Time Nick Message 22:45 cait hi #koha :) 21:42 libsysguy poor ron416 21:32 * magnuse is really gone now... 21:31 magnuse ron416 might have had more luck with perl Makefile.PL, not perl Makefile.Pl... 21:30 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7122] Adding divs to opac-messaging.tt to aid OPAC css styling <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7122> 20:52 ron416 now how will i find that directory 20:52 ron416 omg 20:52 wizzyrea right, because you're not in the directory where that file is located 20:52 ron416 it says Can't open perl script "Makefile.pl": No such file or directory 20:51 ron416 but now when i enter perl Makefile.Pl 20:51 wizzyrea you won't have to do every step, but doing that bit and accepting the defaults may bring you better results along the way 20:50 wizzyrea all good, probably you want to go back to whre you did your perl makefile.PL, make test, make install 20:50 ron416 but koha isnt mentioned anywhere 20:50 ron416 not uptill git-core as i said earlier on 20:50 ron416 A - Z are all mentioned 20:49 ron416 sorry i made a mistake 20:49 ron416 i have checked thoroughly but the word koha doesnt exist anywhere 20:49 wizzyrea :/ sounds like somtihng non-standard happened 20:46 ron416 after git-core i dont see anything in K 20:45 wizzyrea or anything koha-like 20:45 wizzyrea there will be lots of stuff, but is there a koha? 20:45 wizzyrea ls /usr/share 20:44 ron416 debian 20:44 wizzyrea (shouldn't matter, in theory) 20:44 wizzyrea what OS are you running? 20:44 wizzyrea well you need to find where your koha/lib directory is 20:42 ron416 what to do now 20:42 ron416 no 20:42 ron416 let me check 20:42 wizzyrea does that exist? 20:42 wizzyrea i'm just guessing, but ls /usr/share/koha123 20:41 wizzyrea now your'e gettin it :) 20:41 ron416 which means it doesnt exist 20:41 ron416 cannot access etc 20:40 wizzyrea ls /usr/share/koha 20:40 wizzyrea dunno, does /usr/share/koha exist? 20:39 ron416 should i also enter export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib 20:39 ron416 right i entered that 20:38 wizzyrea export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml 20:37 wizzyrea you were telling the system to look in the wrong place for the config file 20:37 wizzyrea you needed to have the path for /etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml 20:37 ron416 i am so confused 20:37 ron416 what should i do 20:37 wizzyrea you just did /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:36 wizzyrea ok, that's why your export didn't work 20:36 ron416 those were the 3 20:36 ron416 3rd.../home/roneel/koha/etc/koha-conf.xml 20:36 ron416 2nd.../home/roneel/koha/blib/KOHA_CONF_DIR/koha-conf.xml 20:35 ron416 1st.../etc/koha123/koha-conf.xml 20:34 wizzyrea rather, ron416: what were they 20:33 wizzyrea they were? 20:33 ron416 trea when i typed that 3 lines were displayed 20:33 cait i will :) 20:32 Danielle Enjoy 20:32 cait will be back :) 20:32 cait ok, time to play sing star with one of my best friends 20:32 * chris_n thinks he hears the mob with pitch forks coming 20:31 * libsysguy waiting for calls 20:30 * wizzyrea can't help it... holds her breath 20:30 libsysguy haha well its too late 234100 records are now gone 20:30 trea ron416 what do you get when you run locate koha-conf.xml 20:29 wizzyrea :P 20:29 wizzyrea probably best to wait until off hours 20:29 wizzyrea lol, ok 20:29 libsysguy well there is a back door to run from the librarians :p 20:28 wizzyrea as long as you have a way out 20:28 wizzyrea lol, not you - you're grown, if you think it's right then you should do it :P 20:28 libsysguy <holding> 20:28 wizzyrea locate koha-conf.xml 20:28 cait I am not sure where standard puts it 20:28 wizzyrea <wait> 20:28 wizzyrea ron416: sudo updatedb 20:27 ron416 can somebody tell me how to find that file 20:27 libsysguy do I have the go ahead wizzyrea 20:27 libsysguy yes of course :) 20:27 wizzyrea you took a backup right 20:26 * libsysguy is about to delete half of his biblios table *crosses fingers* 20:26 cait ron416: and use the right path for the export 20:26 cait ron416: you have to find the file :) 20:24 rachel hi pepl. SQL ? - will all biblios w/o items be deleted with: DELETE biblio.biblionumber, biblio.title FROM biblio LEFT JOIN items on biblio.biblionumber = items.biblionumber WHERE items.itemnumber is NULL 20:22 ron416 libsysguy...what do you think 20:22 magnuse sorry gotta run, see y'all tomorrow! 20:21 magnuse that's a problem... 20:21 ron416 it says cannot access /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml: No such file or directory 20:19 ron416 let me try 20:19 magnuse try "ls /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" 20:19 ron416 it just goes to the next line 20:19 cait it just... works or not 20:19 magnuse it's not supposed to 20:19 cait the export command 20:19 cait it never gives feedback 20:19 ron416 it doesnt do anything 20:19 ron416 but when i enter the export command 20:18 ron416 yeah thats what i am thinking 20:18 magnuse ron416: if "sudo -u myusername zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" results in "I/O warning: failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" it sounds like /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml doesn't exist 20:18 ron416 it says /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:17 libsysguy brb sorry ron416 20:17 ron416 let me check now 20:16 trea ron416 what do you get when you type echo $KOHA_CONF 20:16 ron416 i mean when i enter that command, nothing happens. it just goes to the next line 20:15 wizzyrea or you exported as the wrong user 20:15 libsysguy have you looked at who owns that dir 20:15 libsysguy maybe it is a permissions thing 20:14 cait ron416: are you doing a test install? you might want to use 3.6 then :) 20:14 libsysguy like scared that you went away cait :) 20:13 * cait looks around 20:13 cait eek? 20:13 ron416 ver 3.4 20:13 libsysguy eek cait 20:13 ron416 export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:13 cait wanted to ask which installation manual and which verison of koha and which os :) 20:13 cait closed wrong window 20:13 cait oh 20:13 libsysguy what exactly did you type for the export? 