Time Nick Message 00:02 Phlunk3 both rangi , sorry for late reply got calls 00:03 rangi right 00:03 rangi then yeah the usual, as fast as cpu and as much ram as you can afford 00:03 rangi cos running X uses a lot of both cpu and ram 00:03 rangi well x doesnt 00:04 rangi but all the stuff on top of it does ;) 00:04 Phlunk3 thanks mate, doing this on the cheap as they will be gifted to the fijian town councils as an introduction to the system. 00:04 rangi yup 00:04 rangi you want to do it not too cheap 00:04 rangi or you will be doing them a disservice 00:04 Phlunk3 indeed 00:04 rangi thats the balancing act 00:05 ibeardslee I sort of do think it worthwhile running the server on a separate machine. helps the idea that koha itself doesn't have to be installed on each workstation. 00:06 ibeardslee also helps show people checking out books on a different workstation etc 00:07 ibeardslee but does mean the added work of having a hub/switch and setting up the neworking 00:08 rangi yeah maybe phase 2 00:08 Phlunk3 yeah ibeardslee however this way we're able to set it all up here, I spent 2 days walking an "it officer" through the installation process, only to realise he didnt know how to even copy paste commands :P 00:09 Phlunk3 they have a real server there now, sort of, had to have him install a gui on ubuntu so I could remote session through a program because he didnt know how to open a port on his router so that I could ssh lol 00:09 rangi we should send ibeardslee to fiji to set it up :) 00:10 Phlunk3 if you're willing to sponsor a community member then please let me know ;) we have a librarian heading over at the beginning of December to introduce them to the system also. 00:31 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7238] The SIPconfig.xml is stored in the C4/SIP dir <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7238> 00:46 Brooke o/ 00:58 Brooke homie g. Whaddup? 00:59 rhcl_away I'm away 01:00 rhcl_away ? 01:06 rangi hiya Brooke 01:06 Brooke morena 01:33 dani :( Missed Brooke 03:02 Brooke o/ 03:02 rangi wb Brooke 03:02 Brooke :) 03:19 Judit HI 03:19 Brooke hi Judit. 03:22 AmitG heya chris 03:22 AmitG :D 03:23 Brooke hi Amit 03:24 dani Heya Brooke! 03:25 dani Brooke: I did the job hop thing this week. 03:25 Brooke howdy m'am 03:25 Brooke awesome! 03:25 AmitG heya Brooke, dani 03:27 dani Hi AmitG! 03:35 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7239] Acquisitions basket, add order to basket, from new, Source of classification or shelving scheme being blank caused internal error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7239> 03:38 rangi rangi? 03:38 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 04:00 Brooke namaskar 04:48 Irma Hi all 04:49 Irma can anyone give me the link to the recommended server specs for a Koha implementation ....? I can't find this info yet thought it was in the Koha Manual... 06:13 cait good morning #koha 06:14 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:14 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (7:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). 06:14 jransom morning Cait 06:17 cait hi jo 06:17 Judit hi 06:28 cait hi Judit 06:33 cait hi kmkale 06:37 Oak oh hello miss cait :) 06:37 cait hi mr oak :) 06:38 Oak how are we today? 06:39 Oak leaving for work? 07:05 cait Oak: yes, soon 07:05 cait Oak: how are you today? relaxing after oyur exams? 07:05 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:05 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1�C (8:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising). 07:14 cait morning magnuse 07:15 Oak well, not relaxing. on work. but yes, kind of relaxing. anything other than exams is relaxing. 07:16 Oak too many 'relaxing's above 07:16 magnuse morning cait and Oak 07:16 Oak magnuse 07:16 magnuse Oak 07:16 Oak got a light? 07:17 magnuse i can find one? 07:17 Oak never mind. i don't smoke. 07:19 cait ? 07:19 Oak i really should not quit my day job. 07:52 reiveune hello 08:29 Schwitzd Hello to everybody! 08:29 rangi hi Schwitzd 08:29 Schwitzd I have a question reguarding the book retourning 08:29 kf hi #koha 08:30 Schwitzd For example 08:30 magnuse hi kf rangi Schwitzd 08:30 Schwitzd magnuse: ciao! 08:30 kf god morgen magnuse :) 08:30 Schwitzd How I can enable to send an email if the reservation is overdate? 08:30 kf you mean if the patron has not picked it up? 08:30 kf in time? 08:31 kf or when the hold is placed in the pickup area for the patron? 08:31 Schwitzd if the patron don't retourn the book 08:31 Schwitzd I set the patron can reserve the book for 20 days 08:31 Schwitzd if don't retorn the book in this date I want to send to parton an email 08:32 Schwitzd "your reservation is over date please retourn the book...." 08:32 kf rangi++ 08:32 kf ah 08:32 kf I think you mean: checked out books that get overdue 08:33 Schwitzd yes 08:33 kf http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/noticetriggers.html 08:34 kf http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/notices.html 08:34 kf http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/cronjobsch.html 08:34 kf what you need to do is, configure an overdue notice and configure the cronjob 08:34 kf depending on the time schedule you want to use, you will also need to set up your notice triggers 08:40 Schwitzd oky 08:41 Schwitzd the /process_message_queue.pl there is the cronjob 08:41 kf you also need the overdues cronjob 08:41 kf it prepares the mails, process_message_queue sends them out 08:43 Schwitzd is this one overdue_notices.pl, right? 08:44 kf yes 08:45 paul_p hello everybody & good morning European ppl ! 08:45 kf good morning Paul :) 08:47 magnuse kia ora paul_p 09:00 francharb morning #koha 09:00 kf hi francharb 09:03 magnuse hiya francharb 09:03 francharb hi kf, magnuse ! 09:07 Schwitzd kf: oky 09:07 Schwitzd now my problem is the email is not generated... 09:07 Schwitzd I have a overdue for one one user 09:07 Schwitzd but the overdue_notices.pl don't generate the mail 09:10 kf how long is it overdue? 09:10 kf which parameters are you using for your overdue_notices pl? 09:11 Schwitzd nothing 09:11 Schwitzd the overdue is 21 days 09:11 Schwitzd and no parameters 09:11 kf yeah 09:11 kf you have tot ell it what to do 09:11 kf do you have a notice configured? 09:12 Schwitzd yes 09:12 kf and notice triggers? 