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00:03 |
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cait |
bye :) |
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00:44 |
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lastnode |
im havinga problemwith the modification log. when i loadit up for a particular record, the SQL in the log shows { 'biblioitemnumber' => 'X' |
00:44 |
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lastnode |
and X is not teh biblioitem of the record im looking at |
00:45 |
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lastnode |
whereas the 'Object' column shows the correct biblioitem id |
00:46 |
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lastnode |
thoughts? |
00:47 |
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eythian |
Unfortunately, I have no idea about that area of things. |
00:53 |
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lastnode |
maybe rangi or someone does |
00:53 |
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lastnode |
will wait |
00:53 |
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lastnode |
dont want to put it to the list if it's an obvious answer |
00:54 |
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mtj |
sounds like a bug, to me |
00:55 |
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lastnode |
hmmm |
00:57 |
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lastnode |
mtj: should i put it to the list? |
00:58 |
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mtj |
i would log a bug 1st |
00:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]show_bug.cgi?id=1 major, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, Missing uploadedmarc table definition |
00:58 |
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lastnode |
well i dont know if it's a bug for sure, right? |
00:59 |
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mtj |
you probably wont know that, until you log it |
01:00 |
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lastnode |
sure, ok |
01:01 |
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mtj |
a screenshot attached to your bug, looks useful here |
01:05 |
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lastnode |
mtj: im looking at this againa dn it looks like object maps to item |
01:05 |
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lastnode |
and not biblio? |
01:06 |
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lastnode |
so that makes sense then |
01:07 |
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mtj |
if the log says ''biblioitemnumber' => 'X' |
01:07 |
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mtj |
... and X is not the correct bibitem, its a bug |
01:07 |
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lastnode |
the object being queried correspondes to itemnumber, not biblionumber. which is probably expected behaviour. |
01:08 |
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lastnode |
i think i misphrased my statemetn earlier and you misunderstood |
01:09 |
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lastnode |
the modification log for a record queries with teh object number = biblionumber. this caused confusion |
01:09 |
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mtj |
from what you said previously , it sounds like a bug |
01:09 |
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lastnode |
when i modified the URL for object number = itemnumber, the correct log came up. |
01:20 |
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02:06 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: While testing the commits for 6716 I discovered a couple of missing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]def21091016db17f3> |
02:10 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: around? |
02:10 |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: yarp |
02:11 |
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jcamins_away |
Yay! |
02:11 |
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* jcamins_away |
hears eythian's wince from across the globe. |
02:11 |
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eythian |
:) |
02:13 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: I wrote a script for backing up the Koha database. I'd like to submit it as a script to go in the packages (different feature set than koha-dump). |
02:13 |
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jcamins_away |
You can see the script as it stands now here: https://github.com/jcamins/koh[…]ripts/koha-backup |
02:13 |
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eythian |
should it be those features get merged into koha-dump? |
02:14 |
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jcamins_away |
I thought about that, but that would require completely changing the way koha-dump works. |
02:14 |
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jcamins_away |
And making it into a Perl script. |
02:15 |
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eythian |
you can't use /etc/mysql/debian.cnf to get database access information. |
02:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. I was afraid that might be the case. |
02:15 |
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eythian |
it doesn't work if the database is on another machine. |
02:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Ooh. |
02:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Wait, no, that doesn't matter. |
02:15 |
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jcamins_away |
This _has_ to be run on the database server. |
02:16 |
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eythian |
oh |
02:16 |
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jcamins_away |
See, that's the thing. It doesn't replace koha-dump. |
02:16 |
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eythian |
yeah |
02:17 |
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jcamins_away |
I wasn't entirely sure that it was worthy of inclusion in Koha, but magnuse and druthb both gave it a resounding vote for inclusion. |
02:17 |
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rangi |
you wouldnt nessecarily have the packages on the db server |
02:17 |
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rangi |
i know we dont |
02:18 |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: I know. See my above comment about not being sure it is worthy. ;) |
02:18 |
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eythian |
it definitely does seem to assume that the database and koha are on the same machine. That's a bit of concern to me. |
02:18 |
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rangi |
it seems like the perfect thing to live at contribs |
02:18 |
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rangi |
we should resurrect that site |
02:19 |
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jcamins_away |
Contribs? |
02:19 |
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eythian |
the docs don't say how you go about restoring a backup you've made, either :) |
02:19 |
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rangi |
http://contribs.koha.org/ <-- old site |
02:20 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: that's for version 2. |
02:20 |
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rangi |
for stuff thats useful, but probably not ready (yet) for mainstream |
02:20 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: that's in no way the finished product. It's the script that I needed to have working yesterday. |
02:20 |
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jcamins_away |
;) |
02:20 |
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eythian |
fair enough :) |
02:20 |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: oh, nifty. That would be the perfect place. |
02:21 |
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rangi |
yup, we just need to set up a new contribs site somewhere |
02:21 |
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eythian |
could create a git repo with a very easy get-stuff-accepted policy |
02:22 |
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eythian |
or, even a page on the wiki to start with where people link to gitorious or whatever pages. |
02:22 |
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rangi |
yup, its more a nice frontend to see that stuff |
02:22 |
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rangi |
which the old site had |
02:22 |
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eythian |
yeah. |
02:22 |
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rangi |
https://gna.org/projects/pem/ <-- uses that |
02:22 |
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rangi |
(from 2 old time koha developers) |
02:23 |
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eythian |
oh, nifty |
02:23 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah. For me, the script can live happily in my cpspecial branch, but other people might need incremental backups. |
02:23 |
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rangi |
i set it up, dont remember it being too hard |
02:23 |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: incremental backups are a good thing, especially for larger sites, where a full packup is expensive. |
02:23 |
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eythian |
*backup |
02:24 |
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eythian |
I wonder if there's a way to get them without hitting the binlog, I'd expect that larger sites would also have one or more separate db servers. |
02:24 |
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eythian |
I guess replication is the real way of doing that. |
02:25 |
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jcamins_away |
Replication is best. The idea behind this script is that it runs on the backup DB server. |
02:25 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: exactly. Arguably a bit of an overkill for a site with ~100MB/data, but it's the principle of the thing. |
02:26 |
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jcamins_away |
There doesn't seem to be. |
02:26 |
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eythian |
so do you run a full backup daily, and incremental each hour, or something like that? |
02:27 |
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jcamins_away |
Full weekly, incremental daily. |
02:28 |
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jcamins_away |
However, as you can tell, I expected one might want to do hourly incrementals. |
02:28 |
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eythian |
ah right. We just run daily, and sync that off the machine. There's a patch going through that will save the last two days worth by default (using koha-dump) |
02:29 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, daily full backups are good, but cost a lot of bandwidth for off-site backups. |
02:30 |
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eythian |
it'd be a drop in the bucket compared to our other stuff :) I think it ends up on tape for us. |
02:30 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, but you're a big operation with a data center. |
02:31 |
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jcamins_away |
And actual computers that one can connect a tape drive to. |
02:31 |
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eythian |
yeah :) |
02:31 |
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* jcamins_away |
has an Internet connection with 30KB/s upload. |
02:32 |
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eythian |
I can see that being problematic... |
02:33 |
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jcamins_away |
And my download speed isn't that great here, either. |
02:34 |
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jcamins_away |
So bandwidth is a key concern for off-site backups. |
02:34 |
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eythian |
yep. |
02:36 |
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* eythian |
considers copy-pasting a chunk of code because he's not sure about how to rewrite it. This surely is not the answer. |
02:36 |
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jcamins_away |
What's it do? |
02:37 |
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eythian |
it's the XSLT for rendering OPAC detail |
02:38 |
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eythian |
currently it's doing "if the tag is 100 or 700, display stuff" followed by similar for 110/710 and so on, however we really want all the 100's first, then the 700's later. |
02:38 |
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jcamins_away |
I thought marcelr fixed that. |
02:39 |
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eythian |
it's pretty nice for the staff client (in fact, the code there is a whole lot nicer in general) but not the OPAC. |
02:39 |
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eythian |
I might have a go at putting this into a template. |
02:40 |
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jcamins_away |
Bug 5643 |
02:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5643 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Few new template routines in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl |
02:40 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, templates are good. |
02:40 |
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eythian |
different XSLT file |
02:41 |
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eythian |
Mine's detail, not results |
02:41 |
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jcamins_away |
Right. I thought he did that for both. |
02:41 |
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eythian |
not in that bug, anyway |
02:42 |
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eythian |
also not in the code, as I can see exactly why it's the way it is :) |
02:43 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, I can't find a bug with template routines for the details display. |
02:44 |
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jcamins_away |
The opac details xslt is particularly bad for copy-and-paste code. |
02:45 |
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eythian |
big issue I have with declarative languages: doing a relatively minor change can often result in a refactor, and if you're not careful you can take the lazy way out. |
02:45 |
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jcamins_away |
True. On the other hand, if it were done right from the beginning, that wouldn't be so likely to happen. |
02:46 |
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eythian |
yeah |
02:46 |
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eythian |
wholly chao, that worked. |
02:46 |
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eythian |
that was unexpected. |
02:46 |
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* jcamins_away |
looks to see who wrote the XSLT stylesheets originally. |
02:47 |
