IRC log for #koha, 2011-11-17

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00:02 Phlunk3 both rangi , sorry for late reply got calls
00:03 rangi right
00:03 rangi then yeah the usual, as fast as cpu and as much ram as you can afford
00:03 rangi cos running X uses a lot of both cpu and ram
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00:03 rangi well x doesnt
00:04 rangi but all the stuff on top of it does ;)
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00:04 Phlunk3 thanks mate, doing this on the cheap as they will be gifted to the fijian town councils as an introduction to the system.
00:04 rangi yup
00:04 rangi you want to do it not too cheap
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00:04 rangi or you will be doing them a disservice
00:04 Phlunk3 indeed
00:04 rangi thats the balancing act
00:05 ibeardslee I sort of do think it worthwhile running the server on a separate machine. helps the idea that koha itself doesn't have to be installed on each workstation.
00:06 ibeardslee also helps show people checking out books on a different workstation etc
00:07 ibeardslee but does mean the added work of having a hub/switch and setting up the neworking
00:08 rangi yeah maybe phase 2
00:08 Phlunk3 yeah ibeardslee however this way we're able to set it all up here, I spent 2 days walking an "it officer" through the installation process, only to realise he didnt know how to even copy paste commands :P
00:09 Phlunk3 they have a real server there now, sort of, had to have him install a gui on ubuntu so I could remote session through a program because he didnt know how to open a port on his router so that I could ssh lol
00:09 rangi we should send ibeardslee to fiji to set it up :)
00:10 Phlunk3 if you're willing to sponsor a community member then please let me know ;) we have a librarian heading over at the beginning of December to introduce them to the system also.
00:31 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7238] The SIPconfig.xml is stored in the C4/SIP dir <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7238>
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00:46 Brooke o/
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00:58 Brooke homie g. Whaddup?
00:59 rhcl_away I'm away
01:00 rhcl_away ?
01:06 rangi hiya Brooke
01:06 Brooke morena
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01:33 dani :( Missed Brooke
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03:02 Brooke o/
03:02 rangi wb Brooke
03:02 Brooke :)
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03:19 Judit HI
03:19 Brooke hi Judit.
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03:22 AmitG heya chris
03:22 AmitG :D
03:23 Brooke hi Amit
03:24 dani Heya Brooke!
03:25 dani Brooke: I did the job hop thing this week.
03:25 Brooke howdy m'am
03:25 Brooke awesome!
03:25 AmitG heya Brooke, dani
03:27 dani Hi AmitG!
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03:35 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7239] Acquisitions basket, add order to basket, from new, Source of classification or shelving scheme being blank caused internal error <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7239>
03:38 rangi rangi?
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04:48 Irma Hi all
04:49 Irma can anyone give me the link to the recommended server specs for a Koha implementation ....? I can't find this info yet thought it was in the Koha Manual...
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06:13 cait good morning #koha
06:14 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:14 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (7:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
06:14 jransom morning Cait
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06:17 cait hi jo
06:17 Judit hi
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06:28 cait hi Judit
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06:33 cait hi kmkale
06:37 Oak oh hello miss cait :)
06:37 cait hi mr oak :)
06:38 Oak how are we today?
06:39 Oak leaving for work?
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07:05 cait Oak: yes, soon
07:05 cait Oak: how are you today? relaxing after oyur exams?
07:05 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:05 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1�C (8:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising).
07:14 cait morning magnuse
07:15 Oak well, not relaxing. on work. but yes, kind of relaxing. anything other than exams is relaxing.
07:16 Oak too many 'relaxing's above
07:16 magnuse morning cait and Oak
07:16 Oak magnuse
07:16 magnuse Oak
07:16 Oak got a light?
07:17 magnuse i can find one?
07:17 Oak never mind. i don't smoke.
07:19 cait ?
07:19 Oak i really should not quit my day job.
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07:52 reiveune hello
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08:29 Schwitzd Hello to everybody!
08:29 rangi hi Schwitzd
08:29 Schwitzd I have a question reguarding the book retourning
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08:29 kf hi #koha
08:30 Schwitzd For example
08:30 magnuse hi kf rangi Schwitzd
08:30 Schwitzd magnuse: ciao!
08:30 kf god morgen magnuse :)
08:30 Schwitzd How I can enable to send an email if the reservation is overdate?
08:30 kf you mean if the patron has not picked it up?
08:30 kf in time?
08:31 kf or when the hold is placed in the pickup area for the patron?
08:31 Schwitzd if the patron don't retourn the book
08:31 Schwitzd I set the patron can reserve the book for 20 days
08:31 Schwitzd if don't retorn the book in this date I want to send to parton an email
08:32 Schwitzd "your reservation is over date please retourn the book...."
08:32 kf rangi++
08:32 kf ah
08:32 kf I think you mean: checked out books that get overdue
08:33 Schwitzd yes
08:33 kf http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ticetriggers.html
08:34 kf http://manual.koha-community.o[…]4/en/notices.html
08:34 kf http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n/cronjobsch.html
08:34 kf what you need to do is, configure an overdue notice and configure the cronjob
08:34 kf depending on the time schedule you want to use, you will also need to set up your notice triggers
08:40 Schwitzd oky
08:41 Schwitzd the / there is the cronjob
08:41 kf you also need the overdues cronjob
08:41 kf it prepares the mails, process_message_queue sends them out
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08:43 Schwitzd is this one, right?
08:44 kf yes
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08:45 paul_p hello everybody & good morning European ppl !
08:45 kf good morning Paul :)
08:47 magnuse kia ora paul_p
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09:00 francharb morning #koha
09:00 kf hi francharb
09:03 magnuse hiya francharb
09:03 francharb hi kf, magnuse !
09:07 Schwitzd kf: oky
09:07 Schwitzd now my problem is the email is not generated...
09:07 Schwitzd I have a overdue for one one user
09:07 Schwitzd but the don't generate the mail
09:10 kf how long is it overdue?
09:10 kf which parameters are you using for your overdue_notices pl?
09:11 Schwitzd nothing
09:11 Schwitzd the overdue is 21 days
09:11 Schwitzd and no parameters
09:11 kf yeah
09:11 kf you have tot ell it what to do
09:11 kf do you have a notice configured?
09:12 Schwitzd yes
09:12 kf and notice triggers?