20:12 ron416 but i dont know what the problem is 20:12 libsysguy hmm 20:12 libsysguy oh? 20:12 ron416 even the export bit 20:12 ron416 i followed each and every step 20:12 ron416 i have the installation manual with me 20:12 ron416 yeah... 20:12 libsysguy as a first time install 20:12 libsysguy I did too 20:11 ron416 i chose standard since i am a first timer 20:11 libsysguy but its been awhile since i've done a standard install 20:11 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, libsysguy. 20:11 libsysguy then I think it is in /etc/koha/ 20:10 ron416 i did standard 20:10 libsysguy did you do a prod install or dev? 20:10 libsysguy $ export KOHA_CONF=/your/install/dir/etc/koha-conf.xml 20:10 ron416 i am a first timer 20:09 ron416 can you please tell me how to do that? 20:09 rangi select count(*) from biblio where biblionumber not in (select biblionumber from biblioitems) 20:09 libsysguy you probaby don't have the conf file exported 20:09 cait libsysguy: meeting in scotland then:) 20:09 ron416 someone pliz help me 20:08 ron416 it says 'I/O warning: failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" 20:08 ron416 when i enter 'sudo -u myusername zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 20:07 rangi yep 20:07 libsysguy i thought about doing a diff of what is not in biblioitems 20:07 libsysguy so a little off 20:07 libsysguy rangi I tried that one...i got 350K records 20:07 libsysguy The Swede wants to go too :p 20:07 rhcl I'm looking for places to go fishing 20:07 rangi try that 20:07 rangi hmm select count(distinct(title)) from biblio; 20:06 * libsysguy wants to go :) 20:06 ron416 hi all 20:06 libsysguy oh cool 20:06 wizzyrea Edinburgh Scotland 20:05 libsysguy sorry to butt in 20:05 wizzyrea it's improbable, but possible 20:05 libsysguy where is KohaCon12? 20:05 rhcl ? 20:05 rhcl wizzyrea: u planning on attending KohaCon12 20:00 libsysguy I encountered a unique situation where my biblios table has (roughly) double the tuples of my biblioitems table...I think there are dupes in the biblio table...any way you know to verify? 19:59 rangi so i come and go 19:59 rangi im on a stand at conference 19:59 rangi semi 19:58 libsysguy rangi you still around? 19:58 cait wizzyrea: still have ot played with it.. hm I should 19:57 rangi yep 19:45 wizzyrea (I assumed I was doing it wrong) 19:45 wizzyrea but a native export/import with no modifications works fine 19:45 wizzyrea though I think we need some instructions/guidelines about how to go about editing your CSV so it's re-importable, I've never gotten that thing to work 19:44 wizzyrea it's pretty sweeet 19:44 rangi she was much excited with the export/import of frameworls 19:42 rangi just had a chat with karen coyle 19:28 wizzyrea keke 19:28 wahanui I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts 19:28 rangi wizzyrea? 19:26 druthb1 hee hee 19:25 wizzyrea pft 19:25 wahanui Don't ask. 19:25 wizzyrea druthb? 19:25 wizzyrea druthb 19:24 jcamins_away druthb1? 19:21 druthb1 hehehe 19:21 wahanui I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. 19:21 druthb1 Brooke? 19:21 druthb1 heh 19:21 wahanui Don't ask. 19:21 druthb1 druthb? 19:21 huginn druthb1: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) 19:21 druthb1 @quote get 102 19:19 wahanui you are a travelin' woman. 19:19 druthb druthb? 19:19 wahanui I CRUNCH DATA 19:19 druthb talljoy? 19:19 druthb hee hee. 19:19 wahanui That's Ms. Cait to you! 19:19 druthb cait? 19:18 cait yes? 19:18 trea cait* 19:18 trea hi ciat 19:14 * cait waves 19:08 magnuse ouch 19:02 * Danielle has friends in northern CT still without power. 19:01 wizzyrea oof 19:00 jcamins_away wizzyrea: very little. My family was without power for most of the weekend, though, and reported 5-7 inches. 19:00 Danielle o/ 18:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 18:55 magnuse @wunder wellington, nz 18:55 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 18:55 magnuse @wunder wellington 18:54 wizzyrea jcamins_away: did you get snow? 18:54 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Winthrop Beach, Winthrop, Massachusetts is 10.3�C (2:52 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028.3 hPa (Steady). 18:54 wizzyrea @wunder Boston, MA 18:54 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 11.7�C (2:51 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026.6 hPa (Falling). 18:54 magnuse nope 18:54 jcamins_away @wunder 11375 18:53 wizzyrea but not that cold. 18:53 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Hartford CT US, Newington, Connecticut is 12.8�C (2:17 PM EDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa. 18:53 wizzyrea @wunder Hartford, CT 18:53 druthb hi, cait! 18:53 wizzyrea *nod* it's cold on the east coast. 18:53 magnuse good evening druthb and cait 18:53 magnuse wow 24, i thought the us was having a bout of winter - guess it's a big coutry... 18:53 druthb "Conditions: Smoke" is a constant. 18:52 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (11:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 18:52 druthb @wunder mumbai 18:52 wizzyrea hm warmer than it feels 18:52 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 20.4�C (1:50 PM CDT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). 18:52 magnuse huh? 18:52 jcamins_away Partly cloudy? Huh. In 2007 around this time, I probably would have described the weather as "smoke," too. 18:52 wizzyrea @wunder 66047 18:52 wizzyrea uh, oh kay 18:52 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Barrio Hoconuco Alto, San German, Puerto Rico is 23.0�C (2:50 PM AST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). 