Time  Nick            Message
22:57 rhcl            6:00pm, we're closing -- I'm out!
22:55 rhcl            hey, whats up?
22:52 bg              hiya rhcl
22:41 rhcl            ooohhh netsplit
22:03 * rangi         is off too
21:58 rangi           cya later
21:58 wizzyrea        aight, see u peeps later
21:57 rangi           true
21:57 wizzyrea        the values may not carry over :/
21:57 wizzyrea        bug uni tho
21:57 rangi           doesnt seem like it would be a hard sell
21:57 jcamins         [off] I don't think that's the case, but goodness knows I had to go through all sorts of contortions last year because of weird laws.
21:57 rangi           http://osuosl.org/
21:56 wizzyrea        and universities are weird about that stuf
21:56 wizzyrea        oo
21:56 rangi           oregon state
21:56 rangi           yeah thats true
21:56 jcamins         rangi: to be fair, employment law in the US is pretty screwed up, so it could be that it actually is his employer's decision.
21:56 wizzyrea        let someone else fix it :P
21:56 wizzyrea        so what if it's got a horrid wrong hack in it?
21:55 * wizzyrea      is evil.
21:55 wizzyrea        :P
21:55 wizzyrea        maybe his boss could compel him.
21:55 wizzyrea        yea, but if it's a cop out
21:55 rangi           but it is copyright him istn it?
21:55 rangi           ive heard both of those
21:55 wizzyrea        we should approach his employer :P
21:55 bg              gotta run
21:55 rangi           david hartman, on the devel list
21:54 bg              I asked him once and got the answer - it's his employers decision or something like that
21:54 wizzyrea        wasn't he concerned about it not being perfect?
21:54 rangi           lots of people have
21:54 bg              yeah you ever ask him that?
21:54 wizzyrea        no lie
21:54 jcamins         Disney? Huh?
21:54 rangi           wish he would just release it with a floss license
21:54 bg              terry reese
21:54 rangi           and can help the disney dude
21:54 wizzyrea        you helped me with git today
21:54 rangi           who knows about marcedit?
21:53 jcamins         Right! Thank you.
21:53 rangi           yep
21:53 bg              jcamins you helped rangi with weighted fields
21:53 jcamins         :)
21:53 wizzyrea        woot woot
21:53 rangi           nz vs australia in rugby tonight tho
21:53 wizzyrea        because you're helpful like that
21:53 wizzyrea        probably everybody jcamins
21:53 wizzyrea        :P
21:53 jcamins         Who did I help yesterday?
21:53 wizzyrea        that means we should have kohacon at disney world
21:53 cait            aww
21:53 bg              yeah awww
21:53 rangi           we'll try again next week
21:53 wizzyrea        aww
21:53 rangi           bg: he didnt want to play
21:53 cait            :)
21:52 cait            and you fed us joghurt pops
21:52 rangi           that oughta work
21:52 bg              rangi football today?
21:52 rangi           and disney use Koha
21:52 jcamins         Ooh, I helped people on IRC yesterday and today. :)
21:52 rangi           if the next ALA is at anaheim
21:52 rangi           so
21:52 wizzyrea        I didn't have the opportunity to dig up the answer myself
21:52 wizzyrea        :)
21:52 wizzyrea        her question
21:52 rangi           ?
21:52 cait            131 gold pieces - I am rich, but still no chocolate fish
21:50 wizzyrea        ah, that has been bugging me all day.
21:49 rangi           its what its for
21:49 rangi           yeah, ppl should use the stats table :)
21:48 rangi           no
21:47 cait            this game is evil
21:47 cait            lol
21:47 cait            people use issues tabe a lot for statistics too... and if the deletedborrower borrower is deleted, you couldn't reconstruct the person from the borrowernumber, right?
21:47 rangi           you can get the xp for that:)
21:47 rangi           is the short answer to her
21:47 rangi           either way, yeah the statistics are still there
21:47 wizzyrea        right right
21:46 rangi           and like cait said borrowers in deletedborrowers (assuming you use the interface to delete them, not in the db that is)
21:46 cait            hm
21:46 wizzyrea        I was thinking about the question from ms. peel
21:46 rangi           but the stats are still in statistics
21:46 wizzyrea        but not the stats
21:46 wizzyrea        to delete the oldissues when a patron is deleted
21:46 rangi           so the db might delete that row
21:46 wizzyrea        I personally think it'd be a good thing
21:45 rangi           it might be set to cascade deletes for old_issues
21:45 rangi           but check the foreign key constraints
21:45 rangi           d
21:45 rangi           that wont get delete
21:45 cait            so why should it delete the oldissues
21:45 rangi           the stats table exists
21:45 wizzyrea        true
21:45 wizzyrea        yea
21:45 wizzyrea        oo
21:45 cait            in deletedborrowers
21:44 cait            I am not entirely sure - but you keep the patron too
21:44 wizzyrea        their usage stats are kept I'm sure
21:44 wizzyrea        keeps their borrowernumber?
21:44 cait            but never looked into it
21:44 cait            it should not I think
21:44 cait            hm
21:44 wizzyrea        does deleting a patron delete their reading history?
21:44 wizzyrea        maybe someone knows
21:44 wizzyrea        oh, my question from earlier
21:42 sekjal          goodnight, all!
