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jcamins_away |
I need a report that will give me a list of all records that *don't* have anything in the 751$a? |
00:16 |
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jcamins_away |
Whoops. Missed the rest of that sentence. |
00:16 |
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jcamins_away |
s/\?/ does anyone happen to know how to do that off the top of their head? |
00:17 |
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nengard |
jcamins_away this might be a help: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_without_subjects |
00:17 |
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eythian |
you could use the extractxml thing, and check to see if it IS NULL (or maybe empty string) |
00:17 |
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eythian |
or use a reference :) |
00:17 |
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nengard |
it's not what you want, but it's a report looking for empty subjects |
00:18 |
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jcamins_away |
nengard: thanks. |
00:18 |
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jcamins_away |
I knew someone had done it. |
00:18 |
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nengard |
no prob |
00:18 |
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nengard |
:) |
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abdullatef |
Hi everybody! |
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jcamins_away |
Hi, abdullatef. |
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jcamins_away |
And libsysguy. |
02:04 |
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jcamins_away |
And NateC. |
02:04 |
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libsysguy |
hey jcamins_away |
02:04 |
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wahanui1 |
jcamins_away are you actually away? |
02:04 |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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02:04 |
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jcamins |
wahanui1: what's with the attitude? |
02:04 |
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wahanui1 |
jcamins: i haven't a clue |
02:05 |
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libsysguy |
wahanui1 wahanui1 on the irc...who's the fairest of them all |
02:05 |
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wahanui1 |
libsysguy: huh? |
02:05 |
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libsysguy |
heh |
02:06 |
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libsysguy |
hey jcamins can you give me a hand with something |
02:06 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I can try. |
02:06 |
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libsysguy |
bug 5079 that i wrote a patch for |
02:06 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs |
02:06 |
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libsysguy |
i deleted on accident |
02:06 |
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libsysguy |
and when i try and apply my submitted patch |
02:06 |
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libsysguy |
i get a conflict and it fails |
02:07 |
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jcamins |
Create a new branch, and apply the patch from scratch? |
02:07 |
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libsysguy |
i can attempt that...one sec |
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02:09 |
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libsysguy |
i still get a conflict |
02:10 |
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libsysguy |
it happens with the updatedatabase.pl script |
02:10 |
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jcamins |
And you can't resolve it? |
02:10 |
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jcamins |
Oh, of course. |
02:10 |
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libsysguy |
is there something im missing? |
02:10 |
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jcamins |
Yes. You will *always* have a conflict in the updatedatabase.pl script. |
02:10 |
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libsysguy |
*smh* |
02:11 |
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jcamins |
You have to resolve it every time you rebase. |
02:11 |
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libsysguy |
aww man |
02:11 |
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libsysguy |
ok so...to resolve it...i don't see a .mine or HEAD |
02:11 |
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libsysguy |
so its not a content conflict |
02:11 |
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rangi |
git status |
02:11 |
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rangi |
check that it has conflict |
02:11 |
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rangi |
then edit the fille |
02:12 |
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rangi |
look for a line with |
02:12 |
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rangi |
<<<<<<< |
02:12 |
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libsysguy |
it doesn't look like its in conflict...i've got several untracked files |
02:13 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in AuthoritiesMarc.pm so it won't destroy... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9763737065635e68a> |
02:14 |
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libsysguy |
and there is no <<<<<< section in the update file |
02:14 |
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rangi |
oh, so its not a conflict then, just hte patch is not applying? |
02:14 |
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rangi |
whats the exact message you get when you apply it? |
02:14 |
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libsysguy |
error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl:4354 |
02:14 |
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libsysguy |
error: installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl: patch does not apply |
02:15 |
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libsysguy |
and some trailing whitespace warnings |
02:15 |
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rangi |
yeah, thats not a conflict, the patch is busted |
02:15 |
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libsysguy |
:'( |
02:15 |
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libsysguy |
my patch is busted |
02:15 |
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libsysguy |
so...is there anything i can do or am i totally done for? |
02:15 |
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rangi |
usually that happens when you formatted it against a commit that doesnt exist in the branch you are trying to apply it to |
02:15 |
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rangi |
is it attached to the bug? |
02:15 |
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libsysguy |
yes |
02:16 |
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rangi |
2 secs ill look |
02:16 |
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libsysguy |
thanks rangi |
02:16 |
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rangi |
first one, or second patch on that bug? |
02:16 |
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libsysguy |
both actaully |
02:17 |
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libsysguy |
first then second...sekjal told me the wrong way to do it instead of just amending it |
02:17 |
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libsysguy |
:'( |
02:17 |
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rangi |
will give it a try |
02:17 |
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libsysguy |
ok thanks |
02:19 |
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rangi |
first patch applies, gives me a conflict |
02:19 |
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rangi |
CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
02:19 |
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rangi |
how were you trying to apply it? |
02:19 |
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rangi |
git am -iu3 patchname |
02:19 |
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rangi |
? |
02:19 |
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libsysguy |
git bz apply 5079 |
02:20 |
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rangi |
yeah ok |
02:20 |
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libsysguy |
ok |
02:20 |
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rangi |
if htat fails |
02:20 |
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rangi |
you will notice it says something like |
02:20 |
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rangi |
Patch left in /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-location-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch |
02:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 353 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #351 1 j 1 h ago) |
02:20 |
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libsysguy |
yes i see that |
02:20 |
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rangi |
do a git am --abort |
02:20 |
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rangi |
the git am -iu3 /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-location-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch |
02:20 |
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libsysguy |
ok |
02:20 |
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rangi |
whatever the filename actually is |
02:20 |
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rangi |
-3 says try a 3 way merge |
02:22 |
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libsysguy |
ohh i see the content conflict now |
02:22 |
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rangi |
cool |
02:22 |
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rangi |
then you fix that, and try the next patch ;) |
02:22 |
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libsysguy |
sweet |
02:22 |
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libsysguy |
thanks rangi |
02:22 |
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libsysguy |
rangi++ |
02:22 |
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rangi |
np |
02:24 |
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libsysguy |
sweet it works...rangi...you the man |
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jcamins |
Argh! "Lugduni" is both Leiden and Lyons. |
03:03 |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
03:03 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #353: FIXED in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/353/ |
03:03 |
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jenkins_koha |
frederick.capovilla: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in AuthoritiesMarc.pm so it won't destroy the connection to the biblioserver. |
03:03 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5737 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , ZOOM connection problem in merge_authority.pl when trying to do a batch merge. |
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kmkale |
Namaskar #koha |
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03:31 |
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mtj |
heya kmkale |
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03:49 |
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new |
hello all |
03:49 |
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new |
i wouldlike to ask regarding koha 3.02.00 |
03:50 |
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new |
i've completed the installation |
03:50 |