18:52 wizzyrea @wunder 669=047 18:51 magnuse ooh, nice temp! 18:51 huginn jcamins_away: The current temperature in Kabul, Afghanistan is 12.0�C (10:20 PM AFT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 18:51 jcamins_away @wunder kabul, afghanistan 18:51 magnuse sounds scary, but i think it often says that 18:51 oleonard "Smoke?" 18:51 magnuse not quite a cool night in thane, then... 18:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (11:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 18:50 magnuse @wunder mumbai 18:45 magnuse g'night sekjal 18:45 sekjal goodnight, all 18:45 * sekjal is ready to pass out now. 18:45 trea hey rangi 18:37 oleonard Hi rangi 18:33 jcamins_away Yup. 18:32 rangi the rdf rda thing? 18:32 * jcamins_away predicts the library technology twitterverse gets very active. 18:25 sekjal maximep: ah.. helps if I read the notices, not just the messages ;) 18:20 maximep he left :/ 18:14 sekjal then type in your commands, like you can see in misc/cronjobs/crontab.example 18:13 sekjal Smita: from command line: crontab -e 18:10 maximep oh, u need to say something to receive messages from huginn -_- 18:09 maximep hard to explain how to install and configure koha to someone with 0 unix experience :S 17:50 smita great, i will try that. Now how do I set up a cronjob please 17:46 sekjal for full reindex, replace "-z" with "-r" 17:46 sekjal (on the crontab) 17:46 sekjal for authorities 17:46 sekjal perl misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -a 17:46 sekjal and 17:46 sekjal for biblios 17:46 sekjal perl misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -x 17:45 sekjal so: 17:45 sekjal remove "sudo -u <koha>", and replace with "perl" 17:40 smita yes please 17:39 sekjal s/directly/directory/ 17:39 sekjal and that's the directly you cloned from git? (git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git libclone) 17:34 smita libclone 17:33 sekjal Smita: what directory are you currently in? 17:33 smita As I said, tried to follow the steps - Should I build the zebra indexer manually using this command $ sudo -u <koha> misc/migration_tools/rebuld_zebra.pl -z -b -a 17:30 wizzyrea or "pwd" 17:30 sekjal Smita: what do you see if you type "ls"? 17:26 jcamins_away smita: we can't tell you unless you give us more details. 17:26 smita The rest of the koha install is etraight forward, why are last steps of setting up indexes so hard 17:25 sekjal hi, slef! 17:25 gmcharlt apparently B&T ContentCafe is a valid source of cover images for Library Anywhere 17:25 * gmcharlt blinks 17:24 wahanui well, sekjal is someone's favorite propeller-head. 17:24 slef sekjal? 17:24 jwagner The traffic on the Unicorn listserv says Books in Print, Bowkerlink, Syndetic Solutions, Library Thing, RCL, BBAS, and some data services 17:24 wizzyrea cool, ty :) 17:24 gmcharlt wizzyrea: appears that libraryanywhere is not affected 17:23 * sekjal is lucky to be in Mumbai, for more than a few reasons! 17:23 Oak interesting read: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/10/why_we_think_theres_a_multiver.php 17:22 jcamins_away Bowker/Syndetics and the entire rest of the state! 17:22 wizzyrea ooo, any effects to libraryanywhere? 17:22 gmcharlt general note for anybody using Syndetics for cover images - the Bowker/Syndetics data center apparently suffered a power outage due to snow in New Jersey; expected to be back online later today 17:18 wizzyrea well cool 17:18 jcamins_away wizzyrea: not now. 17:18 wizzyrea pastebot was down earlier :/ 17:17 jcamins_away That way we can see why. 17:17 jcamins_away Please paste the output you're getting to paste.koha-community.org 17:16 Smita 7.2 Fast Index: $ misc/migration-tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -w - this command is failing to run 17:16 jcamins_away That may help you understand how to use cron. 17:15 jcamins_away Smita: http://www.howtoforge.com/a-short-introduction-to-cron-jobs 17:15 Smita new records that I am adding to the database are not being picked up as a result 17:13 Smita Yes, but where do i add thses cronjob, how do i activate them 17:09 sekjal Smita: read misc/cronjobs/crontab.example for an example of what to set up in cron 17:08 Smita I have installed koha 3.4, but these last few steps to run the indexing are still failing. It continues to say command not found. Also can you please send me examples of cronjobs to set up please? 17:07 bg paster - noice wizzyrea 17:07 sekjal Smita: what directory are you in? and what command are you typing (exactly)? 17:06 wizzyrea paste* 17:06 wizzyrea what's the exact error? can you copy/paster? 17:05 Smita yes 17:05 jcamins_away Smita: you need to include the path: ./rebuild_zebra.pl (or the appropriate path) 17:05 wizzyrea oh, are you running perl rebuild_zebra.pl -v -b -r 17:04 Smita no such command found, though i csn see the rebuild zebra.pl 17:04 jcamins_away libsysguy: did you truncate your biblioitems table at some point? 17:04 sekjal because the cascade is 'delete', which doesn't reset the numbers, while truncate does 17:04 wizzyrea ah what kind of error 17:04 jcamins_away sekjal: Thanks. 17:04 Smita I am stuck trying to create zebra search index, is there a easier way 17:03 sekjal jcamins_away: if the biblioitems gets truncated, but the biblioitems table does not, that can happen 17:03 paul_p sekjal, we just discovered that during dinner. 