Time Nick Message 22:57 rhcl 6:00pm, we're closing -- I'm out! 22:55 rhcl hey, whats up? 22:52 bg hiya rhcl 22:41 rhcl ooohhh netsplit 22:03 * rangi is off too 21:58 rangi cya later 21:58 wizzyrea aight, see u peeps later 21:57 rangi true 21:57 wizzyrea the values may not carry over :/ 21:57 wizzyrea bug uni tho 21:57 rangi doesnt seem like it would be a hard sell 21:57 jcamins [off] I don't think that's the case, but goodness knows I had to go through all sorts of contortions last year because of weird laws. 21:57 rangi http://osuosl.org/ 21:56 wizzyrea and universities are weird about that stuf 21:56 wizzyrea oo 21:56 rangi oregon state 21:56 rangi yeah thats true 21:56 jcamins rangi: to be fair, employment law in the US is pretty screwed up, so it could be that it actually is his employer's decision. 21:56 wizzyrea let someone else fix it :P 21:56 wizzyrea so what if it's got a horrid wrong hack in it? 21:55 * wizzyrea is evil. 21:55 wizzyrea :P 21:55 wizzyrea maybe his boss could compel him. 21:55 wizzyrea yea, but if it's a cop out 21:55 rangi but it is copyright him istn it? 21:55 rangi ive heard both of those 21:55 wizzyrea we should approach his employer :P 21:55 bg gotta run 21:55 rangi david hartman, on the devel list 21:54 bg I asked him once and got the answer - it's his employers decision or something like that 21:54 wizzyrea wasn't he concerned about it not being perfect? 21:54 rangi lots of people have 21:54 bg yeah you ever ask him that? 21:54 wizzyrea no lie 21:54 jcamins Disney? Huh? 21:54 rangi wish he would just release it with a floss license 21:54 bg terry reese 21:54 rangi and can help the disney dude 21:54 wizzyrea you helped me with git today 21:54 rangi who knows about marcedit? 21:53 jcamins Right! Thank you. 21:53 rangi yep 21:53 bg jcamins you helped rangi with weighted fields 21:53 jcamins :) 21:53 wizzyrea woot woot 21:53 rangi nz vs australia in rugby tonight tho 21:53 wizzyrea because you're helpful like that 21:53 wizzyrea probably everybody jcamins 21:53 wizzyrea :P 21:53 jcamins Who did I help yesterday? 21:53 wizzyrea that means we should have kohacon at disney world 21:53 cait aww 21:53 bg yeah awww 21:53 rangi we'll try again next week 21:53 wizzyrea aww 21:53 rangi bg: he didnt want to play 21:53 cait :) 21:52 cait and you fed us joghurt pops 21:52 rangi that oughta work 21:52 bg rangi football today? 21:52 rangi and disney use Koha 21:52 jcamins Ooh, I helped people on IRC yesterday and today. :) 21:52 rangi if the next ALA is at anaheim 21:52 rangi so 21:52 wizzyrea I didn't have the opportunity to dig up the answer myself 21:52 wizzyrea :) 21:52 wizzyrea her question 21:52 rangi ? 21:52 cait 131 gold pieces - I am rich, but still no chocolate fish 21:50 wizzyrea ah, that has been bugging me all day. 21:49 rangi its what its for 21:49 rangi yeah, ppl should use the stats table :) 21:48 rangi no 21:47 cait this game is evil 21:47 cait lol 21:47 cait people use issues tabe a lot for statistics too... and if the deletedborrower borrower is deleted, you couldn't reconstruct the person from the borrowernumber, right? 21:47 rangi you can get the xp for that:) 21:47 rangi is the short answer to her 21:47 rangi either way, yeah the statistics are still there 21:47 wizzyrea right right 21:46 rangi and like cait said borrowers in deletedborrowers (assuming you use the interface to delete them, not in the db that is) 21:46 cait hm 21:46 wizzyrea I was thinking about the question from ms. peel 21:46 rangi but the stats are still in statistics 21:46 wizzyrea but not the stats 21:46 wizzyrea to delete the oldissues when a patron is deleted 21:46 rangi so the db might delete that row 21:46 wizzyrea I personally think it'd be a good thing 21:45 rangi it might be set to cascade deletes for old_issues 21:45 rangi but check the foreign key constraints 21:45 rangi d 21:45 rangi that wont get delete 21:45 cait so why should it delete the oldissues 21:45 rangi the stats table exists 21:45 wizzyrea true 21:45 wizzyrea yea 21:45 wizzyrea oo 21:45 cait in deletedborrowers 21:44 cait I am not entirely sure - but you keep the patron too 21:44 wizzyrea their usage stats are kept I'm sure 21:44 wizzyrea keeps their borrowernumber? 21:44 cait but never looked into it 21:44 cait it should not I think 21:44 cait hm 21:44 wizzyrea does deleting a patron delete their reading history? 21:44 wizzyrea maybe someone knows 21:44 wizzyrea oh, my question from earlier 21:42 sekjal goodnight, all! 21:41 sekjal there are hungry cats somewhere in Northampton 21:41 rangi another question from disney 21:41 sekjal and with that, I've got to dash 21:41 sekjal agreed 21:40 rangi id rather we are sure about them before we put them in :) 21:40 rangi master 21:40 rangi im too lazy to go round having to pull commits out of mater 21:40 wizzyrea ^^ 21:39 rangi its the learning that doing stuff upfront to get set up, means you can do lots less later thats the good lazy 21:38 rangi lazy is good 21:37 * sekjal holds his tongue about how small patches are easy to test, and he likes that because he's lazy 21:37 druthb libsysguy: my $csv=Text::CSV->new({sep_char=>'|'}); 21:37 libsysguy i just missed it druthb 21:37 libsysguy oh wait 21:36 libsysguy sekjal++ 21:36 libsysguy druthb how do you set a delimiter in CSV_XS...i don't see it in the man page...it just says you can 21:36 cait sekjal++ :) 21:35 rangi sekjal++ 21:35 sekjal small patches are easy to test 21:35 sekjal I'm all for using Bugzilla's "blocks" and "depends on" feature to link many, narrowly-focused bug reports together 21:34 libsysguy wayy better than the last place i worked...it was constant creep 21:34 libsysguy hehe 21:34 wizzyrea :) 21:34 wizzyrea someone quote him quick 21:34 wizzyrea that we were STRICT 21:33 wizzyrea did someone just say they were GLAD 21:33 wizzyrea wait wait 21:33 libsysguy that is what I was kind of thinking...im glad you guys are really strict on scope creep 21:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo 21:33 sekjal bug 4032 is completely independent 21:32 sekjal libsysguy: don't worry about it, you're just fine. it's good work 21:32 sekjal and one that will give distinct all the distinct combos of location/callnumber in the same line, separated by commas, independent of status 21:32 libsysguy sorry to cause some kind of stirr with that patch 21:31 libsysguy oh right 21:31 sekjal the one I described before (about not showing location if there are no items) 21:31 libsysguy two more patches? 