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new |
and it all went well |
03:50 |
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new |
i import data using Z39.50 and the data inputted into reservoir |
03:51 |
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new |
but i canno search the record inputted |
03:51 |
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rangi |
3.2.0 ? why did you choose that? its quite old |
03:51 |
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rangi |
3.4.3 is the latest release .. 3.2.10 was the last release of the 3.2.x line |
03:51 |
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new |
my library just migrated the old v2 koha into 3.2 |
03:52 |
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new |
is 3.2.10 does no have this problem anymore? |
03:52 |
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rangi |
well there has been 10 bug fix releases since 3.2.0 .. and then 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.6 3.4.3 so its a about 9 months and lots of bug fixes behind current |
03:53 |
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rangi |
but what you are describing is not a bug |
03:53 |
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rangi |
the reserviour is not the catalogue |
03:53 |
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rangi |
you have to add the record into the catalogue, you did that? |
03:53 |
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new |
i do not know how |
03:53 |
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rangi |
and you have zebra running? and your cron job set up to build the indexes? |
03:53 |
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new |
would you help me? |
03:53 |
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rangi |
have you read the manual? |
03:53 |
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new |
yup |
03:54 |
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rangi |
it tells you how to add a record |
03:54 |
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rangi |
thats all i can tell you to do, the same as the manual says |
03:55 |
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new |
i did read the manual but it tells about importing records in bulk |
03:55 |
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new |
but i did not found any if i want to input one record at a time |
03:57 |
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rangi |
it does |
03:57 |
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rangi |
ill find the page |
03:57 |
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rangi |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]h=c8245#addbibrec |
03:59 |
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libsysguy |
I have a question about notices |
03:59 |
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new |
yes i did read that page |
03:59 |
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libsysguy |
is it true that you can only send 3 notices per overdue? |
04:00 |
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new |
but when i finished inputting it, when i search using opac it appears not results found |
04:00 |
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libsysguy |
new |
04:00 |
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libsysguy |
its probably not rebuilding zebra |
04:00 |
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libsysguy |
did you set up your cron to do that? |
04:00 |
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new |
yeah |
04:00 |
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libsysguy |
what is your rebuild rate set at? |
04:01 |
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libsysguy |
default is 10 mins i thing |
04:01 |
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libsysguy |
think* |
04:01 |
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new |
hold on i check |
04:01 |
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libsysguy |
so it would take 10 minutes for your item to show up |
04:01 |
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new |
lest than 3 seconds |
04:01 |
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new |
in fact i just want to try to add in only one new records |
04:02 |
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libsysguy |
well until that record is indexed it won't show up in the opac |
04:02 |
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new |
but the there were few fatal process, warn and etc |
04:02 |
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new |
would you show me how plz? |
04:02 |
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libsysguy |
try this: perl /path/to/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -reset |
04:03 |
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libsysguy |
this will reset and rebuild your entire zebra index |
04:03 |
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new |
ok i'll try |
04:03 |
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libsysguy |
ok |
04:04 |
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libsysguy |
btw rangi is right you should probably try using 3.4 |
04:05 |
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new |
it appears error "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" |
04:06 |
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new |
i really want to try 3.4 but my bos already ask the vendor to have 3.2 |
04:06 |
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libsysguy |
ok well that is probably the root of your issue |
04:06 |
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libsysguy |
did you say you upgraded? |
04:06 |
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new |
yeah from 2.2.9 to 3.2.0 |
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libsysguy |
did you dump your database then drop it before you upgraded? |
04:07 |
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new |
fyi i'm not using the older database |
04:07 |
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libsysguy |
ok that is what i was getting at |
04:07 |
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libsysguy |
lol |
04:07 |
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new |
the reason is i want to relearn about koha 3.2 |
04:08 |
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new |
it seems like i want to start from scratch |
04:08 |
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libsysguy |
i am curious why it is looking for the biblios table |
04:08 |
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libsysguy |
the table name is biblio |
04:08 |
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new |
is it in the mysql |
04:08 |
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new |
? |
04:08 |
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libsysguy |
yes |
04:09 |
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new |
i really not good at it |
04:09 |
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libsysguy |
if you log into mysql and do: show tables; |
04:09 |
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libsysguy |
you should see a table called biblio |
04:09 |
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libsysguy |
before you upgraded you dumped your database right? |
04:09 |
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new |
yeah |
04:10 |
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rangi |
thats a zebra error |
04:10 |
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rangi |
libsysguy |
04:10 |
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wahanui1 |
libsysguy is probably curious why it is looking for the biblios table |
04:10 |
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rangi |
not mysql |
04:10 |
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new |
oo i c |
04:10 |
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libsysguy |
yes i was rangi |
04:10 |
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new |
then what should i do to fix it? |
04:10 |
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libsysguy |
how did wahanui1 read my mind |
04:10 |
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rangi |
so the biblio/biblios thing is a red herring |
04:11 |
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rangi |
"Could not select database biblios errCode=109" is a zebra error |
04:11 |
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libsysguy |
ahh |
04:11 |
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libsysguy |
silly zebra |
04:11 |
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rangi |
well its not zebra |
04:11 |
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rangi |
ppl blame it, but its always actually us |
04:11 |
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libsysguy |
i think i'd like to continue blaming it...it seems to be easier that way lol |
04:11 |
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rangi |
id, talk to your vendor new, and say, is zebra indexing working |
04:12 |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
04:12 |
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rangi |
because from that error, it certainly doesnt look like it is |
04:12 |
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rangi |
and without that, search will never work right |
04:13 |
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new |
ok |
04:13 |
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new |
is there any way that i could learn this zebra ? |
04:13 |
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rangi |
yes, by lots of reading |
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libsysguy |
and magic |
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* rangi |
has to get back to work |
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libsysguy |
jk new |
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new |
lol :D |
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* libsysguy |
has to go to sleep |
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libsysguy |
its late here |
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new |
ok tq guys |
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new |
tq so much |
04:14 |
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libsysguy |
I'll talk to you guys later...good luck new |
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new |
tq libsysguy |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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kmkale |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi kmkale |
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cait |
eythian++ |
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eythian |
what'd I do? |
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cait |
comment again :) |
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eythian |
ah right :) |
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alex_away |
hello ! |
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cait |
hi alex_a |
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alex_a |
hi cait |
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cait |
bye |
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magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
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magnuse |
namaste kmkale |
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alex_a |
kia ora magnuse |
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magnuse |
bonjour alex_a |
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hi magnus |
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abdullatef |
Hi there |