17:03 wizzyrea :D 17:03 wizzyrea (it's confusing, either way, it's wee hours) 17:02 sekjal paul_p: wow, I did not know! 17:02 jcamins_away sekjal: libsysguy has more records in his biblio table than in his biblioitems table. I seem to recall encountering that issue while I was at ByWater. Do you remember what caused it, and how to fix it? 17:02 wizzyrea (to me it's early if you got up, late if you stayed up) 17:02 paul_p sekjal, do you know there is another similarity between Bywater & BibLibre : brendan & me birthday = january 9th ;-) 17:02 Smita No early , it is 5 in the morning here 17:01 wizzyrea oo, up late then. 17:01 Smita Could not sleep trying to install koha 17:01 wizzyrea ask anytime :) 17:01 paul_p hi sekjal : you had a good dinner ? ;-) 17:01 sekjal welcome, Smita 17:01 wizzyrea you're up early :) 17:01 Smita I need help 17:01 paul_p hi smita 17:01 wizzyrea hi smita 17:01 wizzyrea evening then lol 17:01 Smita Hi this is Smita from Tauranga <nz a koha newbe 17:01 wizzyrea don't ask me how I know that 17:01 paul_p jcamins_away, not, really morning ! 10 PM here ;-) 17:00 jcamins_away Good afternoon, India! 17:00 jcamins_away Oh. 17:00 wizzyrea it was morning 4am-ish my time 17:00 wizzyrea afternoon :) 17:00 jcamins_away Good morning (?) India! 16:56 wizzyrea hi bg :) 16:52 wizzyrea just keeping on top of it. 16:52 wizzyrea hey np, that bit was one of NEKLS things, iirc. 16:52 bg hey oleonard and wizzyrea 16:52 oleonard Good detective work wizzyrea 16:49 wizzyrea yea, looks that way 16:49 oleonard So someone was making assumptions about field numbers 16:48 oleonard Ah, that would be it. 16:48 wizzyrea it messes up which field gets the error span 16:48 wizzyrea if you remove or hide fields from the items framework 16:47 wizzyrea keke no 16:47 oleonard Oh, not an interesting mushroom or fungus? 16:47 wizzyrea re: your not for loan thinger 16:47 wizzyrea oleonard: I just discovered something interesting 16:32 trea i'm here 16:32 libsysguy yo trea you around 16:28 wizzyrea http://screencast.com/t/4zJkh34fa 16:25 wizzyrea oleonard: I guess others are seeing your prob with not-for-loan, but it's totally working in my test install 16:21 juan_sieira hi henri 16:16 jcamins_away libsysguy: ask sekjal or druthb if they remember something like that. 16:16 jcamins_away I could've sworn you reported to me that Sharon was having the wrong records showing up when cataloging, because of extra stuff in your biblio table. 16:16 jcamins_away Hm. 16:14 wizzyrea man idk, I am not finding anything like that 16:12 wizzyrea send your condolences to googlez. 16:11 libsysguy jesus I feel sorry for your mail server 16:11 wizzyrea it's in my computer, pup. 16:11 * wizzyrea has every email sent since the dawn of NExpress on Koha 16:11 libsysguy jk jk 16:11 libsysguy c'mon wizzyrea where are those acient memories :p 16:10 wizzyrea oh my, hm 16:10 jcamins_away No, way back. 16:09 wizzyrea that wasn't my bug directly, just one I sort of poked at 16:08 wizzyrea but I don't think that is necessarily relevant here 16:08 wizzyrea well, there was the bug where imports weren't matching because the rule wasn't being applied properly because it had been edited 16:08 jcamins_away wizzyrea: didn't you have a problem with matching and extra records in the biblio table? 16:07 reiveune bye 16:04 wizzyrea well, not the ancient part :) 16:03 libsysguy :p 16:03 libsysguy ^^ 16:03 wizzyrea hm. that may be true anyway >.> 16:03 wizzyrea omg, if you are old and forgetful than I am ancient and demented. 16:03 libsysguy hehe 16:03 * libsysguy is old and forgetful 16:03 libsysguy it has been a long time 16:02 libsysguy i think maybe someting poped up when we were trying to use the matching records 16:02 jcamins_away libsysguy: yeah, something went very wrong. The import tool should not create biblios without biblioitems. 16:02 libsysguy http://pastebin.com/cze0cV5x 16:02 libsysguy apparently 16:01 wizzyrea ? 16:01 wizzyrea libsysguy: are you having a problem 16:01 libsysguy is there anyway to verify that? 16:00 libsysguy which would make since if you had multiple volumes of items 16:00 libsysguy if you multiply the number of biblioitems by 2 you get 6000-ish more than the biblios 15:59 libsysguy with the import tool (script version 15:59 libsysguy jcamins_away: what if there are 2 of every biblio 15:59 jcamins_away libsysguy: how did you import the data? 15:53 libsysguy good question...maybe some bad data from out old ils? 15:52 jcamins_away I'm not even sure how that could happen. 15:51 * libsysguy feels like monday has won 15:50 jcamins_away Oh boy. 15:49 libsysguy http://pastebin.com/cze0cV5x 15:49 libsysguy :'( 15:49 libsysguy grr and pastebot is down for me 15:47 libsysguy oh poo 15:47 jcamins_away Wait, are you asking about entries in the biblio table against entries in the biblioitem table? If those two aren't the same, you're in trouble. 15:46 libsysguy but there are about 10K less 15:46 libsysguy yeah ill chekc it out...I thought there should be one biblioitem for each item 15:46 oleonard You could also have records for other electronic resources like web sites. 15:45 jcamins_away Hmmm... find an ebook record and check? This is probably not a good sign. 15:45 libsysguy ^^ 15:44 * jcamins_away can hear libsysguy thinking "please have ebooks please have ebooks please have ebooks, why doesn't jcamins ever give us good news?" 15:44 libsysguy well we do have a lot of ebooks...i just thought out cataloger was creating an item record for them 15:44 libsysguy gotcha 15:44 jcamins_away If you don't have ebooks, no, you probably have a problem. 15:44 jcamins_away libsysguy: yes, if you have ebooks. 15:43 libsysguy is it normal to have more biblios than items? 15:40 wizzyrea bah no 15:40 oleonard Any luck wizzyrea ? 15:26 wizzyrea mad* 15:26 wizzyrea I can't find it, i feel like I'm going ma. 15:26 wizzyrea cait what was that bug about searching if the user that created an aqbasket had been deleted? 15:24 wizzyrea *nod* 15:23 oleonard wizzyrea: In master? 