21:41 sekjal          there are hungry cats somewhere in Northampton
21:41 rangi           another question from disney
21:41 sekjal          and with that, I've got to dash
21:41 sekjal          agreed
21:40 rangi           id rather we are sure about them before we put them in :)
21:40 rangi           master
21:40 rangi           im too lazy to go round having to pull commits out of mater
21:40 wizzyrea        ^^
21:39 rangi           its the learning that doing stuff upfront to get set up, means you can do lots less later thats the good lazy
21:38 rangi           lazy is good
21:37 * sekjal        holds his tongue about how small patches are easy to test, and he likes that because he's lazy
21:37 druthb          libsysguy:   my $csv=Text::CSV->new({sep_char=>'|'});
21:37 libsysguy       i just missed it druthb
21:37 libsysguy       oh wait
21:36 libsysguy       sekjal++
21:36 libsysguy       druthb how do you set a delimiter in CSV_XS...i don't see it in the man page...it just says you can
21:36 cait            sekjal++ :)
21:35 rangi           sekjal++
21:35 sekjal          small patches are easy to test
21:35 sekjal          I'm all for using Bugzilla's "blocks" and "depends on" feature to link many, narrowly-focused bug reports together
21:34 libsysguy       wayy better than the last place i worked...it was constant creep
21:34 libsysguy       hehe
21:34 wizzyrea        :)
21:34 wizzyrea        someone quote him quick
21:34 wizzyrea        that we were STRICT
21:33 wizzyrea        did someone just say they were GLAD
21:33 wizzyrea        wait wait
21:33 libsysguy       that is what I was kind of thinking...im glad you guys are really strict on scope creep
21:33 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P1, ---, henridamien, NEW , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo
21:33 sekjal          bug 4032 is completely independent
21:32 sekjal          libsysguy:  don't worry about it, you're just fine.  it's good work
21:32 sekjal          and one that will give distinct all the distinct combos of location/callnumber in the same line, separated by commas, independent of status
21:32 libsysguy       sorry to cause some kind of stirr with that patch
21:31 libsysguy       oh right
21:31 sekjal          the one I described before (about not showing location if there are no items)
21:31 libsysguy       two more patches?
21:31 sekjal          going to add two more
21:31 sekjal          not at this time
21:31 libsysguy       sweet...anything you need from me?
21:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs
21:30 sekjal          libsysguy:  I've been working on the wrapup for bug 5079
21:30 druthb          I use Text::CSV_XS, mostly]
21:30 rangi           your face
21:30 libsysguy       your back
21:30 rangi           http://search.cpan.org/~erangel/Text-CSV/
21:30 libsysguy       eeek druthb
21:30 druthb          no, she's not.
21:30 rangi           was it this one ?
21:30 libsysguy       i think druthb is afk
21:30 jcamins         s/sheuses/she uses/
21:29 jcamins         libsysguy: ask druthb which module sheuses.
21:29 libsysguy       so im confused
21:29 rangi           looking at the wrong man page :)
21:29 rangi           there ya go :)
21:28 libsysguy       grr yes ies 1.21
21:27 rangi           and that module has no setdelimiter
21:27 rangi           ./koha_perl_deps.pl -i will tell ya
21:26 rangi           thats the one i have installed 1.21
21:25 rangi           trying to figure out what one you have :)
21:25 rangi           there are a few Text::CSV
21:25 rangi           http://search.cpan.org/~makamaka/Text-CSV-1.21/lib/Text/CSV.pm
21:25 * cait          wonders how a tired smiley looks like
21:25 libsysguy       hmm maybe I should try updating from cpan
21:25 cait            ah, sad not tired
21:25 cait            this smiley looks so tired
21:25 rangi           from cpan?
21:24 rangi           ump
21:23 libsysguy       v5.10.1
21:22 rangi           you have 05 eh?
21:22 libsysguy       rangi...that is where i found the method :'(
21:21 * rangi         consults cpan
21:19 libsysguy       hmm...i get an error of can't locate metod setDelimiter
21:19 jcamins         libsysguy: I did at some point, I think. Don't remember anything about it, though.
21:18 rangi           i havent libsysguy
21:18 * jcamins       gives libsysguy a yogurt ice pop.
21:18 cait            jcamins: you should give him a pop
21:18 libsysguy       sorry to butt in...
21:17 cait            a serious question from libsysguy
21:17 cait            oh
21:17 libsysguy       has anybody used the setDelimiter method in Text::CSV
21:17 cait            lol
21:15 jcamins         rangi: are you feeling neglected too?
21:15 jcamins         Small and fuzzy.
21:15 * wizzyrea      is getting confused.
21:15 wizzyrea        rangi? or small and fuzzy?
21:14 jcamins         I'm getting the sense he feels neglected.
21:14 rangi           hey, i only nibbled his fingers once!
21:13 jcamins         Heh. Someone small and fuzzy has stopped nibbling my fingers. He's now considering whether he's a match for the Hungarian cow that was made into my shoes.
21:13 cait            now it's finally a real friday :)
21:12 cait            me too
21:12 wizzyrea        i read that up there as "someone small and fuzzy is nibbling my fingers" and it looks like bg suggested that it might be rangi. This makes me laugh.
21:10 cait            druthb: do they have alibrary?
21:09 cait            that was before youtube :P
21:09 druthb          !
21:09 * rangi         goes to search youtube for that
21:09 rangi           lol
21:08 cait            i was either asleep or talking - and that changed every few seconds
21:08 wahanui         druthb is probably currently convincing the amish that they need to web 2.0
21:08 cait            druthb?
21:08 cait            rangi: not quite
21:07 wahanui         I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL
21:07 druthb          bg?
21:07 jcamins         It makes typing really difficult.
21:07 wahanui         I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
21:07 bg              rangi?
21:07 jcamins         Someone small and fuzzy is nibbling my fingers affectionately.
21:07 rangi           cait: is that when you threw a d20 at people and danced on tables?
21:06 wizzyrea        what I appreciate most about you people, is that every single day you make me laugh.
21:05 cait            I still get teased for the last time I had coffee at a role playing convention years ago :)
21:04 jcamins         cait: better avoid kahlua, then. :P
21:04 cait            hm. actually it's more that my company and friends are allergic to me consuming coffeine or alcohol
21:03 * druthb        is laughing so hard it hurts a lil
21:03 wizzyrea        oo, that's bad.
21:03 cait            I am allergic to coffeine and alcohol in that way
21:03 wizzyrea        but I still like it :)
21:03 * druthb        has the same allergy as wizzy
21:03 jcamins         No, allergic in the sense of "even a small taste of something with tequila makes me really sick."
21:02 wizzyrea        :P
21:02 wizzyrea        because I'm allergic in that way.
21:02 wizzyrea        or you're allergic in the way that drinking tequila makes you hang on to the floor for fear of falling off the world
21:02 cait            thx jcamins :)
21:02 jcamins         Nope.
21:02 wizzyrea        but not agave syrup?
21:02 jcamins_away    wizzyrea: I think I'm allergic to tequila.
21:01 * druthb        takes a yogurt pop.