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abdullatef |
can you help me? |
07:27 |
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abdullatef |
I have install the koha 3.4 on ubuntu |
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abdullatef |
ubuntu 11 |
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abdullatef |
previously I have problem with the zebra |
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abdullatef |
now I believed it is solve |
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magnuse |
so what's your problem, abdullatef? |
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abdullatef |
i want to confirm about the zebra |
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abdullatef |
is it really running or not |
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abdullatef |
when i run #ps ax|grep zebra |
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abdullatef |
i got this 1120 ? S 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha.koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 1121 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv - |
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abdullatef |
is my zebra running? |
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magnuse |
yeah, that looks promising |
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magnuse |
the best thing is probably to check that it actually works, though ;-) |
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magnuse |
add a record and search for it |
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abdullatef |
ok let see |
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abdullatef |
i have imported a record and try to search |
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abdullatef |
no result |
07:52 |
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rangi |
you have the cron job set up |
07:53 |
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rangi |
because without that, zebra wont update its indexes |
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abdullatef |
how to check that? |
07:54 |
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mtj |
abdullatef: look in yr 'zebraqueue' table |
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rangi |
have you set up the cron job? |
07:54 |
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rangi |
if you havent, it wont be set up :) |
07:54 |
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mtj |
$ select * from zebraqueue where done = 0; |
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abdullatef |
i'll try that |
07:56 |
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abdullatef |
the cron job first |
07:56 |
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rangi |
look in misc/cronjobs/ |
07:56 |
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rangi |
for a file crontab.example |
07:56 |
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mtj |
abdullatef: yes, rangi is right :) |
07:56 |
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rangi |
that will give you a hint how to do it |
07:57 |
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rangi |
make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra |
07:57 |
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rangi |
which is koha (according to your paste above) :) |
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abdullatef |
i see |
07:58 |
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abdullatef |
i just run # sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha |
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and i got a file with : |
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# Environment variables used by Koha scripts KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml KOHAPATH=/usr/share/koha PERL5LIB=$KOHAPATH/lib # The cronjobs 1 * * * *koha$KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null |
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rangi |
but formatted properly? |
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abdullatef |
not sure, i'll check the crontab.example |
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rangi |
that paste was all one line |
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rangi |
it should be multiple lines |
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rangi |
try pasting it into paste.koha-community.org |
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rangi |
and should end with one blank line |
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"abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "# sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1746 |
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rangi |
right try adding a newline at the end |
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rangi |
and then it should be all good |
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rangi |
and if you still cant find anything, then do like mtj suggested |
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rangi |
and look in hte db |
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rangi |
oh |
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rangi |
i see whats wrong |
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rangi |
1 * * * * |
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rangi |
thats only gonna run once an hour |
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rangi |
at 1 minute past the hour |
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rangi |
i would make that */5 * * * * |
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rangi |
so it runs every 5 minutes |
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abdullatef |
meaning that, the search can be run after 1 hour? |
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rangi |
try a search now actually |
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rangi |
the way you have it set up, yes, it will only reindex once an hour, at 1 min past the hour |
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rangi |
its now 20:08 nztime .. so in theory it should have run 7 mins ago |
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rangi |
so maybe your search is now working |
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abdullatef |
still no results found |
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abdullatef |
i'll change the 1**** |
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abdullatef |
to */5 * * * * |
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rangi |
and make sure the file contains a new line at the end, hit return a few times, it cant hurt :) |
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abdullatef |
:) |
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abdullatef |
hit return means? |
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rangi |
put some newlines at the end of the file |
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abdullatef |
oh, i'm sorry :) |
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rangi |
(at least one) |
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abdullatef |
return = enter :) |
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abdullatef |
rangi: make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra |
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wahanui1 |
i already had it that way, abdullatef. |
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abdullatef |
i have open the crontab.example |
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In the file a found: |
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rangi |
i dont think you need to look at the crontab.example your file in cron.d looked fine except for the 1 and no newline at the end |
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"abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "crontab.example" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1747 |
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rangi |
yep, you would have to put that in the koha users crontab |
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rangi |
your one you pasted before is fine, except for the 1, and no newline at the end of the file |
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abdullatef |
is it same $KOHAPATH with $KOHA_CRON_PATH ? |
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rangi |
assuming /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl exists |
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rangi |
do a ls on that |
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abdullatef |
ok |
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abdullatef |
where is this usr located? |
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abdullatef |
i'll paste the ls |
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"abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "ls" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1748 |
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rangi |
type |
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rangi |
ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl |
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"abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1749 |
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mtj |
hey... rangi is just being helpful for the ChoreWorz XP ! :/ |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
abdullatef: ok then, so thats fine |
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rangi |
did you change to */5 |
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rangi |
and put a newline at the end |
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* mtj |
looks for some gold to mine.... |
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"abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "*/5 * * * *" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1750 |
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abdullatef |
yes |
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rangi |
right, try looking in the db now, in the zebraqueue table |
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rangi |
and then ill have to go |
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abdullatef |
ok thanks |
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abdullatef |
me too, i need to go |
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abdullatef |
are the chat being saved anywhere? |
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rangi |
yes |
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rangi |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/ |
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abdullatef |
thanks |
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mtj |
right, go get that xp, rangi |
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abdullatef |
i really appreciate your help |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
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abdullatef |
Bye for now |
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kf |
have to go to - to the train station and we have rain, thunder and lightning outside :( |
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kf |
@karma kf |
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huginn` |
kf: Karma for "kf" has been increased 67 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 67. |
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kf |
hm, no bad karma |
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mtj |
kf: wear 2 hoods for heavy rain :) |
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kf |
2 hoods? |
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mtj |
1 jumper with hood + 1 jacket with hood |
