yes, francharb? |
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francharb |
:) |
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Brooke |
wahanui is at least partially slow. |
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Brooke |
wahanui? |
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wahanui |
yes, Brooke? |
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Brooke |
wahanui wahanui is at least partially slow. |
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wahanui |
...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information... |
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oleonard |
Not indexing I don't think.. XSLT |
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Brooke |
wahanui wahanui is also at least partially slow. |
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wahanui |
okay, Brooke. |
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* francharb |
waving all of you good bye! |
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francharb |
see ya! |
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jcamins |
wahanui? |
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wahanui |
yes, jcamins? |
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jcamins |
wahanui: wahanui? |
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wahanui |
i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. |
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wizzyrea |
wow! I have books in my catalog that were accessioned in the year 9999! |
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slef |
oleonard: or responded in private with things I read as threats. |
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slef |
wizzyrea: #FAIL |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
i k now right! |
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wizzyrea |
even funnier - the earliest of the insane dates is 2012 |
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oleonard |
Hm, no, not XSLT, just bad error handling |
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Brooke |
Zoia is much cooler than Waha or Huginn. Summat must be done. |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph. |
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* Brooke |
has bot envy summat fierce. |
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* wizzyrea |
loves our bots |
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wizzyrea |
this is awesome, eythian++ sekjal++ http://blog.openlibrary.org/20[…]/22/kohacon-2011/ |
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indradg |
guys did anyone speak about "approval basis" acquisition support for Koha during last KohaCon? |
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indradg |
Brooke, ^^^ |
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jcamins |
indradg: how would you build on-approval ordering into an ILS? |
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indradg |
jcamins, sounds crazy... right? but thats a way a lot of indian libraries, particularly the public libraries deal with acquisition |
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jcamins |
indradg: no, on-approval makes perfect sense to me. |
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jcamins |
I want to know how to build it into an ILS. |
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jcamins |
Most acquisitions in special collections are on-approval, too. |
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indradg |
jcamins, what happens is that publishers and sellers dump "New arrivals" the libraries picks and choose, but until they do, they need some way to track it |
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indradg |
its a fairly standard practice at public libs |
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jcamins |
Yeah, but once you've added the book to your catalog, the public thinks the books will be available for use. |
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indradg |
that has to be the trick... only available on the staff client, for approval trail |
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Brooke |
oops, I broke #koha again. |
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* Brooke |
plugs teh Interweb cord back in... |
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What, now everyone's afraid to speak? |
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oleonard |
Hi Kiwi |
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Brooke |
o/ Kiwi |
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maximep |
bye Wiki :p |
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wizzyrea |
i guess so. |
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oleonard |
Bye all |
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wizzyrea |
by... always too slow |
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Brooke |
indeed |
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Brooke |
oleonard is wiley |
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Brooke |
some other day, cap'n. |
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wizzyrea |
I think I've only caught him once |
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Brooke |
this sounds like excellent fodder for a sekrit bot game... |
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Brooke |
wb cait |
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mtj |
ooh, Koha trademark on nat-radio NZ again, this morning... |
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mtj |
http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/n[…]ontroversy-00.ogg |
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cait |
again? oh |
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mtj |
expert was a bit waffly on this one... but still a good effort |
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* sekjal |
listens |
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* wizzyrea |
listens too |
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cait |
http://lwn.net/Articles/468838/#Comments |
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Brooke |
I don't think he was waffly at all. |
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Brooke |
the host was certainly not neutral. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
"Horror story!" |
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cait |
hm? |
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wizzyrea |
oh the radio link |
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wizzyrea |
right at the end she talks about how it's a horror story |
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rangi |
back |
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cait |
wb :) |
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ibeardslee |
that nine to noon programme does seem to be quite open to 'open'. gnat (Nat Torkington) has a regular session on there. |
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* moodaepo |
shakes his head somewhat exasperated (been shaking it since yesterday of course) sheesh |
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wizzyrea |
this one has gotten quite a bit more traction than our other scuffles. |
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* Brooke |
agrees. |
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Brooke |
I think it's because the thievery is more flagrant than on average. |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal! |
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wizzyrea |
that tweet is hilarious! |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal++ |
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sekjal |
:) |
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* moodaepo |
already sent a message to a friend who recently started work at a LibLimeKoha institution to see if they can migrate off : ) |
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wizzyrea |
that really made me laugh, thanks. |
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sekjal |
glad it worked as intended. |
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Brooke |
so it passes QA? |
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ibeardslee |
rangi: was the trademark mentioned at the presentation? |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
a number of times |
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sekjal |
rules say I can't pass my own work through QA, so I leave that to the community to determine |
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rangi |
with disgust |
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ibeardslee |
anyone high enough up to wander to the appropriate people and apply beatings? |
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* wizzyrea |
passes that - definitely working as intended. |
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Brooke |
I'll countersign ;) |
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Brooke |
ibeardslee: I'd rather not get arrested, but I am close enough to apply scorn. |
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cait |
good night # koha |
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rangi |
night cait |
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cait |
:) |
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Brooke |
d'oh too slow. |
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tea! |
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goodnight, #koha! I'll be back Monday (the holiday starts for me right about.... now!) |
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