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hi #koha |
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* oleonard: Fix for Bug 2539 - kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded |
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* frederick.capovilla: Bug 6479 Converts all the serialseq variables to UTF-8. |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 6834 : Removing last of the $template->{param_map} |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2539 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded |
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* henridamien.laurent: bug 6834 followup removing param_map |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6595:[ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Add German translation of purchase suggestion mails |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6479 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, NEW , Encoding problem in "recievedlist" when the numbering formula contains utf-8 characters |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6595: [ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Fixing German translation and address formatting (HOLD_PRINT) |
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* alex.arnaud: bug 4966: Add a button in parcel.pl for confirm end receiving |
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* nengard: bug4966 - follow up to 4966 changes language from 'end' to 'finish' |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6834 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , $template->{param_map} is deprecated with the introduction of Template::Toolkit |
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* alex.arnaud: Bug 4966 - follow up - add xhtml closure for input tags |
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* oleonard: Fix for Bug 6768, Two unused include files can be removed |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6595 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add German translation for purchase suggestion mails |
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* oleonard: Fix for Bug 5028 - Remove references to catmaintain.pl |
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* christophe.croullebois: Bug 6121: Holds awaiting pickup |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4966 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, NEW , no way to finish receiving |
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jenkins_koha |
* paul.poulain: Bug 6121: follow-up = using overloo instead of reserveloo |
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* magnus: Bug 6516 - Make borrowernumber of staff user configurable in koha-create |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6768 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Two unused include files can be removed: error-top.inc and error-bottom.inc |
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* magnus: Bug 4877 [ENH] - Update man page for koha-create |
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* robin: Bug 4877 [ENH] - [SIGNED-OFF] more man page improvements |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5028 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove references to catmaintain.pl |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6121 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , waitingreserves: branchname instead of branch code |
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* Chris Cormack: Updating history and about file |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6516 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , koha-create makes assumptions about borrowernumber of staff user |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, P1, ---, magnus, NEW , koha-* scripts have no manual pages |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6732] Missing Title for Manual Invoice <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6732> |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6665] advancedMARCeditor preference not functioning <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6665> |
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rangi |
heya wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hi there |
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lastnode |
hello friends |
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lastnode |
anyone here? |
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eythian |
Nope. |
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eythian |
cait: it's very early in the morning. Go back to sleep. |
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lastnode |
just wondering if any of you will be kohacon |
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lastnode |
i didnt realise it's in India, adn even though I'm very new to the community, it's tempting, seeinghow close it is |
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eythian |
I'm going |
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cait |
hehe |
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cait |
nope |
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cait |
hi all, hi robin, hi lastnode |
| 04:19 |
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lastnode |
i dont think id have much to contribute, eythian, but seeing ill probably be running koha for my school for a while |
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lastnode |
couple of years at least, do you think it will be worth my while? |
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rangi |
kohacon clashes with a couple of other conferences id already said yes to, so not me |
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eythian |
yeah, definitely |
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lastnode |
im tempted because it's just a hop, step anda jump for me |
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eythian |
You're likely to learn a lot |
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eythian |
and meet people, find contacts, that sort of thing. |
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lastnode |
i can prolly find accomodation too, so it will just be plane ticket |
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lastnode |
and food, which is uber cheap |
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* lastnode |
is seriously tempted |
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cait |
in my experience it's even worth it when it'son the other side of the world :) |
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lastnode |
id feel like a bit of newb though |
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lastnode |
ive been running koha for all of 3 weeks |
| 04:22 |
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rangi |
its mostly for newbs |
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lastnode |
and not even production, yet |
| 04:22 |
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rangi |
the developer conference afterwards is for the more experienced users |
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lastnode |
speaking of whic, rangi, can you edit http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
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lastnode |
im not sure if the debian scripts are supposed to do this |
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eythian |
do what? |
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lastnode |
but i needed on 3 recent squeeze koha installs, to 'a2enmod rewrite' |
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lastnode |
because mod rewrite was not enabled |
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eythian |
oh, yeah |
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rangi |
lastnode: its a wiki, anyone can edit it ;) |
| 04:23 |
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lastnode |
and it's not in thehowto |
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eythian |
it's kinda by design. |
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lastnode |
oh |
| 04:23 |
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eythian |
although it _should_ be in the wiki |
| 04:23 |
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lastnode |
shall i add it? |
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eythian |
yes |
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rangi |
yes please, you will need to sign up, and confirm your email (to stop spammers) |
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lastnode |
wow your captcha is throwing me, guys |
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lastnode |
90 - 6? |
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wahanui |
84 |
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lastnode |
im an English teacher damnit |
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lastnode |
oh thanks wahanui |
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eythian |
wahanui is a robot :) |
| 04:24 |
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rangi |
but its great to get more people editing the wiki |
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eythian |
hence, good at math |
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eythian |
I want to make koha-create detect if rewrite is on, and if not have it abort. |
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lastnode |
i have heard |
| 04:24 |
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lastnode |
oh, you're the debian guy eythian? |
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eythian |
but it's against debian policy to actually change it. |
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eythian |
jup |
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lastnode |
im going to add it under QUick Start just after the msyql server apt-get |
| 04:25 |
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eythian |
sure |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 16.5�C (6:24 AM CEST on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
