IRC log for #koha, 2011-08-03

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00:15 jcamins_away I need a report that will give me a list of all records that *don't* have anything in the 751$a?
00:16 jcamins_away Whoops. Missed the rest of that sentence.
00:16 jcamins_away s/\?/ does anyone happen to know how to do that off the top of their head?
00:17 nengard jcamins_away this might be a help:[…]_without_subjects
00:17 eythian you could use the extractxml thing, and check to see if it IS NULL (or maybe empty string)
00:17 eythian or use a reference :)
00:17 nengard it's not what you want, but it's a report looking for empty subjects
00:18 jcamins_away nengard: thanks.
00:18 jcamins_away I knew someone had done it.
00:18 nengard no prob
00:18 nengard :)
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01:50 abdullatef Hi everybody!
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02:03 jcamins_away Hi, abdullatef.
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02:04 jcamins_away And libsysguy.
02:04 jcamins_away And NateC.
02:04 libsysguy hey jcamins_away
02:04 wahanui1 jcamins_away are you actually away?
02:04 libsysguy ^^
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02:04 jcamins wahanui1: what's with the attitude?
02:04 wahanui1 jcamins: i haven't a clue
02:05 libsysguy wahanui1 wahanui1 on the irc...who's the fairest of them all
02:05 wahanui1 libsysguy: huh?
02:05 libsysguy heh
02:06 libsysguy hey jcamins can you give me a hand with something
02:06 jcamins libsysguy: I can try.
02:06 libsysguy bug 5079 that i wrote a patch for
02:06 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs
02:06 libsysguy i deleted on accident
02:06 libsysguy and when i try and apply my submitted patch
02:06 libsysguy i get a conflict and it fails
02:07 jcamins Create a new branch, and apply the patch from scratch?
02:07 libsysguy i can attempt sec
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02:09 libsysguy i still get a conflict
02:10 libsysguy it happens with the script
02:10 jcamins And you can't resolve it?
02:10 jcamins Oh, of course.
02:10 libsysguy is there something im missing?
02:10 jcamins Yes. You will *always* have a conflict in the script.
02:10 libsysguy *smh*
02:11 jcamins You have to resolve it every time you rebase.
02:11 libsysguy aww man
02:11 libsysguy ok resolve it...i don't see a .mine or HEAD
02:11 libsysguy so its not a content conflict
02:11 rangi git status
02:11 rangi check that it has conflict
02:11 rangi then edit the fille
02:12 rangi look for a line with
02:12 rangi <<<<<<<
02:12 libsysguy it doesn't look like its in conflict...i've got several untracked files
02:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in so it won't destroy... <[…]9763737065635e68a>
02:14 libsysguy and there is no <<<<<< section in the update file
02:14 rangi oh, so its not a conflict then, just hte patch is not applying?
02:14 rangi whats the exact message you get when you apply it?
02:14 libsysguy error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/
02:14 libsysguy error: installer/data/mysql/ patch does not apply
02:15 libsysguy and some trailing whitespace warnings
02:15 rangi yeah, thats not a conflict, the patch is busted
02:15 libsysguy :'(
02:15 libsysguy my patch is busted
02:15 libsysguy there anything i can do or am i totally done for?
02:15 rangi usually that happens when you formatted it against a commit that doesnt exist in the branch you are trying to apply it to
02:15 rangi is it attached to the bug?
02:15 libsysguy yes
02:16 rangi 2 secs ill look
02:16 libsysguy thanks rangi
02:16 rangi first one, or second patch on that bug?
02:16 libsysguy both actaully
02:17 libsysguy first then second...sekjal told me the wrong way to do it instead of just amending it
02:17 libsysguy :'(
02:17 rangi will give it a try
02:17 libsysguy ok thanks
02:19 rangi first patch applies, gives me a conflict
02:19 rangi CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/
02:19 rangi how were you trying to apply it?
02:19 rangi git am -iu3 patchname
02:19 rangi ?
02:19 libsysguy git bz apply 5079
02:20 rangi yeah ok
02:20 libsysguy ok
02:20 rangi if htat fails
02:20 rangi you will notice it says something like
02:20 rangi Patch left in /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-l​ocation-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch
02:20 jenkins_koha Starting build 353 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #351 1 j 1 h ago)
02:20 libsysguy yes i see that
02:20 rangi do a git am --abort
02:20 rangi the git am -iu3  /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-l​ocation-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch
02:20 libsysguy ok
02:20 rangi whatever the filename actually is
02:20 rangi -3 says try a 3 way merge
02:22 libsysguy ohh i see the content conflict now
02:22 rangi cool
02:22 rangi then you fix that, and try the next patch ;)
02:22 libsysguy sweet
02:22 libsysguy thanks rangi
02:22 libsysguy rangi++
02:22 rangi np
02:24 libsysguy sweet it the man
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02:47 jcamins Argh! "Lugduni" is both Leiden and Lyons.
03:03 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
03:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #353: FIXED in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/353/
03:03 jenkins_koha frederick.capovilla: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in so it won't destroy the connection to the biblioserver.
03:03 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5737 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , ZOOM connection problem in when trying to do a batch merge.
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03:25 kmkale Namaskar #koha
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03:31 mtj heya kmkale
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03:49 new hello all
03:49 new i wouldlike to ask regarding koha 3.02.00
03:50 new i've completed the installation
03:50 new and it all went well
03:50 new i import data using Z39.50 and the data inputted into reservoir
03:51 new but i canno search the record inputted
03:51 rangi 3.2.0 ? why did you choose that? its quite old
03:51 rangi 3.4.3 is the latest release .. 3.2.10 was the last release of the 3.2.x line
03:51 new my library just migrated the old v2 koha into 3.2
03:52 new is 3.2.10 does no have this problem anymore?
03:52 rangi well there has been 10 bug fix releases since 3.2.0 .. and then 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.6 3.4.3 so its a about 9 months and lots of bug fixes behind current
03:53 rangi but what you are describing is not a bug
03:53 rangi the reserviour is not the catalogue
03:53 rangi you have to add the record into the catalogue, you did that?