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rangi |
they came from loc |
02:47 |
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jcamins_away |
Well color me purple, I never woulda guessed! |
02:47 |
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eythian |
heh |
02:47 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, LC could have done better with their examples, too. |
02:47 |
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rangi |
and then indexdata and then koha people |
02:48 |
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jcamins_away |
According to git log, I was correct in my prediction of which Koha person. ;) |
02:48 |
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rangi |
yup |
02:48 |
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rangi |
shortcuts r us |
02:48 |
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rangi |
that was his MO |
02:48 |
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eythian |
a few people have done a good refactoring of koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl though, it's a crapload cleaner. |
02:49 |
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rangi |
yup |
02:49 |
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* jcamins_away |
suspects marcelr may have had something to do with it. |
02:49 |
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rangi |
and kf and fredericd |
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02:53 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, and me. |
02:53 |
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jcamins_away |
Heh. Forgot about that. |
02:54 |
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jcamins_away |
Okay, time for sleep. |
02:54 |
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jcamins_away |
Good night, #koha. |
02:54 |
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eythian |
heh |
02:54 |
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eythian |
cya |
02:57 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Adding the 155th developer to the history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d864855168031c94> |
03:00 |
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03:03 |
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eythian |
awesome, author stuff refactored into templates. Now I can copy-paste and each thing is only 3 lines, not 30. |
03:04 |
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rangi |
:) |
03:07 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5533] marking item lost diff in two places <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533> |
03:28 |
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03:31 |
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kulps |
evening folks |
03:31 |
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kulps |
anybody about? |
03:32 |
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mtj |
hiya kulps |
03:33 |
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kulps |
I'm a brutally new user and have some questions, do you maybe have time to show me the program? |
03:34 |
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rangi |
what version are you running? |
03:34 |
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kulps |
3.04.04.000 |
03:35 |
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rangi |
you've found the manual eh? |
03:35 |
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rangi |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/3-4-manual-en/ |
03:35 |
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kulps |
I hadn't yet |
03:35 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide <-- is good too |
03:35 |
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kulps |
I was googling (Without great success) |
03:35 |
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mtj |
ooooh, i'm a little busy for a demo, right now kulps |
03:36 |
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kulps |
I understand, I popped in last night and it seemed like everyone was afk, I'm not in a big rush. |
03:36 |
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kulps |
rangi, thanks for the newbie guide, I'll give it a read |
03:39 |
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kulps |
I'm a bit confused as to what the current version of the software is |
03:39 |
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kulps |
koha.org says 4.2 |
03:39 |
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kulps |
wiki says 3.4.4 |
03:39 |
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rangi |
koha.org is not koha |
03:39 |
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kulps |
okay |
03:39 |
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rangi |
koha-community.org is |
03:39 |
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kulps |
so 3.4 is current then? |
03:40 |
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rangi |
a company hostile to the project owns koha.org and they are being particularly annoying about it |
03:40 |
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rangi |
yes 3.4.4 is the current stable release |
03:40 |
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rangi |
3.4.5 will be out september 22 |
03:40 |
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rangi |
http://koha-community.org/home/#more-1 |
03:41 |
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kulps |
I like the way the newbie guide is written, quite approachable. |
03:42 |
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kulps |
is there a changelog for 3.4.5? will it be worth the upgrade? |
03:43 |
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rangi |
we do a one monthly bug fix release, 6 monthly feature release |
03:43 |
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rangi |
you can see all the changelogs on the koha-community.org site |
03:43 |
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rangi |
it wont contain any new features, only bug fixes |
03:44 |
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rangi |
http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-4/#more-2633 <-- that was 3.4.4 |
03:44 |
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kulps |
okay |
03:44 |
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kulps |
I likely wont move until there's a feature release |
03:44 |
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kulps |
I only plan to use koha for my personal collection until I get a better handle on it |
03:45 |
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rangi |
id highly recommend installing using the packages and upgrading for bugfix releases, when you put it into production |
03:45 |
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kulps |
okay, I'll make the effort if you think it's worth it |
03:46 |
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rangi |
well not for your personal one probably |
03:46 |
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kulps |
my "production" library will be smaller than my library |
03:46 |
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rangi |
did you install using the packages? or from the tarball |
03:46 |
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kulps |
just wanted to get my hackerspaces library indexed |
03:46 |
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kulps |
tarball |
03:46 |
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rangi |
yeah, id use the packages in future, makes upgrading easier |
03:46 |
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kulps |
it's been a bit of a pain, I'm pretty fresh to linux, I'm a windows admin |
03:47 |
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rangi |
packages are a lot easier |
03:47 |
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kulps |
noted |
03:47 |
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kulps |
are the packages kept as up to date? |
03:47 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
03:47 |
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rangi |
yes |
03:47 |
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kulps |
damn |
03:47 |
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kulps |
that probably would have been a lot easier |
03:47 |
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rangi |
next time ;) |
03:47 |
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mtj |
everything's a pain, when you are a windows admin :p |
03:48 |
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kulps |
apt-get install notsodamnhardplease |
03:48 |
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kulps |
so I've been told, I'm working on it |
03:48 |
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kulps |
I learned a few things during the install |
03:48 |
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kulps |
I'd never used cpan before |
03:48 |
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kulps |
so that was pretty neat |
03:48 |
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rangi |
yeah you dont need to with the packages, as long as you are running debian stable |
03:48 |
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rangi |
all the perl modules are packaged too |
03:49 |
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kulps |
I am, |
03:49 |
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* kulps |
sighs |
03:49 |
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kulps |
oh well |
03:49 |
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kulps |
learning experience all around |
03:51 |
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kulps |
so are most people here full time librarians or do you see more hobby librarians? |
03:51 |
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rangi |
mostly fulltime |
03:51 |
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rangi |
we get some hobby ones too |
03:52 |
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rangi |
koha is a bit overkill for most hobby people |
03:54 |
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kulps |
I know, but I tried to find a smaller suite and found nothinh usable |
03:54 |
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kulps |
I setup the virtual appliance last year when I was piloting it for the hackerspace and knew it was overkill |
03:54 |
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kulps |
but |
03:54 |
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kulps |
for us the exercise is often as important as the result |
03:56 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
03:57 |
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eythian |
you'll find it appropriately hackable once you get it going. |
03:57 |
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kulps |
that's good news |
03:58 |
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kulps |
so, is there a smaller suite that I just failed to find in my searching? |
03:58 |
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kulps |
in case any friends ask |
03:58 |
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rangi |
you looked at openbiblio? |
03:58 |
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kulps |
no |
03:58 |
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rangi |
http://obiblio.sourceforge.net/ |
03:58 |
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kulps |
I found biblioteq |
03:58 |
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rangi |
it seems kinda orphaned now |
03:59 |
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rangi |
and is far less featureful, but a lot smaller |
03:59 |
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kulps |
obiblio or biblioteq? |
03:59 |
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rangi |
openbiblio |
03:59 |
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kulps |
mmm |
04:00 |
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rangi |
actually yeah, it looks like a dead project |
04:01 |
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rangi |
no commits in over a year, in the main repo |
04:01 |
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rangi |
but this fork |
04:01 |
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rangi |
https://bitbucket.org/mstetson/obiblio-10-wip/ |
04:01 |
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rangi |
seems to be alive |
04:01 |
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kulps |
have you ever used it? |
04:01 |
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rangi |
nope |
04:02 |
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kulps |
hmm |
04:02 |
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kulps |
maybe I'll give it a whirl |
04:02 |
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kulps |
but probably I'll stick to Koha |
04:02 |
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kulps |
I want the ldap integration for the space |
04:03 |
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rangi |
koha has a big active community |
04:03 |
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rangi |
so much easier to get help |
04:03 |
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kulps |
no sure if the smaller suites support it |
04:03 |
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kulps |
yeah |
04:03 |
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kulps |
that too |
04:03 |
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rangi |
ok, ive had enough of hte solvent smell here at work (new carpet) im going home |
04:04 |
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kulps |
what time do you have? |
04:08 |
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eythian |
16:00 here |
04:08 |
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eythian |
and I'm getting pretty headachey from this smell too, going to tidy up the stuff I'm doing and head off also. |
04:12 |
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04:13 |
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kulps |
ah, it's 22:00 where I am, so I was a bit confused why somebody would still be working on a sunday |
04:14 |
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eythian |
it's monday :) |
04:14 |
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eythian |
(we're from the future you see) |
04:15 |
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kulps |
aww crap |
04:15 |
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kulps |
future robo-librarians |
04:16 |
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eythian |
s/librarians/perl developers/ in our case |
04:16 |
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04:17 |
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kulps |
neat |
04:18 |
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kulps |
well I'm super appreciative of your work, manning the channel and possibly contributing to the project |
04:21 |
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eythian |
:) |
04:22 |
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kulps |
well, I shant hold you up, I've got a whole newbie guide to read |