21:31 sekjal going to add two more 21:31 sekjal not at this time 21:31 libsysguy sweet...anything you need from me? 21:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs 21:30 sekjal libsysguy: I've been working on the wrapup for bug 5079 21:30 druthb I use Text::CSV_XS, mostly] 21:30 rangi your face 21:30 libsysguy your back 21:30 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~erangel/Text-CSV/ 21:30 libsysguy eeek druthb 21:30 druthb no, she's not. 21:30 rangi was it this one ? 21:30 libsysguy i think druthb is afk 21:30 jcamins s/sheuses/she uses/ 21:29 jcamins libsysguy: ask druthb which module sheuses. 21:29 libsysguy so im confused 21:29 rangi looking at the wrong man page :) 21:29 rangi there ya go :) 21:28 libsysguy grr yes ies 1.21 21:27 rangi and that module has no setdelimiter 21:27 rangi ./koha_perl_deps.pl -i will tell ya 21:26 rangi thats the one i have installed 1.21 21:25 rangi trying to figure out what one you have :) 21:25 rangi there are a few Text::CSV 21:25 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~makamaka/Text-CSV-1.21/lib/Text/CSV.pm 21:25 * cait wonders how a tired smiley looks like 21:25 libsysguy hmm maybe I should try updating from cpan 21:25 cait ah, sad not tired 21:25 cait this smiley looks so tired 21:25 rangi from cpan? 21:24 rangi ump 21:23 libsysguy v5.10.1 21:22 rangi you have 05 eh? 21:22 libsysguy rangi...that is where i found the method :'( 21:21 * rangi consults cpan 21:19 libsysguy hmm...i get an error of can't locate metod setDelimiter 21:19 jcamins libsysguy: I did at some point, I think. Don't remember anything about it, though. 21:18 rangi i havent libsysguy 21:18 * jcamins gives libsysguy a yogurt ice pop. 21:18 cait jcamins: you should give him a pop 21:18 libsysguy sorry to butt in... 21:17 cait a serious question from libsysguy 21:17 cait oh 21:17 libsysguy has anybody used the setDelimiter method in Text::CSV 21:17 cait lol 21:15 jcamins rangi: are you feeling neglected too? 21:15 jcamins Small and fuzzy. 21:15 * wizzyrea is getting confused. 21:15 wizzyrea rangi? or small and fuzzy? 21:14 jcamins I'm getting the sense he feels neglected. 21:14 rangi hey, i only nibbled his fingers once! 21:13 jcamins Heh. Someone small and fuzzy has stopped nibbling my fingers. He's now considering whether he's a match for the Hungarian cow that was made into my shoes. 21:13 cait now it's finally a real friday :) 21:12 cait me too 21:12 wizzyrea i read that up there as "someone small and fuzzy is nibbling my fingers" and it looks like bg suggested that it might be rangi. This makes me laugh. 21:10 cait druthb: do they have alibrary? 21:09 cait that was before youtube :P 21:09 druthb ! 21:09 * rangi goes to search youtube for that 21:09 rangi lol 21:08 cait i was either asleep or talking - and that changed every few seconds 21:08 wahanui druthb is probably currently convincing the amish that they need to web 2.0 21:08 cait druthb? 21:08 cait rangi: not quite 21:07 wahanui I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL 21:07 druthb bg? 21:07 jcamins It makes typing really difficult. 21:07 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 21:07 bg rangi? 21:07 jcamins Someone small and fuzzy is nibbling my fingers affectionately. 21:07 rangi cait: is that when you threw a d20 at people and danced on tables? 21:06 wizzyrea what I appreciate most about you people, is that every single day you make me laugh. 21:05 cait I still get teased for the last time I had coffee at a role playing convention years ago :) 21:04 jcamins cait: better avoid kahlua, then. :P 21:04 cait hm. actually it's more that my company and friends are allergic to me consuming coffeine or alcohol 21:03 * druthb is laughing so hard it hurts a lil 21:03 wizzyrea oo, that's bad. 21:03 cait I am allergic to coffeine and alcohol in that way 21:03 wizzyrea but I still like it :) 21:03 * druthb has the same allergy as wizzy 21:03 jcamins No, allergic in the sense of "even a small taste of something with tequila makes me really sick." 21:02 wizzyrea :P 21:02 wizzyrea because I'm allergic in that way. 21:02 wizzyrea or you're allergic in the way that drinking tequila makes you hang on to the floor for fear of falling off the world 21:02 cait thx jcamins :) 21:02 jcamins Nope. 21:02 wizzyrea but not agave syrup? 21:02 jcamins_away wizzyrea: I think I'm allergic to tequila. 21:01 * druthb takes a yogurt pop. 21:01 druthb mmmm 21:01 wizzyrea you can make tequila out of agave syrup ;) 21:00 * jcamins_away hands out yogurt ice pops. 21:00 cait can I have some frozen joghurt please? 21:00 cait yum 21:00 jcamins_away 70% dark chocolate, yogurt, Bailey's Irish Cream, and a small amount of agave syrup (the natural alternative to splenda;). 21:00 cait ok 20:59 jcamins_away Yeah, no worries about it being too sweet. 20:58 jcamins_away (dark chocolate is _very_ healthy, thank you very much) 20:58 wizzyrea especially if it's not too sweet 20:57 wizzyrea yea, dark chocolate is actually quite good for you 20:57 jcamins_away Also chocolate. 