15:21 wizzyrea but lost isn't 15:21 wizzyrea notforloan 15:21 wizzyrea from edit items 15:21 wizzyrea mine is editable 15:20 oleonard Can't change notforloan from moredetail.pl 15:19 wizzyrea at least that's why lost is that way 15:19 wizzyrea you're supposed to do it from the items in the detail 15:19 wizzyrea so you're not supposed to edit them there 15:18 wizzyrea because changing them there doesn't trigger the lost sequence in fines 15:18 oleonard why are lost and notforloan not editable? 15:18 oleonard Okay, this is a new one for me: http://screencast.com/t/tDajb3pOA 15:14 cait oleonard++ 15:14 cait oh nice 15:13 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7120] After deleting order from order receive page redirect fails <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7120> 15:02 cait have fun :) 15:02 nengard ttyl 15:02 nengard back to training!! 15:02 nengard the trip to OK was hard enough - i couldn't do india 15:01 nengard hehe 15:01 cait you should shorten their cookie supply 15:01 nengard you should email them 15:01 cait tss 15:01 nengard apparently they didn't listen!! 15:01 nengard cait i told the bywater team to do it for me 15:01 wizzyrea *nod* 15:01 cait nengard: I miss your live blogging at this year's kohacon 15:01 wizzyrea o/ wave 15:01 cait hi trea and nengard 14:59 Oak in my Slackware, it's done in /etc/koha/joha-httpd.conf http://pastie.org/2788355 14:59 nengard aqbooksellers 14:59 oleonard aqbooksellers 14:59 nengard i have that 14:59 nengard hang on 14:59 trea where are vendors stored in the db? 14:58 trea o/ morning 14:58 nengard Hi #koha - say hi to the new Koha library here in OK 14:58 Oak well, now I am about see what needs to be done about virtual hosts in Debian 14:57 cait Oak: were yo uable to finish your install? 14:57 * cait hides 14:56 cait wizzyrea: I filled up the list of acq need sign-offs with tet plans ;) 14:53 Oak hello cait :] 14:53 cait hi Oak :) 14:53 Oak oleonard++ 14:52 cait oleonard++ 14:52 cait hi wizzyrea :) 14:49 wizzyrea mornin 14:41 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7113] Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7113> 14:31 * Oak installing build-essential 14:23 magnuse see ya later #koha 14:22 Oak liw++ 14:21 trea1 hi magnuse 14:21 magnuse hiya trea1 14:20 magnuse liw++ 14:20 Oak oh okay, thank you. will do that now ten. 14:20 liw Oak, you may in fact want to install the build-essential package to get all the "usual" build tools, and the "perl" package, to get the whole perl standard installation 14:20 Oak doing make install now :) 14:18 magnuse yay 14:18 Oak make is running now 14:17 Oak i did 14:17 Oak i do actually 14:13 Oak it *is* a vanilla Debian netinst after all. perhaps i need to install 'make' 14:12 Oak uh oh 14:12 magnuse hm, it actually says "command not found" for make - sounds like you need to install make or something? 14:10 Oak this is what happens: http://pastie.org/2788147 14:07 magnuse it should be ok to just accept the default 14:07 magnuse ah, ok 14:07 Oak i just said user for easy to read/understand 14:06 Oak it's called silas 14:06 Oak nope 14:06 Oak and what if the directory does not exist, and just press enter? 14:06 magnuse is your user called "user"? 14:06 magnuse just somewhere you have write access 14:06 Oak okay 14:05 magnuse hm, you shouldn't need to tell it anything specific there 14:05 Oak it is offering folder /home/user/koha-dev/ as configuration directory. 14:04 Oak magnuse, yes it's owned by my user. one question though, it asks for "Configuration directory:" in the start. should i give it the same as cloned git, or the one it is suggesting? 14:02 Oak cait++ 14:02 magnuse cait++ in general 14:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7113 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts 14:01 oleonard cait++ # for her meticulous testing of Bug 7113 14:00 Oak the other pc is booting, will check that first thing 14:00 Oak :) I was just thinking the same thing as i read my own message. 14:00 cait see you all later! 14:00 cait going to explore a bit more :) 13:59 magnuse ? 13:59 magnuse Oak: and the user you are running it as is the one that owns the files and directories 13:59 cait the library school is right around the corner so I thought I should take a look :) 13:59 cait oleonard: It's been open for around a week now 13:58 Oak let me run it again. 13:58 oleonard Wow cait, what a beautiful space 13:58 magnuse sure you didn't get an error at the end of running "perl Makefile.PL"? 13:58 Oak :) 13:58 magnuse hm, sorry no, i can't think of anything clever 13:57 cait magnuse might know :) 13:57 cait hm 13:55 Oak about running perl Makefile.PL in the git cloned folder. I did that. then chose 'dev', then after answering all the questions, it ended with a message saying, like, make file created I think. then after it when I give 'make' command, it says no such file. make file is not getting created. 13:46 Oak yes, very white :) 13:45 magnuse "Zur Begr��ung gab es Schokolade." yay! 13:45 cait it's very white 13:45 Oak good 13:45 cait cafe in the new public library 13:45 magnuse yay! 13:45 cait http://www.flickr.com/photos/stadt_stuttgart/sets/72157627450627069/ 13:45 cait I am here now: 13:45 cait :) 13:44 cait was ok 13:44 Oak the presentation 13:44 magnuse how'd it go? 13:44 magnuse guten tag cait 13:43 cait hi all :) 12:22 jwagner Hi oleonard 12:22 oleonard Hi #koha 11:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (12:20 PM CET on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 11:34 magnuse @wunder boo 11:33 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 30.0�C (4:30 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 11:33 Amit_Gupta @wunder New Delhi 11:33 huginn Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 27.0�C (2:30 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa. 11:32 Amit_Gupta @wunder dehradun 11:30 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 29.0�C (3:00 PM PKT on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 11:30 Oak @wunder islamabad 11:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 11:29 magnuse @wunder thane 11:29 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 33.0�C (3:40 PM IST on October 31, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 11:29 magnuse @wunder mumbai 11:25 francharb see ya 11:25 francharb ! 