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| 00:00 |
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jcamins |
Wait... |
| 00:01 |
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jcamins |
This conversation seems familiar. |
| 00:01 |
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rangi |
*nod* |
| 00:01 |
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jcamins |
I mean, not the one with IndexData. I wasn't there for that part of it. |
| 00:01 |
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rangi |
its annoyingly familiar but i cant remember specifics |
| 00:02 |
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jcamins |
I mean, you and I discussed this. |
| 00:02 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 00:02 |
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Judit |
pancakes??? |
| 00:02 |
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wahanui |
pancakes are always good |
| 00:02 |
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jcamins |
I remember the conclusion was "good grief, no wonder relevancy doesn't work!!!" |
| 00:03 |
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rangi |
yeah and then at the hackfest we discovered that yes, yet again, we are doing dumb things |
| 00:03 |
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rangi |
but i cant remember the specific fix |
| 00:03 |
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rangi |
i hope sekjal can |
| 00:03 |
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jcamins |
Me too. |
| 00:03 |
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rangi |
i took notes, but cant find them ;( |
| 00:06 |
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| 00:07 |
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bg |
rangi jcamins aren't you talking about the attributes? |
| 00:07 |
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rangi |
maybe |
| 00:08 |
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rangi |
what i want is a way to weight title and author higher than the rest |
| 00:08 |
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rangi |
im sure can do so by changing a file ccl.properties maybe |
| 00:08 |
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jcamins |
I feel like that should be in ccl.properties, but I feel like I actually *found* where we were doing it at some point, and I'm just not seeing it in ccl.properties. |
| 00:08 |
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jcamins |
Oh, wait. |
| 00:09 |
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jcamins |
I remember. |
| 00:09 |
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rangi |
# Rank Weights |
| 00:09 |
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bg |
isn't there a cql file? |
| 00:09 |
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jcamins |
bg: yes, but the Zebra side of the configuration is in ccl.properties, because that's what Search.pm uses. |
| 00:10 |
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bg |
right there is a cql file for koha - also... |
| 00:10 |
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jcamins |
rangi: search for "Keyword, or, no index specified" in Search.pm (somewhere around line 768). |
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jcamins |
Cry. |
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jcamins |
bg: yes. |
| 00:10 |
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rangi |
ta |
| 00:10 |
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rangi |
bg: yes but we dont use it |
| 00:10 |
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rangi |
because C4::Search is crap |
| 00:11 |
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jcamins |
You know, making that part user-configurable wouldn't even be that hard. |
| 00:12 |
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jcamins |
I mean, that's all in Perl. |
| 00:13 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 00:14 |
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rangi |
oh god |
| 00:14 |
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* rangi |
weeps |
| 00:15 |
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rangi |
right, well i have to change this for a client, ill see what i can do to make it configurable |
| 00:15 |
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jcamins |
Horrifying, isn't it? |
| 00:16 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 00:18 |
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jcamins |
Ooh look, I correctly guessed who had written it. |
| 00:32 |
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libsysguy1 |
how would I add "<link rel="stylesheet" href="mobile.css" type="text/css" media="handheld" />" without editing koha base code? |
| 00:33 |
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libsysguy1 |
can i do it in an opac pref? |
| 00:33 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 00:33 |
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rangi |
opac css |
| 00:33 |
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rangi |
i forget the exact name |
| 00:33 |
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libsysguy1 |
so the opacusercss |
| 00:33 |
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rangi |
thats a text area one eh? |
| 00:33 |
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libsysguy1 |
interesting |
| 00:33 |
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wahanui |
well, interesting is sometimes bad |
| 00:33 |
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libsysguy1 |
yeah it is |
| 00:33 |
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eythian |
won't that put it inside a style block? |
| 00:33 |
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rangi |
slap it in there and see if it shows up ;) |
| 00:33 |
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rangi |
you can be tricky |
| 00:33 |
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rangi |
</style> |
| 00:34 |
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rangi |
blah |
| 00:34 |
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rangi |
<style> |
| 00:34 |
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libsysguy1 |
haha clever |
| 00:35 |
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pastebot |
"mtj" at 122.59.254.107 pasted "oops" (91 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1909 |
| 00:36 |
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rangi |
? |
| 00:37 |
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eythian |
that's not so hot |
| 00:38 |
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eythian |
I mean, to start with, who uses an Apple machine? |
| 00:38 |
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Judit |
i am |
| 00:38 |
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Judit |
10.6 |
| 00:38 |
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jcamins |
1909? Shouldn't we be in the low hundreds? |
| 00:39 |
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rangi |
its been up a while |
| 00:39 |
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rangi |
must be due for a flush soon |
| 00:40 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, spammers have found it. |
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rangi |
flushed |
| 00:44 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 01:28 |
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mtj |
ps: sorry about that paste before, was sposed to be a private one :/ |
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eythian |
http://i.imgur.com/Kxigd.jpg <-- here you go mtj, this'll make you feel better |
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BrookeenTauride |
0/ |
| 02:32 |
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jcamins |
eythian: how do you access the staff client with the packages? |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
jcamins: you go to the URL the corresponds to whatever you set up |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
typically something like <library>-admin |
| 02:33 |
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eythian |
but it's configurable |
| 02:33 |
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jcamins |
Shouldn't it have asked me about how I wanted to configure it? |
| 02:34 |
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rangi |
you had to set it up in the config file |
| 02:34 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 02:34 |
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jcamins |
I think your packages work better than mine, because I did this in the past with your packages, and they Just Worked. |
| 02:34 |
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eythian |
I don't know what it does if you don't set it up, probably makes it the same name for each one, which will upset apache |
| 02:35 |
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eythian |
have a look in the apache config to see what it did |
| 02:35 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ueeze#Quick_Start <-- that bit there |
| 02:35 |
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jcamins |
rangi: thanks. |
| 02:36 |
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| 02:36 |
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BrookeenTauride |
So I have a beef with my unpaid for Catalyst support. |
| 02:36 |
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BrookeenTauride |
There doesn't appear to be a good synching over here with Beervana. |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
what are you talking about? |
| 02:37 |
|
eythian |
I have my ticket |
| 02:37 |
|
eythian |
if you didn't get in on time, that's hardly our fault |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
in fact, I have a 9:30am AGM at a pub, followed by beervana |
| 02:37 |
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BrookeenTauride |
totally your fault I don't have beer :P |
| 02:38 |
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BrookeenTauride |
but for serious, I hope it is teh awesome Robin :) |
| 02:38 |
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eythian |
I expect that it will be :) |
| 02:42 |
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jcamins |
Okay, apparently making my own packages doesn't work. |
| 02:43 |
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BrookeenTauride |
what's the failure point? |
| 02:47 |
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jcamins |
The default Apache page insists on coming up. |
| 02:47 |
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eythian |
jcamins: I'll trade you: explain how analytics (with 000-7 set to 's') differs from volumes (with 000-19 set to 'a') from sets (with 000-19 set to 'c') |
| 02:48 |
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| 02:48 |
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eythian |
and how I want to be setting up these things, which are, e.g. a song book containing multiple songs, or a file containing multiple names (of text clipopings) |
| 02:48 |
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eythian |
s/pop/pp/ |
| 02:49 |
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eythian |
in return, I'll tell you that you don't have NameVirtualHost enable quite right, and start by doing a2disable 000-default |