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kf |
ah |
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mtj |
hood = Haube? |
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kf |
Kapuze :) |
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kf |
but haube is not wrong, only not quite right for a jumper |
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kf |
or a jacket |
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mtj |
ahh, haube is like a bonnet |
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kf |
haube makes me think of something a woman in medievil times would wear |
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magnuse |
have a safe journey, kf! |
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kf |
thx magnuse |
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kf |
I have an hour before I have to leave |
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kf |
playing with the test installation now, making sure all examples work :) |
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magnuse |
good idea! ;-) |
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kf |
hm |
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kf |
the zebra striping in a lot of tables seems to be broken in 3.4.3 |
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magnuse |
kf: do you have an uptodate version of TT? |
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kf |
not sure |
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kf |
butI would think so |
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kf |
hm |
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magnuse |
are you missing the striping on search results? |
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kf |
yes |
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kf |
Template is 2.20 |
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magnuse |
on ubuntu or debian? |
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kf |
ubuntu |
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kf |
lts version |
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magnuse |
i think i had a situation where the stripes were missing when i had the apt-get-able version of TT, and then i cpan'ed it and got the stripes back |
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kf |
ok |
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magnuse |
my production server has tt 2.22 |
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kf |
I think for the presentation it will be ok |
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kf |
weather-- |
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magnuse |
\o |
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druthb |
Hi magnuse! |
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kf |
hi druthb |
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kf |
and bye #koha |
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rangi |
paul_p: you have changed the author on 4415 |
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rangi |
im going to change it back to srdjan if you have no objections |
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paul_p |
yikes ! I made that probably when/by adding "Nicole signed off" manually... |
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paul_p |
no objection, of course ! |
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* druthb |
waves to rangi and paul_p |
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rangi |
cool, fixed and pushed |
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rangi |
hi druthb |
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paul_p |
hi druthb |
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rangi |
there are hundred of libraries on 2.2 still paul |
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rangi |
all around the world |
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rangi |
i know of a lot in pakistan and the philipines |
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rangi |
plus there are all the windows users |
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* druthb |
shudders |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be manag... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b1eeb8e6dce2742f8> |
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* magnuse |
too |
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magnuse |
let's hope strawberry perl can help them move to 3.x |
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rangi |
id rather they move to linux, but either way, they will need to migrate |
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magnuse |
ah yes, of course |
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magnuse |
linux ftw! but it sounded like that might not be too much of an option in e.g. pakistan, strange as that might seem |
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rangi |
oh nope we are getting there |
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rangi |
i got an email from farasat |
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rangi |
he has koha running under linux now |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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magnuse |
that's excellent news! |
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rangi |
yup, i have to reply and help him with one issue he has |
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rangi |
but it is good news |
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magnuse |
woohoo |
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sekjal_mobile |
haha! victory! |
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Starting build 354 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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* magnuse |
looks quizzically at sekjal_mobile |
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rangi |
connected via tor |
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magnuse |
ah |
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druthb |
o/ |
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Project Koha_master build #354: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/354/ |
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srdjan: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be managed separately |
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Agent_Dani |
Heya druthb! |
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druthb |
hi, Agent_Dani! :) |
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jwagner |
paul_p, online? |
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paul_p |
yep (back from lunch just a few minuts ago) |
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jwagner |
Couple of questions for you or anyone else (thought you might know the answers, though). First, is there a conversion tool to go from UNIMARC to MARC21 records? I seem to remember there is. |
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paul_p |
jwagner, there is a XSLT at loc.gov iirc |
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jwagner |
for display? Or actual conversion? |
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paul_p |
I think for actual conversion |
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paul_p |
(but i haven't tested it, so I don't guarantee !) |
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jwagner |
OK, I'll take a look there. Second is from one of my French Canadian sites -- is there a MS Windows plugin or popup for Windows XP to let you type diacritics? They're having problems with original cataloging |
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jwagner |
I'm told in Windows 7 there is a popup alternative keyboard for languages, but I don't know about XP |
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paul_p |
well, jwagner = french keyboards already have diacritict, plus remember, i'm an OpenSource man, so no windows here ;-) |
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jwagner |
Oh well. Anyone else? |
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paul_p |
(my last MS-windows was windows 98. Really) |
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paul_p |
not that I know (and french keyboards have diacritics, so I don't know anyone using a tool for that) |
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jwagner |
OK, will keep looking. Thanks. |
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Oak |
hello #koha |
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druthb |
hi Oak. |
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Oak |
hello druthb :) |
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magnus_lunch |
jwagner: seen bug 6536? "The conversion from UNIMARC to MARC21 currently only supports the most important MARC fields and should gradually be extended to cover remaining fields" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Z3950_RFC |
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wahanui1 |
I haven't seen 'bug', magnus_lunch |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing |
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* magnus_lunch |
wanders off again |
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jwagner |
no, hadn't gotten there yet -- thanks magnus. Thought I remembered something somewhere.... |
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brb |
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hi #koha |
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jwagner |
paul_p, re my earlier question about alternative keyboards, this link got something working in Win XP -- FYI. http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/[…]inputoptions.html |
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magnuse |
jwagner: this is perhaps not what you are thinking about? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]C_screen_keyboard |
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jwagner |
no, but it's interesting. Thanks! |
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np |
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libsysguy |
morning #Koha |
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druthb |
hi, libsysguy! |
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libsysguy |
druthb i saw where you were concerned about my poor data yesterday |
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druthb |
your poor abused data... |
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libsysguy |
i did abuse my data yesterday |
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libsysguy |
i had to delete my master branch and move it to a new one |
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druthb |
ugh |
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libsysguy |
i know...sirsi wouldn't let me just change the branch in there |
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libsysguy |
:-\ |
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libsysguy |
i guess i should rephrase that...i didn't know how and neither did margo |
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so i just changed in in koha |
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yup..i frequently tell libraries *don't* do a bunch of cleanup and this and that in your current system--let me do it with mappings. |
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there was some problem we were having with using a map |
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but i forgot what it was |
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i think it was patrons and bills |
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libsysguy |
maybe |