09:12 Schwitzd yes 09:12 kf ok 09:12 kf try starting with -t 09:12 Schwitzd no output 09:12 Schwitzd the is a verbose mode? 09:13 kf I think there is 09:13 kf try -h to see the options 09:14 kf it's pretty good documented 09:14 kf altough the script is doing too many things 09:14 kf where do you check if the notice was generated? 09:14 kf and where are you from Schwitzd? 09:15 Schwitzd on the db 09:15 Schwitzd message_queue table 09:15 kf message_queue 09:15 kf right 09:15 kf ah 09:15 kf if you use notice triggers 09:16 kf and the thing is 21 days overdue 09:16 kf you have to have one that has delay 21 09:16 kf it's only sending out notices on the exact day 09:16 kf not in the range of days 09:16 kf you can do that too, but without -t then 09:16 kf using other options 09:18 Schwitzd I give you some print screen 09:19 kf I was wondering abut your nick - where are you located? 09:20 Schwitzd Switzerland 09:20 kf ah 09:20 kf Sprichst du deutsch? 09:20 Schwitzd no :) 09:20 Schwitzd south of switzerland tessin 09:21 kf ah, I am from Konstanz 09:21 Schwitzd :) 09:26 Schwitzd kf: http://imageshack.us/f/39/overdue.png/ 09:27 kf when your item is 21 days overdue, and your delays are 1 3 5 09:27 kf no notice will be generated 09:27 kf it's too overdue 09:27 kf try setting your third to 21 09:27 kf to see what I mean 09:27 Schwitzd http://imageshack.us/f/254/issues.png/ 09:27 kf when using -t it will only go out on the exact date 09:27 kf and I recommend studying the documention for the cronjob :) 09:27 kf most information is in there 09:28 Schwitzd I read the documentation 09:28 Schwitzd also in one book 09:28 Schwitzd but I don't now why the mail is not generated :S 09:28 kf I mean look at the source code for the job 09:28 kf to see the different options available 09:29 kf because your overdue doesn't match the criteria 09:29 kf for generating a notice 09:29 kf with the configuration you use right now 09:32 Schwitzd kf: what I don't have understood is 09:32 Schwitzd the duedate for the book is 17.11 (today) 09:33 kf ah 09:33 kf yeah, not overdue at all then 09:33 kf first notice you can send out is tomorrow 09:33 kf what you can send out now is a due notice 09:33 kf and that is controlled by the enhmessaging system preference and the preferences set in the patron's account 09:33 kf and you need a due notice... sorry, I missed that before :( 09:34 Schwitzd wait I want to do a test 09:34 Schwitzd i set the duedate yesterday for this book 09:35 Schwitzd (is a test enviroment) :P 09:40 kf ah, there is also another factor 09:40 wahanui okay, kf. 09:41 kf hm. or no, that should work 09:41 kf delay = 1, date_due yesterday, overdue_notice with -t 09:43 Schwitzd \o/ 09:43 Schwitzd is working!!! 09:43 kf yay! 09:43 kf very cool :) 09:43 kf another thing that is useful to know: 09:44 kf if you have more than one book overdue for the patron 09:44 kf it will only look at the oldest due date 09:44 kf we have a bug open for that, but sadly it didn't make it in yet 09:44 Schwitzd ok 09:44 Schwitzd but I don't think is my case 09:44 Schwitzd is a little company library 09:44 Schwitzd :) 09:45 kf :) 09:47 Schwitzd kf: thanks a lot for your help! 09:47 kf you are welcome .) 09:49 rangi kf++ 09:50 Schwitzd kf: Use of uninitialized value $fine in string at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 673. 09:50 Schwitzd now I have this message when I start the script 09:51 magnuse kf++ 09:52 Schwitzd but is working 09:55 kf ah 09:55 kf yes 09:55 kf I always get that 09:55 Schwitzd oky :) 09:55 kf I think it's something we should fix... but you can ingore it 09:56 kf you can output the fine for an item in the notice 09:56 kf I think if there is no fine, it produces this warning 09:59 Schwitzd ok 10:11 kf @wunder Konstanz 10:11 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0�C (11:00 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Rising). 10:31 magnuse @wunder boo 10:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0�C (11:20 AM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 11:46 kf @wunder Konstanz 11:46 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2�C (12:40 PM CET on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Rising). 13:18 NateC Hello #koha! 13:21 oleonard Hello #koha too! 13:31 JesseM Morning #Koha 13:41 kf hi JesseM :) 14:18 oleonard sekjal, NateC, etc: Is ByWater involved in FulfILLment testing? 14:19 sekjal morning, oleonard. no, not at this time 14:20 * oleonard supposes since Equinox is a Koha provider they have their own resources for testing 14:20 JesseM Hey kf! 14:21 kf hey :) 14:21 kf and hi oleonard and sekjal :) 14:23 oleonard We're dealing with annoying bugs in the current state-wide ILL system and are told that they'll either upgrade VDX or switch to FulfILLment in January 14:24 oleonard ...but I hate being in the dark about the testing process 14:26 jcamins_away oleonard: testing? Why would you want that? 14:26 oleonard I know, where's my spirit of fun and surprise? 14:26 jcamins Next you'll be telling us that library patrons should be able to easily get books from other libraries in the state! 14:27 oleonard Far be it from me to think that the first public library in Ohio should be in on testing an open source ILL system that is supposed to connect to Koha 14:27 oleonard first Koha public library that is 14:29 kf and hi jcamins :) 14:30 oleonard Oh no, new Twilight saga movie premieres tonight and I'm out of sparkles! 14:32 jcamins oleonard: silly oleonard! :) 14:32 * oleonard is just a poor planner all around 14:32 jcamins kf: good morning. 14:35 kf lol 14:35 kf oleonard++ :) 14:37 magnuse i was talking to someone a while ago about maybe having a live irc qa session with someone close to the fullfillment development... 14:37 magnuse get a little demo, get answers to koha-related questions, perhaps... 14:37 kf sounds like a good idea 14:38 magnuse shouldn't be too hard to make that real 14:38 magnuse "how hard can it be?" ;-) 14:39 magnuse got a plane to catch - see ya's! 14:42 * oleonard sees bshum, moodaepo, and phasefx in the #fulfillment channel on freenode 14:42 oleonard ...but everyone's just lurking 15:03 oleonard ...kinda like in here... 15:04 jcamins oleonard: this is IRC. There's a several decade tradition of lurking. ;) 15:05 chris_n @wunder 28334 15:05 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 12.4�C (10:02 AM EST on November 17, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Steady). 