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kulps |
would it be a bad idea to remove the "mandatory" flag from most of the marc framework fields? |
| 00:27 |
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kulps |
Since my library is currently just for me, I don't know I need all the "required" information |
| 00:28 |
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kulps |
keep maybe the author, title, isbn and item type as required |
| 00:28 |
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kulps |
let the rest just come in as it does? |
| 00:32 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5473] 952 fields should be filled in by Acquisitions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5473> |
| 00:34 |
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eythian |
There aren't many that are mandatory as it is, are there? |
| 00:35 |
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eythian |
I'd leave the ones that are <010 as mandatory, parts of things may expect them to be there. I think other than that it's fair game really. |
| 00:35 |
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rangi |
you could if you liked, you would be making invalid marc records tho, which may come back to bite you in the future |
| 00:35 |
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rangi |
what he said |
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eythian |
oh, the item type one (942$something) is probably worth keeping, too |
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kulps |
hmm, my javachat seems to have cycled since I was afk, not sure if anybody answered if it was a bad idea to clear the flags. |
| 00:49 |
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eythian |
kulps: |
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eythian |
<eythian> There aren't many that are mandatory as it is, are there? |
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eythian |
<eythian> I'd leave the ones that are <010 as mandatory, parts of things may expect them to be there. I think other than that it's fair game really. |
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eythian |
<rangi> you could if you liked, you would be making invalid marc records tho, which may come back to bite you in the future |
| 00:49 |
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eythian |
<rangi> what he said |
| 00:49 |
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eythian |
<eythian> oh, the item type one (942$something) is probably worth keeping, too |
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kulps |
yeah, I dont plan to make my own records, only pull from the canadian library |
| 00:54 |
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kulps |
the records I would make would be invalid anyway |
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kulps |
I was hoping to use Koha as a bit of an asset tracker |
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kulps |
so if I had an item type for "asset" and used author as manfactureur, title as model, isbn as serial number |
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kulps |
it's a bit screwy, I admit, but I like the idea of keeping it all in a database |
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eythian |
It's a little screwy, but you could make it work to some degree I expect. |
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eythian |
If you're willing to accept that sometimes you may be pushing a bit against the grain of how it expects to work. |
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kulps |
I really want to use Koha to manage my books, because it sure beats typing it out by hand |
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kulps |
maybe I should bite the bullet and look for a personal asset manager... |
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kulps |
hmmm |
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kulps |
just ideas. |
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kulps |
Thanks for entertaining them none the less! |
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mtj |
yow, crazy hail in wgtn |
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eythian |
yeah. we just missed it. |
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eythian |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]pounds-Wellington <-- good to see the news is on top of it |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_6716' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3269e844ce7431ed1> / Bug 6716 couple of little typos <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]12e40e059850c0ee4> |
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Starting build 410 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 25 j ago) |
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rangi |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]es/borrowers.html |
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rangi |
if you toggle the comments on, you can see the comments that nicole has been putting in |
| 02:58 |
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wizzyrea |
oh that is top notch |
| 02:58 |
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rangi |
thanks to eythian for rediscovering schemaspy and nicole for putting comments on things |
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rangi |
http://schema.koha-community.org/index.html |
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wizzyrea |
word |
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rangi |
i just have to get the table level comments showing and all good |
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eythian |
that looks pretty good with those comments. |
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rangi |
yeah |
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wizzyrea |
eff yea it does |
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wizzyrea |
eythian++ nengard++ |
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rangi |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]ables/biblio.html |
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rangi |
handy |
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wizzyrea |
hawt |
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wizzyrea |
hawt hawt hawt |
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wizzyrea |
omg hot. |
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eythian |
oh, that will be handy alright |
| 02:59 |
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rangi |
heh |
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eythian |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]tables/items.html <-- even handier, when done :) |
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wizzyrea |
aw yea |
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rangi |
yep items not done yet |
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wizzyrea |
but even so |
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wizzyrea |
is super |
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rangi |
i have a job to keep it up to date |
| 03:01 |
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rangi |
so as new comments are added on bug 6716 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation |
| 03:01 |
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rangi |
it will get better and better |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* supergood |
| 03:01 |
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wizzyrea |
so many people looking for exactly this data |
| 03:03 |
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wizzyrea |
eythian are you on the twitterz or identica? |
| 03:04 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: yeah, on identi.ca |
| 03:04 |
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eythian |
Not that I use it terribly often. I'm a terrible blogger, micro or otherwise. |
| 03:04 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
what's your handle? |
| 03:05 |
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wizzyrea |
i always feel super nerdy when I say handle. |
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eythian |
@eythian |
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huginn |
eythian: I suck |
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eythian |
tricky, no |
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eythian |
huginn: it's OK |
| 03:10 |
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huginn |
eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 03:11 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
bot vs human, fight! |
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eythian |
http://www.geeksaresexy.net/20[…]-cleverbot-fight/ <-- I am not a robot. I am a unicorn. |
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wizzyrea |
i saw that... laughed and laughed |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #410: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/410/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: Bug 6716 couple of little typos |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Database Documentation |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
https://yfrog.com/ny84714183j |
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wizzyrea |
tee hee |
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Judit |
hello |
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eythian |
So you say. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6360] all messages on checkin should have sounds if soundson <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6360> |
| 04:35 |
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Judit |
might be a stupid question but is it possible that i dont have ceilingdudate and globalduedate in my syspref |
| 04:37 |
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eythian |
It seems quite possible. |
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eythian |
They don't exist in mine either. |
| 04:38 |
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Judit1 |
you broke it! |
| 04:38 |
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Judit1 |
why is that |
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eythian |
are they supposed to exist? |
| 04:39 |
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Judit1 |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=c18#circprefs |
| 04:40 |
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Judit1 |
yes, i am on 3.4 |
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Judit1 |
shame on me |
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eythian |
you're spelling them wrong |
| 04:42 |
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Judit1 |
if i search for DueDate |
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Judit1 |
i receive only SpecifyDueDate |
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eythian |
but I can't find mention of them in the preferences file anyway |
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eythian |
and I'm looking on master |
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rangi |
they were moved in master |
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eythian |
there's reference to them in the code |
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eythian |
C4/Circulation.pm: $datedue = C4::Dates->new( C4::Context->preference('globalDueDate') ); |
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rangi |
look in localuse |
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eythian |
not there either |
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Judit1 |