04:22 |
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kulps |
I look forward to being less new to koha |
04:22 |
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mtj |
here's my daily random git Q... |
04:24 |
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mtj |
in master/HEAD, when (and why) was the file 'installer/data/mysql/de-DE/mandatory/sysprefs.sql' deleted? |
04:25 |
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mtj |
ah, its been renamed from sysprefs.* to system_preferences.* |
04:25 |
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mtj |
ok, some tidying :) |
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eythian |
yes, there's your answer. |
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helps. |
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mtj |
ooooh, and now UPDATES only, no INSERTS :) |
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mtj |
click |
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BobB |
hi mtj, hi eythian |
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eythian |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, eythian |
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eythian |
wahanui: I'm not talking to you |
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wahanui |
eythian: huh? |
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BobB |
He'll never get that. |
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mtj |
heya bob |
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eythian |
wahanui: I'm not talking to you is <action>cries in the corner |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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BobB |
Hi Mason |
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eythian |
wahanui: I'm not talking to you |
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wahanui |
eythian: what? |
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eythian |
wahanui: I'm not talking to \you is <action>cries in the corner |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, eythian. |
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eythian |
no wahanui, \I'm not talking to \you is <action>cries in the corner |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, eythian. |
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eythian |
wahanui: I'm not talking to you |
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wahanui |
eythian: i'm not following you... |
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gives up |
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BobB |
Great start to the World Cup guys. Party time in Wellington? |
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is trying to avoid it as much as possible |
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BobB |
Impossible. :) |
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eythian |
It's possible to try to avoid it :) |
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im def. avoiding any world-cup stuff |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6496] authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6496> |
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mtj: I'm getting headachey from paint fumes, so I think I'm going to go and study XSLT and/or docbook for a while, away from the office. That patch may have to wait until tomorrow, but I expect it'll still work then. |
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yep, im still poking at it now, so it ain't done yet |
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hmm, is the newbie guide still being worked on? |
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once I've added items to the catalog, do I need to refresh the database to make them searchable? |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6636] a syspref to display 'powered by Koha' text to OPAC footer <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6636> |
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hello! |
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hi alex_a, julian and francharb |
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hi rangi |
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hello #koha |
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kia ora #koha |
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zipporah |
Friends out there, I am failing to Batch modify the "Ordered" to "Available" (blank) status on the so many books that were erroneously entered as such. Though changing to statuses like "Not for Loan" or "Staff Collection" is working fine. So what should I do? |
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zipporah |
By the way I using koha 3.2. |
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magnuse: I can see you are logged in. Would you be able to assist? |
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zipporah: sorry, i have no experience with batch modifications like that |
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magnuse: Thanks though. |
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zipporah |
Has anybody looked at my question? Any answers plse. |
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zipporah |
Friends out there, I am failing to Batch modify the "Ordered" to "Available" (blank) status on the so many books that were erroneously entered as such. Though changing to statuses like "Not for Loan" or "Staff Collection" is working fine. So what should I do? |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, zipporah. |
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wahanui: Can you assist? |
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wahanui |
no idea, zipporah |
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Thanks, I wait for some others to join in. |
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zipporah |
Friends out there, I am failing to Batch modify the "Ordered" to "Available" (blank) status on the so many books that were erroneously entered as such. Though changing to statuses like "Not for Loan" or "Staff Collection" is working fine. So what should I do? |
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i already had it that way, zipporah. |
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zipporah |
wahanui: Sorry I have received your message thought I ma not sure what you already had that way. Do you mean you had blank in that field? |
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wahanui |
no idea, zipporah |
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magnuse |
sorry zipporah, wahanui is just a bot trying to be friendly/clever ;-) |
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zipporah |
Good day magnuse. I remember I had posed this question yesterday and you assisted by telling me to check on the value 0. Though I put in the description instead of being blank, I still cannot batch modify from "ordered" whose value -1 to the value of 0 (zero). So what is the solution. |
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raj |
hi |
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wahanui |
bonjour, raj |
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raj |
i am getting error 500 |
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raj |
wen i go to more->tools->Upload patron images |
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raj |
Any help please |
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raj |
i am using Koha 3.02.00.004 |
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Oak |
kia ora #koha |
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zipporah |
magnuse: I am talking about the Authorized Values in Koha 3.2. |
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Oak |
magnuse |
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magnuse |
zipporah: i think i already told you i cant help you with that? it's quiet here now, not a lot of folks around, you might be better off sending an email to the list... |
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magnuse |
Oak |
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zipporah |
magnuse: I did but no response for a week now. Anyway let me re-email once more. |
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hi #koha |
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Oak |
Guten Tag cait :) |
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hi Oak :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6576] changing framework while cataloging looses data <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6576> |
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magnuse |
guten morgen cait |
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cait |
hi magnuse :) |
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kivilahtio |
I have trouble adding items data to my Koha 3.4. I have just emptied the biblio, items, biblioitems, auth_header, sessions and zebraqueue databases. Then reset the Zebra indexer with zebraidx -c /home/mason/koha/ashs/etc/zebradb/zebra-authorities- |
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kivilahtio |
dom.cfg -g iso2709 -d authorities init |
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kivilahtio |
zebraidx -c /home/mason/koha/ashs/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg -g iso2709 -d biblios init |
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kivilahtio |
and now i am again staging marc records with item data inside the 952 fields |
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kivilahtio |
I stage the records via the koha staff pages and it says items are succesfully staged |
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kivilahtio |
i do zebra indexing with flags -b -a |
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kivilahtio |
but I cannot find those items |
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magnuse |
did you import or just stage? not sure that's a relevant question, but it's the first thing i can think of... |
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kivilahtio |
yes |
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kivilahtio |
imported |
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kivilahtio |
then staged |
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kivilahtio |
items table in database is still empty |
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kivilahtio |
even if the staging says 11 items added |
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kivilahtio |
and zebra is reindexed |
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magnuse |
hm, that's weird |
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magnuse |
what subfields are you using for 952? |
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cait |
do you have $b and $a with a valid branchcode? |
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kivilahtio |
9,a,b,c,l,o,p,y |
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cait |
I filed a bug because koha reports success even when it's not correct |
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kivilahtio |
branchcodes are invalid |
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cait |
then there you go |
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kivilahtio |
but I previously imported the same items and they were succesfully imported even if branchcodes wereinvalid |
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cait |
$a and $b need to be a branchcode that is associated with a library in your branches table |
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kivilahtio |
branchcodes were reading 0001, even if no such branccode existed in koha |
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magnuse |
bug 6852 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6852 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Staged import reports wrong success for items with false branchcode |
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cait |
it should not import them if you don#t have the branchcode in your system |
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kivilahtio |
roger |
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kivilahtio |
that |
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kivilahtio |
was my next task anyway :D Thanks #Koha, you are irreplaceable as ever |
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kivilahtio: hope it helps :) |
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kivilahtio |
rangi: it was a post from the internets and didnt bother to replace mason to something else |
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kivilahtio |
rangi: so nothing illegal hapening here,... yet |
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rangi |
:) |
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rangi |
bug 6755 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages |
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rangi |
id fix that now, but im reinstalling my laptop and dont have x on it currently, so bit hard ;) |
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rangi |
what needs to be done is marcels patch rewritten slightly so it doesnt use themelanguage from C4::Output |
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rangi |
anyone willing to try? :) |
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rangi: time problem :( |
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rangi: I will try |
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rangi |
thanks fredericd |
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raj |
hi...when i go to more->tools->Upload patron images, i am getting error 500. |
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raj |
any suggestion to over come this |
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raj: I guess this is because you miss one library in PERL should be perlmagick or libimage-magick-perl |
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hdl |
more information should be provided in your koha apache logs. |
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hdl |
in var/log/koha-error_log |
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hi again #koha |
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Happy Monday #koha |
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oleonard: You're twisting my melon, man. |
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oleonard |
? |
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slef |
oleonard: STFW |
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slef |
you started it. Happy Monday indeed. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBi-LNM0Og |
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oleonard |
Whoa, nineties flashback. |
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druthb |
o/ |
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wizzyrea |
good, uh, morning |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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oleonard |