09:12 Schwitzd yes
09:12 kf ok
09:12 kf try starting with -t
09:12 Schwitzd no output
09:12 Schwitzd the is a verbose mode?
09:13 kf I think there is
09:13 kf try -h to see the options
09:14 kf it's pretty good documented
09:14 kf altough the script is doing too many things
09:14 kf where do you check if the notice was generated?
09:14 kf and where are you from Schwitzd?
09:15 Schwitzd on the db
09:15 Schwitzd message_queue table
09:15 kf message_queue
09:15 kf right
09:15 kf ah
09:15 kf if you use notice triggers
09:16 kf and the thing is 21 days overdue
09:16 kf you have to have one that has delay  21
09:16 kf it's only sending out notices on the exact day
09:16 kf not in the range of days
09:16 kf you can do that too, but without -t then
09:16 kf using other options
09:18 Schwitzd I give you some print screen
09:19 kf I was wondering abut your nick - where are you located?
09:20 Schwitzd Switzerland
09:20 kf ah
09:20 kf Sprichst du deutsch?
09:20 Schwitzd no :)
09:20 Schwitzd south of switzerland tessin
09:21 kf ah, I am from Konstanz
09:21 Schwitzd :)
09:26 Schwitzd kf:
09:27 kf when your item is 21 days overdue, and your delays are 1 3 5
09:27 kf no notice will be generated
09:27 kf it's too overdue
09:27 kf try setting your third to 21
09:27 kf to see what I mean
09:27 Schwitzd
09:27 kf when using -t it will only go out on the exact date
09:27 kf and I recommend studying the documention for the cronjob :)
09:27 kf most information is in there
09:28 Schwitzd I read the documentation
09:28 Schwitzd also in one book
09:28 Schwitzd but I don't now why the mail is not generated :S
09:28 kf I mean look at the source code for the job
09:28 kf to see the different options available
09:29 kf because your overdue doesn't match the criteria
09:29 kf for generating a notice
09:29 kf with the configuration you use right now
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09:32 Schwitzd kf: what I don't have understood is
09:32 Schwitzd the duedate for the book is 17.11 (today)
09:33 kf ah
09:33 kf yeah, not overdue at all then
09:33 kf first notice you can send out is tomorrow
09:33 kf what you can send out now is a due notice
09:33 kf and that is controlled by the enhmessaging system preference and the preferences set in the patron's account
09:33 kf and you need a due notice... sorry, I missed that before :(
09:34 Schwitzd wait I want to do a test
09:34 Schwitzd i set the duedate yesterday for this book
09:35 Schwitzd (is a test enviroment) :P
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09:40 kf ah, there is also another factor
09:40 wahanui okay, kf.
09:41 kf hm. or no, that should work
09:41 kf delay = 1, date_due yesterday, overdue_notice with -t
09:43 Schwitzd \o/
09:43 Schwitzd is working!!!
09:43 kf yay!
09:43 kf very cool :)
09:43 kf another thing that is useful to know:
09:44 kf if you have more than one book overdue for the patron
09:44 kf it will only look at the oldest due date
09:44 kf we have a bug open for that, but sadly it didn't make it in yet
09:44 Schwitzd ok
09:44 Schwitzd but I don't think is my case
09:44 Schwitzd is a little company library
09:44 Schwitzd :)
09:45 kf :)
09:47 Schwitzd kf: thanks a lot for your help!
09:47 kf you are welcome .)
09:49 rangi kf++
09:50 Schwitzd kf: Use of uninitialized value $fine in string at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/ line 673.
09:50 Schwitzd now I have this message when I start the script
09:51 magnuse kf++
09:52 Schwitzd but is working
09:55 kf ah
09:55 kf yes
09:55 kf I always get that
09:55 Schwitzd oky :)
09:55 kf I think it's something we should fix... but you can ingore it
09:56 kf you can output the fine for an item in the notice
09:56 kf I think if there is no fine, it produces this warning
09:59 Schwitzd ok
10:11 kf @wunder Konstanz
10:11 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0�C (11:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Rising).
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10:31 magnuse @wunder boo
10:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (11:20 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
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11:46 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2�C (12:40 PM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising).
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13:18 NateC Hello #koha!
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13:21 oleonard Hello #koha too!
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13:31 JesseM Morning #Koha
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13:41 kf hi JesseM :)
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14:18 oleonard sekjal, NateC, etc: Is ByWater involved in FulfILLment testing?
14:19 sekjal morning, oleonard.  no, not at this time
14:20 * oleonard supposes since Equinox is a Koha provider they have their own resources for testing
14:20 JesseM Hey kf!
14:21 kf hey :)
14:21 kf and hi oleonard and sekjal :)
14:23 oleonard We're dealing with annoying bugs in the current state-wide ILL system and are told that they'll either upgrade VDX or switch to FulfILLment in January
14:24 oleonard ...but I hate being in the dark about the testing process
14:26 jcamins_away oleonard: testing? Why would you want that?
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14:26 oleonard I know, where's my spirit of fun and surprise?
14:26 jcamins Next you'll be telling us that library patrons should be able to easily get books from other libraries in the state!
14:27 oleonard Far be it from me to think that the first public library in Ohio should be in on testing an open source ILL system that is supposed to connect to Koha
14:27 oleonard first Koha public library that is
14:29 kf and hi jcamins :)
14:30 oleonard Oh no, new Twilight saga movie premieres tonight and I'm out of sparkles!
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14:32 jcamins oleonard: silly oleonard! :)
14:32 * oleonard is just a poor planner all around
14:32 jcamins kf: good morning.
14:35 kf lol
14:35 kf oleonard++ :)
14:37 magnuse i was talking to someone a while ago about maybe having a live irc qa session with someone close to the fullfillment development...
14:37 magnuse get a little demo, get answers to koha-related questions, perhaps...
14:37 kf sounds like a good idea
14:38 magnuse shouldn't be too hard to make that real
14:38 magnuse "how hard can it be?" ;-)
14:39 magnuse got a plane to catch - see ya's!
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14:42 * oleonard sees bshum, moodaepo, and phasefx in the #fulfillment channel on freenode
14:42 oleonard ...but everyone's just lurking
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15:03 oleonard ...kinda like in here...
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15:04 jcamins oleonard: this is IRC. There's a several decade tradition of lurking. ;)
15:05 chris_n @wunder 28334
15:05 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 12.4�C (10:02 AM EST on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Steady).
