Time  Nick           Message
23:02 jcamins        (so I can't really enjoy it)
23:01 jcamins        Unfortunately, it's pouring, and there is heat radiating off the walls.
23:00 jcamins        It's less hot here, in August, than in Santa Barbara.
23:00 jcamins        \o/
23:00 huginn`        jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 22.0�C (6:55 PM EDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady).
22:59 jcamins        @wunder 11375
22:55 rangi          heh
22:55 bg             *sigh*
22:55 bg             yup 72
22:54 huginn`        bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.4�C (3:53 PM PDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady).
22:54 bg             @wunder 93109
22:54 bg             it feels hot here
22:50 jenkins_koha   Starting build 26 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:49 mtj            oops, wrong window.. :/
22:49 jenkins_koha   Starting build 356 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:48 mtj            i'm finishing off the lorien barcode thing
22:48 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4959 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket.
22:48 jenkins_koha   * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
22:48 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket.
22:48 jenkins_koha   * m.de.rooy: Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket)
22:48 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #355: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/355/
22:47 mtj            ... listening to soothing whale/dolphin muzak, while i werk
22:47 chilts         I need to bring my headphones in to my current work
22:46 mtj            i often were big headfones so i dont get distracted, so less is often better for me
22:45 mtj            i aint fussy tho, re: atmosfere
22:45 mtj            no, me never...
22:45 chilts         mason have you been before? I went a few times but found it didn't have that much atmosphere
22:44 mtj            oooh, boost++
22:40 chilts         though there are a few tables you can sit at
22:40 chilts         it's not really a desk, more like a couch, coffee and wifi
22:40 chilts         np
22:40 rangi          ta
22:40 chilts         http://www.boost.co.nz/blog/design/jelly-at-boost-friday-co-working-for-free/
22:40 chilts         Boost
22:39 rangi          thats it
22:39 chilts         erm
22:39 chilts         ah ... you're thinking of Jelly at ...
22:39 rangi          i remember you telling me at miyabi
22:39 rangi          hmm some company
22:39 chilts         esp. since I've got mobile broadband
22:39 chilts         but no, I was _thinking_ about BozDojo but it's quite expensive I feel
22:38 chilts         heh, the library :)
22:38 rangi          wasnt there somewhere you were going occasionally?
22:38 rangi          ahh right
22:38 chilts         so I don't think you can just turn up - I asked BizDojo about that but they didn't get back to me
22:38 chilts         I think you can have them for a day but as part of a 4 or 5 days a month contract
22:37 chilts         phew, found it
22:37 chilts         http://www.altspace.co.nz/
22:33 * chilts       is still looking
22:33 chilts         http://bizdojo.com/ and ...
22:32 * chilts       looks
22:32 chilts         there are two in Welly ...
22:32 rangi          chilts: wheres that place you can get a desk for a day?
22:30 chilts         mtj: heh, yeah, that's probably it
22:30 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5602: Changes to account for the version update. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e07fc1099a34215ab8277cc2293b3bf062f4152> / bug 5602: Rewriting the package making script Now it is a perl script. Various pdebui... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc819ec93c9de75a7d8eaa99e3e8c9d7a51835ce> / Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
22:29 mtj            chilts: 3rd thing was force staff to sign 'all-your-work-belong-to-us' NDAs - til the staff complained
22:28 Agent_Dani     The worst task I had to do with it was setup auth with DRA Web2, which was available in a then-brand-spanking-new beta release of EZP.
22:27 libsysguy      sounds about right mjt
22:27 mtj            afaik, all phbs at oracle are either playing golf, or updating their facebook
22:26 libsysguy      ahh...well all i deal with is setting it up on the system
22:25 Agent_Dani     libsysguy: I will admit that after the early work in '99-early 2000, my involvement with ezproxy was systems side. I no longer dealt with configuring databases within it.
22:25 mtj            it sounds like epic wtf's on a daily basis there :/
22:25 chilts         I figure it was a giving with one hand and a taking with the other
22:24 chilts         2nd thing they did was forced them to use their crappy internal tools
22:24 chilts         my friend used to work for acompany that got taken over by Oracle ... first thing they did was give them pay rises
22:23 mtj            i have a good friend working at oracle-nz
22:23 Agent_Dani     I only deal with stuff that connects to Oracle DBs; I don't have to actually deal with the DB anymore.
22:23 libsysguy      ESPECIALLY Oracle
22:23 chilts         indeed, glad I don't touch it these days
22:22 rangi          oh look its crashed again
22:22 rangi          what a sack of crap that is
22:22 chilts         :)
22:22 rangi          oh yeah and oracle
22:22 chilts         hmmm ... and for doing Oracle too!
22:22 rangi          and basic human decency
22:22 Agent_Dani     I can't say I'm a fan either. A part of my motivation for leaving that job was that I was basically becoming the dump-on person for Oracle DBA tasks that the DBAs didn't want to do.
22:22 rangi          and openoffice
22:22 rangi          and mysql
22:22 rangi          and solaris
22:21 libsysguy      **for what they did to JAVA
22:21 * libsysguy    hates Oracle
22:21 libsysguy      there is nothing ever eazy from Oracle
22:21 Agent_Dani     libsysguy: Heh! The "ez" claim worried me at first, but compared to dealing with a lot of the stuff from HP, Oracle, etc...
22:19 libsysguy      nothing new
22:19 libsysguy      sweet
22:19 rangi          easy peasy
22:19 jcamins        UT Tyler doesn't use analytics, so you can just hide it.
22:18 rangi          well that analytics one, could be that there isnt a link .. but the rest is all display
22:18 libsysguy      i just wanted to verify that is all it was
22:18 libsysguy      cool...css and js ftw
22:17 rangi          its all template changes
22:17 rangi          yep
22:17 libsysguy      is that it?
22:17 rangi          ah they just want a bunch of display changes
22:16 libsysguy      this is what the serials librarian sent me
22:16 libsysguy      hey jcamins...do you think you could take a peed at this for me http://i.imgur.com/T3uC3.png
22:15 libsysguy      touche` jcamins
22:13 jcamins        libsysguy: so does fez, and have you ever seen anyone pull off one of those with panache?
22:09 libsysguy      well heck...its got ez right in the name
22:09 jcamins        Go figure.
22:09 Agent_Dani     jcamins: It was fairly trouble-free in my experience, far more so than a lot of other software I was dealing with in that job.