Any reason why we shouldn't approve the listing of Busara Core Solutions on the pay for support page? Requested Aug 26 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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waves at wizzyrea |
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druthb |
Lindsey has discovered that she is still a child; the childproof power cover thwarted her. |
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wizzyrea |
haha! |
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trea |
morning |
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o/ |
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druthb |
Hi, magnuse. :) |
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sekjal |
morning, everyone |
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magnuse |
kia ora western timezones |
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trea |
kia ora norway |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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druthb |
Just got news on nengard--her surgery was a success, and she's in recovery now. |
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magnuse |
2x yay! |
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wizzyrea |
yay! |
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oleonard |
paul_p: Could you update the previous patches on Bug 5725 and squash them? I get an error when trying to apply them because of the change to updatedatabase.pl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Batch modifications for Biblios |
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paul_p |
oleonard, ok, will do asap |
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oleonard |
Thanks |
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wizzyrea |
bleh, nothing on bug 3498. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments |
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kulps |
Good morning (for me anyway) #koha |
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wizzyrea |
mornin |
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kulps |
reading the buffer it looks like somebody else had a similar issue to me overnight, I added my first items to the catalog but am unable to search them. Do I need to manually force an index of Zebra? |
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wizzyrea |
every new koha user has that problem. |
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kulps |
hurray! I'm not alone. |
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wizzyrea |
searching faq? |
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wahanui |
searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
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kulps |
I searched the cataloging section |
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wizzyrea |
see #3 |
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wizzyrea |
typo, #4 |
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wizzyrea |
but yes, you're probably running into the fact that your zebra cron isn't running |
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kulps |
I'm glad to hear it's not insurmountable, I'm sad to see the answer was so readily available. |
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kulps |
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction |
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wizzyrea |
no worries, yw :) |
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wizzyrea |
we really ought to update that faq to indicate the (at least 2) other reasons that searching fails |
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kulps |
hmm, reading that I'm not really sure what I need to do (with the disclaimer that I'm not a proficient linux user) |
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wizzyrea |
well, first, try a forced index |
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sekjal |
oleonard: T:T style question, if you have a moment |
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oleonard |
Sure |
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kulps |
from within the gui or is there a script in the koha folder I should run?> |
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sekjal |
when doing a test for a variable's existence, I see our standard is [% ( condition ) %]. |
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sekjal |
are the parentheses necessary? |
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oleonard |
I don't know |
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sekjal |
I don't think necessarily are, functionality |
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sekjal |
err, functionally |
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sekjal |
but stylistically... |
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oleonard |
http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]anual/Syntax.html |
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oleonard |
I see examples of [% IF foo %] on that page |
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sekjal |
yes, reading that now |
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sekjal |
looks like it's not necessary, then |
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sekjal |
okay |
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sekjal |
I suppose this becomes a question of coding style |
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sekjal |
is it worth being a stickler about it, when there is no defined community style standard for it yet? |
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sekjal |
hmmm |
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oleonard |
I guess I'd say there's a defined standard based on what's in the templates now |
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wizzyrea |
though, remember the style was put there by a script |
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* oleonard |
bows to our machine overlords |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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sekjal |
perhaps my regex-fu isn't strong enough this morning, but I cannot find a counterexample to the convention in the current codebase |
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wizzyrea |
sounds like we've invented a standard for ourselves then :) |
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sekjal |
I'm all for standards |
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sekjal |
unfortunately, if we apply this one now, we'll have to send 3498 back for modification |
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sekjal |
it does not make use of parentheses in it's T:T IF's |
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sekjal |
seems a rather trivial thing to reject a patch over, though... |
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wizzyrea |
well, yes |
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sekjal |
perhaps I should just do the cleanup myself and resubmit the patch with my signoff |
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* wizzyrea |
looks at the patch |
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wizzyrea |
1s |
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* sekjal |
took a second to realize that was a "one" not and "L"... was about to list the connects of my current directory |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
yea, it's just those two files that don't use the parens |
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wizzyrea |
if you'd rather I can clean them up? |
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wizzyrea |
my libs really want it |
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wizzyrea |
to the point of sabre rattling |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea is a maverick. |
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wizzyrea |
! |
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oleonard |
...with your casual discarding of parentheses. |
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wizzyrea |
dude, wasn't my patch! |
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oleonard |
Oh, my mistake. You're an obedient conformist. |
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* wizzyrea |
scowls at being compared to John McCain. |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: if you were to add those parentheses in, I think it'd be safe to pass it through QA |
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kulps |
wizzyrea, should I see errors after running rebuild_zebra.pl? |
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* wizzyrea |
gets to work |
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sekjal |
most of it is new subroutines and scripts, and all the tests I'm hearing are positive. |
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* wizzyrea |
loves having selenium tests to run for this |
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wizzyrea |
best idea evar |
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wizzyrea |
and it passes with the parens. |
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* wizzyrea |
whips up a patch |
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sekjal |
wehoo! |
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hdl |
hi |
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Oak |
hello #koha |
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reiveune |
bye |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal: I squashed the IF updates, the documentation, and the original together |
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wizzyrea |
as a new patch |
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wizzyrea |
it's attached to the bug |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea++ |
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Bengard |
hello all |
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Bengard |
I'm here on behalf of Nicole Engard, who is even as we speak recovering from surgery |
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trea |
greetings Bengard |
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Oak |
Hello Bengard |
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wizzyrea |
please send her hugs |
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wizzyrea |
from kansas |
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wizzyrea |
well, if they don't hurt too much |
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Bengard |
will do |
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Oak |
tell her to get get well soon and take good care of her |
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wizzyrea |
if it does hurt, a gentle loving squeeze of the hand will do |
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Bengard |
she says thanks |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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Bengard |
been there, done that |
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Bengard |
but will go there again |
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Bengard |
she's trying out her first "meal" after surgery now |
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wizzyrea |
you snuck her in a cheeseburger right? |
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hdl |
Bengard: big hug from Marseille to her |
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Bengard |
she wouldn't eat a cheeseburger if I did! |
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Oak |
what is she having now? |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6755] Problems with switching languages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755> |
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wizzyrea |
etherpad? |
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wizzyrea |
hrmph. |
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wizzyrea |
anybody know where rangi stashed the k-c.org etherpad? |
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wizzyrea |
I guess it's this |
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wizzyrea |
http://etherpad.koha-community.org:9000/ |
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wizzyrea |
but it looks like it's broken |
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Bengard |
soup, I think |
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Oak |
hm |
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Oak |
soup is good |
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* oleonard |
didn't know about etherpad |
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wizzyrea |
it's neat |
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Bengard |
it's just chicken broth |
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rhcl |
wonder if he changed the default port? |
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rhcl |
Note: the port can be changed in etherpad-trunk/trunk/etherpad/etc/etherpad.localdev-default.properties. |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: yes, it seems prone crashing... I got that same error message last week when Chris showed it to me |
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sekjal |
he was able to fix it quickly, though |
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sekjal |
still on 9000 |
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hi #koha |
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fredericd |
cait: Would you mind testing bug 6755? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6755 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Problems with switching languages |
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cait |
fredericd: I can#t do it before thursday i fear :( |
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cait |
or perhaps wednesday - but not so likely |
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cait |
perhaps magnus_afk could? |
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trea |
o/ hi cait |
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cait |
hi trea |
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fredericd |
cait: or maybe rangi who has the circular dependency issue |
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fredericd |
who has 'found' |
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vfernandes |
hi Koha comunity :) |
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vfernandes |
it's possible to check which was the staff responsible to do some check out? |
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cait |
the logs should show it |
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cait |
if you have activated them |
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vfernandes |
my logs are all activated |
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cait |
vfernandes: then you can use tools > logs to find out |
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kulps |
does anybody know why koha-create --create-db lib would return "does not exist"? |
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magnus_afk |