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tcohen |
importing holdings is the same as of 3.0.x ? The wiki seems incomplete on that (even 3.2 section is to be completed) |
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magnuse |
tcohen: what wiki page are you looking at? |
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tcohen |
magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
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magnuse |
guten tag cait |
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cait |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
tcohen: i don't think there were any changes from 3.0 to 3.2 |
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tcohen |
and from 3.2 to 3.4 ? |
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magnuse |
not any big changes there either |
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i use the table for 3.0 as my reference |
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as items where removed from marcxml/marc we should perhaps make explicit |
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tcohen |
that as of bulkmarcimport everything is as it used to |
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tcohen |
t oavoid confusion |
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magnuse |
yeah, that would be a good idea |
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paul_p: ufff |
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paul_p |
tcohen, ? |
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tcohen |
paul_p: i'll try to steal some time from my bosses to rebase that code |
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paul_p |
tcohen, if you prefer, I suggest you wait a little bit to rebase = there are many patches waiting QA that will have an updatedatabase. So you may have to do it more than once ! |
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* cait |
waves |
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paul_p |
hi cait |
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cait |
internet_connection_on_trains-- |
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cait |
hi paul_p |
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cait |
:) |
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paul_p |
cait = do you remember that less than 10 years ago having internet "everywhere" was even not a dream ! |
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cait |
I know |
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cait |
I should be happy that I have a connection |
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tcohen |
paul_p: ok, remember that latest patches apply to new/enh/bug_5166 |
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cait |
... |
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tcohen |
and that branch should be rebased to master |
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paul_p |
mmm... tcohen maybe it's worth a comment on the patch, I missed that ! |
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paul_p |
s/comment on the patch/comment on the bug/ |
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tcohen |
but as this patches need to be rebased for sure, and thus need to be signedoff again maybe i'll rebase against master... |
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http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-08-02 |
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magnuse |
oleonard: rda springs to mind... ;-) |
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paul_p: Thanks for the kohastructure.sql correction |
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your welcome |
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miguel |
Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode - España |
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slef |
miguel: No-uno es aquà |
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slef |
that's wrong translation of no-one :-/ |
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slef |
too literal |
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miguel |
no hay nadie |
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#startmeeting Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting |
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Meeting started Wed Aug 3 15:12:20 2011 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
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tcohen |
#info Tomas Cohen Arazi, UNC, Cordoba, Argentina |
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miguel |
#info Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode, España |
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tcohen |
alguien mas por ahi? hilongo? |
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slef |
#info MJ Ray, software.coop, Somerset, England |
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tcohen |
bueno, me parece que somos pocos, no se que conviene que hagamos |
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jati |
#info Juan Romay (Xercode) |
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tcohen |
#topic Spanish speaking community mail list administration / move to official FQDN |
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Topic for #koha is now Spanish speaking community mail list administration / move to official FQDN (Meeting topic: Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting) |
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slef |
te hiero con malespañol |
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tcohen |
No tenemos quorum me parece |
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slef |
quorum = ? |
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paul_p |
oleonard, if you have a few minuts, pls look at 5436, there's a comment/checking I'd like you to do. Thanks |
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slef: it's latin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorum |
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tcohen |
I think we don't hace enough attendees |
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to make a desition |
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tcohen |
on moving the koha-es list to the koha-community.org domain and maintenance |
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slef |
tcohen: si, quanto? |
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tcohen |
3 es poco me parece |
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tcohen |
is there a hastag for abort meeting? |
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slef |
try #info ABORTED then #endmeeting |
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or #info followed by your reason, then endmeeting |
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slef |
http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ha-td3264811.html |
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tcohen |
#info interested parties could not attend |
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#info meeting postponed |
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#endmeeting |
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huginn` |
Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-08-03-15.12.html |
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Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-08-03-15.12.txt |
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Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]03-15.12.log.html |
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pabloab |
:/ late, but I was present.. |
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slef |
pabloab: better luck next time |
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cait |
ks |
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cait |
what I really wanted to type was: Is the meeting over? |
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tcohen |
cait: yes |
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ok |
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oleonard |
paul_p: Shouldn't Bug 5436 not pass QA until the updatedatabase change is made? |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements |
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paul_p |
oleonard, usually, chris take care of this when applying the patch to master, because the final number depends on the order of applying patches. |
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paul_p |
For some other patches, i've added a small commit to propose a version number, but it will be chris that decide/pick the right number |
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paul_p |
this is a limit of the version numbering we have (and it's a pain, definetly, but I don't have another proposition at hand... probably something to investigate for 4.0...) |
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oleonard |
Maybe I just don't understand how atomicupdate is used? I thought one must change updatedatabase.pl but put in XX for the version number. |
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paul_p |
atomicupdate is anotherway to update the database, you just link the atomic update to the updatedatabase.pl at final merge. |
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paul_p |
it's handy to avoid git am conflicts because your updatedatabase was done after 017 and when it's tested, we are already at 024. In this case, even a XXX will result in a conflict |
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paul_p |
(as it detects it should be after 017, and see something's wrong) |
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paul_p |
I agree we should have a more formal/documented/unique way to submit DB update though ! |
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libsysguy |
^^ |
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oleonard |
paul_p: I'm not complaining about the process, I just wasn't aware of this option. We need better documentation of our process, but no one has offered a better suggestion for changing the procedure. |
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tcohen |
oleonard++ |
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paul_p |
(this option is rarely used, that's why I specify it for chris/ian, to avoid a mistake) |
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paul_p |
tcohen, you can use this atomicupdate for your patch if you want too ! could avoid having conflicts later. |
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tcohen |
paul_p: exactly! |
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paul_p |
(but pls: also explain on the bug how to apply all patches, or squash them (git rebase -i if you don't know how to squash) |
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oleonard |
squashing++ |
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tcohen |
i'll squash them |
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paul_p |
sometimes a follow-up is better, sometimes, it becomes a nightmare to check and squashing is better |
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tcohen |
the problem with that bug is that there are patches against master |
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tcohen |
and against the topic branch |
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i don't know how is that handled |
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paul_p: out of curiosity, is the type of evaluation that qsos.org of any relevance in France (asking because they see to be primarily a French site, albeit with lots of English translations) |
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oleonard |
An elusive gmcharlt appears. |