not there |
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eythian |
installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl: $dbh->do("DELETE FROM `systempreferences` WHERE variable = 'globalDueDate' OR variable = 'ceilingDueDate'"); |
| 04:45 |
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rangi |
yep |
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eythian |
they've been removed |
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rangi |
git show e57dadf762101cfb7371c3d2c93e8163a2ace69f |
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eythian |
although no one removed the code that references them |
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Judit1 |
removed from 3.4? |
| 04:45 |
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rangi |
you define them in the circ rules |
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Judit1 |
but still in the manual |
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Judit1 |
hm |
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mtj |
eythian: thanx for looking at my patch today |
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eythian |
no problem |
| 04:47 |
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rangi |
bug 5548 |
| 04:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5548 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, RESOLVED FIXED, Hard Due Dates Circ Rule |
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Judit1 |
okay |
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Judit1 |
i see |
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Brooke |
I realise it's nearly beer o'clock |
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Brooke |
but nengard is relatively fine. |
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Judit1 |
in circ rules there is a Hard Due date |
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Judit1 |
themanual is wrong this time, not me |
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Judit1 |
thank you! |
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Brooke |
People that write documentation are flawless goddesses that are never, ever wrong. |
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rangi |
Brooke: she's been on irc already, and gchat :) |
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Brooke |
rangi: I know, but you might be worried that she's being macho :P |
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Brooke |
Judit, what section and subsection and stuff? |
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rangi |
id accuse nengard of lots of things, being macho would never be one |
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* Brooke |
snorts. |
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Judit1 |
Broke i know they are flawless and never, ever wrong :) |
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Judit1 |
that is why i like them |
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Judit1 |
and manuals |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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Brooke |
guten morgen |
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Judit1 |
so |
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Judit1 |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=c18#circprefs |
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* Brooke |
heads for bid before Cait nags her... |
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Judit1 |
1.1.5.1.6 |
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Judit1 |
and 1.1.5.1.8 globalDueDate |
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Judit1 |
1.1.5.1.6. ceilingDueDate |
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Judit1 |
are no longer in Koha- 3.4 |
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Judit1 |
but still in the manual for Koha 3.4 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_the_Koha_Manual |
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rangi |
send a patch |
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Judit1 |
brooke asked me to state it here |
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Judit1 |
okay i send it to the mailing list |
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rangi |
or better yet |
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rangi |
make a patch |
| 05:00 |
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Judit1 |
and send it to the mailian glist |
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rangi |
the docs mailing list yes |
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rangi |
right, hometime |
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eythian |
Hmm, I have half an hour to decide if I should bike across town or not. |
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Judit1 |
do! |
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Judit1 |
:) |
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eythian |
well, I'm afraid of getting caught out in a hailstorm |
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cait |
snow again? |
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Judit1 |
so then what?:) |
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eythian |
cait: no, although it looked like it. It was a massive, although brief, hailstorm. |
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eythian |
earlier today. |
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cait |
oh! |
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cait |
not something you want to witness on a bike |
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eythian |
not really, no. |
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Judit1 |
chicken! |
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eythian |
I'm OK with that. |
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eythian |
On the other hand, it seems to be a bit sunny out there right now |
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* cait |
would prefer cycling in a hailstorm to figuring out things like translating addresses for paging early in the morning |
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rangi |
still cold but |
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rangi |
blue sky tho |
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eythian |
yeah, blue out this way too |
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eythian |
and so now it's time to hope it stays that way. |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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alex_a |
hello #koha ! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4877] koha-* scripts have no manual pages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4877> |
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hello #koha |
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bonjour! |
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hi frr |
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hello |
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rangi |
evening |
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magnuse |
morning rangi |
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hdl |
hi rangi |
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rangi |
hi hdl |
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* rangi |
is just regenerating the schema with more table comments now |
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rangi |
paul_p: i agree with you, i think scenario 3 is the best, the history is far to useful to lose |
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paul_p |
of course you agree, as you suggested this scenario ;-) ;-) (good evening) |
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paul_p |
kf++ |
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paul_p |
rangi++ |
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paul_p |
frere-sebastien-marie++ |
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paul_p |
for the great work on html inside tags break translation fixes ! |
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rangi |
there are still some waiting signoff |
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rangi |
then i can push them too |
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rangi |
http://schema.koha-community.org/ now with more table comments |
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magnuse |
just gotta translate this tweet from @Miromurr for y'all: "trying [proprietary norwegian ils] after 2 years of koha. as much fun as banging your head into a brick wall - repeatedly" ;-) |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
has he changed jobs? |
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magnuse |
he's on a one year leave to work at a public library, including their book boat! |
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rangi |
ahhhh |
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rangi |
maybe by the end of the year they will be on koha :) |
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magnuse |
he almost got koha onboard the book boat, but someone got there just ahead of him with a proprietary ils... |
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rangi |
ahhh |
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magnuse |
if he has his way they sure will! ;-) |
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* paul_p |
head to see his banker... |
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* magnuse |
wishes paul_p the best of luck ;-) |
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rangi |
magnuse: jo posted the swedish job to the nz-libs mailing list, maybe some nzers will apply :) |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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rangi |
fredericd: gonna put a photo on your user page? :-) |
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i'm back (it was just to sign some papers) |
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rangi |
magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon12 do you think we should shift this content to a real page, and out of the category? |
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rangi |
hdl/paul_p: did you see this http://www.web2learning.net/archives/4847 ? |
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magnuse |
rangi: i'm fine either way |
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magnuse |
hooray for nicole! |
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hdl |
rangi: i had some news from Bengard yesterday |
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paul_p |
rangi, I hadn't seen the message, thx |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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rangi |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi rangi :) |
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magnuse |
guten tag kf |
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kf |
hi magnus :) |
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rangi |
paul_p: did you watch the france vs japan game? |
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rangi |
magnuse: do you know of a marc212rdf script? |
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magnuse |
rangi: did you see https://github.com/bensinober/normarc2rdf ? mappings are configurable so it shouldn't really be normarc specific |
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rangi |
ahh |
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kf |
magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
that script is based on a marc21 one though, let me see if i can find it |