| 02:49 |
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jcamins |
eythian: 000-7 is for a serial publication with more than one items. |
| 02:50 |
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jcamins |
s/items/articles in it/ |
| 02:51 |
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jcamins |
A volume (000/07=m 000/19=a) is a book consisting of more than one article. |
| 02:52 |
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jcamins |
000/07=m 000/19=b/c is a part of another item. |
| 02:52 |
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jcamins |
Clear? |
| 02:52 |
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eythian |
all except that last part. |
| 02:52 |
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jcamins |
An analytic entry would have 000/07=a or 000/07=b |
| 02:52 |
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eythian |
oh wait |
| 02:52 |
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eythian |
I see |
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| 02:53 |
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jcamins |
Figured out the problem. |
| 02:54 |
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jcamins |
Forgot to run a2ensite. |
| 02:54 |
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eythian |
so I'd use 000/07=m 000/19=a for the parent, and 000/07=m 000/19=b/c for the parts |
| 02:54 |
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eythian |
a2ensite runs automatically, unless you hadn't enabled rewrite the first time and it spat the dummy cos of that |
| 02:54 |
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eythian |
what actually is/are "analytics" in this context anyway? |
| 02:55 |
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jcamins |
eythian: ah, that's probably what happened. |
| 02:55 |
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jcamins |
Analytics are records for things that make up a part of something else. |
| 02:55 |
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jcamins |
Usually articles. |
| 02:55 |
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BrookeenTauride |
it's describing the big thing and the little thing simultaneously |
| 02:55 |
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BrookeenTauride |
so if you're doing a World Book |
| 02:56 |
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BrookeenTauride |
your doing the set of encyclopaedia |
| 02:56 |
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BrookeenTauride |
AND the volume you're looking at, say S |
| 02:56 |
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eythian |
I see. so how does that differ from sets? |
| 02:57 |
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BrookeenTauride |
the little part lets you add in more detail than you could get away with on the big one |
| 02:57 |
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eythian |
but sets are little parts, too |
| 02:57 |
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BrookeenTauride |
all great danes are dogs, but all dogs are not great danes |
| 02:57 |
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eythian |
from what I can tell in the code |
| 02:57 |
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eythian |
because a set links to the Control number of a parent record |
| 02:58 |
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BrookeenTauride |
you might go into exhaustive detail about table of contents stuff, for instance that would apply to a member of the set where you couldn't cataloguing the series since it's not a common thinger. |
| 02:59 |
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eythian |
hmm OK |
| 02:59 |
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eythian |
I think I see enough to make this work |
| 03:00 |
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jcamins |
What are you trying to do? |
| 03:01 |
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eythian |
jcamins: Make it so if you look for a song, it links to the song book. |
| 03:01 |
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eythian |
or when you search for a local person, it shows you the file with clippings about them |
| 03:01 |
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BrookeenTauride |
neat |
| 03:04 |
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jcamins |
Oops. I needed to run the upgrade to 3.4 script. |
| 03:04 |
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jcamins |
eythian: ah. That's gonna be a teeny bit complicated. |
| 03:04 |
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eythian |
well, they have the records in place, and I've linked them up using 773$w and 001 |
| 03:05 |
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eythian |
I just need to know how to tell Koha to show them properly |
| 03:05 |
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jcamins |
Oh, in that case, it should work properly. |
| 03:07 |
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jcamins |
What's happening with it? |
| 03:08 |
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eythian |
two things: one is a koha issue, rcn isn't being indexed, the other is it's using words that don't fit. |
| 03:08 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 03:09 |
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jcamins |
rcn should be indexed. |
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| 03:10 |
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jcamins |
kf submitted a patch for that. |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
$ grep rcn etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs | wc -l |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
0 |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
not in the file, though I should see when the patch is for |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
I'm on about 3.4.2 or so here |
| 03:11 |
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jcamins |
It should be Control-number. |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
no |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
Record-control-number |
| 03:12 |
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wahanui |
Record-control-number is an index in koha, not used in the 29.50 search options |
| 03:12 |
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jcamins |
(not rcn- that's supplied by ccl.properties) |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
oh? |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
hmm |
| 03:13 |
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kmkale |
Namaskar #koha |
| 03:13 |
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jcamins |
eythian: how do I make Zebra start automatically? |
| 03:13 |
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eythian |
it just does |
| 03:14 |
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BrookeenTauride |
namaste |
| 03:14 |
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jcamins |
eythian: oh, excellent. :) |
| 03:14 |
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eythian |
the /etc/init.d/koha-common takes care of it |
| 03:14 |
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BrookeenTauride |
automagically++ |
| 03:14 |
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eythian |
if you do a restart of that, it'll show you |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
so I'm looking at a record with: |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
773 ## - HOST ITEM ENTRY |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
w Record control number 140680.7129 |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
but getting: No results match your search for 'rcn:140680.7129'. |
| 03:15 |
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jcamins |
Cool! It does work. |
| 03:15 |
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eythian |
anyone have ideas? |
| 03:16 |
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eythian |
ohh |
| 03:16 |
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eythian |
I bet I know |
| 03:16 |
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jcamins |
eythian: unfortunately I don't have any test data for it. |
| 03:16 |
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eythian |
ah, I had an old ccl.properties |
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eythian |
in my dev system |
| 03:17 |
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jcamins |
That explains it. |
| 03:17 |
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eythian |
very annoyingly, this would have just worked fine on the client's staging system |
| 03:17 |
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eythian |
because it uses more current files |
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eythian |
What is a "Festschrift"? |
| 03:25 |
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eythian |
Looks like "party writing" |
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BrookeenTauride |
it's a cheerleading thing |
| 03:25 |
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BrookeenTauride |
like a work of suckuppery |
| 03:26 |
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BrookeenTauride |
like I'd publish a festschrift on jransom |
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jcamins |
BrookeenTauride: hehehe. |
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BrookeenTauride |
:) |
| 03:27 |
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BrookeenTauride |
<--- taking the piss out of academic rhetoric since 1977. |
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jcamins |
eythian: it's something published in honor of a person's birthday or retirement or the like. |
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mtj |
[% IF ( singleBranchMode ) = 'foo' %] |
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mtj |
is that eval ok in T::T? |
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mtj |
anyone? |
| 04:08 |
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rangi |
thats not an eval |
| 04:09 |
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rangi |
well it is, but not the way you are probably thinking :) |
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mtj |
[% IF ( singleBranchMode ) == 'foo' %] |
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mtj |
yeah, ok :) |
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rangi |
thats more like it, prolly eq in that case too |
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mtj |
sorry, friday-brain |
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mtj |
[% IF ( singleBranchMode eq 'foo') %] |
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rangi |
yep, and the brackets arent nessecary |
| 04:11 |
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rangi |
ahh sorry it is == |
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rangi |
http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]UNLESS_ELSIF_ELSE |
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mtj |
aah, me no see the 'Directives' page |
| 04:12 |
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mtj |
thanks again :) |
| 04:12 |
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mtj |
