IRC log for #koha, 2011-11-02

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02:15 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7139] Log circulation messags <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7139>
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03:25 Amit_Gupta heya chris
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03:36 druthb o/
03:48 Amit_Gupta heya druthb
03:52 bg hi Amit_Gupta
03:52 Amit_Gupta heya bg
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03:57 druthb Hi, Amit_Gupta :)
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04:25 sekjal greetings from Mumbai (for all of you not already here)!
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04:33 Amit_Gupta heya sekjal
04:33 sekjal hey, Amit_Gupta
04:33 wahanui it has been said that Amit_Gupta is druthb1
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04:34 eythian Hi
04:35 eythian @later tell cait  thanks :-)
04:35 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
04:38 eythian
04:38 Amit_Gupta heya wahanui
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04:53 druthb wahanui: forget Amit_Gupta
04:53 wahanui druthb: I forgot amit_gupta
04:53 druthb he's not me!  :)
04:53 druthb druthb?
04:53 wahanui you are rocking the sari.
04:54 druthb lol
04:55 bg mtj?
04:55 wahanui DeM KraZy NutZ!!
04:55 bg YAY
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05:28 Amit_Gupta heya mtj_mumbai
05:29 mtj_mumbai yo Amit
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05:54 Amit_Gupta heya julian_m
05:55 julian_m heya Amit_Gupta
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06:14 druthb Hi, Oak!
06:29 Amit_Gupta heya druthb
06:30 Oak oh hello druthb :)
06:30 Oak how is it going there? all well i hope.
06:31 eythian This is a talk for magnuse_away
06:31 eythian About how AARC2 sucks.
06:31 Oak oh joy
06:31 Oak where is it?
06:32 eythian Kohacon
06:32 Oak right
06:32 druthb going well, Oak..  :)
06:32 Oak druthb, goo to hear that :)
06:32 Oak good*
06:32 druthb :)
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06:45 eythian Now it's about how MARC sucks. A cause I can get behind also.
06:45 eythian wahanui: Marc
06:45 wahanui
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06:53 cait hello #koha
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06:58 druthb hi, cait.  :)
06:58 cait hi :)
07:00 Oak hello ms. cait :)
07:00 cait hi Oak :)
07:01 eythian Hi cait
07:01 cait hey eythian :)
07:01 cait how did your presentation go?
07:01 eythian Well I think.
07:01 cait :)
07:02 Oak can we see pictures? of the audience, i mean...
07:03 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7140] Add item type description on the catalogue search and detail screens <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7140>
07:03 Oak that was me trying to be funny. did not work.
07:03 eythian <-- oak
07:04 eythian :-)
07:06 Oak either the guys on your left are not interested, or, you merged two pictures to get the wide view :)
07:07 Oak again, me trying to be funny
07:07 eythian Heh. Don't quit your day job ;-)
07:07 Oak huh? :)
07:08 eythian Comedy may not be a viable career path for some...:-)
07:09 Oak aww, you broke my heart
07:09 * cait sends Oak cookies and glares at eythian
07:10 Oak hehe
07:10 * druthb glares at eythian, too, Just Because.    :D
07:10 cait druthb: it's fun hehe
07:10 eythian Hey, don't shoot the messenger!
07:11 druthb eythian:  look over your left shoulder.
07:11 druthb :D
07:23 druthb off to lunch
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07:24 sekjal ditto
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07:25 Oak adios
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07:26 Oak nah, lunch is not ready
07:29 bg Go Nigeria
07:30 Amit_Gupta heya BG
07:33 * cait thinks breakfast
07:34 Oak isn't it  late for breakfast cait
07:35 cait 8:33 am?
07:35 cait don't think so :)
07:35 Oak oh
07:36 Oak 2 hour day light saving time... there in Germany
07:36 Oak i thought it was 10ish
07:37 Oak it's 12:40 pm here
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07:41 Oak Berlin, Sunday, 30 October 2011, 03:00:00 clocks were turned backward 1 hour ([…]change.html?n=37)
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07:46 alex_a hello
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08:06 reiveune hello
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08:17 magnuse namaskar #koha
08:25 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse
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08:27 magnuse Oak
08:27 Oak magnuse
08:28 eythian Hi magnuse
08:29 eythian You missed a talk about how MARC and AARC2 are terrible.
08:30 magnuse oh noes!