21:01 druthb          mmmm
21:01 wizzyrea        you can make tequila out of agave syrup ;)
21:00 * jcamins_away  hands out yogurt ice pops.
21:00 cait            can I have some frozen joghurt please?
21:00 cait            yum
21:00 jcamins_away    70% dark chocolate, yogurt, Bailey's Irish Cream, and a small amount of agave syrup (the natural alternative to splenda;).
21:00 cait            ok
20:59 jcamins_away    Yeah, no worries about it being too sweet.
20:58 jcamins_away    (dark chocolate is _very_ healthy, thank you very much)
20:58 wizzyrea        especially if it's not too sweet
20:57 wizzyrea        yea, dark chocolate is actually quite good for you
20:57 jcamins_away    Also chocolate.
20:56 wizzyrea        booze helps most things.
20:56 jcamins_away    :)
20:56 jcamins_away    Actually, the alcohol helps the consistency quite a lot.
20:56 jcamins_away    With alcohol!
20:56 cait            ok, I will take that then ;)
20:55 jcamins_away    cait: frozen yogurt.
20:55 rangi           healthy smealthy
20:55 wizzyrea        oatmeal cookies with fruit :P
20:55 cait            jcamins_away: what is the healthy substitute for cookies?
20:51 cait            it's weekend!
20:51 cait            will tell magnuse later :P
20:51 cait            rangi++
20:51 cait            :)
20:48 rangi           t run then as well, but also when installing
20:48 rangi           xt are tests to be run when packaging/building releases etc
20:47 rangi           still wanna know the diff between xt and t ?
20:47 jcamins_away    However, I've been thinking about buying some this evening.
20:47 jcamins_away    We're out.
20:47 jcamins_away    Not at the moment.
20:46 wizzyrea        ^.^
20:46 wizzyrea        you have avocados then?
20:46 wizzyrea        exemplary_husbands++
20:46 wizzyrea        hehe
20:46 * jcamins_away  is very, very proud of himself- he has been an exemplary husband, making sure everything high-calorie in the house is healthy.
20:45 jcamins_away    Alas, no.
20:44 cait            have you brought cookies?
20:44 cait            :)
20:43 jcamins_away    I missed you, too. :)
20:43 druthb          always, jcamins_away!
20:39 jcamins_away    Hi guys, didja miss me?
20:02 magnuse         not so n00b after all then, perhaps... ;-)
19:59 cait            so this could probably not be it
19:59 cait            hm we already have database dependent tests
19:59 cait            extensible tests?
19:59 magnuse         extra tests? nah...
19:58 cait            magnuse: hm, not sure
19:58 cait            hm
19:58 libsysguy       :D thanks guys
19:58 nengard         congrats libsysguy
19:57 magnuse         n00b question: what's the difference between t/ and xt/ for test?
19:57 magnuse         libsysguy++
19:57 magnuse         woohoo
19:56 libsysguy       staff.catalog.uttyler.edu
19:56 libsysguy       catalog.uttyler.edu
19:56 libsysguy       w00t i got our urls working
19:55 nengard         heh
19:55 cait            but have to write patches for that
19:55 cait            and I still want to gain a chocolate fish
19:55 nengard         :)
19:55 cait            the picture on the front page is great
19:54 cait            I like the pictures
19:54 nengard         yes cait
19:53 cait            magnuse: http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/2011-08-04#i_729059
19:50 cait            to = too
19:50 cait            to many clicks?
19:50 cait            hm?
19:50 nengard         too hard to enter in everything i'm doing
19:50 nengard         i don't like the interface in that game
19:50 cait            hehe
19:50 cait            more xp for me -muhar
19:49 magnuse         ah, that looks promising cait - i was only looking in t/
19:48 cait            it's in xt I think
19:48 cait            yep
19:48 nengard         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Title.2FSubtitle_List
19:48 magnuse         i thought there was a test to find sysprefs missing from sql files, but i can't find it... does that ring any bells for anyone?
19:48 cait            I did?
19:48 nengard         cait you had another in there actually
19:47 cait            nengard++
19:47 cait            thx nengard
19:47 cait            my first report in the sql library!
19:47 cait            cool :)
19:46 nengard         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines
19:46 nengard         i have erased my report and put yours in there (with a few edits by me)
19:44 cait            the number of current checkouts
19:44 nengard         thanks
19:44 nengard         thansnk
19:43 cait            s
19:43 cait            checkout
19:41 nengard         what is Ausleihen
19:41 cait            no problem :)
19:41 nengard         I'll update the links and the language :)
19:41 nengard         thank you
19:41 nengard         cait that works!!
19:40 cait            ah, small thing you might want to fix, both the name and the fine link to the fines page in the borrower account, the first should link to the details page
19:39 cait            this should work
19:39 pastebot        "cait" at 78.51.74.52 pasted "SELECT (SELECT CONCAT('<a href" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2
19:36 cait            yes, there is a mistake in our internal wiki - trying to fix
19:35 nengard         no prob
19:35 cait            give me a min
19:33 cait            wiki
19:33 cait            probably a bad paste from the iwki
19:33 cait            I am checking it
19:33 nengard         ERROR 1064 (42000): You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'SELECT (SELECT CONCAT('<a href=\"/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumbe' at line 4
19:33 nengard         cait
19:31 cait            cool, let me know if it works :)
19:31 nengard         testing now
19:31 nengard         cait thank you!!
19:29 cait            some of my libraries are using it
19:29 pastebot        Someone at 78.51.74.52 pasted "borrowers with fines" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1
19:29 nengard         outstanding fines
19:28 nengard         yes please
19:27 cait            I think I have one for that
19:27 cait            you want a report that lists all patrons with fines?
19:25 nengard         anyone have an idea on how i can do it so that it's right?
19:25 nengard         it's wrong because there are negative in the amountoutstanding column
19:24 nengard         hello all, i need me some reports help.  this report is one of the first i wrote - and it's wrong :) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Patrons_w.2F_Fines
19:19 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
19:19 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6674 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Collapse display of patron address by default
19:19 * oleonard      almost got Bug 6674 squashed, the last remnant of Bug 5436 to be split out.
19:07 cait            Rain!
19:06 wizzyrea        am I to understand that the items are not hidden now/
19:05 wizzyrea        so 6488
19:05 cait            ?