20:56 wizzyrea booze helps most things. 20:56 jcamins_away :) 20:56 jcamins_away Actually, the alcohol helps the consistency quite a lot. 20:56 jcamins_away With alcohol! 20:56 cait ok, I will take that then ;) 20:55 jcamins_away cait: frozen yogurt. 20:55 rangi healthy smealthy 20:55 wizzyrea oatmeal cookies with fruit :P 20:55 cait jcamins_away: what is the healthy substitute for cookies? 20:51 cait it's weekend! 20:51 cait will tell magnuse later :P 20:51 cait rangi++ 20:51 cait :) 20:48 rangi t run then as well, but also when installing 20:48 rangi xt are tests to be run when packaging/building releases etc 20:47 rangi still wanna know the diff between xt and t ? 20:47 jcamins_away However, I've been thinking about buying some this evening. 20:47 jcamins_away We're out. 20:47 jcamins_away Not at the moment. 20:46 wizzyrea ^.^ 20:46 wizzyrea you have avocados then? 20:46 wizzyrea exemplary_husbands++ 20:46 wizzyrea hehe 20:46 * jcamins_away is very, very proud of himself- he has been an exemplary husband, making sure everything high-calorie in the house is healthy. 20:45 jcamins_away Alas, no. 20:44 cait have you brought cookies? 20:44 cait :) 20:43 jcamins_away I missed you, too. :) 20:43 druthb always, jcamins_away! 20:39 jcamins_away Hi guys, didja miss me? 20:02 magnuse not so n00b after all then, perhaps... ;-) 19:59 cait so this could probably not be it 19:59 cait hm we already have database dependent tests 19:59 cait extensible tests? 19:59 magnuse extra tests? nah... 19:58 cait magnuse: hm, not sure 19:58 cait hm 19:58 libsysguy :D thanks guys 19:58 nengard congrats libsysguy 19:57 magnuse n00b question: what's the difference between t/ and xt/ for test? 19:57 magnuse libsysguy++ 19:57 magnuse woohoo 19:56 libsysguy staff.catalog.uttyler.edu 19:56 libsysguy catalog.uttyler.edu 19:56 libsysguy w00t i got our urls working 19:55 nengard heh 19:55 cait but have to write patches for that 19:55 cait and I still want to gain a chocolate fish 19:55 nengard :) 19:55 cait the picture on the front page is great 19:54 cait I like the pictures 19:54 nengard yes cait 19:53 cait magnuse: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-08-04#i_729059 19:50 cait to = too 19:50 cait to many clicks? 19:50 cait hm? 19:50 nengard too hard to enter in everything i'm doing 19:50 nengard i don't like the interface in that game 19:50 cait hehe 19:50 cait more xp for me -muhar 19:49 magnuse ah, that looks promising cait - i was only looking in t/ 19:48 cait it's in xt I think 19:48 cait yep 19:48 nengard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Title.2FSubtitle_List 19:48 magnuse i thought there was a test to find sysprefs missing from sql files, but i can't find it... does that ring any bells for anyone? 19:48 cait I did? 19:48 nengard cait you had another in there actually 19:47 cait nengard++ 19:47 cait thx nengard 19:47 cait my first report in the sql library! 19:47 cait cool :) 19:46 nengard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines 19:46 nengard i have erased my report and put yours in there (with a few edits by me) 19:44 cait the number of current checkouts 19:44 nengard thanks 19:44 nengard thansnk 19:43 cait s 19:43 cait checkout 19:41 nengard what is Ausleihen 19:41 cait no problem :) 19:41 nengard I'll update the links and the language :) 19:41 nengard thank you 19:41 nengard cait that works!! 19:40 cait ah, small thing you might want to fix, both the name and the fine link to the fines page in the borrower account, the first should link to the details page 19:39 cait this should work 19:39 pastebot "cait" at 78.51.74.52 pasted "SELECT (SELECT CONCAT('<a href" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2 19:36 cait yes, there is a mistake in our internal wiki - trying to fix 19:35 nengard no prob 19:35 cait give me a min 19:33 cait wiki 19:33 cait probably a bad paste from the iwki 19:33 cait I am checking it 19:33 nengard ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'SELECT (SELECT CONCAT('<a href=\"/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumbe' at line 4 19:33 nengard cait 19:31 cait cool, let me know if it works :) 19:31 nengard testing now 19:31 nengard cait thank you!! 19:29 cait some of my libraries are using it 19:29 pastebot Someone at 78.51.74.52 pasted "borrowers with fines" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 19:29 nengard outstanding fines 19:28 nengard yes please 19:27 cait I think I have one for that 19:27 cait you want a report that lists all patrons with fines? 19:25 nengard anyone have an idea on how i can do it so that it's right? 19:25 nengard it's wrong because there are negative in the amountoutstanding column 19:24 nengard hello all, i need me some reports help. this report is one of the first i wrote - and it's wrong :) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines 19:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements 19:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6674 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Collapse display of patron address by default 19:19 * oleonard almost got Bug 6674 squashed, the last remnant of Bug 5436 to be split out. 19:07 cait Rain! 19:06 wizzyrea am I to understand that the items are not hidden now/ 19:05 wizzyrea so 6488 19:05 cait ? 19:00 wizzyrea that "neener" is my quote. 19:00 wizzyrea i honestly hope that the next time rangi runs stats 18:59 wizzyrea neener 18:59 oleonard :) 18:59 wizzyrea pf, it's implied as today is bug squashing day 18:59 oleonard You're wrong wizzyrea, no one is speaking of bug squashing 18:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , opachiddenitems not working in master 18:58 wizzyrea bug 6488 18:57 wizzyrea hey speaking of bug squashing 18:39 jcamins_away Oh, I have a meeting in 50 minutes. 