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* jwagner |
gets out the butterfly net |
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paul_p |
gmcharlt, I never heard of qsos before now. Although, i've heard rumors of websites like this one (maybe this one) at a conference last year. So it've in the radar of some ppl, but not widely spread yet afaik |
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gmcharlt |
http://www.qsos.org/?p=137 is why I'm asking, although obviously that particularly evaluation is a bit ... old |
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paul_p |
http://www.qsos.org/?page_id=4 => 23 October 2006 |
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paul_p |
Listes de évaluations disponibles |
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paul_p |
Liste des templates d’évaluations disponibles |
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paul_p |
quite old too... |
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paul_p |
I may have seen this sheet already. Something in my brain says that. But it was a long time ago... |
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OK, it's time to leave for me ! busy but useful day. Now ... going to the beach (lucky man I am, I know ;-) ) |
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piware |
Goodbye |
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tcohen |
r u away already? |
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hi #koha |
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New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5166] Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166> |
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oleonard |
I wonder if we need another patch status for "seeking information." |
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oleonard |
For instance, Bug 6124 has a good question in the comments, but no response. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6124 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , In transferstoreceive.pl some biblios are empty. |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
would not be as hard as failed qa |
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cait |
needs feedback perhaps? |
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oleonard |
That's nicely concise |
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cait |
and a bit shorter in the pull down |
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bg |
hey cait - Quick question - were librarians able to search for patrons via email address before? |
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bg |
never mind got the answer - I think it was stripped |
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oleonard |
bg: Before what? |
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bg |
3.4 I guess |
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bg |
I can't search via email right now - and I only tried on a 3.4 box |
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cait |
bg - i don't know it |
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oleonard |
We wrote a custom PHP script for that because we wished we had it |
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bg |
it's all good |
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cait |
what I miss is sending an empty search to get all borrowers |
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cait |
oleonard: I think you could do it nicely with a custom report and runtime parameter now |
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oleonard |
Not ideal. |
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cait |
not sure what you want it to do exactly - ideal would be a possibility to filter/search an all fields :) |
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oleonard |
Yeah, that's what I want. A patron advanced search interface. |
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* cait |
nods |
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* oleonard |
has found wishing for it to be ineffective for several years now |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
programmig it would be an alternatie |
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cait |
but lots of things to think about |
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rhcl_away |
@seen snowman |
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rhcl_away: I have not seen snowman. |
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OK, well, if you do, give me a heads up. |
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libsysguy |
so I deleted a branch that had all my bibs/patrons attached to it after i moved them to a new branch and now when i do a search i just get a * fror libraries that links to the deleted branch |
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libsysguy |
did i mess something up |
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jcamins_away |
cait1: around? |
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cait1 |
I hope |
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jcamins |
:) |
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cait1 |
but I don't trust the internet connection |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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druthb |
hi, jcamins! |
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jcamins |
Hi, druthb! |
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jcamins |
Still enjoying Bird-in-Hand? |
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druthb |
love it. |
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libsysguy |
bird in hand? |
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cait1 |
was going to ask that too |
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libsysguy |
cait1 and I are curious campers lol |
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druthb |
adjacent to the campground is a farm...all day yesterday, we watched a very serious-looking bearded man working--he had some ancient gasoline-powered implement on a wagon-like contraption, being pulled by two horses. |
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druthb |
libsysguy: my daughter and I are camping near Bird-In-Hand, PA. |
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druthb |
In the Amish country |
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libsysguy |
OHHHH!!! |
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libsysguy |
well that makes more sense than a bearded man |
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jcamins |
It's an absolutely beautiful area. |
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libsysguy |
does anybody know how to import authorities |
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libsysguy |
or is there a wiki on it |
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libsysguy |
i didn't even look |
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druthb |
it is. When the Amish and Mennonite people settled here, they felt that God had given them the Perfect Place for their work and lifestyle--and I'm inclined to agree with them on that. It's great land here. |
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cait1 |
libsysguy: same way you import biblios (from commandline) using -a |
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libsysguy |
ohh |
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* libsysguy |
is retarded |
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cait1 |
check the ---h for bulkmarcimport :) |
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druthb |
cait++ |
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libsysguy |
cait1++ |
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druthb |
libsysguy++ #smart enough to ask questions! |
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cait1 |
xp! |
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* jcamins |
thinks about warning libsysguy about the fact that the authorities may not do what he's expecting, and then stops before he disheartens the poor fellow. |
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jcamins |
Do you want Jared's Standard Disclaimer Regarding LCSH-style Authorities in Koha (TM)? |
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* libsysguy |
wonders why jcamins is always bringing him down |
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libsysguy |
just like the man lol |
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libsysguy |
umm sure |
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rangi |
morning |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: I do it for everyone, not just you. |
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jcamins |
;) |
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druthb |
hi rangi |
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libsysguy |
haha jcamins hi rangi |
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cait1 |
You level up! You are now a Level 3 Enchanter! |
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cait1 |
haha |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: basically, the point where you're going to run into problems is that your authorities are not going to be linked in any way to your bib records, and the link_authorities_to_biblios script doesn't work. |
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libsysguy |
how ironic |
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cait1 |
hi rangi |
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libsysguy |
well...i think our authorities are all out of date anyway |
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libsysguy |
from what i understand |
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libsysguy |
(and i have no idea what authorities are...i just know it costs a lot of money to get them done) |
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jcamins |
So the authorities can be used to ensure that a heading has already been authorized when cataloging, but they will not really provide a usable access point into the catalog. |
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libsysguy |
gotcha |
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cait1 |
hm |
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libsysguy |
ill pass that along |
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cait1 |
you could migrate an old authorities number from your current system |
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jcamins |
At least for right now. |
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jcamins |
cait1: but that only helps if the authority numbers are embedded in the bib records. |
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cait1 |
right |
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* libsysguy |
feels like there is about to be librarian talk about to happen |
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cait1 |
and you are right about the access point |
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cait1 |
would be great if we could get that working |
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jcamins |
cait1: I agree. |
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cait1 |
would dom help that problem? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
There would also need to be a display customization, but indexing that doesn't make one weep is a good first step. |
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jcamins |
I think ByWater is working on adding authority searching in the OPAC. "Did you mean 'Smith, John, 1900-1981'?" |
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cait1 |
hm yes |