22:05 rangi          who cant approve of using darth vaders voice for your incar navigation
22:05 jenkins_koha   Starting build 355 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:05 * libsysguy    approves
22:05 libsysguy      rangi you have a true programmers taste in music
22:03 rangi          http://soundcloud.com/oopartmusic/chad-vader
22:03 rangi          libsysguy: ive got a new one for ya
22:00 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=32b8ff74fdbcec7ae3dcaff852f48ba5b5bc2bb7> / 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b46a30c632893ca0fd1ef75e19905e8f1cf34a5e> / Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing... <http://
21:57 jcamins        "Fondly"?
21:56 * Agent_Dani   fondly remembers ezproxy.
21:54 libsysguy      yes i did...kind of...turns out our university doesn't use shib as an SSO...silly i know
21:54 rhcl_away      yea, shibboleth related, late last week
21:54 libsysguy      was it perhaps getting ezproxy to work with shib
21:53 * libsysguy    tries to remember ezproxy questions
21:53 rhcl_away      libsysguy, did you resolve your exproxy questions?
21:51 libsysguy      its cool jcamins...ill stalk sekjal
21:51 jcamins        I don't know anything about it, sorry.
21:49 libsysguy      well i just wanted to see if anybody else was getting an error
21:46 jcamins        libsysguy: a bunch of people are. sekjal would be able to tell you about it.
21:42 libsysguy      is anybody using ldap auth on master?
21:30 libsysguy      gotcha
21:30 jcamins        That's what your acquisitions librarian wants.
21:30 wahanui1       thanks cait1 :)
21:30 cait1          wahanui1 botsnack cookie
21:30 libsysguy      ohh
21:29 wahanui1       somebody said MFHD was MARC Format for Holdings Data
21:29 libsysguy      MFHD?
21:29 jcamins        libsysguy: as far as I know, MFHD has not been sponsored by anyone.
21:29 * libsysguy    is about to enter a discussion I don't know much about
21:29 libsysguy      im just going off an email I got from our acquisitions librarian
21:29 cait1          holdings?
21:29 cait1          and don't look so sad...
21:28 libsysguy      holdings?
21:28 cait1          what are you missing?
21:28 cait1          we already have serials?
21:28 libsysguy      so no serials work :'(
21:28 jcamins        Aww.
21:27 rangi          i dont think i wrote anything about that
21:27 cait1          serials in 3.6?
21:27 rangi          blog.bigballofwax.co.nz
21:26 libsysguy      I thought i saw something on there the other day about serials in 3.6
21:25 libsysguy      rangi: what is the link to your blog
21:00 cait1          hehe
20:51 rhcl_away      It works.
20:51 rhcl_away      finally gave up and installed Linux Mint 11.
20:51 rhcl_away      We hired a new bookstore manager two days ago, and the Friends bought her a nice new 17" notebook computer w/ Win 7. I worked and worked trying to get the D&# thing connected to the wireless network....
20:42 * cait1        hides
20:42 cait1          can I get xp now?
20:42 cait1          k
20:41 rangi          cool that gives me ideas thanks
20:39 cait1          test plans?
20:39 cait1          ideas for new innovative features?
20:38 rangi          oh thats a good idea
20:38 cait1          usability testing?
20:38 wahanui1       documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
20:38 cait1          documentation?
20:38 rangi          http://katedavis.info/  <-- her students
20:38 cait1          hm
20:38 rhcl_away      oh, disregard
20:37 rangi          lis
20:37 rhcl_away      abstract the db
20:37 jcamins        What are they studying?
20:36 rangi          i have a bunch of post graduate level students in australia, what things could they help out with in koha
20:36 wahanui1       so is, like, there an expirationdate and an expiredate
20:36 cait1          so?
20:36 rangi          so
20:33 rhcl_away      we're surrounded by a power outage, although we still have el-. http://www.kcpl.com/kcmaps/frameset_menus.htm  Should I close down all the computers, do you think? And go home?
20:32 rhcl_away      yea, probably scared the fish away rather than caught them
20:31 cait1          that thing looks mean
20:30 rhcl_away      http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/3527936580_437b19a40f.jpg
20:20 rangi          :)
20:20 rangi          to give an advertisement or commercial boost for something without having to pay for it. :  I want to get on that TV program and plug my new book.
20:20 rangi          tv.
20:20 rangi          a free advertisement or a commercial boost from someone for a product. (See also plugola.) :  I managed to get a plug on the Mike Michael show.
20:20 rangi          n.
20:19 rangi          to plug something can be used to mean, to advertise
20:19 rangi          hmm that doesnt have the meaning thats used here
20:19 * jcamins      gives up.
20:18 rhcl_away      a fishing lure
20:18 rhcl_away      it's a thing to catch fish with
20:18 jcamins        Everybody ought to have a plug...
20:18 rangi          http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/plug
20:18 jcamins        A plug!
20:18 jcamins        A plug!
20:18 jcamins        A plug?
20:17 cait1          a plug?
20:16 rangi          http://openra.res0l.net/
20:16 rangi          a plug for one of the projects one of the catalyst staff works on
20:15 rangi          and before i forget
20:15 rangi          back
20:09 rangi          my stop bbiab
20:08 druthb         back in a few....
20:08 NateC          rangi: yep, RFP = Really Fu@%ed Paper
20:08 druthb         lol
20:08 wahanui1       I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
20:08 cait1          rangi?
20:08 wahanui1       I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL
20:08 rangi          bg?
20:07 cait1          (mib)
20:07 cait1          flashy-thinged
20:07 druthb         mercy
20:06 wahanui1       you are supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications
20:06 jcamins        jcamins?
20:06 druthb         geblitzdingst?
20:05 rangi          RFP : you're doing it wrong! !!!
20:05 cait1          poor wahanui... he got geblitzdingst
20:04 cait1          hm
20:04 druthb         muhahaha
20:04 cait1          druthb?
20:04 NateC          rangi: I feel you pain man
20:04 wahanui1       I CRUNCH DATA
20:04 druthb         talljoy?
20:04 * cait1        sends rangi cookies
20:03 wahanui1       I LIKE SPACE!
20:03 bg             NateC?
20:03 * rangi        is doing rfp again today :(
20:03 rangi          ahhh
20:02 cait1          took half a day to get here - 6hours on train
20:02 cait1          w
20:02 cait1          it's tomorro
20:00 rangi          how did the presentation go?