19:00 wizzyrea        that "neener" is my quote.
19:00 wizzyrea        i honestly hope that the next time rangi runs stats
18:59 wizzyrea        neener
18:59 oleonard        :)
18:59 wizzyrea        pf, it's implied as today is bug squashing day
18:59 oleonard        You're wrong wizzyrea, no one is speaking of bug squashing
18:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6488 normal, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , opachiddenitems not working in master
18:58 wizzyrea        bug 6488
18:57 wizzyrea        hey speaking of bug squashing
18:39 jcamins_away    Oh, I have a meeting in 50 minutes.
18:38 jcamins_away    Oh, never mind. Got it.
18:33 * jcamins_away  crosses "try out lastest Master" off his to-do list.
18:32 jcamins_away    Apparently the documentation for making packages is no longer accurate.
18:29 wizzyrea        hehe
18:29 wizzyrea        ohsnap
18:29 nengard         mentally i make no promises
18:29 nengard         physically
18:29 wizzyrea        nengard, about?
18:23 jcamins_away    Yay!
18:23 wizzyrea        yes, I think so
18:23 jcamins_away    Does that clarify things at all?
18:23 jcamins_away    Every time I want to build a package, I do a git pull, so that I don't lose my place, and I can also get my branch as close as possible to current Master.
18:22 jcamins_away    I commit those changes and add a tag so that I know where I was when I built a package.
18:21 jcamins_away    Every time I build a package, I modify the change log.
18:21 wizzyrea        i?
18:21 wizzyrea        I is <reply>
18:21 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot i
18:21 wizzyrea        forget I
18:21 jcamins_away    Anyway, so I have my own branch for building packages from.
18:21 jcamins_away    Hehe.
18:20 wahanui         i think jcamins_away is currently working on fixing a bug. or building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason).
18:20 jcamins_away    I?
18:20 wahanui         jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications
18:20 jcamins_away    jcamins?
18:20 wahanui         okay, jcamins_away.
18:20 jcamins_away    I am also building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason).
18:20 cait            yay :)
18:19 jcamins_away    (I did that last bit today)
18:19 jcamins_away    I rebased my changes onto latest Master with git fetch && git rebase kc/master
18:19 jcamins_away    I have a branch for the bug which I created several weeks ago (3.05.000.004).
18:18 jcamins_away    I am currently working on fixing a bug.
18:18 wizzyrea        hehe
18:18 jcamins_away    In fact, I'll give you a concrete example of what I'm doing _right now_.
18:17 wizzyrea        <3 thanks
18:17 jcamins_away    I'll give you a concrete example of how I use the two options.
18:17 jcamins_away    That's my recommendation.
18:17 wizzyrea        so i think i'm hearing that fetch, rebase is the way to go for a non-public repo
18:16 wizzyrea        oops.
18:16 jcamins_away    The reason I couldn't find this record is that I hadn't imported it.
18:16 wizzyrea        i'm not
18:16 libsysguy       is anybody else going?
18:15 libsysguy       there is hope if i type fast
18:15 libsysguy       hey rhcl today is the last day for proposals
18:15 jcamins_away    Grr.
18:14 sekjal          but, for private repos, rebase is nice because it puts your changes at the top of the git log
18:14 sekjal          avoid rebasing a public repo; it'll screw up anyone who's pulled from you
18:14 wizzyrea        ^^ and that
18:14 oleonard        So is there an advantage either way for getting a dev branch up to date?
18:13 sekjal          there is an option to have it do rebase, instead
18:13 wizzyrea        thoughts on which strategy is better?
18:13 wizzyrea        oho
18:13 sekjal          wizzyrea:  git pull = git fetch + git merge
18:13 wizzyrea        hmm
18:12 jcamins_away    Exactly.
18:12 jcamins_away    git pull is perfect for if you're maintaining a separate branch longterm.
18:12 oleonard        Whereas if you fetch+rebase your patches appear after .[everything that was done upstream while you were working] ?
18:12 jcamins_away    [all the patches up until you created your branch]...[your patches]...[everything that was done upstream while you were working]
18:11 jcamins_away    So you end up with a git log that looks like this:
18:11 wizzyrea        I don't think my git pull is working correctly
18:11 wizzyrea        hmm
18:11 jcamins_away    What it does is it runs git fetch, _then_ it applies all the new patches from upstream to your branch.
18:10 jcamins_away    git pull is really simple.
18:10 jcamins_away    Wow, step away ten minutes, and there's too much scrollback!
18:10 * wizzyrea      too
18:10 oleonard        I've always been confused about what git pull does
18:10 libsysguy       im not sure of the difference betweel pull and fetch either
18:10 wizzyrea        which is why I asked
18:10 wizzyrea        I usually do git pull, but i'm not 100% certain of the reason why
18:09 oleonard        both fetch and rebase?
18:09 wizzyrea        which seems right
18:09 wizzyrea        so you do both.
18:09 wizzyrea        :)
18:09 oleonard        And no one has yet told me that's wrong :)
18:09 oleonard        Either way I fetch and then git rebase origin
18:08 wizzyrea        (in progress also, if you feel compelled to share)
18:08 wizzyrea        testing
18:08 oleonard        wizzyrea: Your testing or in-progress branches?
18:08 wizzyrea        not necessarily
18:08 libsysguy       all at the same time?
18:07 wizzyrea        what's the best or right way to update them
18:07 wizzyrea        put another way
18:07 wizzyrea        in git, what is the best way to make sure your branches are up to date
18:07 libsysguy       rhcl: lol
18:06 wizzyrea        I have a question of best practice
18:05 rhcl            well, work up something for next year, and we'll hope it's in some more exotic location like....Dayton...Omaha...
18:04 libsysguy       lol
18:04 libsysguy       Margo said I could go if I got to do a presentation
18:04 libsysguy       hmm
18:03 rhcl            There are some mildly interesting ILS-related sessions.
18:03 rhcl_away       I'm being herded into going, and I didn't know if any other Koha people might be there.
18:02 wizzyrea        i suspect he wanted to know if his pals were going to be there
18:02 libsysguy       i might check into it...i think it'd be awesome to go...may i ask why you asked?