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rangi |
yeah its the config i dont want to write :) |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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rangi |
if you can do it in ruby, then it should be easy peasy to do it in perl, using the same yaml config |
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magnuse |
https://github.com/rsinger/marc2rdf-modeler - A set of Ruby scripts for taking MARC21 records and remodeling them in RDF |
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rangi |
and then, we can make a save as rdf option |
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magnuse |
yes please! |
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kf |
! |
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magnuse |
but sadly, straight mappings from marc 2 rdf aren't all that interesting, i think |
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rangi |
well rsinger does some lcsh stuff too |
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magnuse |
turning marc into rdf gets interesting when yu use rdf to make up for the shortcomings of marc... |
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magnuse |
adding identifiers, realtionships etc |
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rangi |
yup, but an export as rdf is a first step |
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magnuse |
it sure is, and would be very cool! |
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rangi |
bit late at night for me to start now, maybe tomorrow night :) |
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magnuse |
i've been mulling over an idea of how to use rdf to enhance e.g. koha: http://marc-must-die.info/inde[…]ith_semantic_data |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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magnuse |
it's less than half baked yet, but i will keep adding to it |
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kf |
rangi++ magnuse++ |
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rangi |
one thing i think would be easy |
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rangi |
is to do foaf |
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magnuse |
for records? patrons? |
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rangi |
authors |
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magnuse |
ah yes |
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kf |
foafß |
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kf |
? |
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magnuse |
friend of a friend |
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rangi |
http://www.foaf-project.org/ |
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magnuse |
what he dais |
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magnuse |
s/dais/said/ |
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kf |
ah |
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kf |
never heard of that |
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rangi |
you know what i hate, when i cant find a license statement |
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magnuse |
yeah, that sux |
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rangi |
neither of those repos have them |
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magnuse |
i'll shoot bensinober an email |
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rangi |
ruby people, sheesh |
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rangi |
:) |
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magnuse |
tsk |
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rangi |
yeah, quick read, that doesnt look too bad to port |
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magnuse |
cool |
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* magnuse |
sends rangi a triple flat white with extra caffeine |
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rangi |
ok, sleep time |
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rangi |
before i add more things to my todo list :) |
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wanders off |
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wanders off too, in search of lunch |
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nengard |
morning #koha |
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jcamins_away |
Good morning! |
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jcamins |
How are you feeling today? |
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nengard |
no pain if i stay still :) |
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nengard |
so making progress |
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nengard |
i have one more PT appt here in the hospital and then they plan to send me home |
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jcamins |
@later tell eythian Can I use /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf to get a MySQL user on servers that use a remote MySQL DB? |
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huginn |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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nengard |
yup |
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lastnode |
hi all |
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lastnode |
can someone dierct me to a sensible explanation of the dewey decimenl system? |
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lastnode |
*decimal |
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lastnode |
google has not helped a lot, im afraid. im just trying to understand the number that comes after thedecimal. is that standard or does it vary from library to library? |
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jcamins |
lastnode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification and http://www.oclc.org/dewey/ |
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lastnode |
im going through both sites, and have been for days |
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lastnode |
i guess im just a little thick :) |
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lastnode |
will keep looking! |
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paul_p |
rangi (if you're not sleeping) : yes, I looked at France-Japan. Unbelievable how frenchies played wrongly during 20mn (half of the 2nd half) ! I never was afraid of loosing the match, I was sure japanese ppl will go down, but during 20mn, they were really walking on water & we were looking at them !!! |
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magnuse |
lastnode: i'm afraid "a sensible explanation of ddc" is an oxymoron ;-) |
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magnuse |
the numbers after the decimal are not local - think of it as one long number - the decimal is just there to make it easier to read |
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oleonard |
lastnode: The numbers after the decimal are simply added specificity |
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oleonard |
lastnode: Are you concerned about this issue because you're doing original cataloging? |
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oleonard |
Also: Hi #koha. |
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oleonard |
Hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, oleonard! :D |
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oleonard |
So you got to visit exotic metropolitan Lawrence KS? |
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druthb |
Yep. I'll be here for a couple of weeks. Gonna go visit the NEKLS office today. |
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oleonard |
Oh, you're still there? Cool. That's where I grew up y'know. The Lawrence Public Library was my childhood library. |
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druthb |
I did not know that, Owen. :) |
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druthb |
I got here Saturday, and wizzyrea and trea and little Spud came out for a bit, then again on Sunday for dinner over the fire with us. Clinton Lake has a nice Corps of Engineers campground. |
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* oleonard |
wants to visit Lawrence now |
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druthb |
The weather is nigh-on perfect here this morning...clear, 65F, supposed to get into the high 80s. Rain possible later in the week. |
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magnuse |
o/ |
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druthb |
o/ |
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trea |
o/ |
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druthb |
hey, oleonard...if there was one must-see thing in Lawrence --other than wizzy and trea--what would it be? |
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oleonard |
It sounds corny, but I love the university's natural history museum. Of course it's something out of my childhood too, but I think it's a real gem. |
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* jcamins |
wonders if oleonard intended that as a pun. |
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* oleonard |
isn't sure they have any gems |
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druthb |
I was thinking of that one, oleonard; there's also apparently a little museum about the building of Clinton Lake, right out here by us, that we'll probably try to hit. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I was referring to "corny." ;) |
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oleonard |
Oh, I think you're thinking of Iowa :P |
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jcamins |
Kansas isn't generally the state that comes to mind when I think "corn," but it does contribute 4% of the United States' corn production. |
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u2 funny |
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* druthb |
got to see more of SW Iowa and NW Missouri on the way here than she had planned on...70-some miles of I 29 were closed, and the detour was *way* out in the cornfields. |
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* wizzyrea |
is from NW MO, originally, but Kansas is all I know |
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wizzyrea |
that is, it's the only place I've *lived* |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: well, if you go far enough in any direction, you'll reach the edge of the continent, and find an ocean. On the other side of the ocean, there's more land. :P |
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wizzyrea |
shh |
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* wizzyrea |
reminds jcamins that she's been to Sweden, Norway, Finland, and New Zealand |
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* jcamins |
knows, he was just contextualizing. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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jcamins |
Sweden, Norway, Finland, and New Zealand are not parts of Kansas. :P |
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wizzyrea |
indeed not |
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wizzyrea |
i've been in probably 46 or 47 of the US states though. |
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* oleonard |
was afraid for a moment wizzyrea was going to bust out singing "Over the rainbow" |
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wizzyrea |
lulz |
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wizzyrea |
oh and good morning |
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jcamins |