20:00 cait1          I have t send more patches, I want a chocolate fish
19:59 cait1          sure
19:58 jcamins        Wait, I did?
19:58 jcamins        Yay!
19:58 jcamins        Aww. Darn.
19:58 cait1          but you helped me
19:58 cait1          I fear not
19:58 jcamins        Can I get xp for scaring someone off of IRC? :\
19:58 cait1          what I would like to see is aphabetic registers and a way to find a title searching for one form of the name that was written under a pseudonym/other name form
19:57 * libsysguy    has to run
19:57 cait1          hm yes
19:56 jcamins        I think ByWater is working on adding authority searching in the OPAC. "Did you mean 'Smith, John, 1900-1981'?"
19:55 jcamins        There would also need to be a display customization, but indexing that doesn't make one weep is a good first step.
19:55 jcamins        Yes.
19:55 cait1          would dom help that problem?
19:54 jcamins        cait1: I agree.
19:54 cait1          would be great if we could get that working
19:54 cait1          and you are right about the access point
19:54 * libsysguy    feels like there is about to be librarian talk about to happen
19:54 cait1          right
19:53 jcamins        cait1: but that only helps if the authority numbers are embedded in the bib records.
19:53 jcamins        At least for right now.
19:53 cait1          you could migrate an old authorities number from your current system
19:53 libsysguy      ill pass that along
19:53 cait1          hm
19:53 libsysguy      gotcha
19:53 jcamins        So the authorities can be used to ensure that a heading has already been authorized when cataloging, but they will not really provide a usable access point into the catalog.
19:53 libsysguy      (and i have no idea what authorities are...i just know it costs a lot of money to get them done)
19:52 libsysguy      from what i understand
19:52 libsysguy      well...i think our authorities are all out of date anyway
19:52 cait1          hi rangi
19:52 libsysguy      how ironic
19:52 jcamins        libsysguy: basically, the point where you're going to run into problems is that your authorities are not going to be linked in any way to your bib records, and the link_authorities_to_biblios script doesn't work.
19:52 cait1          haha
19:52 cait1          You level up! You are now a Level 3 Enchanter!
19:51 libsysguy      haha jcamins hi rangi
19:51 druthb         hi rangi
19:51 jcamins        ;)
19:51 jcamins        libsysguy: I do it for everyone, not just you.
19:51 rangi          morning
19:51 libsysguy      umm sure
19:50 libsysguy      just like the man lol
19:50 * libsysguy    wonders why jcamins is always bringing him down
19:50 jcamins        Do you want Jared's Standard Disclaimer Regarding LCSH-style Authorities in Koha (TM)?
19:50 * jcamins      thinks about warning libsysguy about the fact that the authorities may not do what he's expecting, and then stops before he disheartens the poor fellow.
19:49 cait1          xp!
19:49 druthb         libsysguy++  #smart enough to ask questions!
19:49 libsysguy      cait1++
19:49 druthb         cait++
19:49 cait1          check the ---h for bulkmarcimport :)
19:49 * libsysguy    is retarded
19:49 libsysguy      ohh
19:48 cait1          libsysguy: same way you import biblios (from commandline) using -a
19:48 druthb         it is.  When the Amish and Mennonite people settled here, they felt that God had given them the Perfect Place for their work and lifestyle--and I'm inclined to agree with them on that.  It's great land here.
19:48 libsysguy      i didn't even look
19:48 libsysguy      or is there a wiki on it
19:48 libsysguy      does anybody know how to import authorities
19:47 jcamins        It's an absolutely beautiful area.
19:46 libsysguy      well that makes more sense than a bearded man
19:46 libsysguy      OHHHH!!!
19:46 druthb         In the Amish country
19:46 druthb         libsysguy: my daughter and I are camping near Bird-In-Hand, PA.
19:44 druthb         adjacent to the campground is a farm...all day yesterday, we watched a very serious-looking bearded man working--he had some ancient gasoline-powered implement on a wagon-like contraption, being pulled by two horses.
19:43 libsysguy      cait1 and I are curious campers lol
19:43 cait1          was going to ask that too
19:43 libsysguy      bird in hand?
19:43 druthb         love it.
19:42 jcamins        Still enjoying Bird-in-Hand?
19:42 jcamins        Hi, druthb!
19:42 druthb         hi, jcamins!
19:34 jcamins        Ah.
19:34 cait1          but I don't trust the internet connection
19:34 jcamins        :)
19:34 cait1          I hope
19:34 jcamins_away   cait1: around?
19:31 libsysguy      did i mess something up
19:30 libsysguy      so I deleted a branch that had all my bibs/patrons attached to it after i moved them to a new branch and now when i do a search i just get a * fror libraries that links to the deleted branch
19:17 rhcl_away      OK, well, if you do, give me a heads up.
19:16 huginn`        rhcl_away: I have not seen snowman.
19:16 rhcl_away      @seen snowman
18:30 cait           but lots of things to think about
18:29 cait           programmig it would be an alternatie
18:29 cait           hm
18:28 * oleonard     has found wishing for it to be ineffective for several years now
18:27 * cait         nods
18:27 oleonard       Yeah, that's what I want.  A patron advanced search interface.
18:27 cait           not sure what you want it to do exactly - ideal would be a possibility to filter/search an all fields  :)
18:25 oleonard       Not ideal.
18:25 cait           oleonard: I think you could do it nicely with a custom report and runtime parameter now
18:24 cait           what I miss is sending an empty search to get all borrowers
18:24 bg             it's all good
18:24 oleonard       We wrote a custom PHP script for that because we wished we had it
18:24 cait           bg - i don't know it
18:23 bg             I can't search via email right now - and I only tried on a 3.4 box
18:23 bg             3.4 I guess
18:23 oleonard       bg: Before what?
18:23 bg             never mind got the answer - I think it was stripped
18:19 bg             hey cait - Quick question - were librarians able to search for patrons via email address before?
18:14 cait           and a bit shorter in the pull down
18:13 oleonard       That's nicely concise
18:12 cait           needs feedback perhaps?
18:11 cait           would not be as hard as failed qa
18:10 cait           hm
18:08 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6124 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , In transferstoreceive.pl some biblios are empty.
18:08 oleonard       For instance, Bug 6124 has a good question in the comments, but no response.
18:08 oleonard       I wonder if we need another patch status for "seeking information."