03:53 new i do not know how
03:53 rangi and you have zebra running? and your cron job set up to build the indexes?
03:53 new would you help me?
03:53 rangi have you read the manual?
03:53 new yup
03:54 rangi it tells you how to add a record
03:54 rangi thats all i can tell you to do, the same as the manual says
03:55 new i did read the manual but it tells about importing records in bulk
03:55 new but i did not found any if i want to input one record at a time
03:57 rangi it does
03:57 rangi ill find the page
03:57 rangi[…]h=c8245#addbibrec
03:59 libsysguy I have a question about notices
03:59 new yes i did read that page
03:59 libsysguy is it true that you can only send 3 notices per overdue?
04:00 new but when i finished inputting it, when i search using opac it appears not results found
04:00 libsysguy new
04:00 libsysguy its probably not rebuilding zebra
04:00 libsysguy did you set up your cron to do that?
04:00 new yeah
04:00 libsysguy what is your rebuild rate set at?
04:01 libsysguy default is 10 mins i thing
04:01 libsysguy think*
04:01 new hold on i check
04:01 libsysguy so it would take 10 minutes for your item to show up
04:01 new lest than 3 seconds
04:01 new in fact i just want to try to add in only one new records
04:02 libsysguy well until that record is indexed it won't show up in the opac
04:02 new but the there were few fatal process, warn and etc
04:02 new would you show me how plz?
04:02 libsysguy try this: perl /path/to/misc/migration_tools/ -b -x -v -reset
04:03 libsysguy this will reset and rebuild your entire zebra index
04:03 new ok i'll try
04:03 libsysguy ok
04:04 libsysguy btw rangi is right you should probably try using 3.4
04:05 new it appears error "Could not select database biblios errCode=109"
04:06 new i really want to try 3.4 but my bos already ask the vendor to have 3.2
04:06 libsysguy ok well that is probably the root of your issue
04:06 libsysguy did you say you upgraded?
04:06 new yeah from 2.2.9 to 3.2.0
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04:07 libsysguy did you dump your database then drop it before you upgraded?
04:07 new fyi i'm not using the older database
04:07 libsysguy ok that is what i was getting at
04:07 libsysguy lol
04:07 new the reason is i want to relearn about koha 3.2
04:08 new it seems like i want to start from scratch
04:08 libsysguy i am curious why it is looking for the biblios table
04:08 libsysguy the table name is biblio
04:08 new is it in the mysql
04:08 new ?
04:08 libsysguy yes
04:09 new i really not good at it
04:09 libsysguy if you log into mysql and do: show tables;
04:09 libsysguy you should see a table called biblio
04:09 libsysguy before you upgraded you dumped your database right?
04:09 new yeah
04:10 rangi thats a zebra error
04:10 rangi libsysguy
04:10 wahanui1 libsysguy is probably curious why it is looking for the biblios table
04:10 rangi not mysql
04:10 new oo i c
04:10 libsysguy yes i was rangi
04:10 new then what should i do to fix it?
04:10 libsysguy how did wahanui1 read my mind
04:10 rangi so the biblio/biblios thing is a red herring
04:11 rangi "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" is a zebra error
04:11 libsysguy ahh
04:11 libsysguy silly zebra
04:11 rangi well its not zebra
04:11 rangi ppl blame it, but its always actually us
04:11 libsysguy i think i'd like to continue blaming seems to be easier that way lol
04:11 rangi id, talk to your vendor new, and say, is zebra indexing working
04:12 libsysguy ^^
04:12 rangi because from that error, it certainly doesnt look like it is
04:12 rangi and without that, search will never work right
04:13 new ok
04:13 new is there any way that i could learn this zebra ?
04:13 rangi yes, by lots of reading
04:13 libsysguy and magic
04:13 * rangi has to get back to work
04:13 libsysguy jk new
04:13 new lol :D
04:13 * libsysguy has to go to sleep
04:13 libsysguy its late here
04:14 new ok tq guys
04:14 new tq so much
04:14 libsysguy I'll talk to you guys later...good luck new
04:14 new tq libsysguy
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04:34 cait morning #koha
04:45 kmkale hi cait
04:45 cait hi kmkale
04:49 cait eythian++
04:50 eythian what'd I do?
04:50 cait comment again :)
04:50 eythian ah right :)
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06:24 alex_away hello !
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06:24 cait hi alex_a
06:25 alex_a hi cait
06:36 cait bye
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06:42 magnuse kia ora #koha
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06:46 magnuse namaste kmkale
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06:50 alex_a kia ora magnuse
06:50 magnuse bonjour alex_a
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07:02 kmkale hi magnus
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07:25 abdullatef Hi there
07:27 abdullatef can you help me?
07:27 abdullatef I have install the koha 3.4 on ubuntu
07:27 abdullatef ubuntu 11
07:28 abdullatef previously I have problem with the zebra
07:28 abdullatef now I believed it is solve
07:30 magnuse so what's your problem, abdullatef?
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07:37 abdullatef i want to confirm about the zebra
07:37 abdullatef is it really running or not
07:38 abdullatef when i run #ps ax|grep zebra
07:38 abdullatef i got this 1120 ?    S  0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha.koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml  1121 ?    S  0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -
07:39 abdullatef is my zebra running?
07:40 magnuse yeah, that looks promising
07:41 magnuse the best thing is probably to check that it actually works, though ;-)
07:41 magnuse add a record and search for it
07:42 abdullatef ok let see
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07:52 abdullatef i have imported a record and try to search
07:52 abdullatef no result
07:52 rangi you have the cron job set up
07:53 rangi because without that, zebra wont update its indexes
07:53 abdullatef how to check that?
07:54 mtj abdullatef: look in yr 'zebraqueue' table
07:54 rangi have you set up the cron job?