hey, if you're an English teacher, you'd be good at writing man pages for the commands ;) |
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lastnode |
sudo a2enmod rewrite <-- syntax is correct? |
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cait |
hi Technicus |
| 04:27 |
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lastnode |
eythian: i can certainly try, ive contributed to foss projects before |
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eythian |
yep, that's it |
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lastnode |
http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/upstreamdev/ <-- former project, now dead |
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Technicus |
Hello! |
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lastnode |
hi Technicus |
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eythian |
lastnode: well, if you're keen, bug 4877 is where we do that. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4877 enhancement, P1, ---, magnus, NEW , koha-* scripts have no manual pages |
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lastnode |
actually eythian http://sourceforge.net/projects/upstream/ |
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lastnode |
sure eythian let me haev a look at that soetime |
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eythian |
oh handy |
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lastnode |
eythian: it was wactually written for peeps in #ubuntu for support |
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lastnode |
but canonical developed a project that replacedit |
| 04:30 |
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lastnode |
or were, anyway |
| 04:30 |
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eythian |
ah right |
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cait |
Technicus: where are you from? :) |
| 04:31 |
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eythian |
cait: $20 on Wisconson |
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lastnode |
eythian: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
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eythian |
lastnode: looks good |
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lastnode |
eythian: is having packages for ubuntu a goal of the packagers atm |
| 04:31 |
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cait |
ah :) |
| 04:31 |
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lastnode |
? |
| 04:32 |
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rangi |
lastnode: like this https://launchpad.net/~koha |
| 04:32 |
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eythian |
Debian, and Ubuntu by proxy. Eventually yeah, but there's a lot of work to be done first. In particular, cleaning up of copyrights and so forth. But also getting packages for languages etc. |
| 04:32 |
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lastnode |
oh right |
| 04:32 |
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rangi |
the main goal is get the packages into debian proper, then they will get it into ubuntu, but for now there are packages for natty at those ppas |
| 04:33 |
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Technicus |
cait: I am right here. |
| 04:33 |
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lastnode |
right |
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lastnode |
do you have a sponsor in mind for debian, rangi? a DD or a DM? |
| 04:34 |
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Technicus |
Any suggestions for software that could be used in a bike shop? Keeping track of inventory and jobs? |
| 04:34 |
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rangi |
yeah we have a few dd at catalyst, and there are a few others involved in koha |
| 04:34 |
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lastnode |
neat :) |
| 04:34 |
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lastnode |
i look forward to seeing koha in main in wheezy |
| 04:34 |
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rangi |
but the main thing is sorting out the copyright headers and tidying up the packages a bit more, they are pretty close |
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lastnode |
sweet |
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lastnode |
ill def havea look at the man pages when i can, eythian |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
that's one of the things that needs to be done for getting in Debian ;) |
| 04:35 |
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lastnode |
though iev never written anything as srs as man pages before |
| 04:35 |
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lastnode |
as we all know, man pages are srs bznz |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
also, writing man pages is a handy skill if you don't know how already. |
| 04:36 |
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lastnode |
i wrote some man pages for that project i linked you to iirc |
| 04:36 |
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lastnode |
but it was a tiny project |
| 04:36 |
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eythian |
ah yeah. Well, this is just a number of tools, each of which is pretty small itself. |
| 04:36 |
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lastnode |
but in terms of reach, koha is huge |
| 04:37 |
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lastnode |
which is what i meant, really. ill need to do some reading before i begin, but ill def get down to it after term starts tomorrow |
| 04:37 |
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lastnode |
till then im just focusing on hardening the vps i haev setup and then adding 100 books as a pilot |
| 04:37 |
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lastnode |
and getting the librarian familiarised with koha |
| 04:37 |
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eythian |
cool. |
| 04:38 |
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lastnode |
btw im not sure if it's useful, but i ran into this bug |
| 04:38 |
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lastnode |
running koha remove |
| 04:38 |
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lastnode |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6416 |
| 04:38 |
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huginn |
Bug 6416: normal, P5, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove fails when dropping user |
| 04:38 |
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lastnode |
do welink to bugs fromteh wiki?it might be useful. i tore my hair out for a while before googling and realising it was a bug |
| 04:38 |
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eythian |
yeah, that's a weird one. I've not been able to reproduce it. |
| 04:39 |
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eythian |
It's fine to link to bugs. |
| 04:39 |
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eythian |
A "known or suspected issues" thing would probably be helpful. |
| 04:40 |
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lastnode |
ok |
| 04:40 |
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lastnode |
i ran into it, so ill try and reporduce it on my vm, eythian |
| 04:40 |
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eythian |
cool. A fix wouldn't go astry, either ;) |
| 04:40 |
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lastnode |
haha, ill have a look |
| 04:40 |
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lastnode |
but im not a great coder |
| 04:40 |
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eythian |
I'm not confident just putting in 'localhost' is ideal, especially if you're using a remote server. |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
hmm |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
I bet it needs a 'like' |
| 04:41 |
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lastnode |
btw koha will eventually replace koha-common? |
| 04:41 |
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lastnode |
package i mean,the koha package |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
not really |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
What I want is for the koha package to be a pre-setup thing |
| 04:41 |
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lastnode |
at the moment, koha-common is preferred. this implies that in teh future it will change |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
so, you install koha and it all works. |
| 04:41 |
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lastnode |
ok |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
as if you did 'koha-create --createdb koha' |
| 04:42 |
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lastnode |
right |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
but that turned out to be harder than I thought. |
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lastnode |
on a koha production box |
| 04:47 |
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lastnode |
is it recommended i run iptables |
| 04:48 |
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lastnode |
adn filter out everything except ssh and 80/8080 (I run intranet on 8080) |
| 04:48 |
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lastnode |
do we have security recommendations? |
| 04:48 |
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eythian |
that's standard good practice |
| 04:49 |
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lastnode |
ok |
| 04:49 |
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eythian |
the packages do fairly good security as it is, user separation and so on |
| 04:49 |
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lastnode |
also, i setup koha as root because i hadntcreated a non-root ssh user yet. |
| 04:49 |
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lastnode |
there's no difference in going back |
| 04:49 |
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lastnode |
and runnin geveryting as sudo again right |