15:07 wizzyrea kansas is going to be testing fulfillment too
15:08 oleonard Heard anything about the process wizzyrea?
15:08 wizzyrea @quote add jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking.
15:08 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #166 added.
15:08 wizzyrea for fulfillment? I haven't heard a whole lot about it no
15:09 wizzyrea NEKLS is supposedly going to be involved with it somehow (as we're the biggest of the regional koha consortia
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15:09 wizzyrea kansas* regional koha consortia
15:09 rhcl_away The evergreen channel is pretty busy
15:10 * oleonard wonders how a library called "Evergreen Community Library" can not be on Evergreen. http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]
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15:10 oleonard They should get a complimentary installation
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15:14 maximep hey guys, when I do a search in the OPAC for something that has only 1 item and it's notforloan, with XSLT it says copies available
15:15 maximep with XSLT off it says No items available
15:15 maximep is that a bug that the behavior is different?
15:18 wizzyrea well, it *is* available
15:18 wizzyrea you just can't check it out
15:20 maximep hmmm right, it says available for reference now
15:20 wizzyrea it's probably a bug that it's different, but getting people to agree on what it should say
15:20 wizzyrea would be the hard part lol
15:20 wizzyrea available for reference is probably what you want it to say
15:20 wizzyrea makes sense to me anyway
15:21 maximep xslt caching is killing me :/
15:22 jcamins maximep: XSLT caching?
15:22 wahanui somebody said XSLT caching was killing me :/
15:22 oleonard wahanui's memory is impeccable.
15:22 maximep haha
15:22 jcamins wahanui: forget XSLT caching
15:22 wahanui jcamins: I forgot xslt caching
15:22 maximep yeah, looking at the code the variable stylesheet of XSLTParse4Display is global
15:23 maximep so it seems it's only parsing 1 time for pages
15:23 rhcl hey, this is cool: "Ducks Unlimited Canada Now Live On Koha"[…]sitem.php?id=2176  - just now noticed it
15:23 wizzyrea well also, there's a certain delay between when you change something and it gets reflected in the index
15:23 maximep i seem to have bugs with that
15:23 rhcl talking about a koha connector for fullfilment on the fullfilment channel right now
15:24 maximep probably because were using mod_perl
15:24 jcamins maximep: you're using mod_perl? I thought Koha still had too many leaks for mod_perl.
15:24 maximep were using it for the opac only
15:24 maximep intranet is completly unusable with it
15:25 wizzyrea good thing you're keeping all of your work on that to yourself.
15:25 maximep we have no work on that :S
15:25 maximep only sysadmin configs
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15:28 kf I think several people have been experimenting with mod_perl
15:28 maximep i guess we could share our config if anyone would like to test it
15:28 kf rangi and I think sekjal
15:28 kf perhaps worth to discuss it on a meeting sometime
15:28 wizzyrea it wouldn't hurt to slap it up on the wiki
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15:30 wizzyrea hm, this is a very trivial thing - but if you are adding a guaranteed child to an adult
15:30 wizzyrea and koha says "I think there is a dupe here" and you resubmit the child form
15:30 wizzyrea it duplicates the guarantee record
15:30 kf oh
15:31 wizzyrea but the child patron isn't duplicated
15:31 wizzyrea just the guarantee record
15:31 kf word--
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15:43 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7134] patron records getting funny birthdays <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7134>
15:44 sekjal kf:  yes, i've been playing with mod_perl
15:45 sekjal using ModPerl::PerlRun, I can get a pretty good performance boost without needing to alter any of Koha's code
15:45 wizzyrea i'll try to get at 7134
15:45 sekjal to get the faster, more persistent module, though, will require some work
15:45 sekjal thanks, wizzyrea!
15:48 maximep it's working fine for us on the opac, in production, but were not using xslt and only have 1 language enabled
15:48 wizzyrea i'm also looking at 2830
15:51 kf sekjal: I only mentioned yourname in hope that you and maximep can start talking about it :)
15:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: updating history.txt : 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 & KohaCon11 & Joy Nelson 160th <[…]455d1ae7a6c783147> / Bug 7221: C4/ documentation is incorrect. <[…]7df218a4d768ea104>
15:57 jenkins_koha Starting build 524 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 29 j ago)
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16:00 maximep correction, we seem to use ModPerl::PerlRunPrefork
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16:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6321 Add a 1/4 months frequency <[…]3e4e4c9d1c9f0dd6f>
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16:06 mib_pze7v0 hi people :)
16:07 oleonard Hi mib_pze7v0 , you have an unusual name
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16:07 vfernandes hi ppl
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16:07 vfernandes what we should see consulting logs of periodicals? mine is showing nothing :/
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16:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7079: [SIGNED-OFF] Default values for German system preferences <[…]25ae2238beb0a0912> / Make all strings translatable in <[…]468f5e48e7b886e85> / Bug 6916 - item's acq date now takes you to its invoice <
16:15 vfernandes no one?
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16:17 maximep sorry, but what page is logs of periodicals?
16:18 vfernandes browse system logs in the tools
16:19 vfernandes then choose Serial
16:22 maximep is the preference SUbscriptionLog enabled ?
16:23 vfernandes yes...
16:23 maximep hmmmm
16:24 maximep i'm not really good at the helping others it seems haha
16:24 vfernandes when adding a new subscription and receive serials it should log
16:24 trea wizzyrea++. just sayin'
16:25 maximep do have have access to the db to look at action_logs and see if there's stuff from the periodicals module ?
16:28 vfernandes yes i have... let me see
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16:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7084 - Re-arranging results_summary for tags so that it applies where it is suppo... <[…]94a8b782c855d52fb>
16:35 wizzyrea YAY
16:36 wizzyrea \o\  /o/  \o\ /o/
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16:40 kf wizzyrea++ :)
16:40 wizzyrea thank you but that was really a trivial one. I have to do a dance every time I get a patch in ^.^
16:41 wizzyrea kf++ for underappreciated hard work
16:41 kf hmmm
16:42 kf wizzyrea: oh thx
16:42 kf I have been lazy lately
16:42 wizzyrea always good to have a short lazy time just after a major release, imo.
16:43 kf and trying to finish my learning perl book finally
16:43 kf hmm.
16:43 kf should I mark bug 7079 as bug?
16:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default values for German system preferences (web installer)
16:43 kf @eightball
16:43 huginn kf: You're kidding, right?