Oh, yeah, good morning. |
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* kf |
thinks wizzyrea should visit germany next :) |
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trea |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
I would LOVE that |
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trea |
^^ |
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wizzyrea |
for beer and sausages alone :P |
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wizzyrea |
and your delicious cookies |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: trea: sounds like you're set to be world travelers :) |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt: hi! |
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gmcharlt |
Koha: unifying the world one library at a time |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add gmcharlt: Koha: unifying the world one library at a time |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #152 added. |
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* oleonard |
startles as gmcharlt appears out of nowhere |
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wizzyrea |
oleonard: I don't know about you but I've been missing gmcharl |
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wizzyrea |
t |
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kf |
wizzyrea: and bonus: if you visit me you can _walk_ over the border to switzerland :) |
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kf |
so you get 2 countries at the price of one ;) |
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wizzyrea |
ooooo |
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rhcl |
just don't walk over the border into Iran |
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* oleonard |
checks his globe |
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jcamins |
Did you know that Iran has an island which doesn't require a visa (or didn't used to require a visa) to visit? |
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kf |
quite unlikely |
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wizzyrea |
interesting |
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wahanui |
rumour has it interesting is sometimes bad or sometimes good |
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trea |
and sometimes very extremely not good. |
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oleonard |
Can someone help me understand what's going on with Bug 5234? chris says it has been pushed, but I still see those files |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5234 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove unused CSS files |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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oleonard |
And I am looking at master |
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wizzyrea |
hum |
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* kf |
was about to suggest checking your branch |
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kf |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]083a04dce7c108953 |
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kf |
oleonard: are you looking at en? |
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kf |
or at another language folder? |
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oleonard |
en |
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kf |
out of ideas |
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oleonard |
Are those files gone for everyone else? |
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kf |
check your git log for the commit id? |
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sekjal |
oleonard: they were recreated when in the switch to T:T |
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oleonard |
Ah, of course. So this is not a symptom of the crazy. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: did you see my message about bug 5528? I tested it, and couldn't find any regressions, but I couldn't figure out how to sign off on it. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support |
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sekjal |
jcamins: yes, I did see |
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sekjal |
going to take a look soon, and hopefully pass it through QA |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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libsysguy_class |
sekjal we are meeting on thursday right? |
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lastnode |
oleonard: sorry for the late reply. yes, im doing original cataologing for somebooks. |
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sekjal |
libsysguy_class: yes, that's the plan |
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libsysguy_class |
cool I was just putting in a reminder to send out a reminder :p |
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kf |
jcamins: is it possible to deactivate it? |
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oleonard |
lastnode: Are you using the call numbers assigned to the books by the LOC? |
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kf |
jcamins: as in hiding the new function? |
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kf |
libsysguy_class: heh - good plan! |
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jcamins |
kf: yes. |
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jcamins |
When it's not turned on, the tab doesn't show up. |
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kf |
jcamins: great - thx |
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oleonard |
I just had a librarian ask me why titles are showing up in search results even though all their items are lost. |
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oleonard |
I know the answer, but it does point out some inconsistency. |
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oleonard |
(with hidelostitems turned on of course) |
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libsysguy_class |
sekjal...are bugs 6431, 6430, and 5549 going to play nice with each other? |
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sekjal |
libsysguy_class: hmmm, not sure |
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sekjal |
will have to check |
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libsysguy |
gotcha...6431 and 6430 looked new |
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trea |
can someone refresh my memory as to where in the manual accounttypes are defined? |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: 6430 and 6431 are constituent parts of 5549, so yes, they'll interact very smoothly |
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kf |
trea: authorized values |
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kf |
trea: man_inv or somethingl like that |
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trea |
kf++ |
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libsysguy |
thanks sekjal |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 43 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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oleonard |
I'm working on Bug 6865. What do y'all think? http://screencast.com/t/tHHspuRZBhv |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6865 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients |
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kf |
oleonard: have a minuet? |
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kf |
the color is a bit extreme |
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oleonard |
;) |
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oleonard |
kf: Sure |
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kf |
;) |
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kf |
I have a library with a blind staff member testing koha |
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kf |
and they complain that field descrption and field in cataloging can not be associated with each other |
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kf |
and I thought you might have an idea about it |
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* oleonard |
is looking |
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kf |
thank you :) |
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oleonard |
field description as in "CONTROL NUMBER," etc? |
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* chris_n |
wonders if oleonard has on rose-colored glasses today ;) |
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* oleonard |
wonders why addbiblio looks so different today |
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kf |
oleonard: I think so |
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oleonard |
kf: I think what they mean is that the screen reader is looking for a <label> <input> pair. |
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oleonard |
In the Koha editor some fields have their own label, but not all. If the field has subfields, then the subfields each have a label |
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kf |
hmm |
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oleonard |
Tag has no subfields, the description isn't a label |
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kf |
I will try to check wtih the library |
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oleonard |
http://screencast.com/t/hjRzhtuMAjBc |
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kf |
if it's a problem for all fields or only some of them |
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oleonard |
The text in all capital letters is not a label. The text below it is. |
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kf |
looks right to me |
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kf |
seems right? |
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kf |
I wonder what would be better, treat them like headings? |
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oleonard |
One of the problems is that the all-capital-letters text is, for some fields, a link which controls the collapse behavior |
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libsysguy |
I have a question about diacritics |
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libsysguy |
some of ours are messed up |
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libsysguy |
is that a mysql issue |
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kf |
oleonard: hm |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: it's possible. what are your MySQL encodings for your Koha database? |
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libsysguy |
can you refresh me on how to check that |
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libsysguy |
is it in my.cnf? |
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libsysguy |
or is there a mysql command that i can run |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: probaby not MySQL encoding, but it's worth checking. |
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jcamins |
SHOW CREATE TABLE biblioitem; |
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lastnode |
oleonard: yes im using the LOC call numbers, though some books i am entering dont hvae LOC entries. |
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lastnode |
which is why i asked. |
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jcamins |
I think that will tell you what the encoding is set to. |
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lastnode |
the dewey numbers i grab from LOC - ive been trying to interpret them too. sometimes they dotn amke sense :( |