07:54 rangi if you havent, it wont be set up :)
07:54 mtj $ select * from zebraqueue where done = 0;
07:55 abdullatef i'll try that
07:56 abdullatef the cron job first
07:56 rangi look in misc/cronjobs/
07:56 rangi for a file crontab.example
07:56 mtj abdullatef: yes, rangi is right :)
07:56 rangi that will give you a hint how to do it
07:57 rangi make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra
07:57 rangi which is koha (according to your paste above) :)
07:58 abdullatef i see
07:58 abdullatef i just run # sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha
07:59 abdullatef and i got a file with :
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07:59 abdullatef # Environment variables used by Koha scripts KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml KOHAPATH=/usr/share/koha PERL5LIB=$KOHAPATH/lib  # The cronjobs 1 * * * *koha$KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/ -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null
07:59 rangi but formatted properly?
08:00 abdullatef not sure, i'll check the crontab.example
08:00 rangi that paste was all one line
08:00 rangi it should be multiple lines
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08:00 rangi try pasting it into
08:00 rangi and should end with one blank line
08:01 pastebot "abdullatef" at pasted "# sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha" (7 lines) at
08:04 rangi right try adding a newline at the end
08:04 rangi and then it should be all good
08:04 rangi and if you still cant find anything, then do like mtj suggested
08:04 rangi and look in hte db
08:04 rangi oh
08:05 rangi i see whats wrong
08:06 rangi 1 * * * *
08:06 rangi thats only gonna run once an hour
08:06 rangi at 1 minute past the hour
08:07 rangi i would make that */5 * * * *
08:07 rangi so it runs every 5 minutes
08:08 abdullatef meaning that, the search can be run after 1 hour?
08:08 rangi try a search now actually
08:08 rangi the way you have it set up, yes, it will only reindex once an hour, at 1 min past the hour
08:09 rangi its now 20:08 nztime .. so in theory it should have run 7 mins ago
08:10 rangi so maybe your search is now working
08:12 abdullatef still no results found
08:13 abdullatef i'll change the 1****
08:13 abdullatef to */5 * * * *
08:13 rangi and make sure the file contains a new line at the end, hit return a few times, it cant hurt :)
08:15 abdullatef :)
08:15 abdullatef hit return means?
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08:17 rangi put some newlines at the end of the file
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08:17 abdullatef oh,  i'm sorry :)
08:18 rangi (at least one)
08:18 abdullatef return = enter :)
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08:20 abdullatef rangi: make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra
08:20 wahanui1 i already had it that way, abdullatef.
08:21 abdullatef i have open the  crontab.example
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08:33 abdullatef In the file a found:
08:33 rangi i dont think you need to look at the crontab.example your file in cron.d looked fine except for the 1 and no newline at the end
08:34 pastebot "abdullatef" at pasted "crontab.example" (4 lines) at
08:34 rangi yep, you would have to put that in the koha users crontab
08:35 rangi your one you pasted before is fine, except for the 1, and no newline at the end of the file
08:36 abdullatef is it same $KOHAPATH with $KOHA_CRON_PATH ?
08:36 rangi assuming /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/  exists
08:36 rangi do a ls on that
08:36 abdullatef ok
08:38 abdullatef where is this usr located?
08:39 abdullatef i'll paste the ls
08:40 pastebot "abdullatef" at pasted "ls" (22 lines) at
08:41 rangi type
08:42 rangi ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/
08:44 pastebot "abdullatef" at pasted "ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migrati​on_tools/" (2 lines) at
08:44 mtj hey... rangi is just being helpful for the ChoreWorz XP ! :/
08:44 rangi heh
08:44 rangi abdullatef: ok then, so thats fine
08:44 rangi did you change to */5
08:45 rangi and put a newline at the end
08:46 * mtj looks for some gold to mine....
08:46 pastebot "abdullatef" at pasted "*/5 * * * *" (11 lines) at
08:47 abdullatef yes
08:47 rangi right, try looking in the db now, in the zebraqueue table
08:47 rangi and then ill have to go
08:48 abdullatef ok thanks
08:48 abdullatef me too, i need to go
08:49 abdullatef are the chat being saved anywhere?
08:49 rangi yes
08:49 rangi
08:49 abdullatef thanks
08:49 mtj right, go get that xp, rangi
08:49 abdullatef i really appreciate your help
08:50 magnuse rangi++
08:51 abdullatef Bye for now
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08:52 kf have to go to - to the train station and we have rain, thunder and lightning outside :(
08:52 kf @karma kf
08:52 huginn` kf: Karma for "kf" has been increased 67 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 67.
08:52 kf hm, no bad karma
08:53 mtj kf:  wear 2 hoods for heavy rain :)
08:53 kf 2 hoods?
08:54 mtj 1 jumper with hood + 1 jacket with hood
08:54 kf ah
08:55 mtj hood = Haube?
08:56 kf Kapuze :)
08:56 kf but haube is not wrong, only not quite right for a jumper
08:56 kf or a jacket
08:58 mtj ahh, haube is like a bonnet
08:59 kf haube makes me think of something a woman in medievil times would wear
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09:02 magnuse have a safe journey, kf!
09:03 kf thx magnuse
09:03 kf I have an hour before I have to leave
09:04 kf playing with the test installation now, making sure all examples work :)
09:04 magnuse good idea! ;-)
09:10 kf hm
09:11 kf the zebra striping in a lot of tables seems to be broken in 3.4.3
09:11 magnuse kf: do you have an uptodate version of TT?
09:11 kf not sure
09:11 kf butI would think so
09:11 kf hm
09:12 magnuse are you missing the striping on search results?
09:12 kf yes
09:12 kf Template is 2.20
09:12 magnuse on ubuntu or debian?
09:13 kf ubuntu
09:13 kf lts version
09:14 magnuse i think i had a situation where the stripes were missing when i had the apt-get-able version of TT, and then i cpan'ed it and got the stripes back
09:14 kf ok
09:14 magnuse my production server has tt 2.22
09:14 kf I think for the presentation it will be ok
09:42 kf weather--
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09:53 magnuse \o
09:56 druthb Hi magnuse!