18:02 rhcl_away       Well, you need a new working location.
18:02 libsysguy       hmmm
18:01 rhcl_away       The Mo State Lib just got permission to use some unused admin funds for grants for us to attend.
18:01 libsysguy       and its cold in here
18:01 libsysguy       they never let me go anywhere...they just lock me in the server closet
18:01 libsysguy       :'(
18:01 rhcl_away       ic
18:01 libsysguy       that'd be awesome but the great state of texas cut all of our travel budget
17:56 rhcl_away       libsysguy: you going to the LITA conference by any chance?  http://ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/lita/conferences/forum/2011/index.cfm
17:52 * libsysguy     wishes i had cookies
17:50 oleonard        Cookies are delicious delicacies.
17:50 libsysguy       TGIF
17:50 cait            why are we not talking about cookies?
17:50 cait            hey - it's friday!
17:04 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5749 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, stephane.delaune, NEW , The display of borrower adresses composed of streetnumber, streettype and address is broken
17:04 oleonard        Is the first patch on Bug 5749 obsoleted by the second?
17:03 jcamins_away    Oh, here's one. Never mind.
17:03 jcamins_away    Does anyone have a record with an 035 from OCLC I could borrow for testing?
17:01 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6673] Create Batch Label from Staged MARC Records fails after upgrade to 3.4.x <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6673>
16:52 cait            bye paul_p
16:51 paul_p          bye guys (& girls)
16:51 paul_p          time for week end for me !
16:37 oleonard        Not sure why the changes in that bug were made, but I dutifully have pulled them out into their own patch from 5436
16:37 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6671] Change name of variable used when renewing patron expiration <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6671>
16:25 jcamins_away    Hm. Thanks.
16:25 bg              jcamins_away: not that I've seen - I know larryb have some fail the other day
16:24 huginn          bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.0�C (9:23 AM PDT on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising).
16:24 bg              @wunder 93109
16:24 jcamins_away    Have there been any additions to the package requirements recently?
16:11 libsysguy       HI druthb
16:10 druthb          hi oleonard and wizzyrea!
16:08 cait            hi all
16:07 wizzyrea        heya ruth :)
16:07 oleonard        Hi
16:07 wahanui         oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler
16:07 wizzyrea        and oleonard!
16:07 cait            :)
16:07 * druthb        perks up, seeing cait and libsysguy.
16:06 * cait          perks up ;)
16:06 cait            new features?
15:56 wizzyrea        :)
15:56 wizzyrea        sure :()
15:56 paul_p          wizzyrea, entering them on a ggdocs for now. Do you want access to it when it's done ?
15:56 paul_p          some are tiny (add a link here), some are huge (like solr)
15:54 wizzyrea        yikes!
15:52 paul_p          still 110 to do...
15:52 paul_p          won't have finished today...
15:52 * paul_p        filling RFCs of pending features from BibLibre. believe it or no = 140 lines !!!
15:51 paul_p          you're really late ;-)
15:51 paul_p          006 is at least 2 days old...
15:44 Agent_Dani      :)
15:43 wahanui         i think GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day
15:43 wizzyrea        GBSD?
15:43 wizzyrea        GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day
15:26 wizzyrea        so I was half right :P
15:26 wizzyrea        oh sorry, we're 006, hence "a couple behind"
15:26 wizzyrea        database revisions :)
15:25 jcamins_away    Looks like Master is 008.
15:25 wizzyrea        which is a couple behind
15:23 wizzyrea        i think we're running 008 in production
15:23 jcamins_away    Excellent.
15:23 * wizzyrea      doesn't
15:23 jcamins_away    Wait... never mind.
15:22 jcamins_away    Does anyone know of any reason *not* to upgrade from 3.05.00.004 to latest Master?
15:20 SJeffery        Heh, I am always glad to see when it is NOT some variable in the configuration that I have just been missing
15:20 jcamins_away    SJeffery: I don't believe the patch adding an index on 035 has been submitted to Koha yet, so it will require a server-side change.
15:19 jcamins_away    SJeffery: it would be possible to set that up.
15:17 SJeffery        Is there any provision for detecting/preventing duplicate records by their OCLC number when importing via Z39?
15:12 wizzyrea        that is a really good question... I know that statistics are kept when a patron is deleted, but what about their reading history?
14:28 wizzyrea        you guys crack me up
14:28 wizzyrea        HEE
14:26 * gmcharlt      predicts that Google will do that as an April 1st gag one day
14:25 jcamins_away    wizzyrea: am I the only one who thinks "Google Blue Screen of Death" when I see that abbreviation?
14:17 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4966] no way to finish receiving <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4966>
13:45 wizzyrea        so. GBSD
13:45 Agent_Dani      Ouch...
13:44 wizzyrea        due to an error in my alarm settings, that's about when mine went off too >.<
13:44 Agent_Dani      My alarm goes off at 05:30 EDT.
13:44 Agent_Dani      Mornin' wizzyrea
13:44 wizzyrea        good morning, paul_p
13:44 paul_p          hi wizzyrea
13:44 * wizzyrea      is a CDT riser
13:43 Agent_Dani      paul_p: Naw, a lot of east coast ones probably are, too. I'm an early riser for a few current-job-related reasons.
13:42 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5725] Batch modifications for Biblios <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725>
13:38 magnus_afk      bbl
13:15 drojf           ah, ok. thanks paul_p
13:15 paul_p          drojf, they are not STORED INTERNALLY, but they're still here if you export/need to import
13:14 paul_p          west coast ppl are just waking up right ?
13:14 drojf           i have a question regarding import of marc21 records. for koha 3.2 i would put the holdings data in 952 and import it, but i understand that in 3.4, 9xx-fields are not used anymore. where would i put the holdings data in my records to be imported in 3.4?
13:13 Agent_Dani      Waking? I've been up for four hours now.
13:11 Oak             bonjour paul_p :)
13:11 paul_p          hello Oak & druthb & all american ppl waking up
13:11 Oak             hello #koha
13:11 Oak             hi druthb :)
13:10 druthb          hi, oak!
13:10 paul_p          thanks for noticing !
13:10 paul_p          visa ? you need one ? ... checking ... yikes ! frenchies also need a visa !