15:07 wizzyrea kansas is going to be testing fulfillment too 15:08 oleonard Heard anything about the process wizzyrea? 15:08 wizzyrea @quote add jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking. 15:08 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #166 added. 15:08 wizzyrea for fulfillment? I haven't heard a whole lot about it no 15:09 wizzyrea NEKLS is supposedly going to be involved with it somehow (as we're the biggest of the regional koha consortia 15:09 wizzyrea kansas* regional koha consortia 15:09 rhcl_away The evergreen channel is pretty busy 15:10 * oleonard wonders how a library called "Evergreen Community Library" can not be on Evergreen. http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-displaylibrary.pl?RC=22861 15:10 oleonard They should get a complimentary installation 15:14 maximep hey guys, when I do a search in the OPAC for something that has only 1 item and it's notforloan, with XSLT it says copies available 15:15 maximep with XSLT off it says No items available 15:15 maximep is that a bug that the behavior is different? 15:18 wizzyrea well, it *is* available 15:18 wizzyrea you just can't check it out 15:20 maximep hmmm right, it says available for reference now 15:20 wizzyrea it's probably a bug that it's different, but getting people to agree on what it should say 15:20 wizzyrea would be the hard part lol 15:20 wizzyrea available for reference is probably what you want it to say 15:20 wizzyrea makes sense to me anyway 15:21 maximep xslt caching is killing me :/ 15:22 jcamins maximep: XSLT caching? 15:22 wahanui somebody said XSLT caching was killing me :/ 15:22 oleonard wahanui's memory is impeccable. 15:22 maximep haha 15:22 jcamins wahanui: forget XSLT caching 15:22 wahanui jcamins: I forgot xslt caching 15:22 maximep yeah, looking at the code the variable stylesheet of XSLTParse4Display is global 15:23 maximep so it seems it's only parsing 1 time for pages 15:23 rhcl hey, this is cool: "Ducks Unlimited Canada Now Live On Koha" http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/newsitem.php?id=2176 - just now noticed it 15:23 wizzyrea well also, there's a certain delay between when you change something and it gets reflected in the index 15:23 maximep i seem to have bugs with that 15:23 rhcl talking about a koha connector for fullfilment on the fullfilment channel right now 15:24 maximep probably because were using mod_perl 15:24 jcamins maximep: you're using mod_perl? I thought Koha still had too many leaks for mod_perl. 15:24 maximep were using it for the opac only 15:24 maximep intranet is completly unusable with it 15:25 wizzyrea good thing you're keeping all of your work on that to yourself. 15:25 maximep we have no work on that :S 15:25 maximep only sysadmin configs 15:28 kf I think several people have been experimenting with mod_perl 15:28 maximep i guess we could share our config if anyone would like to test it 15:28 kf rangi and I think sekjal 15:28 kf perhaps worth to discuss it on a meeting sometime 15:28 wizzyrea it wouldn't hurt to slap it up on the wiki 15:30 wizzyrea hm, this is a very trivial thing - but if you are adding a guaranteed child to an adult 15:30 wizzyrea and koha says "I think there is a dupe here" and you resubmit the child form 15:30 wizzyrea it duplicates the guarantee record 15:30 kf oh 15:31 wizzyrea but the child patron isn't duplicated 15:31 wizzyrea just the guarantee record 15:31 kf word-- 15:43 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7134] patron records getting funny birthdays <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7134> 15:44 sekjal kf: yes, i've been playing with mod_perl 15:45 sekjal using ModPerl::PerlRun, I can get a pretty good performance boost without needing to alter any of Koha's code 15:45 wizzyrea i'll try to get at 7134 15:45 sekjal to get the faster, more persistent module, though, will require some work 15:45 sekjal thanks, wizzyrea! 15:48 maximep it's working fine for us on the opac, in production, but were not using xslt and only have 1 language enabled 15:48 wizzyrea i'm also looking at 2830 15:51 kf sekjal: I only mentioned yourname in hope that you and maximep can start talking about it :) 15:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: updating history.txt : 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 & KohaCon11 & Joy Nelson 160th <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2216cd4371a72d95491dc51455d1ae7a6c783147> / Bug 7221: C4/Biblio.pm documentation is incorrect. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d0192b85ceabca3dbb0add7df218a4d768ea104> 15:57 jenkins_koha Starting build 524 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 29 j ago) 16:00 maximep correction, we seem to use ModPerl::PerlRunPrefork 16:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6321 Add a 1/4 months frequency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bada2e4c36f3e6ec163e5f53e4e4c9d1c9f0dd6f> 16:06 mib_pze7v0 hi people :) 16:07 oleonard Hi mib_pze7v0 , you have an unusual name 16:07 vfernandes hi ppl 16:07 vfernandes what we should see consulting logs of periodicals? mine is showing nothing :/ 16:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7079: [SIGNED-OFF] Default values for German system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1d824deaa65f0a64071e6925ae2238beb0a0912> / Make all strings translatable in marc21_field_007.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fde30912ec89c8855a7b4d468f5e48e7b886e85> / Bug 6916 - item's acq date now takes you to its invoice <http://git.koha-community.org/g 16:15 vfernandes no one? 16:17 maximep sorry, but what page is logs of periodicals? 16:18 vfernandes browse system logs in the tools 16:19 vfernandes then choose Serial 16:22 maximep is the preference SUbscriptionLog enabled ? 16:23 vfernandes yes... 16:23 maximep hmmmm 16:24 maximep i'm not really good at the helping others it seems haha 16:24 vfernandes when adding a new subscription and receive serials it should log 16:24 trea wizzyrea++. just sayin' 16:25 maximep do have have access to the db to look at action_logs and see if there's stuff from the periodicals module ? 16:28 vfernandes yes i have... let me see 16:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7084 - Re-arranging results_summary for tags so that it applies where it is suppo... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d42be9e7670a3489be681494a8b782c855d52fb> 16:35 wizzyrea YAY 16:36 wizzyrea \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ 16:40 kf wizzyrea++ :) 16:40 wizzyrea thank you but that was really a trivial one. I have to do a dance every time I get a patch in ^.^ 16:41 wizzyrea kf++ for underappreciated hard work 16:41 kf hmmm 16:42 kf wizzyrea: oh thx 16:42 kf I have been lazy lately 16:42 wizzyrea always good to have a short lazy time just after a major release, imo. 16:43 kf and trying to finish my learning perl book finally 16:43 kf hmm. 16:43 kf should I mark bug 7079 as bug? 16:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default values for German system preferences (web installer) 16:43 kf @eightball 16:43 huginn kf: You're kidding, right? 16:43 kf @eightball 16:43 huginn kf: The outlook is poor. 16:44 kf huginn: you are mean 16:44 huginn kf: I've exhausted my database of quotes 16:44 wizzyrea all right... back to my testing 16:44 kf wizzyrea++ 16:44 kf wizzyrea: which version is nekls on right now? 16:45 wizzyrea 3.5.11, going to 3.6.0 this weekend 16:45 kf oh wow 16:45 wizzyrea wow is right ;) 16:45 kf I have been configuring our test database for 3.6 today :) 16:45 kf hope to go there soon with our new libraries 16:45 kf we have a smaller library that I want to start on 3.6 16:45 kf I found the birth date issue 16:45 wizzyrea 3.6.1 will probably be supergood. 16:46 wizzyrea *nod* ohhhh that's a good point 16:46 kf and the DUE notices show unknown for me - bug in german sql files 16:46 kf so far nothing else 16:46 wizzyrea I wonder if that would be enough to stop our 3.6 update 16:46 * wizzyrea ponders 16:46 wizzyrea it's only if the birthdate is null? 16:46 kf hm it doesn't break thing 16:46 kf yep 16:46 kf afaik 16:46 kf if you don't fill it out 16:46 kf it will put in something werid 16:46 wizzyrea we require it 16:46 wizzyrea you can't leave it blank 16:46 kf ian has uploaded a patch for it today 16:46 wizzyrea *nod* 16:46 wizzyrea but we're not going that far >.> 16:47 kf wizzyrea: perhaps you can share your findings? or doing everything on bugzilla anyway? 16:47 wizzyrea we haven't found anything in testing 16:47 wizzyrea all of the major stuff works just fine 16:47 wizzyrea just the usual "oh this could be refined" 16:47 wizzyrea sort of thing 16:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #524: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/524/ 16:47 jenkins_koha * joy: Bug 7221: C4/Biblio.pm documentation is incorrect. 16:47 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: updating history.txt : 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 & KohaCon11 & Joy Nelson 160th 16:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7221 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, joy, ASSIGNED , DelBiblio POD is incorrect 16:47 jenkins_koha Starting build 525 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 29 j ago) 16:49 kf wizzyrea: for me that is mostly translation :) 16:49 kf but most of it easy to fix 16:49 kf only tirening 16:49 kf the - 'oh needs refining' things :) 16:50 wizzyrea right :) 16:50 wizzyrea kf++ for unending work on translations 16:51 * kf blushes 16:52 rhcl is jcamins working on a translation for Old Church Slavonic? 16:53 kf might be 16:56 wizzyrea hi NCARLibrary 16:56 kf hi NCARLibrary and bye #koha :) 16:59 NCARLibrary hi! 17:00 NCARLibrary I'm getting a nasty "Software error"... 17:00 wizzyrea shoot 17:00 NCARLibrary I'm messing around with Patron Import tool. 17:01 wizzyrea what's the error 17:01 NCARLibrary imported a test file with 6 patrons. some were already in there and so did not load (good!). 17:01 NCARLibrary some DID load, but when i search on those names in Patron search, I get this... 17:02 NCARLibrary "Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /var/koha/sites/ucar/dev/members/member.pl line 130." 17:02 wizzyrea hm what did your import file look like? 17:02 NCARLibrary (standby) 17:03 wizzyrea uh, anonymized please 17:03 wizzyrea :) 17:05 NCARLibrary should i anonymize and share the file w/you? 17:05 wizzyrea you can probably just paste the entire contents into a pastebin, once it's anonymized 17:05 NCARLibrary ok 17:09 NCARLibrary http://paste.koha-community.org/123 17:11 oleonard I wonder why some things listed in debian.packages would not get installed the first time around 17:14 NCARLibrary did that come through okay, wiz? 17:21 cait good evening #koha 17:25 rhcl morning #cait 17:25 rangi hi cait, hi all 17:26 cait hi rangi, hi rhcl :) 17:26 * wizzyrea was not looking sorry ^.^ will look now 17:26 * cait wonders if rhcl knows about her secred identity 17:27 * magnuse waves from the train 17:27 cait hi magnuse :) 17:27 cait all going as planned so far? 17:28 magnuse yup 17:29 magnuse the ordinary train was delayed, so i'm on the faster but more expensive airport train 17:30 wizzyrea I don't see anything particularly out of the ordinary - i'm not familiar with how the borrower attributes are defined so I'm not sure about the syntax there 17:32 NCARLibrary okay, well, i'll send an email to galen and see what he thinks. 17:33 NCARLibrary Thanks for looking. 17:34 cait magnuse: :) 17:34 cait when will you arrive? 17:34 wizzyrea you get that when you search any patron or only the ones that you imported? 17:35 NCARLibrary only the ones that successfully imported. 