kulps: |
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magnus_afk |
yup, it could be an error i made |
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magnus_afk |
have you got the most recent version of the script? |
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kulps |
yes |
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kulps |
well, I did the install an hour ago |
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kulps |
I assume it's pretty recent |
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magnus_afk |
check if line 118 says if [ "$configfile" != "" ] |
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magnus_afk |
if it doesn't it's fixed by this patch: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]45672c42a5359c5a4 |
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kulps |
# Load the configfile given on the command line |
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magnus_afk |
and then "if [ -e "$configfile" ]" |
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magnus_afk |
? |
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kulps |
yes |
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kulps |
sorry, the java paste was incomplete |
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magnus_afk |
that's the problem, then |
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kulps |
can I just edit it here or should I get the patch? |
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magnus_afk |
hm, i would get the patch, i think |
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kulps |
k |
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magnus_afk |
or update to the latest version from git - depends on how you are running things |
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kulps |
I'm not great with linux, so I'm currently reading how to use git to get that patch |
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kulps |
:) |
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magnus_afk |
the quick and (very) dirty way would be to just make sure koha-create looks like this around line 117: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/heads/3.4.x#l117 |
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magnus_afk |
depends on whether you are just "fooling around" or running things in production ;-) |
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kulps |
not production |
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kulps |
just trying to get it setup at all though |
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kulps |
I have the git clone going now |
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magnus_afk |
are you building your own packages or using the ones from debian.koha-community.org? |
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kulps |
I had compiled it this weekend since not everything says that 3.4.4 is available by package (and I wanted the latest... right) |
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kulps |
but then my indexing was fubared |
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kulps |
and when I went to rip it out I learned I had no zebra daemon |
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kulps |
anyway... |
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kulps |
the nice folks here told me that the deb package was up to date |
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kulps |
so I thouhgt I'd just start again |
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kulps |
and now I'm using the package |
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magnus_afk |
the fix for your problem was added to 3.4.x 9 days ago according to git, and the most recent package is probably slightly older than that |
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kulps |
neat, well I certainly don't begrudge having to do a little legwork to make it go, it's a lot better than building my own ILS |
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magnus_afk |
hehe, yeah! |
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magnus_afk |
what i would do then, if i were you, is to just fix koha-create by hand, and then it will be fixed for good next time you update the packages |
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kulps |
yeah? |
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kulps |
okay |
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kulps |
magnus_afk: I feel, and the system agrees, that I did this wrong http://pastebin.com/J0zTYKwW |
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magnus_afk |
kulps: yeah, it should be more like this: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]79031b1acb3c#l117 ;-) |
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kulps |
success |
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magnus_afk |
yay |
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kulps |
sorry to bother you with such trivial things |
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magnus_afk |
no problem! |
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kulps |
does koha-create also follow kohaadmin/katikoan or does it use another username/password? |
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magnus_afk |
username is koha_instancename |
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magnus_afk |
password is randomly generated |
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magnus_afk |
you will find it in the koha-config.xml of an instance |
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fredericd |
For those intersted, the state of my 'thinking' and test about splitting and shriking Koha Git repository: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_and_Shrinking |
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kulps |
magnus_afk, I tried to locate koha-config.xml and came up with nothing, did I miss a step somewhere? |
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magnus_afk |
i think it's in /etc/koha/sites/YOURSITE/ ? |
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kulps |
koha-conf.xml |
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kulps |
I was too literal |
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kulps |
:) |
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kulps |
great success |
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magnus_afk |
yay |
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magnus_afk |
the packages are awesome! |
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* magnus_afk |
looks out of the window http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/6140606719/ |
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wizzyrea |
gorgeous |
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wizzyrea |
great phot |
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wizzyrea |
o |
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magnus_afk |
thanks ;-) |
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* wizzyrea |
sets that as her desktop background |
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magnus_afk |
ooh ;-) |
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wizzyrea |
magnuse: http://screencast.com/t/t0qIPvyCo |
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wizzyrea |
awfully purty |
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cait |
oh! |
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* oleonard-away |
wonders about the icon on wizzyrea's menu bar which turns red when it's time for another glass of wine |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
actually that's wine for mac |
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wizzyrea |
wine is not an emulator, you know |
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* oleonard-away |
did not know that |
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slef |
wine? |
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wahanui |
wine is not usually the best for programming :) |
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magnus_afk |
very cool, wizzyrea :-) |
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trea |
"don't su after 2", as they say. |
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magnus_afk |
who says? |
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trea |
well, people who don't like to sysadmin under the influence apparently. :P |
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magnus_afk |
ah :-) |
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trea |
buncha teetotalers:P |
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magnus_afk |
hmf |
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trea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
frankly, after 2, I'm probably not thinking about work at all anymore. |
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magnus_afk |
am or pm? |
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wizzyrea |
2 drinks :) |
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magnus_afk |
a ha! |
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wizzyrea |
no su after two (drinks) |
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trea |
or what have you |
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magnus_afk |
gotcha! |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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* libsysguy |
wanders in...its so quiet |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* busy workin :) |
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libsysguy |
sekjal have you seen bug 6431 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6431 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW , New Circulation modules for Hourly Circulation |
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cait |
hi libsysguy and sekjal :) |
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libsysguy |
hey cait :) |
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libsysguy |
how do I link borrowers to biblios |
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libsysguy |
is it issues? |
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wizzyrea |
what are you trying to ascertain? |
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libsysguy |
i am running a report to get the amount of fines per patron...which i stole from the wiki...but I want to put in the description of the item |
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libsysguy |
but I can't really find the description field either lol |
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cait |
description of th item? |
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wizzyrea |
well issues will have an itemnumber |
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cait |
do you mean the title of the book? |
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wizzyrea |
with itemnumber you can get bibnumber |
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libsysguy |
Margo said she wanted the item description? |
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cait |
there is no field with that name |
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cait |
not sure what she meant |
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wizzyrea |
probably title/author |
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wizzyrea |
sec |
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cait |
the barcode, the title of the item, some other field? |
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libsysguy |
me either...im asking |
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wizzyrea |
that's what my peeps always want |
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wizzyrea |
probably something like items.itemnumber, biblio.title, biblio.author, items.itemcallnumber, |
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wizzyrea |
items.barcode, |
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libsysguy |
ohh i think she just wanted the note |
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wizzyrea |
the patron note? |
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wizzyrea |
or the bib note |
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libsysguy |
bib note? and the description of charges |
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cait |
public note or opac note from items? |
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wizzyrea |
there are tons of notes all over the place |
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libsysguy |
i think it might be the issues note? |
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wizzyrea |
no note in issues |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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libsysguy |
where is the description of charges held? |
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libsysguy |
maybe it is close to there |
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wizzyrea |
accountlines I think |
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wizzyrea |
accountlines.note |
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libsysguy |
ah ha there is a description in there |
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wizzyrea |
right, note is the bit you type in |
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wizzyrea |
yea, description is what you want |
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wizzyrea |
stuff like "Ars Magica /OVERDUE" |
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wizzyrea |
is in my data |
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libsysguy |
apparently I need note and description |
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libsysguy |
both of those fields are populated |
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wizzyrea |
yea, note is generated by the librarian |
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wizzyrea |
something they type in |
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wizzyrea |
somewhere along the line |
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libsysguy |
I have stuff like OVERDUE fine migrated from Unicorn on Letter to my daughter / (0000001865062) in descripton |
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wizzyrea |
yea, it looks like a lot of that depends on how it is migrated in |
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libsysguy |
yeah I think so too |
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* wizzyrea |
wonders what native koha descriptions look like, if anything |
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wizzyrea |
looks like: Dora's slumber party! 09/08/2011 |
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wizzyrea |
Payment, thanks is another one |
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wizzyrea |
heh |
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cait |
in other words: evil untranslatable stuff :( |
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maximep |
who setup jenkins.koha-community.org ? Id be curious to have a look at the config |