11:25 francharb 0/ all of you 11:25 francharb 0/ les gens! 11:24 sekjal conference done for the day. going to get some rest 11:15 * druthb1 waves, and heads out. 10:54 Amit_Gupta so coming on 4th 10:54 jransom how often will kohacon come to India my friend 10:53 Amit_Gupta hmm i m busy in some projects 10:52 jransom Actually Amit, you should have been here the whole time. 10:50 Amit_Gupta i am also druthb1 10:50 * druthb1 wants to meet Amit_Gupta, too! 10:50 Amit_Gupta sure 10:50 Amit_Gupta aah 10:50 Amit_Gupta ;D 10:50 bg from IRC - and always saying hi to me - when I used to have the nick of brendan 10:50 Amit_Gupta bg: why i am famous in your house 10:49 Amit_Gupta aah why i am famous in you house 10:49 bg you are famous in our house :) 10:49 bg Amit_Gupta: my wife told me I had to get a picture of you :D 10:48 Amit_Gupta aah bg 10:48 Amit_Gupta sure jrnasom 10:46 bg :) 10:46 bg same here Amit! I need to get a picture with you 10:45 jransom Amit: please make sure you come and introduce yourself to me ok :) 10:30 cait ok, I am gone 10:16 cait :) 10:12 Amit_Gupta nov 10:12 Amit_Gupta no i m going on 4th 10:11 cait you are there? 10:11 cait but seems people are having a good time at the conf :) 10:11 Amit_Gupta ok 10:11 cait in stuttgart today to give a presentation about koha 10:11 cait no 10:11 Amit_Gupta cait : r u in conf? 10:11 cait hi Amit_Gupta :) 10:11 Amit_Gupta heya cait 10:10 cait and hi again #koha ;) 09:58 sekjal ^^ 09:58 druthb1 away for tea. back shortly. 09:57 Amit_Gupta for kohaconf 09:57 Amit_Gupta heya jransom: i am coming on 4th nov 09:55 jransom Amit: are you here at KohaCon? 09:39 Oak thank you. 09:39 Oak okay 09:39 Oak oh good 09:38 druthb1 yes, Oak...on a new install, it'll do that. 09:38 * Oak googles "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml" 09:37 Oak perl Makefile.PL says, "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /home/silas/koha1/C4/Context.pm line 307." do I ignore it and go for 'dev' installation? 09:37 Amit_Gupta heya cait 09:34 rangi cya cait 09:34 jransom cya babe 09:34 Oak do talk to strangers 09:33 Oak later cait 09:33 cait and off again - train arriving :) 09:33 * cait waves 09:33 * druthb1 wonders how this network got hos hiccup-ey. 09:32 jransom and here we all are 09:26 jransom and determined not to miss out on anything at kohacon - bad enough with 1 day io bed preconference 09:26 jransom (so sick of being sick) 09:26 jransom but came back 09:26 jransom i had to go back to hotel 09:25 rangi 3325 downloads of 3.4.5 or 3.6.0 in october alone 09:25 rangi specials, govt, academic etc all move a lot faster 09:25 rangi to decided anything 09:25 rangi they are slow slow slow 09:24 rangi you mean public libraries? 09:24 druthb jransom: I finally spotted you...you changed!? I was looking for that wonderful sari! 09:24 wahanui 3325 09:24 rangi 2612 + 269 + 444 09:24 eythian http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/eythian/6298263842/ 09:24 huginn jransom: I've exhausted my database of quotes 09:24 jransom @rangi funny that govt departs are moving to koha bit not libraries 09:23 jransom behind brooke 09:23 jransom mtj_mumbai : i am in bcak of room 09:23 sekjal rangi: okay, cool 09:20 rangi so ppl will just have to aggregate themselves 09:19 mtj_mumbai we may go out later, for a kolhap u ri rassa 09:19 rangi it beats the hell out of the server 09:19 rangi thats on purpose 09:19 rangi yup 09:19 sekjal FYI: annual view of AWS stats for download.koha-community.org is disabled; can only view by month 09:19 magnuse happy hunting mtj_mumbai! 09:19 * druthb has gotta-gotta get some work done tonight. After going to the tailor to pick up my sari, of course. 09:18 mtj_mumbai magnuse: not yet, but tonight i will :p 09:17 magnuse mtj_mumbai: found any chili to your liking yet? 09:17 * magnuse lols at workship 09:17 mtj_mumbai jransom: i've got your multi-box 09:17 sekjal a colleague here is doing a research paper 09:16 sekjal great, thank you, rangi 09:16 rangi shop even 09:16 rangi tomorrow is workship 09:16 mtj_mumbai hi all 09:16 magnuse tee hee 09:16 jransom heya magnus-in-a-kilt 09:16 rangi not bad, got a lot of govt depts coming to talk to us 09:16 magnuse kia ora jransom 09:16 jransom how was lianza today rangi? 09:15 wahanui hmmm... jransom is so pleased! 09:15 rangi hey jransom 09:15 jransom heya all 09:15 rangi 106 in september 09:15 * druthb waves to jransom. 09:15 rangi 115 in october 09:15 rangi t 09:15 rangi click on countries on the lef 09:15 rangi http://download.koha-community.org/awstats/awstats.pl 09:14 sekjal link? 09:14 rangi we have by country 09:14 rangi hmm not by state 09:14 sekjal do we store those stats? 09:13 sekjal would it be possible to get download statistics from download.koha-community.org for India, by state if possible? 09:01 magnuse eythian: yeah, could be 09:01 eythian Yeah I don't know why, maybe it takes time to update. 09:01 druthb Amit_Gupta: going well. Very nice conference facility, lots of friendly local folk here....and the lunch was *wonderful*. 09:00 eythian_phone Yeah I don't know why, maybe it takes time to update. 08:59 magnuse eythian_phone: looks like the kohacon11 tag isn't working for you? strange... 08:59 Amit_Gupta druthb: how is conference going on 08:57 druthb hi, Amit_Gupta! :) 08:54 Amit_Gupta heya druthb 08:54 druthb Hi, cait! 08:54 eythian_phone Ok all the photos I have are up now 08:39 sekjal thanks, rangi! 08:39 rangi 1684 08:39 rangi the main one? 08:38 sekjal how many people are on the mailing list, roughly? 