mtj? |
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wahanui |
DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 04:12 |
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mtj |
right on! |
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magnuse |
kia ora and happy gbsd#3, #koha! |
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alex_a |
bonjour magnuse and all ! |
| 06:31 |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a - how's life in rue breteuil? |
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alex_a |
magnuse: it's hot in rue de breteuil |
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magnuse |
ah |
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alex_a |
:) |
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magnuse |
@wunder mariseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0�C (8:30 AM CEST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
oooh |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
that's not bad, actually |
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magnuse |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (6:00 PM NZST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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alex_a |
ouch |
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magnuse |
well, it's winter... |
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alex_a |
yes |
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alex_a |
each turn |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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julian_ |
hello |
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wahanui |
salut, julian_ |
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magnuse |
bonjour julian_ |
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julian_ |
hi wahanui, magnuse |
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julian_ |
how are you today? |
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magnuse |
fine - the sun is shining and it's friday and it's gbsd ;-) |
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julian_ |
:-) |
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magnuse |
and how are you julian_? |
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julian_ |
magnuse, i'm fine too, but it's too hot in Marseille... |
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magnuse |
ouch! glad the hackfest was so early in the year... |
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magnuse |
kia ora paul_p |
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paul_p |
hi magnuse & others |
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sophie_m |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour sophie_m |
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paul_p |
quitting home, going to office now. |
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sophie_m |
hello magnuse |
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paul_p |
magnuse, only a few BibLibre contributions to be expected for this GBSD: summer holiday... |
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hello koha |
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bonjour clrh |
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clrh |
bonjour magnuse |
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paul_p |
back |
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clrh |
does someone work with xmleditor for koha doc? |
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clrh |
I have an encoding problem |
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clrh |
but my editor is in utf-8 |
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kf |
hi # |
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magnuse |
kia ora kf |
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kf |
hi #koha and happy gbsd! |
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clrh |
‘ is translated into ‘ |
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magnuse |
clrh: sounds like a question for nengard... |
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clrh |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_the_Koha_Manual I read it |
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clrh |
magnuse: yep |
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magnuse |
i have only ever used a plain old text editor to make small patches for the docs |
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clrh |
thx magnuse |
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magnuse |
paul_p: seen bug 6537 and http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]pref_handling_RFC ? |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'bug', magnuse |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, P5, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer |
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magnuse |
it's similar to what you propose |
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paul_p |
magnuse, nope, I missed that ! |
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kf |
magnuse++ :) |
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paul_p |
magnuse++ |
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paul_p |
VERY GOOD idea/suggestion ! |
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paul_p |
I think i'll adopt this method & bug entry & do the job ! |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390> |
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magnuse |
...or i could have another go at finnishing what i started... ;-) |
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alex_a |
fredericd: ping |
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alex_a |
@seen fredericd |
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huginn |
alex_a: fredericd was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 56 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <fredericd> hello druthb |
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paul_p |
oups... laptop frozen... if someone wrote something to me since 10:24, i missed it |
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kf |
perhaps you need a new laptop ;) |
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kf |
gbsd++ |
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kf |
hi nengard |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5981] OPAC: Add limits to search history <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981> |
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nengard |
hiya |
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paul_p |
'morning nengard |
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nengard |
hiya |
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magnuse |
kia ora nengard |
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magnuse |
ready to squash some bugs? |
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nengard |
wasn't that yesterday? |
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magnuse |
nope, today! |
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nengard |
rangi said it was yesterday :) |
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nengard |
I was signing off on patches when I should have been sleeping :) hehe |
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nengard |
but yes, I can squash bugs |
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magnuse |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
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nengard |
:) I believe you |
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nengard |
I'm very jeet lagged so I have no clue what day or time it is |
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magnuse |
it started in kiribati while it was still yesterday for us, if you see what i mean... ;-) |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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* kf |
hands nengard coffee |
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nengard |
thanks kf, not a coffee drinker - plan on taking a nap to get back on schedule |
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nengard |
was in Seattle and took the red eye home and then this morning woke at 3am to get Bri to the airport |
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nengard |
my body is very confused |
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magnuse |
understandable! |
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kf |
nengard: was travelling too yesterday - 6 hours on trains |
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kf |
not as bad as switching timezones, but glad weekend is near |
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nengard |
:) |
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kf |
hope the nap helps :) |
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paul_p |
nengard, it's always friday. It's just that friday starts sooner for him than for you ;-) |
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paul_p |
(it's already saturday for kiwis now !) |
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kf |
lucky kiwis |
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paul_p |
kf, well, it's also winter for them now... |
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paul_p |
not so lucky ;-) |
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kf |
hm good point |
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paul_p |
ok, time for lunch for us. (and end of our half day dedicated to community. We made quite a lot of work with the few ppl not on holiday) |
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kf |
biblibre++ |
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o/ |
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BrookeenTauride |
kia ora! |
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BrookeenTauride |
@later tell sekjal we need to create bug rugby. :D |
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huginn |
BrookeenTauride: The operation succeeded. |
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druthb |
g'morning, BrookeenTauride. :) |
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BrookeenTauride |
how's it? |
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BrookeenTauride |
wahanui friday? |
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wahanui |
friday is probably It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
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druthb |
lol |
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druthb |
wahanui: druthb? |
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no idea, druthb |
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druthb |
good |
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off oh la times xword you are so punny |
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Heya druthb |
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hello #koha |
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paul_p |
hello sekjal / ian |
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paul_p |
sekjal, community day for you too it seems ;-) |
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sekjal |
paul_p: just trying to keep caught up |
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paul_p |
;-) |