09:56 kf hi druthb
09:56 kf and bye #koha
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10:18 rangi paul_p: you have changed the author on 4415
10:18 rangi im going to change it back to srdjan if you have no objections
10:19 paul_p yikes ! I made that probably when/by adding "Nicole signed off" manually...
10:19 paul_p no objection, of course !
10:21 * druthb waves to rangi and paul_p
10:23 rangi cool, fixed and pushed
10:23 rangi hi druthb
10:23 paul_p hi druthb
10:25 rangi there are hundred of libraries on 2.2 still paul
10:25 rangi all around the world
10:25 rangi i know of a lot in pakistan and the philipines
10:27 rangi plus there are all the windows users
10:28 * druthb shudders
10:28 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be manag... <[…]b1eeb8e6dce2742f8>
10:28 * magnuse too
10:28 magnuse let's hope strawberry perl can help them move to 3.x
10:29 rangi id rather they move to linux, but either way, they will need to migrate
10:30 magnuse ah yes, of course
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10:30 magnuse linux ftw! but it sounded like that might not be too much of an option in e.g. pakistan, strange as that might seem
10:30 rangi oh nope we are getting there
10:31 rangi i got an email from farasat
10:31 rangi he has koha running under linux now
10:31 magnuse yay!
10:31 magnuse that's excellent news!
10:31 rangi yup, i have to reply and help him with one issue he has
10:31 rangi but it is good news
10:31 magnuse woohoo
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10:34 sekjal_mobile haha! victory!
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10:35 jenkins_koha Starting build 354 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
10:36 * magnuse looks quizzically at sekjal_mobile
10:40 rangi connected via tor
10:50 magnuse ah
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11:16 druthb o/
11:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #354: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/354/
11:19 jenkins_koha srdjan: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be managed separately
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11:27 Agent_Dani Heya druthb!
11:32 druthb hi, Agent_Dani! :)
11:37 jwagner paul_p, online?
11:38 paul_p yep (back from lunch just a few minuts ago)
11:38 jwagner Couple of questions for you or anyone else (thought you might know the answers, though).  First, is there a conversion tool to go from UNIMARC to MARC21 records?  I seem to remember there is.
11:40 paul_p jwagner, there is a XSLT at iirc
11:40 jwagner for display? Or actual conversion?
11:40 paul_p I think for actual conversion
11:40 paul_p (but i haven't tested it, so I don't guarantee !)
11:41 jwagner OK, I'll take a look there.  Second is from one of my French Canadian sites -- is there a MS Windows plugin or popup for Windows XP to let you type diacritics?  They're having problems with original cataloging
11:41 jwagner I'm told in Windows 7 there is a popup alternative keyboard for languages, but I don't know about XP
11:42 paul_p well, jwagner = french keyboards already have diacritict, plus remember, i'm an OpenSource man, so no windows here ;-)
11:43 jwagner Oh well.  Anyone else?
11:43 paul_p (my last MS-windows was windows 98. Really)
11:43 paul_p not that I know (and french keyboards have diacritics, so I don't know anyone using a tool for that)
11:44 jwagner OK, will keep looking. Thanks.
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11:56 Oak hello #koha
11:57 druthb hi Oak.
11:57 Oak hello druthb :)
11:57 magnus_lunch jwagner: seen bug 6536? "The conversion from UNIMARC to MARC21 currently only supports the most important MARC fields and should gradually be extended to cover remaining fields"
11:57 wahanui1 I haven't seen 'bug', magnus_lunch
11:57 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing
11:58 * magnus_lunch wanders off again
11:58 jwagner no, hadn't gotten there yet -- thanks magnus.  Thought I remembered something somewhere....
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12:26 jwagner !auit
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12:39 tcohen hi    #koha
12:44 jwagner paul_p, re my earlier question about alternative keyboards, this link got something working in Win XP -- FYI.[…]inputoptions.html
12:48 magnuse jwagner: this is perhaps not what you are thinking about?[…]C_screen_keyboard
12:49 jwagner no, but it's interesting. Thanks!
12:49 magnuse np
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13:27 libsysguy morning #Koha
13:30 druthb hi, libsysguy!
13:30 libsysguy druthb i saw where you were concerned about my poor data yesterday
13:31 druthb your poor abused data...
13:31 libsysguy i did abuse my data yesterday
13:31 libsysguy i had to delete my master branch and move it to a new one
13:32 druthb ugh
13:32 libsysguy i know...sirsi wouldn't let me just change the branch in there
13:32 libsysguy :-\
13:33 libsysguy i guess i should rephrase that...i didn't know how and neither did margo
13:33 libsysguy so i just changed in in koha
13:34 druthb yup..i frequently tell libraries *don't* do a bunch of cleanup and this and that in your current system--let me do it with mappings.
13:34 libsysguy there was some problem we were having with using a map
13:34 libsysguy but i forgot what it was
13:35 libsysguy i think it was patrons and bills
13:35 libsysguy maybe
13:48 tcohen importing holdings is the same as of 3.0.x ? The wiki seems incomplete on that (even 3.2 section is to be completed)
13:57 magnuse tcohen: what wiki page are you looking at?
13:57 tcohen magnuse:[…]_fields_%289xx%29
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13:58 magnuse guten tag cait
13:58 cait hi magnuse
13:58 magnuse tcohen: i don't think there were any changes from 3.0 to 3.2
13:59 tcohen and from 3.2 to 3.4 ?
13:59 magnuse not any big changes there either
14:00 magnuse i use the table for 3.0 as my reference
14:00 tcohen as items where removed from marcxml/marc we should perhaps make explicit
14:00 tcohen that as of bulkmarcimport everything is as it used to
14:00 tcohen t oavoid confusion
14:01 magnuse yeah, that would be a good idea
14:03 Oak cait
14:04 cait Oak
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14:21 tcohen paul_p: ufff
14:21 paul_p tcohen, ?
14:21 tcohen paul_p: i'll try to steal some time from my bosses to rebase that code
14:22 paul_p tcohen, if you prefer, I suggest you wait a little bit to rebase = there are many patches waiting QA that will have an updatedatabase. So you may have to do it more than once !
