IRC log for #koha, 2011-10-31

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00:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7117] Small display problems when organising suggestion tabs by name <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7117>
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00:29 Judit hi
00:29 wahanui hola, Judit
00:36 cait hi Judit :)
00:37 Judit hi cait
00:37 Judit tell me something good
00:38 cait um
00:38 cait now I can't - too much pressure
00:38 Judit i need someencouragement
00:39 Judit i just spent 3 hours configuring a slip printet on winxp
00:43 cait oh
00:43 cait I had some windows time today too
00:43 cait it's evil
00:43 Judit it is
00:43 cait hmmm
00:43 cait I am presenting to students at library school tomorrow
00:43 cait about koha and open source ils
00:43 Judit last time i used windows xp 10 years ago
00:43 cait is this good?
00:43 Judit very good!
00:45 Judit tell them not to use win xp- freaks out poor koha people :)
00:45 Judit or just me
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00:49 cait hehe
00:49 cait I can try
00:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7118] Any and empty entries in pull downs for suggestion filters <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7118>
00:57 Judit it works
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00:57 Judit i can print slips from koha
00:58 cait whoohoo :)
01:00 Judit :)
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02:43 * chris_n wanders by
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03:41 Amit_Gupta heya chris
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03:52 sekjal greetings from KohaCon '11 !
03:53 rangi heya sekjal and Amit_Gupta
03:53 Amit_Gupta heya sekjal
03:53 sekjal good morning, Amit_Gupta
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03:54 rangi many people there?
03:54 druthb o/
03:54 rangi hey druthb
03:54 rangi jo up now?
03:55 Amit_Gupta chris i m going to mumbai on 4th for hackfast
03:56 sekjal rangi:  I think there are about 100 people in the room right now
03:56 rangi cool not bad sekjal
03:56 rangi Amit_Gupta: cool
03:57 druthb I concur sekjal's count...100, possibly a few more.  There's a large crowd of students in the back of one side.
03:58 rangi cool
03:58 Amit_Gupta heya druthb
03:59 rangi jransom killing it with her slides?
03:59 sekjal she's doing a lovely job
03:59 * druthb is tweeting.  rangi has already been mentioned.
04:00 rangi heh
04:00 druthb she looks *glorious* in her sari.
04:00 rangi i hope it was marc must die that i was quoted saying
04:00 rangi or 'these rules are crazy'
04:00 druthb nope.  "How hard can it be?"
04:00 rangi that came up a few times
04:00 druthb :P
04:01 rangi it wouldnt be hard if libraries had sane rules :)
04:01 rangi i need to only issue this book if the moon is 3/4 full .... but only on tuesdays
04:02 druthb lol
04:02 sekjal unless the patron is wearing a hat, or has ever been to East Timor
04:02 rangi i think im going to use that as the title of my next presentation
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04:12 druthb rangi and wizzyrea both mentioned right at the end; she can't remember which came up with "don't be a dick!"
04:13 rangi heh
04:13 rangi i think wizzyrea
04:15 sekjal paul_p's up now, to present on Koha's history
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04:16 rangi cool
04:17 druthb he apologized for his accent:  "I'm from France...I'm French."      hehehehe
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04:35 * druthb waves to Irma from the back of the room
04:38 Irma hi druthb ah ... that is where you are ...
04:38 Irma is mtj there too?
04:39 sekjal Irma:  yes, mtj is behind druthb and I.  back of the left-hand side of the room
04:41 druthb Irma:  I'm @druthb on twitter...may I follow you?
04:54 sekjal I do so love the "10 Years in 10 Minutes" video... always so inspiring
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04:58 druthb buffering...buffering...
05:06 sekjal idea for Koha stats:  contributions by country (via paul_p)
05:08 sekjal tea/coffee break!
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05:13 * Oak waves
05:13 Oak kia ora druthb :)
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05:24 stuartyeates rangi: looks like i've been surprise-nominated to provide tech support for a session you and Paul are running tomorrow at lianza
05:24 stuartyeates but i have no idea what's needed
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05:39 francharb hi all!
05:39 francharb in direct from kohacon2011
05:39 francharb ;)
05:39 Amit_Gupta heya francharb
05:40 * Oak wants to say "lucky bastards" but thinks that would be rude.
05:41 Oak some thoughts must never be spoken.
05:47 druthb Hi, Oak!  I do wish you were here, my friend.
05:48 Oak :) i know.
05:48 Oak hopefully next year though...
05:48 druthb :D
05:49 * Oak goes to find that Pink Floyd song
05:54 Oak
05:57 bg helll
06:01 Amit_Gupta ;D
06:01 * druthb waves to bg, and chucks Skittles at him from the back of the room.
06:01 bg heh
06:02 bg Amit_Gupta: are you here?
06:02 bg whoops that was supposed to be hello not helll
06:02 bg heh typos upfront
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06:21 francharb brooke's fantasy is about to begin
06:21 francharb :)
06:24 AndChat| <-- Brooke
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06:26 Oak coooool
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06:41 sci123 Forbidden  You don't have permission to access / on this server.  Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
06:41 sci123 can anyone help us
06:41 sci123 pls
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06:47 francharb almost lunch time
06:47 francharb see ya
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06:49 eythian sci123: your Apache is mis-configured. I can't really say how, but that's where you need to look.
06:50 sci123 actually 80 port is running 8080  is not
06:50 sci123 can u help us
06:50 sci123 ?
06:51 sci123 when we try to run koha on localhost:8080,we r getting the follwing error :
06:51 sci123 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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06:53 sci123 eythianr u there?
06:57 sekjal sci123:  have you updated ports.conf to include line "Listen 8080" ?
06:57 sci123 yes
06:57 sekjal and restarted Apache after?
06:58 sci123 yes
06:58 sci123 we r getting permission problem
06:58 sci123 regarding 8080 port
06:58 sekjal firewall?
06:58 sci123 we r installing it on ubuntu
06:58 sci123 ..
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07:01 sekjal NameVirtualHosts in koha-httpd.conf?