08:31 magnuse my reply: MARC is dead, 'cause LoC says so:[…]ework-103111.html
08:31 magnuse time to start thinking forward:[…]Semantic_data_RFC
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08:38 druthb o/
08:38 sekjal o/
08:38 sekjal s/o\//\\o/i
08:39 * druthb blinks.
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08:39 druthb yeah, sekjal is feeling better.  He's getting sassy (and regex-ey)
08:39 * sekjal <3's regex
08:40 magnuse yay
08:41 druthb hi, magnuse!
08:41 sekjal howdy, magnuse
08:42 magnuse namaste druthb and sekjal and everyone
08:42 sophie_m hello
08:42 sekjal hi, sophie_m
08:46 Oak how was lunch
08:46 druthb teh yum.  Very tasty, and good company.
08:47 Oak good times :)
08:51 bg pretty cool video of library being built
08:54 bg git-bz?
08:54 wahanui git-bz is at[…]_bz_configuration
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08:56 francharb hello all
08:56 magnuse bonjour francharb
08:56 francharb god morgen (?) magnuse
08:57 francharb ;)
09:00 magnuse spot on, francharb ;-)
09:01 druthb @wunder mumbai
09:01 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 35.0�C (1:40 PM IST on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
09:01 * druthb wrings out her dupatta.
09:03 magnuse @wunder boo
09:03 Oak hehe
09:03 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (9:50 AM CET on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
09:05 Oak druthb,
09:07 * druthb makes a bookmark for later
09:07 Oak :)
09:07 Oak it's a song about dupatta
09:07 Oak :)
09:07 druthb :)
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09:13 paul_p @wunder mumbai
09:13 huginn paul_p: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 34.0�C (2:10 PM IST on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
09:14 paul_p well, I confirm: it's hot...
09:14 bg @wunder 93109
09:14 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 11.2�C (2:12 AM PDT on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
09:14 Amit_Gupta heya bg
09:14 sekjal @wunder 01373
09:14 huginn sekjal: The current temperature in Hatfield, Massachusetts is -2.6�C (5:08 AM EDT on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Rising).
09:14 bg yo Amit_Gupta
09:14 paul_p (and conditionned air in conference room is strong (too strong maybe, brendan&julian got a cold)
09:14 bg heh - that hot lime sauce is keeping me warm now
09:15 Amit_Gupta hee
09:15 Amit_Gupta bg: your tommorrow plan
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09:15 bg I'm going to be on the tour.  we're seeing caves and some of mumbai
09:16 Amit_Gupta ok
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09:25 paul_p sekjal, am I blind or you're not in conference room ?
09:26 paul_p ok, i'm blind...
09:26 sekjal :)
09:26 paul_p (just seated 2 chairs on my left... was searching too far ;-) )
09:26 francharb lol
09:26 bg heh
09:26 francharb well not that out loud
09:26 francharb ;)
09:26 bg :)
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09:29 Amit_Gupta :D
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09:34 slef bleah... hello #koha, what's going on?
09:34 bg hey slef
09:36 paul_p hi slef: what's going on= the kohacon11 ;-)
09:36 paul_p dobrica presenting RFID & Koha
09:36 slef paul_p: yeah, but... that's more it ;-)
09:37 slef I've been tied up with a problem in one of our consortium co-ops, not been able to follow kohacon11. :-(
09:37 slef ooh, what's that about? ISO-model tags?
09:37 paul_p what do you mean by "not be able to follow" ?
09:38 slef I mean I've not been reading any chat/reports/tweets from kohacon11 yet. :(
09:38 sekjal dpavlin hacked and reverse-engineered his RFID tags to he could create a RFID server for circ in Koha
09:38 slef ISO 28560-2 tags?
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09:38 slef or some vendor's tags?
09:38 sekjal 3M's tags
09:39 slef I don't remember whether 3M's are ISO 28560-2, the earlier-but-similar Danish open model or something else :-/
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09:40 sekjal dpavlin complained about lack of documentation on the model he was using
09:40 slef I think they might be Danish, as the 3M-compatible kit we used to use accepted Danish tags.
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09:40 sekjal so he hacked it until he figured it out (and wrote it down)
09:40 slef Well, there was one PDF when we started, but it wasn't very useful.
09:40 slef Hrm, sounds like something I should read.  Oh for more time! :)
09:40 paul_p some croatia language on his slides :D
09:43 sekjal he's even got the RFID reader working with JS, so he doesn't need any modified code, just intranetuserjs call
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09:47 sekjal ah, dpavlin has since moved to open source tags and printer, which has public documentation
09:49 magnuse yay!