| 04:49 |
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lastnode |
(afteri have a non-root ssh user setupo) |
| 04:50 |
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lastnode |
as in, there are no non-root commands in thesetup process, right? |
| 04:51 |
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eythian |
no, completely no difference |
| 04:51 |
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eythian |
all the koha stuff runs as "koha_*instance*" anyway. |
| 04:51 |
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eythian |
that's right |
| 04:51 |
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lastnode |
cool |
| 04:51 |
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lastnode |
sudo is just so people wont rm -rfrandom stuff |
| 04:51 |
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lastnode |
i guess |
| 04:51 |
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lastnode |
which i actually did, as root i rm -rf /etc/koha/ instead of /etc/koha/sitename |
| 04:52 |
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lastnode |
speaking of which, in thatintsance i did an apt-get purge |
| 04:52 |
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eythian |
heh yes, it makes that harder. |
| 04:52 |
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lastnode |
and i reinsttalled, but /etc/koha never came back |
| 04:52 |
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lastnode |
during the reinstall |
| 04:52 |
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eythian |
that seems surprising to me |
| 04:52 |
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lastnode |
is tehre something else i should have done? |
| 04:52 |
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lastnode |
in my paranoia, i nowhave my 10gig main fs on my vps |
| 04:52 |
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lastnode |
cloned |
| 04:53 |
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lastnode |
so if i do a foobar like that, illjust restore |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
not sure. I think there is something that that can be done to force it to restore conf-files. I would have thought a purge would allow them to come back though |
| 04:53 |
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lastnode |
ok |
| 04:54 |
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eythian |
(/etc stuff is handled differently, as it's expected that the user'll modify it) |
| 04:54 |
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lastnode |
ok |
| 04:55 |
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lastnode |
eythian: what is teh recommended backup procedure for koha atm |
| 04:56 |
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lastnode |
if i write a bash script, should i make it run koha-dump, then grab the files and scp them somewhere |
| 04:56 |
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lastnode |
or is tehre another method? |
| 04:56 |
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eythian |
the next release will have bug 6275 included. This means you can just grab them from /var/spool/koha |
| 04:56 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6275 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, Automated backups of data and config |
| 04:56 |
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lastnode |
ok |
| 04:56 |
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lastnode |
and apt-get upgrade will pull the new release in? |
| 04:56 |
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eythian |
but yeah, for now just have a cron job that runs koha-dump |
| 04:56 |
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eythian |
yep |
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lastnode |
eythian: also, i notice in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mykohasite |
| 04:57 |
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lastnode |
it has #transferlog and #rewritelog commented out for both virtualhosts |
| 04:57 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 04:57 |
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eythian |
people want different setups, so I just have a default that can be edited. |
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lastnode |
(opac and intranet). and /var/log/apache2/access.log doesnt show hits to those sites |
| 04:58 |
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lastnode |
ok, so by default, transfer log is turned off? |
| 04:58 |
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lastnode |
adn i turn it on by uncommenting? |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
no, by default it ends up under virtualhosts_access.log or something along those lines |
| 04:58 |
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lastnode |
oh, at whatpath? |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
/var/log/apache2 I think |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
but yeah, I usually turn it on |
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lastnode |
oh yeah it's tehre, eythian thanks |
| 05:01 |
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lastnode |
and there is a chinese ip who has hit :8080 |
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eythian |
it'll be a bot |
| 05:01 |
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lastnode |
only 2 people know this VPS exists lol |
| 05:01 |
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lastnode |
yeah, spam bots? |
| 05:02 |
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lastnode |
i guess they just scan linode subnets |
| 05:02 |
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eythian |
probably |
| 05:02 |
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eythian |
yeah, that'd be likely. |
| 05:03 |
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lastnode |
61.160.201.26 - - [03/Sep/2011:23:16:18 -0400] "GET //jmx-console/HtmlAdaptor HTTP/1.1" 302 202 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)" |
| 05:03 |
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lastnode |
it's looking for some JBOSS resource |
| 05:04 |
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lastnode |
anyway yeah, gotta keep an eye on the access log. if i enable #TransferLog for both vhosts, eythian, it will also log to other_vhosts_access.log? |
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eythian |
don't think so, no |
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eythian |
you can probably tell it to log to two places |
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eythian |
(actually, to be fair, I haven't checked to see if it logs to both or now) |
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eythian |
it appears it doesn't |
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lastnode |
ok, thanks eythian |
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lastnode |
i think having it in one access log makes sense for me |
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lastnode |
so the default option works fine |
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lastnode |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
I like to split it up when I'm hosting more than one on a server, just to see what sort of use each one is getting. |
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eythian |
But it's obviously up to what you want to do with it :) |
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cait |
ok, it stopped raining :) |
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lastnode |
eythian: the configs themselves, like System PReferences, Libraries Items etc. are all in the db right? |
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eythian |
yep |
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lastnode |
just trying to understand when i run koha-dump |
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lastnode |
which parts go to .sql.gz and which go to .tar.gz |
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eythian |
the .sql.gz is the most important, the rest can be recreated without too much difficulty. |
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eythian |
but having both of them means you can do a really fast recovery |
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eythian |
as it won't even need to reindex zebra |
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lastnode |
ok |
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lastnode |
recovery process is |
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lastnode |
koha-create --createb samedatabasename |
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lastnode |
and hten koha-restore samedatabasename |
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lastnode |
right? |
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lastnode |
assuming i ddid koha-dump samedatabasename on a remote box |
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eythian |
no, for using koha-restore, just do koha-restore instance.sql.gz instance.tar.gz (or similar) |
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eythian |
it'll do the create etc. itself. |
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lastnode |
oh, right |
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lastnode |
gotcha |
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eythian |
tbh, I usually find myself just using the db dump and importing from it. |
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lastnode |
i think someone toldme otherwise here a while back |
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lastnode |
yeah as in using mysql itself? |
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eythian |
yeah |
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lastnode |
what does tar.gz have though |
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lastnode |
just zebra indexes? |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ages#koha-restore |
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eythian |
the contents of /var/koha/instancename and /etc/koha/instancename |