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maximep |
because theres chances we will setup one internally for testing koha |
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wizzyrea |
rangi I think |
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rhcl |
so wizzyrea: you gonna apply for the job in Se? |
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wizzyrea |
that's really tempting, but I'm cool I think :) |
18:54 |
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wizzyrea |
(really, it is.) |
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wizzyrea |
(and I don't speak swedish) |
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rhcl |
I think it would be a great opportunity. |
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rhcl |
So you learn Sweedish. How hard can it be? I learned Korean. |
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wizzyrea |
beyond Tack så mycket |
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rhcl |
And to work on a project standing up something fantastically interesting like a "global center of maritime information". |
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wizzyrea |
maybe you should apply ;) |
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rhcl |
I ain't a librarian. I'm a sysadmin. |
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wizzyrea |
technicality, really. |
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rhcl |
Besides, I want to go work in Norway where I can go fishing in magnuse's pond and eat reindeer steak. |
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magnuse |
yay |
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Danielle |
That I was a sysadmin and not a librarian is why I switched jobs in 1999-2000. |
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* magnuse |
doesn't have a pond |
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magnuse |
i'm not sure you need swedish for that job at the maritime university |
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trea |
yea, only asks for strong english skills |
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wizzyrea |
but you know |
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wizzyrea |
when in sweden |
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wizzyrea |
speak swedish? |
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wizzyrea |
idk |
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kulps |
hmmm, is it a known issue that a marc record not marked as mandatory would throw an error when left blank during item creation? |
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rhcl |
The job requirements list does include a lot of sysadmin stuff... |
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wizzyrea |
see? you should totally apply ;) |
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rhcl |
tempting thought...tempting.... |
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magnuse |
i'm sure you could figure out the librarian bits as you go along! |
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rhcl |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/6140606719/ <-- pond, big pond |
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magnuse |
aka "the ocean" |
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magnuse |
;-) |
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rhcl |
yea, and I'd be interviewing, and they'd ask what information goes in the 355 field, and I'd say something like "rare, medium, or well-done". |
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wizzyrea |
@marc 355 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Specifics pertaining to the security classification associated with the document, title, abstract, contents note, and/or the author. In addition, it can contain handling instructions and external dissemination information pertaining to the dissemination of the document, title, abstract, contents note, and author. The field may also contain downgrading or declassification data, the name of the (1 more message) |
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wizzyrea |
see, easy enough. |
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* wizzyrea |
starts a campaign to convince you |
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rhcl |
Ah, Ok, so that has "Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret" |
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rhcl |
It is the sort of position you'd like to hear about a year in advance, so you could study up on the subject... |
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* oleonard |
checks his email and finally understands what everyone was talking about |
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magnuse |
did you see that job at the world maritime uni, btw? |
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oleonard |
yes, that |
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* magnuse |
wrote that in the wrong window... |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
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paul_p |
hello magnuse |
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magnuse |
paul_p: how far is the nuclear spill from marseille? |
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paul_p |
about 100km |
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wizzyrea |
nuclear spill! |
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magnuse |
that's not too much! |
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* wizzyrea |
has not read the news today |
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kulps |
when I try and create an item for a biblio record I get the following message, 1 mandatory fields empty (see bold subfields), when I check the marc structure, the bolded subfiels is not listed as mandatory. If I ignore the subfield and try to add the item again it errors on another subfield that is also not listed as mandatory. Any thoughts? |
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cait |
nuclear spill??!! |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/[…]uclear/index.html |
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wizzyrea |
looks like more of a "problem at a nuclear plant that doesn't involve radioactivity" |
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wizzyrea |
but I admit that's the first article I've looked at |
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magnuse |
i only read the headline, i see it says no spill, but a fear of loosing control of the sitatuin |
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magnuse |
s/sitatuin/situation/ |
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rangi |
kulps: haven't seen that before, default framework? |
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rangi |
and what is the first subfield its complaining about? |
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kulps |
as default as can be trusted after my failed attempt to compile myself |
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kulps |
copy note |
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kulps |
then call number |
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kulps |
all in 995 |
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kulps |
I just built it this morning using the debian package |
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kulps |
magnuse helped me quite a lot |
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magnuse |
kulps: marc21 or unimarc? |
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cait |
995 - are you using unimarc and the packages? |
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kulps |
yes |
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kulps |
should I change to marc21, I wasn't really sure, I read that unimarc was better for multicountry and was having trouble finding entries with my last build (which I used marc21 for) |
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magnuse |
hm, not sure how much that has been tested... |
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kulps |
I had no solid reason to chose either one, if marc21 is more stable I'll happily go back to it |
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wizzyrea |
where are you, kulps? |
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wizzyrea |
(marc21 is "american marc") |
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kulps |
canada |
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magnuse |
i think in connection with the packages, marc21 has been tested more than unimarc, but both should be pretty stable, and i can't think why unimarc would not work i the packages... |
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rangi |
canada uses, a |
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rangi |
marc21 |
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kulps |
noted |
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kulps |
can I easily change or do I have to re-setup? |
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rangi |
you'd have to ask someone from france about unimarc, but theres no reason it shouldn't work with the packages |
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rangi |
but I dont know the framework set up so dont know what is or isnt mandatory |
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kulps |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ruary/027571.html |
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kulps |
does this entry seem correct? |
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kulps |
I dont mind dropping and rebuilding the instance, since I've only got 2 records in it |
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rangi |
id do that |
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kulps |
alright, will do |
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kulps |
eventually I'll get this right! |
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magnuse |
kulps: you will, and that is a great feeling! ;-) |
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kulps |
I've been wondering, how big is the biggest koha deployment? |
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wizzyrea |
pretty big, a million + bibs |
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rangi |
9 mill |
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rangi |
in venezuala |
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wizzyrea |
x9 apparently |
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libsysguy |
0_0 |
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libsysguy |
o.m.g |
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wizzyrea |
there you have it :) |
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rangi |
national library |
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rangi |
doesn't do much circ |
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rangi |
amount of circ is the interesting thing |
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wizzyrea |
9 million bibs? |
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rangi |
ie how much stuff changes |
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rangi |
I have a zebra with 30mil records in it |
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rangi |
its not a worry |
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rangi |
its transactions that put load on |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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libsysguy |
writing locks the tables :'( |
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magnuse |
Biblioteca Nacional de Venezuela http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]library.pl?RC=927 |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: 30 million records? Wow! |
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kulps |
neat |
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kulps |
just curious, again, most users? |
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rangi |
libsysguy: actually innodb row locks |
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rangi |
writes are ok |
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wizzyrea |
wait it says 7 million volumes |
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rangi |
its actually apache that suffers |
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oleonard |
They must have done a smidge of weeding |
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rangi |
ah I might have misremembered |
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rangi |
kulps: we have no idea, its all self reported |
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rangi |
there are thousands of users we know of, and highly likely thousands more we dont |
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wizzyrea |
but we do know that BNV has 7 million volumes, and that's quite a lot |
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wizzyrea |
and they do in fact run koha, so there's that. |
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rangi |
id guess delhi public is busy |
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wizzyrea |
oo yea |
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cait |
night all |
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wizzyrea |
gnite cait |
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rangi |
cya cait |
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magnuse |
is the bnv catalogue public? i tried to find it a while ago, but had no luck |
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rangi |
could email them magnuse |
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magnuse |
yeah, didn't get that far... |
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jcamins_away |
magnuse: it was at one point. I remember looking at it. |
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magnuse |
jcamins_away: cool! |
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jcamins_away |
magnuse: no idea where, though. |
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jcamins_away |
magnuse: it's a little strange looking. |
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talljoy |
is there active development on an 'Advanced Patron Search' functionality |
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talljoy |
? |
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wizzyrea |
define advanced patron search? |
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talljoy |
search by address or phone number |
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wizzyrea |
like, searching on extended attributes? |
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wizzyrea |
I thought there was... sec |
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talljoy |
i found an 'abandoned RFC' for it in the wiki. |
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wizzyrea |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6253 |
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huginn |