07:02 sci123 #NameVirtualHost *  this
07:02 sci123 ?
07:02 sci123 right nw it is commented
07:02 sci123 we have to uncomment it or not?
07:02 sci123 and wat to write ?
07:03 sekjal try uncommenting, but the default settings should work out-of-the-box
07:03 sci123 let me try
07:04 sci123 it is nt working
07:04 sci123 sry
07:05 sekjal check file permissions in koha directories... that's the last thing I can think of.  should be readable by www-data user
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07:06 sekjal I hope that helps... I must go now (break time at KohaCon conference).  back in an hour or so
07:06 * sekjal waves to cait on his way to lunch
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07:06 cait hi #koha :)
07:07 sci123 help us
07:07 sci123 koha is not running on 8080 port
07:07 sci123 we r getting permisswion problem
07:07 sci123 permission*
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07:10 Oak hello cait
07:12 cait hi Oak :)
07:12 Oak :]
07:13 cait sci123: I am not sure how to help you without knowing what you have done (and apache does not like me much)
07:14 sci123 we have followed all the steps .......................changed all the apache configuration file
07:14 sci123 s
07:14 sci123 and when tried to run webinstaller on 8080
07:14 sci123 we got an error that we have no permission to access / on this server
07:14 sci123 nw help us
07:15 rangi stuartyeates: ahh just laptops with a webbrowser on them, we should be fine :)
07:16 sci123 ???
07:17 cait sci123: i think that was on a different topic
07:17 cait what is the exact error message you see?
07:17 sci123 Forbidden  You don't have permission to access / on this server.  Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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07:18 cait sci123: this looks like a problem with your apache settings
07:18 cait not koha
07:19 sci123 plz help us
07:19 sci123 can u tell us what to do
07:19 sci123 ?
07:20 cait sorry, I have to go
07:20 sci123 ok thanx alot for ur time
07:21 cait if you can, come back a little later and try again asking on the channel or write a mail to the mailing list, but make sure to include as much information as possible (version you installed, tutorial you followed, problems you see)
07:21 sci123 we already installed koha 5 times
07:22 sci123 this time we got 8080 problem
07:28 stuartyeates sci123: that looks very much like an apache permissions error
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07:41 reiveune hello
07:41 wahanui hi, reiveune
07:43 Oak hello reiveune :)
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08:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6679] Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679>
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08:04 rangi you're up in a couple of hours eh eythian ?
08:05 eythian Yeah about 3.5 hours
08:05 cait hi mr robin :)
08:05 rangi cool
08:05 eythian Hi cait :)
08:05 rangi it going well?
08:05 magnuse kia ora #koha
08:06 eythian So far, about 3 people have foreshadowed my topic :)
08:06 eythian It is going pretty well
08:06 magnuse must be a good topic, then!
08:06 eythian I think so ;)
08:07 magnuse "No Library Left Behind: Keeping Up With Koha" yay!
08:07 eythian All about upstreaming of things
08:08 rangi sweet
08:08 magnuse upstreaming++
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08:08 cait 8zuu
08:08 cait u
08:08 cait 9zeeuu
08:09 magnuse oops
08:09 magnuse ;-)
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08:09 cait oups
08:10 eythian Time cait changed some passwords...
08:10 cait was carrying laptop downstars
08:10 * cait note to myself: don't use laptop keyboard as tray
08:10 eythian Heh
08:10 magnuse hehe
08:10 Oak magnuse
08:10 magnuse Oak
08:11 Oak hello Mr. Robin
08:11 eythian Hi oak
08:11 Oak :)
08:11 cait hi Oak :)
08:12 cait eythian: when is your presentation?
08:12 Oak :) hello Katrin
08:12 eythian In a few hours
08:13 cait hm mine too
08:14 cait was wondering if we will be presenting at the same time :)
08:14 cait mine starts in 2:30
08:15 rangi pretty close
08:15 eythian Actually, mines in 2.15, I miscalculated before
08:15 cait :)
08:15 bg heya all
08:15 cait I will tell them to not listen to me but check the tweets
08:15 eythian Haha
08:15 magnuse hi bg
08:16 Oak well, now when two will start your own presentations, you'll think about that! about the the other one. nice.
08:16 magnuse cait: where are you presenting?
08:16 cait library school
08:17 eythian You could be presenting here, but nooooo.. ;)
08:17 magnuse cait: cool
08:17 cait lol
08:17 cait it's scary enough in German
08:17 cait perhaps if I could chat the presentation instead of talking... that could work :P
08:18 eythian Heh it might, no promises though :)
08:20 Oak hm, a little bird just tweeted
08:20 magnuse yay!
08:21 * cait checks herself for feathers
08:24 * eythian uploads a couple of photos
08:25 cait eythian: link?
08:26 eythian
08:26 magnuse eythian++
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08:27 cait brooke in a sari photo!
08:27 magnuse yay!
08:27 magnuse hiya sekjal
08:27 Oak yup :)
08:28 sekjal hi, magnuse!
08:28 cait ok, have to go
08:28 magnuse having fun, sekjal?
08:28 cait good luck eythian :)
08:28 sekjal hi, cait, bye cait!
08:29 magnuse guten gl�ck cait
08:29 sekjal magnuse:  yes, this is amazing
08:29 cait thx magnuse :)
08:29 eythian You too!
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08:29 eythian Paul is up now again
08:29 magnuse yay
08:30 sekjal paul_p talking about how the community works
08:30 sekjal my answer: very well :)
08:30 rangi :)
08:30 magnuse paul_p++
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08:31 Oak just a quick question meaning to ask since that day ([…]11-10-26#i_798078), and i run perl Makefile.PL from inside that cloned folder, yes? if yes then if I choose 'dev', from 'standard', 'single' and 'dev'. right? I know it's not the best time to ask this question (KohaCon!!). so sorry about that in advance.
08:31 rangi yes, dev
08:31 Oak ok good. thank you.