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lastnode |
(I am not a Librarian) |
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oleonard |
lastnode: Do you have an example? |
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lastnode |
sure |
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libsysguy |
the charset is utf8 |
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lastnode |
944.083/6 - Charles de Gaulle - Lacouture, Jean. |
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lastnode |
that is History & geography>>History of Europe>>France & Monaco |
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lastnode |
(944) now i want to know what .083 means. andthen /6 |
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libsysguy |
hmm so maybe the record import is not importing correctly? |
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libsysguy |
seen hdl? |
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wahanui |
hdl was last seen on #koha 6 hours, 1 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: rangi: i had some news from Bengard yesterday [Tue Sep 13 09:48:41 2011] |
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jcamins |
.083 is part of the classification. |
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jcamins |
/6 is giving you an option for going into more detail. |
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kf |
oleonard: thank you |
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kf |
oleonard: I will ask for more details and perhaps they have a suggeston what would work better |
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oleonard |
Isn't there a git command where you can step through commits to see where a bug arose? |
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jcamins |
git bisect. |
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wahanui |
git bisect is our friend here |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6860 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , syndetics covers not showing on search results or shelf browse |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6517 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , koha-create wants "use database" in DEFAULTSQL |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6651 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , koha-upgrade-to-3.4 fails when multiple instances are present |
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oleonard |
lastnode: The only way to find out exactly what the .083 /means/ is to find a DDC reference, which you'll have to pay for |
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oleonard |
...because OCLC isn't looking out for you, it just wants your money. |
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kf |
oh wow |
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oleonard |
So for instance, our DDC reference says the .083 means "Period of the Fifth Republic, 1958-" |
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oleonard |
And then it says .083 6 means "1958-1969" |
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oleonard |
.083 7 means 1970-1979, .083 8 means 1980-1989, etc. |
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oleonard |
Does that make sense lastnode? |
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libsysguy |
sekjal, jcamins and example of our encoding problem http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi[…]blionumber=421669 |
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kf |
libsysguy: hm, perhaps the font does not provide this character? or wrong normalization form? looks almost like a ö umlaut to me - but the '' look a bit weird on the cover |
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oleonard |
I've seen something similar, and it wasn't a font problem. |
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kf |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s_number |
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kf |
I would try copy and paste from there and check if it still looks weird ) |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: looks like you need to re-encode your catalog. |
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* oleonard |
can do so using Firebug and see the correct character |
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libsysguy |
jcamins prepare for my newb question |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: sekjal has a script that does it, I think. |
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libsysguy |
how do I do that |
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libsysguy |
ohh so i have to do it with a script |
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* jcamins |
shamlessly passes the buck. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: didn't you write a script that fixes encoding issues like this? |
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kf |
ok, time to go :) bye all! |
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lastnode |
oleonard: so there is no public list of post-decimal classifications? |
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oleonard |
The Dewey Decimal Classification system is property of OCLC |
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jcamins |
lastnode: the official DDC books. |
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oleonard |
lastnode: Or you can pay for online access I think |
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jcamins |
Or the online version. |
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jcamins |
Regardless, you have to pay for it. |
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oleonard |
The marc editor is pretty hardcore if advancedMarceditor and hide_marc are both set to "don't display" http://screencast.com/t/SSA0kqEzV7C |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: doesn't look like a normalization problem, which is what I've figured out a scripted fix for |
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lastnode |
right, oleonard. i guess i could start with just doing primary dewey classification (no decimals) and then seeing if i can get my school to pay for OCLC access later |
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lastnode |
thank you very much for your help |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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sekjal |
looks like the data in the MARC is just plain wrong. not sure if re-encoding from MARC-8 to UTF-8 would help... |
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oleonard |
lastnode: There's no reason for you not to follow the suggestion of the LOC CIP data, but for original cataloging you might skip the decimals |
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oleonard |
lastnode: Are you using z39.50 to search for existing records? |
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lastnode |
oleonard: yes |
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libsysguy |
sekjal I think they are importing in Marc-21 |
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oleonard |
lastnode: Good. |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: MARC-21 is the Marc flavour; MARC-8 would be the character encoding |
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jcamins |
sekjal: this is what the ANS ran into, that you wrote the script to fix. |
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jcamins |
It was encoded as MARC-8, but treated as UTF-8. |
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libsysguy |
ohh...ok...I told margo to verify that the records with diacritics from one of our librarians were correct...the other librarian uses connexion (sp) so that may be causing the issue |
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sekjal |
jcamins: I don't recall such a fix; I do remember using TouchBiblios.pl to update the Normalization |
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sekjal |
but that was to fix indexing |
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jcamins |
sekjal: way back at the very beginning. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: never mind. |
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jcamins |
sekjal: I was the one who fixed it. |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: sekjal is so awesome, he deserves credit for everything. :D |
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libsysguy |
haha that is how I generally feel when working with sekjal |
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lastnode |
so im off |
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lastnode |
oleonard++ |
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chris_n |
stupid firefox |
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lastnode |
thanks again, mate |
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jcamins |
Unfortunately for you, the fix I came up with is not usable in your context. |
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oleonard |
Sure thing lastnode |
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* libsysguy |
is trying to merge hourly with master |
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* libsysguy |
is frustrated |
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jcamins |
To avoid this being an issue in the future, have them select the encoding MARC-8 when staging records from a file. |
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jcamins |
(at least, the files from this particular source) |
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oleonard |
Hi nengard! |
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nengard |
it's Brian; I'm just transferring files. Nicole's doing fine, but can't really use her computer right now. |
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oleonard |
Give her our best |
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* libsysguy |
is finally done rebasing |
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jcamins |
Hi, bengard. Tell Nicole that Myshkin was already to visit and offer post-operation comfort: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net[…]_2000990890_n.jpg |
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jcamins |
s/already/all ready/ |
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libsysguy |
in Auth.pm I see a line that says "use vars qw($some_vars);" where do those vars get set? |
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libsysguy |
I only ask because I'm using LDAP and I was getting an error but when i tell auth to use auth_with_ldap it starts working again |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: Lawrence Public Library is part of NEKLS, right? |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: I think that was fixed in current HEAD |
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sekjal |
some of the CAS improvements damaged LDAP connections |
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libsysguy |
b-b-but i just rebased on that |
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libsysguy |
:'( |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: If they are, tell them their "A book commits suicide every time you watch Jersey Shore" PSA is awesome. |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: did you pull the most recent master code before? |
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sekjal |
this was fixed last week or so (very recent) |
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libsysguy |
god I hope I remembered to do that |
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libsysguy |