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09:51 sekjal checkout out:
09:51 sekjal supports 3M 810, CPRM02, and librfid
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09:58 JesseM This guy is smart
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10:00 sekjal he showed us a video of a combined card printer and RFID writer... automated.  very cool Rube Goldberg kinda device
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10:21 slef sekjal: that's a new one on me. Sounds cool.
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11:33 francharb bye all
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12:18 hdl dpavlin++
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12:25 oleonard Whassup #koha?
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12:28 leidenfrost Can anyone tell me from where does gets the list of books?
12:28 leidenfrost I deleted the everything from biblioitems table and still getting books as search results
12:29 jwagner leidenfrost, any catalog search uses the indexes -- did you rebuild indexes after you deleted from the table?  Presumably zebra indexes unless you're set to use NoZebra.
12:31 leidenfrost jwagner: How do I rebuild the indexes?
12:33 jwagner See[…]on/faq/searching/ for a start
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12:49 Danielle \o
12:52 talljoy o/
12:53 * Danielle is doing a half-day of work today. :)
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13:00 cait hi all
13:06 oleonard Hi cait
13:07 cait hi oleonard :)
13:07 * oleonard confirms bug 7134
13:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7134 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , patron records getting funny birthdays
13:07 cait wonder what has changed there
13:08 oleonard Not the database structure. dateofbirth still defaults to null
13:08 * Danielle submits her notice!
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13:12 cait :)
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13:20 leidenfrost jwagner_away: Thank you, it worked.
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13:44 wizzyrea stupid 6253
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13:51 cait and hi again #koha
13:54 Danielle Hi again, cait!
13:54 cait hi Danielle :)
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14:13 jcamins_away bug 6253
14:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine
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14:14 jcamins Good morning, #koha.
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14:20 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7137] fixed width table where it should be variable <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7137>
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14:29 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:29 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.3�C (3:24 PM CET on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
14:29 eythian @wunder mumbai
14:29 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0�C (7:10 PM IST on November 02, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
14:30 wizzyrea oh hi eythian
14:30 eythian hiya
14:31 cait hi eythian
14:31 eythian hello cait
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14:36 cait hi sekjal :)
14:37 jcamins Hi eythian, sekjal, and cait.
14:39 cait hi jcamins
14:39 cait now that everyone is here... I have to change trains
14:39 cait hmpf
14:39 cait bye all
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14:43 wizzyrea oh that's funny, it looks like in the OPAC, the current location of an item is shown at the library it's currently at, but the URL for it is the URL for it's homebranch.
14:43 wizzyrea http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]iblionumber=62931
14:43 wizzyrea click ottawa
14:44 oleonard There's a bug for that. I thought my patch for that had been approved.
14:44 wizzyrea oo
14:44 oleonard Bug 6600
14:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6600 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Library name linking wrong if current location is different
14:44 sekjal hi cait, jcamins, everyone!
14:45 Danielle Right, resignation submitted; two weeks today I'm off to a new job.
14:45 wizzyrea ok yea, thanks that will be in our next update
14:46 wizzyrea congrats Danielle :D
14:50 trea congrats
14:51 Danielle Thanks. I'm looking forward to it...the golden handcuffs don't chaff yet. ;)
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15:03 * magnuse waves
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15:05 magnuse namaste mtj_mumbai
15:06 magnuse how's the chili-hunt going?
15:06 mtj_mumbai hey magnus
15:07 mtj_mumbai chilli hunting is on hold
15:07 magnuse oh noes
15:07 mtj_mumbai kmkale has a chilli experience arranged for me this week
15:08 mtj_mumbai ... so i am keeping quiet
15:08 magnuse hehe
15:10 mtj_mumbai robin, me , ian and ruth are hanging out at the hotel
15:10 * magnuse waves
15:11 magnuse any plans for tonight?
15:11 magnuse probably pretty late already?
15:11 mtj_mumbai chatting and working on some koha stuff
15:11 magnuse yay!
15:11 magnuse working_on_koha++
15:13 mtj_mumbai we have a very early day_trip to elephanta island
15:13 magnuse yay!
15:13 mtj_mumbai tomorrow,
15:13 mtj_mumbai all the other peeps are out at dinner
15:13 magnuse wait, the time is 8.41 pm where you are? fortyone? there's a half hour difference?!?