17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #525: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/525/ 17:36 jenkins_koha * f.demians: Bug 6321 Add a 1/4 months frequency 17:36 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 6916 - item's acq date now takes you to its invoice 17:36 jenkins_koha * frederick.capovilla: Make all strings translatable in marc21_field_007.tt 17:36 mtj morena #Koha 17:36 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7079: [SIGNED-OFF] Default values for German system preferences 17:36 jenkins_koha * lrea: Bug 7084 - Re-arranging results_summary for tags so that it applies where it is supposed to 17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6321 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Add a 1/4 month frequency 17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6916 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Selecting the acq date of an item should take you to the invoice page for it 17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Default values for German system preferences (web installer) 17:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7084 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , New Tag on results display missing results_summary class, causing display inconsistency 17:36 * mtj waves from nz 17:36 rangi heya mtj 17:36 rangi welcome home 17:37 rangi also 17:37 rangi http://stephenslighthouse.com/2011/11/17/sexiest-librarian-alive/ 17:37 cait hi mtj :) 17:37 wizzyrea ^ that link is wtf. 17:37 rangi from the man who brought you the whitepaper on OSS ILS 17:37 rangi we have another gem 17:37 * wizzyrea sighs heavily 17:40 mtj ah cheers chris, thats classic 17:41 mtj ... and a classic response, and follow-up too 17:41 rangi yep 17:41 rangi typical 17:41 cait hm? 17:41 rangi exactly what he did with the OSS FUD 17:41 rangi (the comments) 17:41 cait oh comments 17:41 wahanui comments are turned on 17:41 rangi maybe finally ppl will stop listening to him 17:42 rangi but i doubt it 17:42 cait wahanui botsnack chocolate tea 17:42 wahanui :) 17:42 wizzyrea chocolate tea? 17:42 cait yep 17:42 cait chocolate yogi tea 17:42 cait yumyumyum 17:42 * wizzyrea wants to know the secret of the "chocolate tea 17:42 cait not much of a secret :) 17:43 * Oak says hi 17:44 cait wizzyrea: google it :) lots of hits. I by mine in a fair trade shop here 17:44 cait buy 17:44 wizzyrea "only an idiot would support that" way to belittle people. 17:44 rangi yes 17:44 wizzyrea good job, A+ 17:44 wizzyrea <eyeroll> 17:44 cait the comments don't open for me 17:44 cait obo 17:44 rangi he never lets a comment stand either, leaves it in moderation 17:44 cait boo 17:44 rangi then posts it and his response at the same time 17:44 rangi it is his blog, but still .. dick move 17:46 rangi in better news, cool idea about the indian domains eh, came outta kohacon 17:47 cait :) 17:47 wizzyrea ya, that's wicked. 17:47 cait did they get other countries too? 17:48 jcamins Huh? 17:48 mtj a nice summary about the FUD incident here -> http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6704622.html 17:48 rangi see the mail to the mailing lists jcamins 17:49 * jcamins has been frantically preparing a brochure for this evening. 17:49 jcamins Apparently there's been a lot of mail in the last forty-five minutes. 17:50 oleonard Hah, I forgot that Josh was quoted as a defender of Open Source in that article. How times changed. 17:50 jcamins Hm. Don't see what we're talking about. 17:50 jcamins Eh. It'll arrive eventually. 17:51 * magnuse neither 17:51 cait jcamins: was this morning 17:51 * jcamins returns to frantically preparing a brochure for his talk tonight. 17:51 cait not lately 17:51 rangi yeah it was bout 15 hours ago at least 17:52 mtj ah, and speaking of domaiNZzz .... 17:52 mtj https://onlydomains.secure-admin.com/whois/zone/koha-community_org_nz 17:53 rangi sweet 17:53 mtj (...to be transfered to HL T quite soon-ish) 17:55 cait hm I am thinking about the .de 17:56 rhcl you know, I used to think Stephen had some good thoughts. Haven't been following him for a long time though. Nice to see he has a post on something different for a change. 17:57 magnuse luckily, you have to be a norwegian company to have .no... 17:57 cait ah 18:01 maximep when using xslt it says "Copies available for reference" even if my item is notforloan. How do I set that it's also not available for reference? 18:02 jcamins maximep: check it out? 18:05 cait reference means just that 18:05 cait the system is right 18:05 cait ah 18:05 cait hm 18:05 maximep well without xslt it just says there's no copies 18:06 maximep so i guess it's something new 18:06 cait no, not new 18:06 cait it's been like that in the xslt as long as I can think 18:07 cait but 18:07 cait if something is not available for reference - why have it in the catalog? 18:07 cait you could hide the item totally 18:07 maximep well it's not available yet 18:07 maximep just received it 18:08 cait so it's an on order item? 18:08 cait does the library hide damaged or lost books? 18:08 magnuse later! 18:08 cait bya magnuse :) 18:20 cait bbiab 18:28 cait back 18:33 * rangi is on the bus 18:33 * cait waves 18:33 libsysguy hey #Koha :) 18:34 libsysguy seen sekjal 18:34 wahanui sekjal was last seen on #koha 2 hours, 48 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: thanks, wizzyrea! [Thu Nov 17 15:43:50 2011] 18:34 libsysguy sekjal any word on hourly testing? 18:34 cait hi libsysguy :) 18:34 libsysguy hi cait :) 18:34 * libsysguy waives at druthb 18:35 cait hi druthb :) 18:35 druthb hi, #koha! Say hello to the staff at Bethel University again...got the whole team today. :) 18:35 cait libsysguy: should we organize another meeting about notices? 18:35 libsysguy I would like to cait...but I really want to get hourly pushed before we start any work on it 18:35 cait Hallo Bethel University :) 18:35 libsysguy Hi Bethel U 18:35 cait libsysguy: that's ok, just let me know :) 18:36 rangi ata marie bethel u 18:36 libsysguy Bethel in MN? 18:36 druthb TN 18:36 druthb http://www.bethelu.edu 18:37 * druthb waves down the table at edveal. 18:37 * libsysguy goes to poke around 18:38 druthb one of the great blessings of doing Koha training is seeing happy faces when they see how much better Koha is than their current stinky system. 18:38 cait heh 18:38 * libsysguy thinks he should be doing Koha training then :p 18:38 cait I have been configuring my new 3.6 test installation 18:38 cait and was smiling all the time 18:39 druthb (one of the other great blessings is sitting and chomping on tasty pizza with them at lunch break....) 18:39 cait so many new and shiny things I almost forgot about 18:39 libsysguy druthb knows about my "special" situation :-\ 18:40 libsysguy cait have you had any new ideas about notices 18:40 cait not new ideas, but I want to go in there and check the existing bugs 18:40 cait I found some new things too 18:40 cait and there are some things wiating for sign-of 18:41 libsysguy go in where cait? 18:42 cait into the darkest places of bugzilla :) 18:42 * libsysguy is a little slow today 18:42 * libsysguy runs and hides 18:42 cait heh 18:43 libsysguy druthb i used to live about 2 hours from where you are now 18:44 cait libsysguy: it's not that bad 18:44 cait libsysguy: and my laptop is set up now to send mails :) 18:45 libsysguy yayy...are you using my custom notifications script to send emails :p 18:45 cait um no? 18:45 cait not yet? 18:45 cait what's the right answer? 