17:55 huginn`        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5166] Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5166>
17:43 cait           hi #koha
17:20 tcohen         r u away already?
17:19 tcohen         paul_p
16:30 piware         Goodbye
16:23 paul_p         OK, it's time to leave for me ! busy but useful day. Now ... going to the beach (lucky man I am, I know ;-) )
16:21 paul_p         I may have seen this sheet already. Something in my brain says that. But it was a long time ago...
16:19 paul_p         quite old too...
16:19 paul_p         Liste des templates d’évaluations disponibles
16:19 paul_p         Listes de évaluations disponibles
16:19 paul_p         http://www.qsos.org/?page_id=4 => 23 October 2006
16:19 gmcharlt       http://www.qsos.org/?p=137 is why I'm asking, although obviously that particularly evaluation is a bit ... old
16:18 paul_p         gmcharlt, I never heard of qsos before now. Although, i've heard rumors of websites like this one (maybe this one) at a conference last year. So it've in the radar of some ppl, but not widely spread yet afaik
16:17 * jwagner      gets out the butterfly net
16:16 oleonard       An elusive gmcharlt appears.
16:16 gmcharlt       paul_p: out of curiosity, is the type of evaluation that qsos.org of any relevance in France (asking because they see to be primarily a French site, albeit with lots of English translations)
15:46 tcohen         i don't know how is that handled
15:46 tcohen         and against the topic branch
15:46 tcohen         the problem with that bug is that there are patches against master
15:46 paul_p         sometimes a follow-up is better, sometimes, it becomes a nightmare to check and squashing is better
15:45 tcohen         i'll squash them
15:45 oleonard       squashing++
15:45 paul_p         (but pls: also explain on the bug how to apply all patches, or squash them (git rebase -i if you don't know how to squash)
15:45 tcohen         paul_p: exactly!
15:44 paul_p         tcohen, you can use this atomicupdate for your patch if you want too ! could avoid having conflicts later.
15:43 paul_p         (this option is rarely used, that's why I specify it for chris/ian, to avoid a mistake)
15:42 tcohen         oleonard++
15:42 oleonard       paul_p: I'm not complaining about the process, I just wasn't aware of this option. We need better documentation of our process, but no one has offered a better suggestion for changing the procedure.
15:41 libsysguy      ^^
15:40 paul_p         I agree we should have a more formal/documented/unique way to submit DB update though !
15:39 paul_p         (as it detects it should be after 017, and see something's wrong)
15:39 paul_p         it's handy to avoid git am conflicts because your updatedatabase was done after 017 and when it's tested, we are already at 024. In this case, even a XXX will result in a conflict
15:38 paul_p         atomicupdate is anotherway to update the database, you just link the atomic update to the updatedatabase.pl at final merge.
15:37 oleonard       Maybe I just don't understand how atomicupdate is used? I thought one must change updatedatabase.pl but put in XX for the version number.
15:37 paul_p         this is a limit of the version numbering we have (and it's a pain, definetly, but I don't have another proposition at hand... probably something to investigate for 4.0...)
15:36 paul_p         For some other patches, i've added a small commit to propose a version number, but it will be chris that decide/pick the right number
15:36 paul_p         oleonard, usually, chris take care of this when applying the patch to master, because the final number depends on the order of applying patches.
15:35 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements
15:35 oleonard       paul_p: Shouldn't Bug 5436 not pass QA until the updatedatabase change is made?
15:32 cait           ok
15:31 tcohen         cait: yes
15:30 cait           what I really wanted to type was: Is the meeting over?
15:29 cait           ks
15:28 slef           pabloab: better luck next time
15:26 pabloab        :/ late, but I was present..
15:24 huginn`        Log:            http://librarypolice.com/koha-meetings/2011/koha.2011-08-03-15.12.log.html
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15:24 tcohen         #endmeeting
15:23 tcohen         #info meeting postponed
15:23 tcohen         #info interested parties could not attend
15:22 slef           http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Semi-automatic-minutes-for-IRC-meetings-on-koha-td3264811.html
15:22 slef           or #info followed by your reason, then endmeeting
15:21 slef           try #info ABORTED then #endmeeting
15:21 tcohen         is there a hastag for abort meeting?
15:20 tcohen         3 es poco me parece
15:19 slef           tcohen: si, quanto?
15:19 tcohen         on moving the koha-es list to the koha-community.org domain and maintenance
15:19 tcohen         to make a desition
15:18 tcohen         I think we don't hace enough attendees
15:18 tcohen         slef: it's latin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorum
15:17 paul_p         oleonard, if you have a few minuts, pls look at 5436, there's a comment/checking I'd like you to do. Thanks
15:17 slef           quorum = ?
15:16 tcohen         No tenemos quorum me parece
15:16 slef           te hiero con malespañol
15:15 tcohen         #topic Spanish speaking community mail list administration / move to official FQDN
15:15 jati           #info Juan Romay (Xercode)
15:15 tcohen         bueno, me parece que somos pocos, no se que conviene que hagamos
15:14 slef           #info MJ Ray, software.coop, Somerset, England
15:14 tcohen         alguien mas por ahi? hilongo?
15:13 miguel         #info Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode, España
15:13 tcohen         #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, UNC, Cordoba, Argentina
15:12 huginn`        Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
15:12 huginn`        Meeting started Wed Aug  3 15:12:20 2011 UTC.  The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:12 tcohen         #startmeeting Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting
15:12 miguel         no hay nadie
15:11 slef           too literal
15:10 slef           that's wrong translation of no-one :-/
15:10 slef           miguel: No-uno es aquí
15:09 miguel         Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode - España
15:01 huginn`        New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6640] Template errors in defining default variable values causes information not to be displayed <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6640>
14:53 paul_p         your welcome
14:52 oleonard       paul_p: Thanks for the kohastructure.sql correction
14:39 magnuse        oleonard: rda springs to mind... ;-)
14:37 oleonard       http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-08-02
14:24 tcohen         but as this patches need to be rebased for sure, and thus need to be signedoff again maybe i'll rebase  against master...
14:24 paul_p         s/comment on the patch/comment on the bug/
14:24 paul_p         mmm... tcohen maybe it's worth a comment on the patch, I missed that !
14:24 tcohen         and that branch should be rebased to master
14:23 cait           ...