08:38 * magnuse wonders if mtj found anything hot enough yet 08:37 Oak you should try Baryani in next lunch... or tomorrow 08:36 Oak enjoy karein ji ap. 08:36 Oak hehe. 08:36 magnuse hehe 08:35 druthb Thanks, Oak. We're back from lunch, and paul_p is at the front again. The food was wonderful! I got hold of something *really* spicy, though. 08:34 Oak welcome back druthb 08:32 Amit_Gupta ;D 08:32 Amit_Gupta Namaste 08:32 Oak Namaste Amit_Gupta :) 08:32 Amit_Gupta heya Oak 08:31 Oak ok good. thank you. 08:31 rangi yes, dev 08:31 Oak just a quick question meaning to ask since that day (http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-10-26#i_798078), and i run perl Makefile.PL from inside that cloned folder, yes? if yes then if I choose 'dev', from 'standard', 'single' and 'dev'. right? I know it's not the best time to ask this question (KohaCon!!). so sorry about that in advance. 08:30 magnuse paul_p++ 08:30 rangi :) 08:30 sekjal my answer: very well :) 08:30 sekjal paul_p talking about how the community works 08:29 magnuse yay 08:29 eythian Paul is up now again 08:29 eythian You too! 08:29 cait thx magnuse :) 08:29 sekjal magnuse: yes, this is amazing 08:29 magnuse guten gl�ck cait 08:28 sekjal hi, cait, bye cait! 08:28 cait good luck eythian :) 08:28 magnuse having fun, sekjal? 08:28 cait ok, have to go 08:28 sekjal hi, magnuse! 08:27 Oak yup :) 08:27 magnuse hiya sekjal 08:27 magnuse yay! 08:27 cait brooke in a sari photo! 08:26 magnuse eythian++ 08:26 eythian http://www.flickr.com/photos/eythian 08:25 cait eythian: link? 08:24 * eythian uploads a couple of photos 08:21 * cait checks herself for feathers 08:20 magnuse http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/kohacon11/ yay! 08:20 Oak hm, a little bird just tweeted 08:18 eythian Heh it might, no promises though :) 08:17 cait perhaps if I could chat the presentation instead of talking... that could work :P 08:17 cait it's scary enough in German 08:17 cait lol 08:17 magnuse cait: cool 08:17 eythian You could be presenting here, but nooooo.. ;) 08:16 cait library school 08:16 magnuse cait: where are you presenting? 08:16 Oak well, now when two will start your own presentations, you'll think about that! about the the other one. nice. 08:15 magnuse hi bg 08:15 eythian Haha 08:15 cait I will tell them to not listen to me but check the tweets 08:15 bg heya all 08:15 cait :) 08:15 eythian Actually, mines in 2.15, I miscalculated before 08:15 rangi pretty close 08:14 cait mine starts in 2:30 08:14 cait was wondering if we will be presenting at the same time :) 08:13 cait hm mine too 08:12 eythian In a few hours 08:12 Oak :) hello Katrin 08:12 cait eythian: when is your presentation? 08:11 cait hi Oak :) 08:11 Oak :) 08:11 eythian Hi oak 08:11 Oak hello Mr. Robin 08:10 magnuse Oak 08:10 Oak magnuse 08:10 magnuse hehe 08:10 eythian Heh 08:10 * cait note to myself: don't use laptop keyboard as tray 08:10 cait was carrying laptop downstars 08:10 eythian Time cait changed some passwords... 08:09 cait oups 08:09 magnuse ;-) 08:09 magnuse oops 08:08 cait 9zeeuu 08:08 cait u 08:08 cait 8zuu 08:08 magnuse upstreaming++ 08:08 rangi sweet 08:07 eythian All about upstreaming of things 08:07 magnuse "No Library Left Behind: Keeping Up With Koha" yay! 08:06 eythian I think so ;) 08:06 magnuse must be a good topic, then! 08:06 eythian It is going pretty well 08:06 eythian So far, about 3 people have foreshadowed my topic :) 08:05 magnuse kia ora #koha 08:05 rangi it going well? 08:05 eythian Hi cait :) 08:05 rangi cool 08:05 cait hi mr robin :) 08:05 eythian Yeah about 3.5 hours 08:04 rangi you're up in a couple of hours eh eythian ? 08:02 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6679] Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6679> 07:43 Oak hello reiveune :) 07:41 wahanui hi, reiveune 07:41 reiveune hello 07:28 stuartyeates sci123: that looks very much like an apache permissions error 07:22 sci123 this time we got 8080 problem 07:21 sci123 we already installed koha 5 times 07:21 cait if you can, come back a little later and try again asking on the channel or write a mail to the mailing list, but make sure to include as much information as possible (version you installed, tutorial you followed, problems you see) 07:20 sci123 ok thanx alot for ur time 07:20 cait sorry, I have to go 07:19 sci123 ? 07:19 sci123 can u tell us what to do 07:19 sci123 plz help us 07:18 cait not koha 07:18 cait sci123: this looks like a problem with your apache settings 07:17 sci123 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 07:17 cait what is the exact error message you see? 07:17 cait sci123: i think that was on a different topic 07:16 sci123 ??? 07:15 rangi stuartyeates: ahh just laptops with a webbrowser on them, we should be fine :) 07:14 sci123 nw help us 07:14 sci123 we got an error that we have no permission to access / on this server 07:14 sci123 and when tried to run webinstaller on 8080 07:14 sci123 s 07:14 sci123 we have followed all the steps .......................changed all the apache configuration file 07:13 cait sci123: I am not sure how to help you without knowing what you have done (and apache does not like me much) 07:12 Oak :] 07:12 cait hi Oak :) 07:10 Oak hello cait 07:07 sci123 permission* 07:07 sci123 we r getting permisswion problem 07:07 sci123 koha is not running on 8080 port 07:07 sci123 help us 07:06 cait hi #koha :) 07:06 * sekjal waves to cait on his way to lunch 07:06 sekjal I hope that helps... I must go now (break time at KohaCon conference). back in an hour or so 07:05 sekjal check file permissions in koha directories... that's the last thing I can think of. should be readable by www-data user 07:04 sci123 sry 07:04 sci123 it is nt working 07:03 sci123 let me try 07:03 sekjal try uncommenting, but the default settings should work out-of-the-box 07:02 sci123 and wat to write ? 