18:38 jcamins_away Oh, never mind. Got it. 18:33 * jcamins_away crosses "try out lastest Master" off his to-do list. 18:32 jcamins_away Apparently the documentation for making packages is no longer accurate. 18:29 wizzyrea hehe 18:29 wizzyrea ohsnap 18:29 nengard mentally i make no promises 18:29 nengard physically 18:29 wizzyrea nengard, about? 18:23 jcamins_away Yay! 18:23 wizzyrea yes, I think so 18:23 jcamins_away Does that clarify things at all? 18:23 jcamins_away Every time I want to build a package, I do a git pull, so that I don't lose my place, and I can also get my branch as close as possible to current Master. 18:22 jcamins_away I commit those changes and add a tag so that I know where I was when I built a package. 18:21 jcamins_away Every time I build a package, I modify the change log. 18:21 wizzyrea i? 18:21 wizzyrea I is <reply> 18:21 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot i 18:21 wizzyrea forget I 18:21 jcamins_away Anyway, so I have my own branch for building packages from. 18:21 jcamins_away Hehe. 18:20 wahanui i think jcamins_away is currently working on fixing a bug. or building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason). 18:20 jcamins_away I? 18:20 wahanui jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications 18:20 jcamins_away jcamins? 18:20 wahanui okay, jcamins_away. 18:20 jcamins_away I am also building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason). 18:20 cait yay :) 18:19 jcamins_away (I did that last bit today) 18:19 jcamins_away I rebased my changes onto latest Master with git fetch && git rebase kc/master 18:19 jcamins_away I have a branch for the bug which I created several weeks ago (3.05.000.004). 18:18 jcamins_away I am currently working on fixing a bug. 18:18 wizzyrea hehe 18:18 jcamins_away In fact, I'll give you a concrete example of what I'm doing _right now_. 18:17 wizzyrea <3 thanks 18:17 jcamins_away I'll give you a concrete example of how I use the two options. 18:17 jcamins_away That's my recommendation. 18:17 wizzyrea so i think i'm hearing that fetch, rebase is the way to go for a non-public repo 18:16 wizzyrea oops. 18:16 jcamins_away The reason I couldn't find this record is that I hadn't imported it. 18:16 wizzyrea i'm not 18:16 libsysguy is anybody else going? 18:15 libsysguy there is hope if i type fast 18:15 libsysguy hey rhcl today is the last day for proposals 18:15 jcamins_away Grr. 18:14 sekjal but, for private repos, rebase is nice because it puts your changes at the top of the git log 18:14 sekjal avoid rebasing a public repo; it'll screw up anyone who's pulled from you 18:14 wizzyrea ^^ and that 18:14 oleonard So is there an advantage either way for getting a dev branch up to date? 18:13 sekjal there is an option to have it do rebase, instead 18:13 wizzyrea thoughts on which strategy is better? 18:13 wizzyrea oho 18:13 sekjal wizzyrea: git pull = git fetch + git merge 18:13 wizzyrea hmm 18:12 jcamins_away Exactly. 18:12 jcamins_away git pull is perfect for if you're maintaining a separate branch longterm. 18:12 oleonard Whereas if you fetch+rebase your patches appear after .[everything that was done upstream while you were working] ? 18:12 jcamins_away [all the patches up until you created your branch]...[your patches]...[everything that was done upstream while you were working] 18:11 jcamins_away So you end up with a git log that looks like this: 18:11 wizzyrea I don't think my git pull is working correctly 18:11 wizzyrea hmm 18:11 jcamins_away What it does is it runs git fetch, _then_ it applies all the new patches from upstream to your branch. 18:10 jcamins_away git pull is really simple. 18:10 jcamins_away Wow, step away ten minutes, and there's too much scrollback! 18:10 * wizzyrea too 18:10 oleonard I've always been confused about what git pull does 18:10 libsysguy im not sure of the difference betweel pull and fetch either 18:10 wizzyrea which is why I asked 18:10 wizzyrea I usually do git pull, but i'm not 100% certain of the reason why 18:09 oleonard both fetch and rebase? 18:09 wizzyrea which seems right 18:09 wizzyrea so you do both. 18:09 wizzyrea :) 18:09 oleonard And no one has yet told me that's wrong :) 18:09 oleonard Either way I fetch and then git rebase origin 18:08 wizzyrea (in progress also, if you feel compelled to share) 18:08 wizzyrea testing 18:08 oleonard wizzyrea: Your testing or in-progress branches? 18:08 wizzyrea not necessarily 18:08 libsysguy all at the same time? 18:07 wizzyrea what's the best or right way to update them 18:07 wizzyrea put another way 18:07 wizzyrea in git, what is the best way to make sure your branches are up to date 18:07 libsysguy rhcl: lol 18:06 wizzyrea I have a question of best practice 18:05 rhcl well, work up something for next year, and we'll hope it's in some more exotic location like....Dayton...Omaha... 18:04 libsysguy lol 18:04 libsysguy Margo said I could go if I got to do a presentation 18:04 libsysguy hmm 18:03 rhcl There are some mildly interesting ILS-related sessions. 18:03 rhcl_away I'm being herded into going, and I didn't know if any other Koha people might be there. 18:02 wizzyrea i suspect he wanted to know if his pals were going to be there 18:02 libsysguy i might check into it...i think it'd be awesome to go...may i ask why you asked? 18:02 rhcl_away Well, you need a new working location. 18:02 libsysguy hmmm 18:01 rhcl_away The Mo State Lib just got permission to use some unused admin funds for grants for us to attend. 