15:14 mtj_mumbai but us 4, decided to stay back an have a quiet nite
15:15 magnuse yay, sounds nice for a change...
15:17 mtj_mumbai yeah, im keen for a little 'down time'
15:17 magnuse will probably be a lot of "up time" tomorrow... ;-)
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15:20 libsysguy Hi everybody
15:21 libsysguy Testing the irc from my iPad
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15:21 eythian eww ipad sellout
15:21 eythian :)
15:22 libsysguy It's all the university would by me to develop on :'(
15:22 magnuse hmf
15:22 libsysguy But yes I share your sentiments
15:22 * magnuse wants a tablet with ubuntu on it
15:22 * eythian <3's his transformer tablet
15:22 trea :D
15:22 eythian apparently you can put ubuntu on some versions, though not mine
15:23 libsysguy The are working on that though
15:23 libsysguy At least that is what I have read
15:23 eythian yeah
15:23 magnuse yay
15:23 libsysguy Probably on reddit lol
15:23 magnuse gotta have perl, mysql and apache so you can run koha...
15:24 magnuse s/you /i/
15:24 libsysguy Oh I have a rando question....for my senior project I get to recruit 2 classmates and work on koha..Any project ideas
15:24 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7141] The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141>
15:25 libsysguy Man. I've gotta work on this keyboard
15:25 magnuse ubuntu are saying they will be on tablets - by 2014?
15:25 oleonard Why did I just get a bounce message from
15:26 magnuse libsysguy: what's the "frame" for the project?
15:27 libsysguy It's kind of free reign...typically employers come in with project ideas and the professor divides them up to the class and you work on then all semester
15:27 magnuse cool - so 3 people for 1 semester?
15:28 libsysguy Yes
15:28 libsysguy Including yours truly
15:28 magnuse if i were you i'd send an email to the devel list, asking for tips
15:28 magnuse yay ;-)
15:29 libsysguy Haha yeah thats a good boss will have to be the one to submit the project so ultimately the decision is up to her
15:29 libsysguy But I'm sure she's open to suggestions
15:29 sekjal libsysguy:  I can round up ideas for you by next Monday
15:29 libsysguy Haha wow you need all the way to Monday lol
15:29 sekjal at the KohaCon hackfest, we're going to have a brainstorming session
15:29 wizzyrea libsysguy: get on the gaming one
15:29 wizzyrea gamify koha
15:29 wizzyrea do something fun
15:30 wizzyrea you want to
15:30 wizzyrea you know you do
15:30 libsysguy Oh wait you aren't near the board sekjal
15:30 * wizzyrea uses the jedi mind trick on libsysguy
15:30 libsysguy Haha make research a game
15:30 wizzyrea[…]suqQBEWTG119bEH_w
15:30 wizzyrea yujes
15:30 wizzyrea yikes
15:30 libsysguy You found the book you were looking for in less that 6 searches
15:30 libsysguy You win
15:30 wizzyrea hehe
15:31 libsysguy Haha ugh I can't click that on ye old iPad
15:31 wizzyrea lulz
15:31 wizzyrea ok
15:31 wizzyrea sec
15:31 wizzyrea[…]Gamifying_the_ILS
15:31 libsysguy Oh ok I see it now
15:31 libsysguy Hmm lol
15:32 wizzyrea and
15:32 sekjal libsysguy:  generalize borrower messaging preferences to ALL kinds of borrower preferences
15:32 wizzyrea there *might* be money to do that
15:32 libsysguy Uuu
15:32 wizzyrea (is still rough, but we are submitting this for a grant)
15:32 libsysguy I know what Margo wants to do
15:32 libsysguy She wants us to rewrite notices
15:33 wizzyrea but that's not fun. :P
15:33 libsysguy Yeah but every time she has to deal with my script she almost screams :-p
15:33 wizzyrea *almost*
15:33 sekjal wizzyrea: I'm all for fun, but if this is an educational endeavor, just as much could be learned working on plumbing
15:33 libsysguy If it wasn
15:33 libsysguy Oops
15:33 sekjal stuff there WON'T be money for
15:34 wizzyrea sigh fine.