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lastnode |
oh, right.thanks eythian |
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good morning #koha |
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alex_a |
hello all |
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kf |
hi alex_a |
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lastnode |
hi kf hi alex_a |
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lastnode |
o/ |
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hi lastnode |
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hello |
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lastnode |
hi reiveune |
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hi hdl |
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kf_away |
hm |
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kf_away |
is someone aware of a problem with adding items from staged marc import? |
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kf_away |
the report tells me 13 items were added, but I see none of them on my records |
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kf_away |
foudn the problem... |
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kf_away |
a problem in my data, but I wonder why it said successful |
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lastnode |
kf_away: could it have something to do with this bug? - http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6713 |
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huginn |
Bug 6713: critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , marc import not matching |
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kf_away |
lastnode: thx :) |
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kf_away |
lastnode: I was not using matching rules, so no. I had the branch code wrong in my data, trying again now |
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lastnode |
ok |
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lastnode |
you might want to to file a bug repor then, kf_away? |
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kf_away |
yeah, will try to |
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kf_away |
have to finish this tests first |
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rangi |
evening |
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kf_away |
hi rangi |
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kf_away |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
kf_away: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.2�C (9:59 AM CEST on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). |
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kf_away |
Checked out to Benutzer A : due 26/09/2011 On hold for Benutzer B expected at BSZ-Bibliothek since 05/09/2011 ? |
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kf_away |
does this make sense? |
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rangi |
yep |
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kf_away |
ok |
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kf_away |
I don't understand the expected part |
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kf_away |
because it's still checked out and the due_date is 26th |
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kf_away |
so why would it be expected to be at the bsz-bibliothek since 5th? |
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rangi |
because it was marked as on transfer to there on the 5th |
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rangi |
but someone then issued it out after that |
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kf_away |
hm |
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kf_away |
doesn't make sense to me |
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kf_away |
my item was not on transfer |
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rangi |
it was marked waiting on the 5th |
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kf_away |
hm |
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rangi |
so was returned then |
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kf_away |
still doesn't make sense |
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rangi |
does to me |
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kf_away |
because: new item |
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kf_away |
checked out to a |
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kf_away |
hold for b |
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kf_away |
and that's the status after that |
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kf_away |
I was creating test cases for sip testing, so I did everything from scratch |
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kf_away |
this item has never been returned |
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rangi |
and you didnt place the hold before you added the item? |
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kf_away |
how would I do that? |
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kf_away |
you can't place holds on records without items? |
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rangi |
on the biblio |
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rangi |
i can |
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kf_away |
hm never tried it, but no |
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kf_away |
I imported record and item together |
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rangi |
id check the db, check the reserves table, and the transfers table |
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rangi |
see if the status is w |
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kf_away |
reserves has one hold |
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kf_away |
found is null |
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kf_away |
hm tansfers table? |
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kf_away |
which is that? |
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kf_away |
ah branchtransfers |
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kf_away |
almost empty, only one entry for different itemnumber |
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rangi |
[% IF ( itemloo.waitingdate ) %] at[% ELSE %]expected at |
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rangi |
is waitingdate set? |
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kf_away |
null |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
so if the item has a reserve date |
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rangi |
but no waitingdate |
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rangi |
it will say expected at |
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rangi |
if it has a waitingdate it will just say at |
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kf_away |
I feel dumb |
| 08:38 |
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kf_away |
but I don#t get the expected part really |
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kf_away |
why not say, on hold since.... |
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rangi |
since |
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kf_away |
or expected at due_date |
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rangi |
[% IF ( itemloo.waitingdate ) %][% itemloo.waitingdate %] |
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rangi |
[% ELSE %] |
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rangi |
[% IF ( itemloo.reservedate ) %][% itemloo.reservedate %][% END %] |
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rangi |
[% END %] |
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rangi |
lemme git blame it |
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rangi |
right its pre template toolkit |
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kf_away |
but does it still make sense to you? or is it me not getting what it's trying to tell me? |
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kf_away |
it only occurs for item level holds |
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kf_away |
if that helps |
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kf_away |
my title level holds only say: checked out to |
| 08:41 |
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rangi |
been like that since 2004 |
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kf_away |
hmpf |
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rangi |
sorry 2007 december 24 |
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kf_away |
not much better |
| 08:42 |
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kf_away |
I ould file a bug report and see what others say - perhaps liz can make sense of it |
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rangi |
well it makes sense to me, its saying the oldest reserve has been there since the 5th, and it needs to go to such and such branch to fill it |
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kf_away |
oh |
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kf_away |
bug 4298 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4298 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , title detail display: improve the verbiage related to item level holds |
| 08:44 |
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kf_away |
and I see, I got the order wrong |
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kf_away |
to me it sounds like: it's expected since , but the date still belongs to the hold part |
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kf_away |
On hold for Benutzer B expected at BSZ-Bibliothek since 05/09/2011 |
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kf_away |
so more clear (to me) would be: On hold for ... since ... expected at ... |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
id change expected to |
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rangi |
if you are going to rearrange it |
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rangi |