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paul_p |
sekjal, will you come to KohaCon11 ? |
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sekjal |
paul_p: that's the plan; still need to get some of the paperwork (Visa, specifically) taken care of |
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paul_p |
visa ? you need one ? ... checking ... yikes ! frenchies also need a visa ! |
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paul_p |
thanks for noticing ! |
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druthb |
hi, oak! |
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Oak |
hi druthb :) |
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Oak |
hello #koha |
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paul_p |
hello Oak & druthb & all american ppl waking up |
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Oak |
bonjour paul_p :) |
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Agent_Dani |
Waking? I've been up for four hours now. |
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drojf |
i have a question regarding import of marc21 records. for koha 3.2 i would put the holdings data in 952 and import it, but i understand that in 3.4, 9xx-fields are not used anymore. where would i put the holdings data in my records to be imported in 3.4? |
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paul_p |
west coast ppl are just waking up right ? |
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paul_p |
drojf, they are not STORED INTERNALLY, but they're still here if you export/need to import |
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drojf |
ah, ok. thanks paul_p |
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bbl |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5725] Batch modifications for Biblios <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725> |
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Agent_Dani |
paul_p: Naw, a lot of east coast ones probably are, too. I'm an early riser for a few current-job-related reasons. |
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* wizzyrea |
is a CDT riser |
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paul_p |
hi wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
good morning, paul_p |
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Agent_Dani |
Mornin' wizzyrea |
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Agent_Dani |
My alarm goes off at 05:30 EDT. |
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wizzyrea |
due to an error in my alarm settings, that's about when mine went off too >.< |
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Agent_Dani |
Ouch... |
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wizzyrea |
so. GBSD |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4966] no way to finish receiving <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4966> |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: am I the only one who thinks "Google Blue Screen of Death" when I see that abbreviation? |
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predicts that Google will do that as an April 1st gag one day |
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wizzyrea |
HEE |
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wizzyrea |
you guys crack me up |
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wizzyrea |
that is a really good question... I know that statistics are kept when a patron is deleted, but what about their reading history? |
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SJeffery |
Is there any provision for detecting/preventing duplicate records by their OCLC number when importing via Z39? |
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jcamins_away |
SJeffery: it would be possible to set that up. |
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jcamins_away |
SJeffery: I don't believe the patch adding an index on 035 has been submitted to Koha yet, so it will require a server-side change. |
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SJeffery |
Heh, I am always glad to see when it is NOT some variable in the configuration that I have just been missing |
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jcamins_away |
Does anyone know of any reason *not* to upgrade from 3.05.00.004 to latest Master? |
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jcamins_away |
Wait... never mind. |
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* wizzyrea |
doesn't |
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jcamins_away |
Excellent. |
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wizzyrea |
i think we're running 008 in production |
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wizzyrea |
which is a couple behind |
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jcamins_away |
Looks like Master is 008. |
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wizzyrea |
database revisions :) |
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wizzyrea |
oh sorry, we're 006, hence "a couple behind" |
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wizzyrea |
so I was half right :P |
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wizzyrea |
GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day |
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wizzyrea |
GBSD? |
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wahanui |
i think GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day |
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Agent_Dani |
:) |
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paul_p |
006 is at least 2 days old... |
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paul_p |
you're really late ;-) |
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filling RFCs of pending features from BibLibre. believe it or no = 140 lines !!! |
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paul_p |
won't have finished today... |
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paul_p |
still 110 to do... |
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wizzyrea |
yikes! |
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paul_p |
some are tiny (add a link here), some are huge (like solr) |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea, entering them on a ggdocs for now. Do you want access to it when it's done ? |
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wizzyrea |
sure :() |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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cait |
new features? |
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* cait |
perks up ;) |
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* druthb |
perks up, seeing cait and libsysguy. |
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cait |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
and oleonard! |
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wahanui |
oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
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oleonard |
Hi |
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wizzyrea |
heya ruth :) |
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cait |
hi all |
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druthb |
hi oleonard and wizzyrea! |
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libsysguy |
HI druthb |
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jcamins_away |
Have there been any additions to the package requirements recently? |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.0�C (9:23 AM PDT on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). |
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bg |
jcamins_away: not that I've seen - I know larryb have some fail the other day |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. Thanks. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6671] Change name of variable used when renewing patron expiration <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6671> |
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oleonard |
Not sure why the changes in that bug were made, but I dutifully have pulled them out into their own patch from 5436 |
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paul_p |
time for week end for me ! |
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paul_p |
bye guys (& girls) |
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cait |
bye paul_p |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6673] Create Batch Label from Staged MARC Records fails after upgrade to 3.4.x <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6673> |
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jcamins_away |
Does anyone have a record with an 035 from OCLC I could borrow for testing? |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, here's one. Never mind. |
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oleonard |
Is the first patch on Bug 5749 obsoleted by the second? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5749 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, stephane.delaune, NEW , The display of borrower adresses composed of streetnumber, streettype and address is broken |
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cait |
hey - it's friday! |
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cait |
why are we not talking about cookies? |
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libsysguy |
TGIF |
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oleonard |
Cookies are delicious delicacies. |
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* libsysguy |
wishes i had cookies |
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rhcl_away |
libsysguy: you going to the LITA conference by any chance? http://ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/[…]um/2011/index.cfm |
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libsysguy |
that'd be awesome but the great state of texas cut all of our travel budget |
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rhcl_away |
ic |
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libsysguy |
:'( |
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libsysguy |
they never let me go anywhere...they just lock me in the server closet |
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libsysguy |
and its cold in here |
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rhcl_away |
The Mo State Lib just got permission to use some unused admin funds for grants for us to attend. |
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libsysguy |
hmmm |
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rhcl_away |
Well, you need a new working location. |
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libsysguy |
i might check into it...i think it'd be awesome to go...may i ask why you asked? |
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wizzyrea |
i suspect he wanted to know if his pals were going to be there |
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rhcl_away |
I'm being herded into going, and I didn't know if any other Koha people might be there. |
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rhcl |
There are some mildly interesting ILS-related sessions. |
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libsysguy |
hmm |