18:46 libsysguy haha well there is no right answer 18:46 libsysguy i just wrote a quick little hack to get around the limit on sending 18:46 libsysguy cron ftw 18:50 rangi my stop bbiab 18:59 rangi back 19:05 sekjal hey, libsysguy 19:05 wahanui i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck 19:05 sekjal sorry, no progress on hourly testing these last couple weeks 19:05 sekjal India 19:05 sekjal then NYC 19:05 sekjal such the jet-setting life I've got here... 19:06 sekjal (actually, took a bus to NYC...) 19:06 cait heh 19:09 libsysguy haha sekjal 19:10 libsysguy do you agree that it would be a good idea to wait on notifications until hourly gets pushed 19:11 cait libsysguy: I think finishing one big project before the ohter is ok 19:11 cait but you meant ian... sorry, bit distracted 19:11 libsysguy well I was just thinking that hourly changes a lot with Dates 19:12 wizzyrea libsysguy: you have merged hourly recently? 19:12 libsysguy mostly changing a lot of the namespace from C4::Dates to Koha::Calendar 19:12 libsysguy not since my last mention of merge 19:12 libsysguy whenever that was 19:12 * wizzyrea thought to run through the NEKLS testing protocols on it to make sure the normal stuff works 19:12 libsysguy I know there have been some tt changes 19:12 libsysguy yeah i can merge and push if you want to check it out 19:12 wizzyrea dk if that would help you or not 19:13 libsysguy i think it would help sekjal and I both 19:13 libsysguy the more testing the better IMO 19:14 libsysguy wizzyrea: merged and pushed 19:14 wizzyrea oh snaps 19:14 wizzyrea okies 19:14 wizzyrea you are fast :) 19:15 libsysguy hehe i like to give service like i want it 19:15 libsysguy fast and efficient 19:18 * wizzyrea refrains from saying anything terribly naughty about swedes and your deck. 19:18 wizzyrea i will leave it to your imagination. 19:18 libsysguy haha ja ja ja 19:18 libsysguy i guess we have to keep the IRC PG 19:18 cait lol 19:18 wizzyrea (that's what she said) 19:21 libsysguy hehe 19:34 wizzyrea thanks to whoever proposed only sending original patches to the list. 19:34 wizzyrea I love you. 19:37 * wizzyrea pokes anybody looking for an easy signoff - bug 6323 19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6323 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Attach/move items -- error handling cleanup 19:37 wizzyrea please :) 19:37 rangi i have a few mins 19:37 rangi looking now 19:37 wizzyrea it's eezzz 19:39 wizzyrea aaand I neglected a test plan. 19:39 rangi what! 19:39 * wizzyrea gives herself a stern face 19:39 * rangi fails it 19:39 * wizzyrea sobs 19:39 rangi (not really) 19:40 rangi so the idea 19:40 rangi i try to attach an item 19:40 rangi if it fails 19:40 rangi i get a button to try again? 19:41 rangi you know what you could have done 19:41 rangi see how that block is repeated 3 times 19:41 rangi ? 19:41 wizzyrea what's that 19:41 wahanui that is good 19:41 wizzyrea yes 19:41 wizzyrea (I wondered about that, actually) 19:41 rangi [% block new_button %] 19:41 rangi stick that stuff in 19:41 wizzyrea oh snizzle 19:41 rangi [% end %] 19:41 rangi then 19:42 rangi at the end of the file probably 19:42 rangi so in the 3 places you do 19:42 rangi [% include new_button %] 19:42 wizzyrea oooo 19:43 wizzyrea gimme a sec 19:43 rangi :) 19:43 rangi i probably typoed 19:43 rangi but thats the gist of it 19:43 * wizzyrea is a teachable monkey 19:43 rangi yay! 19:43 wizzyrea I don't even fling poo anymore! 19:44 * libsysguy still flings poo 19:44 rangi http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_BLOCK 19:44 rangi reading this 19:44 rangi http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_BLOCK 19:44 rangi sorry 19:44 rangi http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_INCLUDE 19:44 rangi and 19:44 rangi http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_PROCESS 19:44 rangi is probably good too 19:44 rangi to figure out if you want process or include 19:44 wizzyrea *nod* will check 19:44 rangi but block is hella cool 19:45 cait rangi++ 19:45 rangi and if its used outside the file 19:45 rangi you can make a new .tt file in the includes and [% INCLUDE %] it 19:45 wizzyrea ooo snap 19:45 rangi same idea 19:46 rangi then down the track 19:46 rangi we switch those to 19:46 rangi [% CACHE.INC %] 19:46 rangi which pulls them from the cache if possible and only processes if not 19:46 rangi SPEED! 19:46 cait heh 19:47 oleonard Does the extension of a file in includes not matter? 19:47 rangi nope 19:47 rangi you give it hte full path 19:47 rangi sorry full filename 19:48 rangi [% INCLUDE 'doc-head-close.inc' %] 19:48 rangi that could be 19:48 rangi [% INCLUDE 'doc-head-close.what_this_is_just_stupid' %] 19:48 rangi if you wanted 19:49 oleonard I noticed that recently someone added circ-menu.tt alongside circ-menu.inc, which disturbed my sense of order 19:50 rangi well picking a consistent one is a sane thing to do 19:50 rangi but not a requirement of TT 19:54 * oleonard wonders if INSTALL.debian and INSTALL.ubuntu really must be different 19:55 rangi sometimes yes 19:55 cait oleonard: sense_of_order++ :) 19:56 oleonard INSTALL.ubuntu has the user rebuilding zebra before running the web installer 19:56 rangi yeah, thats a pretty silly idea 19:59 wizzyrea rangi++ that works and is so much easier >.< 19:59 wizzyrea lawdie. 19:59 wizzyrea ^.^ that's a happy scrunchie face 19:59 rangi :-) 20:02 oleonard What is the purpose of the separate INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid file? 20:02 rangi its supposed to be for lucid the other one should be oneric 20:02 rangi lucid is the LTS release 20:03 wizzyrea oleonard does thsi upset your sense of order: http://screencast.com/t/j1hWk5JGSW 20:03 wizzyrea *this 20:03 oleonard maybe some, but my sense of "Gawd do you know what we'd have to go through to make them the same?" overrides it 20:03 wizzyrea totally fair, is why I asked. 20:04 cait we could relable 20:04 wizzyrea :) 20:04 cait "try again" :P 20:04 wizzyrea lol 20:04 wizzyrea owen likes it with "try again with a different barcode" 20:04 wizzyrea I t hink I did that to make the buttons the same size 20:04 wizzyrea and he was like "meh no" 20:04 wizzyrea :) 20:04 wizzyrea (which I'm ok with) 20:04 wizzyrea (it's clearer this way 20:05 wizzyrea rangi++ that is helpful knowledge. 