14:22 * cait waves
14:22 paul_p hi cait
14:22 cait internet_connection_on_trains--
14:23 cait hi paul_p
14:23 cait :)
14:23 paul_p cait = do you remember that less than 10 years ago having internet "everywhere" was even not a dream !
14:23 cait I know
14:23 cait I should be happy that I have a connection
14:23 tcohen paul_p: ok, remember that latest patches apply to new/enh/bug_5166
14:23 cait ...
14:24 tcohen and that branch should be rebased to master
14:24 paul_p mmm... tcohen maybe it's worth a comment on the patch, I missed that !
14:24 paul_p s/comment on the patch/comment on the bug/
14:24 tcohen but as this patches need to be rebased for sure, and thus need to be signedoff again maybe i'll rebase  against master...
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14:37 oleonard
14:39 magnuse oleonard: rda springs to mind... ;-)
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14:52 oleonard paul_p: Thanks for the kohastructure.sql correction
14:53 paul_p your welcome
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15:09 miguel Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode - España
15:10 slef miguel: No-uno es aquí
15:10 slef that's wrong translation of no-one :-/
15:11 slef too literal
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15:12 miguel no hay nadie
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15:12 tcohen #startmeeting Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting
15:12 huginn` Meeting started Wed Aug  3 15:12:20 2011 UTC.  The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at
15:12 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
15:12 Topic for #koha is now  (Meeting topic: Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting)
15:13 tcohen #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, UNC, Cordoba, Argentina
15:13 miguel #info Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode, España
15:14 tcohen alguien mas por ahi? hilongo?
15:14 slef #info MJ Ray,, Somerset, England
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15:15 tcohen bueno, me parece que somos pocos, no se que conviene que hagamos
15:15 jati #info Juan Romay (Xercode)
15:15 tcohen #topic Spanish speaking community mail list administration / move to official FQDN
15:15 Topic for #koha is now Spanish speaking community mail list administration / move to official FQDN (Meeting topic: Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting)
15:16 slef te hiero con malespañol
15:16 tcohen No tenemos quorum me parece
15:17 slef quorum = ?
15:17 paul_p oleonard, if you have a few minuts, pls look at 5436, there's a comment/checking I'd like you to do. Thanks
15:18 tcohen slef: it's latin
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15:18 tcohen I think we don't hace enough attendees
15:19 tcohen to make a desition
15:19 tcohen on moving the koha-es list to the domain and maintenance
15:19 slef tcohen: si, quanto?
15:20 tcohen 3 es poco me parece
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15:21 tcohen is there a hastag for abort meeting?
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15:21 slef try #info ABORTED then #endmeeting
15:22 slef or #info followed by your reason, then endmeeting
15:22 slef http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ha-td3264811.html
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15:23 tcohen #info interested parties could not attend
15:23 tcohen #info meeting postponed
15:24 tcohen #endmeeting
15:24 Topic for #koha is now Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting.
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15:26 pabloab :/ late, but I was present..
15:28 slef pabloab: better luck next time
15:29 cait ks
15:30 cait what I really wanted to type was: Is the meeting over?
15:31 tcohen cait: yes
15:32 cait ok
15:35 oleonard paul_p: Shouldn't Bug 5436 not pass QA until the updatedatabase change is made?
15:35 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
15:36 paul_p oleonard, usually, chris take care of this when applying the patch to master, because the final number depends on the order of applying patches.
15:36 paul_p For some other patches, i've added a small commit to propose a version number, but it will be chris that decide/pick the right number
15:37 paul_p this is a limit of the version numbering we have (and it's a pain, definetly, but I don't have another proposition at hand... probably something to investigate for 4.0...)
15:37 oleonard Maybe I just don't understand how atomicupdate is used? I thought one must change but put in XX for the version number.
15:38 paul_p atomicupdate is anotherway to update the database, you just link the atomic update to the at final merge.
15:39 paul_p it's handy to avoid git am conflicts because your updatedatabase was done after 017 and when it's tested, we are already at 024. In this case, even a XXX will result in a conflict
15:39 paul_p (as it detects it should be after 017, and see something's wrong)
15:40 paul_p I agree we should have a more formal/documented/unique way to submit DB update though !
15:41 libsysguy ^^
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15:42 oleonard paul_p: I'm not complaining about the process, I just wasn't aware of this option. We need better documentation of our process, but no one has offered a better suggestion for changing the procedure.
15:42 tcohen oleonard++
15:43 paul_p (this option is rarely used, that's why I specify it for chris/ian, to avoid a mistake)
15:44 paul_p tcohen, you can use this atomicupdate for your patch if you want too ! could avoid having conflicts later.
15:45 tcohen paul_p: exactly!
15:45 paul_p (but pls: also explain on the bug how to apply all patches, or squash them (git rebase -i if you don't know how to squash)
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15:45 oleonard squashing++
15:45 tcohen i'll squash them
15:46 paul_p sometimes a follow-up is better, sometimes, it becomes a nightmare to check and squashing is better
15:46 tcohen the problem with that bug is that there are patches against master
15:46 tcohen and against the topic branch
15:46 tcohen i don't know how is that handled
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16:16 gmcharlt paul_p: out of curiosity, is the type of evaluation that of any relevance in France (asking because they see to be primarily a French site, albeit with lots of English translations)
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16:16 oleonard An elusive gmcharlt appears.
16:17 * jwagner gets out the butterfly net
16:18 paul_p gmcharlt, I never heard of qsos before now. Although, i've heard rumors of websites like this one (maybe this one) at a conference last year. So it've in the radar of some ppl, but not widely spread yet afaik
16:19 gmcharlt is why I'm asking, although obviously that particularly evaluation is a bit ... old
16:19 paul_p => 23 October 2006
16:19 paul_p Listes de évaluations disponibles
16:19 paul_p Liste des templates d’évaluations disponibles
16:19 paul_p quite old too...
16:21 paul_p I may have seen this sheet already. Something in my brain says that. But it was a long time ago...