15:34 libsysguy Haha sekjal makes all the money anyway
15:35 libsysguy Aww is can't do irc actions on
15:36 eythian irc actions are independent of the client
15:36 libsysguy I just got an unknown command error from the server who's tried / me
15:37 libsysguy Maybe it's th other \
15:37 libsysguy \ me is trying
15:37 libsysguy \me tries again
15:37 sekjal libsysguy: just trying to get the most good stuff into Koha as possible for 3.8
15:37 sekjal if you find a fun project, do it
15:37 sekjal libraries need features
15:38 libsysguy Yeah and so do I
15:38 sekjal developers are the ones primarily interested in plumbing
15:38 libsysguy Speaking are some of my projects looking for master?
15:38 sekjal hourly loans and locations in search results?
15:38 libsysguy I use the terms loosely
15:38 libsysguy Yeah
15:38 libsysguy Know locations is probably held up
15:38 libsysguy But hourly should be good
15:39 sekjal unfortunately, the same as they were before I left for Mumbai
15:39 wizzyrea it's a point of contention whether or not libraries need features :P at some point the plumbing becomes the feature.
15:39 wizzyrea and sometimes the features aren't for the libraries
15:39 wizzyrea sometimes the features are for the people.
15:39 sekjal libsysguy: hourly needs another testing after your latest patching
15:39 wizzyrea (because koha is for the users, right?)
15:39 wizzyrea (and users = both libraries and your average library user)
15:39 sekjal wizzyrea: sigh fine :)
15:40 wizzyrea hehe
15:40 libsysguy Psh whatever wizzy it's for the devels
15:40 * wizzyrea gives libsysguy the mom eye. You know the one.
15:40 libsysguy Ok so I just have to let you blitz it again sekjal
15:40 oleonard Just as long as sekjal gets to put something in a matrix he'll be happy
15:40 libsysguy \me runs and hides
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15:40 * wizzyrea laughs
15:41 wizzyrea I think you people are among the best on the planet, I hope you all know that.
15:41 libsysguy Does he row reduce and find the eigen values too?
15:42 libsysguy Aww wizzy...
15:42 jcamins libsysguy: you're using backslashes. You should use forward slashes.
15:42 libsysguy Grr
15:42 libsysguy Yeah that gets blocked by my client
15:43 libsysguy Odd..
15:44 libsysguy But thanks jcamins for preventing me from looking retarded :-p
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15:46 sekjal libsysguy:  no eigen values since my math student days
15:47 libsysguy That is sad sekjal
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15:55 sekjal libsysguy must have this hotel's same ISP
15:58 wizzyrea i bet he's app switching on his ipad
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15:59 magnuse wizzyrea: gives me 504 Gateway Time-out...
15:59 wizzyrea I think typewithme is having troubles today
15:59 wizzyrea it had been working
15:59 magnuse looks like it..
16:00 * wizzyrea facepalms "Nuts!"
16:00 magnuse hey, i'm facepalming peanuts as we speak!
16:01 wizzyrea is that like crushing beercans?
16:01 oleonard select count(biblionumber) from biblio where title is null; Result: 619
16:01 wizzyrea arg
16:01 wizzyrea lol
16:02 magnuse ouch?
16:06 jcamins oleonard: I hope that's not on your production server?
16:06 oleonard :(
16:06 reiveune bye
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16:06 wizzyrea nexpress has 13 >.>
16:08 magnuse that could be a canned report somewhere, for checking the sanity of your catalogue...
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16:25 magnuse guten abend cait
16:31 magnuse hm, are 999 c and d equally good sources of biblionumbers, or is one of them more reliable than the other?
16:31 jcamins magnuse: 999c.
16:31 magnuse ok, thanks
16:32 magnuse what's the difference between them?
16:32 jcamins magnuse: in principle, 999d should work just as well, but in practice, the biblionumber is more constant than the biblioitemnumber.
16:32 cait hi all :)
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16:32 magnuse ah, so c = biblionumber and d = biblioitemnumber?
16:32 * magnuse didn't know that
16:33 jcamins Right.
16:33 magnuse thanks!
16:33 magnuse hiya cait
16:37 oleonard Ever make your own cheese jcamins?
16:38 jcamins oleonard: just fresh cheese. Like ricotta and panir.
16:39 * oleonard had a home cheesemaking book cross his desk just now
16:40 jcamins Mmm.
16:41 * magnuse has made paneer a couple times too, but is above average interested in cheesemaking ;-)
16:41 oleonard But who am I kidding, I don't even have time to make a proper dinner most days
16:41 * oleonard shouldn't embark on any project that might take up to 6 months to complete
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16:42 jcamins Wow. This puppet show has been playing for 85 years.