07:02 sci123 we have to uncomment it or not? 07:02 sci123 right nw it is commented 07:02 sci123 ? 07:02 sci123 #NameVirtualHost * this 07:01 sekjal NameVirtualHosts in koha-httpd.conf? 06:58 sci123 .. 06:58 sci123 we r installing it on ubuntu 06:58 sekjal firewall? 06:58 sci123 regarding 8080 port 06:58 sci123 we r getting permission problem 06:58 sci123 yes 06:57 sekjal and restarted Apache after? 06:57 sci123 yes 06:57 sekjal sci123: have you updated ports.conf to include line "Listen 8080" ? 06:53 sci123 eythian r u there? 06:51 sci123 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 06:51 sci123 when we try to run koha on localhost:8080,we r getting the follwing error : 06:50 sci123 ? 06:50 sci123 can u help us 06:50 sci123 actually 80 port is running ..bt 8080 is not 06:49 eythian sci123: your Apache is mis-configured. I can't really say how, but that's where you need to look. 06:47 francharb see ya 06:47 francharb almost lunch time 06:41 sci123 pls 06:41 sci123 can anyone help us 06:41 sci123 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. 06:26 Oak coooool 06:24 AndChat| http://ubuntuone.com/3ob6lHdZ9oUnjaEo93oa8t <-- Brooke 06:21 francharb :) 06:21 francharb brooke's fantasy is about to begin 06:17 eythian http://ubuntuone.com/0YpnDPhUfyh2Txv4YFq3K0 06:02 bg heh typos upfront 06:02 bg whoops that was supposed to be hello not helll 06:02 bg Amit_Gupta: are you here? 06:01 bg heh 06:01 * druthb waves to bg, and chucks Skittles at him from the back of the room. 06:01 Amit_Gupta ;D 05:57 bg helll 05:54 Oak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdNnw99-Ic 05:49 * Oak goes to find that Pink Floyd song 05:48 druthb :D 05:48 Oak hopefully next year though... 05:48 Oak :) i know. 05:47 druthb Hi, Oak! I do wish you were here, my friend. 05:41 Oak some thoughts must never be spoken. 05:40 * Oak wants to say "lucky bastards" but thinks that would be rude. 05:39 Amit_Gupta heya francharb 05:39 francharb ;) 05:39 francharb in direct from kohacon2011 05:39 francharb hi all! 05:24 stuartyeates but i have no idea what's needed 05:24 stuartyeates rangi: looks like i've been surprise-nominated to provide tech support for a session you and Paul are running tomorrow at lianza 05:13 Oak kia ora druthb :) 05:13 * Oak waves 05:08 sekjal tea/coffee break! 05:06 sekjal idea for Koha stats: contributions by country (via paul_p) 04:58 druthb buffering...buffering... 04:54 sekjal I do so love the "10 Years in 10 Minutes" video... always so inspiring 04:41 druthb Irma: I'm @druthb on twitter...may I follow you? 04:39 sekjal Irma: yes, mtj is behind druthb and I. back of the left-hand side of the room 04:38 Irma is mtj there too? 04:38 Irma hi druthb ah ... that is where you are ... 04:35 * druthb waves to Irma from the back of the room 04:17 druthb he apologized for his accent: "I'm from France...I'm French." hehehehe 04:16 rangi cool 04:15 sekjal paul_p's up now, to present on Koha's history 04:13 rangi i think wizzyrea 04:13 rangi heh 04:12 druthb rangi and wizzyrea both mentioned right at the end; she can't remember which came up with "don't be a dick!" 04:03 druthb [off] not gonna tweet what she just said...nope, nope, nope... 04:02 rangi i think im going to use that as the title of my next presentation 04:02 sekjal unless the patron is wearing a hat, or has ever been to East Timor 04:02 druthb lol 04:01 rangi i need to only issue this book if the moon is 3/4 full .... but only on tuesdays 04:01 rangi it wouldnt be hard if libraries had sane rules :) 04:00 druthb :P 04:00 rangi that came up a few times 04:00 druthb nope. "How hard can it be?" 04:00 rangi or 'these rules are crazy' 04:00 rangi i hope it was marc must die that i was quoted saying 04:00 druthb she looks *glorious* in her sari. 04:00 rangi heh 03:59 * druthb is tweeting. rangi has already been mentioned. 03:59 sekjal she's doing a lovely job 03:59 rangi jransom killing it with her slides? 03:58 Amit_Gupta heya druthb 03:58 rangi cool 03:57 druthb I concur sekjal's count...100, possibly a few more. There's a large crowd of students in the back of one side. 03:56 rangi Amit_Gupta: cool 03:56 rangi cool not bad sekjal 03:56 sekjal rangi: I think there are about 100 people in the room right now 03:55 Amit_Gupta chris i m going to mumbai on 4th for hackfast 03:54 rangi jo up now? 03:54 rangi hey druthb 03:54 druthb o/ 03:54 rangi many people there? 03:53 sekjal good morning, Amit_Gupta 03:53 Amit_Gupta heya sekjal 03:53 rangi heya sekjal and Amit_Gupta 03:52 sekjal greetings from KohaCon '11 ! 03:41 Amit_Gupta heya chris 02:43 * chris_n wanders by 01:00 Judit :) 00:58 cait whoohoo :) 00:57 Judit i can print slips from koha 00:57 Judit it works 00:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7118] Any and empty entries in pull downs for suggestion filters <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7118> 00:49 cait I can try 00:49 cait hehe 00:45 Judit or just me 00:45 Judit tell them not to use win xp- freaks out poor koha people :) 00:43 Judit very good! 00:43 cait is this good? 00:43 Judit last time i used windows xp 10 years ago 00:43 cait about koha and open source ils 00:43 cait I am presenting to students at library school tomorrow 00:43 cait hmmm 00:43 Judit it is 00:43 cait it's evil 00:43 cait I had some windows time today too 00:43 cait oh 00:39 Judit i just spent 3 hours configuring a slip printet on winxp 00:38 Judit i need someencouragement 00:38 cait now I can't - too much pressure 00:38 cait um 00:37 Judit tell me something good 00:37 Judit hi cait 00:36 cait hi Judit :) 00:29 wahanui hola, Judit 00:29 Judit hi 00:21 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7117] Small display problems when organising suggestion tabs by name <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7117>