13:09 sekjal          paul_p:  that's the plan; still need to get some of the paperwork (Visa, specifically) taken care of
13:08 paul_p          sekjal, will you come to KohaCon11 ?
13:08 paul_p          ;-)
13:08 sekjal          paul_p:  just trying to keep caught up
13:07 paul_p          sekjal, community day for you too it seems ;-)
13:06 paul_p          hello sekjal / ian
12:39 drojf           hello #koha
11:58 Agent_Dani      Heya druthb
11:30 BrookeenTauride off oh la times xword you are so punny
11:18 druthb          good
11:18 wahanui         no idea, druthb
11:18 druthb          wahanui: druthb?
11:18 druthb          lol
11:18 wahanui         friday is probably It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday
11:18 BrookeenTauride wahanui friday?
11:16 BrookeenTauride how's it?
11:15 druthb          g'morning, BrookeenTauride. :)
11:14 huginn          BrookeenTauride: The operation succeeded.
11:14 BrookeenTauride @later tell sekjal we need to create bug rugby. :D
11:13 BrookeenTauride kia ora!
11:10 druthb          o/
10:44 kf              biblibre++
10:44 paul_p          ok, time for lunch for us. (and end of our half day dedicated to community. We made quite a lot of work with the few ppl not on holiday)
10:42 kf              hm good point
10:42 paul_p          not so lucky ;-)
10:42 paul_p          kf, well, it's also winter for them now...
10:42 kf              lucky kiwis
10:42 paul_p          (it's already saturday for kiwis now !)
10:41 paul_p          nengard, it's always friday. It's just that friday starts sooner for him than for you ;-)
10:41 kf              hope the nap helps :)
10:41 nengard         :)
10:41 kf              not as bad as switching timezones, but glad weekend is near
10:40 kf              nengard: was travelling too yesterday - 6 hours on trains
10:34 magnuse         understandable!
10:33 nengard         my body is very confused
10:33 nengard         was in Seattle and took the red eye home and then this morning woke at 3am to get Bri to the airport
10:33 nengard         thanks kf, not a coffee drinker - plan on taking a nap to get back on schedule
10:27 * kf            hands nengard coffee
10:27 magnuse         hehe
10:26 magnuse         it started in kiribati while it was still yesterday for us, if you see what i mean... ;-)
10:26 nengard         I'm very jeet lagged so I have no clue what day or time it is
10:26 nengard         :) I believe you
10:26 magnuse         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2011-08-05_Global_bug_squashing_day
10:25 nengard         but yes, I can squash bugs
10:25 nengard         I was signing off on patches when I should have been sleeping :) hehe
10:25 nengard         rangi said it was yesterday :)
10:25 magnuse         nope, today!
10:25 nengard         wasn't that yesterday?
10:23 magnuse         ready to squash some bugs?
10:22 magnuse         kia ora nengard
10:21 nengard         hiya
10:21 paul_p          'morning nengard
10:08 nengard         hiya
10:08 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5981] OPAC: Add limits to search history <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5981>
10:08 kf              hi nengard
10:04 kf              gbsd++
09:12 kf              perhaps you need a new laptop ;)
09:09 paul_p          oups... laptop frozen... if someone wrote something to me since 10:24, i missed it
09:06 huginn          alex_a: fredericd was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 56 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <fredericd> hello druthb
09:06 alex_a          @seen fredericd
09:05 alex_a          fredericd: ping
08:24 magnuse         ...or i could have another go at finnishing what i started... ;-)
08:24 huginn          New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6390>
08:22 paul_p          I think i'll adopt this method & bug entry & do the job !
08:22 paul_p          VERY GOOD idea/suggestion !
08:21 paul_p          magnuse++
08:20 kf              magnuse++ :)
08:20 paul_p          magnuse, nope, I missed that !
08:19 magnuse         it's similar to what you propose
08:19 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6537 enhancement, P5, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Simplified sysprefs for the web installer
08:19 wahanui         I haven't seen 'bug', magnuse
08:19 magnuse         paul_p: seen bug 6537 and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Simplified_syspref_handling_RFC ?
08:13 clrh            thx magnuse
08:04 magnuse         i have only ever used a plain old text editor to make small patches for the docs
08:03 clrh            magnuse: yep
08:03 clrh            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual I read it
08:02 magnuse         clrh: sounds like a question for nengard...
08:02 clrh            &lsquo; is translated into ‘
08:02 kf              hi #koha and happy gbsd!
08:02 magnuse         kia ora kf
08:02 kf              hi #
08:02 clrh            but my editor is in utf-8
08:02 clrh            I have an encoding problem
08:02 clrh            does someone work with xmleditor for koha doc?
07:54 paul_p          back
07:49 clrh            bonjour magnuse
07:46 magnuse         bonjour clrh
07:45 clrh            hello koha
07:33 paul_p          magnuse, only a few BibLibre contributions to be expected for this GBSD: summer holiday...
07:32 sophie_m        hello magnuse
07:32 paul_p          quitting home, going to office now.
07:32 magnuse         bonjour sophie_m
07:20 sophie_m        hello
07:04 paul_p          hi magnuse & others
07:04 magnuse         kia ora paul_p
07:01 magnuse         ouch! glad the hackfest was so early in the year...
07:01 julian_         magnuse, i'm fine too, but it's too hot in Marseille...
06:54 magnuse         and how are you julian_?
06:51 julian_         :-)
06:51 magnuse         fine - the sun is shining and it's friday and it's gbsd ;-)
06:50 julian_         how are you today?
06:50 julian_         hi wahanui, magnuse
06:50 magnuse         bonjour julian_
06:50 wahanui         salut, julian_
06:50 julian_         hello
06:41 magnuse         hehe
06:41 alex_a          each turn
06:40 alex_a          yes
06:40 magnuse         well, it's winter...
06:40 alex_a          ouch
06:39 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0�C (6:00 PM NZST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:39 magnuse         @wunder wellington, nz
06:39 magnuse         that's not bad, actually
06:39 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 17.0�C (8:20 AM CEST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
06:39 magnuse         @wunder boo
06:39 magnuse         oooh
06:39 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0�C (8:30 AM CEST on August 05, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
06:39 magnuse         @wunder marseille
06:39 huginn          magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
06:39 magnuse         @wunder mariseille
06:38 alex_a          :)
06:38 magnuse         ah
06:38 alex_a          magnuse: it's hot in rue de breteuil
06:31 magnuse         bonjour alex_a - how's life in rue breteuil?