16:42 oleonard Hello, robotic trea
16:42 jcamins More-or-less continuously.
16:42 treadroid hi there
16:43 * jcamins has a book in Georgian to catalog.
16:43 jcamins This is going to be a challenge.
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17:00 Oak \o
17:01 cait hi Oak :)
17:01 Oak hello miss cait :)
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17:30 magnuse jcamins: maybe you could have a chat with these guys: ;-)
17:33 jcamins magnuse: nifty!
17:35 * jcamins may or may not have transcribed the title and author(s).
17:35 * jcamins moves back to Russian books.
17:35 magnuse hehe
17:36 magnuse anyone know how to view this? http://internetarchive.github.[…]sentation/#slide1 i get the first slide, then a little bit of the second one on the right, but no way to scroll or see the rest...
17:37 jcamins In Chrome it just scrolls.
17:37 jcamins Use the arrow keys.
17:38 magnuse ah, thanks - too obvious...
17:44 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "transforming oai records" (37 lines) at
17:44 magnuse any xslt gurus around?
17:44 magnuse i'm trying to copy 999c to 001, and not quite getting there...
17:45 jwagner magnuse, what are you trying to do?  Display the 999c instead of the 001?
17:46 magnuse jwagner: in records returned by oai, the contents of 001 should be what is in 999c
17:46 magnuse did that make sense?
17:47 jcamins magnuse: Is that the entire spreadsheet?
17:47 jcamins s/spreadsheet/stylesheet/
17:47 jwagner What's the test criteria for records returned by OAI?
17:47 magnuse jcamins: yup
17:47 magnuse jwagner: test criteria?
17:47 jwagner So anything using this stylesheet should display the 999c?
17:48 magnuse jwagner: yeah, 001 should have the same value as 999c
17:48 jwagner Then I'd just remove the 001 field entry and tell it to display 999c rather than trying to change the value
17:48 jwagner Can you do that?
17:49 jcamins magnuse: what happens if you remove the /text() from the match?
17:50 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "i have this and want this" (59 lines) at
17:50 magnuse jcamins: then 001 disappears completely
17:51 jcamins magnuse: good. That's what was supposed to happen.
17:51 magnuse jwagner: i need the 001 to be there, with the same value as 999c...
17:51 magnuse jcamins: yay! ;-)
17:52 pastebot "jcamins" at pasted "magnuse: try this" (19 lines) at
17:54 magnuse jcamins: that gave me   <controlfield xmlns="" xmlns:marc="" xmlns:items="" xmlns:package="info:srw/extension/13/package-v1.0" tag="001"/>
17:54 jcamins Hm. That's not what I anticipated.
17:54 jcamins marc:controlfield instead of controlfield?
17:55 magnuse hmf, same result
17:57 jcamins Try what you had originally, but put a slash at the beginning of the select?
18:00 magnuse jcamins: hm, one slash didn't change anything, but two gives me the value from the first 999c...
18:01 jwagner The "first" 999c?  You shouldn't have more than one in a record....
18:01 jcamins magnuse: oh, there are multiple records here?
18:01 jcamins Hmm.
18:01 jcamins parent()/
18:02 magnuse yup - sory for not pointing that out - the // works for one record...
18:03 magnuse this <xsl:value-of select="parent()/marc:datafield[@tag=9​99]/marc:subfield[@code='c']/text()"/>
18:03 magnuse gives me xmlXPathCompOpEval: function parent not found
18:03 jwagner Bug 6657 for one situation where multiple 999c causes problems
18:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6657 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Making 999 visible in framework duplicates 999 entry and affects index
18:03 * magnuse sucks at xslt
18:05 jcamins jwagner: that's one 999c per record.
18:05 jcamins jwagner: the situation that magnuse is dealing with, I mean.
18:05 jcamins magnuse: hm. I guess I was wrong about parent() being a selector.
18:05 * jwagner exhales
18:05 jwagner You mean multiple records, each with a single 999c
18:06 jcamins Right.
18:06 jcamins magnuse: replace parent() with .. (two dots)
18:06 magnuse hey, i think   <xsl:value-of select="../../marc:datafield[@tag=999​]/marc:subfield[@code='c']/text()"/> did the trick!