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16:23 paul_p OK, it's time to leave for me ! busy but useful day. Now ... going to the beach (lucky man I am, I know ;-) )
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16:30 piware Goodbye
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17:20 tcohen r u away already?
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17:43 cait hi #koha
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18:08 oleonard I wonder if we need another patch status for "seeking information."
18:08 oleonard For instance, Bug 6124 has a good question in the comments, but no response.
18:08 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6124 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , In some biblios are empty.
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18:10 cait hm
18:11 cait would not be as hard as failed qa
18:12 cait needs feedback perhaps?
18:13 oleonard That's nicely concise
18:14 cait and a bit shorter in the pull down
18:19 bg hey cait - Quick question - were librarians able to search for patrons via email address before?
18:23 bg never mind got the answer - I think it was stripped
18:23 oleonard bg: Before what?
18:23 bg 3.4 I guess
18:23 bg I can't search via email right now - and I only tried on a 3.4 box
18:24 cait bg - i don't know it
18:24 oleonard We wrote a custom PHP script for that because we wished we had it
18:24 bg it's all good
18:24 cait what I miss is sending an empty search to get all borrowers
18:25 cait oleonard: I think you could do it nicely with a custom report and runtime parameter now
18:25 oleonard Not ideal.
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18:27 cait not sure what you want it to do exactly - ideal would be a possibility to filter/search an all fields  :)
18:27 oleonard Yeah, that's what I want.  A patron advanced search interface.
18:27 * cait nods
18:28 * oleonard has found wishing for it to be ineffective for several years now
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18:29 cait hm
18:29 cait programmig it would be an alternatie
18:30 cait but lots of things to think about
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19:16 rhcl_away @seen snowman
19:16 huginn` rhcl_away: I have not seen snowman.
19:17 rhcl_away OK, well, if you do, give me a heads up.
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19:30 libsysguy so I deleted a branch that had all my bibs/patrons attached to it after i moved them to a new branch and now when i do a search i just get a * fror libraries that links to the deleted branch
19:31 libsysguy did i mess something up
19:34 jcamins_away cait1: around?
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19:34 cait1 I hope
19:34 jcamins :)
19:34 cait1 but I don't trust the internet connection
19:34 jcamins Ah.
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19:42 druthb hi, jcamins!
19:42 jcamins Hi, druthb!
19:42 jcamins Still enjoying Bird-in-Hand?
19:43 druthb love it.
19:43 libsysguy bird in hand?
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19:43 cait1 was going to ask that too
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19:43 libsysguy cait1 and I are curious campers lol
19:44 druthb adjacent to the campground is a farm...all day yesterday, we watched a very serious-looking bearded man working--he had some ancient gasoline-powered implement on a wagon-like contraption, being pulled by two horses.
19:46 druthb libsysguy: my daughter and I are camping near Bird-In-Hand, PA.
19:46 druthb In the Amish country
19:46 libsysguy OHHHH!!!
19:46 libsysguy well that makes more sense than a bearded man
19:47 jcamins It's an absolutely beautiful area.
19:48 libsysguy does anybody know how to import authorities
19:48 libsysguy or is there a wiki on it
19:48 libsysguy i didn't even look
19:48 druthb it is.  When the Amish and Mennonite people settled here, they felt that God had given them the Perfect Place for their work and lifestyle--and I'm inclined to agree with them on that.  It's great land here.
19:48 cait1 libsysguy: same way you import biblios (from commandline) using -a
19:49 libsysguy ohh
19:49 * libsysguy is retarded
19:49 cait1 check the ---h for bulkmarcimport :)
19:49 druthb cait++
19:49 libsysguy cait1++
19:49 druthb libsysguy++  #smart enough to ask questions!
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19:49 cait1 xp!
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19:50 * jcamins thinks about warning libsysguy about the fact that the authorities may not do what he's expecting, and then stops before he disheartens the poor fellow.
19:50 jcamins Do you want Jared's Standard Disclaimer Regarding LCSH-style Authorities in Koha (TM)?
19:50 * libsysguy wonders why jcamins is always bringing him down
19:50 libsysguy just like the man lol
19:51 libsysguy umm sure
19:51 rangi morning
19:51 jcamins libsysguy: I do it for everyone, not just you.
19:51 jcamins ;)
19:51 druthb hi rangi
19:51 libsysguy haha jcamins hi rangi
19:52 cait1 You level up! You are now a Level 3 Enchanter!
19:52 cait1 haha
19:52 jcamins libsysguy: basically, the point where you're going to run into problems is that your authorities are not going to be linked in any way to your bib records, and the link_authorities_to_biblios script doesn't work.
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19:52 libsysguy how ironic
19:52 cait1 hi rangi
19:52 libsysguy well...i think our authorities are all out of date anyway
19:52 libsysguy from what i understand
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19:53 libsysguy (and i have no idea what authorities are...i just know it costs a lot of money to get them done)
19:53 jcamins So the authorities can be used to ensure that a heading has already been authorized when cataloging, but they will not really provide a usable access point into the catalog.
19:53 libsysguy gotcha
19:53 cait1 hm
19:53 libsysguy ill pass that along
19:53 cait1 you could migrate an old authorities number from your current system
19:53 jcamins At least for right now.
19:53 jcamins cait1: but that only helps if the authority numbers are embedded in the bib records.
19:54 cait1 right
19:54 * libsysguy feels like there is about to be librarian talk about to happen
19:54 cait1 and you are right about the access point
19:54 cait1 would be great if we could get that working
19:54 jcamins cait1: I agree.
19:55 cait1 would dom help that problem?
19:55 jcamins Yes.
19:55 jcamins There would also need to be a display customization, but indexing that doesn't make one weep is a good first step.
19:56 jcamins I think ByWater is working on adding authority searching in the OPAC. "Did you mean 'Smith, John, 1900-1981'?"
19:57 cait1 hm yes
19:57 * libsysguy has to run
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19:58 cait1 what I would like to see is aphabetic registers and a way to find a title searching for one form of the name that was written under a pseudonym/other name form
19:58 jcamins Can I get xp for scaring someone off of IRC? :\
19:58 cait1 I fear not
19:58 cait1 but you helped me
19:58 jcamins Aww. Darn.