16:43 kf @eightball
16:43 huginn kf: The outlook is poor.
16:44 kf huginn: you are mean
16:44 huginn kf: I've exhausted my database of quotes
16:44 wizzyrea all right... back to my testing
16:44 kf wizzyrea++
16:44 kf wizzyrea: which version is nekls on right now?
16:45 wizzyrea 3.5.11, going to 3.6.0 this weekend
16:45 kf oh wow
16:45 wizzyrea wow is right ;)
16:45 kf I have been configuring our test database for 3.6 today :)
16:45 kf hope to go there soon with our new libraries
16:45 kf we have a smaller library that I want to start on 3.6
16:45 kf I found the birth date issue
16:45 wizzyrea 3.6.1 will probably be supergood.
16:46 wizzyrea *nod* ohhhh that's a good point
16:46 kf and the DUE notices show unknown for me - bug in german sql files
16:46 kf so far nothing else
16:46 wizzyrea I wonder if that would be enough to stop our 3.6 update
16:46 * wizzyrea ponders
16:46 wizzyrea it's only if the birthdate is null?
16:46 kf hm it doesn't break thing
16:46 kf yep
16:46 kf afaik
16:46 kf if you don't fill it out
16:46 kf it will put in something werid
16:46 wizzyrea we require it
16:46 wizzyrea you can't leave it blank
16:46 kf ian has uploaded a patch for it today
16:46 wizzyrea *nod*
16:46 wizzyrea but we're not going that far >.>
16:47 kf wizzyrea: perhaps you can share your findings? or doing everything on bugzilla anyway?
16:47 wizzyrea we haven't found anything in testing
16:47 wizzyrea all of the major stuff works just fine
16:47 wizzyrea just the usual "oh this could be refined"
16:47 wizzyrea sort of thing
16:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #524: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/524/
16:47 jenkins_koha * joy: Bug 7221: C4/ documentation is incorrect.
16:47 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: updating history.txt : 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 & KohaCon11 & Joy Nelson 160th
16:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7221 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, joy, ASSIGNED , DelBiblio POD is incorrect
16:47 jenkins_koha Starting build 525 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 29 j ago)
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16:49 kf wizzyrea: for me that is mostly translation :)
16:49 kf but most of it easy to fix
16:49 kf only tirening
16:49 kf the - 'oh needs refining' things :)
16:50 wizzyrea right :)
16:50 wizzyrea kf++ for unending work on translations
16:51 * kf blushes
16:52 rhcl is jcamins working on a translation for Old Church Slavonic?
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16:53 kf might be
16:56 wizzyrea hi NCARLibrary
16:56 kf hi NCARLibrary and bye #koha :)
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16:59 NCARLibrary hi!
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17:00 NCARLibrary I'm getting a nasty "Software error"...
17:00 wizzyrea shoot
17:00 NCARLibrary I'm messing around with Patron Import tool.
17:01 wizzyrea what's the error
17:01 NCARLibrary imported a test file with 6 patrons.  some were already in there and so did not load (good!).
17:01 NCARLibrary some DID load, but when i search on those names in Patron search, I get this...
17:02 NCARLibrary "Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /var/koha/sites/ucar/dev/members/ line 130."
17:02 wizzyrea hm what did your import file look like?
17:02 NCARLibrary (standby)
17:03 wizzyrea uh, anonymized please
17:03 wizzyrea :)
17:05 NCARLibrary should i anonymize and share the file w/you?
17:05 wizzyrea you can probably just paste the entire contents into a pastebin, once it's anonymized
17:05 NCARLibrary ok
17:09 NCARLibrary
17:11 trea is now known as trea-away
17:11 oleonard I wonder why some things listed in debian.packages would not get installed the first time around
17:14 NCARLibrary did that come through okay, wiz?
17:19 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
17:19 trea-away is now known as trea
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17:21 cait good evening #koha
17:25 rhcl morning #cait
17:25 rangi hi cait, hi all
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17:26 cait hi rangi, hi rhcl :)
17:26 * wizzyrea was not looking sorry ^.^ will look now
17:26 * cait wonders if rhcl knows about her secred identity
17:27 * magnuse waves from the train
17:27 cait hi magnuse :)
17:27 cait all going as planned so far?
17:28 magnuse yup
17:29 magnuse the ordinary train was delayed, so i'm on the faster but more expensive airport train
17:30 wizzyrea I don't see anything particularly out of the ordinary - i'm not familiar with how the borrower attributes are defined so I'm not sure about the syntax there
17:32 NCARLibrary okay, well, i'll send an email to galen and see what he thinks.
17:33 NCARLibrary Thanks for looking.
17:34 cait magnuse: :)
17:34 cait when will you arrive?
17:34 wizzyrea you get that when you search any patron or only the ones that you imported?
17:35 NCARLibrary only the ones that successfully imported.
17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #525: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/525/
17:36 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6321 Add a 1/4 months frequency
17:36 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6916 - item's acq date now takes you to its invoice
17:36 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Make all strings translatable in
17:36 mtj morena #Koha
17:36 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7079: [SIGNED-OFF] Default values for German system preferences
17:36 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7084 - Re-arranging results_summary for tags so that it applies where it is supposed to
17:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6321 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Add a 1/4 month frequency
17:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6916 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Selecting the acq date of an item should take you to the invoice page for it
17:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default values for German system preferences (web installer)
17:36 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7084 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , New Tag on results display missing results_summary class, causing display inconsistency
17:36 * mtj waves from nz
17:36 rangi heya mtj
17:36 rangi welcome home
17:37 rangi also
17:37 rangi[…]-librarian-alive/
17:37 cait hi mtj :)
17:37 wizzyrea ^ that link is wtf.
17:37 rangi from the man who brought you the whitepaper on OSS ILS
17:37 rangi we have another gem
17:37 * wizzyrea sighs heavily
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17:40 mtj ah cheers chris, thats classic
17:41 mtj ... and a classic response, and follow-up too
17:41 rangi yep
17:41 rangi typical
17:41 cait hm?
17:41 rangi exactly what he did with the OSS FUD
17:41 rangi (the comments)
17:41 cait oh comments
17:41 wahanui comments are turned on
17:41 rangi maybe finally ppl will stop listening to him
17:42 rangi but i doubt it
17:42 cait wahanui botsnack chocolate tea
17:42 wahanui :)
17:42 wizzyrea chocolate tea?