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* libsysguy |
has to run |
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cait1 |
what I would like to see is aphabetic registers and a way to find a title searching for one form of the name that was written under a pseudonym/other name form |
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jcamins |
Can I get xp for scaring someone off of IRC? :\ |
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cait1 |
I fear not |
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cait1 |
but you helped me |
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jcamins |
Aww. Darn. |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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jcamins |
Wait, I did? |
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cait1 |
sure |
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cait1 |
I have t send more patches, I want a chocolate fish |
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rangi |
how did the presentation go? |
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cait1 |
it's tomorro |
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cait1 |
w |
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cait1 |
took half a day to get here - 6hours on train |
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rangi |
ahhh |
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* rangi |
is doing rfp again today :( |
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bg |
NateC? |
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wahanui1 |
I LIKE SPACE! |
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* cait1 |
sends rangi cookies |
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druthb |
talljoy? |
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wahanui1 |
I CRUNCH DATA |
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NateC |
rangi: I feel you pain man |
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cait1 |
druthb? |
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druthb |
muhahaha |
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cait1 |
hm |
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cait1 |
poor wahanui... he got geblitzdingst |
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rangi |
RFP : you're doing it wrong! !!! |
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druthb |
geblitzdingst? |
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jcamins |
jcamins? |
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wahanui1 |
you are supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications |
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druthb |
mercy |
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cait1 |
flashy-thinged |
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cait1 |
(mib) |
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rangi |
bg? |
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wahanui1 |
I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
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cait1 |
rangi? |
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wahanui1 |
I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
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druthb |
lol |
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NateC |
rangi: yep, RFP = Really Fu@%ed Paper |
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druthb |
back in a few.... |
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druthb is now known as druthb_away |
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rangi |
my stop bbiab |
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rangi |
back |
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rangi |
and before i forget |
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rangi |
a plug for one of the projects one of the catalyst staff works on |
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rangi |
http://openra.res0l.net/ |
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cait1 |
a plug? |
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jcamins |
A plug? |
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jcamins |
A plug! |
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jcamins |
A plug! |
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rangi |
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/plug |
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jcamins |
Everybody ought to have a plug... |
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rhcl_away |
it's a thing to catch fish with |
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rhcl_away |
a fishing lure |
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* jcamins |
gives up. |
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rangi |
hmm that doesnt have the meaning thats used here |
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rangi |
to plug something can be used to mean, to advertise |
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rangi |
n. |
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rangi |
a free advertisement or a commercial boost from someone for a product. (See also plugola.) : I managed to get a plug on the Mike Michael show. |
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rangi |
tv. |
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rangi |
to give an advertisement or commercial boost for something without having to pay for it. : I want to get on that TV program and plug my new book. |
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rangi |
:) |
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rhcl_away |
http://farm3.static.flickr.com[…]80_437b19a40f.jpg |
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cait1 |
that thing looks mean |
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rhcl_away |
yea, probably scared the fish away rather than caught them |
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rhcl_away |
we're surrounded by a power outage, although we still have el-. http://www.kcpl.com/kcmaps/frameset_menus.htm Should I close down all the computers, do you think? And go home? |
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rangi |
so |
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cait1 |
so? |
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wahanui1 |
so is, like, there an expirationdate and an expiredate |
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rangi |
i have a bunch of post graduate level students in australia, what things could they help out with in koha |
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jcamins |
What are they studying? |
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rhcl_away |
abstract the db |
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rangi |
lis |
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rhcl_away |
oh, disregard |
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cait1 |
hm |
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rangi |
http://katedavis.info/ <-- her students |
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cait1 |
documentation? |
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wahanui1 |
documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
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cait1 |
usability testing? |
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rangi |
oh thats a good idea |
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cait1 |
ideas for new innovative features? |
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cait1 |
test plans? |
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rangi |
cool that gives me ideas thanks |
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cait1 |
k |
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cait1 |
can I get xp now? |
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* cait1 |
hides |
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rhcl_away |
We hired a new bookstore manager two days ago, and the Friends bought her a nice new 17" notebook computer w/ Win 7. I worked and worked trying to get the D&# thing connected to the wireless network.... |
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rhcl_away |
finally gave up and installed Linux Mint 11. |
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rhcl_away |
It works. |
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cait1 |
hehe |
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libsysguy |
rangi: what is the link to your blog |
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libsysguy |
I thought i saw something on there the other day about serials in 3.6 |
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rangi |
blog.bigballofwax.co.nz |
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cait1 |
serials in 3.6? |
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rangi |
i dont think i wrote anything about that |
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jcamins |
Aww. |
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libsysguy |
so no serials work :'( |
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cait1 |
we already have serials? |
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cait1 |
what are you missing? |
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libsysguy |
holdings? |
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cait1 |
and don't look so sad... |
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cait1 |
holdings? |
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libsysguy |
im just going off an email I got from our acquisitions librarian |
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* libsysguy |
is about to enter a discussion I don't know much about |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: as far as I know, MFHD has not been sponsored by anyone. |
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libsysguy |
MFHD? |
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wahanui1 |
somebody said MFHD was MARC Format for Holdings Data |
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libsysguy |
ohh |
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cait1 |
wahanui1 botsnack cookie |
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wahanui1 |
thanks cait1 :) |
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jcamins |
That's what your acquisitions librarian wants. |
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libsysguy |
gotcha |
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libsysguy |
is anybody using ldap auth on master? |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: a bunch of people are. sekjal would be able to tell you about it. |
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libsysguy |
well i just wanted to see if anybody else was getting an error |
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jcamins |
I don't know anything about it, sorry. |
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libsysguy |
its cool jcamins...ill stalk sekjal |
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rhcl_away |
libsysguy, did you resolve your exproxy questions? |
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* libsysguy |
tries to remember ezproxy questions |
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libsysguy |
was it perhaps getting ezproxy to work with shib |
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rhcl_away |
yea, shibboleth related, late last week |
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libsysguy |
yes i did...kind of...turns out our university doesn't use shib as an SSO...silly i know |
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* Agent_Dani |
fondly remembers ezproxy. |
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jcamins |