18:01 libsysguy and its cold in here 18:01 libsysguy they never let me go anywhere...they just lock me in the server closet 18:01 libsysguy :'( 18:01 rhcl_away ic 18:01 libsysguy that'd be awesome but the great state of texas cut all of our travel budget 17:56 rhcl_away libsysguy: you going to the LITA conference by any chance? http://ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/lita/conferences/forum/2011/index.cfm 17:52 * libsysguy wishes i had cookies 17:50 oleonard Cookies are delicious delicacies. 17:50 libsysguy TGIF 17:50 cait why are we not talking about cookies? 17:50 cait hey - it's friday! 17:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5749 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, stephane.delaune, NEW , The display of borrower adresses composed of streetnumber, streettype and address is broken 17:04 oleonard Is the first patch on Bug 5749 obsoleted by the second? 17:03 jcamins_away Oh, here's one. Never mind. 17:03 jcamins_away Does anyone have a record with an 035 from OCLC I could borrow for testing? 17:01 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6673] Create Batch Label from Staged MARC Records fails after upgrade to 3.4.x <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6673> 16:52 cait bye paul_p 16:51 paul_p bye guys (& girls) 16:51 paul_p time for week end for me ! 16:37 oleonard Not sure why the changes in that bug were made, but I dutifully have pulled them out into their own patch from 5436 16:37 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6671] Change name of variable used when renewing patron expiration <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6671> 16:25 jcamins_away Hm. Thanks. 16:25 bg jcamins_away: not that I've seen - I know larryb have some fail the other day 16:24 huginn bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.0�C (9:23 AM PDT on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). 16:24 bg @wunder 93109 16:24 jcamins_away Have there been any additions to the package requirements recently? 16:11 libsysguy HI druthb 16:10 druthb hi oleonard and wizzyrea! 16:08 cait hi all 16:07 wizzyrea heya ruth :) 16:07 oleonard Hi 16:07 wahanui oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler 16:07 wizzyrea and oleonard! 16:07 cait :) 16:07 * druthb perks up, seeing cait and libsysguy. 16:06 * cait perks up ;) 16:06 cait new features? 15:56 wizzyrea :) 15:56 wizzyrea sure :() 15:56 paul_p wizzyrea, entering them on a ggdocs for now. Do you want access to it when it's done ? 15:56 paul_p some are tiny (add a link here), some are huge (like solr) 15:54 wizzyrea yikes! 15:52 paul_p still 110 to do... 15:52 paul_p won't have finished today... 15:52 * paul_p filling RFCs of pending features from BibLibre. believe it or no = 140 lines !!! 15:51 paul_p you're really late ;-) 15:51 paul_p 006 is at least 2 days old... 15:44 Agent_Dani :) 15:43 wahanui i think GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day 15:43 wizzyrea GBSD? 15:43 wizzyrea GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day 15:26 wizzyrea so I was half right :P 15:26 wizzyrea oh sorry, we're 006, hence "a couple behind" 15:26 wizzyrea database revisions :) 15:25 jcamins_away Looks like Master is 008. 15:25 wizzyrea which is a couple behind 15:23 wizzyrea i think we're running 008 in production 15:23 jcamins_away Excellent. 15:23 * wizzyrea doesn't 15:23 jcamins_away Wait... never mind. 15:22 jcamins_away Does anyone know of any reason *not* to upgrade from 3.05.00.004 to latest Master? 15:20 SJeffery Heh, I am always glad to see when it is NOT some variable in the configuration that I have just been missing 15:20 jcamins_away SJeffery: I don't believe the patch adding an index on 035 has been submitted to Koha yet, so it will require a server-side change. 15:19 jcamins_away SJeffery: it would be possible to set that up. 15:17 SJeffery Is there any provision for detecting/preventing duplicate records by their OCLC number when importing via Z39? 15:12 wizzyrea that is a really good question... I know that statistics are kept when a patron is deleted, but what about their reading history? 14:28 wizzyrea you guys crack me up 14:28 wizzyrea HEE 14:26 * gmcharlt predicts that Google will do that as an April 1st gag one day 14:25 jcamins_away wizzyrea: am I the only one who thinks "Google Blue Screen of Death" when I see that abbreviation? 14:17 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4966] no way to finish receiving <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4966> 13:45 wizzyrea so. GBSD 13:45 Agent_Dani Ouch... 13:44 wizzyrea due to an error in my alarm settings, that's about when mine went off too >.< 13:44 Agent_Dani My alarm goes off at 05:30 EDT. 13:44 Agent_Dani Mornin' wizzyrea 13:44 wizzyrea good morning, paul_p 13:44 paul_p hi wizzyrea 13:44 * wizzyrea is a CDT riser 13:43 Agent_Dani paul_p: Naw, a lot of east coast ones probably are, too. I'm an early riser for a few current-job-related reasons. 13:42 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5725] Batch modifications for Biblios <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725> 13:38 magnus_afk bbl 13:15 drojf ah, ok. thanks paul_p 13:15 paul_p drojf, they are not STORED INTERNALLY, but they're still here if you export/need to import 13:14 paul_p west coast ppl are just waking up right ? 13:14 drojf i have a question regarding import of marc21 records. for koha 3.2 i would put the holdings data in 952 and import it, but i understand that in 3.4, 9xx-fields are not used anymore. where would i put the holdings data in my records to be imported in 3.4? 13:13 Agent_Dani Waking? I've been up for four hours now. 13:11 Oak bonjour paul_p :) 13:11 paul_p hello Oak & druthb & all american ppl waking up 13:11 Oak hello #koha 13:11 Oak hi druthb :) 13:10 druthb hi, oak! 13:10 paul_p thanks for noticing ! 