06:30 alex_a          bonjour magnuse and all !
06:19 magnuse         kia ora and happy gbsd#3, #koha!
04:12 mtj             right on!
04:12 wahanui         DeM KraZy NutZ!!
04:12 mtj             mtj?
04:12 mtj             thanks again :)
04:11 mtj             aah, me no see the 'Directives' page
04:11 rangi           http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Directives.html#section_IF_UNLESS_ELSIF_ELSE
04:11 rangi           ahh sorry it is ==
04:10 rangi           yep, and the brackets arent nessecary
04:10 mtj             [% IF ( singleBranchMode eq 'foo')  %]
04:09 mtj             sorry, friday-brain
04:09 rangi           thats more like it, prolly eq in that case too
04:09 mtj             yeah, ok :)
04:09 mtj             [% IF ( singleBranchMode ) == 'foo' %]
04:09 rangi           well it is, but not the way you are probably thinking :)
04:08 rangi           thats not an eval
04:07 mtj             anyone?
04:07 mtj             is that eval ok in T::T?
04:07 mtj             [% IF ( singleBranchMode ) = 'foo' %]
03:27 jcamins         eythian: it's something published in honor of a person's birthday or retirement or the like.
03:27 BrookeenTauride <--- taking the piss out of academic rhetoric since 1977.
03:26 BrookeenTauride :)
03:26 jcamins         BrookeenTauride: hehehe.
03:26 BrookeenTauride like I'd publish a festschrift on jransom
03:25 BrookeenTauride like a work of suckuppery
03:25 BrookeenTauride it's a cheerleading thing
03:25 eythian         Looks like "party writing"
03:25 eythian         What is a "Festschrift"?
03:17 eythian         because it uses more current files
03:17 eythian         very annoyingly, this would have just worked fine on the client's staging system
03:17 jcamins         That explains it.
03:16 eythian         in my dev system
03:16 eythian         ah, I had an old ccl.properties
03:16 jcamins         eythian: unfortunately I don't have any test data for it.
03:16 eythian         I bet I know
03:16 eythian         ohh
03:15 eythian         anyone have ideas?
03:15 jcamins         Cool! It does work.
03:15 eythian         but getting: No results match your search for 'rcn:140680.7129'.
03:15 eythian         w Record control number 140680.7129
03:15 eythian         773 ## - HOST ITEM ENTRY
03:15 eythian         so I'm looking at a record with:
03:14 eythian         if you do a restart of that, it'll show you
03:14 BrookeenTauride automagically++
03:14 eythian         the /etc/init.d/koha-common takes care of it
03:14 jcamins         eythian: oh, excellent. :)
03:14 BrookeenTauride namaste
03:13 eythian         it just does
03:13 jcamins         eythian: how do I make Zebra start automatically?
03:13 kmkale          Namaskar #koha
03:12 eythian         hmm
03:12 eythian         oh?
03:12 jcamins         (not rcn- that's supplied by ccl.properties)
03:12 wahanui         Record-control-number is an index in koha, not used in the 29.50 search options
03:12 eythian         Record-control-number
03:12 eythian         no
03:11 jcamins         It should be Control-number.
03:10 eythian         I'm on about 3.4.2 or so here
03:10 eythian         not in the file, though I should see when the patch is for
03:10 eythian          0
03:10 eythian         $ grep rcn etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs | wc -l
03:10 jcamins         kf submitted a patch for that.
03:09 jcamins         rcn should be indexed.
03:08 jcamins         Ah.
03:08 eythian         two things: one is a koha issue, rcn isn't being indexed, the other is it's using words that don't fit.
03:07 jcamins         What's happening with it?
03:05 jcamins         Oh, in that case, it should work properly.
03:05 eythian         I just need to know how to tell Koha to show them properly
03:04 eythian         well, they have the records in place, and I've linked them up using 773$w and 001
03:04 jcamins         eythian: ah. That's gonna be a teeny bit complicated.
03:04 jcamins         Oops. I needed to run the upgrade to 3.4 script.
03:01 BrookeenTauride neat
03:01 eythian         or when you search for a local person, it shows you the file with clippings about them
03:01 eythian         jcamins: Make it so if you look for a song, it links to the song book.
03:00 jcamins         What are you trying to do?
02:59 eythian         I think I see enough to make this work
02:59 eythian         hmm OK
02:58 BrookeenTauride you might go into exhaustive detail about table of contents stuff, for instance that would apply to a member of the set where you couldn't cataloguing the series since it's not a common thinger.
02:57 eythian         because a set links to the Control number of a parent record
02:57 eythian         from what I can tell in the code
02:57 BrookeenTauride all great danes are dogs, but all dogs are not great danes
02:57 eythian         but sets are little parts, too
02:57 BrookeenTauride the little part lets you add in more detail than you could get away with on the big one
02:56 eythian         I see. so how does that differ from sets?
02:56 BrookeenTauride AND the volume you're looking at, say S
02:56 BrookeenTauride your doing the set of encyclopaedia
02:55 BrookeenTauride so if you're doing a World Book
02:55 BrookeenTauride it's describing the big thing and the little thing simultaneously
02:55 jcamins         Usually articles.
02:55 jcamins         Analytics are records for things that make up a part of something else.
02:55 jcamins         eythian: ah, that's probably what happened.
02:54 eythian         what actually is/are "analytics" in this context anyway?
02:54 eythian         a2ensite runs automatically, unless you hadn't enabled rewrite the first time and it spat the dummy cos of that
02:54 eythian         so I'd use 000/07=m 000/19=a for the parent, and 000/07=m 000/19=b/c for the parts
02:54 jcamins         Forgot to run a2ensite.
02:53 jcamins         Figured out the problem.
02:52 eythian         I see
02:52 eythian         oh wait
02:52 jcamins         An analytic entry would have 000/07=a or 000/07=b
02:52 eythian         all except that last part.
02:52 jcamins         Clear?
02:52 jcamins         000/07=m 000/19=b/c is a part of another item.