17:42 cait yep
17:42 cait chocolate yogi tea
17:42 cait yumyumyum
17:42 * wizzyrea wants to know the secret of the "chocolate tea
17:42 cait not much of a secret :)
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17:43 * Oak says hi
17:44 cait wizzyrea: google it :) lots of hits. I by mine in a fair trade shop here
17:44 cait buy
17:44 wizzyrea "only an idiot would support that" way to belittle people.
17:44 rangi yes
17:44 wizzyrea good job, A+
17:44 wizzyrea <eyeroll>
17:44 cait the comments don't open for me
17:44 cait obo
17:44 rangi he never lets a comment stand either, leaves it in moderation
17:44 cait boo
17:44 rangi then posts it and his response at the same time
17:44 rangi it is his blog, but still .. dick move
17:46 rangi in better news, cool idea about the indian domains eh, came outta kohacon
17:47 cait :)
17:47 wizzyrea ya, that's wicked.
17:47 cait did they get other countries too?
17:48 jcamins Huh?
17:48 mtj a nice summary about the FUD incident here ->[…]le/CA6704622.html
17:48 rangi see the mail to the mailing lists jcamins
17:49 * jcamins has been frantically preparing a brochure for this evening.
17:49 jcamins Apparently there's been a lot of mail in the last forty-five minutes.
17:50 oleonard Hah, I forgot that Josh was quoted as a defender of Open Source in that article. How times changed.
17:50 jcamins Hm. Don't see what we're talking about.
17:50 jcamins Eh. It'll arrive eventually.
17:51 * magnuse neither
17:51 cait jcamins: was this morning
17:51 * jcamins returns to frantically preparing a brochure for his talk tonight.
17:51 cait not lately
17:51 rangi yeah it was bout 15 hours ago at least
17:52 mtj ah, and speaking of domaiNZzz....
17:52 mtj[…]-community_org_nz
17:53 rangi sweet
17:53 mtj ( be transfered to HLT quite soon-ish)
17:55 cait hm I am thinking about the .de
17:56 rhcl you know, I used to think Stephen had some good thoughts. Haven't been following him for a long time though. Nice to see he has a post on something different for a change.
17:57 magnuse luckily, you have to be a norwegian company to have .no...
17:57 cait ah
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18:01 maximep when using xslt it says "Copies available for reference" even if my item is notforloan. How do I set that it's also not available for reference?
18:02 jcamins maximep: check it out?
18:05 cait reference means just that
18:05 cait the system is right
18:05 cait ah
18:05 cait hm
18:05 maximep well without xslt it just says there's no copies
18:06 maximep so i guess it's something new
18:06 cait no, not new
18:06 cait it's been like that in the xslt as long as I can think
18:07 cait but
18:07 cait if something is not available for reference - why have it in the catalog?
18:07 cait you could hide the item totally
18:07 maximep well it's not available yet
18:07 maximep just received it
18:08 cait so it's an on order item?
18:08 cait does the library hide damaged or lost books?
18:08 magnuse later!
18:08 cait bya magnuse :)
18:08 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
18:20 cait bbiab
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18:28 cait back
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18:33 * rangi is on the bus
18:33 * cait waves
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18:33 libsysguy hey #Koha :)
18:34 libsysguy seen sekjal
18:34 wahanui sekjal was last seen on #koha 2 hours, 48 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: thanks, wizzyrea! [Thu Nov 17 15:43:50 2011]
18:34 libsysguy sekjal any word on hourly testing?
18:34 cait hi libsysguy :)
18:34 libsysguy hi cait :)
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18:34 * libsysguy waives at druthb
18:35 cait hi druthb :)
18:35 druthb hi, #koha!  Say hello to the staff at Bethel University the whole team today.  :)
18:35 cait libsysguy: should we organize another meeting about notices?
18:35 libsysguy I would like to cait...but I really want to get hourly pushed before we start any work on it
18:35 cait Hallo Bethel University :)
18:35 libsysguy Hi Bethel U
18:35 cait libsysguy: that's ok, just let me know :)
18:36 rangi ata marie bethel u
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18:36 libsysguy Bethel in MN?
18:36 druthb TN
18:36 druthb
18:37 * druthb waves down the table at edveal.
18:37 * libsysguy goes to poke around
18:38 druthb one of the great blessings of doing Koha training is seeing happy faces when they see how much better Koha is than their current stinky system.
18:38 cait heh
18:38 * libsysguy thinks he should be doing Koha training then :p
18:38 cait I have been configuring my new 3.6 test installation
18:38 cait and was smiling all the time
18:39 druthb (one of the other great blessings is sitting and chomping on tasty pizza with them at lunch break....)
18:39 cait so many new and shiny things I almost forgot about
18:39 libsysguy druthb knows about my "special" situation :-\
18:40 libsysguy cait have you had any new ideas about notices
18:40 cait not new ideas, but I want to go in there and check the existing bugs
18:40 cait I found some new things too
18:40 cait and there are some things wiating for sign-of
18:41 libsysguy go in where cait?
18:41 jcamins is now known as jcamins_away
18:42 cait into the darkest places of bugzilla :)
18:42 * libsysguy is a little slow today
18:42 * libsysguy runs and hides
18:42 cait heh
18:43 libsysguy druthb i used to live about 2 hours from where you are now
18:44 cait libsysguy: it's not that bad
18:44 cait libsysguy: and my laptop is set up now to send mails :)
18:45 libsysguy yayy...are you using my custom notifications script to send emails :p
18:45 cait um no?
18:45 cait not yet?
18:45 cait what's the right answer?
18:46 libsysguy haha well there is no right answer
18:46 libsysguy i just wrote a quick little hack to get around the limit on sending
18:46 libsysguy cron ftw
18:50 rangi my stop bbiab
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18:59 rangi back
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19:05 sekjal hey, libsysguy
19:05 wahanui i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck
19:05 sekjal sorry, no progress on hourly testing these last couple weeks
19:05 sekjal India
19:05 sekjal then NYC
19:05 sekjal such the jet-setting life I've got here...
19:06 sekjal (actually, took a bus to NYC...)
19:06 cait heh
19:09 libsysguy haha sekjal
19:10 libsysguy do you agree that it would be a good idea to wait on notifications until hourly gets pushed
19:11 cait libsysguy: I think finishing one big project before the ohter is ok
19:11 cait but you meant ian... sorry, bit distracted
19:11 libsysguy well I was just thinking that hourly changes a lot with Dates
19:12 wizzyrea libsysguy: you have merged hourly recently?