13:10 paul_p visa ? you need one ? ... checking ... yikes ! frenchies also need a visa ! 13:09 sekjal paul_p: that's the plan; still need to get some of the paperwork (Visa, specifically) taken care of 13:08 paul_p sekjal, will you come to KohaCon11 ? 13:08 paul_p ;-) 13:08 sekjal paul_p: just trying to keep caught up 13:07 paul_p sekjal, community day for you too it seems ;-) 13:06 paul_p hello sekjal / ian 12:39 drojf hello #koha 11:58 Agent_Dani Heya druthb 11:30 BrookeenTauride off oh la times xword you are so punny 11:18 druthb good 11:18 wahanui no idea, druthb 11:18 druthb wahanui: druthb? 11:18 druthb lol 11:18 wahanui friday is probably It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday 11:18 BrookeenTauride wahanui friday? 11:16 BrookeenTauride how's it? 11:15 druthb g'morning, BrookeenTauride. :) 11:14 huginn BrookeenTauride: The operation succeeded. 11:14 BrookeenTauride @later tell sekjal we need to create bug rugby. :D 11:13 BrookeenTauride kia ora! 11:10 druthb o/ 10:44 kf biblibre++ 10:44 paul_p ok, time for lunch for us. (and end of our half day dedicated to community. We made quite a lot of work with the few ppl not on holiday) 10:42 kf hm good point 10:42 paul_p not so lucky ;-) 10:42 paul_p kf, well, it's also winter for them now... 10:42 kf lucky kiwis 10:42 paul_p (it's already saturday for kiwis now !) 10:41 paul_p nengard, it's always friday. It's just that friday starts sooner for him than for you ;-) 10:41 kf hope the nap helps :) 10:41 nengard :) 10:41 kf not as bad as switching timezones, but glad weekend is near 10:40 kf nengard: was travelling too yesterday - 6 hours on trains 10:34 magnuse understandable! 10:33 nengard my body is very confused 10:33 nengard was in Seattle and took the red eye home and then this morning woke at 3am to get Bri to the airport 10:33 nengard thanks kf, not a coffee drinker - plan on taking a nap to get back on schedule 10:27 * kf hands nengard coffee 10:27 magnuse hehe 10:26 magnuse it started in kiribati while it was still yesterday for us, if you see what i mean... ;-) 10:26 nengard I'm very jeet lagged so I have no clue what day or time it is 10:26 nengard :) I believe you 10:26 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-08-05_Global_bug_squashing_day 10:25 nengard but yes, I can squash bugs 10:25 nengard I was signing off on patches when I should have been sleeping :) hehe 10:25 nengard rangi said it was yesterday :) 10:25 magnuse nope, today! 10:25 nengard wasn't that yesterday? 10:23 magnuse ready to squash some bugs? 10:22 magnuse kia ora nengard 10:21 nengard hiya 10:21 paul_p 'morning nengard 10:08 nengard hiya 10:08 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5981] OPAC: Add limits to search history <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5981> 10:08 kf hi nengard 10:04 kf gbsd++ 09:12 kf perhaps you need a new laptop ;) 09:09 paul_p oups... laptop frozen... if someone wrote something to me since 10:24, i missed it 09:06 huginn alex_a: fredericd was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 56 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <fredericd> hello druthb 09:06 alex_a @seen fredericd 09:05 alex_a fredericd: ping 08:24 magnuse ...or i could have another go at finnishing what i started... ;-) 08:24 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390> 08:22 paul_p I think i'll adopt this method & bug entry & do the job ! 08:22 paul_p VERY GOOD idea/suggestion ! 08:21 paul_p magnuse++ 08:20 kf magnuse++ :) 08:20 paul_p magnuse, nope, I missed that ! 08:19 magnuse it's similar to what you propose 08:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, P5, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer 08:19 wahanui I haven't seen 'bug', magnuse 08:19 magnuse paul_p: seen bug 6537 and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Simplified_syspref_handling_RFC ? 08:13 clrh thx magnuse 08:04 magnuse i have only ever used a plain old text editor to make small patches for the docs 08:03 clrh magnuse: yep 08:03 clrh http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual I read it 08:02 magnuse clrh: sounds like a question for nengard... 08:02 clrh ‘ is translated into ‘ 08:02 kf hi #koha and happy gbsd! 08:02 magnuse kia ora kf 08:02 kf hi # 08:02 clrh but my editor is in utf-8 08:02 clrh I have an encoding problem 08:02 clrh does someone work with xmleditor for koha doc? 07:54 paul_p back 07:49 clrh bonjour magnuse 07:46 magnuse bonjour clrh 07:45 clrh hello koha 07:33 paul_p magnuse, only a few BibLibre contributions to be expected for this GBSD: summer holiday... 07:32 sophie_m hello magnuse 07:32 paul_p quitting home, going to office now. 07:32 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:20 sophie_m hello 07:04 paul_p hi magnuse & others 07:04 magnuse kia ora paul_p 07:01 magnuse ouch! glad the hackfest was so early in the year... 07:01 julian_ magnuse, i'm fine too, but it's too hot in Marseille... 06:54 magnuse and how are you julian_? 06:51 julian_ :-) 06:51 magnuse fine - the sun is shining and it's friday and it's gbsd ;-) 06:50 julian_ how are you today? 06:50 julian_ hi wahanui, magnuse 06:50 magnuse bonjour julian_ 06:50 wahanui salut, julian_ 06:50 julian_ hello 06:41 magnuse hehe 06:41 alex_a each turn 06:40 alex_a yes 06:40 magnuse well, it's winter... 06:40 alex_a ouch 06:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (6:00 PM NZST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 06:39 magnuse @wunder wellington, nz 06:39 magnuse that's not bad, actually 06:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 06:39 magnuse @wunder boo 06:39 magnuse oooh 06:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0�C (8:30 AM CEST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 06:39 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:39 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 06:39 magnuse @wunder mariseille 06:38 alex_a :) 06:38 magnuse ah 06:38 alex_a magnuse: it's hot in rue de breteuil 06:31 magnuse bonjour alex_a - how's life in rue breteuil? 