I checked out hourly on my dev box then merged it with origin/master |
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libsysguy |
that should pull the most recent right? |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: only if you did git fetch origin first. |
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sekjal |
^^ |
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libsysguy |
crap... |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: but if you already resolved some of the conflicts, it won't be so painful when you merge in the rest. |
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jcamins |
Just run git fetch origin |
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jcamins |
And rerun the merge command. |
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libsysguy |
always a conflict with updatedatabase *smh* |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's pretty much a given. |
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libsysguy |
omg...all the comments in kohastructure :'( |
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libsysguy |
there is no face to represent eternal sadness |
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libsysguy |
after a merge do I have to commit or can i just consider it done? |
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jcamins |
Run git status and see what it says. |
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libsysguy |
lots of changes need to be committed |
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libsysguy |
lol |
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libsysguy |
is it just git commit -m "merged branch" |
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jcamins |
I have no idea. I've never used merge. |
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libsysguy |
me either :'( |
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jcamins |
Are you sure you don't have to correct the conflict, add the file, then run something like git merge --continue? |
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libsysguy |
jcamins hmm looks like you have to commit then do a pull |
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jcamins |
Could be. |
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libsysguy |
this is a mess...how does sekjal do this for the whole community |
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* sekjal |
doesn't |
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sekjal |
I just write and test code |
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sekjal |
okay, sometimes there is rebasing |
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libsysguy |
haha ohh I thought you were the merge master :p |
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libsysguy |
is that rangi? |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: yes, rangi is RM for 3.6, and does all the committing to the Koha master branch |
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sekjal |
chris_n is release maintainer for 3.4, and merges things into 3.4.x branch |
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libsysguy |
poor rangi...I'm surprised he is always in such a good mood |
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libsysguy |
I'd be angry all the time dealing with code conflicts lol |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: I'm going to make some green tea; would you care for an e-cup? |
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libsysguy |
i would indeed love a cup |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: LPL is *in* NEKLS, but isn't part of NExpress (yet, if ever) |
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* libsysguy |
successfully merged master and hourly |
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libsysguy |
does that make me done for the day? |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: huzzah! |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: well, I guess you probably don't talk to them much, but if you do, great PSA. :) |
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* sekjal |
pours libsysguy some tea |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
can I have some too? |
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* sekjal |
pours cait a cup, as well |
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cait |
mm :) |
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* cait |
tried to make tea a minute ago, but forgot to put the tea leaves into the tea pot before adding water |
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cait |
long day |
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jcamins |
I hate it when I do that. |
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jcamins |
It's not quite as bad as when you forget to heat the water, though. |
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cait |
hehe true |
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cait |
ok, now it worked - green tea someone? |
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jcamins |
By the way, was anyone able to figure out what the point of the Open Bibliography Principles is? |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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Brooke |
it's doin' it again! |
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Brooke |
if I go to edit http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Notifications_RFC |
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so I cancelled out |
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jcamins: it's been out there for a while -- and pretty important, at least to the extent that it makes libraries think twice before automatically assigning their bibliographic data to an entity that would try to make it proprietary |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins do you have the link to that PSA? |
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wizzyrea |
I (shamefully) admit I haven't seen it |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: http://www.facebook.com/media/[…]06942.94990393649 |
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jcamins |
Third row from the bottom, second from the left. |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
ty |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: ah. Thanks. Suddenly people have been e-mailing it to all my mailing lists, and I can't quite figure out why. |
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rangi |
Morning |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (7:00 AM NZST on September 14, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
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rangi |
gonna be a nice day, crisp morning and now blue sky |
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druthb |
wizzyrea++ |
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rangi |
I hope the solvent smell is gone |
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wizzyrea |
what'd I do? |
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rangi |
new carpet is stinky |
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wizzyrea |
ew |
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wizzyrea |
yes |
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wizzyrea |
yes it is |
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rangi |
redoing all the aircon, and carpets and stuff in the building |
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wizzyrea |
stinky |
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rangi |
most importantly recabling too |
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wizzyrea |
ooooo |
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rangi |
@later tell libsysguy merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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maximep |
so true |
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gmcharlt |
@quote add <rangi> merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #153 added. |
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wizzyrea |
ok that made me spit water out of my nose. |
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rangi |
@quote random |
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huginn |
rangi: Quote #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current Koha. Is pretty dreamy already." (added by gmcharlt at 02:44 AM, October 29, 2010) |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
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wizzyrea |
ah that's a number I should remember |
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* wizzyrea |
loves how everyone now calls it a "quote 123 problem" |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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cait |
hehe |
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rangi |
oh heres some cool news |
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rangi |
the nz treasury dept is presenting on koha tomorrow |
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rangi |
to the special library association |
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wizzyrea |
Nice! |
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rangi |
session sold out |
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wizzyrea |
lol! |
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rangi |
yeah pretty neat, the best salespeople are always happy users :) |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
3 games today |
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wizzyrea |
who's playing? |
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andersonbd1 |
total newbie looking for help :-) |
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oleonard |
Go for it andersonbd1 |
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* wizzyrea |
resists the urge to quote get 145 :) |
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rangi |
hmm I know Georgia is, can't member the others, namibia too I think |
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druthb |
@quote get 145 |
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huginn |
druthb: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
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rangi |
maybe canada |
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* druthb |
doesn't resist. |
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andersonbd1 |
I went through all the install steps and got to the point where I go to the browser (http://ubuntu:8080) - which is the name of my machine |
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andersonbd1 |
and I got this error: |
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andersonbd1 |
Software error: |
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andersonbd1 |
Can't call method "id" on an undefined value at InstallAuth.pm line 291. |
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andersonbd1 |
For help, please send mail to the webmaster (webmaster ubuntu), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. |
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rangi |
what version are u installing? |
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rangi |
3.4.4 ? |
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wahanui |
3.4.4 is the current stable release |
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wizzyrea |
maybe a better question |
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wizzyrea |
where did you download it from? |
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andersonbd1 |