20:05 oleonard Or maybe "OK\nFine, whatever." 20:05 wizzyrea LOL 20:06 * oleonard worries that updates to INSTALL.debian and INSTALL.ubuntu are not made concurrently when they should be 20:06 wizzyrea both of them need to advise to use packages 20:07 wizzyrea before doing a manual install. 20:07 wizzyrea the download page on the website needs to be updated to do the same 20:12 * wizzyrea issues another poke for a signoff on 6323 20:12 wizzyrea :P 20:12 rangi :) 20:12 rangi looking now 20:13 chris_n maybe we need a "poke" button in bugzilla :) 20:13 wizzyrea that sends a message to IRC! 20:13 wizzyrea that would be amazing.. 20:14 rangi needs signoff does it already 20:14 oleonard ...and activates a buzzer under someone's chair 20:14 wizzyrea right, but I want it on demand lol 20:14 wizzyrea POKE 20:14 * chris_n made the mistake of installing the 'koha' package rather than the 'koha-common' package :( 20:14 wizzyrea oops. 20:15 wizzyrea ok ok fine. 20:15 * chris_n associates peek and poke with TRS-80 20:15 chris_n opps... giving away my age 20:15 * wizzyrea had a TRS-80 20:17 chris_n stupid zebra 20:18 * maximep doesn't even know what is a TRS-80 20:18 maximep 1977. oh. 20:18 chris_n http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 20:19 maximep my first computer was an amd athlon 1.2 ghz 20:19 maximep :p 20:19 maximep not to make u feel old hehe 20:19 rhcl Amiga! 20:19 * chris_n actually owned a PC-2 once as well 20:20 cait 386? 20:20 rangi zx-81 was my first computer 20:20 chris_n maximep: my first was a home-built based around a TI-990 processor running what was called "TI-BUG Monitor" 20:20 Oak my first was an AMD k6-2, 500 MHz 20:20 chris_n all machine code programing :P 20:21 rhcl actually my 1st was a TI99/4A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_TI-99/4A 20:21 wizzyrea ok ok 20:21 wizzyrea check this out 20:21 rangi wizzyrea: patch looks fine to me 20:21 rangi signing off 20:21 wahanui signing off is a great idea! 20:21 wizzyrea woot! 20:21 wizzyrea can you see this? https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/380348_10150456133309468_559044467_10336048_6841769_n.jpg 20:21 chris_n http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-990 20:21 wizzyrea that's mah daddy, and the first computer I poked at 20:22 Oak see it yes. read it, no. 20:22 maximep wow cool 20:22 Oak oh nice 20:22 maximep 1978? 20:22 wizzyrea ya 20:22 rhcl I'm waiting for somebody else to ask wizzyrea "for real?" 20:22 wizzyrea that's my mom's handwriting at the top 20:22 ibeardslee so long ago 20:22 chris_n neat 20:23 * Oak reopens the tab 20:23 wizzyrea https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380348_10150456133309468_559044467_10336048_6841769_n.jpg 20:23 wizzyrea is that better? 20:23 chris_n much 20:24 Oak oh yes! much better 20:24 rhcl tarkio Missouri????? wow 20:24 wizzyrea *nod* 20:24 Oak it's great actually. 20:24 rhcl My mother attended there. 20:26 oleonard What paper was that wizzyrea? 20:26 rhcl looks like St. Joseph news - press 20:26 wizzyrea St Jo news-press 20:26 wizzyrea whoa! rhcl! 20:26 rhcl (I live in St. Joe) 20:27 wizzyrea my grandpa was from St. jo 20:28 wizzyrea (do note I wasn't born yet when that article came out) 20:28 wizzyrea but only just 20:29 francharb bye all! 20:29 rhcl bye 20:30 * francharb is listening to royal headache! 20:30 francharb australia rocks! 20:30 francharb ;) 20:32 rangi you cant say that and leave! 20:32 wizzyrea dirty pool lol 20:37 Oak Koha rocks! 20:37 rangi phew fixed it 20:37 wizzyrea ! 20:38 talljoy wizzyrea your dad must have been friends with mine. lol mine is a phd in chemical engineering when to grad school in missouri and we built computers for fun in the 80s. 20:39 wizzyrea ! 20:39 wizzyrea mine had a phd in chemistry too >.> 20:39 talljoy of course...i'm a tad older than you. was born and nearly double digits at time of that article. 20:40 * rangi was 5 20:43 cait hm 20:43 cait when was the article written? 20:44 wizzyrea jan 1978 20:44 cait um 20:44 rangi you wasnt borned 20:44 cait hehe nope 20:45 * wizzyrea wasn't either ;) 20:45 bg one year before my time 20:45 bg :D 20:46 bg paul_p and I share the same birthday Jan 9... 20:46 ibeardslee ahh the youth of today 20:46 trea i was nearly done cookin by jan '78 :D 20:51 * chris_n tries wizzyrea's trick 20:51 chrisdothall I wont mention how many years that was before me... 20:51 chris_n and pokes an old thread 20:51 rangi yeah chrisdothall is our child labour 20:51 * rangi cracks the whip in his direction 20:51 wizzyrea whippersnapper! 20:52 * chris_n was the same as talljoy 20:53 talljoy chris_n guess that makes us the old fogies 20:53 chris_n lol 20:53 * talljoy looks for her cane 20:53 rangi get off my lawn 20:53 trea get off my lawn! pesky kids. :P 20:53 trea lol! 20:53 rangi hah 20:54 chris_n hehe 20:54 * chris_n knew he was getting old when he began rolling up the sidewalks at 9pm 20:55 wizzyrea o/ HIGHFIVE \o 20:56 trea o/ HIGHFIVE \o 20:56 ibeardslee http://www.hi-5us.com/ ? 20:56 chrisdothall o/*\o 20:57 wizzyrea LOL <3 20:58 wizzyrea chrisdothall: that is funny I like that 20:58 wizzyrea ibeardslee: you must have little people near you 20:58 wizzyrea where little = young 20:59 ibeardslee no .. but I think there are people in here young enough to know them ;) 21:00 chrisdothall It was after my time, but my younger siblings were fans. 21:00 ibeardslee sure 21:00 chrisdothall and the people have changed... 21:00 oleonard chris_n: I've been doing some datatables testing, and I must say I'm put off by the obscurity of the config options 21:02 moodaepo So #koha who are all attending code4lib in Seattle? I heard sekjal will be...looking for more folks so we can have a merry old koha/evergreen summit : ) 21:03 chris_n oleonard: they are a bit overwhelming at first glance, I agree 21:03 * chris_n made liberal use of the many examples on the site 21:03 chris_n and searched often on the forums 21:04 * oleonard boggles that column config can be set using positive indexes counting from the left or negative indexes counting from the right 21:04 rangi moodaepo: unfortunately ive done my dash of north american travel for the near future 21:05 * chris_n is not widely enough versed in js foo to produce a good critique :( 21:05 oleonard Just seems needlessly complex 21:06 moodaepo rangi: Well one day we will have to have a OSS ILS summit in Wellington! 