18:07 magnuse yup, it's consistent for all the records
18:07 magnuse woohoo!
18:07 jcamins ../..? Oh, I forgot you were selecting text()
18:07 jcamins Yeah, makes sense.
18:08 magnuse jcamins++
18:08 magnuse jwagner++
18:09 jwagner Good, but jcamins deserves the karma -- I got lost about the second step there....
18:09 magnuse hehe, you get it anyway ;-)
18:10 jcamins magnuse: what is it you're doing, btw?
18:10 magnuse jcamins: it's for the national library of norway - they are harvesting records for a national, federated search, and demand to have the bibliotenumber in 001...
18:11 magnuse not sure why they couldn't just do the transformation themselves...
18:11 magnuse prototype:
18:12 magnuse they need to work on de-duping...[…]ery=jo+nesb%C3%B8
18:20 slef mmmm fun
18:20 slef no-one transforms like koha developers can!
18:22 Oak me go now.
18:22 Oak good night
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18:46 * magnuse is off to turn left over pork ribs into something yummy
18:47 magnuse thanks #koha-folks, for being the bestest!
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18:48 cait aaw
18:48 cait :)
18:50 lavamind hello
18:51 lavamind quick question : do rebuild_zebra have any logic to prevent multiple instances ? I'd like to do a full rebuild, but I dont want */5 cron to interfere.
18:59 wizzyrea I don't think that it does, it's best to stop the cronjob.
18:59 wizzyrea at least, afaik
18:59 wizzyrea can I ask a favor, click this: is it fast or slow?
19:00 oleonard Fast for me
19:00 wizzyrea or somewhere inbetween
19:00 * wizzyrea does a happy dance
19:00 wizzyrea ty :)
19:01 jcamins lavamind: no, you'll end up with your system deadlocked if you're trying to rebuild on a busy server.
19:01 jcamins lavamind: better to disable the rebuild_zebra.
19:03 cait hm
19:04 cait took a moment but then was fast
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19:18 lavamind jcamins: ok, thanks.
19:19 rangi lavamind: eythian and I are working on adding locking, should be in the next few weeks but for now, yeah comment out the cron job
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19:30 wizzyrea mornin rangi
19:31 rangi sup wizzyrea
19:31 trea morning
19:32 rangi hey trea
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19:35 lavamind rangi: does this make sense to you :
19:35 lavamind normal rebuild during the day, full rebuild at night ?
19:36 rangi i dont do the full rebuild
19:36 rangi but it shouldnt hurt if you want to :)
19:46 lavamind okay, I'll monitor the situation then, instead
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20:25 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7095] Merge Marker Test Issues Unclear Failure Messages <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7095>
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20:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6968] Show items expired before today in check expiration of serials page <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6968> / [Bug 5549] Hourly Loans <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549> / [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668>
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22:01 wahanui cait was last seen on #koha 2 hours, 57 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: took a moment but then was fast [Wed Nov  2 19:02:29 2011]
22:02 * cait giggles
22:02 libsysguy hehe hi cait
22:02 cait hi libsysguy :)
22:02 libsysguy so I have a question about your hourly comment?
22:03 libsysguy can I still sign off after I test because I still have it in production
22:03 libsysguy I just don't want to break a rule
22:03 libsysguy …I know how hard it would be to test that one
22:03 jcamins_away Bad libsysguy! No rule breaking!
22:04 wizzyrea pf
22:04 cait libsysguy: I am not totally sure - qa should decide
22:04 wizzyrea ok later
22:04 cait but technically
22:04 libsysguy haha im all about breaking the rules
22:04 cait as you have done the follow ups
22:04 cait you can't sign-off on them
22:04 cait but qa could say it's ok
22:04 libsysguy that is what I thought
22:04 cait I was only tidying up the new 'no status' list
22:04 ebegin ls
22:05 cait :)
22:05 libsysguy I just don't know who else could test :-/
22:05 cait best is you ask sekjal
22:05 ebegin oups.. wrong window... (ls)
22:05 cait pushed to qa seemed wrong to me, as this should be used for brnaches on koha's git repo I think
22:05 libsysguy yeah he said he was going to run it though QA when he got back from India
22:06 libsysguy jcamins_away:
22:06 libsysguy also I think you should be banned from using away :p
22:07 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, I know, I posted that on all my social media profiles when I realized I started the process.
22:07 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
22:07 libsysguy haha it is one of my favorite comics
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