Bug 6253: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine |
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wizzyrea |
by bywater, no less. |
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* talljoy |
feels abit chagrined for not asking there first......oops |
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wizzyrea |
hehe don't |
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talljoy |
lol. those guys are so busy. hate to bother them some times. |
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sekjal |
talljoy: there is the "unified patron search subroutine" work, which is in testing |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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sekjal |
and there is also "advanced patron search" |
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sekjal |
which is something else |
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sekjal |
MassCat paid for a feature to do that, and they're interested in getting it back now that that particular bit of code has been released |
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talljoy |
what is unified patron search versus advanced patron search? |
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wizzyrea |
sekjal do you know the bug for the advanced patron search |
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wizzyrea |
oh it's one of THOSe |
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talljoy |
? |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: I'm not sure the bug report (if there ever was one) |
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wizzyrea |
k |
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* wizzyrea |
will have a poke-see |
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sekjal |
talljoy: unified search routine is just to make the existing search we have work consistently in different contexts. right now there are two routines, each doing it a little different |
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sekjal |
advanced search would introduce a new page with more search fields, and also a means for bulk-editing of patrons |
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jcamins_away |
I think RHCL was talking about that advanced search feature. |
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* oleonard |
is surprised to see searching and editing linked as goals, but would be happy to see both |
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sekjal |
oleonard: they were part of the same contracted development, even though they are distinct features |
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sekjal |
all in one commit together |
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pastebot |
"rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "for maximep" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/34 |
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rangi |
magnuse: you saw the job in sweden eh? |
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magnuse |
rangi: yup, but i think i'll try and stick with libriotech a little longer... ;-) |
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rangi |
i just thought you might know someone ;) |
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magnuse |
ah yes, well developer-librarians are few and far between in this neck of the woods |
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rangi |
hmm cait |
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rangi |
:) |
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magnuse |
there was a somewhat similar position in stavanger in the south west of norway not too long ago |
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* magnuse |
did suggest it to cait, yes... ;-) |
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rangi |
:) |
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rhcl |
My TS supervisor wants to do reports on item record notes. |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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druthb |
\o |
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'o' |
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druthb |
\o/ |
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druthb |
^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
we're gonna stay at the " \o/ ^o^ /o/ /o\ |
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rangi |
heya druthb |
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druthb |
hi, rangi. :D |
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wizzyrea: is that a regex? |
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wizzyrea |
lol no |
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libsysguy |
well thats disappointing :p |
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* druthb |
thinks libsysguy is TOO YOUNG to understand the reference. |
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libsysguy |
awww |
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maximep |
wow, got it after u said he was too young haha |
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druthb |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]I&feature=related |
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wizzyrea |
for you whippersnappers. |
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rangi |
hi fcapo |
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fcapo |
hi |
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rangi |
3498 is in the wild .. or at least in master |
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* wizzyrea |
cheers |
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rangi |
http://soundcloud.com/dashtota[…]-totald-tea-party <-- to celebrate |
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rhcl |
Speaking of regex, I casually wonder if rexx might not have some value with generating reports in Koha? Maybe sometime when my tech assistant is lesser employed I'll sic it on him as a research project. |
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* libsysguy |
wishes hourly was in master so he could track it again |
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rangi |
libsysguy: checkout -b my_hourly kc/new/awaiting_qa/bug_5549 |
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rangi |
git merge kc/master |
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rangi |
(substitute kc for origin or whatevere you call upstream) |
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libsysguy_class |
ohh I can merge |
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libsysguy_class |
doh |
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rangi |
do it on a test machine first of course ;) |
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wizzyrea |
backups! |
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wahanui |
backups are every night...and nothing changed this morning |
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libsysguy_class |
right right...they might killme if i break prod again |
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libsysguy_class |
ok gotta run |
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libsysguy_class |
later #Koha |
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wizzyrea |
byee |
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rangi |
cya libsysguy_class |
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sekjal |
so, if y'all wanted to browse authority records in the OPAC (or staff client, whichever), what info would you want to see about an authority? |
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rhcl |
An OPAC would primarily be for patron's right? I'm thinking patrons might not really need to see much from the authority records? |
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sekjal |
it would serve could serve as a thesaurus for broader, narrower, related and obsolete terms |
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kulps |
ladies and gents, it looks like I've got a basic, but working, install |
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rhcl |
congrats! |
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kulps |
I only have one record in, but it's searchable, it pulls the amazon jacket and doesn't throw errors when adding records |
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wizzyrea |
yay! |
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kulps |
now I just need to go home and catalog the rest |
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rhcl |
well, what more could you possibly want? |
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kulps |
a better understanding of all the other features I'm not yet using |
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kulps |
:) |
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magnuse |
kulps++ |
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rangi |
!jenkins build koha_master now |
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rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
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!jenkins build koha_master now |
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rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/r[…]9-000km-off-track |
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wizzyrea |
hehe! |
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magnuse |
heh |
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magnuse |
not sure i'd want my face in the paper along with that story... |
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kulps |
it's not exactly a good reflection on ones self, hey... |
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rangi |
nengard!!! how you doing? |
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nengard |
pretty darn good |
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rangi |
yay! |
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wizzyrea |
have you had your first walk with the new hip? |
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nengard |
they got me up to walk and the first time i thought i'd die ? the second i walked up and down the hall |
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wizzyrea |
oooo |
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nengard |
::) |
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nengard |
am a bit drugged adn typing funny |
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wizzyrea |
dying = bad |
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nengard |
but wanted to say hi to you a.l |
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nengard |
all |
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wizzyrea |
but making it the 2nd time |
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wizzyrea |
= good |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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nengard |
Brooke came to see me!!! she's awesom |
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nengard |
awesome |
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nengard |
Brooke++ |
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wizzyrea |
lol put down the keyboard |
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wizzyrea |
have a rest :) |
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* magnuse |
waves to nengard |
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wizzyrea |
but, i'm super glad you are feeling well so far |
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* nengard |
waves back |
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nengard |
everyone left to get dinner |
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nengard |
so i'm alone |
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wizzyrea |
oooo |
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nengard |
and wanted to say hi to my other family |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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nengard |
they'll be back soon |
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nengard |
and then i'll close the laptop and sleep |
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rangi |
you could rescue my plants in monsterworld |
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rangi |
that would be better than working ;) |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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nengard |
rangi i'm not working |
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rangi |
good |
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nengard |
i'm talking to you all :) |
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* magnuse |
wishes #koha a good night (or other time of the day) |
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rangi |
cya magnuse |
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nengard |
okay alll my eyes don't want to stay open |
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nengard |
i'll talk to you all later |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6458' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d1e49ccf45b19ab69> / Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a84b7c17b7b905d1> / Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / suggestion <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? |
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sekjal |
oooh, fun Friday idea (coming at you a few days early): |
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wizzyrea |
rangi is there a wiki page for the HTP -> TT conversion process? I couldn't find it |
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rangi |
nope |
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rangi |
there were a bunch of emails tho |
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wizzyrea |
cool, i'll just grab your mail message and slap it in one then |
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rangi |
yep |
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sekjal |
strip down the borrowers table to the bare minimum of system-required information (name, cardnumber, branchcode, category code, dateexpiry, flags, etc) |
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sekjal |
and move all the contact and other info into the borrowers Authority Record |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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sekjal |
much more extensible |
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sekjal |
can be wired to other people in more than just a "guarantor/guarantee" relationship |
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sekjal |
great for academic institutions where many professors are authors of works kept by the library |
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chobbs |
Hi all! Why must LDAP be so frustrating :) I had it working before. Now I'm getting the error reported in bug 6823, but fankly the submitter's claim that he solved it on the LDAP side makes little sense. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6823 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, ldap auth broken in 3.5.10 master |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]-to-tt-conversion |