14:23 tcohen         paul_p: ok, remember that latest patches apply to new/enh/bug_5166
14:23 cait           I should be happy that I have a connection
14:23 cait           I know
14:23 paul_p         cait = do you remember that less than 10 years ago having internet "everywhere" was even not a dream !
14:23 cait           :)
14:23 cait           hi paul_p
14:22 cait           internet_connection_on_trains--
14:22 paul_p         hi cait
14:22 * cait         waves
14:22 paul_p         tcohen, if you prefer, I suggest you wait a little bit to rebase = there are many patches waiting QA that will have an updatedatabase. So you may have to do it more than once !
14:21 tcohen         paul_p: i'll try to steal some time from my bosses to rebase that code
14:21 paul_p         tcohen, ?
14:21 tcohen         paul_p: ufff
14:04 cait           Oak
14:03 Oak            cait
14:01 magnuse        yeah, that would be a good idea
14:00 tcohen         t oavoid confusion
14:00 tcohen         that as of bulkmarcimport everything is as it used to
14:00 tcohen         as items where removed from marcxml/marc we should perhaps make explicit
14:00 magnuse        i use the table for 3.0 as my reference
13:59 magnuse        not any big changes there either
13:59 tcohen         and from 3.2 to 3.4 ?
13:58 magnuse        tcohen: i don't think there were any changes from 3.0 to 3.2
13:58 cait           hi magnuse
13:58 magnuse        guten tag cait
13:57 tcohen         magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
13:57 magnuse        tcohen: what wiki page are you looking at?
13:48 tcohen         importing holdings is the same as of 3.0.x ? The wiki seems incomplete on that (even 3.2 section is to be completed)
13:35 libsysguy      maybe
13:35 libsysguy      i think it was patrons and bills
13:34 libsysguy      but i forgot what it was
13:34 libsysguy      there was some problem we were having with using a map
13:34 druthb         yup..i frequently tell libraries *don't* do a bunch of cleanup and this and that in your current system--let me do it with mappings.
13:33 libsysguy      so i just changed in in koha
13:33 libsysguy      i guess i should rephrase that...i didn't know how and neither did margo
13:32 libsysguy      :-\
13:32 libsysguy      i know...sirsi wouldn't let me just change the branch in there
13:32 druthb         ugh
13:31 libsysguy      i had to delete my master branch and move it to a new one
13:31 libsysguy      i did abuse my data yesterday
13:31 druthb         your poor abused data...
13:30 libsysguy      druthb i saw where you were concerned about my poor data yesterday
13:30 druthb         hi, libsysguy!
13:27 libsysguy      morning #Koha
12:49 magnuse        np
12:49 jwagner        no, but it's interesting. Thanks!
12:48 magnuse        jwagner: this is perhaps not what you are thinking about? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_an_OPAC_screen_keyboard
12:44 jwagner        paul_p, re my earlier question about alternative keyboards, this link got something working in Win XP -- FYI.  http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/using/catalog/inputoptions.html
12:39 tcohen         hi    #koha
12:26 jwagner        !auit
12:07 jwagner        brb
11:58 jwagner        no, hadn't gotten there yet -- thanks magnus.  Thought I remembered something somewhere....
11:58 * magnus_lunch wanders off again
11:57 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing
11:57 wahanui1       I haven't seen 'bug', magnus_lunch
11:57 magnus_lunch   jwagner: seen bug 6536? "The conversion from UNIMARC to MARC21 currently only supports the most important MARC fields and should gradually be extended to cover remaining fields" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Z3950_RFC
11:57 Oak            hello druthb :)
11:57 druthb         hi Oak.
11:56 Oak            hello #koha
11:44 jwagner        OK, will keep looking. Thanks.
11:43 paul_p         not that I know (and french keyboards have diacritics, so I don't know anyone using a tool for that)
11:43 paul_p         (my last MS-windows was windows 98. Really)
11:43 jwagner        Oh well.  Anyone else?
11:42 paul_p         well, jwagner = french keyboards already have diacritict, plus remember, i'm an OpenSource man, so no windows here ;-)
11:41 jwagner        I'm told in Windows 7 there is a popup alternative keyboard for languages, but I don't know about XP
11:41 jwagner        OK, I'll take a look there.  Second is from one of my French Canadian sites -- is there a MS Windows plugin or popup for Windows XP to let you type diacritics?  They're having problems with original cataloging
11:40 paul_p         (but i haven't tested it, so I don't guarantee !)
11:40 paul_p         I think for actual conversion
11:40 jwagner        for display? Or actual conversion?
11:40 paul_p         jwagner, there is a XSLT at loc.gov iirc
11:38 jwagner        Couple of questions for you or anyone else (thought you might know the answers, though).  First, is there a conversion tool to go from UNIMARC to MARC21 records?  I seem to remember there is.
11:38 paul_p         yep (back from lunch just a few minuts ago)
11:37 jwagner        paul_p, online?
11:32 druthb         hi, Agent_Dani! :)
11:27 Agent_Dani     Heya druthb!
11:19 jenkins_koha   srdjan: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be managed separately
11:19 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #354: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/354/
11:16 druthb         o/
10:50 magnuse        ah
10:40 rangi          connected via tor
10:36 * magnuse      looks quizzically at sekjal_mobile
10:35 jenkins_koha   Starting build 354 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
10:34 sekjal_mobile  haha! victory!
10:31 magnuse        woohoo
10:31 rangi          but it is good news
10:31 rangi          yup, i have to reply and help him with one issue he has
10:31 magnuse        that's excellent news!
10:31 magnuse        yay!
10:31 rangi          he has koha running under linux now
10:31 rangi          i got an email from farasat
10:30 rangi          oh nope we are getting there
10:30 magnuse        linux ftw! but it sounded like that might not be too much of an option in e.g. pakistan, strange as that might seem
10:30 magnuse        ah yes, of course
10:29 rangi          id rather they move to linux, but either way, they will need to migrate
10:28 magnuse        let's hope strawberry perl can help them move to 3.x
10:28 * magnuse      too
10:28 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be manag... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33a9aec802f6833bc7d3b6eb1eeb8e6dce2742f8>
10:28 * druthb       shudders
10:27 rangi          plus there are all the windows users
10:25 rangi          i know of a lot in pakistan and the philipines
10:25 rangi          all around the world
10:25 rangi          there are hundred of libraries on 2.2 still paul
10:23 paul_p         hi druthb
10:23 rangi          hi druthb
10:23 rangi          cool, fixed and pushed
10:21 * druthb       waves to rangi and paul_p
10:19 paul_p         no objection, of course !