koha-3.04.04 |
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rangi |
cool |
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andersonbd1 |
http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
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wizzyrea |
:) what he said |
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rangi |
hmm and you have no missing modules? |
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* rangi |
hasn't bumped into this one before |
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andersonbd1 |
not sure about that - how do I know if modules are missing? |
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rangi |
my stop bbiab |
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wizzyrea |
well make test will usually give you a hint |
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andersonbd1 |
make test passed |
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wizzyrea |
what version of ubuntu? |
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idly wonders if you are missing CGI::Session |
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andersonbd1 |
andersonbd1ubuntu:~/koha-3.04.04$ uname -a |
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andersonbd1 |
Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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andersonbd1 |
I have CGI::Session (disclaimer: I am a perl/CPAN novice)... I've been using apt-get to install these modules (eg: sudo apt-get install libcgi-session-perl) |
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rangi |
yeah apt-get is definitely the best way to do it |
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rangi |
andersonbd1: can you try this |
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rangi |
in your unpacked tarball |
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rangi |
run |
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rangi |
./koha_perl_deps.pl -m |
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wizzyrea |
oo, I smell a faq there. |
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andersonbd1 |
andersonbd1ubuntu:~/koha-3.04.04$ ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m |
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andersonbd1 |
Module Name Current Version Required Version Module Required |
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andersonbd1 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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andersonbd1 |
Authen::CAS::Client 0 * 0.05 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
Biblio::EndnoteStyle 0 * 0.05 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
CGI::Session::Driver::memc 0 * 0.04 No |
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andersonbd1 |
CGI::Session::Serialize::y 0 * 4.2 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
DBD::SQLite2 0 * 0.33 No |
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andersonbd1 |
Data::ICal 0 * 0.13 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
Date::ICal 0 * 1.72 Yes |
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wizzyrea |
so, some stuff. |
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andersonbd1 |
DateTime 0 * 0.51 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
Email::Date 0 * 1.103 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
Graphics::Magick 0 * 1.3.05 No |
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andersonbd1 |
HTML::Template::Pro 0 * 0.69 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
HTTP::OAI 0 * 3.2 Yes |
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rangi |
looks like lots missing ;) |
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andersonbd1 |
Lingua::Stem::Snowball 0 * 0.952 Yes |
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rangi |
oh btw, in future, you can use |
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wizzyrea |
afk |
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andersonbd1 |
Locale::Currency::Format 0 * 1.28 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
Locale::PO 0 * 0.17 Yes |
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andersonbd1 |
MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCor 0 * |
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andersonbd1 |
aha - I need to install all of those don't I? |
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rangi |
paste.koha-community.org |
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rangi |
if you want to paste something ;) |
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rangi |
yep, that would be my firsl step |
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rangi |
CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml |
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rangi |
that is the one missing that is causing your immediate error |
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rangi |
but you will need them all |
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andersonbd1 |
thanks much rangi. will do that and report back. not sure how to use that past.koha-community.org link - am I missing something obvious? |
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rangi |
http://paste.koha-community.org/ you go here |
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rangi |
paste into that big box |
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rangi |
change the channel to #koha |
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wahanui |
rangi: that doesn't look right |
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rangi |
and hit paste it |
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pastebot |
"rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "like this" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/35 |
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andersonbd1 |
in a browser? I don't see anything when I go there. |
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rangi |
weird you should get a form |
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rangi |
can others see it? |
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rangi |
pastebin.com would work too |
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maximep |
sure works for me |
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rhcl |
andersonbd1: drop off the final "35" from the link above and you should see the blank form. Just this: http://paste.koha-community.org |
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wizzyrea |
oh and andersonbd1, on ubuntu you can get the nice name by executing lsb_release -irc |
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wizzyrea |
or you can cat /etc/lsb-release |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5234' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fed41e4c069e96c32> / Fix for Bug 5234 - Remove unused CSS files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a02da25ae04122d86> |
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maximep |
probably not normal that your jenkins outputs : Devel::Cover: Can't find file "cmp_ok |
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maximep |
mine doesn't |
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sekjal |
night, all! |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #411: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/411/ |
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jenkins_koha |
oleonard: Fix for Bug 5234 - Remove unused CSS files |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5234 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove unused CSS files |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
im gonna try to push some more bug 6458 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
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rangi |
get these tests not failing |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_6458' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13ad159d8c70aafc6> / Follow-up fix for Bug 6458, incorrect parsing result in translation processing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]24e8dac7d0a24ebd0> / Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
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libsysguy |
hey guys |
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libsysguy |
I have a question about fines |
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rangi |
yup |
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libsysguy |
so it looks like fines calculate a day late? |
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rangi |
? |
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rangi |
they calculate acording to your circ rules |
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libsysguy |
well if a person is lets say 45 minutes late turning in a book |
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rangi |
yup |
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libsysguy |
then the chargeable_units would still be 0 right? |
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rangi |
? |
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libsysguy |
because it does end_date-start_date |
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rangi |
are you talking hourly loans, or normal koha |
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libsysguy |
well they both run on the same code in this case |
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libsysguy |
but normal koha for the example im trying to fix |
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libsysguy |
basically we had a prof turn in a book the day after it was due |
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rangi |
for normal koha, the minimum period for a book to be overdue is 1 |
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libsysguy |
Koha said the item was overdue |
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rangi |
day |
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libsysguy |
but didn't assess a fine |
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rangi |
for fines, because thats the minimum period you can define for the fine to be applied |
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rangi |
and it only works it out, when the cron job runs |
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libsysguy |
right so the cron run every 30 minutes |
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rangi |
so if someone has returned it before the cron job runs, then it wont get a fine |
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rangi |
right so for normal koha, it only gets a fine if its returned on a day other than the day it was due |
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rangi |
times dont matter |
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rangi |
only the day |
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libsysguy |
so the day after it was due there should be a fine...right |
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rangi |
depends what your circ rules say |
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libsysguy |
I;m thinking time shouldn't come into play here since its still running at night |
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libsysguy |
well the interval is set to one |
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libsysguy |
so yes I would assume it would |
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rangi |
whats the grace period set to |
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libsysguy |
0 |
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rangi |