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08:32 Amit_Gupta heya Oak
08:32 Oak Namaste Amit_Gupta  :)
08:32 Amit_Gupta Namaste
08:32 Amit_Gupta ;D
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08:34 Oak welcome back druthb
08:35 druthb Thanks, Oak.  We're back from lunch, and paul_p is at the front again.  The food was wonderful!  I got hold of something *really* spicy, though.
08:36 magnuse hehe
08:36 Oak hehe.
08:36 Oak enjoy karein ji ap.
08:37 Oak you should try Baryani in next lunch... or tomorrow
08:38 * magnuse wonders if mtj found anything hot enough yet
08:38 sekjal how many people are on the mailing list, roughly?
08:39 rangi the main one?
08:39 rangi 1684
08:39 sekjal thanks, rangi!
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08:54 eythian_phone Ok all the photos I have are up now
08:54 druthb Hi, cait!
08:54 Amit_Gupta heya druthb
08:57 druthb hi, Amit_Gupta! :)
08:59 Amit_Gupta druthb: how is conference going on
08:59 magnuse eythian_phone: looks like the kohacon11 tag isn't working for you? strange...
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09:00 eythian_phone Yeah I don't know why, maybe it takes time to update.
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09:01 druthb Amit_Gupta: going well.  Very nice conference facility, lots of friendly local folk here....and the lunch was *wonderful*.
09:01 eythian Yeah I don't know why, maybe it takes time to update.
09:01 magnuse eythian: yeah, could be
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09:13 sekjal would it be possible to get download statistics from for India, by state if possible?
09:14 sekjal do we store those stats?
09:14 rangi hmm not by state
09:14 rangi we have by country
09:14 sekjal link?
09:15 rangi http://download.koha-community[…]wstats/
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09:15 rangi click on countries on the lef
09:15 rangi t
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09:15 rangi 115 in october
09:15 * druthb waves to jransom.
09:15 rangi 106 in september
09:15 jransom heya all
09:15 rangi hey jransom
09:15 wahanui hmmm... jransom is so pleased!
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09:16 jransom how was lianza today rangi?
09:16 magnuse kia ora jransom
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09:16 rangi not bad, got a lot of govt depts coming to talk to us
09:16 jransom heya magnus-in-a-kilt
09:16 magnuse tee hee
09:16 mtj_mumbai hi all
09:16 rangi tomorrow is workship
09:16 rangi shop even
09:16 sekjal great, thank you, rangi
09:17 sekjal a colleague here is doing a research paper
09:17 mtj_mumbai jransom: i've got your multi-box
09:17 * magnuse lols at workship
09:17 magnuse mtj_mumbai: found any chili to your liking yet?
09:18 mtj_mumbai magnuse:  not yet, but tonight i will :p
09:19 * druthb has gotta-gotta get some work done tonight.  After going to the tailor to pick up my sari, of course.
09:19 magnuse happy hunting mtj_mumbai!
09:19 sekjal FYI:  annual view of AWS stats for is disabled; can only view by month
09:19 rangi yup
09:19 rangi thats on purpose
09:19 rangi it beats the hell out of the server
09:19 mtj_mumbai we may go out later, for a kolhapuri rassa
09:20 rangi so ppl will just have to aggregate themselves
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09:23 sekjal rangi:  okay, cool
09:23 jransom mtj_mumbai : i am in bcak of room
09:23 jransom behind brooke
09:24 jransom @rangi funny that govt departs are moving to koha bit not libraries
09:24 huginn jransom: I've exhausted my database of quotes
09:24 eythian
09:24 rangi 2612 + 269 + 444
09:24 wahanui 3325
09:24 druthb jransom: I finally spotted changed!?  I was looking for that wonderful sari!
09:24 rangi you mean public libraries?
09:25 rangi they are slow slow slow
09:25 rangi to decided anything
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09:25 rangi specials, govt, academic etc all move a lot faster
09:25 rangi 3325 downloads of 3.4.5 or 3.6.0 in october alone
09:26 jransom i had to go back to hotel
09:26 jransom but came back
09:26 jransom (so sick of being sick)
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09:26 jransom and determined not to miss out on anything at kohacon - bad enough with 1 day io bed preconference
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09:32 jransom and here we all are
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09:33 * druthb1 wonders how this network got hos hiccup-ey.
09:33 * cait waves
09:33 cait and off again - train arriving :)
09:33 Oak later cait
09:34 Oak do talk to strangers
09:34 jransom cya babe
09:34 rangi cya cait
09:37 Amit_Gupta heya cait
09:37 Oak perl Makefile.PL says, "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /home/silas/koha1/C4/ line 307." do I ignore it and go for 'dev' installation?
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09:38 * Oak googles "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml"
09:38 druthb1 yes, Oak...on a new install, it'll do that.
09:39 Oak oh good
09:39 Oak okay
09:39 Oak thank you.
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09:55 jransom Amit: are you here at KohaCon?
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09:57 Amit_Gupta heya jransom: i am coming on 4th nov
09:57 Amit_Gupta for kohaconf
09:58 druthb1 away for tea.   back shortly.
09:58 sekjal ^^
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10:10 cait and hi again #koha ;)
10:11 Amit_Gupta heya cait
10:11 cait hi Amit_Gupta :)
10:11 Amit_Gupta cait : r u in conf?
10:11 cait no
10:11 cait in stuttgart today to give a presentation about koha
10:11 Amit_Gupta ok
10:11 cait but seems people are having a good time at the conf :)
10:11 cait you are there?
10:12 Amit_Gupta no i m going on 4th
10:12 Amit_Gupta nov
10:16 cait :)
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10:30 cait ok, I am gone
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10:45 jransom Amit: please make sure you come and introduce yourself to me ok :)
10:46 bg same here Amit!  I need to get a picture with you
10:46 bg :)
10:48 Amit_Gupta sure jrnasom
10:48 Amit_Gupta aah bg
10:49 bg Amit_Gupta: my wife told me I had to get a picture of you :D
10:49 bg you are famous in our house :)
10:49 Amit_Gupta aah why i am famous in you house
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10:50 Amit_Gupta bg: why i am famous in your house
10:50 bg from IRC - and always saying hi to me - when I used to have the nick of brendan
10:50 Amit_Gupta ;D
10:50 Amit_Gupta aah
10:50 Amit_Gupta sure
10:50 * druthb1 wants to meet Amit_Gupta, too!