on hold for .. at .... since ... |
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kf_away |
that good too |
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kf_away |
I think the expected part makes it confusing |
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kf_away |
I am updating the bug |
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kf_away |
rangi++ |
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kf_away |
thx for helping me figure it out :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6318] fields missing when editing a layout <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6318> |
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slef |
grrr turnkey linux |
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slef |
hi all |
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rangi |
you saw taht too? |
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slef |
tried to reply, got AV test |
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rangi |
yep |
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kf_away |
hi slef |
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slef |
anyone know if the koha blogs yahoo pipe is OK? |
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rangi |
hmm not me |
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slef |
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/p[…]17a5ee0e15ed6ca48 |
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slef |
and bleah, nengard is the only admin and is afk right? |
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slef |
http://pipes.yahoo.com/nengard/kohablogs even |
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rangi |
shes on vacation, well deserved and yeah pipes is lame like that, pity theres nothing that does the same thing |
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lastnode |
kf_away: there? |
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wahanui |
there is no spoon. |
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lastnode |
botsnack wahanui |
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kf_away |
lastnode: half |
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kf_away |
wahanui botsnack gummibärchen |
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wahanui |
thanks kf_away :) |
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lastnode |
kf_away: im just wrapping my head around dewey/cutter. was wondering if i could ask you some noob questions |
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* lastnode |
is not a librarian |
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lastnode |
the librarian at school is not a trained one either. it is a small library and we are both still learning |
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kf_away |
I am not sure I can help you with dewey |
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kf_away |
it's not widely used in Geramny |
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lastnode |
ohok |
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lastnode |
what do you guys use? |
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kf_away |
there are different things |
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kf_away |
public libraries often use asb, academic sometimes use rvk |
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kf_away |
a lot of libraries have their own classifications |
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kf_away |
lastnode: what did you wan to know? |
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lastnode |
when koha pulls in stuff from z39.50 searches |
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lastnode |
adn pulls in the dcc number |
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lastnode |
can i safely assuem it is a standard |
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lastnode |
? |
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mtj |
dcc is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification |
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mtj |
dcc? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it dcc is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification |
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kf_away |
ddc is a standard |
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kf_away |
but I think how far you go using it depends on the library |
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kf_away |
how deep down in the hierarchy |
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lastnode |
ok |
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lastnode |
im talking after the decimal mainl,y kf_away |
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lastnode |
and i meant ddc, not dcc, my bad |
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lastnode |
(before the decimal is pretty easy) |
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kf_away |
wahanui: ddc is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification |
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wahanui |
...but ddc is a standard... |
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kf_away |
forget ddc |
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wahanui |
kf_away: I forgot ddc |
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kf_away |
ddc is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D[…]al_Classification |
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kf_away |
perhaps jcamins can help you here |
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jcamins |
What's the question? |
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jcamins |
My hosting provider had a major DOS incident overnight. |
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lastnode |
jcamins: im trying to wrap my head around dewey/cutter because the librarian at the school i work is not a real librarian (administrative assistant onwhom 'librarian' was thrust) |
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lastnode |
and we're both trying to get the basics down as we deploy koha |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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jcamins |
Well, DDC is pretty straightforward, really. |
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lastnode |
im familiar now with ddc number / cutter number / work mark |
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lastnode |
but the decimal is confusing (seconday classification) |
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jcamins |
http://www.oclc.org/dewey/vers[…]22print/intro.pdf |
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jcamins |
What's confusing about it? |
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lastnode |
jcamins: more than one discipline etc. but this pdf is great, thanks |
| 11:45 |
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lastnode |
jcamins: is there a (semi)central dewey authority/server |
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lastnode |
i can just query when im not sure? |
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lastnode |
will z39.50 searches/imports from reputed targets (LOC etc.) return a fairly standard dcc call number for every entry? |
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jcamins |
There is no central server other htan OCLC. |
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jcamins |
LC will always have a DDC. |
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jcamins |
I don't think anyone else is guaranteed to have one. |
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lastnode |
ok jcamins |
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wahanui |
jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
| 11:47 |
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jcamins |
Looks like OSS Labs is busy. |
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lastnode |
by ocllc you mean http://deweybrowser.oclc.org/ddcbrowser2/ right? |
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lastnode |
server is timing out atm |
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jcamins |
No. |
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jcamins |
I mean you have to have a subscription to OCLC. |
| 11:48 |
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jcamins |
The paid version of Worldcat. |
| 11:48 |
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lastnode |
oh right |
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lastnode |
i guess ill stick with the LOC for now |
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lastnode |
*LC. thanks jcamins |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. |
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jcamins |
Good luck. |
| 11:51 |
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lastnode |
jcamins: most of the library is fiction. is it ok to just use 812 (for example) and then include a cutter number + work mark? |
| 11:51 |
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jcamins |
If it's fiction, I recommend against using call numbers at all. |
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lastnode |
ok |
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jcamins |
Or, rather, classification numbers. |
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lastnode |
just use cutter directly? |
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jcamins |
Use something like: J FIC COL |
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jcamins |
Faster for the cataloger. |
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lastnode |
jcamins: but we'dwant to use a classification system that is scalable |
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lastnode |
int eh long run, to include other books too |
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lastnode |
hmmm |
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jcamins |
For the nonfiction books, you need to use DDC. |
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jcamins |
That's the way most public and school libraries in the US work- fiction doesn't have classification numbers, just simple call numbers. |