06:30 alex_a bonjour magnuse and all ! 06:19 magnuse kia ora and happy gbsd#3, #koha! 04:12 mtj right on! 04:12 wahanui DeM KraZy NutZ!! 04:12 mtj mtj? 04:12 mtj thanks again :) 04:11 mtj aah, me no see the 'Directives' page 04:11 rangi http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_IF_UNLESS_ELSIF_ELSE 04:11 rangi ahh sorry it is == 04:10 rangi yep, and the brackets arent nessecary 04:10 mtj [% IF ( singleBranchMode eq 'foo') %] 04:09 mtj sorry, friday-brain 04:09 rangi thats more like it, prolly eq in that case too 04:09 mtj yeah, ok :) 04:09 mtj [% IF ( singleBranchMode ) == 'foo' %] 04:09 rangi well it is, but not the way you are probably thinking :) 04:08 rangi thats not an eval 04:07 mtj anyone? 04:07 mtj is that eval ok in T::T? 04:07 mtj [% IF ( singleBranchMode ) = 'foo' %] 03:27 jcamins eythian: it's something published in honor of a person's birthday or retirement or the like. 03:27 BrookeenTauride <--- taking the piss out of academic rhetoric since 1977. 03:26 BrookeenTauride :) 03:26 jcamins BrookeenTauride: hehehe. 03:26 BrookeenTauride like I'd publish a festschrift on jransom 03:25 BrookeenTauride like a work of suckuppery 03:25 BrookeenTauride it's a cheerleading thing 03:25 eythian Looks like "party writing" 03:25 eythian What is a "Festschrift"? 03:17 eythian because it uses more current files 03:17 eythian very annoyingly, this would have just worked fine on the client's staging system 03:17 jcamins That explains it. 03:16 eythian in my dev system 03:16 eythian ah, I had an old ccl.properties 03:16 jcamins eythian: unfortunately I don't have any test data for it. 03:16 eythian I bet I know 03:16 eythian ohh 03:15 eythian anyone have ideas? 03:15 jcamins Cool! It does work. 03:15 eythian but getting: No results match your search for 'rcn:140680.7129'. 03:15 eythian w Record control number 140680.7129 03:15 eythian 773 ## - HOST ITEM ENTRY 03:15 eythian so I'm looking at a record with: 03:14 eythian if you do a restart of that, it'll show you 03:14 BrookeenTauride automagically++ 03:14 eythian the /etc/init.d/koha-common takes care of it 03:14 jcamins eythian: oh, excellent. :) 03:14 BrookeenTauride namaste 03:13 eythian it just does 03:13 jcamins eythian: how do I make Zebra start automatically? 03:13 kmkale Namaskar #koha 03:12 eythian hmm 03:12 eythian oh? 03:12 jcamins (not rcn- that's supplied by ccl.properties) 03:12 wahanui Record-control-number is an index in koha, not used in the 29.50 search options 03:12 eythian Record-control-number 03:12 eythian no 03:11 jcamins It should be Control-number. 03:10 eythian I'm on about 3.4.2 or so here 03:10 eythian not in the file, though I should see when the patch is for 03:10 eythian 0 03:10 eythian $ grep rcn etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs | wc -l 03:10 jcamins kf submitted a patch for that. 03:09 jcamins rcn should be indexed. 03:08 jcamins Ah. 03:08 eythian two things: one is a koha issue, rcn isn't being indexed, the other is it's using words that don't fit. 03:07 jcamins What's happening with it? 03:05 jcamins Oh, in that case, it should work properly. 03:05 eythian I just need to know how to tell Koha to show them properly 03:04 eythian well, they have the records in place, and I've linked them up using 773$w and 001 03:04 jcamins eythian: ah. That's gonna be a teeny bit complicated. 03:04 jcamins Oops. I needed to run the upgrade to 3.4 script. 03:01 BrookeenTauride neat 03:01 eythian or when you search for a local person, it shows you the file with clippings about them 03:01 eythian jcamins: Make it so if you look for a song, it links to the song book. 03:00 jcamins What are you trying to do? 02:59 eythian I think I see enough to make this work 02:59 eythian hmm OK 02:58 BrookeenTauride you might go into exhaustive detail about table of contents stuff, for instance that would apply to a member of the set where you couldn't cataloguing the series since it's not a common thinger. 02:57 eythian because a set links to the Control number of a parent record 02:57 eythian from what I can tell in the code 02:57 BrookeenTauride all great danes are dogs, but all dogs are not great danes 02:57 eythian but sets are little parts, too 02:57 BrookeenTauride the little part lets you add in more detail than you could get away with on the big one 02:56 eythian I see. so how does that differ from sets? 02:56 BrookeenTauride AND the volume you're looking at, say S 02:56 BrookeenTauride your doing the set of encyclopaedia 02:55 BrookeenTauride so if you're doing a World Book 02:55 BrookeenTauride it's describing the big thing and the little thing simultaneously 02:55 jcamins Usually articles. 02:55 jcamins Analytics are records for things that make up a part of something else. 02:55 jcamins eythian: ah, that's probably what happened. 02:54 eythian what actually is/are "analytics" in this context anyway? 02:54 eythian a2ensite runs automatically, unless you hadn't enabled rewrite the first time and it spat the dummy cos of that 02:54 eythian so I'd use 000/07=m 000/19=a for the parent, and 000/07=m 000/19=b/c for the parts 02:54 jcamins Forgot to run a2ensite. 02:53 jcamins Figured out the problem. 02:52 eythian I see 02:52 eythian oh wait 02:52 jcamins An analytic entry would have 000/07=a or 000/07=b 02:52 eythian all except that last part. 02:52 jcamins Clear? 