19:12 libsysguy mostly changing a lot of the namespace from C4::Dates to Koha::Calendar
19:12 libsysguy not since my last mention of merge
19:12 libsysguy whenever that was
19:12 * wizzyrea thought to run through the NEKLS testing protocols on it to make sure the normal stuff works
19:12 libsysguy I know there have been some tt changes
19:12 libsysguy yeah i can merge and push if you want to check it out
19:12 wizzyrea dk if that would help you or not
19:13 libsysguy i think it would help sekjal and I both
19:13 libsysguy the more testing the better IMO
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19:14 libsysguy wizzyrea: merged and pushed
19:14 wizzyrea oh snaps
19:14 wizzyrea okies
19:14 wizzyrea you are fast :)
19:15 libsysguy hehe i like to give service like i want it
19:15 libsysguy fast and efficient
19:18 * wizzyrea refrains from saying anything terribly naughty about swedes and your deck.
19:18 wizzyrea i will leave it to your imagination.
19:18 libsysguy haha ja ja ja
19:18 libsysguy i guess we have to keep the IRC PG
19:18 cait lol
19:18 wizzyrea (that's what she said)
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19:21 libsysguy hehe
19:34 wizzyrea thanks to whoever proposed only sending original patches to the list.
19:34 wizzyrea I love you.
19:37 * wizzyrea pokes anybody looking for an easy signoff - bug 6323
19:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6323 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Attach/move items -- error handling cleanup
19:37 wizzyrea please :)
19:37 rangi i have a few mins
19:37 rangi looking now
19:37 wizzyrea it's eezzz
19:38 trea-lunch is now known as trea
19:39 wizzyrea aaand I neglected a test plan.
19:39 rangi what!
19:39 * wizzyrea gives herself a stern face
19:39 * rangi fails it
19:39 * wizzyrea sobs
19:39 rangi (not really)
19:40 rangi so the idea
19:40 rangi i try to attach an item
19:40 rangi if it fails
19:40 rangi i get a button to try again?
19:41 rangi you know what you could have done
19:41 rangi see how that block is repeated 3 times
19:41 rangi ?
19:41 wizzyrea what's that
19:41 wahanui that is good
19:41 wizzyrea yes
19:41 wizzyrea (I wondered about that, actually)
19:41 rangi [% block new_button %]
19:41 rangi stick that stuff in
19:41 wizzyrea oh snizzle
19:41 rangi [% end %]
19:41 rangi then
19:42 rangi at the end of the file probably
19:42 rangi so in the 3 places you do
19:42 rangi [% include new_button %]
19:42 wizzyrea oooo
19:43 wizzyrea gimme a sec
19:43 rangi :)
19:43 rangi i probably typoed
19:43 rangi but thats the gist of it
19:43 * wizzyrea is a teachable monkey
19:43 rangi yay!
19:43 wizzyrea I don't even fling poo anymore!
19:44 * libsysguy still flings poo
19:44 rangi[…]tml#section_BLOCK
19:44 rangi reading this
19:44 rangi[…]tml#section_BLOCK
19:44 rangi sorry
19:44 rangi[…]l#section_INCLUDE
19:44 rangi and
19:44 rangi[…]l#section_PROCESS
19:44 rangi is probably good too
19:44 rangi to figure out if you want process or include
19:44 wizzyrea *nod* will check
19:44 rangi but block is hella cool
19:45 cait rangi++
19:45 rangi and if its used outside the file
19:45 rangi you can make a new .tt file in the includes and [% INCLUDE %] it
19:45 wizzyrea ooo snap
19:45 rangi same idea
19:46 rangi then down the track
19:46 rangi we switch those to
19:46 rangi [% CACHE.INC %]
19:46 rangi which pulls them from the cache if possible and only processes if not
19:46 rangi SPEED!
19:46 cait heh
19:47 oleonard Does the extension of a file in includes not matter?
19:47 rangi nope
19:47 rangi you give it hte full path
19:47 rangi sorry full filename
19:48 rangi [% INCLUDE '' %]
19:48 rangi that could be
19:48 rangi [% INCLUDE 'doc-head-close.what_this_is_just_stupid' %]
19:48 rangi if you wanted
19:49 oleonard I noticed that recently someone added alongside, which disturbed my sense of order
19:50 rangi well picking a consistent one is a sane thing to do
19:50 rangi but not a requirement of TT
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19:54 * oleonard wonders if INSTALL.debian and INSTALL.ubuntu really must be different
19:55 rangi sometimes yes
19:55 cait oleonard: sense_of_order++ :)
19:56 oleonard INSTALL.ubuntu has the user rebuilding zebra before running the web installer
19:56 rangi yeah, thats a pretty silly idea
19:59 wizzyrea rangi++ that works and is so much easier >.<
19:59 wizzyrea lawdie.
19:59 wizzyrea ^.^ that's a happy scrunchie face
19:59 rangi :-)
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20:02 oleonard What is the purpose of the separate INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid file?
20:02 rangi its supposed to be for lucid the other one should be oneric
20:02 rangi lucid is the LTS release
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20:03 wizzyrea oleonard does thsi upset your sense of order:
20:03 wizzyrea *this
20:03 oleonard maybe some, but my sense of "Gawd do you know what we'd have to go through to make them the same?" overrides it
20:03 wizzyrea totally fair, is why I asked.
20:04 cait we could relable
20:04 wizzyrea :)
20:04 cait "try again" :P
20:04 wizzyrea lol
20:04 wizzyrea owen likes it with "try again with a different barcode"
20:04 wizzyrea I t hink I did that to make the buttons the same size
20:04 wizzyrea and he was like "meh no"
20:04 wizzyrea :)
20:04 wizzyrea (which I'm ok with)
20:04 wizzyrea (it's clearer this way
20:05 wizzyrea rangi++ that is helpful knowledge.
20:05 oleonard Or maybe "OK\nFine, whatever."
20:05 wizzyrea LOL
20:06 * oleonard worries that updates to INSTALL.debian and INSTALL.ubuntu are not made concurrently when they should be
20:06 wizzyrea both of them need to advise to use packages
20:07 wizzyrea before doing a manual install.