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lastnode |
jcamins: bc then a ton of books have 812, for xample |
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lastnode |
and fiction is such a huge genre |
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lastnode |
right |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
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lastnode |
jcamins: J FIC COL |
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lastnode |
i get FIC |
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lastnode |
whatis J and COL? |
| 11:56 |
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jcamins |
Juvenile and the first three letters of the author's last name, respectively. :) |
| 11:57 |
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lastnode |
jcamins: is there a guide for this classification? |
| 11:57 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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lastnode |
so what other variables go in the J column |
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lastnode |
Juvenile / Adult |
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jcamins |
Just J. |
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lastnode |
ok |
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jcamins |
In most libraries, it's either FIC COL for an adult book or J FIC COL for a juvenile book. |
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lastnode |
ok |
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lastnode |
jcamins: so for shakespeare it would be FIC SHA and then we'd need to have a unique number to identify the play itself |
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lastnode |
i apologise if many of these questions are very basic. i realise that this channel is full of librarians! |
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jcamins |
Well, that's not really fiction. |
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jcamins |
That's more like "literature." |
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lastnode |
right, that was maybe a bad example |
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lastnode |
so they would be DDC numbered |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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lastnode |
and i guess as we go alon gand make mistakes we can always reclassify |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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lastnode |
but say if it's GRI for Grisham |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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lastnode |
we'd need anotherunique number for The Pelikan Brief |
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lastnode |
and another unique for each copy |
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jcamins |
Not necessarily. |
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jcamins |
The person reshelving needs to put the books in alphabetical order. |
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lastnode |
and the call number is basically for that, got it |
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jcamins |
If they're in alphabetical order, people will be able to find the book they need, even if several books share the same call number. |
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lastnode |
right, yeah |
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lastnode |
and i guess each book can have a serial/barcode for us to keep track of both editions and copies |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
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jcamins |
The serial/barcode is key. |
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jcamins |
The call number is for the user, the barcode is for the staff. |
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lastnode |
for barcodes, koha defaults to 000x or YYYY-000x |
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lastnode |
i guess YYYY-000x is morescalable |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
At least, that's my opinion. |
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jcamins |
The benefit of the other scheme, though, is that it's easier to make preprinted labels. |
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lastnode |
jcamins: thanks again |
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lastnode |
just leaving work ill be back online ina while |
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this is the lastnode that I will say these words. I remember the firstnode. The first of many lies. |
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slef |
Sweep it into the corner, or hide it under the bed. Say these nodes they go away, but they never do. |
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slef |
Some node I wasn't sure of, but I was in the middle of. Some node I forget now, but I've seen too little of. |
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thinks it's clearly time for lunch. Overwork is starting to show. |
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mtj |
hmmm , koha list is down? |
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mtj |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/ |
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lastnode |
jcamins: oh, right. i guess you could potentially print 500 for each year? :) |
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druthb |
mornin'. |
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lastnode |
hi druthb |
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lastnode: yeah, but how confident would you be that you're going to use all 500? |
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jcamins |
Morning, druthb. :) |
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druthb |
@wunder sioux falls, sd |
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druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 8.0�C (7:56 AM CDT on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
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lastnode |
that's true, jcamins :) |
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lastnode |
jcamins: i guess starting frm 0000 makes it easier |
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lastnode |
if yo want to pre-preint labels |
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lastnode |
and it is an option. it's not like having the year makes it a lot easier to find stuff |
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jcamins |
The advantage of having the year is that it makes it easier to search through paper accession records. |
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lastnode |
that's true |
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mtj: main site looks up. Worth an email to info katipo you think? |
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bye |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5916] Don't show the link to edit authorities to people who don't have permissions to edit <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5916> |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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druthb |
hi, cait! :) |
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cait |
hi druthb:) |
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jcamins |
Where should I have photos printed? |
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cait |
no idea :) |
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cait |
hi jared |
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druthb |
I've done photo printing at Kinko's before, and they did a good job. |
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jcamins |
Costco has 4x6 prints for $0.13. |
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jcamins |
$0.09 at FedEx Office. |
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jcamins |
Apparently FedEx office uses Snapfish. |
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rangi |
morning |
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druthb |
hi, rangi! |
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cait |
morning rangi :) |
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rangi |
heya traveller, where you at now? |
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druthb |
Sioux Falls, SD. Lovely campground, but chilly early in the morning, for tenters. was 7C this morning. |
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rangi |
ahh that sounds like wellington mornings :) |
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rangi |
@wunder wellington nz |
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rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0�C (6:00 AM NZST on September 06, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder sioux falls, SD |
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huginn |
druthb: The current temperature in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 20.0�C (1:56 PM CDT on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling). |
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druthb |
Warmed up a bunch so far... |
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rangi |
20 is nice |
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druthb |
yeah. The minion thinks it's still cold. |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.7�C (9:38 PM CEST on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
brr |
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cait |
autumn like here :( |
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druthb |
I started a campfire this morning, let that run for a while, and worked at the picnic table close by. :) |
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rangi |
sweet |
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druthb |
Got enough wood here for a fire tonight, too. :) |
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rangi |