10:19 paul_p         yikes ! I made that probably when/by adding "Nicole signed off" manually...
10:18 rangi          im going to change it back to srdjan if you have no objections
10:18 rangi          paul_p: you have changed the author on 4415
09:56 kf             and bye #koha
09:56 kf             hi druthb
09:56 druthb         Hi magnuse!
09:53 magnuse        \o
09:42 kf             weather--
09:14 kf             I think for the presentation it will be ok
09:14 magnuse        my production server has tt 2.22
09:14 kf             ok
09:14 magnuse        i think i had a situation where the stripes were missing when i had the apt-get-able version of TT, and then i cpan'ed it and got the stripes back
09:13 kf             lts version
09:13 kf             ubuntu
09:12 magnuse        on ubuntu or debian?
09:12 kf             Template is 2.20
09:12 kf             yes
09:12 magnuse        are you missing the striping on search results?
09:11 kf             hm
09:11 kf             butI would think so
09:11 kf             not sure
09:11 magnuse        kf: do you have an uptodate version of TT?
09:11 kf             the zebra striping in a lot of tables seems to be broken in 3.4.3
09:10 kf             hm
09:04 magnuse        good idea! ;-)
09:04 kf             playing with the test installation now, making sure all examples work :)
09:03 kf             I have an hour before I have to leave
09:03 kf             thx magnuse
09:02 magnuse        have a safe journey, kf!
08:59 kf             haube makes me think of something a woman in medievil times would wear
08:58 mtj            ahh, haube is like a bonnet
08:56 kf             or a jacket
08:56 kf             but haube is not wrong, only not quite right for a jumper
08:56 kf             Kapuze :)
08:55 mtj            hood = Haube?
08:54 kf             ah
08:54 mtj            1 jumper with hood + 1 jacket with hood
08:53 kf             2 hoods?
08:53 mtj            kf:  wear 2 hoods for heavy rain :)
08:52 kf             hm, no bad karma
08:52 huginn`        kf: Karma for "kf" has been increased 67 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 67.
08:52 kf             @karma kf
08:52 kf             have to go to - to the train station and we have rain, thunder and lightning outside :(
08:51 abdullatef     Bye for now
08:50 magnuse        rangi++
08:49 abdullatef     i really appreciate your help
08:49 mtj            right, go get that xp, rangi
08:49 abdullatef     thanks
08:49 rangi          http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/
08:49 rangi          yes
08:49 abdullatef     are the chat being saved anywhere?
08:48 abdullatef     me too, i need to go
08:48 abdullatef     ok thanks
08:47 rangi          and then ill have to go
08:47 rangi          right, try looking in the db now, in the zebraqueue table
08:47 abdullatef     yes
08:46 pastebot       "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "*/5 * * * *" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1750
08:46 * mtj          looks for some gold to mine....
08:45 rangi          and put a newline at the end
08:44 rangi          did you change to */5
08:44 rangi          abdullatef: ok then, so thats fine
08:44 rangi          heh
08:44 mtj            hey... rangi is just being helpful for the ChoreWorz XP ! :/
08:44 pastebot       "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1749
08:42 rangi          ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl
08:41 rangi          type
08:40 pastebot       "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "ls" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1748
08:39 abdullatef     i'll paste the ls
08:38 abdullatef     where is this usr located?
08:36 abdullatef     ok
08:36 rangi          do a ls on that
08:36 rangi          assuming /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl  exists
08:36 abdullatef     is it same $KOHAPATH with $KOHA_CRON_PATH ?
08:35 rangi          your one you pasted before is fine, except for the 1, and no newline at the end of the file
08:34 rangi          yep, you would have to put that in the koha users crontab
08:34 pastebot       "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "crontab.example" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1747
08:33 rangi          i dont think you need to look at the crontab.example your file in cron.d looked fine except for the 1 and no newline at the end
08:33 abdullatef     In the file a found:
08:21 abdullatef     i have open the  crontab.example
08:20 wahanui1       i already had it that way, abdullatef.
08:20 abdullatef     rangi: make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra
08:18 abdullatef     return = enter :)
08:18 rangi          (at least one)
08:17 abdullatef     oh,  i'm sorry :)
08:17 rangi          put some newlines at the end of the file
08:15 abdullatef     hit return means?
08:15 abdullatef     :)
08:13 rangi          and make sure the file contains a new line at the end, hit return a few times, it cant hurt :)
08:13 abdullatef     to */5 * * * *
08:13 abdullatef     i'll change the 1****
08:12 abdullatef     still no results found
08:10 rangi          so maybe your search is now working
08:09 rangi          its now 20:08 nztime .. so in theory it should have run 7 mins ago
08:08 rangi          the way you have it set up, yes, it will only reindex once an hour, at 1 min past the hour
08:08 rangi          try a search now actually
08:08 abdullatef     meaning that, the search can be run after 1 hour?
08:07 rangi          so it runs every 5 minutes
08:07 rangi          i would make that */5 * * * *
08:06 rangi          at 1 minute past the hour
08:06 rangi          thats only gonna run once an hour
08:06 rangi          1 * * * *
08:05 rangi          i see whats wrong
08:04 rangi          oh
08:04 rangi          and look in hte db
08:04 rangi          and if you still cant find anything, then do like mtj suggested
08:04 rangi          and then it should be all good
08:04 rangi          right try adding a newline at the end
08:01 pastebot       "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "# sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1746
08:00 rangi          and should end with one blank line
08:00 rangi          try pasting it into paste.koha-community.org
08:00 rangi          it should be multiple lines
08:00 rangi          that paste was all one line
08:00 abdullatef     not sure, i'll check the crontab.example
07:59 rangi          but formatted properly?
07:59 abdullatef     # Environment variables used by Koha scripts KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml KOHAPATH=/usr/share/koha PERL5LIB=$KOHAPATH/lib  # The cronjobs 1 * * * *	koha	$KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null
07:59 abdullatef     and i got a file with :
07:58 abdullatef     i just run # sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha
07:58 abdullatef     i see
07:57 rangi          which is koha (according to your paste above) :)
07:57 rangi          make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra
07:56 rangi          that will give you a hint how to do it
07:56 mtj            abdullatef: yes, rangi is right :)
07:56 rangi          for a file crontab.example
07:56 rangi          look in misc/cronjobs/
07:56 abdullatef     the cron job first
07:55 abdullatef     i'll try that
07:54 mtj            $ select * from zebraqueue where done = 0;
07:54 rangi          if you havent, it wont be set up :)
07:54 rangi          have you set up the cron job?