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libsysguy |
Margo said I could go if I got to do a presentation |
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libsysguy |
lol |
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rhcl |
well, work up something for next year, and we'll hope it's in some more exotic location like....Dayton...Omaha... |
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wizzyrea |
I have a question of best practice |
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libsysguy |
rhcl: lol |
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wizzyrea |
in git, what is the best way to make sure your branches are up to date |
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wizzyrea |
put another way |
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wizzyrea |
what's the best or right way to update them |
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libsysguy |
all at the same time? |
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wizzyrea |
not necessarily |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea: Your testing or in-progress branches? |
| 18:08 |
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wizzyrea |
testing |
| 18:08 |
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wizzyrea |
(in progress also, if you feel compelled to share) |
| 18:09 |
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oleonard |
Either way I fetch and then git rebase origin |
| 18:09 |
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oleonard |
And no one has yet told me that's wrong :) |
| 18:09 |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
| 18:09 |
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wizzyrea |
so you do both. |
| 18:09 |
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wizzyrea |
which seems right |
| 18:09 |
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oleonard |
both fetch and rebase? |
| 18:10 |
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wizzyrea |
I usually do git pull, but i'm not 100% certain of the reason why |
| 18:10 |
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wizzyrea |
which is why I asked |
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libsysguy |
im not sure of the difference betweel pull and fetch either |
| 18:10 |
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oleonard |
I've always been confused about what git pull does |
| 18:10 |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
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jcamins_away |
Wow, step away ten minutes, and there's too much scrollback! |
| 18:10 |
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jcamins_away |
git pull is really simple. |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins_away |
What it does is it runs git fetch, _then_ it applies all the new patches from upstream to your branch. |
| 18:11 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
| 18:11 |
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wizzyrea |
I don't think my git pull is working correctly |
| 18:11 |
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jcamins_away |
So you end up with a git log that looks like this: |
| 18:12 |
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jcamins_away |
[all the patches up until you created your branch]...[your patches]...[everything that was done upstream while you were working] |
| 18:12 |
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oleonard |
Whereas if you fetch+rebase your patches appear after .[everything that was done upstream while you were working] ? |
| 18:12 |
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jcamins_away |
git pull is perfect for if you're maintaining a separate branch longterm. |
| 18:12 |
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jcamins_away |
Exactly. |
| 18:13 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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sekjal |
wizzyrea: git pull = git fetch + git merge |
| 18:13 |
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wizzyrea |
oho |
| 18:13 |
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wizzyrea |
thoughts on which strategy is better? |
| 18:13 |
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sekjal |
there is an option to have it do rebase, instead |
| 18:14 |
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oleonard |
So is there an advantage either way for getting a dev branch up to date? |
| 18:14 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ and that |
| 18:14 |
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sekjal |
avoid rebasing a public repo; it'll screw up anyone who's pulled from you |
| 18:14 |
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sekjal |
but, for private repos, rebase is nice because it puts your changes at the top of the git log |
| 18:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Grr. |
| 18:15 |
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libsysguy |
hey rhcl today is the last day for proposals |
| 18:15 |
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libsysguy |
there is hope if i type fast |
| 18:16 |
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libsysguy |
is anybody else going? |
| 18:16 |
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wizzyrea |
i'm not |
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jcamins_away |
The reason I couldn't find this record is that I hadn't imported it. |
| 18:16 |
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wizzyrea |
oops. |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
so i think i'm hearing that fetch, rebase is the way to go for a non-public repo |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins_away |
That's my recommendation. |
| 18:17 |
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jcamins_away |
I'll give you a concrete example of how I use the two options. |
| 18:17 |
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wizzyrea |
<3 thanks |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins_away |
In fact, I'll give you a concrete example of what I'm doing _right now_. |
| 18:18 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 18:18 |
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jcamins_away |
I am currently working on fixing a bug. |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins_away |
I have a branch for the bug which I created several weeks ago (3.05.000.004). |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins_away |
I rebased my changes onto latest Master with git fetch && git rebase kc/master |
| 18:19 |
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jcamins_away |
(I did that last bit today) |
| 18:20 |
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cait |
yay :) |
| 18:20 |
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jcamins_away |
I am also building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason). |
| 18:20 |
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wahanui |
okay, jcamins_away. |
| 18:20 |
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jcamins_away |
jcamins? |
| 18:20 |
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wahanui |
jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications |
| 18:20 |
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jcamins_away |
I? |
| 18:20 |
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wahanui |
i think jcamins_away is currently working on fixing a bug. or building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason). |
| 18:21 |
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jcamins_away |
Hehe. |
| 18:21 |
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jcamins_away |
Anyway, so I have my own branch for building packages from. |
| 18:21 |
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wizzyrea |
forget I |
| 18:21 |
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wahanui |
wizzyrea: I forgot i |
| 18:21 |
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wizzyrea |
I is <reply> |
| 18:21 |
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wizzyrea |
i? |
| 18:21 |
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jcamins_away |
Every time I build a package, I modify the change log. |
| 18:22 |
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jcamins_away |
I commit those changes and add a tag so that I know where I was when I built a package. |
| 18:23 |
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jcamins_away |
Every time I want to build a package, I do a git pull, so that I don't lose my place, and I can also get my branch as close as possible to current Master. |
| 18:23 |
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jcamins_away |
Does that clarify things at all? |
| 18:23 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, I think so |
| 18:23 |
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jcamins_away |
Yay! |
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| 18:29 |
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wizzyrea |
nengard, about? |
| 18:29 |
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nengard |
physically |
| 18:29 |
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nengard |
mentally i make no promises |
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wizzyrea |
ohsnap |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 18:32 |
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jcamins_away |
Apparently the documentation for making packages is no longer accurate. |
| 18:33 |
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* jcamins_away |
crosses "try out lastest Master" off his to-do list. |
| 18:38 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, never mind. Got it. |
| 18:39 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, I have a meeting in 50 minutes. |
| 18:57 |
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wizzyrea |
hey speaking of bug squashing |
| 18:58 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 6488 |
| 18:58 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6488 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , opachiddenitems not working in master |
| 18:59 |
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oleonard |
You're wrong wizzyrea, no one is speaking of bug squashing |
| 18:59 |
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wizzyrea |
pf, it's implied as today is bug squashing day |
| 18:59 |
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oleonard |
:) |
| 18:59 |
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wizzyrea |
neener |
| 19:00 |
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wizzyrea |
i honestly hope that the next time rangi runs stats |
| 19:00 |
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wizzyrea |
that "neener" is my quote. |
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cait |
? |
| 19:05 |
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wizzyrea |
so 6488 |
| 19:06 |
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wizzyrea |
am I to understand that the items are not hidden now/ |
| 19:07 |
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cait |
Rain! |
| 19:19 |
|
* oleonard |
almost got Bug 6674 squashed, the last remnant of Bug 5436 to be split out. |
| 19:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6674 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Collapse display of patron address by default |