02:51 jcamins         A volume (000/07=m 000/19=a) is a book consisting of more than one article.
02:50 jcamins         s/items/articles in it/
02:49 jcamins         eythian: 000-7 is for a serial publication with more than one items.
02:49 eythian         in return, I'll tell you that you don't have NameVirtualHost enable quite right, and start by doing a2disable 000-default
02:48 eythian         s/pop/pp/
02:48 eythian         and how I want to be setting up these things, which are, e.g. a song book containing multiple songs, or a file containing multiple names (of text clipopings)
02:47 eythian         jcamins: I'll trade you: explain how analytics (with 000-7 set to 's') differs from volumes (with 000-19 set to 'a') from sets (with 000-19 set to 'c')
02:47 jcamins         The default Apache page insists on coming up.
02:43 BrookeenTauride what's the failure point?
02:42 jcamins         Okay, apparently making my own packages doesn't work.
02:38 eythian         I expect that it will be :)
02:38 BrookeenTauride but for serious, I hope it is teh awesome Robin :)
02:37 BrookeenTauride totally your fault I don't have beer :P
02:37 eythian         in fact, I have a 9:30am AGM at a pub, followed by beervana
02:37 eythian         if you didn't get in on time, that's hardly our fault
02:37 eythian         I have my ticket
02:37 eythian         what are you talking about?
02:36 BrookeenTauride There doesn't appear to be a good synching over here with Beervana.
02:36 BrookeenTauride So I have a beef with my unpaid for Catalyst support.
02:35 jcamins         rangi: thanks.
02:35 rangi           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze#Quick_Start   <-- that bit there
02:35 eythian         have a look in the apache config to see what it did
02:34 eythian         I don't know what it does if you don't set it up, probably makes it the same name for each one, which will upset apache
02:34 jcamins         I think your packages work better than mine, because I did this in the past with your packages, and they Just Worked.
02:34 jcamins         Ah.
02:34 rangi           you had to set it up in the config file
02:33 jcamins         Shouldn't it have asked me about how I wanted to configure it?
02:33 eythian         but it's configurable
02:33 eythian         typically something like <library>-admin
02:33 eythian         jcamins: you go to the URL the corresponds to whatever you set up
02:32 jcamins         eythian: how do you access the staff client with the packages?
02:30 BrookeenTauride 0/
02:17 eythian         http://i.imgur.com/Kxigd.jpg <-- here you go mtj, this'll make you feel better
01:28 mtj             ps: sorry about that paste before, was sposed to be a private one  :/
00:44 jcamins         Thanks.
00:42 rangi           flushed
00:40 jcamins         Yeah, spammers have found it.
00:39 rangi           must be due for a flush soon
00:39 rangi           its been up a while
00:38 jcamins         1909? Shouldn't we be in the low hundreds?
00:38 Judit           10.6
00:38 Judit           i am
00:38 eythian         I mean, to start with, who uses an Apple machine?
00:37 eythian         that's not so hot
00:36 rangi           ?
00:35 pastebot        "mtj" at 122.59.254.107 pasted "oops" (91 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1909
00:34 libsysguy1      haha clever
00:34 rangi           <style>
00:34 rangi           blah
00:33 rangi           </style>
00:33 rangi           you can be tricky
00:33 rangi           slap it in there and see if it shows up ;)
00:33 eythian         won't that put it inside a style block?
00:33 libsysguy1      yeah it is
00:33 wahanui         well, interesting is sometimes bad
00:33 libsysguy1      interesting
00:33 rangi           thats a text area one eh?
00:33 libsysguy1      so the opacusercss
00:33 rangi           i forget the exact name
00:33 rangi           opac css
00:33 rangi           yeah
00:33 libsysguy1      can i do it in an opac pref?
00:32 libsysguy1      how would I add "<link rel="stylesheet" href="mobile.css" type="text/css" media="handheld" />" without editing koha base code?
00:18 jcamins         Ooh look, I correctly guessed who had written it.
00:16 rangi           yeah
00:15 jcamins         Horrifying, isn't it?
00:15 rangi           right, well i have to change this for a client, ill see what i can do to make it configurable
00:14 * rangi         weeps
00:14 rangi           oh god
00:13 rangi           yeah
00:12 jcamins         I mean, that's all in Perl.
00:11 jcamins         You know, making that part user-configurable wouldn't even be that hard.
00:10 rangi           because C4::Search is crap
00:10 rangi           bg: yes but we dont use it
00:10 rangi           ta
00:10 jcamins         bg: yes.
00:10 jcamins         Cry.
00:10 jcamins         rangi: search for "Keyword, or, no index specified" in Search.pm (somewhere around line 768).
00:10 bg              right there is a cql file for koha - also...
00:09 jcamins         bg: yes, but the Zebra side of the configuration is in ccl.properties, because that's what Search.pm uses.
00:09 bg              isn't there a cql file?
00:09 rangi           # Rank Weights
00:09 jcamins         I remember.
00:08 jcamins         Oh, wait.
00:08 jcamins         I feel like that should be in ccl.properties, but I feel like I actually *found* where we were doing it at some point, and I'm just not seeing it in ccl.properties.
00:08 rangi           im sure can do so by changing a file ccl.properties maybe
00:08 rangi           what i want is a way to weight title and author higher than the rest
00:07 rangi           maybe
00:07 bg              rangi jcamins aren't you talking about the attributes?
00:03 rangi           i took notes, but cant find them ;(
00:03 jcamins         Me too.
00:03 rangi           i hope sekjal can
00:03 rangi           but i cant remember the specific fix
00:03 rangi           yeah and then at the hackfest we discovered that yes, yet again, we are doing dumb things
00:02 jcamins         I remember the conclusion was "good grief, no wonder relevancy doesn't work!!!"
00:02 wahanui         pancakes are always good
00:02 Judit           pancakes???
00:02 rangi           yeah
00:02 jcamins         I mean, you and I discussed this.
00:01 rangi           its annoyingly familiar but i cant remember specifics
00:01 jcamins         I mean, not the one with IndexData. I wasn't there for that part of it.
00:01 rangi           *nod*
00:01 jcamins         This conversation seems familiar.
00:00 jcamins         Wait...