07:54 mtj            abdullatef: look in yr 'zebraqueue' table
07:53 abdullatef     how to check that?
07:53 rangi          because without that, zebra wont update its indexes
07:52 rangi          you have the cron job set up
07:52 abdullatef     no result
07:52 abdullatef     i have imported a record and try to search
07:42 abdullatef     ok let see
07:41 magnuse        add a record and search for it
07:41 magnuse        the best thing is probably to check that it actually works, though ;-)
07:40 magnuse        yeah, that looks promising
07:39 abdullatef     is my zebra running?
07:38 abdullatef     i got this 1120 ?    	S  	0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha.koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml  1121 ?    	S  	0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv -
07:38 abdullatef     when i run #ps ax|grep zebra
07:37 abdullatef     is it really running or not
07:37 abdullatef     i want to confirm about the zebra
07:30 magnuse        so what's your problem, abdullatef?
07:28 abdullatef     now I believed it is solve
07:28 abdullatef     previously I have problem with the zebra
07:27 abdullatef     ubuntu 11
07:27 abdullatef     I have install the koha 3.4 on ubuntu
07:27 abdullatef     can you help me?
07:25 abdullatef     Hi there
07:02 kmkale         hi magnus
06:50 magnuse        bonjour alex_a
06:50 alex_a         kia ora magnuse
06:46 magnuse        namaste kmkale
06:42 magnuse        kia ora #koha
06:36 cait           bye
06:25 alex_a         hi cait
06:24 cait           hi alex_a
06:24 alex_away      hello !
04:50 eythian        ah right :)
04:50 cait           comment again :)
04:50 eythian        what'd I do?
04:49 cait           eythian++
04:45 cait           hi kmkale
04:45 kmkale         hi cait
04:34 cait           morning #koha
04:14 new            tq libsysguy
04:14 libsysguy      I'll talk to you guys later...good luck new
04:14 new            tq so much
04:14 new            ok tq guys
04:13 libsysguy      its late here
04:13 * libsysguy    has to go to sleep
04:13 new            lol :D
04:13 libsysguy      jk new
04:13 * rangi        has to get back to work
04:13 libsysguy      and magic
04:13 rangi          yes, by lots of reading
04:13 new            is there any way that i could learn this zebra ?
04:13 new            ok
04:12 rangi          and without that, search will never work right
04:12 rangi          because from that error, it certainly doesnt look like it is
04:12 libsysguy      ^^
04:11 rangi          id, talk to your vendor new, and say, is zebra indexing working
04:11 libsysguy      i think i'd like to continue blaming it...it seems to be easier that way lol
04:11 rangi          ppl blame it, but its always actually us
04:11 rangi          well its not zebra
04:11 libsysguy      silly zebra
04:11 libsysguy      ahh
04:11 rangi          "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" is a zebra error
04:10 rangi          so the biblio/biblios thing is a red herring
04:10 libsysguy      how did wahanui1 read my mind
04:10 new            then what should i do to fix it?
04:10 libsysguy      yes i was rangi
04:10 new            oo i c
04:10 rangi          not mysql
04:10 wahanui1       libsysguy is probably curious why it is looking for the biblios table
04:10 rangi          libsysguy
04:10 rangi          thats a zebra error
04:09 new            yeah
04:09 libsysguy      before you upgraded you dumped your database right?
04:09 libsysguy      you should see a table called biblio
04:09 libsysguy      if you log into mysql and do: show tables;
04:09 new            i really not good at it
04:08 libsysguy      yes
04:08 new            ?
04:08 new            is it in the mysql
04:08 libsysguy      the table name is biblio
04:08 libsysguy      i am curious why it is looking for the biblios table
04:08 new            it seems like i want to start from scratch
04:07 new            the reason is i want to relearn about koha 3.2
04:07 libsysguy      lol
04:07 libsysguy      ok that is what i was getting at
04:07 new            fyi i'm not using the older database
04:07 libsysguy      did you dump your database then drop it before you upgraded?
04:06 new            yeah from 2.2.9 to 3.2.0
04:06 libsysguy      did you say you upgraded?
04:06 libsysguy      ok well that is probably the root of your issue
04:06 new            i really want to try 3.4 but my bos already ask the vendor to have 3.2
04:05 new            it appears error "Could not select database biblios errCode=109"
04:04 libsysguy      btw rangi is right you should probably try using 3.4
04:03 libsysguy      ok
04:03 new            ok i'll try
04:03 libsysguy      this will reset and rebuild your entire zebra index
04:02 libsysguy      try this: perl /path/to/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -reset
04:02 new            would you show me how plz?
04:02 new            but the there were few fatal process, warn and etc
04:02 libsysguy      well until that record is indexed it won't show up in the opac
04:01 new            in fact i just want to try to add in only one new records
04:01 new            lest than 3 seconds
04:01 libsysguy      so it would take 10 minutes for your item to show up
04:01 new            hold on i check
04:01 libsysguy      think*
04:01 libsysguy      default is 10 mins i thing
04:00 libsysguy      what is your rebuild rate set at?
04:00 new            yeah
04:00 libsysguy      did you set up your cron to do that?
04:00 libsysguy      its probably not rebuilding zebra
04:00 libsysguy      new
04:00 new            but when i finished inputting it, when i search using opac it appears not results found
03:59 libsysguy      is it true that you can only send 3 notices per overdue?
03:59 new            yes i did read that page
03:59 libsysguy      I have a question about notices
03:57 rangi          http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c8245#addbibrec
03:57 rangi          ill find the page
03:57 rangi          it does
03:55 new            but i did not found any if i want to input one record at a time
03:55 new            i did read the manual but it tells about importing records in bulk
03:54 rangi          thats all i can tell you to do, the same as the manual says
03:54 rangi          it tells you how to add a record
03:53 new            yup
03:53 rangi          have you read the manual?
03:53 new            would you help me?
03:53 rangi          and you have zebra running? and your cron job set up to build the indexes?
03:53 new            i do not know how
03:53 rangi          you have to add the record into the catalogue, you did that?