| 19:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements |
| 19:24 |
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nengard |
hello all, i need me some reports help. this report is one of the first i wrote - and it's wrong :) http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines |
| 19:25 |
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nengard |
it's wrong because there are negative in the amountoutstanding column |
| 19:25 |
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nengard |
anyone have an idea on how i can do it so that it's right? |
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| 19:27 |
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cait |
you want a report that lists all patrons with fines? |
| 19:27 |
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cait |
I think I have one for that |
| 19:28 |
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nengard |
yes please |
| 19:29 |
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nengard |
outstanding fines |
| 19:29 |
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pastebot |
Someone at 78.51.74.52 pasted "borrowers with fines" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 |
| 19:29 |
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cait |
some of my libraries are using it |
| 19:31 |
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nengard |
cait thank you!! |
| 19:31 |
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nengard |
testing now |
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cait |
cool, let me know if it works :) |
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nengard |
cait |
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nengard |
ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'SELECT (SELECT CONCAT('<a href=\"/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumbe' at line 4 |
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cait |
I am checking it |
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cait |
probably a bad paste from the iwki |
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cait |
wiki |
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cait |
give me a min |
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nengard |
no prob |
| 19:36 |
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cait |
yes, there is a mistake in our internal wiki - trying to fix |
| 19:39 |
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pastebot |
"cait" at 78.51.74.52 pasted "SELECT (SELECT CONCAT('<a href" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2 |
| 19:39 |
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cait |
this should work |
| 19:40 |
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cait |
ah, small thing you might want to fix, both the name and the fine link to the fines page in the borrower account, the first should link to the details page |
| 19:41 |
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nengard |
cait that works!! |
| 19:41 |
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nengard |
thank you |
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nengard |
I'll update the links and the language :) |
| 19:41 |
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cait |
no problem :) |
| 19:41 |
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nengard |
what is Ausleihen |
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cait |
checkout |
| 19:43 |
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cait |
s |
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nengard |
thansnk |
| 19:44 |
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nengard |
thanks |
| 19:44 |
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cait |
the number of current checkouts |
| 19:46 |
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nengard |
i have erased my report and put yours in there (with a few edits by me) |
| 19:46 |
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nengard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
cool :) |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
my first report in the sql library! |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
thx nengard |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
nengard++ |
| 19:48 |
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nengard |
cait you had another in there actually |
| 19:48 |
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cait |
I did? |
| 19:48 |
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magnuse |
i thought there was a test to find sysprefs missing from sql files, but i can't find it... does that ring any bells for anyone? |
| 19:48 |
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nengard |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rts_Library#Title.2FSubtitle_List |
| 19:48 |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
it's in xt I think |
| 19:49 |
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magnuse |
ah, that looks promising cait - i was only looking in t/ |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
more xp for me -muhar |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
hehe |
| 19:50 |
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nengard |
i don't like the interface in that game |
| 19:50 |
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nengard |
too hard to enter in everything i'm doing |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
hm? |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
to many clicks? |
| 19:50 |
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cait |
to = too |
| 19:53 |
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cait |
magnuse: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]11-08-04#i_729059 |
| 19:54 |
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nengard |
yes cait |
| 19:54 |
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cait |
I like the pictures |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
the picture on the front page is great |
| 19:55 |
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nengard |
:) |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
and I still want to gain a chocolate fish |
| 19:55 |
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cait |
but have to write patches for that |
| 19:55 |
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nengard |
heh |
| 19:56 |
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libsysguy |
w00t i got our urls working |
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libsysguy |
catalog.uttyler.edu |
| 19:56 |
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libsysguy |
staff.catalog.uttyler.edu |
| 19:57 |
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magnuse |
woohoo |
| 19:57 |
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magnuse |
libsysguy++ |
| 19:57 |
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magnuse |
n00b question: what's the difference between t/ and xt/ for test? |
| 19:58 |
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nengard |
congrats libsysguy |
| 19:58 |
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libsysguy |
:D thanks guys |
| 19:58 |
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cait |
hm |
| 19:58 |
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cait |
magnuse: hm, not sure |
| 19:59 |
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magnuse |
extra tests? nah... |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
extensible tests? |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
hm we already have database dependent tests |
| 19:59 |
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cait |
so this could probably not be it |
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magnuse |
not so n00b after all then, perhaps... ;-) |
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jcamins_away |
Hi guys, didja miss me? |
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druthb |
always, jcamins_away! |
| 20:43 |
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jcamins_away |
I missed you, too. :) |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
have you brought cookies? |
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jcamins_away |
Alas, no. |
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* jcamins_away |
is very, very proud of himself- he has been an exemplary husband, making sure everything high-calorie in the house is healthy. |
| 20:46 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 20:46 |
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wizzyrea |
exemplary_husbands++ |
| 20:46 |
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wizzyrea |
you have avocados then? |
| 20:46 |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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jcamins_away |
Not at the moment. |
| 20:47 |
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jcamins_away |
We're out. |
| 20:47 |
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jcamins_away |
However, I've been thinking about buying some this evening. |
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rangi |
still wanna know the diff between xt and t ? |
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rangi |
xt are tests to be run when packaging/building releases etc |
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rangi |
t run then as well, but also when installing |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:51 |
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cait |
rangi++ |
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cait |
will tell magnuse later :P |
| 20:51 |
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cait |
it's weekend! |
| 20:55 |
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cait |
jcamins_away: what is the healthy substitute for cookies? |
| 20:55 |
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wizzyrea |
oatmeal cookies with fruit :P |
| 20:55 |
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rangi |
healthy smealthy |
| 20:55 |
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jcamins_away |
cait: frozen yogurt. |
| 20:56 |
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cait |
ok, I will take that then ;) |
| 20:56 |
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jcamins_away |
With alcohol! |
| 20:56 |
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jcamins_away |
Actually, the alcohol helps the consistency quite a lot. |
| 20:56 |
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jcamins_away |
:) |
| 20:56 |
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wizzyrea |
booze helps most things. |
| 20:57 |
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jcamins_away |
Also chocolate. |
| 20:57 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, dark chocolate is actually quite good for you |
| 20:58 |
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wizzyrea |
especially if it's not too sweet |
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jcamins_away |
(dark chocolate is _very_ healthy, thank you very much) |
| 20:59 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, no worries about it being too sweet. |
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cait |
ok |