then yes after 1 day overdue, it should apply a fine |
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libsysguy |
but (going by what my circulation librarian told me) the patron turned the item in the day after it was due with no charge |
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libsysguy |
odd... |
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rangi |
well you can check it in the db, it will log the returndate |
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libsysguy |
btw i understand your frustration with SVN...Coral uses it still :'( |
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libsysguy |
what table? |
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rangi |
old_issues |
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rangi |
that has all the returned itesm |
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rangi |
and/or statistics |
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rangi |
select * from statistics where itemnumber= whatever and type='return'; |
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rangi |
that has a nice datetime stamp on it, so will tell you exactly when it was returned |
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libsysguy |
gotcha |
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libsysguy |
ok I'll investigate further...it may be that the librarian is crazy ;) |
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eythian |
often the way ;) |
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libsysguy |
oh trust me I know |
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eythian |
jcamins: you can, yep |
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libsysguy |
ok so the due date was 2011-09-12 23:59:00 and the return date was 2011-09-13 13:38:58 |
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libsysguy |
so based on normal koha would you say fine or no fine |
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rangi |
you are sure the fines cron job runs every 30 mins? |
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rangi |
(on normal koha we just run it once a day) |
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rangi |
round 6am |
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libsysguy |
30 * * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/fines.pl |
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libsysguy |
is what I have in my crontab |
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rangi |
id have expected, that one would go on at 00:30 on the 13th then |
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rangi |
given the appropriate circ rules being set |
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rangi |
look in /tmp |
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libsysguy |
that is what I would have expected as well |
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rangi |
there should be some .log files |
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rangi |
probably running it every 30 mins makes them less useful tho |
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libsysguy |
heh |
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libsysguy |
look at the ones for the 13th? |
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rangi |
yeah |
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libsysguy |
oh man...so should I look for anything in particular |
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libsysguy |
just the patron |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
its a tab sep file |
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libsysguy |
yeah i see the patron |
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rangi |
you can open it libreoffice or gnumeric it makes its easier to read |
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rangi |
anything in the fines column? |
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libsysguy |
but no fine at the end...it just says 0 |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
one thing to check |
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rangi |
in sysprefs |
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libsysguy |
but the days overdue also says 0 |
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rangi |
right, that would be why it didnt do it then |
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libsysguy |
what is sysprefs? |
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rangi |
other fines are going on eh? |
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libsysguy |
I believe so |
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rangi |
but if its saying 0 days overdue, then yeah its not gonna charge anything |
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libsysguy |
I tested fines for hourly |
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rangi |
what does it say for date_due |
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libsysguy |
and it was working (or so I thought |
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libsysguy |
the 12th |
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libsysguy |
same as the db |
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rangi |
its the 14th here today |
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rangi |
and i see things like |
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rangi |
Library Assistant 10398 141155 2011-09-13 1 |
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rangi |
so its picking it as 1 day overdue |
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rangi |
my guess its it somethign to do with circ rules |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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rangi |
or the changes to do with hourly |
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libsysguy |
this is what I have 712830 0000002027266 2011-09-12 23:59:00 0 0 |
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rangi |
yeah see in normal koha, there is no time, just date |
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libsysguy |
well there are only about 3 lines in the fines script that changed for hourly |
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libsysguy |
but...maybe |
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libsysguy |
I can try merging...but not till this weekend |
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rangi |
and thats the file for the 13th eh? |
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libsysguy |
yes it is |
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rangi |
interesting i see nothin that have 0 for days overdue |
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libsysguy |
I found that odd as well |
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libsysguy |
that it saw it as overdue but didn't put a number in for it |
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rangi |
(3505 lines for this mornings run) |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
so i suspect the code that is calculating how overdue something is |
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rangi |
that is the problem |
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rangi |
lemme check it out |
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rangi |
($datedue_days <= $today_days) or next; |
| 23:15 |
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rangi |
its getting past that, so thats good |
| 23:16 |
|
libsysguy |
ok...in the mean time I have dinner planned with my Swede...ill be back on later if you're still around? |
| 23:16 |
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rangi |
CalcFine |
| 23:16 |
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rangi |
$overdueItemsCounted++; |
| 23:16 |
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rangi |
my ($amount,$type,$daycounttotal,$daycount)= |
| 23:16 |
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rangi |
CalcFine($data->[$i] |
| 23:17 |
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rangi |
that sets the amount, and how overdue |
| 23:17 |
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rangi |
ill investigate what changed for 5549 |
| 23:17 |
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rangi |
yep ill be here |
| 23:17 |
|
libsysguy |
oh oh |
| 23:17 |
|
libsysguy |
i have this |
| 23:17 |
|
libsysguy |
my $datedue = dt_from_string( $overdue->{date_due} ); |
| 23:17 |
|
libsysguy |
if ( DateTime->compare( $datedue, $today ) == 1 ) { |
| 23:17 |
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libsysguy |
next; # not overdue |
| 23:17 |
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libsysguy |
} |
| 23:17 |
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libsysguy |
++$counted; |
| 23:17 |
|
libsysguy |
my ( $amount, $type, $daycounttotal ) = |
| 23:17 |
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libsysguy |
CalcFine( $overdue, $borrower->{categorycode}, |
| 23:17 |
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libsysguy |
$branchcode, $datedue, $today ); |
| 23:17 |
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libsysguy |
oops...should have used pastebin...my bad |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
yeah thats diff |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
in master its |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
($datedue_days <= $today_days) or next; # or it's not overdue, right? |
| 23:18 |
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libsysguy |
hmm...ok ill focus on that when i get back |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
but i dont think thats the problem |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
i think its CalcFine itself |
| 23:18 |
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libsysguy |
gotta run...sorry rangi...gf is complaining about being hungry :'( |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
thats change |
| 23:18 |
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libsysguy |
ok |
| 23:19 |
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rangi |
cya later |
| 23:19 |
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libsysguy is now known as libsysguy_dinner |
| 23:19 |
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jcamins is now known as jcamins_away |
| 23:21 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #412: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/412/ |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* katrin.fischer: Fix for Bug 6458 Follow-up for memberentrygen.tt |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing / patron-attr-types |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing / clone-rules |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing / branches |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6458 - incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:21 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6458, incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 23:22 |
|
rangi |
yes the entire CalcFine sub has changed |
| 23:23 |
|
rangi |
try git show 5c7c3377 when you get back |
| 23:32 |
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paul_p left #koha |
| 23:34 |
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rangi |
my $days_minus_grace = $chargeable_units - $data->{firstremind}; if ($data->{'chargeperiod'} && $days_minus_grace ) { |
| 23:35 |
|
rangi |
i suspect $days_minus_grace is becoming 0 |
| 23:35 |
|
rangi |
return ($amount, $data->{chargename}, $days_minus_grace); |
| 23:35 |
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rangi |
that should give you enough to go on |