19:58 jcamins Yay!
19:58 jcamins Wait, I did?
19:59 cait1 sure
20:00 cait1 I have t send more patches, I want a chocolate fish
20:00 rangi how did the presentation go?
20:02 cait1 it's tomorro
20:02 cait1 w
20:02 cait1 took half a day to get here - 6hours on train
20:03 rangi ahhh
20:03 * rangi is doing rfp again today :(
20:03 bg NateC?
20:03 wahanui1 I LIKE SPACE!
20:04 * cait1 sends rangi cookies
20:04 druthb talljoy?
20:04 wahanui1 I CRUNCH DATA
20:04 NateC rangi: I feel you pain man
20:04 cait1 druthb?
20:04 druthb muhahaha
20:04 cait1 hm
20:05 cait1 poor wahanui... he got geblitzdingst
20:05 rangi RFP : you're doing it wrong! !!!
20:06 druthb geblitzdingst?
20:06 jcamins jcamins?
20:06 wahanui1 you are supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications
20:07 druthb mercy
20:07 cait1 flashy-thinged
20:07 cait1 (mib)
20:08 rangi bg?
20:08 cait1 rangi?
20:08 druthb lol
20:08 NateC rangi: yep, RFP = Really Fu@%ed Paper
20:08 druthb back in a few....
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20:09 rangi my stop bbiab
20:15 rangi back
20:15 rangi and before i forget
20:16 rangi a plug for one of the projects one of the catalyst staff works on
20:16 rangi
20:17 cait1 a plug?
20:18 jcamins A plug?
20:18 jcamins A plug!
20:18 jcamins A plug!
20:18 rangi
20:18 jcamins Everybody ought to have a plug...
20:18 rhcl_away it's a thing to catch fish with
20:18 rhcl_away a fishing lure
20:19 * jcamins gives up.
20:19 rangi hmm that doesnt have the meaning thats used here
20:19 rangi to plug something can be used to mean, to advertise
20:20 rangi n.
20:20 rangi a free advertisement or a commercial boost from someone for a product. (See also plugola.) :  I managed to get a plug on the Mike Michael show.
20:20 rangi tv.
20:20 rangi to give an advertisement or commercial boost for something without having to pay for it. :  I want to get on that TV program and plug my new book.
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20:20 rangi :)
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20:31 cait1 that thing looks mean
20:32 rhcl_away yea, probably scared the fish away rather than caught them
20:33 rhcl_away we're surrounded by a power outage, although we still have el-.  Should I close down all the computers, do you think? And go home?
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20:36 rangi so
20:36 cait1 so?
20:36 wahanui1 so is, like, there an expirationdate and an expiredate
20:36 rangi i have a bunch of post graduate level students in australia, what things could they help out with in koha
20:37 jcamins What are they studying?
20:37 rhcl_away abstract the db
20:37 rangi lis
20:38 rhcl_away oh, disregard
20:38 cait1 hm
20:38 rangi  <-- her students
20:38 cait1 documentation?
20:38 wahanui1 documentation is at
20:38 cait1 usability testing?
20:38 rangi oh thats a good idea
20:39 cait1 ideas for new innovative features?
20:39 cait1 test plans?
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20:41 rangi cool that gives me ideas thanks
20:42 cait1 k
20:42 cait1 can I get xp now?
20:42 * cait1 hides
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20:51 rhcl_away We hired a new bookstore manager two days ago, and the Friends bought her a nice new 17" notebook computer w/ Win 7. I worked and worked trying to get the D&# thing connected to the wireless network....
20:51 rhcl_away finally gave up and installed Linux Mint 11.
20:51 rhcl_away It works.
21:00 cait1 hehe
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21:25 libsysguy rangi: what is the link to your blog
21:26 libsysguy I thought i saw something on there the other day about serials in 3.6
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21:27 rangi
21:27 cait1 serials in 3.6?
21:27 rangi i dont think i wrote anything about that
21:28 jcamins Aww.
21:28 libsysguy so no serials work :'(
21:28 cait1 we already have serials?
21:28 cait1 what are you missing?
21:28 libsysguy holdings?
21:29 cait1 and don't look so sad...
21:29 cait1 holdings?
21:29 libsysguy im just going off an email I got from our acquisitions librarian
21:29 * libsysguy is about to enter a discussion I don't know much about
21:29 jcamins libsysguy: as far as I know, MFHD has not been sponsored by anyone.
21:29 libsysguy MFHD?
21:29 wahanui1 somebody said MFHD was MARC Format for Holdings Data
21:30 libsysguy ohh
21:30 cait1 wahanui1 botsnack cookie
21:30 wahanui1 thanks cait1 :)
21:30 jcamins That's what your acquisitions librarian wants.
21:30 libsysguy gotcha
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21:42 libsysguy is anybody using ldap auth on master?
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21:46 jcamins libsysguy: a bunch of people are. sekjal would be able to tell you about it.
21:49 libsysguy well i just wanted to see if anybody else was getting an error
21:51 jcamins I don't know anything about it, sorry.
21:51 libsysguy its cool jcamins...ill stalk sekjal
21:53 rhcl_away libsysguy, did you resolve your exproxy questions?
21:53 * libsysguy tries to remember ezproxy questions
21:54 libsysguy was it perhaps getting ezproxy to work with shib
21:54 rhcl_away yea, shibboleth related, late last week
21:54 libsysguy yes i did...kind of...turns out our university doesn't use shib as an SSO...silly i know
21:56 * Agent_Dani fondly remembers ezproxy.
21:57 jcamins "Fondly"?
22:00 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <[…]852f48ba5b5bc2bb7> / 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. <[…]e19905e8f1cf34a5e> / Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing... <http://
22:03 rangi libsysguy: ive got a new one for ya
22:03 rangi
22:05 libsysguy rangi you have a true programmers taste in music
22:05 * libsysguy approves
22:05 jenkins_koha Starting build 355 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:05 rangi who cant approve of using darth vaders voice for your incar navigation
22:09 Agent_Dani jcamins: It was fairly trouble-free in my experience, far more so than a lot of other software I was dealing with in that job.