"Fondly"? |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]852f48ba5b5bc2bb7> / 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e19905e8f1cf34a5e> / Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing... <http:// |
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rangi |
libsysguy: ive got a new one for ya |
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rangi |
http://soundcloud.com/oopartmusic/chad-vader |
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libsysguy |
rangi you have a true programmers taste in music |
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* libsysguy |
approves |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 355 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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rangi |
who cant approve of using darth vaders voice for your incar navigation |
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Agent_Dani |
jcamins: It was fairly trouble-free in my experience, far more so than a lot of other software I was dealing with in that job. |
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jcamins |
Go figure. |
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libsysguy |
well heck...its got ez right in the name |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: so does fez, and have you ever seen anyone pull off one of those with panache? |
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libsysguy |
touche` jcamins |
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libsysguy |
hey jcamins...do you think you could take a peed at this for me http://i.imgur.com/T3uC3.png |
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libsysguy |
this is what the serials librarian sent me |
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rangi |
ah they just want a bunch of display changes |
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libsysguy |
is that it? |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
its all template changes |
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libsysguy |
cool...css and js ftw |
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libsysguy |
i just wanted to verify that is all it was |
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rangi |
well that analytics one, could be that there isnt a link .. but the rest is all display |
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jcamins |
UT Tyler doesn't use analytics, so you can just hide it. |
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rangi |
easy peasy |
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libsysguy |
sweet |
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libsysguy |
nothing new |
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Agent_Dani |
libsysguy: Heh! The "ez" claim worried me at first, but compared to dealing with a lot of the stuff from HP, Oracle, etc... |
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libsysguy |
there is nothing ever eazy from Oracle |
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* libsysguy |
hates Oracle |
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libsysguy |
**for what they did to JAVA |
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rangi |
and solaris |
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rangi |
and mysql |
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rangi |
and openoffice |
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Agent_Dani |
I can't say I'm a fan either. A part of my motivation for leaving that job was that I was basically becoming the dump-on person for Oracle DBA tasks that the DBAs didn't want to do. |
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rangi |
and basic human decency |
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chilts |
hmmm ... and for doing Oracle too! |
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rangi |
oh yeah and oracle |
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chilts |
:) |
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rangi |
what a sack of crap that is |
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rangi |
oh look its crashed again |
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chilts |
indeed, glad I don't touch it these days |
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libsysguy |
ESPECIALLY Oracle |
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Agent_Dani |
I only deal with stuff that connects to Oracle DBs; I don't have to actually deal with the DB anymore. |
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mtj |
i have a good friend working at oracle-nz |
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chilts |
my friend used to work for acompany that got taken over by Oracle ... first thing they did was give them pay rises |
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chilts |
2nd thing they did was forced them to use their crappy internal tools |
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chilts |
I figure it was a giving with one hand and a taking with the other |
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mtj |
it sounds like epic wtf's on a daily basis there :/ |
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Agent_Dani |
libsysguy: I will admit that after the early work in '99-early 2000, my involvement with ezproxy was systems side. I no longer dealt with configuring databases within it. |
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libsysguy |
ahh...well all i deal with is setting it up on the system |
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mtj |
afaik, all phbs at oracle are either playing golf, or updating their facebook |
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libsysguy |
sounds about right mjt |
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Agent_Dani |
The worst task I had to do with it was setup auth with DRA Web2, which was available in a then-brand-spanking-new beta release of EZP. |
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mtj |
chilts: 3rd thing was force staff to sign 'all-your-work-belong-to-us' NDAs - til the staff complained |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5602: Changes to account for the version update. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c2293b3bf062f4152> / bug 5602: Rewriting the package making script Now it is a perl script. Various pdebui... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e3e8c9d7a51835ce> / Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= |
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chilts |
mtj: heh, yeah, that's probably it |
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rangi |
chilts: wheres that place you can get a desk for a day? |
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chilts |
there are two in Welly ... |
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* chilts |
looks |
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chilts |
http://bizdojo.com/ and ... |
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* chilts |
is still looking |
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chilts |
http://www.altspace.co.nz/ |
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chilts |
phew, found it |
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chilts |
I think you can have them for a day but as part of a 4 or 5 days a month contract |
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chilts |
so I don't think you can just turn up - I asked BizDojo about that but they didn't get back to me |
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rangi |
ahh right |
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rangi |
wasnt there somewhere you were going occasionally? |
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chilts |
heh, the library :) |
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chilts |
but no, I was _thinking_ about BozDojo but it's quite expensive I feel |
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chilts |
esp. since I've got mobile broadband |
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rangi |
hmm some company |
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rangi |
i remember you telling me at miyabi |
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chilts |
ah ... you're thinking of Jelly at ... |
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chilts |
erm |
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rangi |
thats it |
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chilts |
Boost |
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chilts |
http://www.boost.co.nz/blog/de[…]working-for-free/ |
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rangi |
ta |
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chilts |
np |
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chilts |
it's not really a desk, more like a couch, coffee and wifi |
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chilts |
though there are a few tables you can sit at |
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mtj |
oooh, boost++ |
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chilts |
mason have you been before? I went a few times but found it didn't have that much atmosphere |
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mtj |
no, me never... |
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mtj |
i aint fussy tho, re: atmosfere |
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mtj |
i often were big headfones so i dont get distracted, so less is often better for me |
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chilts |
I need to bring my headphones in to my current work |
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mtj |
... listening to soothing whale/dolphin muzak, while i werk |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #355: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/355/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* m.de.rooy: Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket) |
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jenkins_koha |
* m.de.rooy: 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bumping database version |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4959 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. |
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mtj |
i'm finishing off the lorien barcode thing |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 356 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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mtj |
oops, wrong window.. :/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 26 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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bg |
it feels hot here |
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bg |
@wunder 93109 |
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huginn` |
bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.4�C (3:53 PM PDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). |
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bg |
yup 72 |
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bg |
*sigh* |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 22.0�C (6:55 PM EDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady). |
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jcamins |
\o/ |
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jcamins |
It's less hot here, in August, than in Santa Barbara. |
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jcamins |
Unfortunately, it's pouring, and there is heat radiating off the walls. |
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jcamins |
(so I can't really enjoy it) |
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