| 21:00 |
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jcamins_away |
70% dark chocolate, yogurt, Bailey's Irish Cream, and a small amount of agave syrup (the natural alternative to splenda;). |
| 21:00 |
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cait |
yum |
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cait |
can I have some frozen joghurt please? |
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* jcamins_away |
hands out yogurt ice pops. |
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wizzyrea |
you can make tequila out of agave syrup ;) |
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druthb |
mmmm |
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* druthb |
takes a yogurt pop. |
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jcamins_away |
wizzyrea: I think I'm allergic to tequila. |
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wizzyrea |
but not agave syrup? |
| 21:02 |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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cait |
thx jcamins :) |
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wizzyrea |
or you're allergic in the way that drinking tequila makes you hang on to the floor for fear of falling off the world |
| 21:02 |
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wizzyrea |
because I'm allergic in that way. |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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jcamins |
No, allergic in the sense of "even a small taste of something with tequila makes me really sick." |
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* druthb |
has the same allergy as wizzy |
| 21:03 |
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wizzyrea |
but I still like it :) |
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cait |
I am allergic to coffeine and alcohol in that way |
| 21:03 |
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wizzyrea |
oo, that's bad. |
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* druthb |
is laughing so hard it hurts a lil |
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cait |
hm. actually it's more that my company and friends are allergic to me consuming coffeine or alcohol |
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jcamins |
cait: better avoid kahlua, then. :P |
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cait |
I still get teased for the last time I had coffee at a role playing convention years ago :) |
| 21:06 |
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wizzyrea |
what I appreciate most about you people, is that every single day you make me laugh. |
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rangi |
cait: is that when you threw a d20 at people and danced on tables? |
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jcamins |
Someone small and fuzzy is nibbling my fingers affectionately. |
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bg |
rangi? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
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jcamins |
It makes typing really difficult. |
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druthb |
bg? |
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wahanui |
I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
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cait |
rangi: not quite |
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cait |
druthb? |
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wahanui |
druthb is probably currently convincing the amish that they need to web 2.0 |
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cait |
i was either asleep or talking - and that changed every few seconds |
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rangi |
lol |
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* rangi |
goes to search youtube for that |
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druthb |
! |
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cait |
that was before youtube :P |
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cait |
druthb: do they have alibrary? |
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wizzyrea |
i read that up there as "someone small and fuzzy is nibbling my fingers" and it looks like bg suggested that it might be rangi. This makes me laugh. |
| 21:12 |
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cait |
me too |
| 21:13 |
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cait |
now it's finally a real friday :) |
| 21:13 |
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jcamins |
Heh. Someone small and fuzzy has stopped nibbling my fingers. He's now considering whether he's a match for the Hungarian cow that was made into my shoes. |
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rangi |
hey, i only nibbled his fingers once! |
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jcamins |
I'm getting the sense he feels neglected. |
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wizzyrea |
rangi? or small and fuzzy? |
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* wizzyrea |
is getting confused. |
| 21:15 |
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jcamins |
Small and fuzzy. |
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jcamins |
rangi: are you feeling neglected too? |
| 21:17 |
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cait |
lol |
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libsysguy |
has anybody used the setDelimiter method in Text::CSV |
| 21:17 |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
a serious question from libsysguy |
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libsysguy |
sorry to butt in... |
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cait |
jcamins: you should give him a pop |
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* jcamins |
gives libsysguy a yogurt ice pop. |
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rangi |
i havent libsysguy |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I did at some point, I think. Don't remember anything about it, though. |
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libsysguy |
hmm...i get an error of can't locate metod setDelimiter |
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* rangi |
consults cpan |
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libsysguy |
rangi...that is where i found the method :'( |
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rangi |
you have 05 eh? |
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libsysguy |
v5.10.1 |
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rangi |
ump |
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rangi |
from cpan? |
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cait |
this smiley looks so tired |
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cait |
ah, sad not tired |
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libsysguy |
hmm maybe I should try updating from cpan |
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* cait |
wonders how a tired smiley looks like |
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rangi |
http://search.cpan.org/~makama[…]1/lib/Text/CSV.pm |
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rangi |
there are a few Text::CSV |
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rangi |
trying to figure out what one you have :) |
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rangi |
thats the one i have installed 1.21 |
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rangi |
./koha_perl_deps.pl -i will tell ya |
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rangi |
and that module has no setdelimiter |
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libsysguy |
grr yes ies 1.21 |
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rangi |
there ya go :) |
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rangi |
looking at the wrong man page :) |
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libsysguy |
so im confused |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: ask druthb which module sheuses. |
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jcamins |
s/sheuses/she uses/ |
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libsysguy |
i think druthb is afk |
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rangi |
was it this one ? |
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druthb |
no, she's not. |
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libsysguy |
eeek druthb |
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rangi |
http://search.cpan.org/~erangel/Text-CSV/ |
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libsysguy |
your back |
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rangi |
your face |
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druthb |
I use Text::CSV_XS, mostly] |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: I've been working on the wrapup for bug 5079 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs |
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libsysguy |
sweet...anything you need from me? |
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sekjal |
not at this time |
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sekjal |
going to add two more |
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libsysguy |
two more patches? |
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sekjal |
the one I described before (about not showing location if there are no items) |
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libsysguy |
oh right |
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libsysguy |
sorry to cause some kind of stirr with that patch |
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sekjal |
and one that will give distinct all the distinct combos of location/callnumber in the same line, separated by commas, independent of status |
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sekjal |
libsysguy: don't worry about it, you're just fine. it's good work |
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sekjal |
bug 4032 is completely independent |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo |
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libsysguy |
that is what I was kind of thinking...im glad you guys are really strict on scope creep |
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wizzyrea |
wait wait |
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wizzyrea |
did someone just say they were GLAD |
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wizzyrea |
that we were STRICT |
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wizzyrea |
someone quote him quick |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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libsysguy |
hehe |
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libsysguy |
wayy better than the last place i worked...it was constant creep |
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sekjal |
I'm all for using Bugzilla's "blocks" and "depends on" feature to link many, narrowly-focused bug reports together |
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sekjal |
small patches are easy to test |
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rangi |
sekjal++ |