and marshmallows? :) |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 22.7�C (12:44 PM PDT on September 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). |
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bg |
be hard to beat that today |
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rangi |
heya bg |
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bg |
hey a rangi |
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rangi |
quiet day in the us today eh? |
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druthb |
very |
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rangi |
u know it'd suck for the librarians working it |
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rangi |
but I think public holidays are the best day for them to be open |
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bg |
ok I'll bbiab |
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bg |
lunch time here |
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rangi |
cool |
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rangi |
its always the museums busiest days here |
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cait |
good night all |
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rangi |
cya cait |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
sup trea |
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druthb |
o/ |
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rangi |
wb druthb |
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druthb |
thanks! :) |
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trea |
o/ |
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trea |
hi rangi |
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druthb |
hi, trea! |
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em |
Can anyone help me with zebra? |
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em |
i know absolutly nothing :( |
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em |
all of my searches are broken, i have re-indexed zebra and still nothing |
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em |
it stopped working after update :( |
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rangi |
what did you update? |
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em |
everything, went to newest update |
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rangi |
which is? |
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em |
3.4.40 |
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rangi |
didnt you install that already ? |
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em |
yes, but i cant get zebra to work |
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em |
i dont know anything about it |
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rangi |
is zebrasrv running? |
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em |
yes |
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rangi |
and you have zebra switched on system preferences? |
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em |
i am pretty sure i do |
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em |
i will check |
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rangi |
and when you reindex do you do it as the same user that is running zebrasrv |
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rangi |
also try the reindex with -v |
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rangi |
to see if it outputs any errors |
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em |
ok |
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em |
just a sec |
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em |
is zebra in sys prefrences? |
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rangi |
nozebra |
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rangi |
make sure its not set to use nozebra |
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em |
what does the prefrence NoZebraIndexes do? |
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rangi |
nothing |
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wahanui |
nothing is ever gone in git |
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em |
ok |
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em |
the prefrence NoZebra is set to USe |
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em |
is that good? |
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em |
... |
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rangi |
im at work, gimme a minute |
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em |
ok |
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rangi |
yes, it should be set to use |
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em |
ok |
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em |
what should i rebuild? |
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em |
nozebra or zebra |
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rangi |
zebra |
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rangi |
never nozebra |
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em |
ok |
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rangi |
do it with -b -x -v -r |
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rangi |
as the switches |
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em |
ok |
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em |
doing it right now |
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em |
could not select database - error 109 |
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rangi |
theres your problem |
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em |
and i would fix this how? |
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rangi |
are you 100% sure you are running zebrasrv and the rebuild_zebra as the same user? |
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em |
umm |
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em |
what user is the default? kohaadmin |
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rangi |
no |
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em |
what is the default? |
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wahanui |
the default is ports for those who dont have access/skills to run dns |
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rangi |
whatever you chose when installing |
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rangi |
how are you running zebrasrv? |
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em |
ubuntu |
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rangi |
no, how are you running it, how is it started? |
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em |
it does it by itself |
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em |
when i turn it on |
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em |
i used the koha live cd |
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em |
how do you switch users in the terminal? |
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rangi |
first we have to find what user is running zebrasrv |
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rangi |
look in /etc/init.d/ |
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em |
ok |
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rangi |
is there a file koha-zebra-daemon ? |
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em |
yes |
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rangi |
less that file |
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em |
what? |
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em |
open it? |
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rangi |
yes |
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em |
ok |
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em |
ok, what am i looking for? |
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rangi |
less /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
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rangi |
is what i would do |
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rangi |
at the top |
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rangi |
USER=something |
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rangi |
what is something |
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em |
USER=koha |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
so zebrasrv is running as koha |
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em |
ok |
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rangi |
so you need to run rebuild_zebra as koha |
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em |
how do i do that, |
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em |
sudo ...? |
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rangi |
where is your koha-conf.xml file? |
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rangi |
2 ways you can do it |
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em |
ok |
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em |
i am searching for it |
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em |
/etc/koha |
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rangi |
sudo -u koha KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha-conf.xml perl -I /usr/share/koha/lib /path/to/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -r |
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em |
wow |
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em |
ok |
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rangi |
(fix the /path/to bits) |
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rangi |
or you can sudo su - koha |
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em |
ok |
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rangi |
and export KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB etc |
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em |
wow, slow down here :) do i incude /koha-conf.xml ? or just /etc/koha |
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rangi |
include koha-conf.xml |
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em |
ok |
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em |