10:50 Amit_Gupta i am also druthb1
10:52 jransom Actually Amit, you should have been here the whole time.
10:53 Amit_Gupta hmm i m busy in some projects
10:54 jransom how often will kohacon come to India my friend
10:54 Amit_Gupta so coming on 4th
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11:15 * druthb1 waves, and heads out.
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11:24 sekjal conference done for the day.  going to get some rest
11:25 francharb 0/ les gens!
11:25 francharb 0/ all of you
11:25 francharb !
11:25 francharb see ya
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11:29 magnuse @wunder mumbai
11:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
11:29 magnuse @wunder thane
11:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
11:30 Oak @wunder islamabad
11:30 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 29.0�C (3:00 PM PKT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
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11:32 Amit_Gupta @wunder dehradun
11:33 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 27.0�C (2:30 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa.
11:33 Amit_Gupta @wunder New Delhi
11:33 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 30.0�C (4:30 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
11:34 magnuse @wunder boo
11:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (12:20 PM CET on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
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12:22 oleonard Hi #koha
12:22 jwagner Hi oleonard
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13:43 cait hi all :)
13:44 magnuse guten tag cait
13:44 magnuse how'd it go?
13:44 Oak the presentation
13:44 cait was ok
13:45 cait :)
13:45 cait I am here now:
13:45 cait[…]2157627450627069/
13:45 magnuse yay!
13:45 cait cafe in the new public library
13:45 Oak good
13:45 cait it's very white
13:45 magnuse "Zur Begr��ung gab es Schokolade." yay!
13:46 Oak yes, very white :)
13:55 Oak about running perl Makefile.PL in the git cloned folder. I did that. then chose 'dev', then after answering all the questions, it ended with a message saying, like, make file created I think. then after it when I give 'make' command, it says no such file. make file is not getting created.
13:57 cait hm
13:57 cait magnuse might know :)
13:58 magnuse hm, sorry no, i can't think of anything clever
13:58 Oak :)
13:58 magnuse sure you didn't get an error at the end of running "perl Makefile.PL"?
13:58 oleonard Wow cait, what a beautiful space
13:58 Oak let me run it again.
13:59 cait oleonard: It's been open for around a week now
13:59 cait the library school is right around the corner so I thought I should take a look :)
13:59 magnuse Oak: and the user you are running it as is the one that owns the files and directories
13:59 magnuse ?
14:00 cait going to explore a bit more :)
14:00 cait see you all later!
14:00 Oak :) I was just thinking the same thing as i read my own message.
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14:00 Oak the other pc is booting, will check that first thing
14:01 oleonard cait++ # for her meticulous testing of Bug 7113
14:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7113 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts
14:02 magnuse cait++ in general
14:02 Oak cait++
14:04 Oak magnuse, yes it's owned by my user. one question though, it asks for "Configuration directory:" in the start. should i give it the same as cloned git, or the one it is suggesting?
14:05 Oak it is offering folder /home/user/koha-dev/ as configuration directory.
14:05 magnuse hm, you shouldn't need to tell it anything specific there
14:06 Oak okay
14:06 magnuse just somewhere you have write access
14:06 magnuse is your user called "user"?
14:06 Oak and what if the directory does not exist, and just press enter?
14:06 Oak nope
14:06 Oak it's called silas
14:07 Oak i just said user for easy to read/understand
14:07 magnuse ah, ok
14:07 magnuse it should be ok to just accept the default
14:10 Oak this is what happens:
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14:12 magnuse hm, it actually says "command not found" for make - sounds like you need to install make or something?
14:12 Oak uh oh
14:13 Oak it *is* a vanilla Debian netinst after all. perhaps i need to install 'make'
14:17 Oak i do actually
14:17 Oak i did
14:18 Oak make is running now
14:18 magnuse yay
14:20 Oak doing make install now :)
14:20 liw Oak, you may in fact want to install the build-essential package to get all the "usual" build tools, and the "perl" package, to get the whole perl standard installation
14:20 Oak oh okay, thank you. will do that now ten.
14:20 magnuse liw++
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14:21 magnuse hiya trea1
14:21 trea1 hi magnuse
14:22 Oak liw++
14:23 magnuse see ya later #koha
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14:31 * Oak installing build-essential
14:41 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7113] Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7113>
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14:49 wizzyrea mornin
14:52 cait hi wizzyrea :)
14:52 cait oleonard++
14:53 Oak oleonard++
14:53 cait hi Oak :)
14:53 Oak hello cait :]
14:56 cait wizzyrea: I filled up the list of acq need sign-offs with tet plans ;)
14:57 * cait hides
14:57 cait Oak: were yo uable to finish your install?
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14:58 Oak well, now I am about see what needs to be done about virtual hosts in Debian
14:58 nengard Hi #koha - say hi to the new Koha library here in OK
14:58 trea o/ morning
14:59 trea where are vendors stored in the db?
14:59 nengard hang on
14:59 nengard i have that
14:59 oleonard aqbooksellers
14:59 nengard aqbooksellers
14:59 Oak in my Slackware, it's done in /etc/koha/joha-httpd.conf
15:01 cait hi trea and nengard
15:01 wizzyrea o/ wave
15:01 cait nengard: I miss your live blogging at this year's kohacon
15:01 wizzyrea *nod*
15:01 nengard cait i told the bywater team to do it for me
15:01 nengard apparently they didn't listen!!
15:01 cait tss
15:01 nengard you should email them
15:01 cait you should shorten their cookie supply
15:01 nengard hehe
15:02 nengard the trip to OK was hard enough - i couldn't do india
15:02 nengard back to training!!