20:07 wizzyrea the download page on the website needs to be updated to do the same
20:12 * wizzyrea issues another poke for a signoff on 6323
20:12 wizzyrea :P
20:12 rangi :)
20:12 rangi looking now
20:13 chris_n maybe we need a "poke" button in bugzilla :)
20:13 wizzyrea that sends a message to IRC!
20:13 wizzyrea that would be amazing..
20:14 rangi needs signoff does it already
20:14 oleonard ...and activates a buzzer under someone's chair
20:14 wizzyrea right, but I want it on demand lol
20:14 wizzyrea POKE
20:14 * chris_n made the mistake of installing the 'koha' package rather than the 'koha-common' package :(
20:14 wizzyrea oops.
20:15 wizzyrea ok ok fine.
20:15 * chris_n associates peek and poke with TRS-80
20:15 chris_n opps... giving away my age
20:15 * wizzyrea had a TRS-80
20:17 chris_n stupid zebra
20:18 * maximep doesn't even know what is a TRS-80
20:18 maximep 1977. oh.
20:18 chris_n
20:19 maximep my first computer was an amd athlon 1.2 ghz
20:19 maximep :p
20:19 maximep not to make u feel old hehe
20:19 rhcl Amiga!
20:19 * chris_n actually owned a PC-2 once as well
20:20 cait 386?
20:20 rangi zx-81 was my first computer
20:20 chris_n maximep: my first was a home-built based around a TI-990 processor running what was called "TI-BUG Monitor"
20:20 Oak my first was an AMD k6-2, 500 MHz
20:20 chris_n all machine code programing :P
20:21 rhcl actually my 1st was a TI99/4A[…]truments_TI-99/4A
20:21 wizzyrea ok ok
20:21 wizzyrea check this out
20:21 rangi wizzyrea: patch looks fine to me
20:21 rangi signing off
20:21 wahanui signing off is a great idea!
20:21 wizzyrea woot!
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20:21 wizzyrea can you see this? https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamai[…]048_6841769_n.jpg
20:21 chris_n
20:21 wizzyrea that's mah daddy, and the first computer I poked at
20:22 Oak see it yes. read it, no.
20:22 maximep wow cool
20:22 Oak oh nice
20:22 maximep 1978?
20:22 wizzyrea ya
20:22 rhcl I'm waiting for somebody else to ask wizzyrea "for real?"
20:22 wizzyrea that's my mom's handwriting at the top
20:22 ibeardslee so long ago
20:22 chris_n neat
20:23 * Oak reopens the tab
20:23 wizzyrea https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamai[…]048_6841769_n.jpg
20:23 wizzyrea is that better?
20:23 chris_n much
20:24 Oak oh yes! much better
20:24 rhcl tarkio Missouri????? wow
20:24 wizzyrea *nod*
20:24 Oak it's great actually.
20:24 rhcl My mother attended there.
20:26 oleonard What paper was that wizzyrea?
20:26 rhcl looks like St. Joseph news - press
20:26 wizzyrea St Jo news-press
20:26 wizzyrea whoa! rhcl!
20:26 rhcl (I live in St. Joe)
20:27 wizzyrea my grandpa was from St. jo
20:28 wizzyrea (do note I wasn't born yet when that article came out)
20:28 wizzyrea but only just
20:29 francharb bye all!
20:29 rhcl bye
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20:30 * francharb is listening to royal headache!
20:30 francharb australia rocks!
20:30 francharb ;)
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20:32 rangi you cant say that and leave!
20:32 wizzyrea dirty pool lol
20:37 Oak Koha rocks!
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20:37 rangi phew fixed it
20:37 wizzyrea !
20:38 talljoy wizzyrea your dad must have been friends with mine.  lol  mine is a phd in chemical engineering when to grad school in missouri and we built computers for fun in the 80s.
20:39 wizzyrea !
20:39 wizzyrea mine had a phd in chemistry too >.>
20:39 talljoy of course...i'm a tad older than you.  was born and nearly double digits at time of that article.
20:40 * rangi was 5
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20:43 cait hm
20:43 cait when was the article written?
20:44 wizzyrea jan 1978
20:44 cait um
20:44 rangi you wasnt borned
20:44 cait hehe nope
20:45 * wizzyrea wasn't either ;)
20:45 bg one year before my time
20:45 bg :D
20:46 bg paul_p and I share the same birthday Jan 9...
20:46 ibeardslee ahh the youth of today
20:46 trea i was nearly done cookin by jan '78 :D
20:51 * chris_n tries wizzyrea's trick
20:51 chrisdothall I wont mention how many years that was before me...
20:51 chris_n and pokes an old thread
20:51 rangi yeah chrisdothall is our child labour
20:51 * rangi cracks the whip in his direction
20:51 wizzyrea whippersnapper!
20:52 * chris_n was the same as talljoy
20:53 talljoy chris_n guess that makes us the old fogies
20:53 chris_n lol
20:53 * talljoy looks for her cane
20:53 rangi get off my lawn
20:53 trea get off my lawn! pesky kids. :P
20:53 trea lol!
20:53 rangi hah
20:54 chris_n hehe
20:54 * chris_n knew he was getting old when he began rolling up the sidewalks at 9pm
20:55 wizzyrea o/ HIGHFIVE \o
20:55 talljoy is now known as talljoy-carpool
20:56 trea o/ HIGHFIVE \o
20:56 ibeardslee ?
20:56 chrisdothall o/*\o
20:57 wizzyrea LOL <3
20:58 wizzyrea chrisdothall: that is funny I like that
20:58 wizzyrea ibeardslee: you must have little people near you
20:58 wizzyrea where little = young
20:59 ibeardslee no .. but I think there are people in here young enough to know them ;)
21:00 chrisdothall It was after my time, but my younger siblings were fans.
21:00 ibeardslee sure
21:00 chrisdothall and the people have changed...
21:00 oleonard chris_n: I've been doing some datatables testing, and I must say I'm put off by the obscurity of the config options
21:02 moodaepo So #koha who are all attending code4lib in Seattle? I heard sekjal will be...looking for more folks so we can have a merry old koha/evergreen summit : )
21:03 chris_n oleonard: they are a bit overwhelming at first glance, I agree
21:03 * chris_n made liberal use of the many examples on the site
21:03 chris_n and searched often on the forums
21:04 * oleonard boggles that column config can be set using positive indexes counting from the left or negative indexes counting from the right
21:04 rangi moodaepo: unfortunately ive done my dash of north american travel for the near future
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21:05 * chris_n is not widely enough versed in js foo to produce a good critique :(
21:05 oleonard Just seems needlessly complex
21:06 moodaepo rangi: Well one day we will have to have a OSS ILS summit in Wellington!