22:09 jcamins Go figure.
22:09 libsysguy well heck...its got ez right in the name
22:13 jcamins libsysguy: so does fez, and have you ever seen anyone pull off one of those with panache?
22:15 libsysguy touche` jcamins
22:16 libsysguy hey you think you could take a peed at this for me
22:16 libsysguy this is what the serials librarian sent me
22:17 rangi ah they just want a bunch of display changes
22:17 libsysguy is that it?
22:17 rangi yep
22:17 rangi its all template changes
22:18 libsysguy cool...css and js ftw
22:18 libsysguy i just wanted to verify that is all it was
22:18 rangi well that analytics one, could be that there isnt a link .. but the rest is all display
22:19 jcamins UT Tyler doesn't use analytics, so you can just hide it.
22:19 rangi easy peasy
22:19 libsysguy sweet
22:19 libsysguy nothing new
22:21 Agent_Dani libsysguy: Heh! The "ez" claim worried me at first, but compared to dealing with a lot of the stuff from HP, Oracle, etc...
22:21 libsysguy there is nothing ever eazy from Oracle
22:21 * libsysguy hates Oracle
22:21 libsysguy **for what they did to JAVA
22:22 rangi and solaris
22:22 rangi and mysql
22:22 rangi and openoffice
22:22 Agent_Dani I can't say I'm a fan either. A part of my motivation for leaving that job was that I was basically becoming the dump-on person for Oracle DBA tasks that the DBAs didn't want to do.
22:22 rangi and basic human decency
22:22 chilts hmmm ... and for doing Oracle too!
22:22 rangi oh yeah and oracle
22:22 chilts :)
22:22 rangi what a sack of crap that is
22:22 rangi oh look its crashed again
22:23 chilts indeed, glad I don't touch it these days
22:23 libsysguy ESPECIALLY Oracle
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22:23 Agent_Dani I only deal with stuff that connects to Oracle DBs; I don't have to actually deal with the DB anymore.
22:23 mtj i have a good friend working at oracle-nz
22:24 chilts my friend used to work for acompany that got taken over by Oracle ... first thing they did was give them pay rises
22:24 chilts 2nd thing they did was forced them to use their crappy internal tools
22:25 chilts I figure it was a giving with one hand and a taking with the other
22:25 mtj it sounds like epic wtf's on a daily basis there :/
22:25 Agent_Dani libsysguy: I will admit that after the early work in '99-early 2000, my involvement with ezproxy was systems side. I no longer dealt with configuring databases within it.
22:26 libsysguy ahh...well all i deal with is setting it up on the system
22:27 mtj afaik, all phbs at oracle are either playing golf, or updating their facebook
22:27 libsysguy sounds about right mjt
22:28 Agent_Dani The worst task I had to do with it was setup auth with DRA Web2, which was available in a then-brand-spanking-new beta release of EZP.
22:29 mtj chilts: 3rd thing was force staff to sign 'all-your-work-belong-to-us' NDAs - til the staff complained
22:30 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5602: Changes to account for the version update. <[…]c2293b3bf062f4152> / bug 5602: Rewriting the package making script Now it is a perl script. Various pdebui... <[…]9e3e8c9d7a51835ce> / Bumping database version <
22:30 chilts mtj: heh, yeah, that's probably it
22:32 rangi chilts: wheres that place you can get a desk for a day?
22:32 chilts there are two in Welly ...
22:32 * chilts looks
22:33 chilts and ...
22:33 * chilts is still looking
22:37 chilts
22:37 chilts phew, found it
22:38 chilts I think you can have them for a day but as part of a 4 or 5 days a month contract
22:38 chilts so I don't think you can just turn up - I asked BizDojo about that but they didn't get back to me
22:38 rangi ahh right
22:38 rangi wasnt there somewhere you were going occasionally?
22:38 chilts heh, the library :)
22:39 chilts but no, I was _thinking_ about BozDojo but it's quite expensive I feel
22:39 chilts esp. since I've got mobile broadband
22:39 rangi hmm some company
22:39 rangi i remember you telling me at miyabi
22:39 chilts ah ... you're thinking of Jelly at ...
22:39 chilts erm
22:39 rangi thats it
22:40 chilts Boost
22:40 chilts[…]working-for-free/
22:40 rangi ta
22:40 chilts np
22:40 chilts it's not really a desk, more like a couch, coffee and wifi
22:40 chilts though there are a few tables you can sit at
22:44 mtj oooh, boost++
22:45 chilts mason have you been before? I went a few times but found it didn't have that much atmosphere
22:45 mtj no, me never...
22:45 mtj i aint fussy tho, re: atmosfere
22:46 mtj i often were big headfones so i dont get distracted, so less is often better for me
22:47 chilts I need to bring my headphones in to my current work
22:47 mtj ... listening to soothing whale/dolphin muzak, while i werk
22:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #355: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/355/
22:48 jenkins_koha * Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket)
22:48 jenkins_koha * 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket.
22:48 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
22:48 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4959 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---,, ASSIGNED , Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket.
22:48 mtj i'm finishing off the lorien barcode thing
22:49 jenkins_koha Starting build 356 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:49 mtj oops, wrong window.. :/
22:50 jenkins_koha Starting build 26 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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22:54 bg it feels hot here
22:54 bg @wunder 93109
22:54 huginn` bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.4�C (3:53 PM PDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady).
22:55 bg yup 72
22:55 bg *sigh*
22:55 rangi heh
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22:59 jcamins @wunder 11375
23:00 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 22.0�C (6:55 PM EDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady).
23:00 jcamins \o/
23:00 jcamins It's less hot here, in August, than in Santa Barbara.
23:01 jcamins Unfortunately, it's pouring, and there is heat radiating off the walls.
23:02 jcamins (so I can't really enjoy it)
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