15:02 nengard ttyl
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15:02 cait have fun :)
15:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7120] After deleting order from order receive page redirect fails <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7120>
15:14 cait oh nice
15:14 cait oleonard++
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15:18 oleonard Okay, this is a new one for me:
15:18 oleonard why are lost and notforloan not editable?
15:18 wizzyrea because changing them there doesn't trigger the lost sequence in fines
15:19 wizzyrea so you're not supposed to edit them there
15:19 wizzyrea you're supposed to do it from the items in the detail
15:19 wizzyrea at least that's why lost is that way
15:20 oleonard Can't change notforloan from
15:21 wizzyrea mine is editable
15:21 wizzyrea from edit items
15:21 wizzyrea notforloan
15:21 wizzyrea but lost isn't
15:23 oleonard wizzyrea: In master?
15:24 wizzyrea *nod*
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15:26 wizzyrea cait what was that bug about searching if the user that created an aqbasket had been deleted?
15:26 wizzyrea I can't find it, i feel like I'm going ma.
15:26 wizzyrea mad*
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15:40 oleonard Any luck wizzyrea ?
15:40 wizzyrea bah no
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15:43 libsysguy is it normal to have more biblios than items?
15:44 jcamins_away libsysguy: yes, if you have ebooks.
15:44 jcamins_away If you don't have ebooks, no, you probably have a problem.
15:44 libsysguy gotcha
15:44 libsysguy well we do have a lot of ebooks...i just thought out cataloger was creating an item record for them
15:44 * jcamins_away can hear libsysguy thinking "please have ebooks please have ebooks please have ebooks, why doesn't jcamins ever give us good news?"
15:45 libsysguy ^^
15:45 jcamins_away Hmmm... find an ebook record and check? This is probably not a good sign.
15:46 oleonard You could also have records for other electronic resources like web sites.
15:46 libsysguy yeah ill chekc it out...I thought there should be one biblioitem for each item
15:46 libsysguy but there are about 10K less
15:47 jcamins_away Wait, are you asking about entries in the biblio table against entries in the biblioitem table? If those two aren't the same, you're in trouble.
15:47 libsysguy oh poo
15:49 libsysguy grr and pastebot is down for me
15:49 libsysguy :'(
15:49 libsysguy
15:50 jcamins_away Oh boy.
15:51 * libsysguy feels like monday has won
15:52 jcamins_away I'm not even sure how that could happen.
15:53 libsysguy good question...maybe some bad data from out old ils?
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15:59 jcamins_away libsysguy: how did you import the data?
15:59 libsysguy jcamins_away: what if there are 2 of every biblio
15:59 libsysguy with the import tool (script version
16:00 libsysguy if you multiply the number of biblioitems by 2 you get 6000-ish more than the biblios
16:00 libsysguy which would make since if you had multiple volumes of items
16:01 libsysguy is there anyway to verify that?
16:01 wizzyrea libsysguy: are you having a problem
16:01 wizzyrea ?
16:02 libsysguy apparently
16:02 libsysguy
16:02 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, something went very wrong. The import tool should not create biblios without biblioitems.
16:02 libsysguy i think maybe someting poped up when we were trying to use the matching records
16:03 libsysguy it has been a long time
16:03 * libsysguy is old and forgetful
16:03 libsysguy hehe
16:03 wizzyrea omg, if you are old and forgetful than I am ancient and demented.
16:03 wizzyrea hm. that may be true anyway >.>
16:03 libsysguy ^^
16:03 libsysguy :p
16:04 wizzyrea well, not the ancient part :)
16:07 reiveune bye
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16:08 jcamins_away wizzyrea: didn't you have a problem with matching and extra records in the biblio table?
16:08 wizzyrea well, there was the bug where imports weren't matching because the rule wasn't being applied properly because it had been edited
16:08 wizzyrea but I don't think that is necessarily relevant here
16:09 wizzyrea that wasn't my bug directly, just one I sort of poked at
16:10 jcamins_away No, way back.
16:10 wizzyrea oh my, hm
16:11 libsysguy c'mon wizzyrea where are those acient memories :p
16:11 libsysguy jk jk
16:11 * wizzyrea has every email sent since the dawn of NExpress on Koha
16:11 wizzyrea it's in my computer, pup.
16:11 libsysguy jesus I feel sorry for your mail server
16:12 wizzyrea send your condolences to googlez.
16:14 wizzyrea man idk, I am not finding anything like that
16:16 jcamins_away Hm.
16:16 jcamins_away I could've sworn you reported to me that Sharon was having the wrong records showing up when cataloging, because of extra stuff in your biblio table.
16:16 jcamins_away libsysguy: ask sekjal or druthb if they remember something like that.
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16:21 juan_sieira hi henri
16:25 wizzyrea oleonard: I guess others are seeing your prob with not-for-loan, but it's totally working in my test install
16:28 wizzyrea
16:32 libsysguy yo trea you around
16:32 trea i'm here
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16:47 wizzyrea oleonard: I just discovered something interesting
16:47 wizzyrea re: your not for loan thinger
16:47 oleonard Oh, not an interesting mushroom or fungus?
16:47 wizzyrea keke no
16:48 wizzyrea if you remove or hide fields from the items framework
16:48 wizzyrea it messes up which field gets the error span
16:48 oleonard Ah, that would be it.
16:49 oleonard So someone was making assumptions about field numbers
16:49 wizzyrea yea, looks that way
16:52 oleonard Good detective work wizzyrea
16:52 bg hey oleonard and wizzyrea
16:52 wizzyrea hey np, that bit was one of NEKLS things, iirc.
16:52 wizzyrea just keeping on top of it.
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16:56 wizzyrea hi bg :)
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17:00 jcamins_away Good morning (?) India!
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17:00 wizzyrea afternoon :)
17:00 wizzyrea it was morning 4am-ish my time
17:00 jcamins_away Oh.
17:00 jcamins_away Good afternoon, India!