02:52 jcamins 000/07=m 000/19=b/c is a part of another item. 02:51 jcamins A volume (000/07=m 000/19=a) is a book consisting of more than one article. 02:50 jcamins s/items/articles in it/ 02:49 jcamins eythian: 000-7 is for a serial publication with more than one items. 02:49 eythian in return, I'll tell you that you don't have NameVirtualHost enable quite right, and start by doing a2disable 000-default 02:48 eythian s/pop/pp/ 02:48 eythian and how I want to be setting up these things, which are, e.g. a song book containing multiple songs, or a file containing multiple names (of text clipopings) 02:47 eythian jcamins: I'll trade you: explain how analytics (with 000-7 set to 's') differs from volumes (with 000-19 set to 'a') from sets (with 000-19 set to 'c') 02:47 jcamins The default Apache page insists on coming up. 02:43 BrookeenTauride what's the failure point? 02:42 jcamins Okay, apparently making my own packages doesn't work. 02:38 eythian I expect that it will be :) 02:38 BrookeenTauride but for serious, I hope it is teh awesome Robin :) 02:37 BrookeenTauride totally your fault I don't have beer :P 02:37 eythian in fact, I have a 9:30am AGM at a pub, followed by beervana 02:37 eythian if you didn't get in on time, that's hardly our fault 02:37 eythian I have my ticket 02:37 eythian what are you talking about? 02:36 BrookeenTauride There doesn't appear to be a good synching over here with Beervana. 02:36 BrookeenTauride So I have a beef with my unpaid for Catalyst support. 02:35 jcamins rangi: thanks. 02:35 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start <-- that bit there 02:35 eythian have a look in the apache config to see what it did 02:34 eythian I don't know what it does if you don't set it up, probably makes it the same name for each one, which will upset apache 02:34 jcamins I think your packages work better than mine, because I did this in the past with your packages, and they Just Worked. 02:34 jcamins Ah. 02:34 rangi you had to set it up in the config file 02:33 jcamins Shouldn't it have asked me about how I wanted to configure it? 02:33 eythian but it's configurable 02:33 eythian typically something like <library>-admin 02:33 eythian jcamins: you go to the URL the corresponds to whatever you set up 02:32 jcamins eythian: how do you access the staff client with the packages? 02:30 BrookeenTauride 0/ 02:17 eythian http://i.imgur.com/Kxigd.jpg <-- here you go mtj, this'll make you feel better 01:28 mtj ps: sorry about that paste before, was sposed to be a private one :/ 00:44 jcamins Thanks. 00:42 rangi flushed 00:40 jcamins Yeah, spammers have found it. 00:39 rangi must be due for a flush soon 00:39 rangi its been up a while 00:38 jcamins 1909? Shouldn't we be in the low hundreds? 00:38 Judit 10.6 00:38 Judit i am 00:38 eythian I mean, to start with, who uses an Apple machine? 00:37 eythian that's not so hot 00:36 rangi ? 00:35 pastebot "mtj" at 122.59.254.107 pasted "oops" (91 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1909 00:34 libsysguy1 haha clever 00:34 rangi <style> 00:34 rangi blah 00:33 rangi </style> 00:33 rangi you can be tricky 00:33 rangi slap it in there and see if it shows up ;) 00:33 eythian won't that put it inside a style block? 00:33 libsysguy1 yeah it is 00:33 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes bad 00:33 libsysguy1 interesting 00:33 rangi thats a text area one eh? 00:33 libsysguy1 so the opacusercss 00:33 rangi i forget the exact name 00:33 rangi opac css 00:33 rangi yeah 00:33 libsysguy1 can i do it in an opac pref? 00:32 libsysguy1 how would I add "<link rel="stylesheet" href="mobile.css" type="text/css" media="handheld" />" without editing koha base code? 00:18 jcamins Ooh look, I correctly guessed who had written it. 00:16 rangi yeah 00:15 jcamins Horrifying, isn't it? 00:15 rangi right, well i have to change this for a client, ill see what i can do to make it configurable 00:14 * rangi weeps 00:14 rangi oh god 00:13 rangi yeah 00:12 jcamins I mean, that's all in Perl. 00:11 jcamins You know, making that part user-configurable wouldn't even be that hard. 00:10 rangi because C4::Search is crap 00:10 rangi bg: yes but we dont use it 00:10 rangi ta 00:10 jcamins bg: yes. 00:10 jcamins Cry. 00:10 jcamins rangi: search for "Keyword, or, no index specified" in Search.pm (somewhere around line 768). 00:10 bg right there is a cql file for koha - also... 00:09 jcamins bg: yes, but the Zebra side of the configuration is in ccl.properties, because that's what Search.pm uses. 00:09 bg isn't there a cql file? 00:09 rangi # Rank Weights 00:09 jcamins I remember. 00:08 jcamins Oh, wait. 00:08 jcamins I feel like that should be in ccl.properties, but I feel like I actually *found* where we were doing it at some point, and I'm just not seeing it in ccl.properties. 00:08 rangi im sure can do so by changing a file ccl.properties maybe 00:08 rangi what i want is a way to weight title and author higher than the rest 00:07 rangi maybe 00:07 bg rangi jcamins aren't you talking about the attributes? 00:03 rangi i took notes, but cant find them ;( 00:03 jcamins Me too. 00:03 rangi i hope sekjal can 00:03 rangi but i cant remember the specific fix 00:03 rangi yeah and then at the hackfest we discovered that yes, yet again, we are doing dumb things 00:02 jcamins I remember the conclusion was "good grief, no wonder relevancy doesn't work!!!" 00:02 wahanui pancakes are always good 00:02 Judit pancakes??? 00:02 rangi yeah 00:02 jcamins I mean, you and I discussed this. 00:01 rangi its annoyingly familiar but i cant remember specifics 00:01 jcamins I mean, not the one with IndexData. I wasn't there for that part of it. 00:01 rangi *nod* 00:01 jcamins This conversation seems familiar. 00:00 jcamins Wait...