21:07 rangi we had kohacon here last year :)
21:07 cait last year *sigh*
21:08 chrisdothall cait: are you looking for an excuse to visit?
21:08 * moodaepo was just talking about nz & in trips being missed because we aren't involved in koha!
21:09 moodaepo What next .se?
21:09 cait chrisdothall: always :)
21:09 rangi moodaepo: declan and mjgialo suggested i run a curatecamp here .. so watch this space
21:09 cait chrisdothall: but can't believe it's already 'a year ago'
21:10 moodaepo space_watching++
21:10 sekjal NateC?
21:10 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
21:11 chrisdothall cait: heh, soon it will be 'two years ago'
21:11 cait chrisdothall: now you are being mean! :)
21:11 chrisdothall xD
21:12 rangi
21:13 rangi when it comes back that is :)
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21:27 wizzyrea ok, sql question of the day
21:27 rangi ok
21:27 wizzyrea probably a dumb one
21:27 rangi only dumb ones are the ones you ask 7 times on the mailing
21:27 wizzyrea lol
21:29 wizzyrea title, author, dateaccessioned, ccode and number of items on each bib for the returned set (I think we can get the limits worked out ourselves, it's the count of items on each bib that's currently stumping me)
21:29 rangi right
21:29 talljoy-carpool is now known as talljoy
21:29 wizzyrea i'll add the recipe to the library in penance
21:30 rangi select title,author,dateaccession​ed,ccode,count(itemnumber) from biblio,items where biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber
21:30 wizzyrea derp gah
21:31 rangi group by title
21:31 rangi limit whatever
21:32 rangi or group by biblionumber is probably safer (include it in the list of colums to select)
21:32 rangi make sense?
21:32 wizzyrea yes, makes perfect sense
21:32 rangi cool
21:33 wizzyrea thank you :)
21:33 rangi no worries
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21:34 libsysguy can anybody tell me what the QueryAutoTruncate syspref does?
21:34 rangi libsysguy:
21:34 rangi this will fix everything
21:34 libsysguy haha all things fixed
21:35 rangi hi paulnz
21:35 paulnz hi rangi
21:35 libsysguy well i guess by what it does i should have said do I need to reindex after I change it
21:35 paulnz can you check overdrive - they said its down
21:35 cait libsysguy: act like when you put a little star behind each search term
21:35 paulnz Could not connect to remote host.  Error Message :  No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it  Socket Error Code :  10061  Causes :  Check and make sure the connection port is correct, and that that our global outside facing IP ( has TCP access to it.
21:35 cait I think
21:36 rangi paulnz: ill go check now
21:36 paulnz not sure if you are getting those it emails still?
21:36 libsysguy hmm well margo turned it off and said it doesn't seem to be working :-\
21:36 cait libsysguy: no, I don't think you have to, but someone else might know better :)
21:36 rangi did get that one
21:36 cait libsysguy: do you still use fuzzy?
21:36 libsysguy fuzzy?
21:37 libsysguy yes we do
21:37 libsysguy maybe that does it
21:38 rangi paulnz: ahh yes the server has been rebooted
21:39 rangi 2 secs
21:39 cait libsysguy: stemming might be another candidate
21:40 paulnz rangi - by you or by us?
21:40 rangi not by me
21:40 rangi and robin is at a conference so i suspect at your end
21:41 rangi paulnz: should be up now
21:41 rangi if you could get them to test
21:43 paulnz hmmmmmmmmm - so much for 'nothing changed' reply from IT
21:44 rangi heh
21:44 paulnz when was the reboot?
21:44 rangi lemme check
21:44 rangi 10:36:01 up 1 day,  7:24
21:44 rangi 31 ish hours ago
21:46 paulnz overdrive just tested now and got same error
21:47 rangi hmm well the sip server is definitely running
21:49 libsysguy cait I think what margo was looking for was a way to do exact call number searching
21:49 cait hm
21:49 libsysguy like "m27 .b4"
21:49 cait not sure about that
21:49 wizzyrea heh
21:49 wizzyrea good old m27 .b4
21:49 cait the . will be ignored for example
21:49 libsysguy because it splits on the space
21:49 libsysguy yeah i hate call numbers
21:49 libsysguy why can't we just use unique keys
21:50 cait hm
21:50 cait would a phrase callnumber index work on that?
21:50 trea-away is now known as trea
21:50 libsysguy what is a phrase callnumber index?
21:51 cait I was thinking
21:51 cait something like the phrase search we use for other fields
21:51 cait in advanced search - more options
21:51 cait where the sequence of works matters
21:51 cait words
21:51 cait *sighs*
21:51 cait getting late here :)
21:52 rangi paulnz: pasted you some logs in a private message
21:52 libsysguy haha aww
21:52 * libsysguy hands cait cookies
21:52 cait libsysguy: thx :)
21:53 libsysguy hmm that would be something that would have to be implemented
21:53 libsysguy but would probaby work
21:53 cait hmm perhaps not
21:53 cait not sure about all that hehe
21:53 libsysguy well im not entirely sure how the code works
21:53 cait but you can do things like Control-number: in simple search forms
21:53 cait perhaps you can do something like that
21:53 cait ok, now I will stop guessing and confusing and go to bed
21:53 cait night all
21:54 libsysguy haha night cait
21:54 libsysguy thanks
21:54 libsysguy cait++
21:54 sekjal found a fun new bug in action logs
21:54 * cait runs out
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21:54 sekjal apparently, all this time, the biblionumber has been what's logged for circulation logs
21:55 sekjal but in the log view, the code is assuming it's itemnumber, and trying to look up the biblionumber and biblioitemnumber accordingly
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22:05 * wizzyrea promotes a bug:[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7112
22:05 huginn Bug 7112: normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import
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23:07 rangi
23:07 rangi lets get this green again eh?
23:11 * chris_n wonders if all patch authors are running the appropriate tests on their work prior to submitting
23:13 * rangi sent up a patch to fix the templates failing one
23:18 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7242] Typo in <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7242>
23:20 rangi worlds easiest sign off
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