17:01 paul_p jcamins_away, not, really morning ! 10 PM here ;-)
17:01 wizzyrea don't ask me how I know that
17:01 Smita Hi this is Smita from Tauranga <nz a koha newbe
17:01 wizzyrea evening then lol
17:01 wizzyrea hi smita
17:01 paul_p hi smita
17:01 Smita I need help
17:01 wizzyrea you're up early :)
17:01 sekjal welcome, Smita
17:01 paul_p hi sekjal : you had a good dinner ? ;-)
17:01 wizzyrea ask anytime :)
17:01 Smita Could not sleep trying to install koha
17:01 wizzyrea oo, up late then.
17:02 Smita No early , it is 5 in the morning here
17:02 paul_p sekjal, do you know there is another similarity between Bywater & BibLibre : brendan & me birthday = january 9th ;-)
17:02 wizzyrea (to me it's early if you got up, late if you stayed up)
17:02 jcamins_away sekjal: libsysguy has more records in his biblio table than in his biblioitems table. I seem to recall encountering that issue while I was at ByWater. Do you remember what caused it, and how to fix it?
17:02 sekjal paul_p:  wow, I did not know!
17:03 wizzyrea (it's confusing, either way, it's wee hours)
17:03 wizzyrea :D
17:03 paul_p sekjal, we just discovered that during dinner.
17:03 sekjal jcamins_away: if the biblioitems gets truncated, but the biblioitems table does not, that can happen
17:04 Smita I am stuck trying to create zebra search index, is there a easier way
17:04 jcamins_away sekjal: Thanks.
17:04 wizzyrea ah what kind of error
17:04 sekjal because the cascade is 'delete', which doesn't reset the numbers, while truncate does
17:04 jcamins_away libsysguy: did you truncate your biblioitems table at some point?
17:04 Smita no such command found, though i csn see the rebuild
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17:05 wizzyrea oh, are you running perl -v -b -r
17:05 jcamins_away Smita: you need to include the path: ./ (or the appropriate path)
17:05 Smita yes
17:06 wizzyrea what's the exact error? can you copy/paster?
17:06 wizzyrea paste*
17:07 sekjal Smita:  what directory are you in?  and what command are you typing (exactly)?
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17:07 bg paster - noice wizzyrea
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17:08 Smita I have installed koha 3.4, but these last few steps to run the indexing are still failing. It continues to say command not found. Also can you please send me examples of cronjobs to set up please?
17:09 sekjal Smita:  read misc/cronjobs/crontab.example for an example of what to set up in cron
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17:13 Smita Yes, but where do i add thses cronjob, how do i activate them
17:15 Smita new records that I am adding to the database are not being picked up as a result
17:15 jcamins_away Smita:[…]tion-to-cron-jobs
17:16 jcamins_away That may help you understand how to use cron.
17:16 Smita 7.2 Fast Index:  $ misc/migration-tools/ -b -w - this command is failing to run
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17:17 jcamins_away Please paste the output you're getting to
17:17 jcamins_away That way we can see why.
17:18 wizzyrea pastebot was down earlier :/
17:18 jcamins_away wizzyrea: not now.
17:18 wizzyrea well cool
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17:22 gmcharlt general note for anybody using Syndetics for cover images - the Bowker/Syndetics data center apparently suffered a power outage due to snow in New Jersey; expected to be back online later today
17:22 wizzyrea ooo, any effects to libraryanywhere?
17:22 jcamins_away Bowker/Syndetics and the entire rest of the state!
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17:23 Oak interesting read:[…]es_a_multiver.php
17:23 * sekjal is lucky to be in Mumbai, for more than a few reasons!
17:24 gmcharlt wizzyrea: appears that libraryanywhere is not affected
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17:24 wizzyrea cool, ty :)
17:24 jwagner The traffic on the Unicorn listserv says Books in Print, Bowkerlink, Syndetic Solutions, Library Thing, RCL, BBAS, and some data services
17:24 slef sekjal?
17:24 wahanui well, sekjal is someone's favorite propeller-head.
17:25 * gmcharlt blinks
17:25 gmcharlt apparently B&T ContentCafe is a valid source of cover images for Library Anywhere
17:25 sekjal hi, slef!
17:26 smita The rest of the koha install is etraight forward, why are last steps of setting up indexes so hard
17:26 jcamins_away smita: we can't tell you unless you give us more details.
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17:30 sekjal Smita:  what do you see if you type "ls"?
17:30 wizzyrea or "pwd"
17:33 smita As I said, tried to follow the steps  - Should I build the zebra indexer manually using this command $ sudo -u <koha> misc/migration_tools/ -z -b -a
17:33 sekjal Smita:  what directory are you currently in?
17:34 smita libclone
17:39 sekjal and that's the directly you cloned from git? (git clone git:// libclone)
17:39 sekjal s/directly/directory/
17:40 smita yes please
17:45 sekjal remove "sudo -u <koha>", and replace with "perl"
17:45 sekjal so:
17:46 sekjal perl misc/migration_tools/ -z -b -x
17:46 sekjal for biblios
17:46 sekjal and
17:46 sekjal perl misc/migration_tools/ -z -a
17:46 sekjal for authorities
17:46 sekjal (on the crontab)
17:46 sekjal for full reindex, replace "-z" with "-r"
17:50 smita great, i will try that. Now how do I set up a cronjob please
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18:09 maximep hard to explain how to install and configure koha to someone with 0 unix experience :S
18:10 maximep oh, u need to say something to receive messages from huginn -_-
18:13 sekjal Smita:  from command line:  crontab -e
18:14 sekjal then type in your commands, like you can see in misc/cronjobs/crontab.example
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18:20 maximep he left :/
18:25 sekjal maximep:  ah.. helps if I read the notices, not just the messages ;)
18:32 * jcamins_away predicts the library technology twitterverse gets very active.
18:32 rangi the rdf rda thing?
18:33 jcamins_away Yup.
18:37 oleonard Hi rangi
18:45 trea hey rangi
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18:45 * sekjal is ready to pass out now.
18:45 sekjal goodnight, all
18:45 magnuse g'night sekjal
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18:50 magnuse @wunder mumbai
18:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (11:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
18:51 magnuse not quite a cool night in thane, then...