03:53 rangi          the reserviour is not the catalogue
03:53 rangi          but what you are describing is not a bug
03:52 rangi          well there has been 10 bug fix releases since 3.2.0 .. and then 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.6 3.4.3 so its a about 9 months and lots of bug fixes behind current
03:52 new            is 3.2.10 does no have this problem anymore?
03:51 new            my library just migrated the old v2 koha into 3.2
03:51 rangi          3.4.3 is the latest release .. 3.2.10 was the last release of the 3.2.x line
03:51 rangi          3.2.0 ? why did you choose that? its quite old
03:51 new            but i canno search the record inputted
03:50 new            i import data using Z39.50 and the data inputted into reservoir
03:50 new            and it all went well
03:50 new            i've completed the installation
03:49 new            i wouldlike to ask regarding koha 3.02.00
03:49 new            hello all
03:31 mtj            heya kmkale
03:25 kmkale         Namaskar #koha
03:03 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5737 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , ZOOM connection problem in merge_authority.pl when trying to do a batch merge.
03:03 jenkins_koha   frederick.capovilla: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in AuthoritiesMarc.pm so it won't destroy the connection to the biblioserver.
03:03 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #353: FIXED in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/353/
03:03 jenkins_koha   Yippie, build fixed!
02:47 jcamins        Argh! "Lugduni" is both Leiden and Lyons.
02:24 libsysguy      sweet it works...rangi...you the man
02:22 rangi          np
02:22 libsysguy      rangi++
02:22 libsysguy      thanks rangi
02:22 libsysguy      sweet
02:22 rangi          then you fix that, and try the next patch ;)
02:22 rangi          cool
02:22 libsysguy      ohh i see the content conflict now
02:20 rangi          -3 says try a 3 way merge
02:20 rangi          whatever the filename actually is
02:20 libsysguy      ok
02:20 rangi          the git am -iu3  /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-location-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch
02:20 rangi          do a git am --abort
02:20 libsysguy      yes i see that
02:20 jenkins_koha   Starting build 353 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #351 1 j 1 h ago)
02:20 rangi          Patch left in /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-location-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch
02:20 rangi          you will notice it says something like
02:20 rangi          if htat fails
02:20 libsysguy      ok
02:20 rangi          yeah ok
02:19 libsysguy      git bz apply 5079
02:19 rangi          ?
02:19 rangi          git am -iu3 patchname
02:19 rangi          how were you trying to apply it?
02:19 rangi          CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
02:19 rangi          first patch applies, gives me a conflict
02:17 libsysguy      ok thanks
02:17 rangi          will give it a try
02:17 libsysguy      :'(
02:17 libsysguy      first then second...sekjal told me the wrong way to do it instead of just amending it
02:16 libsysguy      both actaully
02:16 rangi          first one, or second patch on that bug?
02:16 libsysguy      thanks rangi
02:16 rangi          2 secs ill look
02:15 libsysguy      yes
02:15 rangi          is it attached to the bug?
02:15 rangi          usually that happens when you formatted it against a commit that doesnt exist in the branch you are trying to apply it to
02:15 libsysguy      so...is there anything i can do or am i totally done for?
02:15 libsysguy      my patch is busted
02:15 libsysguy      :'(
02:15 rangi          yeah, thats not a conflict, the patch is busted
02:15 libsysguy      and some trailing whitespace warnings
02:14 libsysguy      error: installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl: patch does not apply
02:14 libsysguy      error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl:4354
02:14 rangi          whats the exact message you get when you apply it?
02:14 rangi          oh, so its not a conflict then, just hte patch is not applying?
02:14 libsysguy      and there is no <<<<<< section in the update file
02:13 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in AuthoritiesMarc.pm so it won't destroy... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=94700d65c09fc920f30d2bd9763737065635e68a>
02:12 libsysguy      it doesn't look like its in conflict...i've got several untracked files
02:12 rangi          <<<<<<<
02:12 rangi          look for a line with
02:11 rangi          then edit the fille
02:11 rangi          check that it has conflict
02:11 rangi          git status
02:11 libsysguy      so its not a content conflict
02:11 libsysguy      ok so...to resolve it...i don't see a .mine or HEAD
02:11 libsysguy      aww man
02:11 jcamins        You have to resolve it every time you rebase.
02:10 libsysguy      *smh*
02:10 jcamins        Yes. You will *always* have a conflict in the updatedatabase.pl script.
02:10 libsysguy      is there something im missing?
02:10 jcamins        Oh, of course.
02:10 jcamins        And you can't resolve it?
02:10 libsysguy      it happens with the updatedatabase.pl script
02:09 libsysguy      i still get a conflict
02:07 libsysguy      i can attempt that...one sec
02:07 jcamins        Create a new branch, and apply the patch from scratch?
02:06 libsysguy      i get a conflict and it fails
02:06 libsysguy      and when i try and apply my submitted patch
02:06 libsysguy      i deleted on accident
02:06 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs
02:06 libsysguy      bug 5079 that i wrote a patch for
02:06 jcamins        libsysguy: I can try.
02:06 libsysguy      hey jcamins can you give me a hand with something
02:05 libsysguy      heh
02:05 wahanui1       libsysguy: huh?
02:05 libsysguy      wahanui1 wahanui1 on the irc...who's the fairest of them all
02:04 wahanui1       jcamins: i haven't a clue
02:04 jcamins        wahanui1: what's with the attitude?
02:04 libsysguy      ^^
02:04 wahanui1       jcamins_away are you actually away?
02:04 libsysguy      hey jcamins_away
02:04 jcamins_away   And NateC.
02:04 jcamins_away   And libsysguy.
02:03 jcamins_away   Hi, abdullatef.
01:50 abdullatef     Hi everybody!
00:18 nengard        :)
00:18 nengard        no prob
00:18 jcamins_away   I knew someone had done it.
00:18 jcamins_away   nengard: thanks.
00:17 nengard        it's not what you want, but it's a report looking for empty subjects
00:17 eythian        or use a reference :)
00:17 eythian        you could use the extractxml thing, and check to see if it IS NULL (or maybe empty string)
00:17 nengard        jcamins_away this might be a help: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Bibs_without_subjects
00:16 jcamins_away   s/\?/ does anyone happen to know how to do that off the top of their head?
00:16 jcamins_away   Whoops. Missed the rest of that sentence.
00:15 jcamins_away   I need a report that will give me a list of all records that *don't* have anything in the 751$a?