21:07 rangi we had kohacon here last year :) 21:07 cait last year *sigh* 21:08 chrisdothall cait: are you looking for an excuse to visit? 21:08 * moodaepo was just talking about nz & in trips being missed because we aren't involved in koha! 21:09 moodaepo What next .se? 21:09 cait chrisdothall: always :) 21:09 rangi moodaepo: declan and mjgialo suggested i run a curatecamp here .. so watch this space 21:09 cait chrisdothall: but can't believe it's already 'a year ago' 21:10 moodaepo space_watching++ 21:10 sekjal NateC? 21:10 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE 21:11 chrisdothall cait: heh, soon it will be 'two years ago' 21:11 cait chrisdothall: now you are being mean! :) 21:11 chrisdothall xD 21:12 rangi curatecamp.org/ 21:13 rangi when it comes back that is :) 21:27 wizzyrea ok, sql question of the day 21:27 rangi ok 21:27 wizzyrea probably a dumb one 21:27 rangi only dumb ones are the ones you ask 7 times on the mailing 21:27 wizzyrea lol 21:29 wizzyrea title, author, dateaccessioned, ccode and number of items on each bib for the returned set (I think we can get the limits worked out ourselves, it's the count of items on each bib that's currently stumping me) 21:29 rangi right 21:29 wizzyrea i'll add the recipe to the library in penance 21:30 rangi select title,author,dateaccessioned,ccode,count(itemnumber) from biblio,items where biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber 21:30 wizzyrea derp gah 21:31 rangi group by title 21:31 rangi limit whatever 21:32 rangi or group by biblionumber is probably safer (include it in the list of colums to select) 21:32 rangi make sense? 21:32 wizzyrea yes, makes perfect sense 21:32 rangi cool 21:33 wizzyrea thank you :) 21:33 rangi no worries 21:34 libsysguy can anybody tell me what the QueryAutoTruncate syspref does? 21:34 rangi libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/dubstep/disposable-war-pigs 21:34 rangi this will fix everything 21:34 libsysguy haha all things fixed 21:35 rangi hi paulnz 21:35 paulnz hi rangi 21:35 libsysguy well i guess by what it does i should have said do I need to reindex after I change it 21:35 paulnz can you check overdrive - they said its down 21:35 cait libsysguy: act like when you put a little star behind each search term 21:35 paulnz Could not connect to remote host. Error Message : No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 222.154.228.3:5550 Socket Error Code : 10061 Causes : Check and make sure the connection port is correct, and that that our global outside facing IP (207.54.136.106) has TCP access to it. 21:35 cait I think 21:36 rangi paulnz: ill go check now 21:36 paulnz not sure if you are getting those it emails still? 21:36 libsysguy hmm well margo turned it off and said it doesn't seem to be working :-\ 21:36 cait libsysguy: no, I don't think you have to, but someone else might know better :) 21:36 rangi did get that one 21:36 cait libsysguy: do you still use fuzzy? 21:36 libsysguy fuzzy? 21:37 libsysguy yes we do 21:37 libsysguy maybe that does it 21:38 rangi paulnz: ahh yes the server has been rebooted 21:39 rangi 2 secs 21:39 cait libsysguy: stemming might be another candidate 21:40 paulnz rangi - by you or by us? 21:40 rangi not by me 21:40 rangi and robin is at a conference so i suspect at your end 21:41 rangi paulnz: should be up now 21:41 rangi if you could get them to test 21:43 paulnz hmmmmmmmmm - so much for 'nothing changed' reply from IT 21:44 rangi heh 21:44 paulnz when was the reboot? 21:44 rangi lemme check 21:44 rangi 10:36:01 up 1 day, 7:24 21:44 rangi 31 ish hours ago 21:46 paulnz overdrive just tested now and got same error 21:47 rangi hmm well the sip server is definitely running 21:49 libsysguy cait I think what margo was looking for was a way to do exact call number searching 21:49 cait hm 21:49 libsysguy like "m27 .b4" 21:49 cait not sure about that 21:49 wizzyrea heh 21:49 wizzyrea good old m27 .b4 21:49 cait the . will be ignored for example 21:49 libsysguy because it splits on the space 21:49 libsysguy yeah i hate call numbers 21:49 libsysguy why can't we just use unique keys 21:50 cait hm 21:50 cait would a phrase callnumber index work on that? 21:50 libsysguy what is a phrase callnumber index? 21:51 cait I was thinking 21:51 cait something like the phrase search we use for other fields 21:51 cait in advanced search - more options 21:51 cait where the sequence of works matters 21:51 cait words 21:51 cait *sighs* 21:51 cait getting late here :) 21:52 rangi paulnz: pasted you some logs in a private message 21:52 libsysguy haha aww 21:52 * libsysguy hands cait cookies 21:52 cait libsysguy: thx :) 21:53 libsysguy hmm that would be something that would have to be implemented 21:53 libsysguy but would probaby work 21:53 cait hmm perhaps not 21:53 cait not sure about all that hehe 21:53 libsysguy well im not entirely sure how the code works 21:53 cait but you can do things like Control-number: in simple search forms 21:53 cait perhaps you can do something like that 21:53 cait ok, now I will stop guessing and confusing and go to bed 21:53 cait night all 21:54 libsysguy haha night cait 21:54 libsysguy thanks 21:54 libsysguy cait++ 21:54 sekjal found a fun new bug in action logs 21:54 * cait runs out 21:54 sekjal apparently, all this time, the biblionumber has been what's logged for circulation logs 21:55 sekjal but in the log view, the code is assuming it's itemnumber, and trying to look up the biblionumber and biblioitemnumber accordingly 22:05 * wizzyrea promotes a bug: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7112 22:05 huginn 04Bug 7112: normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import 23:07 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/monitor/? 23:07 rangi lets get this green again eh? 23:11 * chris_n wonders if all patch authors are running the appropriate tests on their work prior to submitting 23:13 * rangi sent up a patch to fix the templates failing one 23:18 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7242] Typo in opac-shelves.tt <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7242> 23:20 rangi worlds easiest sign off