wait ... |
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em |
command not found |
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em |
nevermind |
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em |
cant open perl script |
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em |
nevermind again |
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em |
no errors, but in log it says permission denied zebra_lock_create fail |
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em |
search still broken |
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rangi |
right i suspect whats happened is you ran it as root once right? |
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rangi |
and the permissions are now all messed up |
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em |
opps |
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rangi |
so zebrasrv cant read the files |
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em |
opps |
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rangi |
does it give the full path? |
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em |
yes |
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rangi |
can you paste that in please |
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em |
ok |
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em |
i have to do manuly as i am on diff. computer |
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em |
did you want all of them or just one? |
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rangi |
is it /var/lib/koha ? |
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em |
no] |
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rangi |
/var/lock/koha ? |
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em |
it is /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/norm.. |
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rangi |
right |
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rangi |
can you do this |
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em |
it is /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/shadow.. |
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em |
ok |
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rangi |
sudo chown -R koha:koha /var/lock/koha |
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rangi |
and then |
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rangi |
sudo chown -R koha:koha /var/lib/koha |
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rangi |
then hit the up arrow a few times till you get the rebuild command back, and run that again |
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em |
ok |
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em |
:D |
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em |
i think it worked |
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em |
testing |
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em |
nope |
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em |
still broke |
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rangi |
you will have to restart zebrasrv |
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em |
but no errors as far as i can see |
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em |
ok |
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em |
how do i do that |
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rangi |
sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon restart |
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rangi |
(no more error 109 eh?) |
| 21:53 |
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em |
yep :) |
| 21:53 |
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em |
fatal error |
| 21:53 |
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em |
failed to find pid for koha-zebra-ctl.koha : no such file or directory |
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rangi |
k so it wasnt running |
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rangi |
sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start |
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em |
oh, it said it was though |
| 21:54 |
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em |
Starting Zebra Server |
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rangi |
ps axf | grep "zebrasrv" |
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rangi |
check its running |
| 21:55 |
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em |
what do i enter after that |
| 21:55 |
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em |
it just goes to > |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
you must have missed a " then |
| 21:56 |
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em |
opps, i did ;) |
| 21:56 |
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em |
how do i get out? |
| 21:56 |
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rangi |
ctrl-c |
| 21:56 |
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em |
thanks ;) |
| 21:57 |
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em |
it brings up a bunch of random things with zebrasrv in red |
| 21:57 |
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rangi |
is there one |
| 21:57 |
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rangi |
zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 21:57 |
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em |
? |
| 21:57 |
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rangi |
that looks like that |
| 21:57 |
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em |
umm, looking |
| 21:58 |
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em |
it does not look like it |
| 21:58 |
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em |
oh |
| 21:58 |
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rangi |
what ones are there |
| 21:58 |
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em |
yes |
| 21:58 |
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rangi |
k, try a search now |
| 21:58 |
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em |
there is 2 lines of random crap, then it goes that |
| 21:58 |
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em |
nope |
| 21:58 |
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em |
search broken |
| 21:58 |
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rangi |
heh, theres nothing random about it |
| 21:59 |
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rangi |
ah well, im afraid im out of time, i have to do some work now |
| 21:59 |
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em |
ok |
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em |
:( |
| 21:59 |
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rangi |
but its definitely to do with you messing up the permissions |
| 21:59 |
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em |
should i re-do the update? |
| 21:59 |
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rangi |
no |
| 21:59 |
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rangi |
you might want to learn a bit about linux server administration though |
| 22:00 |
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em |
ok, how would i fix the perrmissions then? |
| 22:00 |
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rangi |
running a server isnt easy, and understanding basics like users and permissions etc are vital before you try to admin a server |
| 22:00 |
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em |
:/ |
| 22:00 |
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rangi |
id suggest finding a good intro to linux book and reading it |
| 22:00 |
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em |
that sound boring ;) |
| 22:00 |
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* rangi |
goes back to work |
| 22:01 |
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em |
ok |
| 22:01 |
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em |
thanks for your help |
| 22:01 |
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em |
:) |
| 22:03 |
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em |
Anyone else wanna test there skils in koha and ubuntu ;) ??? |
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em |
meeting on september 7th ... that might be a good time to show up ;) |
| 22:06 |
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em |
well, if anyone has any help they could email me at emery.cairnsgmail.com -- i am going to find something to do :( |
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em |
still here ;) |
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| 23:54 |
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em |
i need help, error on make test for upgrade to 3.04.04 error : C4:PRINT failed to find template.pm in @INC |
| 23:54 |
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em |
Failed test 'use C4::Print' |
| 23:56 |
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em |
anyone? |
| 23:57 |
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eythian |
you probably don't have Template::Toolkit installed |
| 23:57 |
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em |
how do i install that? |
| 23:57 |
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eythian |
well, are you upgrading from 3.2? |
| 23:58 |
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em |
yes |
| 23:58 |
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eythian |
you're on Debian/Ubuntu? |
| 23:58 |
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em |
yes |
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eythian |
sudo aptitude install libtemplate-toolkit-perl should do it |
| 23:58 |
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em |
ok\ |
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em |
that will fix it? |
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eythian |
try it and find out |
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em |
ok |
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eythian |
but I expect so |
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em |
ok |