18:51 oleonard "Smoke?"
18:51 magnuse sounds scary, but i think it often says that
18:51 jcamins_away @wunder kabul, afghanistan
18:51 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Kabul, Afghanistan is 12.0�C (10:20 PM AFT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
18:51 magnuse ooh, nice temp!
18:52 wizzyrea @wunder 669=047
18:52 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Barrio Hoconuco Alto, San German, Puerto Rico is 23.0�C (2:50 PM AST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady).
18:52 wizzyrea uh, oh kay
18:52 wizzyrea @wunder 66047
18:52 jcamins_away Partly cloudy? Huh. In 2007 around this time, I probably would have described the weather as "smoke," too.
18:52 magnuse huh?
18:52 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 20.4�C (1:50 PM CDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling).
18:52 wizzyrea hm warmer than it feels
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18:52 druthb @wunder mumbai
18:52 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (11:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
18:53 druthb "Conditions: Smoke" is a constant.
18:53 magnuse wow 24, i thought the us was having a bout of winter - guess it's a big coutry...
18:53 magnuse good evening druthb and cait
18:53 wizzyrea *nod* it's cold on the east coast.
18:53 druthb hi, cait!
18:53 wizzyrea @wunder Hartford, CT
18:53 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Hartford CT US, Newington, Connecticut is 12.8�C (2:17 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa.
18:53 wizzyrea but not that cold.
18:54 jcamins_away @wunder 11375
18:54 magnuse nope
18:54 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 11.7�C (2:51 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026.6 hPa (Falling).
18:54 wizzyrea @wunder Boston, MA
18:54 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Winthrop Beach, Winthrop, Massachusetts is 10.3�C (2:52 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028.3 hPa (Steady).
18:54 wizzyrea jcamins_away: did you get snow?
18:55 magnuse @wunder wellington
18:55 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
18:55 magnuse @wunder wellington, nz
18:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
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19:00 Danielle o/
19:00 jcamins_away wizzyrea: very little. My family was without power for most of the weekend, though, and reported 5-7 inches.
19:01 wizzyrea oof
19:02 * Danielle has friends in northern CT still without power.
19:08 magnuse ouch
19:13 melia is now known as melia_lunch
19:14 * cait waves
19:18 trea hi ciat
19:18 trea cait*
19:18 cait yes?
19:19 druthb cait?
19:19 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you!
19:19 druthb hee hee.
19:19 druthb talljoy?
19:19 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA
19:19 druthb druthb?
19:19 wahanui you are a travelin' woman.
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19:21 druthb1 @quote get 102
19:21 huginn druthb1: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
19:21 druthb1 druthb?
19:21 wahanui Don't ask.
19:21 druthb1 heh
19:21 druthb1 Brooke?
19:21 wahanui I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM.
19:21 druthb1 hehehe
19:24 jcamins_away druthb1?
19:25 wizzyrea druthb
19:25 wizzyrea druthb?
19:25 wahanui Don't ask.
19:25 wizzyrea pft
19:26 druthb1 hee hee
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19:28 rangi wizzyrea?
19:28 wahanui I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts
19:28 wizzyrea keke
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19:42 rangi just had a chat with karen coyle
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19:44 rangi she was much excited with the export/import of frameworls
19:44 wizzyrea it's pretty sweeet
19:45 wizzyrea though I think we need some instructions/guidelines about how to go about editing your CSV so it's re-importable, I've never gotten that thing to work
19:45 wizzyrea but a native export/import with no modifications works fine
19:45 wizzyrea (I assumed I was doing it wrong)
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19:57 rangi yep
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19:58 cait wizzyrea: still have ot played with it.. hm I should
19:58 libsysguy rangi you still around?
19:59 rangi semi
19:59 rangi im on a stand at conference
19:59 rangi so i come and go
20:00 libsysguy I encountered a unique situation where my biblios table has (roughly) double the tuples of my biblioitems table...I think there are dupes in the biblio table...any way you know to verify?
20:05 rhcl wizzyrea: u planning on attending KohaCon12
20:05 rhcl ?
20:05 libsysguy where is KohaCon12?
20:05 wizzyrea it's improbable, but possible
20:05 libsysguy sorry to butt in
20:06 wizzyrea Edinburgh Scotland
20:06 libsysguy oh cool
20:06 ron416 hi all
20:06 * libsysguy wants to go :)
20:07 rangi hmm select count(distinct(title)) from biblio;
20:07 rangi try that
20:07 rhcl I'm looking for places to go fishing
20:07 libsysguy The Swede wants to go too :p
20:07 libsysguy rangi I tried that one...i got 350K records
20:07 libsysguy so a little off
20:07 libsysguy i thought about doing a diff of what is not in biblioitems
20:07 rangi yep
20:08 ron416 when i enter 'sudo -u myusername zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:08 ron416 it says 'I/O warning: failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml"
20:09 ron416 someone pliz help me
20:09 cait libsysguy: meeting in scotland then:)
20:09 libsysguy you probaby don't have the conf file exported
20:09 rangi select count(*) from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from biblioitems)
20:09 ron416 can you please tell me how to do that?
20:10 ron416 i am a first timer
20:10 libsysguy $ export KOHA_CONF=/your/install/dir/etc/koha-conf.xml
20:10 libsysguy did you do a prod install or dev?
20:10 ron416 i did standard
20:11 libsysguy then I think it is in /etc/koha/
20:11 wahanui Hmm.  No matches for that, libsysguy.
20:11 libsysguy but its been awhile since i've done a standard install
20:11 ron416 i chose standard since i am a first timer
20:12 libsysguy I did too
20:12 libsysguy as a first time install
20:12 ron416 yeah...
20:12 ron416 i have the installation manual with me
20:12 ron416 i followed each and every step
20:12 ron416 even the export bit
20:12 libsysguy oh?
20:12 libsysguy hmm
20:12 ron416 but i dont know what the problem is
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20:13 libsysguy what exactly did you type for the export?