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rangi |
chobbs: the guy had 2 issues going on |
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chobbs |
Not sure how a weird LDAP server configuration makes Koha report an "Undefined subroutine" error. |
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rangi |
the real problem |
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wahanui |
the real problem is using squid as a reverse proxy .... thats a bad idea :) |
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rangi |
no that was unrelated |
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sekjal |
chobbs: this was as problem with CAS authentication bugfix, which has subsequently been pulled |
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wizzyrea |
forget the real problem |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot real problem |
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* sekjal |
chuckles at wahanui |
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rangi |
his real problem someone had changed the the ldap setup on server side, and his mapping was busted |
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chobbs |
wow, I sure hope that's a bot :) |
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rangi |
that checkpw_ldap was a red herring, and yes the commit causing it has been pulled |
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rangi |
so latest master is clean |
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chobbs |
But how does a busted mapping result in an undefined subroutine? And can I back that out in my git repo? |
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chobbs |
So if I update git I should be good as well? |
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sekjal |
chobbs: yes |
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chobbs |
I'm off to git it :) |
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sekjal |
update, and ye shall be cured! |
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wizzyrea |
lkater peps |
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rangi |
chobbs: it doesnt result in an undef subroutine |
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rangi |
like i say, that was unrelated to his real problem |
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* sekjal |
is having a bit of fun figuring out how to fix up authorities |
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sekjal |
make them first-class citizens of the ILS |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4945] Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4945> / [Bug 5226] MARC21 field 545 missing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5226> |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6651 - fix splitting of names when updating to 3.4 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9609d8aae62d23fb5> / Fix for Bug 6609, Clean up guided reports dictionary entry process <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]458fbf1034f52c734> |
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Project Koha_master build #408: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 24 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/408/ |
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* ian.walls: Enh 6165: Add OPACResultsSidebar system preference |
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* Chris Cormack: Bumpding database version |
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* ian.walls: Bug 6860: SyndeticsClientCode improperly scoped on many OPAC pages |
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* ian.walls: Bug 6863: Shelf Browser images not showing up |
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* ian.walls: Bug 6861: Fast Add returns to circ/circulation.pl in all cases |
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* robin: Bug 6857: display a charge warning alert for reserves |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6860 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , syndetics covers not showing on search results or shelf browse |
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* nengard: Follow up to Bug 6857: Change language from 'reserve' to 'hold' |
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* meenakshi.r: Bug id:6783 - Circulation restrictions dont work when other withdrawn reasons are used |
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* magnus: Bug 6517 - [REVISED] koha-create wants "use database" in DEFAULTSQL |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Document Borrowers Table |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6863 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , covers missing from shelf browse for various services |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - MySQL definition for authorised values table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - MySQL Table Documentation - Biblio Table |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6861 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Fast Add returns to circulation page in all cases |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: While testing the commits for 6716 I discovered a couple of missing |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Deleted Borrowers MySQL |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6857 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Show a warning if placing a reserve will incur a cost |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6517 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , koha-create wants "use database" in DEFAULTSQL |
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* Chris Cormack: Adding the 155th developer to the history |
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* colin.campbell: Bug 3498 [ENH] Allow Partial Payment of Fines |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3498 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Allow partial fine payments |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Deleted Biblio Table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Branch table documentation |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 Documenting two Branch Group tables |
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* nengard: Bug6716 - File Cleanup |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Borrower Attributes Tables |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Cities Table Documentation |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Issues Table Documentation |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Statistics Table Documentation |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Definition of the branchcategories table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716: DB Documentation for the branchrelations table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716: Documentation for the itemtypes table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716: Documentation for the letter table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Document opac_news table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Definition for the overduerules table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Document reviews table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Document roadtype table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Document the systempreferences table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Documentation for the fieldmapping table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Documentation for the messages table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Document z3950servers table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Documents the virtual shelves tables |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Document subscriptionroutinglist table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Document holiday tables |
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* nengard: Bug 6716 - Define reports_dictionary table |
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* nengard: Bug 6716: Document suggestions DB table |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 409 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 25 j ago) |
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chobbs |
rangi and sekjal, thanks for the assist. I have LDAP sort of working. |
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sekjal |
chobbs: glad to hear! |
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Project Koha_3.4.x build #42: SUCCESS in 1 h 22 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/42/ |
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* brett: bug 6724: enable decimals on values greater than 1 |
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* Chris Cormack: Updating about file and history doc |
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* Chris Cormack: Bug 6732 : Showing the bibliographic title on the manual invoices line |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6724 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, brett, ASSIGNED , Holds Ratio does not allow decimals |
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* Chris Cormack: Bug 6555 : only 10 lists show in the staff client |
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* Chris Cormack: Bug 6665 : TT problem was preventing AdvancedMARCEditor pref from working when cataloguing |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6732 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Missing Title for Manual Invoice |
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* Chris Cormack: Follow up for 6665 : Fixing the hide_marc pref also |
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* ian.walls: Bug 6256: Many bib1 attributes missing |
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* f.demians: Bug 6750 Guarantor search broken on translated templates |
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* m.de.rooy: 6256 Follow up fixing typo |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6555 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , only 10 lists in pull down when adding from a bib record |
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* robin: Bug 5602 - [3.4.x] Rewrite of package building script |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6665 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , advancedMARCeditor preference not functioning |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6256 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Many bib1 attributes missing |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5602 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Improve configurability of package building scripts |
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chobbs |
Oddly, one patron (me) can log in with LDAP (confirmed by changing my koha password to something differnet. But a different (student) patron cannot log in to OPAC with LDAP, but can with Koha pw. |
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sekjal |
chobbs: hmmm, interesting mystery. love to help, but I've got to dash |
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chobbs |
sekjal: no worries :) |
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kulps |
Hey folks, where can I learn about the marc framework? I tried to add a book, but the z39.50 lookup didnt return a control number identifier, I'd like to be able to correct issues like this on my own insteaf of having to ask/lookup all the time. Are there any good "marc21 for newbies" guides available? |
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rangi |
kulps: nope |
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rangi |
marc21 is designed to be inscrutable, retarded and extremely annoying |
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rangi |
but its the current standard, so we have to live with it |
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rangi |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/faq.html <-- is about the best there is |
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kulps |
hmm |
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kulps |
I found that and thought I fell through a timewarp |
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kulps |
it doesnt look like it's ever been maintained... |
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kulps |
if that's it though, I guess I give it a shot. |
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rangi |
welcome to library standards |
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kulps |
poor MILS students... getting graded on systems so annoying. |
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rangi |
its the standards that are the problem, they constrain what the systems can do |
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rangi |
if you really want to despair, read up on RDA |
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kulps |
is it a deprecated standard? |
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rangi |
nope |
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rangi |
its the new cataloguing standard, designed to replace AARC2 |
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rangi |
hey trea |
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trea |
hey rangi |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #409: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/409/ |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing - doc-head-close/open.inc |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / overdue.tt |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / review.tt |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / authorities.tt |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / 3x reports/... |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing - masthead.inc |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / opac-detail.tt |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing - rotating_collections/... |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6458: Incorrect translation processing / serials/... |
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* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6609, Clean up guided reports dictionary entry process |
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* robin: Bug 6651 - fix splitting of names when updating to 3.4 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6609 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Clean up guided reports dictionary entry process |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6651 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , koha-upgrade-to-3.4 fails when multiple instances are present |
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