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cait |
sekjal++ :) |
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libsysguy |
druthb how do you set a delimiter in CSV_XS...i don't see it in the man page...it just says you can |
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libsysguy |
sekjal++ |
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libsysguy |
oh wait |
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libsysguy |
i just missed it druthb |
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druthb |
libsysguy: my $csv=Text::CSV->new({sep_char=>'|'}); |
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* sekjal |
holds his tongue about how small patches are easy to test, and he likes that because he's lazy |
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rangi |
lazy is good |
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rangi |
its the learning that doing stuff upfront to get set up, means you can do lots less later thats the good lazy |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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rangi |
im too lazy to go round having to pull commits out of mater |
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rangi |
master |
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rangi |
id rather we are sure about them before we put them in :) |
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sekjal |
agreed |
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sekjal |
and with that, I've got to dash |
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rangi |
another question from disney |
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sekjal |
there are hungry cats somewhere in Northampton |
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sekjal |
goodnight, all! |
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wizzyrea |
oh, my question from earlier |
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wizzyrea |
maybe someone knows |
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wizzyrea |
does deleting a patron delete their reading history? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
it should not I think |
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cait |
but never looked into it |
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wizzyrea |
keeps their borrowernumber? |
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wizzyrea |
their usage stats are kept I'm sure |
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cait |
I am not entirely sure - but you keep the patron too |
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cait |
in deletedborrowers |
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wizzyrea |
oo |
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wizzyrea |
yea |
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wizzyrea |
true |
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rangi |
the stats table exists |
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cait |
so why should it delete the oldissues |
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rangi |
that wont get delete |
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rangi |
d |
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rangi |
but check the foreign key constraints |
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rangi |
it might be set to cascade deletes for old_issues |
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wizzyrea |
I personally think it'd be a good thing |
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rangi |
so the db might delete that row |
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wizzyrea |
to delete the oldissues when a patron is deleted |
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wizzyrea |
but not the stats |
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rangi |
but the stats are still in statistics |
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wizzyrea |
I was thinking about the question from ms. peel |
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cait |
hm |
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rangi |
and like cait said borrowers in deletedborrowers (assuming you use the interface to delete them, not in the db that is) |
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wizzyrea |
right right |
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rangi |
either way, yeah the statistics are still there |
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rangi |
is the short answer to her |
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rangi |
you can get the xp for that:) |
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cait |
people use issues tabe a lot for statistics too... and if the deletedborrower borrower is deleted, you couldn't reconstruct the person from the borrowernumber, right? |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
this game is evil |
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rangi |
no |
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rangi |
yeah, ppl should use the stats table :) |
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rangi |
its what its for |
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wizzyrea |
ah, that has been bugging me all day. |
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cait |
131 gold pieces - I am rich, but still no chocolate fish |
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rangi |
? |
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wizzyrea |
her question |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
I didn't have the opportunity to dig up the answer myself |
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rangi |
so |
| 21:52 |
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rangi |
if the next ALA is at anaheim |
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jcamins |
Ooh, I helped people on IRC yesterday and today. :) |
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rangi |
and disney use Koha |
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bg |
rangi football today? |
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rangi |
that oughta work |
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cait |
and you fed us joghurt pops |
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cait |
:) |
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rangi |
bg: he didnt want to play |
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wizzyrea |
aww |
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rangi |
we'll try again next week |
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bg |
yeah awww |
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cait |
aww |
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wizzyrea |
that means we should have kohacon at disney world |
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jcamins |
Who did I help yesterday? |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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wizzyrea |
probably everybody jcamins |
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wizzyrea |
because you're helpful like that |
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rangi |
nz vs australia in rugby tonight tho |
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wizzyrea |
woot woot |
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jcamins |
:) |
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bg |
jcamins you helped rangi with weighted fields |
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rangi |
yep |
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jcamins |
Right! Thank you. |
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rangi |
who knows about marcedit? |
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wizzyrea |
you helped me with git today |
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rangi |
and can help the disney dude |
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bg |
terry reese |
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rangi |
wish he would just release it with a floss license |
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jcamins |
Disney? Huh? |
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wizzyrea |
no lie |
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bg |
yeah you ever ask him that? |
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rangi |
lots of people have |
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wizzyrea |
wasn't he concerned about it not being perfect? |
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bg |
I asked him once and got the answer - it's his employers decision or something like that |
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rangi |
david hartman, on the devel list |
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bg |
gotta run |
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wizzyrea |
we should approach his employer :P |
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rangi |
ive heard both of those |
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rangi |
but it is copyright him istn it? |
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wizzyrea |
yea, but if it's a cop out |
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wizzyrea |
maybe his boss could compel him. |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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* wizzyrea |
is evil. |
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wizzyrea |
so what if it's got a horrid wrong hack in it? |
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wizzyrea |
let someone else fix it :P |
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jcamins |
rangi: to be fair, employment law in the US is pretty screwed up, so it could be that it actually is his employer's decision. |
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rangi |
yeah thats true |
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rangi |
oregon state |
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wizzyrea |
oo |
| 21:56 |
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wizzyrea |
and universities are weird about that stuf |
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rangi |
http://osuosl.org/ |
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rangi |
doesnt seem like it would be a hard sell |
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wizzyrea |
bug uni tho |
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wizzyrea |
the values may not carry over :/ |
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rangi |
true |
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wizzyrea |
aight, see u peeps later |
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rangi |
cya later |
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is off too |
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Topic for #koha is now Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. |
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rhcl |
ooohhh netsplit |
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bg |
hiya rhcl |
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rhcl |
hey, whats up? |
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rhcl |
6:00pm, we're closing -- I'm out! |
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