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20:13 cait oh
20:13 cait closed wrong window
20:13 cait wanted to ask which installation manual and which verison of koha and which os :)
20:13 ron416 export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:13 libsysguy eek cait
20:13 ron416 ver 3.4
20:13 cait eek?
20:13 * cait looks around
20:14 libsysguy like scared that you went away cait :)
20:14 cait ron416: are you doing a test install? you might want to use 3.6 then :)
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20:15 libsysguy maybe it is a permissions thing
20:15 libsysguy have you looked at who owns that dir
20:15 wizzyrea or you exported as the wrong user
20:16 ron416 i mean when i enter that command, nothing happens. it just goes to the next line
20:16 trea ron416 what do you get when you type echo $KOHA_CONF
20:17 ron416 let me check now
20:17 libsysguy brb sorry ron416
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20:18 ron416 it says /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
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20:18 magnuse ron416: if "sudo -u myusername zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" results in "I/O warning: failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" it sounds like /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml doesn't exist
20:18 ron416 yeah thats what i am thinking
20:19 ron416 but when i enter the export command
20:19 ron416 it doesnt do anything
20:19 cait it never gives feedback
20:19 cait the export command
20:19 magnuse it's not supposed to
20:19 cait it just... works or not
20:19 ron416 it just goes to the next line
20:19 magnuse try "ls /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml"
20:19 ron416 let me try
20:21 ron416 it says cannot access /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml: No such file or directory
20:21 magnuse that's a problem...
20:22 magnuse sorry gotta run, see y'all tomorrow!
20:22 ron416 libsysguy...what do you think
20:24 rachel hi pepl. SQL ? - will all biblios w/o items be deleted with: DELETE biblio.biblionumber, biblio.title FROM biblio LEFT JOIN items on biblio.biblionumber = items.biblionumber WHERE items.itemnumber is NULL
20:26 cait ron416: you have to find the file :)
20:26 libsysguy_afk is now known as libsysguy
20:26 cait ron416: and use the right path for the export
20:26 * libsysguy is about to delete half of his biblios table *crosses fingers*
20:27 wizzyrea you took a backup right
20:27 libsysguy yes of course :)
20:27 libsysguy do I have the go ahead wizzyrea
20:27 ron416 can somebody tell me how to find that file
20:28 wizzyrea ron416: sudo updatedb
20:28 wizzyrea <wait>
20:28 cait I am not sure where standard puts it
20:28 wizzyrea locate koha-conf.xml
20:28 libsysguy <holding>
20:28 wizzyrea lol, not you - you're grown, if you think it's right then you should do it :P
20:28 wizzyrea as long as you have a way out
20:29 libsysguy well there is a back door to run from the librarians :p
20:29 wizzyrea lol, ok
20:29 wizzyrea probably best to wait until off hours
20:29 wizzyrea :P
20:30 trea ron416 what do you get when you run locate koha-conf.xml
20:30 libsysguy haha well its too late 234100 records are now gone
20:30 * wizzyrea can't help it... holds her breath
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20:31 * libsysguy waiting for calls
20:32 * chris_n thinks he hears the mob with pitch forks coming
20:32 cait ok, time to play sing star with one of my best friends
20:32 cait will be back :)
20:32 Danielle Enjoy
20:33 cait i will :)
20:33 ron416 trea when i typed that 3 lines were displayed
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20:33 wizzyrea they were?
20:34 wizzyrea rather, ron416: what were they
20:35 ron416 1st.../etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml
20:36 ron416 2nd.../home/roneel/koha/blib​/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml
20:36 ron416 3rd.../home/roneel/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml
20:36 ron416 those were the 3
20:36 wizzyrea ok, that's why your export didn't work
20:37 wizzyrea you just did /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml
20:37 ron416 what should i do
20:37 ron416 i am so confused
20:37 wizzyrea you needed to have the path for /etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml
20:37 wizzyrea you were telling the system to look in the wrong place for the config file
20:38 wizzyrea export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml
20:39 ron416 right i entered that
20:39 ron416 should i also enter export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib
20:40 wizzyrea dunno, does /usr/share/koha exist?
20:40 wizzyrea ls /usr/share/koha
20:41 ron416 cannot access etc
20:41 ron416 which means it doesnt exist
20:41 wizzyrea now your'e gettin it :)
20:42 wizzyrea i'm just guessing, but ls /usr/share/koha123
20:42 wizzyrea does that exist?
20:42 ron416 let me check
20:42 ron416 no
20:42 ron416 what to do now
20:44 wizzyrea well you need to find where your koha/lib directory is
20:44 wizzyrea what OS are you running?
20:44 wizzyrea (shouldn't matter, in theory)
20:44 ron416 debian
20:45 wizzyrea ls /usr/share
20:45 wizzyrea there will be lots of stuff, but is there a koha?
20:45 wizzyrea or anything koha-like
20:46 ron416 after git-core i dont see anything in K
20:49 wizzyrea :/ sounds like somtihng non-standard happened
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20:49 ron416 i have checked thoroughly but the word koha doesnt exist anywhere
20:49 ron416 sorry i made a mistake
20:50 ron416 A - Z are all mentioned
20:50 ron416 not uptill git-core as i said earlier on
20:50 ron416 but koha isnt mentioned anywhere
20:50 wizzyrea all good, probably you want to go back to whre you did your perl makefile.PL, make test, make install
20:51 wizzyrea you won't have to do every step, but doing that bit and accepting the defaults may bring you better results along the way
20:51 ron416 but now when i enter perl Makefile.Pl
20:52 ron416 it says Can't open perl script "": No such file or directory
20:52 wizzyrea right, because you're not in the directory where that file is located
20:52 ron416 omg
20:52 ron416 now how will i find that directory
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21:30 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7122] Adding divs to to aid OPAC css styling <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7122>
21:31 magnuse ron416 might have had more luck with perl Makefile.PL, not perl Makefile.Pl...
21:32 * magnuse is really gone now...
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21:42 libsysguy poor ron416
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22:45 cait hi #koha :)
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